World of Gnome Org

[alex diavatis]

Hello,
I originally sent this mail on gnome-press-contact, but I think it was the
wrong place, so I post it also here.



*Hello,
I bought a domain name today under "worldofgnome.org".
I want to advertise and promote GNOME DE through it, and on any case it will
be Free of any license and not commercial in any way.
There are any issues with licenses from GNOME Foundation? Something i'm
not permitted to do?

To be more specific I have some sections
News
Gnome news from gnome.org, Blogs of Gnome Developers, Phoronix Etc
Interviews
Interviews from Gnome Developers, Distro Developers (about Gnome) etc
Personalize it
How to tweak Gnome, with Extensions, Themes, Icons, etc.
Also recommend some of them.
How to use it
Shortcuts and hidden tips, also propose workflow ways to use workspaces
etc...
Your ideas
This is the most important part, it is where users will "speak" their ideas
and features they want to see on Gnome,
alongside with a Mockup or demonstrations. There are very good ideas on
mailing lists.
Gnome Stories
People can sent emails about stories they have related to Gnome, they can be
funny or whatever.. We choose some of them and we publish them..

Blogs
With personal opinions
Some more stuff follows, but this is the main idea
Regards,
Alexis Diavatis*


My query is if I can use the brand name "GNOME" on the page. Page name will
be WoG most probably or can be same as domain name..

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About worldofgnome org

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

We plan to release worldofgnome.org some day this week -Thursday
most probably- and we still haven't any answer from you about if we have the
right to use the Gnome Logo.
Our logo is just a text "WoGue" and we want to add Gnome Icon next to it.

We don't claim any rights on our work, or on our logo and we don't go
commercial in any way.

If we haven't any answer from you by the time we release it, we assume that
we can use Gnome logo as a part of ours (actually next to ours not part of
it),
and we discuss it between us if we should or shouldn't not use it.

Hope hearing from you,
Thank you

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Re: About worldofgnome org

[alex diavatis]

Well I just attach a quick mockup of the logo to show you what I mean,
[image: wog_logo1.png]
- alex


On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:50 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We plan to release worldofgnome.org some day this week -Thursday
> most probably- and we still haven't any answer from you about if we have the
> right to use the Gnome Logo.
> Our logo is just a text "WoGue" and we want to add Gnome Icon next to it.
>
> We don't claim any rights on our work, or on our logo and we don't go
> commercial in any way.
>
> If we haven't any answer from you by the time we release it, we assume that
> we can use Gnome logo as a part of ours (actually next to ours not part of
> it),
> and we discuss it between us if we should or shouldn't not use it.
>
> Hope hearing from you,
> Thank you
>
> - alex
>
>
>
>
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Re: About worldofgnome org

[alex diavatis]

Helo Ramkrishna,

Thank you for the fast response, I have already read these, but I can't
figure out the meaning.
First of all I don't use the original Gnome Logo

This page contains source images for the GNOME logo. These can be used in
> relation to genuine GNOME project activities, including the design of
> merchandising and marketing materials.


 but even if I had used it, what the above means?

We don't mind that much if we can't use it, but it would be nice if we could
:)
I post on this mailing list because I have asked the same question on
Peters, that she is admin on Marketing ML and I'm sure she can answer me
with a yes or no :)

- alex



On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

> More appropriately:
>
> http://foundation.gnome.org/licensing/index.html
> sri
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>
>> I would mail Karen Sandler and/or the foundation mailing list.  Here is a
>> wiki page that describes how you can use the GNOME logo.
>>
>> https://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines
>>
>> sri
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:50 AM, alex diavatis > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We plan to release worldofgnome.org some day this week -Thursday
>>> most probably- and we still haven't any answer from you about if we have the
>>> right to use the Gnome Logo.
>>> Our logo is just a text "WoGue" and we want to add Gnome Icon next to
>>> it.
>>>
>>> We don't claim any rights on our work, or on our logo and we don't go
>>> commercial in any way.
>>>
>>> If we haven't any answer from you by the time we release it, we assume
>>> that we can use Gnome logo as a part of ours (actually next to ours not part
>>> of it),
>>> and we discuss it between us if we should or shouldn't not use it.
>>>
>>> Hope hearing from you,
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> - alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
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Re: About worldofgnome org

[alex diavatis]

Hello Karen,

I didn't know about not allowed to use word Gnome on the domain, seems a
bit weird, sorry about it.
Thank you for considering to allow us to use Gnome Logo

Nope there isn't any reason to release this week,we just felt that we have
to release some time, even in alpha state.
So we can wait for you.

However I guess I have to explain some things about Wogue.

1. We want to think GNOME as operating system
That means our Page Material will exceed the Gnome as core and will go on
Themes, Applications, Extensions etc

2. We like Gnome because is beautiful and productive not only because is
open
Because Gnome is OS (for us), it runs applications. And applications aren't
always open.
So we are going to advertise Apps that aren't open like Steam (if comes
natively on Linux, not just on Wine) and Penumbra.
We want to show people all the good things that Gnome HAS and RUNS

3. Of course we are going to show plenty of pure pure Gnome

I guess you don't quite like the things above (2), but ...

Taking this opportunity to talk to you, I want to say that,

We want to see GNOME as GNOME OS, Fedora Gnome, Ubuntu Gnome ( OK that's
dead) or whatever. It is very sad that this awesome product hasn't
the recognition that deserves.
Seems like paradox to me that everyone he sees it, he likes it, but few
people have it. And of course the answer is that missing the applications,
advertisement and consistency(?).
Fortunately today we don't use Apps so much as we have everything online,
but every good app that runs on Linux has to be advertised, no matter if it
is open or commercial.

On the other hand if you do not like "commercial apps" under Gnome Logo
( understood )  we can run in on a subdomain. In any case we make clear if a
app is open, part of Gnome, or not.

Well, WoGue loves GNOME and wants to promote it on people that don't like
mailing lists, don't write on open source forums, don't care about how it
works.
We want to make an enjoyable page with fancy stuff that focus more on Design
and Art. And Shell is ART :)


Thank you,

- alex


On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Karen Sandler  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Thanks so much for providing more information and for asking us in advance
> of launch in the first place. As you probably know, using the GNOME mark
> as part of a domain name is a violation of our trademark guidelines:
> http://foundation.gnome.org/licensing/guidelines/
>
> However, GNOME's board likes what you are putting together in principle
> and is deciding whether it can grant you special permission. Is there some
> reason you need to launch this week? I will get back to you as soon as I
> have more information.
>
> best,
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Sun, October 23, 2011 2:15 pm, alex diavatis wrote:
> > Well I just attach a quick mockup of the logo to show you what I mean,
> > [image: wog_logo1.png]
> > - alex
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:50 PM, alex diavatis
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> We plan to release worldofgnome.org some day this week -Thursday
> >> most probably- and we still haven't any answer from you about if we have
> >> the
> >> right to use the Gnome Logo.
> >> Our logo is just a text "WoGue" and we want to add Gnome Icon next to
> >> it.
> >>
> >> We don't claim any rights on our work, or on our logo and we don't go
> >> commercial in any way.
> >>
> >> If we haven't any answer from you by the time we release it, we assume
> >> that
> >> we can use Gnome logo as a part of ours (actually next to ours not part
> >> of
> >> it),
> >> and we discuss it between us if we should or shouldn't not use it.
> >>
> >> Hope hearing from you,
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> - alex
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: GNOME Journal and World of GNOME Re: About worldofgnome org

[alex diavatis]

Hello all,

I uploaded an empty early draft (many things have changed, don't freak out!)
to show you what WoGue is about.
You can see it on
http://worldofgnome.org/404/woguedemo/<http://worldofgnome.org/404/woguedemo/index.php>
(hover
mouse on banner to open Menu)

Ramkrishna I think there is not any kind of overlap between G. Journal and
WoGue. There are totally different things.
However I included a G Journal icon on Explorer tab. We can republish G
Journal news there by reference on gnomejournal.org.

*About licences*
We release under Free of any licence. But I afraid we have to change this,
because we have issues with the work of other people that we use, like
republishing things, or using Faenza Icons.

*About WoGue Goals*
Our primary goal is to bring Design Ideas for GNOME from Mailing Lists and
Blogs to one place, and give people that aren't on "Gnome", "Linux", "etc",
the opportunity to express their opinion, and to get a better product by
getting new ideas based on their wishes. Gnome is a community project after
all.
Secondary goal is to convince people that Gnome is the best thing out there
(I personally think so).
Last Goal is to make an enjoyable page for people to read.

*About WoGue Content*
It would be great if we could run a site only with the primary
goal. Unfortunately I doubt if we can collect so many stuff, so we need to
enrich the page a bit.

So we added the *Gnome Stories* area.
People can say what they like in Gnome (assuming that Gnome is OS), when
they tried it first time, and things like that...

We also have *Theming & Personalization*
We picked some of the best themes on our opinion and we represent them. Same
thing with Extensions.

*Interviews*
One of our major parts is to having interviews from Gnome Design Team (and
other people of course), about why they do that, what they are going to do
next, no technical analysis, simple things, that are enjoyable to read and
helpfull to learn and understand.

*Games*
Leaving out Web, 90% of software is Games. Games is an important factor for
an OS to be succeed. People are looking for games and they may choose to use
Gnome if they are happy with games on it.

*Commercial Software*
Well, I think we have to refer on this also. We use closed drivers, closed
hardware, Flash etc. We are going to show Games even if are commercials.
However we are not 100% sure about it.

Anyway I don't want to spend your time with a huge text, I just wanted to
explain what WoGue is about.
I hope you will not have any issues with our work, and we would really
appreciateif  you to CC us your Design Ideas and News from Mailing Lists and
your Blogs so we can publish them on our page. we can't follow all of them
:(


We don't ask your TM Logo, just a logo that is similar with it :) a
Besides, WoGue is not going to represent GNOME,  WoGue is trying to
advertise GNOME.

Friendly,

 - alex




On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

> Allan,
>
> It seems World Of GNOME and GNOME Journal have some overlap.  We might need
> to discuss this a little bit I think.
>
> sri
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:50 AM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We plan to release worldofgnome.org some day this week -Thursday
>> most probably- and we still haven't any answer from you about if we have the
>> right to use the Gnome Logo.
>> Our logo is just a text "WoGue" and we want to add Gnome Icon next to it.
>>
>> We don't claim any rights on our work, or on our logo and we don't go
>> commercial in any way.
>>
>> If we haven't any answer from you by the time we release it, we assume
>> that we can use Gnome logo as a part of ours (actually next to ours not part
>> of it),
>> and we discuss it between us if we should or shouldn't not use it.
>>
>> Hope hearing from you,
>> Thank you
>>
>> - alex
>>
>>
>>
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Re: GNOME Journal and World of GNOME Re: About worldofgnome org

[alex diavatis]

Hello Sri,

The principle goal of GJ is to promote GNOME through articles.  You had
> mentioned interviews and the like and that's where I felt the overlap was.

How many people are in your tam to do this?  I'm just curious?  Would they
> be available to work on GNOME things for marketing/ GNOME Journal as well?


Right now we are 3. Seems few, but we are ok to produce the kind of material
we want. For example, 1 of us writes on osarena.net. He manages 20
interviews a month.
On contrary with GJ we want much more simpler things, we target to easiness
of read. We don't want so much technical. And we go beyond Gnome also.
We consider GNOME and Linux one thing.
We have a section called Community. We will try somehow to bring together
some GNOME sources.

Would be glad if we could help you, but we haven't the knowledge to write so
deep articles as GJ has. And personally I don't want to committed as I have
huge amount of work.
Basically we need you to help us :)
On the end of the day we have to see how the people will respond, we haven't
open yet, if we get like 500 hits a day, there is no meaning to continue :)


Regards
- alex

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:24 PM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I uploaded an empty early draft (many things have changed, don't freak
>> out!) to show you what WoGue is about.
>> You can see it on 
>> http://worldofgnome.org/404/woguedemo/<http://worldofgnome.org/404/woguedemo/index.php>
>>  (hover
>> mouse on banner to open Menu)
>>
>> Ramkrishna I think there is not any kind of overlap between G. Journal and
>> WoGue. There are totally different things.
>> However I included a G Journal icon on Explorer tab. We can republish G
>> Journal news there by reference on gnomejournal.org.
>>
>
> That would be appreciateed, thank you.  The principle goal of GJ is to
> promote GNOME through articles.  You had mentioned interviews and the like
> and that's where I felt the overlap was.
>
> How many people are in your tam to do this?  I'm just curious?  Would they
> be available to work on GNOME things for marketing/ GNOME Journal as well?
>
> sri
>
>
>>
>> *About licences*
>> We release under Free of any licence. But I afraid we have to change this,
>> because we have issues with the work of other people that we use, like
>> republishing things, or using Faenza Icons.
>>
>> *About WoGue Goals*
>> Our primary goal is to bring Design Ideas for GNOME from Mailing Lists and
>> Blogs to one place, and give people that aren't on "Gnome", "Linux", "etc",
>> the opportunity to express their opinion, and to get a better product by
>> getting new ideas based on their wishes. Gnome is a community project after
>> all.
>> Secondary goal is to convince people that Gnome is the best thing out
>> there (I personally think so).
>> Last Goal is to make an enjoyable page for people to read.
>>
>> *About WoGue Content*
>> It would be great if we could run a site only with the primary
>> goal. Unfortunately I doubt if we can collect so many stuff, so we need to
>> enrich the page a bit.
>>
>> So we added the *Gnome Stories* area.
>> People can say what they like in Gnome (assuming that Gnome is OS), when
>> they tried it first time, and things like that...
>>
>> We also have *Theming & Personalization*
>> We picked some of the best themes on our opinion and we represent them.
>> Same thing with Extensions.
>>
>> *Interviews*
>> One of our major parts is to having interviews from Gnome Design Team (and
>> other people of course), about why they do that, what they are going to do
>> next, no technical analysis, simple things, that are enjoyable to read and
>> helpfull to learn and understand.
>>
>> *Games*
>> Leaving out Web, 90% of software is Games. Games is an important factor
>> for an OS to be succeed. People are looking for games and they may choose to
>> use Gnome if they are happy with games on it.
>>
>> *Commercial Software*
>> Well, I think we have to refer on this also. We use closed drivers, closed
>> hardware, Flash etc. We are going to show Games even if are commercials.
>> However we are not 100% sure about it.
>>
>> Anyway I don't want to spend your time with a huge text, I just wanted to
>> explain what WoGue is about.
>> I hope you will not have any issues with our work, and we would really
>> appreciateif  you to CC us your Design Ideas and News from Mailing Lists and
>> your Blogs so we

Wogue participation page

[alex diavatis]

Hello all,

Well from today we start to advertise worldofgnome.org as we need people to
sent us some work
I post an email at
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-October/msg00072.html .

We are building some really nice stuff to see (I guess next 10 days will be
ready) and plus we changed our licenses
and we don't use Gnome Logo at all.
We want your support specially in organizing our "Gnome Community Section"
and somehow include GJ and Gnome
developers blogs

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Re: Developing GNOME News

[alex diavatis]

Hello Allan,

I think that gnome.org consistency is a bit broken on several areas, for
example on gnome.org we have latest news that are totally different from
latest news on news.gnome.org.
I don't think that the news should be on a sub-domain, news is a core module
of Gnome Page and should always be present on the Home Page and on main
domain also.

On WoGue I build home page using widgets (some similar to windows 8) that
represents sections of our site, eg News, Games, Successfully Stories etc..
Widget's style-sheet is defined from last update date, I keep them small (so
I can use a lot on home page without making seem heavy) and I display last
news on a single line,
I expand them on mouse event, and I give two options: Read a specific Item,
or Visit the whole section that this item exists.
I think that the result I have accomplish is pretty (even if I don't know
Gimp :) ) quick and practical.

Well my opinion is that on gnome home page, you have to offer easy and quick
access to everything, and widget blocks is a nice solution to keep things
simple and minimalist.

We can display official gnome news on one of our widgets using RSS, Ajax or
something.
Our material exceeds Gnome and we get things that Gnome Page can't present
like Themes (http://art.gnome.org/themes page is dead?) Games and
Interviews.
We are planning services for Thumps up/Down, Sorting by criteria on Games
and Themes (and maybe extensions and Gnome Apps when they get online) but
our main purpose is
to present future Ideas on Gnome. and let people that read us, to Thumps
them up if they like them.

I guess there is space on WoGue as we cannot present actually Gnome news,
because we don't know them, we learn them from you :)

We would be more than happy if we could merge in a way of covering different
aspects for Gnome

Regards,
- alex


On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Allan Day  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My action item from last week's meeting was to mail the list about
> options for our news sites. So here we go!
>
> The question is how we should develop GNOME's news sites and what role
> GNOME Journal should have. A number of goals were brought up in our
> discussion last week, including:
>
>  * Doing a better job of getting the news out
>  * Enabling people to contribute to GNOME marketing more easily
>  * Reducing fragmentation of our news sources
>
> I'm personally keen to address these issues and could use some of my
> time working on them. It seems like there are a few possible
> approaches:
>
> *** Turn GNOME Journal into a blog ***
>
> I spoke to the previous journal editors about publishing more
> regularly and they weren't too keen. The future for GNOME Journal
> seems uncertain right now, since it lacks contributors.
>
> *** Make gnome.org the primary site for GNOME news ***
>
> We already have a news feed on the site and this could be expanded to
> include a greater variety of content. I think the question here is
> whether we want to expand the role of gnome.org away from 'official'
> announcements and news. My sense is that we don't, but I would be
> interested to hear other peoples' views on this.
>
> *** Use news.gnome.org ***
>
> This only carries syndicated content right now. We could turn it into
> a site that pushes stories from elsewhere and has its own original
> content, however (like LWN does). This approach appeals to me because
> it would mean that we would have a single place for both kinds of
> content. GNOME News could also pull in content from GNOME Journal and
> gnome.org, creating a single place for news.
>
> *** Wogue ***
>
> It's great to see a new volunteer-run effort, and I certainly wouldn't
> want to compete with it. We could leave Wogue to take care of the news
> problem for us, but I suspect that it is targeting a slightly
> different audience from the one that we are interested in, and that
> there is space for us to have our own site too. We should certainly
> work to ensure that our efforts don't overlap with Wogue's as it
> develops.
>
> So, which of these options do people prefer? I'd really like to hear
> your views on this!
>
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Successfully Deployment Stories / Show Cases

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

There is some place I can get successfully cases of Gnome Technologies
Deployment?
I can easily find some cases on Google but I was wondering if you already
have them on one place.


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Re: Successfully Deployment Stories / Show Cases

[alex diavatis]

Thank you Marin

- alex

2011/10/31 Juanjo Marín 

>
>
>
> >____
> >De: alex diavatis 
> >Para: GNOME Marketing List 
> >Enviado: lunes 31 de octubre de 2011 16:33
> >Asunto: Successfully Deployment Stories / Show Cases
> >
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >There is some place I can get successfully cases of Gnome Technologies
> Deployment?
> >I can easily find some cases on Google but I was wondering if you already
> have them on one place.
> >
> >
>
>
> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>-- Juanjo Marin
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extensions.gnome.org release date?

[alex diavatis]

Hello people,

Do we know when the extensions.gnome.org is opening?

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Re: extensions.gnome.org release date?

[alex diavatis]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Olav Vitters  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:58:55PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:58:44PM +0200, alex diavatis wrote:
> > > Do we know when the extensions.gnome.org is opening?
> >
> > Under active development @ gnome-shell-list (cc'ed).
>
> Heard there will be a public beta on Dec 1st. No guarantees the date
> will be met.
> --
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> Olav
>

Is the most awaiting thing after 3.0 release.. Is too bad to be so much
delayed :(
Well, 20 more days.. Can we see some draft of it ?

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Wogue changes target

[alex diavatis]

Well, I have some bad news and some good news.

I ll start from bad news,
I discovered what I was doing on WoGue involves too much time that I don't
have. Reading and posting design mockups from git, and mailing lists is
some boring and repeated work. Plus I see you re-organize GNOME page, so
you might cover what I was going to do.
On the other hand interviews will be covered by osarena.org and if not, I
will include them
So I decided to let the original idea go.

and the good news,
Instead of the old plan, I ll do something more useful, an online
application market for GNOME (& Linux), with install links for Fedora and
Ubuntu, small reviews, and voting.
Later on I ll add and a Disqus comment system.

I ll include the as many applications is possible both commercial and open,
and we can add daily. I guess I can't have a versioning or changelog on
apps, but well is a start :)
I think is a good idea to have all applications that runs on GNOME under
one place, and probably I will change domain at some point and I will let
people to upload their apps.

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Finally we open woGue :)

[alex diavatis]

Well, we haven't managed to complete what we wanted, so we will start with
a blog, because we have to start at some point :)

We want an exclusively GNOME blog, to have all gnome news in one place, and
also we want to present some art and apps.
Moreover we want to have people to talk about the present and the future of
gnome, this is particularly you,
the gnome developers :)

I want to ask you if you have any issue with the domain

http://worldofgnome.org

and if you have, it's ok, we got also wogue.org and we can change our
domain name.

Our plan is to move this blog @ wogue.org and build a cool maps app for
gnome in worldofgnome.org

Current blog is totally unfinished,  but we had to open it for debug some
services that are registered on domain.
We are going to release it on 29 same day as Fedora -except if there is
another delay :)

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Re: Finally we open woGue :)

[alex diavatis]

Hello Karen,

I think I used bad English before, by exclusively I meant that we gonna
write only for GNOME, - and things related to it - not that we want
exclusive rights on GNOME or anything  :)
We just want to make a playground for GNOME, with design ideas, news and
opinions from MLs, GNOME's devs blogs, make some voting etc.. I will also
mention on our terms that we are not related to GNOME foundation in any
way, it is just a fan page :)

About wog term I remember what you said so I didn't use it, I renamed it to
wogue. However you can't pay attention to anything that it might bother
someone, I hate traffic,
but I can live with it.. you know what I mean :)

Well the theme doesn't looks like GNOME, but that's called diversity :)  By
the way our "logo" isn't actually a logo, is just a free font, and we don't
copyright it.
"Another blog GNOME blog" is the site description and no part of our name,
I know I use the word GNOME, but what else we can write there? Is just a
blog for GNOME :)

If there are any issues however, feel free to tell us to change it.
Absolutely no problems :)

- alex

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Karen Sandler  wrote:

> Hi Alex!
>
>
> On 2012-05-21 16:27, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>> Well, we haven't managed to complete what we wanted, so we will start
>> with a blog, because we have to start at some point :)
>>
>> We want an exclusively GNOME blog, to have all gnome news in one
>> place, and also we want to present some art and apps.
>> Moreover we want to have people to talk about the present and the
>> future of gnome, this is particularly you,
>> the gnome developers :)
>>
>> I want to ask you if you have any issue with the domain
>>
>> http://worldofgnome.org [1]
>>
>> and if you have, it's ok, we got also wogue.org [2] and we can
>> change our domain name.
>>
>
> As I wrote to you at the end of last year, you should be aware that the
> term "wog" in a few English speaking cultures (though not in the United
> States to my knowledge) is a derogatory term. Because of this you may want
> to rethink your website name rather than inadvertently offend anyone.
>
> Also, don't forget to stay within the confines of GNOME's trademark
> policy: 
> https://live.gnome.org/**Foundation/LicensingGuidelines<https://live.gnome.org/Foundation/LicensingGuidelines>and
>  ask us for permission to do anything outside of it. I see that now in
> the template, for example, it's unclear what kind of connection your
> website might have to the official GNOME Foundation and project.  I think
> you'll need to be particularly careful and clear, since you hope to use the
> name GNOME (our registered mark) in the title of at least one of your URLs.
>
> karen
>
>
>
>> Our plan is to move this blog @ wogue.org [3] and build a cool maps
>> app for gnome in worldofgnome.org [4]
>>
>>
>> Current blog is totally unfinished,  but we had to open it for debug
>> some services that are registered on domain.
>> We are going to release it on 29 same day as Fedora -except if there
>> is another delay :)
>>
>> That's all :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> --
>> [1] http://worldofgnome.org
>> [2] http://wogue.org
>> [3] http://wogue.org
>> [4] http://worldofgnome.org
>>
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GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git  similar
the way that http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/ does, in order to make
some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
week/month/year/version.

I prefer some json or xml so I can take it online at real time.

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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

oh alright, I ll check how git log works.

I want the commits of all projects in gnome git, divided by
week/month/year/version.
That means the last 7 days, the last 30 days and the last year and the
commits that go in certain branches (i.e 3.0, 3.2, etc)

If you could give me the git scripts to do this would be great.
Of course I ll check right now how to do that :)

Thanks!


On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 16:56 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
> > I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git
> >  similar the way that http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/ does, in
> > order to make
> > some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
> > week/month/year/version.
>
> Not sure what you want. The log entries? Just amounts of commits?
> In general you can do a lot with "git log" in every module.
>
> andre
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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

haha I was already reading that!

well thanks!

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM, J. Félix Ontañón wrote:

> 2012/6/4 alex diavatis :
> > oh alright, I ll check how git log works.
> >
> > I want the commits of all projects in gnome git, divided by
> > week/month/year/version.
> > That means the last 7 days, the last 30 days and the last year and the
> > commits that go in certain branches (i.e 3.0, 3.2, etc)
> >
> > If you could give me the git scripts to do this would be great.
> > Of course I ll check right now how to do that :)
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> Hi,
>
> I think this resource would be helpful:
> http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Basics-Viewing-the-Commit-History
>
> Kind regards,
>
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 16:56 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
> >> > I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git
> >> >  similar the way that http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/ does, in
> >> > order to make
> >> > some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
> >> > week/month/year/version.
> >>
> >> Not sure what you want. The log entries? Just amounts of commits?
> >> In general you can do a lot with "git log" in every module.
> >>
> >> andre
> >>
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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

aw that was beautiful! I cloned gnome-shell and I generated pies in 20mins!

but how I can run logs on remote git? I can't clone the whole gnome and
update it every week.

there is a way?

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 17:15 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
> > I want the commits of all projects in gnome git, divided by
> > week/month/year/version.
> > That means the last 7 days, the last 30 days and the last year and the
> > commits that go in certain branches (i.e 3.0, 3.2, etc)
>
> Reusing some of the commands in
> http://people.gnome.org/~aklapper/guadec2010/git-modules.sh might save
> you some time (warning: weird stuff I tried two years ago).
>
> Also check https://projects.libresoft.es/projects/cvsanaly .
>
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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> "git log " with the appropriate arguments (date, include diffs,
> etc) will give you all the information you need. Something like gitdm will
> parse and summarise the information for you, but if you want to do a
> week-by-week or month-by-month summary, you'll either need to script your
> git logs, or do some hacking to extract the relevant bits from the logs.
>
>
hello Dave,

It is easy to fetch the data I want from git, if I have it on local. But I
want to fetch the data from the remote gnome git because I cannot clone it,
is big :)
How I can do this?



> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
>
> On 06/04/2012 03:56 PM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git  similar
>> the way that 
>> http://blogs.gnome.org/**commitdigest/<http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/>does,
>>  in order to make
>> some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
>> week/month/year/version.
>>
>> I prefer some json or xml so I can take it online at real time.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

I uploaded a demo to be clear what I want to do at
http://wogue.org/test-git/

I want to be able to run remotely git logs and bring it asynchronously on
my page.
but how I can run git on a remote repo without ssh? :)




On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:14 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> "git log " with the appropriate arguments (date, include diffs,
>> etc) will give you all the information you need. Something like gitdm will
>> parse and summarise the information for you, but if you want to do a
>> week-by-week or month-by-month summary, you'll either need to script your
>> git logs, or do some hacking to extract the relevant bits from the logs.
>>
>>
> hello Dave,
>
> It is easy to fetch the data I want from git, if I have it on local. But I
> want to fetch the data from the remote gnome git because I cannot clone it,
> is big :)
> How I can do this?
>
>
>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>> On 06/04/2012 03:56 PM, alex diavatis wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git  similar
>>> the way that 
>>> http://blogs.gnome.org/**commitdigest/<http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/>does,
>>>  in order to make
>>> some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
>>> week/month/year/version.
>>>
>>> I prefer some json or xml so I can take it online at real time.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

I tried with git ls-remote but no luck :(

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

> I uploaded a demo to be clear what I want to do at
> http://wogue.org/test-git/
>
> I want to be able to run remotely git logs and bring it asynchronously on
> my page.
> but how I can run git on a remote repo without ssh? :)
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:14 PM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> "git log " with the appropriate arguments (date, include diffs,
>>> etc) will give you all the information you need. Something like gitdm will
>>> parse and summarise the information for you, but if you want to do a
>>> week-by-week or month-by-month summary, you'll either need to script your
>>> git logs, or do some hacking to extract the relevant bits from the logs.
>>>
>>>
>> hello Dave,
>>
>> It is easy to fetch the data I want from git, if I have it on local. But
>> I want to fetch the data from the remote gnome git because I cannot clone
>> it, is big :)
>> How I can do this?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/04/2012 03:56 PM, alex diavatis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git  similar
>>>> the way that 
>>>> http://blogs.gnome.org/**commitdigest/<http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/>does,
>>>>  in order to make
>>>> some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
>>>> week/month/year/version.
>>>>
>>>> I prefer some json or xml so I can take it online at real time.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

I asked Jasper, and he said what I want isn't possible. So consider this
thread closed!

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:44 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

> I tried with git ls-remote but no luck :(
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>> I uploaded a demo to be clear what I want to do at
>> http://wogue.org/test-git/
>>
>> I want to be able to run remotely git logs and bring it asynchronously on
>> my page.
>> but how I can run git on a remote repo without ssh? :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:14 PM, alex diavatis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>
>>>> "git log " with the appropriate arguments (date, include diffs,
>>>> etc) will give you all the information you need. Something like gitdm will
>>>> parse and summarise the information for you, but if you want to do a
>>>> week-by-week or month-by-month summary, you'll either need to script your
>>>> git logs, or do some hacking to extract the relevant bits from the logs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> hello Dave,
>>>
>>> It is easy to fetch the data I want from git, if I have it on local. But
>>> I want to fetch the data from the remote gnome git because I cannot clone
>>> it, is big :)
>>> How I can do this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/04/2012 03:56 PM, alex diavatis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git
>>>>>  similar
>>>>> the way that 
>>>>> http://blogs.gnome.org/**commitdigest/<http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/>does,
>>>>>  in order to make
>>>>> some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
>>>>> week/month/year/version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer some json or xml so I can take it online at real time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: GNOME Commit-Digest

[alex diavatis]

Nice one, thank you!

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Olav Vitters  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 04:56:22PM +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
> > I was wondering how can extract the commits data from gnome git  similar
> > the way that http://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/ does, in order to make
> > some html5 pies charts, just to compare the development per
> > week/month/year/version.
>
> GNOME sends all commit data to http://cia.vc. I think it uses free
> software and is backed by a database. Try asking them.
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Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

Hello!

4 things

1. As you want to re-design your live pages, I have a small proposal. You
can use on your banner a graph that will be updated from commits in GNOME
git.
Similar on the quick charts I made (
http://worldofgnome.org/shell-story-with-charts/) you can make a "road to
3.6 with commits", from 3.4 (left) to 3.6(right) release.
You can have nice animated graphs with jquery and Rgraph or easel, or even
make it real time with nodejs.

2. We have unexpected lot of people considering that we are online 4-5 days
and the purpose of this blog was mostly to have people talking. So can we
have
some small interviews from the BoD of GNOME? -mostly talking for the future
of GNOME on commercial use, touch screens etc...

3. We want to post some successfully GNOME deployment stories but your page
(https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments) is outdated :(
Any other source I can look for?

4. We want to run a contest "file a bug for a sticker". So whoever file a
new bug we will send him a gnome sticker. Possibly none will response to
this, but
you never know, so we need to have some, but where we can buy from?

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Re: Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

Hello Dave!

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi!
>
>
> On 06/07/2012 04:05 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>> 2. We have unexpected lot of people considering that we are online 4-5
>> days and the purpose of this blog was mostly to have people talking. So
>> can we have
>> some small interviews from the BoD of GNOME? -mostly talking for the
>> future of GNOME on commercial use, touch screens etc...
>>
>
> Perhaps not the board, but I think the idea of short blog-sized interviews
> going out weekly is a great idea. We need a list of interviewees and
> volunteer interviewers, and someone watching out for people we can add to
> the list/bump to the top as current news requires.\


There is no need to complicate things :) We would like to have interviews
with developers from specific projects: gtk/clutter porting to wayland,
mutter/shell, epiphany, boxes, online accounts -as priority. I asked also
BoD because, it would be nice if someone could talk about the marketing
goals of GNOME. But in general yes we want in a weekly base people from
GNOME to talk on public.

>
>
>  3. We want to post some successfully GNOME deployment stories but your
>> page 
>> (https://live.gnome.org/**GnomeMarketing/**GnomeDeployments<https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments>)
>> is
>> outdated :(
>> Any other source I can look for?
>>
>
> I'm afraid not! That list was put together originally in 2006, partially
> updated in 2008, and as Juanjo said, he updated details on 1 or 2
> deployments this year. But we're lacking a good way to find out about
> reference deployments of GNOME because a lot of them are Red Hat Enterprise
> deployments or Suse Linux. We've actually had more success getting
> references from Suse and Ubuntu than from Red Hat for some reason. Not sure
> why that is.


Maybe the guys from RH could give us some info about the deployments they
do, or it is secret? :)


>
>
>  4. We want to run a contest "file a bug for a sticker". So whoever file
>> a new bug we will send him a gnome sticker. Possibly none will response
>> to this, but
>> you never know, so we need to have some, but where we can buy from?
>>
>
> I don't think we've ever had stickers to sell, but we often print out
> sticker sheets for conferences. Perhaps someone from gnome-fr or GNOME can
> send you some, if we have an address.
>

At some point a GNOME online store wouldn't be bad idea, not for the profit
but everyone has one :) I will ask Greek GNOME ambassador for it then.


>
> May I ask who "we" is?
>

Hmm? I am referring to wogue blog if is that what you asking


>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
>
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Re: Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 06/07/2012 10:14 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dave Neary > <mailto:dne...@gnome.org>> wrote:
>>Perhaps not the board, but I think the idea of short blog-sized
>>interviews going out weekly is a great idea. We need a list of
>>interviewees and volunteer interviewers, and someone watching out
>>for people we can add to the list/bump to the top as current news
>>requires.\
>>
>> There is no need to complicate things :) We would like to have
>> interviews with developers from specific projects: gtk/clutter porting
>> to wayland, mutter/shell, epiphany, boxes, online accounts -as priority.
>> I asked also BoD because, it would be nice if someone could talk about
>> the marketing goals of GNOME. But in general yes we want in a weekly
>> base people from GNOME to talk on public.
>>
>
> It's not - but you still need a list.
>
> gtk/clutter to Wayland: Emmanuele Bassi maybe?
> mutter/shell: Owen Taylor, Jon McCann, Jasper St. Pierre, Florian Muellner?
> Epiphany: Xan Lopez, Claudio Saavedra
> Boxes: Zeeshan Ali
> Online accounts: No idea.
>
> BoD (outgoing): Brian Cameron, Emmanuele Bassi, Bastien Nocera, Ryan
> Lortie, Stormy Peters, Shaun McCance, German Poo Caamano
>
> Executive director: Karen Sandler


Thank you, I will email some of these people :)


>
>
> I'm afraid not! That list was put together originally in 2006,
>>partially updated in 2008, and as Juanjo said, he updated details on
>>1 or 2 deployments this year. But we're lacking a good way to find
>>out about reference deployments of GNOME because a lot of them are
>>Red Hat Enterprise deployments or Suse Linux. We've actually had
>>more success getting references from Suse and Ubuntu than from Red
>>Hat for some reason. Not sure why that is.
>>
>>
>> Maybe the guys from RH could give us some info about the deployments
>> they do, or it is secret? :)
>>
>
> You put a smiley, but yes, it often is. Clients have to give permission to
> Red Hat before they can talk about them. I can dig around now I'm inside
> and see if I can come up with some good GNOME-related interviews & case
> studies we may use.


Thanks!

>
>
> I don't think we've ever had stickers to sell, but we often print
>>out sticker sheets for conferences. Perhaps someone from gnome-fr or
>>GNOME can send you some, if we have an address.
>>
>>
>> At some point a GNOME online store wouldn't be bad idea, not for the
>> profit but everyone has one :) I will ask Greek GNOME ambassador for it
>> then.
>>
>>
>>May I ask who "we" is?
>>
>>
>> Hmm? I am referring to wogue blog if is that what you asking
>>
>
> Yes - I meant "are you saying "we" as in gnome marketing with weekly
> interviews for the GNOME News blog, or "we" as in some external site. Seems
> to be the latter. Thanks for clearing that up.


Yes I was talking about wogue, but that doesn't mean that won't be nice if
you do it for the GNOME page. But for some unknown to me reason you don't
keep an active blog.
That's why we begin wogue. We don't do great, but we ll do better in a
while :)

>


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Re: Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Brett Legree wrote:

> Re: #4:
>
> CafePress does nice work for stickers/decals, and coincidentally I had a
> custom one made for myself some time ago just like this
> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-2.jpg
>  I
> thought it would look nice on my laptop!
>
> I am sure there are others too.
>

Sure there are places, I can go to a store in Athens (Greece) to print
GNOME stickers for free. I just asked to have the "originals".


>
> -Brett
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:14 AM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Dave!
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/07/2012 04:05 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2. We have unexpected lot of people considering that we are online 4-5
>>>> days and the purpose of this blog was mostly to have people talking. So
>>>> can we have
>>>> some small interviews from the BoD of GNOME? -mostly talking for the
>>>> future of GNOME on commercial use, touch screens etc...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps not the board, but I think the idea of short blog-sized
>>> interviews going out weekly is a great idea. We need a list of interviewees
>>> and volunteer interviewers, and someone watching out for people we can add
>>> to the list/bump to the top as current news requires.\
>>
>>
>> There is no need to complicate things :) We would like to have interviews
>> with developers from specific projects: gtk/clutter porting to wayland,
>> mutter/shell, epiphany, boxes, online accounts -as priority. I asked also
>> BoD because, it would be nice if someone could talk about the marketing
>> goals of GNOME. But in general yes we want in a weekly base people from
>> GNOME to talk on public.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  3. We want to post some successfully GNOME deployment stories but your
>>>> page 
>>>> (https://live.gnome.org/**GnomeMarketing/**GnomeDeployments<https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments>)
>>>> is
>>>> outdated :(
>>>> Any other source I can look for?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm afraid not! That list was put together originally in 2006, partially
>>> updated in 2008, and as Juanjo said, he updated details on 1 or 2
>>> deployments this year. But we're lacking a good way to find out about
>>> reference deployments of GNOME because a lot of them are Red Hat Enterprise
>>> deployments or Suse Linux. We've actually had more success getting
>>> references from Suse and Ubuntu than from Red Hat for some reason. Not sure
>>> why that is.
>>
>>
>> Maybe the guys from RH could give us some info about the deployments they
>> do, or it is secret? :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  4. We want to run a contest "file a bug for a sticker". So whoever file
>>>> a new bug we will send him a gnome sticker. Possibly none will response
>>>> to this, but
>>>> you never know, so we need to have some, but where we can buy from?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think we've ever had stickers to sell, but we often print out
>>> sticker sheets for conferences. Perhaps someone from gnome-fr or GNOME can
>>> send you some, if we have an address.
>>>
>>
>> At some point a GNOME online store wouldn't be bad idea, not for the
>> profit but everyone has one :) I will ask Greek GNOME ambassador for it
>> then.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> May I ask who "we" is?
>>>
>>
>> Hmm? I am referring to wogue blog if is that what you asking
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
>> - alex
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Re: Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 06/07/2012 11:09 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>>Yes - I meant "are you saying "we" as in gnome marketing with weekly
>>interviews for the GNOME News blog, or "we" as in some external
>>site. Seems to be the latter. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>
>>
>> Yes I was talking about wogue, but that doesn't mean that won't be nice
>> if you do it for the GNOME page. But for some unknown to me reason you
>> don't keep an active blog.
>> That's why we begin wogue. We don't do great, but we ll do better in a
>> while :)
>>
>
> I was hoping that you meant "we" as in GNOME. I think interviews for the
> GNOME news page is an excellent idea, for example, as is refreshing the
> testimonials & references page. Your "we want to run a bug opening contest"
> threw me off though.
>
> May I suggest that if you want to take on the interviews that you do them
> for gnome.org and reprint to wogue?
>

That would be ideal, I will contact GNOME devs to asking them, and I will
submit their interviews here so you can publish them, and I will republish
on us.


>
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>
> Dave.
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Re: Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Brett Legree wrote:

> I guess I misunderstood your original question :)
>
> Once we decide how to do #4 and have settled on the designs, I can take
> care of sending stickers to anyone from Canada (as I am here).
>

That's very kind of you, thanks! Of course I am willing to pay!


>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:12 AM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Brett Legree wrote:
>>
>>> Re: #4:
>>>
>>> CafePress does nice work for stickers/decals, and coincidentally I had a
>>> custom one made for myself some time ago just like this
>>> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-2.jpg
>>>  I
>>> thought it would look nice on my laptop!
>>>
>>> I am sure there are others too.
>>>
>>
>> Sure there are places, I can go to a store in Athens (Greece) to print
>> GNOME stickers for free. I just asked to have the "originals".
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -Brett
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:14 AM, alex diavatis >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Dave!
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/07/2012 04:05 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. We have unexpected lot of people considering that we are online 4-5
>>>>>> days and the purpose of this blog was mostly to have people talking.
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> can we have
>>>>>> some small interviews from the BoD of GNOME? -mostly talking for the
>>>>>> future of GNOME on commercial use, touch screens etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps not the board, but I think the idea of short blog-sized
>>>>> interviews going out weekly is a great idea. We need a list of 
>>>>> interviewees
>>>>> and volunteer interviewers, and someone watching out for people we can add
>>>>> to the list/bump to the top as current news requires.\
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no need to complicate things :) We would like to have
>>>> interviews with developers from specific projects: gtk/clutter porting to
>>>> wayland, mutter/shell, epiphany, boxes, online accounts -as priority. I
>>>> asked also BoD because, it would be nice if someone could talk about the
>>>> marketing goals of GNOME. But in general yes we want in a weekly base
>>>> people from GNOME to talk on public.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  3. We want to post some successfully GNOME deployment stories but your
>>>>>> page 
>>>>>> (https://live.gnome.org/**GnomeMarketing/**GnomeDeployments<https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments>)
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> outdated :(
>>>>>> Any other source I can look for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid not! That list was put together originally in 2006,
>>>>> partially updated in 2008, and as Juanjo said, he updated details on 1 or 
>>>>> 2
>>>>> deployments this year. But we're lacking a good way to find out about
>>>>> reference deployments of GNOME because a lot of them are Red Hat 
>>>>> Enterprise
>>>>> deployments or Suse Linux. We've actually had more success getting
>>>>> references from Suse and Ubuntu than from Red Hat for some reason. Not 
>>>>> sure
>>>>> why that is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the guys from RH could give us some info about the deployments
>>>> they do, or it is secret? :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  4. We want to run a contest "file a bug for a sticker". So whoever
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> a new bug we will send him a gnome sticker. Possibly none will
>>>>>> response
>>>>>> to this, but
>>>>>> you never know, so we need to have some, but where we can buy from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we've ever had stickers to sell, but we often print out
>>>>> sticker sheets for conferences. Perhaps someone from gnome-fr or GNOME can
>>>>> send you some, if we have an address.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At some point a GNOME online store wouldn't be bad idea, not for the
>>>> profit but everyone has one :) I will ask Greek GNOME ambassador for it
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> May I ask who "we" is?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmm? I am referring to wogue blog if is that what you asking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Dave.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> - alex
>>>>
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Re: Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 06/07/2012 11:24 AM, Brett Legree wrote:
>
>> I guess I misunderstood your original question :)
>>
>> Once we decide how to do #4 and have settled on the designs, I can take
>> care of sending stickers to anyone from Canada (as I am here).
>>
>
> We have designs for sticker sheets which have been very popular in the
> wiki: https://live.gnome.org/**MarketingTeam/**MarketingMaterial?action=**
> AttachFile&do=view&target=**gnome-stickers.svg
>
> As I said before, we regularly do print runs of them for the event box and
> for events, so it's possible that someone could send some out to you.
>

Great as long as I have the icons I can print them by myself! Just let me
know (somehow) when you have the new ones!


>
> Note to the marketing team in general: by moving the 
> "MarketingTeam/**MarketingMaterial"
> page to "GnomeMarketing/**MarketingMaterial", we have orphaned all of the
> attachments which had been uploaded to that page. The attachments also need
> to be manually renamed when moving a page. I actually consider this a bug
> in MoinMoin, but that's neither here nor there.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
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Re: Interviews please? :)

[alex diavatis]

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Mathias Hasselmann <
mathias.hasselm...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> please don't blame Alex for the insults I publicly receive from active
> board members, under support ("+1") from other former board members.
>

am I missing something?


>
> Ciao,
> Mathias
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 07.06.2012, 16:18 +0200 schrieb Michael Hasselmann:
> > Dear Alex,
> >
> > a bit unrelated, but then again not really. I notice that you are a big
> > fan of smilies. Smilies make sense in informal conversation, or if we
> > need to indicate satirical or comical content (because that often gets
> > misunderstood).
> >
> > But :) using :/ smilies just for the sake :-(( of using them is
> > >:-( annoying.
> >
> > You also do that on your blog, in the titles of the articles themselves.
> > What is the meaning there? Should I not take your blog serious? Is it
> > all just a comedy?
> >
> > Please try to only use smilies where it makes sense.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
>
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Re: New design Live Gnome

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org, or is just a wish list item?
If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We have
5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help Elena.
Small chance but is is still there :)

- alex


On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:

> Hi Elena!
>
> Some more feedback.  I feel like the page itself is a little busy.  How
> about this suggestion - make a single box called workspaces and move the
> team and module maintenance pages into there?  Make another box called
> "Improve GNOME" and then move all the various links at the bottom into
> that?  That will reduce the clutter.
>
> The boxes themselves use a hard black line as a border, I suggest
> feathering it at the edges so they have a softer look.  I'm sure Andreas or
> someone who understands CSS better than I. :-)
>
> Hope the feedback is useful.  Thanks for taking this on!  We really need
> it!
>
> sri
>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Elena Petrevska <
> elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ome further changes : http://imgu 
>>
>
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Re: New design Live Gnome

[alex diavatis]

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:

> On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 20:51 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
> > Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org, or is just a wish list
> > item?
> > If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We
> > have 5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help
> > Elena.
> > Small chance but is is still there :)
>
> While the intention is good I am afraid that this would bring us back to
> the start (plus adds some potential for bikeshed discussions), while
> Elena's proposal has already seen and passed a few iterations.
>

I thought so, that's why I asked, ok!


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Re: New design Live Gnome

[alex diavatis]

Hello Elena,

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Elena Petrevska  wrote:

>  Alex,
>
> it will be amazing if you may include more people that may contribute ! It
> will be very useful, because as I said on the blog, More brains are better
> than one :)
>

Klapper suggested that this isn't good idea. It is also quite likely that
none won't respond, but as I always say, you never know :)
So if you want me to print it out, I will. Personally I think is a good
idea because even if none will help, it still will seem like GNOME is a
community project,
that everyone can easily involve with, and it will earn more sympathy.

- alex



>
> Thank you very much !
> Elena
>
>
> On 06/09/2012 07:51 PM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>  Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org, or is just a wish list item?
> If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We have
> 5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help Elena.
> Small chance but is is still there :)
>
>  - alex
>
>
>
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Better quality images in Gnome Live?

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

I am looking for better quality in the tentative design images you print in
Gnome Live.
For example images at:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/Installer
and
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/Installer

and other modules are in so poor quality that you can't even read the text
on them.
Can I please have another source for them?

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Re: Better quality images in Gnome Live?

[alex diavatis]

Thank you Allan for the fast reply,
How can I check page history? I can do this only by browsing Recent
Changes? Search doesn't see to be much helpful.
I only see that page (
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/Installer) last edited by
McCann.
Should I contact him?

- alex

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Allan Day  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> alex diavatis  wrote:
> ...
> > I am looking for better quality in the tentative design images you print
> in
> > Gnome Live.
> ...
> > and other modules are in so poor quality that you can't even read the
> text
> > on them.
> > Can I please have another source for them?
>
> We don't produce hi-resolution mockups for every design - it would be
> too time consuming. What you see on those pages is everything we have.
>
> If you want a larger version of an image, you are best to contact the
> designer who made them (check the wiki page history).
>
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Who's Angela Avery?

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

Most of your mockups, comes with user name Angela.
Who is her? There is a story behind it?

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Interviews and Gnomers

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

We are getting some interviews from Gnome Devs and I was wondering if you
want to print them in Gnome.org as you had said.
We had Joaquim Rocha (that I didn't know he was a Gnomer), Elena Petrevska
and we are waiting from Tiffany Antopolski and Allan Day.

Do yo want me to wait till you print them these on Gnome org, and then I
will re-print in Wogue or you haven't a interview section yet?

Further more, can I somehow get faces thumbs of all regular contributor of
Gnome in last year (excluding the guys they do docs coz that would be
impossible) together with some info like their name, location, age(maybe)
and other?

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Re: Interviews and Gnomers

[alex diavatis]

Hello Dave,

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 07/06/2012 04:34 PM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>> Do yo want me to wait till you print them these on Gnome org, and then I
>> will re-print in Wogue
>>
>
> This sounds great!

How will this work? Should I send interviews to someone? I just hope you do
some fast ;)


>
>
>  Further more, can I somehow get faces thumbs of all regular contributor
>> of Gnome in last year (excluding the guys they do docs coz that would be
>> impossible) together with some info like their name, location,
>> age(maybe) and other?
>>
>
> You can get face thumbs for most prominent GNOME contributors from Planet
> GNOME. Other than that, I suggest that you email the individuals directly.
>
Ok, I see!

>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
> Thank you,
- alex

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Re: Interviews and Gnomers

[alex diavatis]

I just posted (private) Elena's interview at
http://worldofgnome.org/elena-petrevska-about-new-gnomeweb-interview/
p: elena-gnome

If you want to use it in Gnome before we publish it!

Thank you,
- alex

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

> Hello Dave,
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 07/06/2012 04:34 PM, alex diavatis wrote:
>>
>>> Do yo want me to wait till you print them these on Gnome org, and then I
>>> will re-print in Wogue
>>>
>>
>> This sounds great!
>
> How will this work? Should I send interviews to someone? I just hope you
> do some fast ;)
>
>
>>
>>
>>  Further more, can I somehow get faces thumbs of all regular contributor
>>> of Gnome in last year (excluding the guys they do docs coz that would be
>>> impossible) together with some info like their name, location,
>>> age(maybe) and other?
>>>
>>
>> You can get face thumbs for most prominent GNOME contributors from Planet
>> GNOME. Other than that, I suggest that you email the individuals directly.
>>
> Ok, I see!
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave.
>>
>> Thank you,
> - alex
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Re: Interviews and Gnomers

[alex diavatis]

Hello!

As I haven't an answer back yet, is it ok to publish Elena's interview and
you can collect it when you're ready on Gnome.org?
Do you want me to signed it as "This interview is made for Gnome
Foundation" or something?

- alex

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:

> On 07/07/2012 12:12 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>> I just posted (private) Elena's interview at
>> http://worldofgnome.org/elena-**petrevska-about-new-gnomeweb-**interview/<http://worldofgnome.org/elena-petrevska-about-new-gnomeweb-interview/>
>> p: elena-gnome
>>
>> If you want to use it in Gnome before we publish it!
>>
> Hi Alex!
> I found two small spelling errors in the article.
> Liveo.gnme.org -> live.gnome.org.
> Andreas Nillson - > Andreas Nilsson
> - Andreas
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Re: Interviews and Gnomers

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Allan Day can tell us who is an editor for GNOME News. I'll not apologise
> for not answering you quickly on a Friday evening!
>
Alright!

>
> Dave.
>
>
"alex diavatis"  wrote:
>
> >Hello!
> >
> >As I haven't an answer back yet, is it ok to publish Elena's interview
> >and
> >you can collect it when you're ready on Gnome.org?
> >Do you want me to signed it as "This interview is made for Gnome
> >Foundation" or something?
> >
> >- alex
> >
> >On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Andreas Nilsson 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/07/2012 12:12 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just posted (private) Elena's interview at
> >>>
> >http://worldofgnome.org/elena-**petrevska-about-new-gnomeweb-**interview/
> <http://worldofgnome.org/elena-petrevska-about-new-gnomeweb-interview/>
> >>> p: elena-gnome
> >>>
> >>> If you want to use it in Gnome before we publish it!
> >>>
> >> Hi Alex!
> >> I found two small spelling errors in the article.
> >> Liveo.gnme.org -> live.gnome.org.
> >> Andreas Nillson - > Andreas Nilsson
> >> - Andreas
> >>
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Re: Interviews and Gnomers

[alex diavatis]

Hello Shaun,

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Shaun McCance  wrote:

> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 17:34 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
> >
> > Further more, can I somehow get faces thumbs of all regular
> > contributor of Gnome in last year (excluding the guys they do docs coz
> > that would be
> > impossible)
>
> What's wrong with getting images for documentation contributors?
> There aren't that many.
>

I guess your right,

I ll write in the next days a Gnomers facewall webapp, that you can search
on it:
Searching (by names, by locations, by projects maybe) . Search will make
faces that don't match the criteria to pop-out from the wall,
and you will be able to arrange people on a Google Map also. Clicking on a
face will force a pop-up with personal details.

I ll store the data on json files so it could be easy to modify and then
you can use a database like mongo to store them in minutes.

I ll make a demo with 10 people and if you like it, you can feedback me
your details and include them, because is impossible to find info
for everyone. And by the way would be nice if you had such a page.
To emphasize the Community factor ;)


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Re: Interviews and Gnomers

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi Allan,
>
> I asked Alex whether he'd be prepared to be an author on GNOME News, so
> these are being submitted for publication on gnome.org/news - do you not
> think that's a good idea? I thought we were actively looking for authors
> for original material for the news site.
>
> I would be more than glad if I could help, but if you think is not right
choice (for any reason) is still fine!
And really thank Dave for the proposal!

- alex


> Thanks,
> Dave.
>
>
> On 07/09/2012 07:37 PM, Allan Day wrote:
>
>> Hey Alex,
>>
>> alex diavatis  wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> As I haven't an answer back yet, is it ok to publish Elena's interview
>>> and
>>> you can collect it when you're ready on Gnome.org?
>>> Do you want me to signed it as "This interview is made for Gnome
>>> Foundation"
>>> or something?
>>>
>>
>> My advice would be to publish when you're ready. If we want to
>> publicise the interview, we can post something on gnome.org with a
>> link to your site.
>>
>> You don't need to attribute to the GNOME Foundation or anything -
>> you've done the work; it's your interview.
>>
>> Thanks for your work!
>>
>> Allan
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>> Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.**com/ <http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/>
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votes and surveys for Gnome

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Hello,
Do you think opening a page (not you, we) with voting in Gnome features and
surveys would be a good idea or not?
I am telling because Allan said that Gnome listen to users feedback. And
that would be an good way to have a feedback.
>From the users we get, I guess we can collect easily more than 5 thousand
votes in every voting.

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Just another Gnome slogan

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

We're going to build (some people from a advertising agency) a promotional
(fan) video for Gnome.
We postponed it because I thought would be better if we make it for 3.6
cause of all these changes you're doing.

Anyway I uploaded a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lHyzfIZd-Y&;)
which in the end shows a slogan alongside with Gnome logo.

I used your "Simply Beautiful and I am Gnome" and I made it

be beautiful
be free
be gnome

If there is any issue with this let me know

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Re: Just another Gnome slogan

[alex diavatis]

Hello Sri,

About:
be beautiful
be free
be gnome

English is not my native so maybe "be gnome" sounds weird to you. Any
better suggestions?

Anyway, I talked again with my friends in ad agency and we decided to make
a "pre-release" video when 3.5.9 release is out and then show to you.
So you can tell us if there is something we are missing, or something you
do not like and then make the final.

Video is gonna be around 3min, so we hope to cover as many features as
possible.

- alex




On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:09 AM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We're going to build (some people from a advertising agency) a
>> promotional (fan) video for Gnome.
>> We postponed it because I thought would be better if we make it for 3.6
>> cause of all these changes you're doing.
>>
>>
> That's great!  What a neat idea.. we have a youtube GNOME channel that you
> could put it in if you like.
>
>
>> Anyway I uploaded a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lHyzfIZd-Y&;)
>> which in the end shows a slogan alongside with Gnome logo.
>>
>> I used your "Simply Beautiful and I am Gnome" and I made it
>>
>> be beautiful
>> be free
>> be gnome
>>
>>
> Hmm..  I don't know..  I'm not sort of on the fence on this one.  I don't
> hate it, but it also doesn't grab me either.
>
>
>> If there is any issue with this let me know
>>
>>
> You'll get delayed responses.  This week is GUADEC so everybody is in
> Spain right now.  (most of them)
>
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Selling Gnome Stuffs and copyrights

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

I have a friend that runs a store with clothes and accessories, and he told
be if we could make an online store and sell t-shirts (and other things)
with open source
logos on them.

As I have seen many stores to do this, my question is: Do you need any
"rights" to sell for example a t-shirt with Gnome logo on it?
Obviously, that applies for more logos from other organizations, but I am
staring from Gnome.

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Re: happy birthday GNOME website!

[alex diavatis]

+1 to Virtual Disks!
Can I get a d/l link to try them?

-alex

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:

> Hola Juanjo,
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Juanjo Marín 
> wrote:
> > Germán Poó has some old virtual machines. Maybe it would be good idea to
> offer a virtual machine to try it. He has GNOME 1.0.56, 1.2 and 1.4. They
> are based in Red Hat. Version 1.0.56  (qemu image) and 1.2 (linux 2.2,
> vmdk) are tricky to run. Version 1.4 (linux 2.4, vmdk) is easy to run, so I
> think is perfect for us. The user is gnome, password gnomehistory (same for
> root). If people like the idea, we can prepare other VMs of the other GNOME
> versions based on different distros. I think if we do this, we should use
> the OVF/OVA format.
> >
>
> If this is doable, great. But I fear that we will not be able to get
> the tricky ones on time.
> A funny thing to do would be to make this images available in GNOME
> FTP. As a "geeky toy" for people who want to try them. But even then,
> I would not go further back than 1.4.
>
> > As a side note, reading an old interview to Miguel de Icaza in GNOME 1.X
> days, I really like this reply:
> >
> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/00/04/03/2344211/miguel-de-icaza-tells-all
> >
> > "I understand that for a seasoned Unix user GNOME might not bring a new
> > paradigm for their way they work, but you have to think differently.
> > You have to think how many people have or will be able to run free
> > software on their desktops because it is easier to use.
> > We do plan on continuing improving GNOME, and catering to the needs of
> > the people who are just starting to use computers and just starting to
> > use GNU/Linux."
> >
>
> This is a great quote. Perhaps we can chase Miguel to update it.
>
> Action items? I can contact Chema and the GUADEC team about the
> history of GNOME video.
>
> Would you like to start writing the memories for each release? Like I
> said, I would only do a few releases, not all. See my previous
> proposal.
>
> Andreas perhaps might want to chime on what would be cool to gather
> for the design: screenshots? old icons? the video?
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Re: happy birthday GNOME website!

[alex diavatis]

Hello Juanjo!

That was really really creepy! I remembered when I was back in school and I
had that, with a Slackware 3.0 or something
Can you believe that I got emotional? Jesus!

Anyway, can I share that link?

Really thank you for it!
- alex


On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Juan Jose Marin Martinez <
juanj.ma...@juntadeandalucia.es> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:41:22 +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>  +1 to Virtual Disks!
>> Can I get a d/l link to try them?
>>
>
> You can try the GNOME 1.4 version:
>
> http://calcifer.org/tmp/vm/**gnome14.vmdk.xz<http://calcifer.org/tmp/vm/gnome14.vmdk.xz>
>
> don't forget it uses a linux 2.4 kernel
>
>
> The user is gnome, password gnomehistory (same for root)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Juanjo Marín wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > De: Brett Legree 
> >Para: Jeremy Bicha 
> >CC: Ryan Lortie ; Robert Ancell ;
> "marketing-list@gnome.org" ; Sebastien Bacher <
> seb...@ubuntu.com>; bo...@gnome.org
> >Enviado: Lunes 13 de agosto de 2012 23:08
> >Asunto: Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming
> >
> >
> >I'm quite sure you would be approved.
> >Your point about it having the fallback is good - Ubuntu GR perhaps.
>
> Hmm, I don't know what Ubuntu Greek folks may think about it  :-)
>

Yeap Ubuntu GR, feels like Greece country short code.
+1 to Ubuntu GNOME, even if i think just GNOME would be fine ;)


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>
>
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Re: happy birthday GNOME website!

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

Just a quick note: My provider hasn't refresh your DNS

happybirthdaygnome.org/com it is on 199.xxx.xxx.xxx for me
I guess many more providers will have the same issue

Cheers
- alex

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Karen Sandler  wrote:

> On Mon, August 13, 2012 8:56 pm, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
> > Hi Karen,
> >
> > considering that we have only about 48 hours, shall we delay the
> > celebration to "GNOME's month of anniversary" instead of the day? That
> > way we can get further input from Andreas and get the texts and
> > materials done.
>
> Well, it seems to me that there's been substantial work done by Juanjo and
> Andreas to get this going so it seems like we'll be able to get something
> up by Wednesday, but they could be the first of multiple materials we put
> up during the month if we want to!
>
> That way we could add the history of GNOME talk and other bits of content
> over the rest of the month...
>
> I definitely defer to Andreas and Juanjo about what they want to do though.
> karen
>
> > The keynote video would be cool, but GUADEC team (Juanjo pinged, I
> > pinged Chema) has not responded.
> >
> > Another way to frame this would be to link it to the anniversary but
> > not necessarily make it "because" of it.
> >
> > Diego
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Karen Sandler  wrote:
> >> On Sun, August 12, 2012 11:37 pm, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
> >>> Hi again,
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Juanjo Marín  >
> >>> wrote
>  Since version 2.0, we have release notes in
> 
>  http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/
> 
>  I think small memories will be enough (maybe in a table format) and
>  Diego can write special reports for the releases he mentioned (1.4,
>  2.0,
>  2.14, 3.0 and 3.4) in a mini tour in the life of the gnome project
> >>>
> >>> I would use Wikipedia's table as a starting point for a "timeline".
> >>> I would add special mentions to 5 or 4 releases (the ones I am
> >>> proposing to focus).
> >>>
>  2) [tentative] to provide VMs for the releases Diego want to focus
>  (1.4,
>  2.0, 2.14, 3.0 and 3.4)
>  GNOME 1.4, Red Hat (done by Germán)
>  GNOME 2.0 ?
>  GNOME 2.14 Ubuntu 6.04
>  GNOME 3.0 OpenSUSE 11.4
>  GNOME 3.4  Fedora 17
> >>>
> >>> Considering time, I would only use Germán's VM and say something like
> >>> "look how far we have come in all these years (as GNOME and as
> >>> GNU/Linux)"
> >>
> >> Yeah, we've only got unitil Wednesday! I think keeping it simple is
> >> going
> >> to be key!
> >>
> >>>
>  I think Bastien Nocera has a collection of old icons.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah. That would be cool. How would it work on the page however? A
> >>> small icon grid for fun? Andreas :)?
> >>
> >> Also, jrb sends me this link, which has a whole bunch of pictures and
> >> other materials that he, Federico and Dave used for their talk...
> >> https://github.com/federicomenaquintero/guadec-2012-keynote
> >>
> >> karen
> >>
> >
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Any chance to move your MLs to Google Groups?

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

I guess what I am asking will never make it. Think it as just another
opinion :)
Moving from MLs to Google Groups will get nothing but advantages.

*Sharing and Discovering*
Open Source is about sharing. Sharing isn't working good in hardly
discovered MLs.
I am also saying this because of the close source Google platform. Is
better to use a close platform and be more "open source" rather to
use an open platform and be less "open source".

Besides you also maintain some repos in Github, and I wish you will move
there.

*Searching and Discovering*
There are many how-tos and tips on your mailing lists about coding.
Searching in Google doesn't show them.

*Easy of Use*
Nothing to say here, you all have used Google Groups(GG) :)
One thing only is the good searching inside the GG and how easily you can
follow, respond,  star a subject etc etc

*Popularity / Get more people to Gnome*
You'll get definitely more responses, more people will involve

*Gnome Image*
You'll get a more modern face.

*Maintaining*
Easier for you

*Gnome and Google*
People use Google. Gnome use Google a lot. GOA, Documents (Google Drive
support now?), Calendar etc..
Tie your platform more with Google. I am not in favor of Google but I'm in
favor of the best option at the moment

*MLs aside with GG*
I am not asking you to remove the MLs. You can handle them as Gnome Live.
With closed registration but with open view.
Or another way..

Anyway, I might say stupid things!

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Re: Any chance to move your MLs to Google Groups?

[alex diavatis]

Hello Olav, Ahato, Tobias!

Olav:
I know that you cannot export your data from Google's services, and that
was always an issue with Google.
However I can't see how a service that hosts thousands open projects will
change.

Ahato: Yes, is about interface and about the Google Effect.

Tobias:
Please don't go to "satisfied" issue. If I wasn't I wouldn't be here. But
none will ever be satisfied completely with nothing :)
Many people that believe in free or open source use Google Services, or
Facebook or YouTube or whatever.
Gnome uses Twitter etc. Many free projects use Google Groups.

I believe that Open Source should be in harmony with proprietary. The goal
is to develop open source not to
disqualified proprietary.

As I said I might saying stupid things, I am okay with the answers :)
Consider this topic closed!

Thank you!
- alex



On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Tobias Mueller  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 02:51:27PM +0300, alex diavatis wrote:
> > Moving from MLs to Google Groups will get nothing but advantages.
> >
> Are you not satisfied with any particular aspect?
>
> > *Sharing and Discovering*
> > Open Source is about sharing. Sharing isn't working good in hardly
> > discovered MLs.
> [citation needed]
> Right now, I can download the mboxes, index, search and share all *I*
> want.
>
> > I am also saying this because of the close source Google platform. Is
> > better to use a close platform and be more "open source" rather to
> > use an open platform and be less "open source".
> >
> I disagree with you. Strongly. We not only want to be "open", but also
> "free". That is, to be in control over what happens to our
> infrastructure and who controls who is using it.
>
> Cheers,
>   Tobi
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Re: push back on negative articles

[alex diavatis]

Hello Sri, Brett,

Calling trash an article (doesn't matter if it is or isn't) will lead to
negative critics back to you.
Instead I propose to make each month (or every 2 or 3) a "positive" press
release about the future of gnome, what happened in the past month,
what decisions are made etc etc and always discuss
the controversial features and say yes we know there are problems, but etc
etc

I would like to see a press release like (
http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2012/08/07/gnome-os/) to coming signed by
the Gnome Team or
Gnome Foundation, or Gnome People instead just from a single developer.

That would be posted in all major blogs, and so people will get positive
feedback about Gnome. There are many other pros such as a better
communication
between users and foundation and that you show that you care. This is what
they do big game authors. It works great.

I really would like to see such thing from Gnome. Every Month, or Two :)

Thank you
- alex



On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Brett Legree wrote:

> Agreed - that article was complete and utter sensationalistic garbage.
>
> GNOME 3 doesn't seem to be "failing" on my desktop.
>
> -Brett
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna 
> wrote:
> > We really need to push back on negative articles like this one:
> >
> >
> http://www.datamation.com/open-source/gnome-seven-possible-recovery-strategies-3.html
> >
> > "conventional wisdom is that GNOME 3 has failed"
> >
> > seriously.  What the hell.
> >
> > sri
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Re: push back on negative articles

[alex diavatis]

Instead I propose to make each month - > Instead I propose YOU to make each
month :)

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:20 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

> Hello Sri, Brett,
>
> Calling trash an article (doesn't matter if it is or isn't) will lead to
> negative critics back to you.
> Instead I propose to make each month (or every 2 or 3) a "positive" press
> release about the future of gnome, what happened in the past month,
> what decisions are made etc etc and always discuss
> the controversial features and say yes we know there are problems, but etc
> etc
>
> I would like to see a press release like (
> http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2012/08/07/gnome-os/) to coming signed by
> the Gnome Team or
> Gnome Foundation, or Gnome People instead just from a single developer.
>
> That would be posted in all major blogs, and so people will get positive
> feedback about Gnome. There are many other pros such as a better
> communication
> between users and foundation and that you show that you care. This is what
> they do big game authors. It works great.
>
> I really would like to see such thing from Gnome. Every Month, or Two :)
>
> Thank you
> - alex
>
>

> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Brett Legree wrote:
>
>> Agreed - that article was complete and utter sensationalistic garbage.
>>
>> GNOME 3 doesn't seem to be "failing" on my desktop.
>>
>> -Brett
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna 
>> wrote:
>> > We really need to push back on negative articles like this one:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.datamation.com/open-source/gnome-seven-possible-recovery-strategies-3.html
>> >
>> > "conventional wisdom is that GNOME 3 has failed"
>> >
>> > seriously.  What the hell.
>> >
>> > sri
>> >
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Our first Gnome Char draft

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

For the people that don't know yet, we are trying to make a promotional fan
3d animation for Gnome.
I guess not all of you will approve a Gnome character, but it's a Gnome fan
club effort :)

I attached our first draft, which isn't completed yet, and we have a
cartoon like material and a metallic. We would like to know if you have
some ideas that we can use on it.

We have two scripts. The first one will be similar with what you have now
on your Gnome page with the guy (sorry I don't know his name)
that presents in video the features of Gnome. Our Gnome Char (nameless)
will be in a room and will use

1. Desktop for his work --and we zoom a video with office applications
2. Laptop --and we zoom emails etc
3. Touch screen and we zoom twitter, messaging etc

The second script (which is harder) will be a fully commercial that Gnome
Char will presents all the advantages of Gnome and open source,
and we'll make some scenes with millions of Gnome Chars similar to iRobot
movie -but in worse quality :)

Thank you

- alex

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Re: Our first Gnome Char draft

[alex diavatis]

Hello Sri!

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:21 AM, alex diavatis 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For the people that don't know yet, we are trying to make a promotional
>> fan 3d animation for Gnome.
>> I guess not all of you will approve a Gnome character, but it's a Gnome
>> fan club effort :)
>>
>>
> Hmm.. interesting.  I'm not sure I have formed an opinion on the mascot.
>
> My idea of a character probably wouldn't have involved using the GNOME
> logo and evolving it into a character.
>
> I would probably have added some friends, right now with just the whites
> of the eyes might be a little scary for little children. :-)
>

We'll add irides and we'll make 2-3 more drawings on the next days. These
mockups are made just to get the geometries.
I think Gnome logo rocks for character. It is asymmetric and genuine, and
foot can symbolize many things, it can be filthy or "kinky" etc!


>
>
>> I attached our first draft, which isn't completed yet, and we have a
>> cartoon like material and a metallic. We would like to know if you have
>> some ideas that we can use on it.
>>
>>
> See above comment about the eyes.
>
>
>> We have two scripts. The first one will be similar with what you have now
>> on your Gnome page with the guy (sorry I don't know his name)
>> that presents in video the features of Gnome. Our Gnome Char (nameless)
>> will be in a room and will use
>>
>> 1. Desktop for his work --and we zoom a video with office applications
>> 2. Laptop --and we zoom emails etc
>> 3. Touch screen and we zoom twitter, messaging etc
>>
>>
> Neat!
>
>
>> The second script (which is harder) will be a fully commercial that Gnome
>> Char will presents all the advantages of Gnome and open source,
>> and we'll make some scenes with millions of Gnome Chars similar to iRobot
>> movie -but in worse quality :)
>>
>>
> Cool, it sounds like a great effort, I would be very interested in seeing
> how this turns out. :)
>

I am also interested to see how this will turn out :)

- alex


>
> sri
>
>
>> Thank you
>>
>> - alex
>>
>> *Ps I couldn't attach the images on the ML, it asked from an moderator
>> approval so I uploaded them on
>> https://plus.google.com/u/1/112026213399155142823/posts/1cdMg8odtqk
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Re: Our first Gnome Char draft

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

The latest mockups
http://worldofgnome.org/a-promotional-video-for-gnome-with-goops-feedback-please
We'll leave it like that for few days to get some feedback and then we'll
make the pre-finals.
Get again some feedback, and make the finals to bind the animation.

Oh we will use the "regular" legs and arms.

Thank you
- alex

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:57 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

> Hello Sri!
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:21 AM, alex diavatis > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For the people that don't know yet, we are trying to make a promotional
>>> fan 3d animation for Gnome.
>>> I guess not all of you will approve a Gnome character, but it's a Gnome
>>> fan club effort :)
>>>
>>>
>> Hmm.. interesting.  I'm not sure I have formed an opinion on the mascot.
>>
>> My idea of a character probably wouldn't have involved using the GNOME
>> logo and evolving it into a character.
>>
>> I would probably have added some friends, right now with just the whites
>> of the eyes might be a little scary for little children. :-)
>>
>
> We'll add irides and we'll make 2-3 more drawings on the next days. These
> mockups are made just to get the geometries.
> I think Gnome logo rocks for character. It is asymmetric and genuine, and
> foot can symbolize many things, it can be filthy or "kinky" etc!
>
>
>>
>>
>>> I attached our first draft, which isn't completed yet, and we have a
>>> cartoon like material and a metallic. We would like to know if you have
>>> some ideas that we can use on it.
>>>
>>>
>> See above comment about the eyes.
>>
>>
>>> We have two scripts. The first one will be similar with what you have
>>> now on your Gnome page with the guy (sorry I don't know his name)
>>> that presents in video the features of Gnome. Our Gnome Char (nameless)
>>> will be in a room and will use
>>>
>>> 1. Desktop for his work --and we zoom a video with office applications
>>> 2. Laptop --and we zoom emails etc
>>> 3. Touch screen and we zoom twitter, messaging etc
>>>
>>>
>> Neat!
>>
>>
>>> The second script (which is harder) will be a fully commercial that
>>> Gnome Char will presents all the advantages of Gnome and open source,
>>> and we'll make some scenes with millions of Gnome Chars similar to
>>> iRobot movie -but in worse quality :)
>>>
>>>
>> Cool, it sounds like a great effort, I would be very interested in seeing
>> how this turns out. :)
>>
>
> I am also interested to see how this will turn out :)
>
> - alex
>
>
>>
>> sri
>>
>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> - alex
>>>
>>> *Ps I couldn't attach the images on the ML, it asked from an moderator
>>> approval so I uploaded them on
>>> https://plus.google.com/u/1/112026213399155142823/posts/1cdMg8odtqk
>>>
>>>
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Re: world of gnome..

[alex diavatis]

Hello!

We will be glad to help in any way we can! I don't know what are
the responsibilities of Marketing Team,
but if they involve writing in Gnome.org pages, I don't think it would be a
good idea. Our English ..hmm!
It would be embarrassing for you to have grammar mistakes in your pages :)



On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Debarshi Ray  wrote:

> > Why don't we propose them to join the marketing team and help with the
> > announces et all? maybe giving them a GNOME subdomain for best
> > visibility?
> >
> > They are doing an awesome job from what I see!
>
> For all I know, they are watching every email on this thread. :-)
>

And other threads also :)


>
> Cheers,
> Debarshi
>
> Thank you!
- alex


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Re: world of gnome..

[alex diavatis]

Hello Emily,

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Emily Gonyer  wrote:

> Alex, I would be happy to help proof-read and edit your posts for
> english grammar - for postings both on gnome.org or on your own site.
>

I personally would feel bad to have someone to check my posts, it would be
like a punishment for you!
Of course if you want to host some of our posts, it would be great for us
and is up to you if you have
the time and mood to correct them :)

>
> Emily
>

Thank you
- alex

>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, alex diavatis
>  wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > We will be glad to help in any way we can! I don't know what are the
> > responsibilities of Marketing Team,
> > but if they involve writing in Gnome.org pages, I don't think it would
> be a
> > good idea. Our English ..hmm!
> > It would be embarrassing for you to have grammar mistakes in your pages
> :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Debarshi Ray 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Why don't we propose them to join the marketing team and help with the
> >> > announces et all? maybe giving them a GNOME subdomain for best
> >> > visibility?
> >> >
> >> > They are doing an awesome job from what I see!
> >>
> >> For all I know, they are watching every email on this thread. :-)
> >
> >
> > And other threads also :)
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Debarshi
> >>
> > Thank you!
> > - alex
> >
> >>
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Re: world of gnome..

[alex diavatis]

Hello Ruiz,

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Alberto Ruiz  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> do not feel bad about it. We are an international community and our level
> of English varies from person to person, it was tough for me at the
> beginning too.
>
> We need to help each other and we WANT to help each other. And also, if
> you work closely with a proof reader, you will improve your writing skills,
> there's no other way to learn than writing a lot and having someone
> pointing out your mistakes :-)


I can give you access to WP to edit posts if you want. But wouldn't be
better if you were writing new topics?
There are many interesting things around Gnome (not technical stuffs)  you
can write for and share it with the rest people!

- alex


>
>
> 2012/10/15 alex diavatis 
>
>> Hello Emily,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote:
>>
>>> Alex, I would be happy to help proof-read and edit your posts for
>>> english grammar - for postings both on gnome.org or on your own site.
>>>
>>
>> I personally would feel bad to have someone to check my posts, it would
>> be like a punishment for you!
>> Of course if you want to host some of our posts, it would be great for us
>> and is up to you if you have
>> the time and mood to correct them :)
>>
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>
>> Thank you
>> - alex
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, alex diavatis
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Hello!
>>> >
>>> > We will be glad to help in any way we can! I don't know what are the
>>> > responsibilities of Marketing Team,
>>> > but if they involve writing in Gnome.org pages, I don't think it would
>>> be a
>>> > good idea. Our English ..hmm!
>>> > It would be embarrassing for you to have grammar mistakes in your
>>> pages :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Debarshi Ray 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Why don't we propose them to join the marketing team and help with
>>> the
>>> >> > announces et all? maybe giving them a GNOME subdomain for best
>>> >> > visibility?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > They are doing an awesome job from what I see!
>>> >>
>>> >> For all I know, they are watching every email on this thread. :-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > And other threads also :)
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Debarshi
>>> >>
>>> > Thank you!
>>> > - alex
>>> >
>>> >>
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>>>
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Re: world of gnome..

[alex diavatis]

Hello Matthias,

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Matthias Clasen
wrote:

> Yes, worldofgnome is fantastic in the amount of very positive GNOME
> posts they get out every day.
>
> Sometimes, it goes a little overboard though, when early research
> screenshots get blown out as the latest design, within hours of being
> added to the wiki [1]. Can we maybe come to some form of understanding
> about asking first before interpreting stuff as the latest and
> greatest design?
>

Sure, I will ask authors before I publish again early work.If this is Ok
for you. But I am trying to be careful, I always say this is an early
design,
and that's why I have the full links in Gnome live
(Design/Whiteboards/Selections). It's whiteboard, it is clear it is early
work.

Anyway, sorry!


>
> [1] http://worldofgnome.org/text-handling-under-gnome-os/


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Re: world of gnome..

[alex diavatis]

Hello Luc,

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Luc Pionchon wrote:

> Maybe you could have an article category "What's on the whiteboards
> today?", with a clear icon, so readers knows the information is a snapshot
> of a work in progress.


Consider it done, if other member also don't mind to keep printing your
very early work (which is available for everybody anyway, just hard to be
found). Personally I like to watch your futuristic designs even if I am not
into Gnome programming. It gives the perspective of the project, so
I basically publish what I want to see from other pages.


> And maybe, the direction of the article could be inviting readers to
> discuss pros and cons. (rather than promising a future plan)
>

I see your point. I don't mean to confuse people that a design will arrive
in Gnome for sure, or the next day, or as it is. Feedback is related to
popularity, I hope we get more readers and have more feedback, however
based on comments many people like your work and switching or willing to
switch back to Gnome (after the Ubuntu Unity thing).


>
> Just an idea.
>

Thank you
- alex

>
>
> On 18 October 2012 02:59, alex diavatis  wrote:
>
>> Hello Matthias,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Matthias Clasen <
>> matthias.cla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, worldofgnome is fantastic in the amount of very positive GNOME
>>> posts they get out every day.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, it goes a little overboard though, when early research
>>> screenshots get blown out as the latest design, within hours of being
>>> added to the wiki [1]. Can we maybe come to some form of understanding
>>> about asking first before interpreting stuff as the latest and
>>> greatest design?
>>>
>>
>> Sure, I will ask authors before I publish again early work.If this is Ok
>> for you. But I am trying to be careful, I always say this is an early
>> design,
>> and that's why I have the full links in Gnome live
>> (Design/Whiteboards/Selections). It's whiteboard, it is clear it is early
>> work.
>>
>> Anyway, sorry!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://worldofgnome.org/text-handling-under-gnome-os/
>>
>>
>> - alex
>>
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Re: world of gnome..

[alex diavatis]

Hello Oliver, Luc

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Oliver Propst wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM, alex diavatis
>  wrote:
> > Hello Luc,
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Luc Pionchon 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe you could have an article category "What's on the whiteboards
> >> today?", with a clear icon, so readers knows the information is a
> snapshot
> >> of a work in progress.
> I think this is an very important point because otherwise it
> could make GNOME designers more careful before posting
> a design to the wiki because they know that the design will
> be featured as "done" on a news site the next day. After all
> the wiki are a workspace (although public).
>

Obviously to refer the "Text Selection" was a mistake of me, as there
weren't any discussion in Design page. It would be nice
if you *always* had some initial notes in every page. Gnome gets a lot of
attention lately and I think that many people are
visiting your wikis and post about them.


>
> >> And maybe, the direction of the article could be inviting readers to
> >> discuss pros and cons. (rather than promising a future plan)
> >
> >
> > I see your point. I don't mean to confuse people that a design will
> arrive
> > in Gnome for sure, or the next day, or as it is.
> Also very important.
>

Maybe I consider what is obvious to me, it is obvious also to the others.
Saying that something is just an early design,
I mean "a design that won't arrive in Gnome for sure, or the next day, or
as it is".I ll try to be more cautious and
not making an "alpha" seems as "stable".

Thank you
- alex


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Gnome Stickers

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

There was someone here (I can't recall his name) that his was doing some
new stickers for Gnome 3.
Can I please have the .SVG's to print them and mail them to some  people?
(for free, not selling them)

Thank you

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Re: Gnome Stickers

[alex diavatis]

Hello Andreas,

I could use those but there isn't a large variety. Ubuntu has a nice
collection with logos [1], although there are quite "standardized".
This brochure [2] has a nice logo on the 1st black page (on right).

But I think I had seen some more Gnome 3 logos somewhere in Gnome Pages,
that I cannot find :(

[1] http://design.ubuntu.com/downloads?search=logo&submit=
[2] http://www.bagu.org/gnome/gnome-dev-world-brochure-v5.pdf

- alex

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:

> On 10/23/2012 10:54 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> There was someone here (I can't recall his name) that his was doing some
>> new stickers for Gnome 3.
>> Can I please have the .SVG's to print them and mail them to some  people?
>> (for free, not selling them)
>>
>>  I have done some GNOME stickers in the past and should have the
> originals around still.
> How did they look specifically?
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Re: Gnome Stickers

[alex diavatis]

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Daniel Galleguillos wrote:

>  El 23-10-12 14:24, alex diavatis escribió:
>
> Hello Andreas,
>
>  I could use those but there isn't a large variety. Ubuntu has a nice
> collection with logos [1], although there are quite "standardized".
> This brochure [2] has a nice logo on the 1st black page (on right).
>
>  But I think I had seen some more Gnome 3 logos somewhere in Gnome Pages,
> that I cannot find :(
>
>  [1] http://design.ubuntu.com/downloads?search=logo&submit=
> [2] http://www.bagu.org/gnome/gnome-dev-world-brochure-v5.pdf
>
>  - alex
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
>>  On 10/23/2012 10:54 AM, alex diavatis wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> There was someone here (I can't recall his name) that his was doing some
>>> new stickers for Gnome 3.
>>> Can I please have the .SVG's to print them and mail them to some
>>>  people? (for free, not selling them)
>>>
>>>   I have done some GNOME stickers in the past and should have the
>> originals around still.
>> How did they look specifically?
>> - Andreas
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>
>
>  Alex
> Here you can find a .SVG Stickers ready to print or modify to GNOME3.
> https://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/Stickers
>
> I hope to help you
>

Thank you very much, that should do. If you find or make more stickers,
please add then on Gnome Live, I would see them on there!

- alex


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Re: community managers

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like:

This week in Gnome...[ie new features]
We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API]
In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop]
In Gnome 3.. [tech news]

It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can rotate
This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on.

YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you
will have a more "personal"
connection with people.

- alex

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy  wrote:

>
> Hello,
> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team
> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think
> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the community
> team.
>
> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public
> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have some
> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team.
>
> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and
> externally.
> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g: "theming
> will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all "high profile"
> GNOME contributors agree on this?
>
> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need to
> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own modules
> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and
> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, make
> people inside the community get along, reduce friction.
>
> As a community team another mission would be working on communication
> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, arrogant
> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication
> efforts have to promoted and praised.
>
> Just my 2 cents
> Cheers
> Seif
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>>
>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because
>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or
>>> perceived actions.  For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet again
>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of maintenance
>>> and sustainability.
>>>
>>
>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision,
>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of the
>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision has
>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not got
>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For
>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that
>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME
>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community (and
>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors -
>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers).
>
>
>>  After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to
>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their
>>> application.
>>>
>>
>> I disagree with your analogy.
>
>
>>  I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers.  10 volunteers who start out as
>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing other
>>> things within the project.
>>>
>>> I currently have four as of right now.  Need to recruit six more!
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the rot.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave.
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Re: community managers

[alex diavatis]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Why don't you try an YouTube channel. A weekly 5' show kinda like:
>
> This week in Gnome...[ie new features]
> We cannot support this because .. [ie theming API]
> In Gnome 3.. [discuss/explain some features and how to use desktop]
> In Gnome 3.. [tech news]
>
> It will take only two hours for each person to do this, and you can rotate
> This week, Allan, next week Seif, week after next Sri and so on.
>
> YouTube is by far the most popular media to promote a product, plus you
> will have a more "personal"
> connection with people.
>

Oops that was going to previous thread [reddit IAMA GNOME
developer/designer] sooorry :)
- alex

>
> - alex
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Seif Lotfy  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> First I love the idea of a community team. KDE already has such a team
>> with a good mission (http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php).I think
>> studying their history and experience would be beneficial to the community
>> team.
>>
>> After discussing this Lydia from KDE, it looks more like a "Public
>> Relations" team more than a "Community Management" team. Both do have some
>> common tasks. I think a Community team should encompass a PR team.
>>
>> Agreed. We have a problem communicating our vision internally and
>> externally.
>> Internally it seems like not all of us are on the same page, e.g:
>> "theming will damage our brand". Or systemd dependencies etc. Do all "high
>> profile" GNOME contributors agree on this?
>>
>> Before communicating to the outside world that "XYZ" is a fact we need to
>> at least agree on it internally. Taking the liberties with ones own modules
>> without general consensus inside the community leads to friction and
>> arguments. This is something that a community team should work on, make
>> people inside the community get along, reduce friction.
>>
>> As a community team another mission would be working on communication
>> between devs, on mailing lists and bugs. Damage caused by snarky, arrogant
>> or dismissive remarks should be controlled and positive communication
>> efforts have to promoted and praised.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents
>> Cheers
>> Seif
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dave Neary  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2012 06:53 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a project, we are having trouble communicating our vision because
>>>> everything gets lost in a sea of vitriol due to past actions or
>>>> perceived actions.  For instance, removing fallback is seen as yet again
>>>> the GNOME project is removing a feature instead of an act of maintenance
>>>> and sustainability.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision,
>>> because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of the
>>> project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision has
>>> either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not got
>>> clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For
>>> instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that
>>> Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME
>>> project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community (and
>>> I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors -
>>> developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers).
>>
>>
>>>  After all, GNOME design doesn't have any authority but is able to
>>>> convince maintainers that doing their approach is best for their
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree with your analogy.
>>
>>
>>>  I'm envisioning a team of 10 volunteers.  10 volunteers who start out as
>>>> community managers and then hopefully will be interested in doing other
>>>> things within the project.
>>>>
>>>> I currently have four as of right now.  Need to recruit six more!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like a plan, and we certainly need to do something to stop the
>>> rot.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave.
>>>
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Re: Statistics and how do we serve our website users

[alex diavatis]

Hello Andreas,

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:

> On 11/14/2012 03:54 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> It's been almost a full year since we started running statistics on
>> gnome.org with Piwik.
>> I thought it would be good to look at these numbers and see if there is
>> anything we can do to improve.
>>
> Oh, and do let me know if there is anything specific, like search engine
> stats, visits over certain time periods, screen sizes or anything else that
> anyone is particularly interested in.


I was wondering if you could make anonymous account for Piwik, like we have
[1]. As part of Gnome "openness" and sharing information. Of course you can
hide any module you think it exposes private information.

[1] http://wogue.org/piwik/

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Re: world of gnome feedback

[alex diavatis]

Hello!

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> You've been doing a tremendous job with WoG!  We were recently talking
> about WoG and one thing that we felt that would improve the site
> tremendously is having some editors to help edit your articles.  It might
> slow down your publishing a bit, but would you mind if some of us help edit
> your articles?
>

90% of the English grammar error comes because I am always in rush :(
I certainly can give you WP accounts to edit posts before (which I think it
won't work) or after (better choice)
we publish them.

But the best case scenario is if you (or anyone else) actually could post.
Because we run ads and it wouldn't feel very nice if someone was writing to
us and we are getting profits (which is another story - I was actually
losing money :) - ),we are going to remove them very soon.


>
> Can some of us help you out here?  It'll help improve the site I think.
> We have some feedback on the WoG website as well that perhaps we could help
> make the site look a little better visually.
>

I've spend more than 30h trying to make Disqus work with Ajax and it was
impossible at least since the last time I tried (~3months ago). There were
some known bugs and maybe Disqus team have solved them. If I can make that
work, I could make a really nice page. When I get some time I will try to
improve some things, like timeline and categories.

If you are interested to help in graphics, it would be great as I can't do
that :(


>
> I can probably help with editing, and I think some the others in marketing
> can help as well.
>
> Andreas - did you say you could help out with any changes to the site
> visually?
>
> To re-iterate, it's your site and we're happy you're doing all this.  You
> are free of course to turn down our help, we just want to help out and make
> the site be as successful as possible as it is in our interest.
>

If you could post new articles that could be the greatest help! By the way
you already helping, for example Jasper, Jakub, Allan, Giovanni and others
always answer if I have some questions ..and of course Andrea (Veri) who
moved and maintain our page to a cheaper server! Much appreciated!

>
> sri
>

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Congratulations to Andrea Veri

[alex diavatis]

Hello all,

Sorry for spamming a bit the Marketing List. I just want to applause GNOME
decision
to hire Andrea Veri as SysAdmin!

Andrea is obviously very good at his job, but he is also a very nice guy!
So I am double happy
that such people are part of the GNOME Foundation!

Congratulations Andrea and good luck ..next ;)
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A new online service, request GNOME as part of the name

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

I made this webpage ilovegnome.org. This is like a Theme Center for GNOME
but I will add some more services here.

Right now the only thing it works is GTK Themes (I have reset db, so site
is pretty empty). Themes currently are installed
with an info script (wget && unzip && rm zip) but I will add an event
machine similar to extensions.gnome.org when I manage
to make a proper sync ;)

If you have any issue with the domain name, please let me know.
Thank you

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Re: 3.8 Release Planning

[alex diavatis]

Hello,

If there is something specific I can help with, please let me know!

- alex

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Vincent Untz  wrote:

> Le jeudi 28 février 2013, à 13:23 -0500, Karen Sandler a écrit :
> > On Thu, February 28, 2013 1:17 pm, Allan Day wrote:
> > > Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:
> > >> We need some press contacts.  I know that Vincent has volunteered to
> be
> > >> our
> > >> media guy.  Vincent, can you handle media questions?
> > >
> > > We have a list of contacts already. We just needs someone send out
> > > emails and field questions.
> >
> > I've got the list, and would be happy to send out the emails. It would be
> > great to have a small group ready to field questions since sometimes
> > there's a tight timetable for turnaround. I'd be happy to do it, and
> > Vincent would be great too if he's got the time. Who else should we ask?
>
> I can certainly help and dedicate some time to this, but I think we need
> more people: I might not have the bandwidth to handle everything, and I
> feel it's better for the project to have more than one visible face for
> media stuff.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Vincent
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Re: 3.8 Release Planning

[alex diavatis]

Hello Sri!

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

> Sure, Alex that would be great.  You actually have a pretty good grasp of
> what's going on as well.  I'm somewhat amazed at how well you monitor all
> the bits.
>
> Perhaps we could do some interviews or something at your site?  You're
> doing a good job focusing on some of release aspects too.
> sri
>

You are free to do whatever you want in our blog. You can have an admin
account. But I was wondering if you need some help in release notes, like
screenshots, double check of your work, uploading.. idk how it works, but
obviously I can't write English :)

Also we are making a promo-video for 3.8 and we'll have a demo soon. We had
to wait for all things to arrive first.
So if there is something in particular you need help, please ask!

- alex


>

> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, alex diavatis  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> If there is something specific I can help with, please let me know!
>>
>> - alex
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Vincent Untz  wrote:
>>
>>> Le jeudi 28 février 2013, à 13:23 -0500, Karen Sandler a écrit :
>>> > On Thu, February 28, 2013 1:17 pm, Allan Day wrote:
>>> > > Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:
>>> > >> We need some press contacts.  I know that Vincent has volunteered
>>> to be
>>> > >> our
>>> > >> media guy.  Vincent, can you handle media questions?
>>> > >
>>> > > We have a list of contacts already. We just needs someone send out
>>> > > emails and field questions.
>>> >
>>> > I've got the list, and would be happy to send out the emails. It would
>>> be
>>> > great to have a small group ready to field questions since sometimes
>>> > there's a tight timetable for turnaround. I'd be happy to do it, and
>>> > Vincent would be great too if he's got the time. Who else should we
>>> ask?
>>>
>>> I can certainly help and dedicate some time to this, but I think we need
>>> more people: I might not have the bandwidth to handle everything, and I
>>> feel it's better for the project to have more than one visible face for
>>> media stuff.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
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Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?

[alex diavatis]

Hello all and hello Stallman,

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Richard Stallman  wrote:

> If it is going to be sold via Amazon, GNOME might want to look into
> the Amazon non-profit affiliates program.
>
> Please don't encourage anyone to buy from Amazon.  See
> stallman.org/amazon.html for the many bad things that Amazon does --
> to independent book stores, publishers, authors, its workers,
> and its customers.
>

I was wondering if you have to encouraging anyone to buy a book about GNOME
from anywhere, and not just Amazon.
There are so many people that work without a profit, why you should promote
something "sell-able" only?

I was hopping GNOME to have its own free book. We are in 2013, everything
is online for free (at least in Free Software)
and everything changes so fast, which a book will become obsolete in around
1 month.

No need to mention that many people don't have money to buy it. Should we
pay for knowledge?

Nothing offensive to book author, just a thought.

- alex



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Re: GNOME 3.8 Release Notes

[alex diavatis]

Hello Allan,

I think you're missing Notifications System.

- Task Switching
- Apps Launching
- Notifications

Is something that you can't miss from any release notes. There are changes
in all these three.
For Example

1. Task Switching - Easier recognize apps by size (instead of Windows View)
2. Apps Launching - Launch multiple Apps (by holding Ctrl)
3. Notifications - Super+N to directly respond, new Message Tray behavior,
new Notifications design inside Overview.

Even if they weren't major changes in these three, I think you might want
to refer them in every release notes of any OS.

- alex

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Allan Day  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've completed the first draft of the release notes [1] (albeit
> without screenshots). Please take a look and let me know if you spot
> anything that can be improved.
>
> Allan
>
> [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/tree/?h=gnome-3-8
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Re: Need some help to find information for a round table at conference

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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) <
eiosifi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Gnomies,
>
> Next weeked, we have a FOSS Communities conference in Greece.
>
Where's that?


> So far I'll have a booth and a presentation (it's the same that Vincent
> did at FOSDEM).
>
> I was asked to participate at a round table discussion with other major
> projects.
> The subject will be:
>
> 1. Short description of the community and the projects that the local
> community does.
> 2. How easy it's for someone to contribute at a project and what he/she
> needs to know (focus on Gnome).
>
> I ask for help for the second one.
> I don't have time to search since I organize the logistics of openSUSE
> booth and I'm alone :-(
>
> Thanks for help.
> Stathis
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Re: Need some help to find information for a round table at conference

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Hey Stathis!

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) <
eiosifi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Στις 13/04/2013 09:02 μμ, ο/η alex diavatis έγραψε:
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) <
>> eiosifi...@gmail.com <mailto:eiosifi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Gnomies,
>>
>> Next weeked, we have a FOSS Communities conference in Greece.
>>
>> Where's that?
>>
> Athens. Harokopion University.
>

Some more info please?
Time, exact date, a link?

Thanks!


>
>  So far I'll have a booth and a presentation (it's the same that
>> Vincent did at FOSDEM).
>>
>> I was asked to participate at a round table discussion with other
>> major projects.
>> The subject will be:
>>
>> 1. Short description of the community and the projects that the
>> local community does.
>> 2. How easy it's for someone to contribute at a project and what
>> he/she needs to know (focus on Gnome).
>>
>> I ask for help for the second one.
>> I don't have time to search since I organize the logistics of
>> openSUSE booth and I'm alone :-(
>>
>> Thanks for help.
>> Stathis
>>
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Re: marketing bof?

[alex diavatis]

Hello Sri,

For me is totally impossible to make it. I need to deliver a project by Aug
15, testing it for 3 weeks and launch it in mid Sept.
Deadlines are quite strict on this :(

I hope you will have videos of speeches!


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

> When are we doing teh marketing bof again?  I seem to have forgotten.
> Also, Alex are you (or Bill) planning on coming to GUADEC?
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