Re: [MlMt] Messages in one account duplicated in some views, but not others
On 18 May 2024, at 12:17, Quentin Stafford-Fraser wrote: > Not an answer to your original problem, I know, but if it helps you tidy up > afterwards... > > https://github.com/quentinsf/IMAPdedup I finally got around to trying this out, and it's very cool -- nice work! But I don't think it will help me clean up because the messages aren't actually duplicated on the server. They're only duplicated in certain folders in MailMate, like "All Messages", but not in others, like "Inbox". If I hadn't based most of my smart folders on "All Messages", I might never have noticed. (Well, I probably would have eventually noticed that "All Messages" had more than twice the count of "Inbox". But it would have taken a lot longer.) -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Messages in one account duplicated in some views, but not others
On 17 May 2024, at 3:40, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
> Whenever seeing duplicates behaving like this, it's a good idea to enable the
> “Source Mailbox” column in the message list. It's very likely that the
> messages are not located in the same mailbox -- but somehow the server sees
> it as the same mailbox.
They're in the same mailbox ("INBOX - e...@meyerweb.com"). Also they have the
same UID, though not the same Msg ID. Screenshot fragment I took just now:
https://meyerweb.com/pix/2024/mailmate-dupes-source-uid-msgid.png
What's really frustrating from a reproducibility standpoint is that the
duplication seems to have stopped happening. Older duplicated messages are
still duplicated, but new messages to the same mailbox are not. Is it possible
I somehow accidentally caused the mailbox to duplicate all its messages at some
point without realizing it?
> Is Gmail involved in this issue?
Not for this account. I do have a couple of accounts that are GMail-based, but
they haven't seen the duplication happen.
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Re: [MlMt] Messages in one account duplicated in some views, but not others
On 10 May 2024, at 5:35, Charlie Clark wrote: > I don't have a solution but two suggestions: > > * which version/build are you using? This will be helpful for Benny in case > he needs to try and reproduce the issue. Oh, good point. I'm using Version 1.14 (5937). > * add UUID and MSGID to the columns to see if they give any ideas – there > have been problems in the past with this. Interesting: the UIDs are repeated but the Msg IDs are not. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Messages in one account duplicated in some views, but not others
I'm really stumped by this one. My primary account (the one I'm writing this from) seems to have all its messages duplicated, but not in all views. If I look in "Inbox > e...@meyerweb.com", I can see all the messages once each. But if I look in "All Messages > Unread", they all appear twice. Here's a screenshot showing the two side by side in distortion mode, "Inbox" (no duplicates) on the left and "All Messages" (the one with the duplicates) on the right: https://meyerweb.com//pix/2024/mailmate-dupes.png In all my smart mailboxes that contain messages from this account, I still see the message duplication. Furthermore, anything I do to one of the copies, happens a few seconds later to the other: changes of unread state, flagging, deleting, etc. Anyone have any ideas why this might be happening and how to fix it? -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PGP/GPG signing and encrypting
On 12 Feb 2021, at 17:17, Martin S Taylor wrote: > I keep getting "The signature is valid, but the key is not fully trusted" > even if I send a signed message to myself. > > How do I fully trust a key? I believe I resolved that by opening the GPG Keychain application that GPG Tools installed into the Applications folder, double-clicking on my key pair, and setting the "Ownertrust" on it to "Ultimate". I can send a screenshot if needed. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] PGP/GPG signing and encrypting
On 11 Feb 2021, at 17:45, Charlie Garrison wrote: > I haven't used `brew`'s `gpg` so can't comment on that. You may find it > easier to get started with Mac GPGTools > > - https://gpgtools.org That was... unexpectedly straightforward and simple. Thanks, Charlie! -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] PGP/GPG signing and encrypting
Hey gang, For reasons, I decided to add OpenPGP-based signing and encrypting to MailMate. Except, I know next to nothing about how to make that actually work. I think I successfully installed gnupg with Homebrew, since the error messages I got in MailMate changed from "can't find gpg" to other stuff, but I'm still getting error messages when I try to encrypt-- and I still haven't worked out how one signs a new message without fully encrypting it. I generated a public-private key pair using https://pgptools.com/ and I _think_ I imported their .ASC files into gpg, but again, I'm not clear if I did it properly. All of this being a long-winded way of asking: does anyone have a gentle total-n00b's intro to getting this working? Command line is fine with me, if that's the best path. Also not wedded to the public/private key paid I generated online, since I've not shared the public key with anyone, so I'm happy to generate a new pair locally if that's recommended. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Merge Tags in Mailmate
On 6 Jul 2020, at 2:34, Martin Dege wrote: Thanks for this; works like a charm for reply emails. At least im my experience, it does not work for emails I compose. But it is a great start! Thanks again! I found that it doesn't work for composed emails until you ⌘S the message. Then it works just like to does for replies. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Fastmail and Runbox: trying to choose
On 13 Apr 2017, at 12:04, Eric A. Meyer wrote: Hello all… Many thanks for the great responses! Richard, Scott, Pedro-- I owe each of you at least one fine beverage of your choice, if ever we should meet in person. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailbox jump-up on click
On 17 Nov 2016, at 9:15, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: In the latest test release I've fixed various issues related to this and I'm no longer seeing any of the described problems myself. Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane to try it out yourself. Installed and tried, and I'm also not seeing the jump any longer, either with new mail or distortion-mode changes. Thanks, Benny! -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Mailbox jump-up on click
Hello all, I've been having a strange problem with MailMate mailboxes. When I try to click on the mailbox pane, sometimes the mailbox pane scrolls upward about a message; other times not. This is hard to clearly explain, so I created some videos showing it not happening, and then happening. <http://meyerweb.com/vid/2016/mailmate-stable.mov> -- this is now things should act, I believe. <http://meyerweb.com/vid/2016/mailmate-jump.mov> -- note how the scrollbar moves when the mailbox pane is clicked; I am _not_ clicking and dragging there, and can trigger the behavior with either an external mouse (what i used in the video) or the touchpad. The problem isn't 100% reproducible for me, but I was able to trigger it pretty consistently by turning Distortion Mode off and then back on. Even without any Distortion Mode changes, it seems to happen whenever new messages have arrived in the mailbox, but I'm not sure that it happens every time. And once I've seen the jump-up and then scrolled back down to the bottom, it doesn't seem to happen again until a new message comes in. (If that is in fact the trigger.) Anyone else seeing something similar? Better still, know why it might be happening and how to prevent it? This is in El Capitan, if that helps at all. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 1.9.5 (5263) and counters
On 15 Sep 2016, at 15:18, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 15 Sep 2016, at 19:03, Eric A. Meyer wrote: Is there a hidden preference or something that would let me define my own colors, or rotate these new colors, or go back to the old colors? The Counters preferences pane lacks a way to change the color, but it *is* possible. MailMate saves the settings here: defaults read com.freron.MailMate MmCounters Almost! `defaults read com.freron.MailMate MmCounters2`. I believe you can edit the output of the above and then replace it using defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmCounters '...' I wasn't 100% confident about the correct format for feeding the data back in, so I grabbed <http://apps.tempel.org/PrefsEditor/> and used that instead. Thanks for the leads, Benny! -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] 1.9.5 (5263) and counters
I just got the 1.9.5 update, and the change list is impressive! One thing that snagged me, though: some of the new default counter colors make it really hard to read the numbers within-- specifically, the mustard yellow and light-ish green counters, which I'm using because I prefer my most-commonly-seen counters at the bottom of the dock icon instead of the top. Is there a hidden preference or something that would let me define my own colors, or rotate these new colors, or go back to the old colors? I'm not averse to digging through package contents, if there's a file in there somewhere that controls the colors, writing config files, or what have you. If not, I can file a feature request over at Lighthouse, but I figured I'd check here first. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Matching on attachment names
On 16 Aug 2016, at 8:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 15 Aug 2016, at 18:21, Sherif Soliman wrote: - Attachment-name contains meeting note But setting the `Filename` condition did. e.g., Filename > contains > jpg. Yes, this should work. I think it's available both in the 2.0 beta and the public 1.9.4 release, but there's a caveat. Only the 2.0 beta handles it properly for recently arrived emails due to an issue which affects any kind of condition involving MIME sub-parts. Let me know if it still doesn't work as expected and we'll debug the issue. Finally got around to trying this, and indeed it did work (on a file that was about a week old) in 1.9.4 (5234). Thanks, Gary (and Benny)! -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Rules and HTML parts
Hey all, Is there a good introductory tutorial to creating and using rules? I have some idea of how they work, but it'd be nice to learn from someone with experience. That said, is there a way to have a rule set the display part that should be preferred for a given message? I “Prefer plain text” in my preferences because it works better for me in 98% of cases, but there are a few addresses that always send mangled (or utterly useless) plain-text parts, so I always have to flip to the HTML part to make any sense of what they're sending. I'd love to have a rule Just Do That™ for me before I even open the messages. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Connection log files on the Desktop
On 12 Oct 2015, at 15:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 12 Oct 2015, at 21:29, Eric A. Meyer wrote: Recently, I've started seeing Mailmate connection log files dropped onto my Desktop, apparently one per mailbox that had a connection problem. [...] Any suggestions as to why they're on my desktop, and how to relocate them? [...] It's a bug in the public release. At some point I was playing with an idea of automatically generating a log file when certain types of issues were encountered (typically server bugs). I accidentally left this code enabled and I didn't notice because my own server is apparently too stable to trigger these log files. (Ironically, the content of these log files isn't useful in most cases.) Got it. I'll upgrade my copy now. Thanks! -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Connection log files on the Desktop
Hello, Recently, I've started seeing Mailmate connection log files dropped onto my Desktop, apparently one per mailbox that had a connection problem. Here's one: Connection log (2015-10-11 19:58:41 +): 19:58:33 Trying to disconnect nicely (8)... 19:58:33 C: E11 LOGOUT 19:58:41 Error: Time limit (8s) reached while trying to read data (imap.gmail.com) 19:58:41 S: 19:58:41 Clearing connection to imap.gmail.com Any suggestions as to why they're on my desktop, and how to relocate them? I'm using 10.8.5. (Apologies if this has been addressed already, but my search of the list archives and Lighthouse didn't turn up anything that seemed to fit, so I thought I'd check here first. I'm happy to file a bug if one is called for.) -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Any way to prevent auto-correcting two spaces after a period to one?
On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:16, Gary Hull wrote: On 8 Jun 2015, at 2:44, Ben Klebe wrote: The autocorrect is system-wide in Cocoa text fields. To change it, go to System Preferences - Keyboard - Text and uncheck “Correct spelling automatically.” Strangely though I can’t replicate this behavior and furthermore why would you want two spaces after a period? Please don't open that can of worms on the mailing list!: …he said, and then wrenched the can open further. http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html Although I agree: two spaces after a period should have died with manual monospace typewriters. You and Manjoo are wrong: the wider post-sentence spacing was not a quirky, transient artifact of typewriters or monospace fonts, but has literal centuries of precedent and tradition behind it: http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324 -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] MailMate seems crashy of late
I'm posting this here because I don't have enough for an actual bug report, but MailMate has seemed rather crash-prone for the past month or so, through several versions. I'm currently running Version 1.7.2 (4199) on OS X 10.8.5 (12F45). I get a couple of crashes a day, feels like, at least on days I get to do any email at all. For a while I thought it was to do with my marking messages read/unread while in Smart Folders, but I've come to realize that crashes happen even when not doing that. (At least, I don't think so. I do that kind of thing al the time.) It never crashes in the background-- only when I'm interacting with MM. So I'm posting here to see if anyone else is having similar experiences. Hopefully my crash reports are making it in (I have Phone Home enabled), but if others are having similar experiences, we might be able to figure out the common threads. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Replying to multiple messages
One thing I miss from my Eudora days is the ability to select a bunch of messages, hit Reply (or Reply All), and have a new individual reply window opened for each message. So if I did this with ten messages, ten reply windows would be opened. Is there any way to get that reply behavior in MailMate? -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Thread Arcs styling options
I was curious about the styling options available for Thread Arcs, as I’ve been thinking about ways to enhance the Arcs so they indicate things like which messages are flagged, unread, have attachments, etc., etc. Is CSS applicable there? -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Dock counter size
On 1 Oct 2013, at 11:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDockCounterFontSize -float 48.0 The default is 24.0 which means the counters are going to overlap with the setting above if you use more than 1 counter (or maybe 2 if they are in opposite corners). I finally got around to testing this with the new 1.7 install, and I love love LOVE it. I experimented and settled, at least for now, on a value of 35.0. Thank you! Of course, now I want all my other dock-counter applications to allow the same thing. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Dock counter size
Is there a way (hidden preference or otherwise) to change the size of the dock counters? I find mine a little too small to be glance-ably useful, but I don't want to make the Dock bigger just to scale up the counters. If there isn't a way, I'm happy to file an enhancement request. -- Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] myOpenId and accounts
Hey, Is there a way on Lighthouse to convert an account from using OpenID to using email/password? myOpenID is down again, and I'm getting tired of it blocking me from signing in. -- Eric A. Meyer (e...@meyerweb.com) http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New problem with Gmail
At 15:28 +0200 6/4/13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: One user claims the problem has disappeared. This is not the case for me (at least not an hour ago). Here's a second user saying it's disappeared. I've sent some messages this morning, and none of them have gotten stuck in Drafts. All have appeared in Sent Mail. I didn't update; currently running Version 1.5.4 (3384). -- Eric A. Meyer (e...@meyerweb.com) http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] New problem with Gmail
At 20:59 +0200 6/4/13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 4 Jun 2013, at 17:32, Eric A. Meyer wrote: At 15:28 +0200 6/4/13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: One user claims the problem has disappeared. This is not the case for me (at least not an hour ago). Here's a second user saying it's disappeared. I've sent some messages this morning, and none of them have gotten stuck in Drafts. All have appeared in Sent Mail. I didn't update; currently running Version 1.5.4 (3384). It seems it varies a lot for users. I'll say: it just started happening to me again, affecting messages sent within a couple of minutes of each other. I've sent another message since then, and it wasn't affected; ditto for a message sent six minutes before the first of the two that are stuck. GMail! -- Eric A. Meyer (e...@meyerweb.com) http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Future plans?
At 17:45 +0200 5/27/13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Some users claim to use MailMate with 500K messages, but I think that requires pretty powerful hardware. I think 50-100K messages should work pretty well. As a point of data, I have a GMail account with 61K messages and a private-server account with 49K, and performance is quite acceptable. Though startup is slow, I think a lot of that is GMail's fault. Once I'm past startup, everything is snappy enough, including deep archive searches and display of messages in very long threads (I never turn off thread arcs). I run a 2011 MBP with 8GB RAM and a 2.4GHz Core Duo. In my mind, the major missing features in MailMate are: Rules (which can be added to any mailbox with actions like move message, tag, run script, etc.) Commands (essentially scripts executed at certain events including keyboard shortcuts) I'm a little confused as to the difference. How are Rules and Commands distinct from each other? If I wanted, say, to automatically filter all incoming mail from the Mailmate Users list to a dedicated subfolder, would I use a Rule or a Command? -- Eric A. Meyer (e...@meyerweb.com) http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] layout bug
At 10:18 -0400 4/30/13, Eric A. Meyer wrote: At 21:34 +0200 4/29/13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 29 Apr 2013, at 17:11, Eric A. Meyer wrote: While you're at it, I'll throw in a vague report that the message pane doesn't always seem to know where the top of the message is located. Sometimes the message pane will load with the first few lines scrolled off the top of the pane. Note that MailMate remembers the scrolling position for messages you have viewed previously. Could this explain it or do you also see it for messages you have not viewed before? I've just discovered it's not that. I have a Smart Mailbox called Unread Mailbox which shows me all the unread messages in my two inboxes. As I arrow up and down from one to another, sometimes I'll hit a longer message and it will be scrolled down a few lines in the preview pane. If I scroll it up, it will usually be properly placed when I come back to it, but then another will be scrolled down-- one that was properly scrolled (all the way to the top) the last time I went past it. I saw this just a few minutes ago. The problem is, I can't find a pattern, and thus no way of reliably reproducing the effect. It seems to just happen occasionally. If it does happen again, what should I capture to pass along? Followup: I managed to create a reproducible situation. Here's how: I have a message that appears in both Unread Inbox and Flagged (because, at the moment, it's both). I noticed that I had been in Flagged just before seeing the message scrolled down about a line in Unread Inbox. So I went back to Flagged and viewed the message there, and it was scrolled down a bit more. Back to Unread Inbox, and the message was scrolled down yet more. Not exactly a line each time, but close. As I went back and forth between mailboxes and viewed the message, each initial viewing would scroll the message down a bit more-- but JUST on the initial view upon entering a mailbox. Any further viewings before leaving the mailbox would leave the new scroll state unchanged. I'm also able to induce this in other messages in Unread Inbox that are not flagged by going to my actual Inbox (that shows all read and unread message) and then going back to Unread Inbox and viewing longer messages. It doesn't happen to all of them, but some of them. I can shoot a screencast if the description above is unclear or confusing. -- Eric A. Meyer (e...@meyerweb.com) http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Smart mailbox excluding other smart mailboxes
At 15:11 -0400 4/12/13, Bill Cole wrote: Show Messages in All of the following mailboxes Noneof the following mailboxes Uptime Monitor Contact Mail Inbox And uncheck the Under the following conditions checkbox. Ahhh, very nice. Thank you! -- Eric A. Meyer (e...@meyerweb.com) http://meyerweb.com/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Horizontal thread arcs view
At 13:31 -0800 3/5/13, Steve Mayer wrote:
Try the attached .plist file.
Perfection! Thank you, good sir.
...okay, I did make one change, because I always must tinker. I
changed the tooltip text as follows:
toolTipFormatting = {
formatString = ${from.name:${from.address}} * ${#date.relative};
};
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[MlMt] Change Standard Search Field of Custom Search
At 10:07 + 3/1/13, David Levy wrote: On 1 Mar 2013, at 5:53, Mateusz Parzonka wrote: Note that one can setup multiple search conditions (such as from, to, common, ?) since any conditions with empty text fields are ignored when searching. Kind of a hack, but it can be useful if you have more than one favorite kind of search. Thanks Benny, this is incredibly powerful. Once configured with 3-4 conditions, I think this should be enough for most queries one can come up with. And then you just fly through your incremental search by tabbing through the fields. Killer feature, really. I agree. I knew about the menu item but not about the empty fields aspect. This is an (unintended perhaps) very powerful feature. Certainly this aspect should go in the occult FAQ. I'm going to chime in with my jaw-dropped applause. An incredibly great feature. Speaking of the occult FAQ, is there a wiki that we users could use to start building that FAQ? That would take most of the onus off Benny, and eventually whatever gets compiled could be captured as a static FAQ for inclusion in MailMate's help files. If there isn't one, I might be able to set one up. I dimly recall setting up a MediaWiki install once upon a time... -- Eric A. Meyer (eric at meyerweb.com) http://meyerweb.com/
