Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Mastodon for native-language projects

2019-04-03 Thread Fabián Rodríguez

Le 19-04-03 à 10 h 35, Mike Saunders a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> Maybe this is something for the localisation list, but let's try
> discussing it here first :-) As some of you may have seen, we've set up
> a Mastodon account on the Fosstodon server for LibreOffice:
>
> https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice

Hello Mike,

This is very good news, I also noticed it's linked among the other
social media on the main website at https://www.libreoffice.org.

> We could do the same for other languages, like we have the LibreOfficeFR
> and LibreOfficeDE Twitter accounts for instance. However! Fosstodon only
> allows accounts and messages ("toots") in English.

I wasn't aware of the language restriction :(

Mastodon works a bit differently and the expectation is not to have role
accounts but rather individuals, and organizations self-hosting their
instance. The web interface also allows to filter content by language,
see: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wFTikYtDXCJWLsH

@libreoff...@fosstodon.org may be the exception for the main
organization for
now.https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/wFTikYtDXCJWLsH

I think encouraging current TDF members, LO members and
developers/contributors having their own accounts and posting to them
under #libreoffice would be the best approach.

As an end-user I don't want to follow a single language-specific
resource risking to miss other posts.

> If anyone is interested in setting up an account for another language,
> let's discuss options here -- there are lots of Mastodon "instances"
> (servers) out there, although I haven't looked at many of them yet! As
> an example, this instance seems to be popular for many languages,
> including German:
>
> https://social.tchncs.de/about

Is it feasible for TDF to host their own and provide accounts for
contributors on their own name and encourage its marketing/social media
contributors to post from there? Similar to how the Ubuntu project
provides @ubuntu.com email to contributors. Perhaps a commercial
provider like masto.host <https://masto.host/> could help in the short term.

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] YouTube channel: community posts unlocked

2018-11-20 Thread Fabián Rodríguez

Le 18-11-20 à 05 h 31, Mike Saunders a écrit :
> Hi Fabian,
>
> On 19/11/2018 17:59, Fabián Rodríguez wrote:
>> I would like to see more content on non-GAFAM platforms, relying too
>> much or exclusively on YouTube comes with important restrictions and the
>> risk of having such content removed or unavailable.
>>
>> It also encourages joining such platforms which is not possible and
>> often incoherent with values associated to using LibreOffice in the
>> first place.
> For the benefit of others in the list, GAFAM = Google, Apple, Facebook,
> Amazon, Microsoft (I'd never heard of that before!).

Thank you. This project explains clearly why it's important to stop
relying on them and what alternatives there may be:

https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/

> Yes, we have to be available on fully free platforms, and I've asked the
> infra community to look into PeerTube as an alternative to YouTube. At
> the same time, if we want to spread the word, we have to go where the
> people are.
>
> I'm no big fan of Facebook, but it's an extremely effective way to reach
> new users who weren't aware that LibreOffice exists, and encourage
> existing users to tell new people.

Yes, PeerTube would be interesting to add to share videos. Self-hosting
on day one may not be immediately feasible, other existing instances may
be used initially. Regarding Facebook, I am not sure how you measure
that efficiency but we're past the point of naively believing it only
has benefits, in fact it's the opposite. Look at the right column
"Facebook in the news" at https://deletefacebook.com/ or "Reasons not to
use Facebook <https://stallman.org/facebook.html>".

Right now https://www.libreoffice.org suggests using Twitter, Facebook,
G+ (which is effectively dead), YouTube and Reddit: 100% non-free
platforms where anyone deciding not to use them can't contribute to
spread the word.

diaspora*, Mastodon, discourse and others could be considered as viable
alternatives now, but I think it should be another thread and given
proper discussion space.

> I'll provide an update about PeerTube when I have more info!

Thank you, looking forward to providing any help I can.

Cheers,

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] YouTube channel: community posts unlocked

2018-11-19 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
I would like to see more content on non-GAFAM platforms, relying too
much or exclusively on YouTube comes with important restrictions and the
risk of having such content removed or unavailable.

It also encourages joining such platforms which is not possible and
often incoherent with values associated to using LibreOffice in the
first place.

F.

Le 18-11-19 à 03 h 51, Mike Saunders a écrit :
> Hello, good news everyone!
>
> Our YouTube channel now supports "community posts":
>
> "Creators with access to the Community tab can interact with viewers
> using rich media. Community posts can include polls, GIFs, text, images,
> and on-demand video. Community posts help provide additional reach on
> YouTube and greater engagement with your audience. They always appear on
> the Community tab, and may appear in Home or the Subscriptions feed."
>
> Let's think of some ideas for this! As an example, when we post a "new
> features" video, we could also do some polls -- what's your favourite
> new feature in this release?
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Microsoft MigratIon Guide

2014-01-08 Thread Fabián Rodríguez

Le 2014-01-08 00:47, David Virden a écrit :

Hi, I would like to work on this guide and I was told someone on this list
else was interested, as well. If so, would you like some assistance?


I must have missed this, but if anyone is working on such a guide, it 
would be a good idea to revisit/base it on this one:

http://framabook.org/changer-pour-openoffice-org/

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Donation options.

2013-10-05 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Le 2013-10-04 10:55, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Fabián Rodríguez wrote on 2013-10-03 00:54:
>
>> I noticed after the fact. I've asked them if they have a similar
>> offering for German organizations. If not, it would still be only 1%,
>
> that sounds good (and much cheaper than other solutions ;-) I saw that
> they also offer direct bank payment, which makes me really interested.
> I signed up with them and wait for feedback, so we can see how it
> works - thanks for the hint!
>
> Plus, I saw a rather reputable German NGO using their services, which
> gives them even more credibility for me.
>
> Let's see how that works out (waiting for their feedback now),
> otherwise I'll check other providers.
>
> Florian
>

Good to see you're getting started, glad I could help a bit.

Please let me know (in private) when you have an address so I can donate
to, I'll be glad to be among the first transactions :)

You may not want to make public a single unique Bitcoin address to
receive payments (email me off-list), as it's easy to then trace/follow
transactions. Bitpay does take care of that too, it generates a new
wallet/address for each transaction.

- Fabian


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Donation options.

2013-10-02 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Le 2013-10-02 06:13, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
> Hi Fabian,
> 
> Fabián Rodríguez wrote on 2013-09-30 18:18:
>> BitPay will process payments and let you keep Bitcoin or convert +
>> deposit for free (as a non-profit):
>> https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-for-charities
> 
> thanks a lot for that - it sounds interesting, but with TDF being not a
> 501(c)(3), but rather a German entity tex-exempt under the local law, it
> won't fly.

I noticed after the fact. I've asked them if they have a similar
offering for German organizations. If not, it would still be only 1%,

> However, I really would like to keep BitCoin moving and offer it. Do you
> know of any other service providers, ideally in Germany, that would
> allow us to accept Bitcoins? Do you have any hands-on experience? While
> googling, I found quite a few, but if you have a recommendation, that'd
> be pretty helpful! :-)

Quite a bit. I'd suggest looking up for:
- local Meetup.com groups
- companies/providers listed at http://coinmap.org (based on
OpenStreetMap) ~30 new / week
- thebitcoincatalog.com (their PDF is free to download and they have a
good list)

The list goies on, another place to look for news is
http://reddit.com/r/bitcoin. Careful, it may cause dependency :)

If you're wondering, I recently started a new position as Chief
ambassador for the Bitcoin Embassy in Montreal - http://bitcoinembassy.ca :)

Let me know if you neew more help.

F.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Donation options.

2013-09-30 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Le 2013-09-26 04:26, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
> Fabián Rodríguez wrote on 2013-09-25 20:32:
>> You can use a personal Bitcoin wallet from someone on the project who
>> would then transfer funds to LibreOffice account, or setup something
>> with a reputable service like BitPay.
> 
> using BitCoins is still on our todo. For Germany, it seems the legal
> issues have been cleared, now we just need a reliable and cheap exchange
> provider - working on that, but no ETA as of today.

BitPay will process payments and let you keep Bitcoin or convert +
deposit for free (as a non-profit):
https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-for-charities

I've had only good recommendations about them, I became a merchant a few
weeks ago and I used their service in a restaurant (Vegan Galaxy in
Boston) as a customer 2 days ago for the first time, quite easy.

I asked on /r/Bitcoin for goof measure, that's where I found out it was
free for non-profits/charities:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1n6f34/some_progress_re_libreoffice_accepting_bitcoin/

Let me know if you need help with this or if you have any other questions.

F.

ps. in full disclosure, I am "Chief ambassador" for the Bitcoin Embassy
in Montreal - http://bitcoinembassy.ca ;) I have no stakes in BitPay,
though, just a happy user.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Workshop Proceedings

2013-09-30 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Le 2013-09-30 10:45, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
> Back from Milano where we had an amazing conference, I  am posting
> these notes about the marketing workshop alongside other links:
> http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2013/09/30/marketing-workshop-2013/
> 

Many thanks for this summary.

> 3 immediate items of interest: 
> * I am requesting a file repository where project contributors can post
>   materials (the wiki does not seem to cut it anyhow), and I'm
>   requesting such a file repo (owncloud?) to the infra team (in cc). 
> * we'll (re) start our marketing conference calls, perhaps first on the
>   IRC. I'll send out a Doodle soon.
> * it seems we'll have some new contributors soon so... if you're on the
>   marketing list already, welcome, if not, I have the list that was
>   provided to me on the spot, in the room by the participants. 

I was at the recent GNU 30th anniversary at MIT in Boston, USA,
organized by the FSF. There was a good long panel discussion about
enhancing the messaging arounf free software advocacy, I thought it
would be useful to share the notes here:
http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/MessagingFreeSoftware

Perhaps some of that combined with the work you did during the
conference could inspire some new action items for the marketing team,
I'd like to help with that.

- Fabian





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Donation options.

2013-09-25 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Le 2013-09-25 12:35, Tom Davies a écrit :
> Hi :) We just had a suggestion on the Users Mailing List that
> "bit-coin" might be another good option to add to help more people be
> able to donate more easily.
> 
> I don't know if it's difficult to set-up.  My guess is that if it
> hasn't already been done then it's probably more difficult than it
> sounds and might not be worth doing.  On the other hand it might just
> not have been thought of at the time the donations page was made and
> just be a "dohh" moment so i thought i would forward the idea jic
> 
> Regards from Tom :)
> 

It's quite easy in fact.

You can use a personal Bitcoin wallet from someone on the project who
would then transfer funds to LibreOffice account, or setup something
with a reputable service like BitPay.

If you need help let me know, I happen to have recently joined the
Bitcoin Embassy :) http://www.bitcoinembassy.ca

For those curious about Bitcoin, I dedicated a page on my site to it:
http://www.legoutdulibre.com/en/bitcoin-accepted/

I also like these videos:
https://www.khanacademy.org/search?page_search_query=bitcoin

Cheers,

Fabian

> 
> 
>  From: GM4N ® N  
> To: "us...@global.libreoffice.org"  
> Sent: Sunday, 22 September 2013, 13:29 Subject: [libreoffice-users]
> Donation options.
> 
> 
> Hi, i don't know if this is the correct address for support, but
> anyway: You should add bitcoin as a donation option. for me for
> example .. i live in belgium and we use a different credit-card (no
> visa/mastercard) and i do not own a paypal account. I would donate
> btc if it was an option.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Office Training Mailer

2011-05-09 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
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On 05/09/2011 09:27 AM, dhiren jani wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I got this mailer about training on a competing office suite, and I was 
> wondering if anyone has such an offering for LibreOffice for different parts 
> of the world?
> http://view.email.office.com/?j=fefd17727c6705&m=fe98157075670d7a76&ls=fe5a167477640d747113&l=ff941077&s=fe60167475670c7a7513&jb=ff64157974&ju=fecc1c707462057e&r=0
> 
> Specifically, is there someone who is covering training for LibreOffice in 
> the Indian market?
> [I am aware of the certifications initiative for the European market.]
> 
> Dhiren Jani
> 

Hi Dhiren, thanks for sharing.

Although it includes outdated versions, here is similar training
offerings by the same provider partner:
http://www.brainstorminc.com/for-business/train-by-product/openoffice.org.aspx

I believe many local consultants/professional trainers would take the
challenge, specially seing there's already a lot of material available
and English could be used there.

If you need a hand with this let me know, although I am in Montreal I've
done training in India and would gladly go back if there is an opportunity.

Best of luck and keep sharing your local experiences.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: local/regional cable office uses[ed] OpenOffice.

2011-04-25 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
.  All
> this and more seemed to "help" Oracle to decide to end its development
> and support of the trademarked product line they own called OpenOffice.org.

Bear in mind so far they announced their *intentions*, AFAIK there's no
final word on what's next:
http://emeapressoffice.oracle.com/Press-Releases/Oracle-Announces-Its-Intention-to-Move-OpenOffice-org-to-a-Community-based-Project-1ca9.aspx

> [...]and
> LibreOffice is the best of the open-source office suites could help as
> well.

Again, unless you can back this with verified third-party in-depth
reviews and quotes, I wouldn't word it like that.

> I may be dealing with the local/regional library system in mid May, I
> hope to give out some DVDs there during my meeting for the Transit
> Riders committee, and then the manager for the main branch of our
> library system.  Then I hopefully be able to get in to see the "proper"
> person[s] for the city and county government IT departments, or a higher
> up official.  I will be dropping off some DVDs and whatever documents
> that the Marketing groups come up with that would be good to help them
> understand how great LibreOffice is, and why they should switch to this
> office package.

Books also help legitimize such products. DVDs if well done are a great
resource, and remember *lots* of people still go to libraries. I have
had very good results in giving free workshops (well received as
libraries always want more people, and FLOSS is compatible with their
knowledge-sharing missions). When giving such workshops I simply mention
books and CDs are available for lending at the counter and I encourage
everyone to copy them at will, etc. etc.

Thanks for sharing, I'd have a few more things to share but have to go
for the day - keep sharing your local/personal experiences :)

Cheers,

Fabian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Oracle to cast off OOo

2011-04-16 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 04/15/2011 08:53 PM, Craig Olofson wrote:
> Excuse me if this is old news but;
>
> Even though the cynic in me expected this development, I'm still surprised.
> I look forward to our council's statement.
>
> fyi,
> -Craig
[...]

Pardon my boring reply but I only see an "intention" in the original
press release. This is typical FUD, in my very humble opinion:
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Oracle-Announces-Its-Intention-to-Move-OpenOfficeorg-to-a-Community-Based-Project-NASDAQ-ORCL-1428324.htm

Cheers,

Fabian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] reg: Presentation - Introducing LibreOffice

2011-03-23 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 03/23/2011 10:35 AM, Kinshuk Sunil wrote:
> 2011/3/23 Fabián Rodríguez [...]
> Can you explain how GFDL can be applied on it? I tried going through GFDL,
> but could not fully comprehend it.
>
Here's an example:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fabi%C3%A1nRodr%C3%ADguez?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=20081013-Ubuntu-FabianRodriguez-BarCampDelhi.zip

(sorry for the long URL)

It's an interesting coincidence my example is from a short talk I gave
at BarCamp Delhi in 2008 :)

[..]
> I am not sure about the Java example. Isnt Java released as free software,
> under GPL, as well ?
You're right, a quick serch didn't yield clear information about this.
AFAIK there aren't free binaries for Windows and Mac OS. There is a
MacOS port but only for MacIntel (so, no PPC). This is fairly recent and
I have less interest in such versions so perhaps someone with closer
knowledge to such builds can elaborate on this.

> [...] Ah, and one last bit, in the interest of "dogfooding", please do not
>> publish your presentation on SlideShare only. [...]
> I was not wholly aware of these issues. My work requires me to publish such
> presentations on Slideshare. I have now uploaded the presentation on the
> marketing wiki -
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Introducing_LibreOffice.odp and
> simultaneously updated the Slideshare one too.
>
> How do I mention it in the presentation?
You could mention this in two places:
- at the beginning when you show a slide with license information,
simply indicate "this presnetation, BTW, has been done with LibreOffice
and is licensed under %. You can download it from the Marketing Team
page at libreoffice.org - I'll elaborate later on this"
- when you reach the point where you mention the marketing team, "...as
other teams, the Marketing team has a section/page/wiki dedicated to it
[...] where you will find among other things our logos, fonts, and
presentations (including this one) which community and enterprise
contributors use in LibO advocacy"...

The above is only a very rough example, of course anyone should adapt to
their local context. It's also what has worked for me, it often starts
completely different discussions after a presentation.

[...]
> The updated version "2.0" is now on the marketing wiki on the links
> mentioned above.

Wow, that's fantastic! Once again, thank you for your hard work and
sharing :)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] reg: Presentation - Introducing LibreOffice

2011-03-23 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 03/23/2011 10:52 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> On 3/23/11 3:35 PM, Kinshuk Sunil wrote:
>
>> Do we have any licensing guideline for Marketing materials?
>
> No. I use Creative Commons CC-BY-SA because is known outside the
> software world (although in a very limited way). I do not use the GFDL
> because a presentation does not belong to the documentation category.

Surely we agree this is instructional material, the presentation is its
supporting material. that's why I sometimes use GFDL for presentations.

>
> FSF states that: "The GFDL was designed for manuals, textbooks, other
> reference and instructional materials, and documentation which often
> accompanies GNU software".
> [...]

> Slideshare is very popular, and presentations published on SlideShare
> are usually picked up by search engines and are easier to find by
> people outside the software industry.
>

As I wrote, when you publish there **only**, problems outweigh the
benefits. Once again, we should not publish ONLY to SaaS sites that have
restrictive, changing terms of use & conditions. "It's popular" is about
the least valid argument for putting content **only** in such sites. My
***personal*** preference is to not publish on such sites at all.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] reg: Presentation - Introducing LibreOffice

2011-03-23 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 03/23/2011 05:13 AM, Kinshuk Sunil wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am participating at a regional unconference, here in India, this weekend
> and making a presentation about LibreOffice at the event. I tried looking
> around for a suitable marketing material but could not find one.
>
> So, I made a "Introducing LibreOffice" presentation from my researches over
> the web. The presentation can be seen at:
> http://www.slideshare.net/osscube/introducing-libreoffice
>
> I will appreciate if someone can take out time to go through it and check if
> I am not saying anything wrongly/incorrectly. If this is not the correct
> place for this discussion, kindly guide me to the correct platform.
>
Hello Kinshuk, thanks for sharing your work. A few comments:

- It'd be nice if the presentation had clear licensing information on
each slide, with a slide dedicated to it at its beginning and another at
the end. I'd suggest GFDL but other exist. I don't specially like
CC-BY-SA unless you explain it and don't use NC (my opinion).
- Make sure while talking about the license you indicate clearly where
this presentation is available (Marketing wiki should be the first place)
- Slide #14 doesn't seem to add much. It also has an important mistake,
Draw is not equivalent to MS Publisher and may raise expectations that
can't be met. Same for Base vs. Access.
- 2 slides of history for an unconference seems a bit much. when I
present and explain this bit I simply state 3 highlights:
-- LIbreOffice original codebase is 10+ years
-- Sun bought it originally, and it's been a commercial product that
inherited restrictions and problems of non-free products + business models
-- When Oracle bought Sun they failed at embracing a truly free open
source business model, which precipitated TDF and LibreOffice fork. I
also mention most free open source software projects health can be
directly measured by the community size/participation,
foundation/organization(s) behind the project, and their governance
structure
- Under "Why LibreOffice", it's a bit repetitive. I expect the history
part would cover that, just as I mentioned above
- I believe a critical problem is that a corporation owns the trademark,
and as such has complete control of the project in many ways, you could
cite Firefox as an example. This is (as I understand it) one particular
reason why OOo can't be considered strictly free. Java dependency
(particularly on Windows + Mac platform) may be a better way to explain
the non-freedom bit - I'll gladly stand corrected
- Cloud office doesn't strike me as related to the decision to lauch TDF
+ LibO

As a general feeling, the red fonts and focus on all the Oracle mentions
seems like justification and bashing, when the door should remain open
for them to contribute and we should focus on the positive aspects of
the project. I am not sure how much longer we should put emphasis on the
problems that lead to LibO, instead of focusing on how much common sense
there is in any FLOSS project having such governance (the current one,
and looking forward).

Ah, and one last bit, in the interest of "dogfooding", please do not
publish your presentation on SlideShare only. They still advertise
"uploaded as OpenOffice", and their terms of use add important
restrictions to any content you upload there. This has improved in the
last 2 years (they use to restrict it for personal use, only use Flash,
etc), but remains problematic, or at the very least inconsistent when
you are presenting about free software. Please consider uploading your
presentation to the Marketing section of the wiki, and you can mention
this in your presentation too.

I hope this is useful, and don't expect everyone to agree to every bit
of it - by all means let us know when/if you update the presentation and
when its next version is available.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Updated on my French-Canadian LibO remix DVD

2011-03-01 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 02/27/2011 09:48 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Hi Fabián,
>
> Le 2011-02-27 07:44, Fabián Rodríguez a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've updated my LibO DVD remix with LibreOffice 3.3.1.
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD
>>
>> [...]
>> So far response has been great - I have distributed about 60 such DVDs
>> and several local, small computer stores will be carrying them starting
>> next week. This is mostly to support workshops and training I give
>> locally.
>> [...]
>
> Thanks for the update and congrats on the popularity of the disc. Are
> you holding many workshops? Feel free to advertise these on our events
> calendar.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marc
>
>

Workshops are at least once a month, plus custom training for customers.
I also carry the disks to any FLOSS event I go to. Most are listed here:
http://agendadulibre.qc.ca

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] international DVD/stick and ISO

2011-03-01 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 03/01/2011 11:55 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello Marc, 
>
> Le Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:20:41 -0500,
> Marc Paré  a écrit :
>
>> This thread was moved from the BrOffice thread.
>>
>> Re: P2P use. Let's not forget that our calls for a server where the
>> ISO could be hosted was to enable more of the DVD team members to
>> work collaboratively on authoring the DVD. It would also be a lot
>> simpler to ftp corrected html or code to the server rather than
>> working through a P2P connection.
>>
>> So, as there seems to be a solid interest on completing the "North 
>> American" DVD (and possibly changing it to an "Americas DVD"), could
>> the TDF offer us server space for work on the project? The
>> LibreOffice-Box team is being hosted by the TDF. Could our project
>> also be hosted by the TDF? We are also basing our project from the
>> LibreOffice-Box project, so the base that we are working with is
>> common to both projects.
>>
>> I believe there are enough of the SC membership here to give us some 
>> kind of direction for this.
> Well, go ahead and open a wiki page :-) It's as easy as that. 
> Perhaps this time it would be nice if it could be designed as an official DVD 
> from TDF (with full standard logos,
> hosting on the TDF servers)? So far, aside the LibreBox, there were a
> lot of individual DVD projects that were meant to remain that way. Now
> is perhaps the right time. As I wrote here several times, we need a
> distribution team. I'd be glad to work with you on this guys.
>
> Best,
> Charles. 

Charles, I think Marc referred to hosting 4GB+ sized ISO files, perhaps
more. That's not possible with the wiki AFAIK and downloads, if popular,
could strain the wiki infrastructure - I'll gladly stand corrected.

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[libreoffice-marketing] Updated on my French-Canadian LibO remix DVD

2011-02-27 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Hello,

I've updated my LibO DVD remix with LibreOffice 3.3.1.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD

The changelog is here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD#Changelog

This is not something competing with the other DVD / box projects. I'll
most probably end up contributing to those as well, as time permits -
meanwhile any of this is of course available for anyone to use in such
projects - if re-licensing is needed just let me know.

So far response has been great - I have distributed about 60 such DVDs
and several local, small computer stores will be carrying them starting
next week. This is mostly to support workshops and training I give locally.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] presentation template

2011-02-02 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 02/02/2011 10:35 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-02-02 16.36:
>> I know I'm supposed to know it, but can someone point me to our TDF
>> template for presentations?
>>
>> we have the FOSDEM this week-end;-)
>
> I just send you the presentation as I delivered it offlist, the
> template is IMHO by Christoph. You need to grab the Vegur font (linked
> in the wiki, somewhere at Marketing/Branding). But beware, IIRC, Linux
> version has major issues with this font.

Whatever issues there are with this font aren't specific to GNU/Linux.
The biggest problem is it's lack of any special characters / unicode
support.

Please also consider making your presentations available under a
sensible free, open licence, while also using free fonts (such as
Liberation) which will minimize any further problems and make it easier
for other language users to re-use the same.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Press Clippings

2011-02-01 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 02/01/2011 10:05 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> I have collected press clippings in English, Italian, French and
> Spanish. I have a search running for English and Italian, so these are
> rather comprehensive, and I have also found some French and Spanish in
> the process.
>
> Clippings are saved into Evernote and shared with the world:
>
> English: http://www.evernote.com/pub/italovignoli/loenglish
> Italian: http://www.evernote.com/pub/italovignoli/loitalian
> French: http://www.evernote.com/pub/italovignoli/lofrench
> Spanish: http://www.evernote.com/pub/italovignoli/lospanish
>
> The pages are updated (almost) daily, and they provide a RSS feed.
>
> Of course, you are free to add them to wiki pages.
>
> Ciao, Italo
>
Thanks for sharing those, Italo! I have added the French ones to the
marketing page for LibO press:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOInTheNews

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated

2011-02-01 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 02/01/2011 10:02 AM, toki wrote:
> On 01/30/2011 02:45 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote:
>
> > I also hope part of this discussion is useful for other DVD
> distributors.
>
> Four points:
>
> a)  Are you going to be making that DVD image publicly available for
> other people to download and burn to physically distribute locally;

I am not sure. I made an ISO file but its interest for others is limited
as it's really customized to my use and has my contact information. It's
also 1.4 GB in size so it's not as easy to distribute. I published all
the steps I took to make it so anyone is free to make the same, which I
think will fit best everyone's specific needs.

> b)  The file tree does not contain files for 64 bit Windows. All of the
> new systems I've seen here, have had 64 bit Windows 7 on them;
I am not aware of a 64-bit specific version of LibO for Windows. I only
used files available at libreoffice.org for the files I chose:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.3.0/win/

>
> c)  The file tree does not contain Linux RPMs. Omitting that is probably
> as bad an omission as leaving out the 64 bit Windows files;

I suppose you didn't read my notes. Under "Research and writing":
" I left out RPMs for now but they will be included shortly. "

How are such omissions bad ? I provide links to get "other languages and
versions" as indicated on the label. I am focusing on my audience,
that's all. For my first run I expected no one to be using an RPM system
and didn't have time to download the appropriate files.

>
> d)  How are handling the "source code must be available" issue?
>
> jonathon

I haven't had any requests yet. I link to libreoffice.org in many
places, and my README includes this mention:

All software included on this DVD is licensed under the LGPLv3 free software 
license.
The latest version of these files can be obtained at:
http://libreoffice.org/download

I suppose I can include a mention about the source code there, thanks
for bringing that up.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated

2011-01-30 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 01/30/2011 10:21 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello Fabian
>
> Well yes it does clear up misunderstandings. In the future we will issue
> logos without "The Document Foundation" written on it for people who wish to
> distribute tailored labels. My offer that you design the official label
> still stands, however.

The logo w/o TDF wording would make my label look like this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/659391/Libo-dvd-2-1.pdf

I'll put more time on this when I can - thanks again for all your comments.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated

2011-01-30 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 01/30/2011 09:12 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Fabian
>
> I'm sorry I am going to look and sound like this is criticism but as you may
> have heard we are working on a trademark policy.
> I am unclear in fact whether you are designing something that can be
> considered an official label for LibreOffice DVD or if it's just "your" own
> label.
>
> - if you want it to be official then I would only suggest ou take away your
> name and just put "The Document Foundation" instead (btw, I don't like the
> font there, but that's just my personal taste). (this option is the easiest
> and it would mean we would have one official label now!)
> - if it's just your label, we are coming up with a logo that does not
> display "the Document Foundation " underneath the LibreOffice mention but if
> you can come up with one, then you're welcome to do so... :-)
>
> Best,
> Charles.
Hi Charles,

Thank you for your comments - don't be sorry! :) As I've mentioned
before this is for a very specific use and I am aware of other
developments regarding the trademark. Unfortunately I printed my labels
and put them on DVDs last night so these will go as-is.

I am not sure how else I can make clear this label (and DVD structure)
is my own other than the fact it's in my wiki space, has clear
attribution and licensing, and I have explained all the process to
create it publically.

I am following trademark developments closely and my label will change
accordingly either when I notice or when I am asked to (I have
subscribed relevant wiki pages too). I am not producing 3000 DVDs right
away! I am also limited by my own capacity to burn, print labels & stick
them on DVDs, manually. BTW I used the original fonts as indicated in
the branding page (which I had to trace back, translate licensing
information from Japanese and update in our own wiki).

Regarding my name, it's there precisely to indicate this is not
distributed by TDF and this production (~50 DVDs) will be
hand-distributed with a clear indication that I produced them myself (if
people don't get to read the whole text on the DVD). Of course I am also
promoting my services and bundling this with a (free) workshop.

I hope this clears up any misunderstandings. I also hope part of this
discussion is useful for other DVD distributors.

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[libreoffice-marketing] DVD material updated

2011-01-30 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Hi everyone,

I've updated my DVD material to what will be distributed in my first run.

In total about 20 hours went into this, FYI (!). I didn't think it would
take this long!

See:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=User:MagicFab/LibODVD

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Re: no labels ready :( Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice DVD test

2011-01-29 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 01/29/2011 10:53 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
> [...]
> A more relevant links would be:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas#CD.2FDVD_Labels
>
>

There you go:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas#By_Fabi.C3.A1n_Rodr.C3.ADguez

It's also linked from my personal wiki page (see my signature below).

:)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice DVD test

2011-01-29 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 01/29/2011 09:15 PM, Mike Houben wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't know why we have a Design-Team which is working on a DVD-Label and 
> you are making your own?! 
>
> Houbsi
>
> P.S.: Is it just me or are the Teams working each on his own Planet without 
> looking what the others are doing?!

Hi Mike,

I am not in the design team and I needed these rather quickly. I am just
sharing what I am doing, now that you mention it I hope someone from the
design team is sitting on both lists (or vice-versa).

I am only making 50 for this run, I'll be distributing them in person in
a workshop I am giving (Introduction to Free Software & GNU/Linux). I'll
gladly adopt/adapt any other label(s) in the making! So far the few
initial DVDs I made had great reception.

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice DVD test

2011-01-28 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Hi everyone,

This is a terrible picture but I thought I'd share my progress with the
DVD I intend to give distribute:
http://picasaweb.google.com/magicfab/Mobile#5567334615198441922

Let mek now what you think. It's a lot of work to properly align these
stickers but worth for some occasions.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 3.3.0.4 Final is out

2011-01-25 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-25 08:55 PM, Dave Johnson wrote:
> http://www.libreofficedvd.info/libreOffice.html
>
> Get your DVD backup of LibreOffice 3.3!
>
> LibreOffice is a productivity suite that is compatible with other major 
> office suites, and available on a variety of platforms. It is free software, 
> and therefore,  free to download, use and distribute.
Hi Dave, nice video (and site!), thanks for sharing !!

I noticed an error dialog popping up at some point - do you think this
could be removed somehow ? May I suggest that you upload the video to
archive.org, you could then embed it using Flash and propose it for
downloading in several formats (including Ogg Theora). You can upload
your m4v file directly, I write a small guide for that:
http://www.wikihow.com/Upload-Videos-to-Archive.Org-and-Make-Them-Available-in-Free%2C-Open-Formats

I also put together a DVD distribution which you may have noticed, let
me know if you think we can work together on making both (yours and
mine) better:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD

I still have to catchup on other threads related to some marketing ideas
and docs, hopefully by the end of the week, meanwhile please report back
on your first impressions with your site.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Document Foundation launches LibreOffice 3.3

2011-01-25 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-25 06:06 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> The Document Foundation launches LibreOffice 3.3
>
> The first stable release of the free office suite is available for
> download

Congratulations on this release! I was caught a bit off-guard as I was
particularly busy and not monitoring every list in the last few days but
I managed to blog about this:
http://www.fabianrodriguez.com/blog/2011/01/25/the-document-foundation-launches-libreoffice-3-3

Are there already localized versions of the announcement ?

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing ConfCall agenda/topics - was Reminder: Marketing ConfCall

2011-01-20 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-20 07:30 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Fabián Rodríguez wrote on 2011-01-20 13.16:
>
>> Thanks for the reminder. Is there an agenda somewhere ? I couldn't find
>> it. I'd love to bring the following subjects up briefly:
>> - Logo status and remaining action items (trademark, licensing, terms of
>> use)
>> - Promotional material (I'd like to propose to use CafePress as an
>> interim was of gathering funds and getting the brand exposed)
>> - LibreOffice in Libraires (based on
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries)
>> - LIbreOffice distributor guideline (I'd like to help here, combined
>> with the above Libraries effort, to get the most LibO media in the hands
>> of advocates and users)
>
> feel free to add them to
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#Agenda -
> however, I think for today's call, we won't be able to discuss about
> more than the 3.3 release, as this will take some time. We can,
> however, talk about the items the next call. :-)

Thank you, Florian, I see branding/artwork is part of the agenda.

For the other items I mentioned I'll just report back on the marketing
lists about what progress I do in those and invite more people to join/help.

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing ConfCall agenda/topics - was Reminder: Marketing ConfCall

2011-01-20 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-20 06:47 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> tonight at 1800 UTC+1 (German time), i.e. in about 5 hours, we have a
> marketing conference call. The agenda will be mainly about the 3.3
> release, I doubt we will have much time for other topics, unless they
> are really urgent. :-) I explicitly do *not* want to talk about the
> Drupal topic in this call, please let's focus on the 3.3 release first.

Hello Florian,

Thanks for the reminder. Is there an agenda somewhere ? I couldn't find
it. I'd love to bring the following subjects up briefly:
- Logo status and remaining action items (trademark, licensing, terms of
use)
- Promotional material (I'd like to propose to use CafePress as an
interim was of gathering funds and getting the brand exposed)
- LibreOffice in Libraires (based on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries)
- LIbreOffice distributor guideline (I'd like to help here, combined
with the above Libraries effort, to get the most LibO media in the hands
of advocates and users)

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] THe hTML5 logo... some ideas

2011-01-19 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Hi there

Today the W3C launched their logo and more... see:
http://www.w3.org/html/logo/

Many ideas there for the LibO brand + promo material.

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [OT] Sparrow email client - was Re: LibO DVD distribution for Quebec (Canada)

2011-01-19 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-19 07:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> What does "Sent with Sparrow" mean?  or more to the point ... Is sparrow 
> another 
> email-client available for linux?  A friend needed some very advanced 
> features 
> such as deep folder-subfolder structure and fairly precises filtering and 
> couldn't get Evolution, Thunderbird or Claws to do things exactly right for 
> him.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)

Hi Tom,

According to email headers it's another email client...

X-Mailer: sparrow 1.0beta7 (build 504)


... a quick search on that string brings this email client for Mac:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/35410/sparrow

What exactly was your friend not able to do with Thunderbird ? Just
curious :)

Cheers,

Fabian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibO DVD distribution for Quebec (Canada)

2011-01-19 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
On 11-01-19 03:11 AM, charles.h.schulz wrote:
> Fabian,
>
>
> Thank you for your input. As these are not official DVDs, please take out 
> "The Document Foundation" from the labels.

Hi Charles,

The logo is licensed under the Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 Unported
License (
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoContemporary_2000px.png
), and the LibO files I include are all identical to the original
downloads. Why should I take out the logo ? That reminds me perhaps I
should indicate attribution for the logo, would that be Christoph Noack
or TDF ?

If we have the same approach to any new contributors producing marketing
material I fear we won't get much traction with such projects. I'll keep
the published files on the wiki unmodified for now.

>
> BTW; I'm very interested in starting a physical distribution team for 
> LibreOffice, something official. Would you like to join?
>
In my limited capacity for this, yes. I've been doing this for quite
some time for the Ubuntu project and did before for OpenOffice.org so I
have a few ideas - but mostly a constant need to distirbute DVDs/USB
keys. One project that didn't take off (mostly because of the free
ship-it CDs I guess) was "Ubuntu in Libraires" - perhaps a more sensible
approach would be to register different LibO distributions and media as
media publications with an ISSN for library donation... I'll start
another thread on that sometime. See this link for details about the
stalled Ubuntu in Libraries:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries

Let me know what you think.

Cheers,

Fabian

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD distribution for Quebec (Canada)

2011-01-18 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Greetings

I've been giving away LibreOffice DVDs for a few weeks now, and since I
needed something with better presentation I've put together a
LibreOffice DVD distribution and label. This is for low-volume
distribution, using a home-grade inkjet printer, which I will be doing
personally but also as part of workshops and courses on free software
here in Montreal.

I described how I put together the DVD here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD

Some details are not finished yet but I welcome any comments and
suggestions. Keep in mind many things there are very specific to my own
usage. While doing this I also learned that the LibreOffice logo font
(Vegur) is Public Domain.

Cheers,

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