Re: [mailop] Any contact to Google to debug 'aspmx' troubles?

2019-05-28 Thread Benoit Panizzon via mailop
Hi Grant

> Why are messages, presumably from a human, outbound from RT/4 setting 
> the Precedence: header to bulk?

I suppose to silence auto-responders to prevent them to play email
ping-pong. I know the good old 'vacation' tool does not reply on
presence of the bulk header. And also RT/4 itself does not send the
'ticket created' confirmation email if a bulk header is present.

> I can see Auto-Submitted: Auto-Generated: , but not Precedence: bulk.
> 
> Do your outgoing messages have a references header?  Does it reference 
> the incoming message's Message-ID?

Yes, it references the Ticket ID:

References: 
(and other previous emails in the case)

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Re: [mailop] Any contact to Google to debug 'aspmx' troubles?

2019-05-27 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
We don't drop mail, nor do we give gsuite the ability to drop mail, though
the final recipient can set up a filter to trash messages (but they'll be
in the trash label)

Unless they're a legacy free gsuite domain, they should have access to the
email logs in the domain admin pages, and be able to search for any
messages to see what happened to them.

https://support.google.com/a/topic/2618873?hl=en_topic=2683886

We can also track messages, but we can't track them for the sender for
inbound messages for privacy reasons, only for the receiver.

Brandon

On Mon, May 27, 2019, 3:11 AM Benoit Panizzon via mailop 
wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'm looking for a contact to Google (or anyone with insight on what
> could cause the problem) to solve a specific issue we have with a
> company using their ASP services.
>
> Observed Problem:
>
> I send them an email from the email client 'claws-mail'. This is
> received perfectly.
>
> But we use RT/4 as issue tracking system. If I reply to a case we have
> open with them. They do not get my reply, despite our logs showing a
> successful delivery to aspmx.l.google.com and no late bounces being
> received. We did try different recipients in their domain, it's the
> same for all of them. It looks a bit like as if google is silently
> dropping everything with:
>
> Precedence: bulk
> or
> X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.12 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/)
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
>
> -Benoît Panizzon-
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> I m p r o W a r e   A G-Leiter Commerce Kunden
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>
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> CH-4133 PrattelnFax  +41 61 826 93 01
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Re: [mailop] Any contact to Google to debug 'aspmx' troubles?

2019-05-27 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop

On 5/27/19 4:10 AM, Benoit Panizzon via mailop wrote:

Hi all


Hi,

But we use RT/4 as issue tracking system. If I reply to a case we have 
open with them. They do not get my reply, despite our logs showing a 
successful delivery to aspmx.l.google.com and no late bounces being 
received. We did try different recipients in their domain, it's the 
same for all of them. It looks a bit like as if google is silently 
dropping everything with:


Precedence: bulk
or
X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.12 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/)


Why are messages, presumably from a human, outbound from RT/4 setting 
the Precedence: header to bulk?


I can see Auto-Submitted: Auto-Generated: , but not Precedence: bulk.

Do your outgoing messages have a references header?  Does it reference 
the incoming message's Message-ID?




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Re: [mailop] Any contact to Google to debug 'aspmx' troubles?

2019-05-27 Thread Ken O'Driscoll via mailop
Hi Benoît,




There's no blanket issue with RT and Google, we use it and so does one of our 
clients without issue.




Does it work when you reply from the web interface?




Ken.







From: Benoit Panizzon via mailop


Sent: Monday 27 May, 11:10


Subject: [mailop] Any contact to Google to debug 'aspmx' troubles?


To: mailop@mailop.org






Hi all I'm looking for a contact to Google (or anyone with insight on what 
could cause the problem) to solve a specific issue we have with a company using 
their ASP services. Observed Problem: I send them an email from the email 
client 'claws-mail'. This is received perfectly. But we use RT/4 as issue 
tracking system. If I reply to a case we have open with them. They do not get 
my reply, despite our logs showing a successful delivery to aspmx.l.google.com 
and no late bounces being received. We did try different recipients in their 
domain, it's the same for all of them. It looks a bit like as if google is 
silently dropping everything with: Precedence: bulk or X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.12 
(http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) Mit freundlichen Grüssen -Benoît Panizzon- 
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[mailop] Any contact to Google to debug 'aspmx' troubles?

2019-05-27 Thread Benoit Panizzon via mailop
Hi all

I'm looking for a contact to Google (or anyone with insight on what
could cause the problem) to solve a specific issue we have with a
company using their ASP services.

Observed Problem:

I send them an email from the email client 'claws-mail'. This is
received perfectly.

But we use RT/4 as issue tracking system. If I reply to a case we have
open with them. They do not get my reply, despite our logs showing a
successful delivery to aspmx.l.google.com and no late bounces being
received. We did try different recipients in their domain, it's the
same for all of them. It looks a bit like as if google is silently
dropping everything with:

Precedence: bulk
or
X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.12 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/)

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

-Benoît Panizzon-
-- 
I m p r o W a r e   A G-Leiter Commerce Kunden
__

Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel  +41 61 826 93 00
CH-4133 PrattelnFax  +41 61 826 93 01
Schweiz Web  http://www.imp.ch
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