RE: MD: headbanger amps

1999-12-03 Thread Tony Antoniou


For more volume in your ears. That's why they're called headbanger amps  ...
normally associated with loud rock stuff. 3#-)

Adios,
LarZ

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Subject:MD: headbanger amps


Why would you want a headbanger amp for? I hear you can buy these
commercially, but why would you want louder headphones? Or would you use it
with speakers on a portable md player? Do you use this to plug your sources
into and plug the output into the md recorder's input?




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Re: MD: Why Sharp ATRAC sucks (a review)

1999-12-03 Thread Ralph Smeets


I have to agree with Rick.

I've got a Sharp MS702 porti and a Sony MDS-S38 deck. Both have an ATRAC of
the same generation. Sharps is ATRAC 5. and Sonys is 4.0. 

I can't hear the differences between the two for digital recordings. Neither
can anyone of my colegeas at work Like I posted on another treath, MD is
closest to CD audio of all portable mediums (Excluding DAT... But DAT is not
that portable since it uses the Helican Scan mechanism for recording. Ie, a 
mechanism simular to a VCR).

I think if we all search very well, we could come up with some sounds that
will sound awfull after recrording on a Sharp. While the same piece of music
sounds okay on a Sony. But I thinks it compares also the otherway around. I
bet you can find a piece of music that isn't handled very well by Sony
ATRAC buy is by Sharps.

As it comes to decks, I really like the Sonys. Why? There a lot of tools
available that will control the deck using IR. Thus making titling a breeze.

For porties? I favourise the slot-in mechanism over the clam-shell. This
favourises Sharp off-course. I don't know why I favourise the slot-in mechanism,
but I feel like it's more 'solid'. Opinions may vary...

Cheers,
Ralph - returning to work...

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 Hi Jake,
 
 There was only one case I heard of where a person could reliably tell
 whether the recording was from a Sharp or Sony ATRAC, and
 unfortunately we never substantiated that with outside experimenters.
 
 If the differences are in general as strong as you suggest, I think
 others would have picked them up by now too. In any case, would it be
 possible for you to post to a web page some short, 44.1khz, 16 bit PCM
 (i.e. CD audio) segments of recordings made with both the Sharp and
 Sony that clearly exhibit the differences so that we can all listen to
 them side by side?
 
 Thanks,
 Rick
 
 Eric Woudenberg wrote:
 
  Thanks for the long article. It's well written and I like it, except
  for one thing: I think your MD-MS722 was defective. The differences
  between modern ATRAC encoders from the various makers are subtle,
  really. If you have a situation where the MD recording sounds like a
  bad 128kbps MP3, something is wrong. My suggestion: repeat the
  experiment with another Sharp unit (the Sharp MT83x, MT82x and MS72x
  all have Sharp ATRAC 6, the MS70x is Sharp ATRAC 5).
 
 Hmm, I don't know if I can do that.  I bought it from minidisco.com and
 they only have a 7 day return policy.  I don't want to claim it's
 defective and then look like a fool if my theory about Sharp ATRAC being
 a lousy encoder is right.  Maybe I can ask them if they can send me a
 loaner unit to verify my suspicion?  With the reliability of modern
 electronics, I can't imagine anything being defective in such a subtle
 way, though.. Then again, with all the UTOC errors people have been
 complaining about with Sharps, who knows?
 
 Or maybe their ATRAC really isn't that great..  After all, it's subtle
 enough that maybe nobody noticed.  I haven't seen anyone say anything
 other than "they both sound the same to me, but I don't have very good
 hearing", or even worse, "Sharp's at version 6 and Sony's at version 4.5
 so Sharp must be better!"  Most importantly, I haven't seen anyone doing
 serious double-blind tests between Sharp ATRAC and anything else.
 
 What if Sharp knows their encoder is no good but they see people are
 still buying it?  How many people can tell a bad 128kbps MP3 from the
 original other than musicians with trained ears?  For most people, the
 quality loss is apparent at a subliminal level.. you might think that
 128kbps MP3 sounds ok, but try playing low bitrate MP3's for 8 hours in
 a row and then putting in an original CD, and the improvement is
 stunning!  Maybe that's the case here.
 
  I'm forwarding this to the MD mailing list in case others would like
  to comment.
 
 Oops, I already forwarded it to the MD mailing list after I sent you a
 copy.. Oh well..
 
 -Jake
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Re: MD: headbanger amps

1999-12-03 Thread Ralph Smeets


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 Why would you want a headbanger amp for? I hear you can buy these
 commercially, but why would you want louder headphones? Or would you use it
 with speakers on a portable md player? Do you use this to plug your sources
 into and plug the output into the md recorder's input?

I would plug it where no other plug has been plugged before.

Cheers,
Ralph - PlugTrek The plug that plugs where no plug has plugged before...

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Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable

1999-12-03 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


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More like, "so unlikely as not to be worth considering at this time," which 
does not mean "impossible".

| At any rate, I disagree.

Disagree all you want, but nobody has said anything about reducing the DVD
form factor.  So until a big name like Pioneer says otherwise, I would not
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Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable

1999-12-03 Thread Kade Hansson


At 10:39 PM 12/2/99 -0500, you wrote:

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* Kade Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Thu, 02 Dec 1999
| Isn't that an oxymoron? Isn't "impossibility" a synonym.

More like, "so unlikely as not to be worth considering at this time," which 
does not mean "impossible".

But that ain't what you said. You said "non-existant possibility" =
"absence of possibility". "Unlikely" means "very little possibility", not
"absence of possibility".

| At any rate, I disagree.

Disagree all you want, but nobody has said anything about reducing the DVD
form factor.  So until a big name like Pioneer says otherwise, I would not
hold my breath were I you.

There is a significant difference between improbable and impossible. It is
possible to make 8cm DVDs, and it is possible to have players which play
them (indeed, many already could). Heard of DVD-1 to DVD-4? Theoretical
maybe, but certainly practically possible.

I have no doubt that 8cm DVDs will be made (if they haven't already). I do
have a doubt they will be anything more than a novelty.

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RE: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.

1999-12-03 Thread brent harding



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Any decks with multiple analog inputs? That way I can record from all the
sources I need without unhooking or having some tracks weaker than others,
wouldn't really want some tracks really loud and some quiet, so I'd need
the other inputs so I'd never have to unhook sources.
At 01:05 AM 12/2/99 -0500, you wrote:

Kevin,

Minidisco has the Sharp MDR3 deck with 3 CD trays and one minidisk for $239,
and the Sony MXDD3 which has 4x dubbing for $359. I don't think either has a
ps/2 port, but I don't think you are going to find one in your price range.

-- Martin

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 Hi, I'm looking for a deck that does CD-MD (nessicary) , 2x dub (not =
 nessicary but would prefer it), PS/2 port for tilting (NESSICARY!), and =
 any extra features would be great. I would perfer Sony, but if any other =
 brand I wouldn't mind. Price range 200-300$. Thanks for your time.

 -Kevin


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MD: MD Units For Sale: JVC XM-R70, Sony MZ-R55, JVC XM-D1

1999-12-03 Thread Rodney Peterson


Well, I have four minidisc units right now (three, since my Sony
MDS-JA20ES just bit the dust minutes ago. It will not turn on-and
there's an important disc inside. At least it has a five year warranty.
I'll call Sony in the morning and arrange for a pickup.) Meantime, I'm
thinking of buying an MZ-R90 so I'll probably try to sell what I have as
follows:

JVC-XMR70 This one is BRAND NEW, used a couple of hours, never recorded
on, all the stuff that came with it is brand new as well. This was an
impulse buy and I don't like the fact it has no line out. But if you
want it, I'll sell it for what I paid: $ 250. (Actually, I paid $ 225
plus California Sales Tax and shipping would put it at $ 250 or a little
over, so I'm not making anything.)

JVC-XMD1 Hardly ever used, this one I use mainly as a clock. I like the
unit, but if you want one of these, make an offer and I'll let you know
if I want to accept it. See the MD page for this units details. On the
negative side, this is an ATRAC 1 recorder. On the plus side, it is very
unique and hard to find, especially in mint conditiion. If you've been
looking for one of these, here it is. Unit and all accessories are in
mint condition. This is pretty much an MD collectors item, not a state
of the art portable recorder. In fact, it's not really a portable but a
portable/deck hybird about twice the size of the MZ-1

Sony MZR55 Silver, used often. In excellent condition, remote in good
condition with a few suface scratces. Sometimes has a problem accepting
certain MD's. If this happens (disc will spin but not play) reinsert the
disc and it will work. Extra battery included. $ 225

I'm also selling a Sony TRV 900 Mini DV Camcorder. 3 CCD, excellent
condtion and a number of accessories.

If you live in Southern California, I have two televisions for sale as
well. One is a 40 inch widescreen Toshiba I bought recently, the other a
35 inch Inteq. I've decided I want the 56 inch Panasonic widescreen HDTV
instead and may pick up the Pioneer Portable DVD Player as well. Please
E-Mail me if interested in the MD items or if you have any questions
about the non MD items. Thanks!

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MD: Why Sharp ATRAC sucks (a review)

1999-12-03 Thread Jake Hamby


Hi all,

This is a repost of a USENET post I just submitted to alt.audio.minidisc.  I
hope this doesn't break the rules of the FAQ by sounding "argumentative",
but this is my attempt to be as objective as possible describing my personal
experiences with both the Sharp and Sony MD recorders, and specifically
their different implementations of ATRAC compression.  Comments, criticisms,
flames (ok, not flames!) welcome..

As a new MD owner, I searched all over the Web and USENET for any
information on differences in quality between the different ATRAC versions.
Sure, on minidisc.org, you can read about the improvements in Sony's ATRAC
implementation from version to version, and how well Sony MD compares to
128kbps Xing-encoded MP3 (please!), but I couldn't find *any* mention of how
well Sharp's encoder stacks up, other than vague comparisons like this one
(from http://members.tripod.com/~Civil_Disobedient/r50vs701.html)

"The result is that the Sharp and Sony units make recordings with slightly
different sound characteristics, but which one people prefer is more a
matter of personal taste than one necessarily being "better". I'm
unfortunately not in any way equipped to test the differences, and until
someone does, it's fairly safe to judge them the same and move on to
something that actually makes an audible difference."

So, assuming that one ATRAC's as good as another, I ordered the MP3 combo
kit, including the Sharp MD-MS722, from minidisco.com.  The new sound card
with optical out worked as advertised, but I quickly discovered that my Aiwa
bookshelf stereo's digital out worked even better (no manually splitting up
tracks, and since I own the original CD's to the music I want to listen to,
I wouldn't think about copying from an MP3 unless I had to).

Everything seemed okay at first.  The Sharp had a nasty tendency to cut off
the first second of each track when I used the Aiwa's program play feature,
so that sucked, but manually recording a track at a time (or the entire CD)
worked around that bug.  But after a few days of listening to my tunes, I
came to the unhappy conclusion that something wasn't quite right.  Some of
my music started giving me the impression of listening to a low-bitrate MP3:
some people may be happy with 128kbps MP3's, but believe me they're not CD
quality!

After conducting some painstaking listening tests a few months ago, I
discovered that 192kbps, or even 256kbps is necessary to make a "CD quality
MP3", or else one starts to hear a certain "fuzziness" or "shrouding" about
the music..  Cymbals seem sizzly, and the natural ambience of the room
disappears.  Maybe this is what audiophiles mean when they talk about
digital lacking "warmth", but what we're really talking about are
compression artifacts!  When you're throwing away 80% (or in the case of
128kbps, 90%) of the music information, you better throw away the *right*
80%, and that's why making a good encoder is so very difficult (by
comparison, the decoder's job is much easier, as it just has to play back
the bits that are left).  This is especially apparent with acoustic
instruments like guitar and cymbals (which can have very complicated upper
harmonics that the brain has an entire listening history to compare to), and
with techno music, which often has very pronounced percussion and strange
electronic effects which can be very difficult to encode (try encoding the
first 30 seconds of "Kalifornia" by Fat Boy Slim with *any* MP3 or MD
encoder, listen to the result with some good headphones, and you'll hear
what I mean!).

Since I knew that MD was using 292kbps, I assumed it wouldn't have any
problems with making me happy.. it certainly shouldn't sound as bad as
128kbps Xing-encoded MP3's, but here it was.  I ended up pressing a CD-R of
the original 48 test tracks I'd used to compare MP3 encoders (all culled
from the first 30-60 seconds of various songs I suspected would be difficult
to encode), and copying them to MD using the Sharp.  Sure enough, quick A-B
testing confirmed some serious quality problems!  Acoustic guitars sounded
slightly muffled and synthesized..  Pan flutes, pianos, and drums suffered a
similar fate.  There was a most noticeable loss of higher harmonics, leading
a fuzziness to everything, most unpleasant.  Crisp attacks, such as cymbal
crashes were rendered hollow, to the point of sounding more like a bad
Commodore 64 white noise synthesized "drum" than the real thing.  It sounded
so bad I was beginning to regret my entire MD investment (and after I bought
the Sharp 722, I had splurged on an entire 40-pack of blank MD's, AND the
JVC MD/CD car unit.. yep I went a little crazy!).

My only hope was to put faith in Sony, hoping that their ATRAC
implementation wouldn't let me down (after all, all of the head-to-head DAT
vs. MD tests by musicians that I'd read online had used Sony, not Sharp).  I
ordered the MXD-D3:  4x copying from CD to MD is a *sweet* feature, but only
if the quality is decent.  However, the 

Re: MD: Optical Cables.. mini-in-a-toslink out?

1999-12-03 Thread jds



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Neither the CD player or the R90 are at fault. The cable is at fault.
simple solution: buy a toslink to mini cable.  A sony branded cable will
run around 30-40 dollars US, or an off brand will run as cheap as 8 bucks.

Recton, sells "adaptors" with some of their cables. That allow you to convert
ends between mini and toslink.  If you just try to hold it there, you'll likely
lose too much signaling along with outside light leaking in.

don't send the R90 back, you'll kick yourself if you do...

-Jeffrey

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999,   nick   wrote:

 
 hey..
 
 I just bought an R90 from sawada denki, and there's an issue with the 
 optical cable... it came with a mini/mini and i've only got a toslink 
 optical out on my cd changer. If i hold the miniplug in the toslink out of 
 the cd player, and red light comes out the other end of the cord.. and then 
 that goes into the r90, should the r90 pick up the signal or isnt there 
 enough light red light for it to detect?
 
 the r90 may be at fault, the cd player may be at fault, or it just might not 
 work when you hold a mini in a toslink out.. either way, i've got about 10 
 days left to email sawada if its the R90...
 
 thanks
 nick
 
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MD: Response to....Why would you want a HEADBANGER

1999-12-03 Thread Jeff Medin


Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 20:49:44 -0600
From: brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MD: headbanger amps

Why would you want a headbanger amp for? I hear you can buy these
commercially, but why would you want louder headphones? Or would you use
it
with speakers on a portable md player? Do you use this to plug your
sources
into and plug the output into the md recorder's input?

--

One of the reasons would be the use of HIGH QUALITY HEADPHONES.  These
phones have much higher impedance's (100 ohms - 600 Ohms) than the
"EARBUDS" that most folks are used to.  The either just plain wont work,
or will work at VERY LOW volume levels.

For some neat info on this check out these two sites

"http://www.headwize.com"  The HEADWIZE home page, and also check out
what kinds of "real headphones" are available at "http://headphone.com"
, the Headroom Home page.

Try a listen and I'll bet you'll never wear "buds" again..!
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Re: MD: the Internet Minidisc by Sharp

1999-12-03 Thread David Katzmaier


The connection is analog, and it does depend on the synchro-start mechanism.

Sony's upcoming MP3  MD solution is better in my opinion. It's a
paralell/USB to optical connection -- with some sort of software -- that
will be out very early 2000 in the US. Sony originally said the price would
be $49.99, but last time I spoke to them they reatracted that, so I'm not
sure exactly what the price will be. Unless it's significantly higher, I'm
gettin' one.

Does anybody else (Japan?...) know anything about this? What other
inexpensive digital options are there that don't involve buying a new sound
card?

-- Katz


I read somewhere that the connection is analog, and that you must
leave the recorder in SYNCHRO-START RECORD mode. This implies that it
will work with any recorder that has analog synchro-start capability
(i.e. not Sonys).
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Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #443

1999-12-03 Thread Matt Vukin


I am going out to the Sony outlet in Jeffersonville, Ohio this weekend and they have 
some R55's available.  I am against this model because of the battery life, but could 
probably justify it if it was cheap enough.  Does anybody know how much this sells for 
at the outlets???  Please reply asap!  
Other models I'm considering are the R50, Sharp 821, and Aiwa F70.  Suggestions???

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Matt


-for those that use the R55 - has small button size and short battery life been a  big 
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MD: MD deck - multiple inputs

1999-12-03 Thread Ed . Wong


 Any decks with multiple analog inputs?

For some unknown reason - the Denon MD2300R has
TWO digital inputs on the record side
(its a dual unit - both play but only 1 record)
Its not cheap - about $1500 street price.

I use a Pioneer DJM500 - its got *plenty* of
analog inputs. It also has a VU meter on
each channel so that I can even out the levels
before I start playing in to the MD.
Works real well... :)

EWong


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MD: Creative's Optical Daughter 2

1999-12-03 Thread Kenneth Lee


Just saw this on Creative's Europe Web-site.  Called
Creative America, and they know NOTHING about this. 
Is there anyway to order this and have Creative send
it to the State?  I DEFINITELY want one, and will
there be any kind soul out in Europe would like to
order 1 for me and send it over to the US?

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Re: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.

1999-12-03 Thread Jerry Jelinek


brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Any decks with multiple analog inputs?...

I'm not aware of any with multiple analog inputs.   For switching of
multiple analog sources, I'd go to Radio Shack and get an analog A-B
switcher for stereo switching. 

If you want multiple digital inputs, Sony has them.  My JB920 has 2 coax
digital and 1 optical digital inputs.  It also has optical and coax
digital outputs. 

Hope this helps,

Jerry



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MD: MD multi disk player/recorder

1999-12-03 Thread Dan Hergott


Does anyone know if there is a multidisk MD unit similar to say a sony
200 disk CD player?





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Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable

1999-12-03 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


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Re: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.

1999-12-03 Thread Bob Willcox


On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 10:35:25AM -0500, Jerry Jelinek wrote:
 
 brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Any decks with multiple analog inputs?...
 
 I'm not aware of any with multiple analog inputs.   For switching of
 multiple analog sources, I'd go to Radio Shack and get an analog A-B
 switcher for stereo switching. 
 
 If you want multiple digital inputs, Sony has them.  My JB920 has 2 coax
 digital and 1 optical digital inputs.  It also has optical and coax
 digital outputs. 

Actually, the JB920 (US version, anyway) has two optical and one coax
digital inputs.

Bob

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Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable

1999-12-03 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


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| almost say that the audio quality isn't sacrified at all.

So, given the premise that you are hard-pressed to distinguish between MD
and the audio CD from which it is made, which would you prefer to carry
around with you, a portable CD player or a portable MD player.  And more
importantly, why would you prefer one over the other?
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MD: DVD Delayed

1999-12-03 Thread BlackMan


I read that main DVD companies (like: Matsushita, Pioneer and Victor Co.)
delayed new DVD release because of a craker in Norway who found a way to
uncode the DVD and allow it to be copyed to a hard disk in a very easy way,
they knew that it would be a matter of time before someone did but what they
where not expecting was that it would happen before the actual new release!

LDR.

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Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable

1999-12-03 Thread Jeff DeMaagd


--- Ralph Smeets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You're right, it's not CD quality. But 99% of
all persons I know, can't hear the difference between
MD and CD. But the same 99% will hear the difference
with tape and MP3
 
 For me that's near CD quality audio on a very
portable media. We could almost say that the audio
quality isn't sacrified at all.

For my work environment, the noise exceeds the level
of distortion of any good portable digital format.

bunnytrails
I gave the portable MP3 player idea a chuck in the
'bad idea' bin on cost of the player AND cost of
removable media, never mind being tied to a
proprietary link format and a disturbing dependence on
only one OS, regardless of player.  Many 'software
links' seem to be geared to Windows 9x and aren't even
checked to see if they work under NT - they usually
don't even allow installation.
/bunnytrails

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Re: MD: DVD Delayed

1999-12-03 Thread Jake Hamby


 I read that main DVD companies (like: Matsushita, Pioneer and Victor Co.)
 delayed new DVD release because of a craker in Norway who found a way to
 uncode the DVD and allow it to be copyed to a hard disk in a very easy
way,
 they knew that it would be a matter of time before someone did but what
they
 where not expecting was that it would happen before the actual new
release!

This is an interesting development..  What actually happened is that the
cracker in Norway found a way to crack the encryption for DVD Video.  This
wasn't motivated by piracy (at least not completely :), but simply because
Linux users have been waiting too long for someone to write an officially
sanctioned Linux DVD player and so far, nobody has.  So, industrious as they
were, they figured out a way to decompress the DVD video, simply to write
players for Linux.

Anyway, the new DVD release that's being delayed is DVD Audio.  The spec was
complete and the companies were just about ready to start shipping products,
when the DVD Video crack caught them by surprise, and they hurriedly delayed
it purely because they want to put stronger encryption in there.  Once more
screwing over their customers.. Personally, I don't get it!  This is the
same thinking which has brought us "features" like SCMS, that only serve to
annoy musicians, Linux users, and anyone else who wants to make legitimate
backup copies or mixes of the media that they've purchased, while not doing
anything to stop the serious pirates, who ALWAYS find a way to bypass it.
Remember the on-disk copy protection on those 8-bit (C64, Apple ][, etc.)
computer games some of us used to play in the 80's and how they banged up
the disk drive head?  Remember how easy it was to get cracked versions of
any of those games?  Remember how it sucked if the floppy disk went bad and
you didn't have a backup copy?  Well, the big companies still haven't
figured it out..

Anyway, this doesn't really affect most of us.  If 99% of people can't tell
the difference between MD and CD, or MP3 and CD, then won't 99.99% of people
not be able to tell the difference between CD and anything better?  Why are
they bothering?  Right now Sony's selling their competing format, Super
Audio CD, and the only player I've seen costs $3500 from Crutchfield!  The
only thing remotely interesting about DVD Audio to me is the multi-channel
aspect (which Sony's SACD is theoretically capable of, but Sony hasn't
shipped any players to support it).  Since I was born in 1977 I never got to
experience the wonders of "quadraphonic sound", but it's highly amusing to
me that the home DVD phenomena seems to be making the idea of 4 or 5-channel
discrete audio promised and not quite delivered in the 70's, a reality in
the late 90's.  While it makes sense for movies, will it make a real
difference for music?  We'll just have to wait and see..

The nice thing is that, once these companies slip, and their pathetic
attempts at keeping control away from us, the consumers, fail, there's no
turning back.  DVD Video is cracked and they can't do anything about it
because they won't dare start shipping new DVD's that don't play on the old
players!  Similarly, whatever happens with DVD Audio and SACD, record labels
will have to keep shipping music on plain old CD that we can happily
continue to copy to our MD's and MP3's..  But 20 (or even 10?) years from
now, when the big companies get ready to roll out their new technologies, be
very afraid, because they'll have learned from their mistakes of the past,
and they'll have discovered even more annoying ways to screw us, the
consumers, over.

Ok, that's my political rant for the day.  :)

Here's a link to a good slashdot story covering the DVD audio situation:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/12/02/1246247mode=thread

and one on the Linux DVD crack:
http://slashdot.org/articles/99/11/14/0524254.shtml

-Jake

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RE: MD: Why Sharp ATRAC sucks (a review)

1999-12-03 Thread Martin Schiff


I just did my own test with a CD that I had recorded from my Sony CD changer
digitally to my Sharp MD-R2 deck, and the original CD playing through the
same receiver. I was not playing the CD on the same player as I used to do
the recording, but since it was digital I doubt that should make much
difference. I started both at the same time and, using headphones, did an
A/B test between them. I could tell slight differences, but in some cases
the minidisc sounded better and in others the CD. In no case was the
difference profound enough that I felt it approached the difference between
a CD and an MP3. I am a music composer (http://www.mp3.com/starbirth) and
can easily hear the difference between the wav files that I create for my
music and the compressed mp3 files, but there was nothing approaching that
between the Sharp deck and my Sony CD player.

You are leaving out a big part of the equation here, however. Unless you
have both sound sources (the CD deck and the Minidisc deck) connected
digitally to your amplification source, then you are listening to the sound
through two different DA converters. There is a great deal of difference
between DA converters, and that alone could explain the difference in what
you hear. Frankly, I can hear a difference between the DA converter in my
portable Sharp 702, and the one in my MD-R2 deck. The deck sounds quite a
bit better to my ears (now someone will probably tell me that they have the
same DA [grin]).

At any rate, what you are attributing to the Atrac could be something else
entirely.

-- Martin

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MD: sawada/r90/wrong cable

1999-12-03 Thread Jeffrey Lan


hey.

to the guy that got an r90 from sawada denki with the mini-mini cable...i 
have a mini0toslink cable...if u want, i can sell it to you or 
somethingjust as long as your in the us and dont demand a padded 
envelope

Jeffrey Lan
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MD: MZ-R55 at Sony outlet store

1999-12-03 Thread Matt Vukin


I am going out to the Sony outlet in Jeffersonville, Ohio this weekend and they have 
some R55's available.  I am against this model because of the battery life, but could 
probably justify it if it was cheap enough.  Does anybody know how much this sells for 
at the outlets???  Please reply asap!  
Other models I'm considering are the R50, Sharp 821, and Aiwa F70.  Suggestions???

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Matt


-for those that use the R55 - has small button size and short battery life been a  big 
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RE: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.

1999-12-03 Thread brent harding


Don't you end up with the same volume at the end? I mean, I thought the
more you hook up the less the volume becomes, so that you end up with some
extremely loud and some extremely soft stuff when left at one volume level.
At 06:26 PM 12/2/99 -0800, you wrote:

For multiple analog inputs, just buy the Sony S-Video switcher with four
inputs (about $ 60 MSRP) and use it as an audio switcher with any deck
or portable you like.

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Re: MD: MD multi disk player/recorder

1999-12-03 Thread brent harding



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I'd want one that would switch discs and continue recording automatically,
because I'd intend to have long recordings go when I'm not there to change
discs, like some long radio shows with music that I want in stereo.
At 11:49 AM 12/3/99 -0500, you wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a multidisk MD unit similar to say a sony
200 disk CD player?





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Re: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.

1999-12-03 Thread brent harding



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Unfortunately I'd be using radio, casette, and a cd player that has no
digital out. My sound card is built into the mother board, so I have no
choice, really, but to use it, no digital outs either. Don't think you can
easily buy converters. Also, i want to be certain that whatever I put into
the md player will always record, because some CD's I've used to put mp3s
on my computer anyway, so they would likely be considered first generation
by now, but I have deleted some, but the cd doesn't know that for the scms
thing. 
t 12:15 PM 12/3/99 -0600, you wrote:

On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 10:35:25AM -0500, Jerry Jelinek wrote:
 
 brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Any decks with multiple analog inputs?...
 
 I'm not aware of any with multiple analog inputs.   For switching of
 multiple analog sources, I'd go to Radio Shack and get an analog A-B
 switcher for stereo switching. 
 
 If you want multiple digital inputs, Sony has them.  My JB920 has 2 coax
 digital and 1 optical digital inputs.  It also has optical and coax
 digital outputs. 

Actually, the JB920 (US version, anyway) has two optical and one coax
digital inputs.

Bob

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RE: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.

1999-12-03 Thread brent harding



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What's the difference between these? I mean the 100 dollar ones and the
more expensive kind?
Probably the best way to do it. Was thinking of something like that, but
thought they were something that was just ahome made thing that some people
put together that never existed outside of that. Not to good atmaking stuff
from scratch anyway.
At 02:06 PM 12/3/99 -0500, you wrote:

You would need a mixer for that. Depending on the quality you want, you
could spend from $100 to thousands.

-- Martin

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Any decks with multiple analog inputs?

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MD: headphone amps and such

1999-12-03 Thread Mitch P.


I have seen some posts regarding headphone amps.

I have a Headbanger amp ($79) I bought from
Minidisco.com.  It does the job very well, driving my
Sony MDR-CD570 headphones(be careful, this amp can get
LOUD).

By the way, I bought these Koss "The Plug" in your ear
type earbuds.  They sound very good.  It is basically
an earplug you roll up and stick in each ear.  There
is a little tube in the center of the plug which feeds
sound to your ear.  There is very good bass isolation
due to the earplug "sealing" your ear.  Costs $20 and
is impressive.

Another less powerful headphone amp I have is the
Boostaroo.  It is only $20 and does a suprisingly good
job.  No volume control here, you use the volume
control on your MD player.  Check them out at
www.boostaroo.com

Boostaroo  Specifications
System Description:
The Boostaroo  is an audio amplifier that separates
the signal into individual stereo channels to drive 3
separate headsets or speakers.

Frequency Response:
The Boostaroo  employs similar output amplifiers to
those found in CD players.  Frequency response is
equal to or exceeds specifications. Typical
specifications are 20 to 20,000Hz +/- 2 dB.
(EIAJ CP-307 Method).

Output (@ 3VDC):
Into 16 ohm head phones (stereo mini jack),
approximately 40 mW per channel, 12 dB gain in sound
per channel.

Power Requirements:
DC at 3.0 VDC:  Two size AA batteries are required.
Use of alkaline batteries is suggested for longer
playing time.

Product Dimensions:
Size: 4.5" x 1.5" x 1.1"
(11.43cm x 3.81cm x 2.79cm) 
Weight:  6 oz (170.10G) 
with 2 AA batteries. 
Cord: 6 inches (15 cm) 
Color: Black 



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MD: headphone amps and such

1999-12-03 Thread Mitch P.


I have seen some posts regarding headphone amps.

I have a Headbanger amp ($79) I bought from
Minidisco.com.  It does the job very well, driving my
Sony MDR-CD570 headphones(be careful, this amp can get
LOUD).

By the way, I bought these Koss "The Plug" in your ear
type earbuds.  They sound very good.  It is basically
an earplug you roll up and stick in each ear.  There
is a little tube in the center of the plug which feeds
sound to your ear.  There is very good bass isolation
due to the earplug "sealing" your ear.  Costs $20 and
is impressive.

Another less powerful headphone amp I have is the
Boostaroo.  It is only $20 and does a suprisingly good
job.  No volume control here, you use the volume
control on your MD player.  Check them out at
www.boostaroo.com

Boostaroo  Specifications
System Description:
The Boostaroo  is an audio amplifier that separates
the signal into individual stereo channels to drive 3
separate headsets or speakers.

Frequency Response:
The Boostaroo  employs similar output amplifiers to
those found in CD players.  Frequency response is
equal to or exceeds specifications. Typical
specifications are 20 to 20,000Hz +/- 2 dB.
(EIAJ CP-307 Method).

Output (@ 3VDC):
Into 16 ohm head phones (stereo mini jack),
approximately 40 mW per channel, 12 dB gain in sound
per channel.

Power Requirements:
DC at 3.0 VDC:  Two size AA batteries are required.
Use of alkaline batteries is suggested for longer
playing time.

Product Dimensions:
Size: 4.5" x 1.5" x 1.1"
(11.43cm x 3.81cm x 2.79cm) 
Weight:  6 oz (170.10G) 
with 2 AA batteries. 
Cord: 6 inches (15 cm) 
Color: Black 


Mitch


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