RE: MD: headbanger amps
For more volume in your ears. That's why they're called headbanger amps ... normally associated with loud rock stuff. 3#-) Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of brent harding Sent: Friday, 3 December 1999 13:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:MD: headbanger amps Why would you want a headbanger amp for? I hear you can buy these commercially, but why would you want louder headphones? Or would you use it with speakers on a portable md player? Do you use this to plug your sources into and plug the output into the md recorder's input? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Why Sharp ATRAC sucks (a review)
I have to agree with Rick. I've got a Sharp MS702 porti and a Sony MDS-S38 deck. Both have an ATRAC of the same generation. Sharps is ATRAC 5. and Sonys is 4.0. I can't hear the differences between the two for digital recordings. Neither can anyone of my colegeas at work Like I posted on another treath, MD is closest to CD audio of all portable mediums (Excluding DAT... But DAT is not that portable since it uses the Helican Scan mechanism for recording. Ie, a mechanism simular to a VCR). I think if we all search very well, we could come up with some sounds that will sound awfull after recrording on a Sharp. While the same piece of music sounds okay on a Sony. But I thinks it compares also the otherway around. I bet you can find a piece of music that isn't handled very well by Sony ATRAC buy is by Sharps. As it comes to decks, I really like the Sonys. Why? There a lot of tools available that will control the deck using IR. Thus making titling a breeze. For porties? I favourise the slot-in mechanism over the clam-shell. This favourises Sharp off-course. I don't know why I favourise the slot-in mechanism, but I feel like it's more 'solid'. Opinions may vary... Cheers, Ralph - returning to work... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jake, There was only one case I heard of where a person could reliably tell whether the recording was from a Sharp or Sony ATRAC, and unfortunately we never substantiated that with outside experimenters. If the differences are in general as strong as you suggest, I think others would have picked them up by now too. In any case, would it be possible for you to post to a web page some short, 44.1khz, 16 bit PCM (i.e. CD audio) segments of recordings made with both the Sharp and Sony that clearly exhibit the differences so that we can all listen to them side by side? Thanks, Rick Eric Woudenberg wrote: Thanks for the long article. It's well written and I like it, except for one thing: I think your MD-MS722 was defective. The differences between modern ATRAC encoders from the various makers are subtle, really. If you have a situation where the MD recording sounds like a bad 128kbps MP3, something is wrong. My suggestion: repeat the experiment with another Sharp unit (the Sharp MT83x, MT82x and MS72x all have Sharp ATRAC 6, the MS70x is Sharp ATRAC 5). Hmm, I don't know if I can do that. I bought it from minidisco.com and they only have a 7 day return policy. I don't want to claim it's defective and then look like a fool if my theory about Sharp ATRAC being a lousy encoder is right. Maybe I can ask them if they can send me a loaner unit to verify my suspicion? With the reliability of modern electronics, I can't imagine anything being defective in such a subtle way, though.. Then again, with all the UTOC errors people have been complaining about with Sharps, who knows? Or maybe their ATRAC really isn't that great.. After all, it's subtle enough that maybe nobody noticed. I haven't seen anyone say anything other than "they both sound the same to me, but I don't have very good hearing", or even worse, "Sharp's at version 6 and Sony's at version 4.5 so Sharp must be better!" Most importantly, I haven't seen anyone doing serious double-blind tests between Sharp ATRAC and anything else. What if Sharp knows their encoder is no good but they see people are still buying it? How many people can tell a bad 128kbps MP3 from the original other than musicians with trained ears? For most people, the quality loss is apparent at a subliminal level.. you might think that 128kbps MP3 sounds ok, but try playing low bitrate MP3's for 8 hours in a row and then putting in an original CD, and the improvement is stunning! Maybe that's the case here. I'm forwarding this to the MD mailing list in case others would like to comment. Oops, I already forwarded it to the MD mailing list after I sent you a copy.. Oh well.. -Jake - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- ===
Re: MD: headbanger amps
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want a headbanger amp for? I hear you can buy these commercially, but why would you want louder headphones? Or would you use it with speakers on a portable md player? Do you use this to plug your sources into and plug the output into the md recorder's input? I would plug it where no other plug has been plugged before. Cheers, Ralph - PlugTrek The plug that plugs where no plug has plugged before... -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Kade Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 02 Dec 1999 | Isn't that an oxymoron? Isn't "impossibility" a synonym. More like, "so unlikely as not to be worth considering at this time," which does not mean "impossible". | At any rate, I disagree. Disagree all you want, but nobody has said anything about reducing the DVD form factor. So until a big name like Pioneer says otherwise, I would not hold my breath were I you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0g (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4Rzt/gl+vIlSVSNkRAp/WAJ9hR4Y2Ulq+8ns7WaaHWI4yr1sqawCgz6qp NXhq6Jmgadk6zgi5dFYxTH0= =CmXk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable
At 10:39 PM 12/2/99 -0500, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Kade Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 02 Dec 1999 | Isn't that an oxymoron? Isn't "impossibility" a synonym. More like, "so unlikely as not to be worth considering at this time," which does not mean "impossible". But that ain't what you said. You said "non-existant possibility" = "absence of possibility". "Unlikely" means "very little possibility", not "absence of possibility". | At any rate, I disagree. Disagree all you want, but nobody has said anything about reducing the DVD form factor. So until a big name like Pioneer says otherwise, I would not hold my breath were I you. There is a significant difference between improbable and impossible. It is possible to make 8cm DVDs, and it is possible to have players which play them (indeed, many already could). Heard of DVD-1 to DVD-4? Theoretical maybe, but certainly practically possible. I have no doubt that 8cm DVDs will be made (if they haven't already). I do have a doubt they will be anything more than a novelty. -- Archer http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6413/ End. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Any decks with multiple analog inputs? That way I can record from all the sources I need without unhooking or having some tracks weaker than others, wouldn't really want some tracks really loud and some quiet, so I'd need the other inputs so I'd never have to unhook sources. At 01:05 AM 12/2/99 -0500, you wrote: Kevin, Minidisco has the Sharp MDR3 deck with 3 CD trays and one minidisk for $239, and the Sony MXDD3 which has 4x dubbing for $359. I don't think either has a ps/2 port, but I don't think you are going to find one in your price range. -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Williams Hi, I'm looking for a deck that does CD-MD (nessicary) , 2x dub (not = nessicary but would prefer it), PS/2 port for tilting (NESSICARY!), and = any extra features would be great. I would perfer Sony, but if any other = brand I wouldn't mind. Price range 200-300$. Thanks for your time. -Kevin - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD Units For Sale: JVC XM-R70, Sony MZ-R55, JVC XM-D1
Well, I have four minidisc units right now (three, since my Sony MDS-JA20ES just bit the dust minutes ago. It will not turn on-and there's an important disc inside. At least it has a five year warranty. I'll call Sony in the morning and arrange for a pickup.) Meantime, I'm thinking of buying an MZ-R90 so I'll probably try to sell what I have as follows: JVC-XMR70 This one is BRAND NEW, used a couple of hours, never recorded on, all the stuff that came with it is brand new as well. This was an impulse buy and I don't like the fact it has no line out. But if you want it, I'll sell it for what I paid: $ 250. (Actually, I paid $ 225 plus California Sales Tax and shipping would put it at $ 250 or a little over, so I'm not making anything.) JVC-XMD1 Hardly ever used, this one I use mainly as a clock. I like the unit, but if you want one of these, make an offer and I'll let you know if I want to accept it. See the MD page for this units details. On the negative side, this is an ATRAC 1 recorder. On the plus side, it is very unique and hard to find, especially in mint conditiion. If you've been looking for one of these, here it is. Unit and all accessories are in mint condition. This is pretty much an MD collectors item, not a state of the art portable recorder. In fact, it's not really a portable but a portable/deck hybird about twice the size of the MZ-1 Sony MZR55 Silver, used often. In excellent condition, remote in good condition with a few suface scratces. Sometimes has a problem accepting certain MD's. If this happens (disc will spin but not play) reinsert the disc and it will work. Extra battery included. $ 225 I'm also selling a Sony TRV 900 Mini DV Camcorder. 3 CCD, excellent condtion and a number of accessories. If you live in Southern California, I have two televisions for sale as well. One is a 40 inch widescreen Toshiba I bought recently, the other a 35 inch Inteq. I've decided I want the 56 inch Panasonic widescreen HDTV instead and may pick up the Pioneer Portable DVD Player as well. Please E-Mail me if interested in the MD items or if you have any questions about the non MD items. Thanks! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Why Sharp ATRAC sucks (a review)
Hi all, This is a repost of a USENET post I just submitted to alt.audio.minidisc. I hope this doesn't break the rules of the FAQ by sounding "argumentative", but this is my attempt to be as objective as possible describing my personal experiences with both the Sharp and Sony MD recorders, and specifically their different implementations of ATRAC compression. Comments, criticisms, flames (ok, not flames!) welcome.. As a new MD owner, I searched all over the Web and USENET for any information on differences in quality between the different ATRAC versions. Sure, on minidisc.org, you can read about the improvements in Sony's ATRAC implementation from version to version, and how well Sony MD compares to 128kbps Xing-encoded MP3 (please!), but I couldn't find *any* mention of how well Sharp's encoder stacks up, other than vague comparisons like this one (from http://members.tripod.com/~Civil_Disobedient/r50vs701.html) "The result is that the Sharp and Sony units make recordings with slightly different sound characteristics, but which one people prefer is more a matter of personal taste than one necessarily being "better". I'm unfortunately not in any way equipped to test the differences, and until someone does, it's fairly safe to judge them the same and move on to something that actually makes an audible difference." So, assuming that one ATRAC's as good as another, I ordered the MP3 combo kit, including the Sharp MD-MS722, from minidisco.com. The new sound card with optical out worked as advertised, but I quickly discovered that my Aiwa bookshelf stereo's digital out worked even better (no manually splitting up tracks, and since I own the original CD's to the music I want to listen to, I wouldn't think about copying from an MP3 unless I had to). Everything seemed okay at first. The Sharp had a nasty tendency to cut off the first second of each track when I used the Aiwa's program play feature, so that sucked, but manually recording a track at a time (or the entire CD) worked around that bug. But after a few days of listening to my tunes, I came to the unhappy conclusion that something wasn't quite right. Some of my music started giving me the impression of listening to a low-bitrate MP3: some people may be happy with 128kbps MP3's, but believe me they're not CD quality! After conducting some painstaking listening tests a few months ago, I discovered that 192kbps, or even 256kbps is necessary to make a "CD quality MP3", or else one starts to hear a certain "fuzziness" or "shrouding" about the music.. Cymbals seem sizzly, and the natural ambience of the room disappears. Maybe this is what audiophiles mean when they talk about digital lacking "warmth", but what we're really talking about are compression artifacts! When you're throwing away 80% (or in the case of 128kbps, 90%) of the music information, you better throw away the *right* 80%, and that's why making a good encoder is so very difficult (by comparison, the decoder's job is much easier, as it just has to play back the bits that are left). This is especially apparent with acoustic instruments like guitar and cymbals (which can have very complicated upper harmonics that the brain has an entire listening history to compare to), and with techno music, which often has very pronounced percussion and strange electronic effects which can be very difficult to encode (try encoding the first 30 seconds of "Kalifornia" by Fat Boy Slim with *any* MP3 or MD encoder, listen to the result with some good headphones, and you'll hear what I mean!). Since I knew that MD was using 292kbps, I assumed it wouldn't have any problems with making me happy.. it certainly shouldn't sound as bad as 128kbps Xing-encoded MP3's, but here it was. I ended up pressing a CD-R of the original 48 test tracks I'd used to compare MP3 encoders (all culled from the first 30-60 seconds of various songs I suspected would be difficult to encode), and copying them to MD using the Sharp. Sure enough, quick A-B testing confirmed some serious quality problems! Acoustic guitars sounded slightly muffled and synthesized.. Pan flutes, pianos, and drums suffered a similar fate. There was a most noticeable loss of higher harmonics, leading a fuzziness to everything, most unpleasant. Crisp attacks, such as cymbal crashes were rendered hollow, to the point of sounding more like a bad Commodore 64 white noise synthesized "drum" than the real thing. It sounded so bad I was beginning to regret my entire MD investment (and after I bought the Sharp 722, I had splurged on an entire 40-pack of blank MD's, AND the JVC MD/CD car unit.. yep I went a little crazy!). My only hope was to put faith in Sony, hoping that their ATRAC implementation wouldn't let me down (after all, all of the head-to-head DAT vs. MD tests by musicians that I'd read online had used Sony, not Sharp). I ordered the MXD-D3: 4x copying from CD to MD is a *sweet* feature, but only if the quality is decent. However, the
Re: MD: Optical Cables.. mini-in-a-toslink out?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Neither the CD player or the R90 are at fault. The cable is at fault. simple solution: buy a toslink to mini cable. A sony branded cable will run around 30-40 dollars US, or an off brand will run as cheap as 8 bucks. Recton, sells "adaptors" with some of their cables. That allow you to convert ends between mini and toslink. If you just try to hold it there, you'll likely lose too much signaling along with outside light leaking in. don't send the R90 back, you'll kick yourself if you do... -Jeffrey On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, nick wrote: hey.. I just bought an R90 from sawada denki, and there's an issue with the optical cable... it came with a mini/mini and i've only got a toslink optical out on my cd changer. If i hold the miniplug in the toslink out of the cd player, and red light comes out the other end of the cord.. and then that goes into the r90, should the r90 pick up the signal or isnt there enough light red light for it to detect? the r90 may be at fault, the cd player may be at fault, or it just might not work when you hold a mini in a toslink out.. either way, i've got about 10 days left to email sawada if its the R90... thanks nick __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Response to....Why would you want a HEADBANGER
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 20:49:44 -0600 From: brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: headbanger amps Why would you want a headbanger amp for? I hear you can buy these commercially, but why would you want louder headphones? Or would you use it with speakers on a portable md player? Do you use this to plug your sources into and plug the output into the md recorder's input? -- One of the reasons would be the use of HIGH QUALITY HEADPHONES. These phones have much higher impedance's (100 ohms - 600 Ohms) than the "EARBUDS" that most folks are used to. The either just plain wont work, or will work at VERY LOW volume levels. For some neat info on this check out these two sites "http://www.headwize.com" The HEADWIZE home page, and also check out what kinds of "real headphones" are available at "http://headphone.com" , the Headroom Home page. Try a listen and I'll bet you'll never wear "buds" again..! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: the Internet Minidisc by Sharp
The connection is analog, and it does depend on the synchro-start mechanism. Sony's upcoming MP3 MD solution is better in my opinion. It's a paralell/USB to optical connection -- with some sort of software -- that will be out very early 2000 in the US. Sony originally said the price would be $49.99, but last time I spoke to them they reatracted that, so I'm not sure exactly what the price will be. Unless it's significantly higher, I'm gettin' one. Does anybody else (Japan?...) know anything about this? What other inexpensive digital options are there that don't involve buying a new sound card? -- Katz I read somewhere that the connection is analog, and that you must leave the recorder in SYNCHRO-START RECORD mode. This implies that it will work with any recorder that has analog synchro-start capability (i.e. not Sonys). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #443
I am going out to the Sony outlet in Jeffersonville, Ohio this weekend and they have some R55's available. I am against this model because of the battery life, but could probably justify it if it was cheap enough. Does anybody know how much this sells for at the outlets??? Please reply asap! Other models I'm considering are the R50, Sharp 821, and Aiwa F70. Suggestions??? THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Matt -for those that use the R55 - has small button size and short battery life been a big problem?? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD deck - multiple inputs
Any decks with multiple analog inputs? For some unknown reason - the Denon MD2300R has TWO digital inputs on the record side (its a dual unit - both play but only 1 record) Its not cheap - about $1500 street price. I use a Pioneer DJM500 - its got *plenty* of analog inputs. It also has a VU meter on each channel so that I can even out the levels before I start playing in to the MD. Works real well... :) EWong - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Creative's Optical Daughter 2
Just saw this on Creative's Europe Web-site. Called Creative America, and they know NOTHING about this. Is there anyway to order this and have Creative send it to the State? I DEFINITELY want one, and will there be any kind soul out in Europe would like to order 1 for me and send it over to the US? __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.
brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any decks with multiple analog inputs?... I'm not aware of any with multiple analog inputs. For switching of multiple analog sources, I'd go to Radio Shack and get an analog A-B switcher for stereo switching. If you want multiple digital inputs, Sony has them. My JB920 has 2 coax digital and 1 optical digital inputs. It also has optical and coax digital outputs. Hope this helps, Jerry Jerry Jelinek at work via OS/2[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://junior.apk.net/~centaurs - My Favorite Web Links "Our next song is "Angels We Have Heard Get High"." "Don't let worry kill you--let the church help." - from actual church bulletins - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD multi disk player/recorder
Does anyone know if there is a multidisk MD unit similar to say a sony 200 disk CD player? Dan Hergott RCDD Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Kade Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 02 Dec 1999 | But that ain't what you said. You said "non-existant possibility" = | "absence of possibility". "Unlikely" means "very little possibility", not | "absence of possibility". This is what I actually wrote: [...] which at this time appears to be a nonexistant possiblity. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0g (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4SAWQgl+vIlSVSNkRAnSsAJ4zrmL2u6iXzoFCZeAWcG+7E8ufTQCcCys3 ChMpNHAKesrMC7UNC09OtjQ= =9g11 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ of skin. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 10:35:25AM -0500, Jerry Jelinek wrote: brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any decks with multiple analog inputs?... I'm not aware of any with multiple analog inputs. For switching of multiple analog sources, I'd go to Radio Shack and get an analog A-B switcher for stereo switching. If you want multiple digital inputs, Sony has them. My JB920 has 2 coax digital and 1 optical digital inputs. It also has optical and coax digital outputs. Actually, the JB920 (US version, anyway) has two optical and one coax digital inputs. Bob -- Bob Willcox Don't tell me that worry doesn't do any good. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know better. The things I worry about don't Austin, TX happen. -- Watchman Examiner - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Ralph Smeets [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 03 Dec 1999 | For me that's near CD quality audio on a very portable media. We could | almost say that the audio quality isn't sacrified at all. So, given the premise that you are hard-pressed to distinguish between MD and the audio CD from which it is made, which would you prefer to carry around with you, a portable CD player or a portable MD player. And more importantly, why would you prefer one over the other? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0g (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4SAe0gl+vIlSVSNkRAmXqAKDNLzDjM1j6ahoYpoT3W2F8GO1TwACeI06y wFFRfWwe6OWf3FmSmCWtGmA= =Gi9w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ accelerate to dangerous speeds. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: DVD Delayed
I read that main DVD companies (like: Matsushita, Pioneer and Victor Co.) delayed new DVD release because of a craker in Norway who found a way to uncode the DVD and allow it to be copyed to a hard disk in a very easy way, they knew that it would be a matter of time before someone did but what they where not expecting was that it would happen before the actual new release! LDR. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: OT DVD Recordable
--- Ralph Smeets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, it's not CD quality. But 99% of all persons I know, can't hear the difference between MD and CD. But the same 99% will hear the difference with tape and MP3 For me that's near CD quality audio on a very portable media. We could almost say that the audio quality isn't sacrified at all. For my work environment, the noise exceeds the level of distortion of any good portable digital format. bunnytrails I gave the portable MP3 player idea a chuck in the 'bad idea' bin on cost of the player AND cost of removable media, never mind being tied to a proprietary link format and a disturbing dependence on only one OS, regardless of player. Many 'software links' seem to be geared to Windows 9x and aren't even checked to see if they work under NT - they usually don't even allow installation. /bunnytrails Jeff __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: DVD Delayed
I read that main DVD companies (like: Matsushita, Pioneer and Victor Co.) delayed new DVD release because of a craker in Norway who found a way to uncode the DVD and allow it to be copyed to a hard disk in a very easy way, they knew that it would be a matter of time before someone did but what they where not expecting was that it would happen before the actual new release! This is an interesting development.. What actually happened is that the cracker in Norway found a way to crack the encryption for DVD Video. This wasn't motivated by piracy (at least not completely :), but simply because Linux users have been waiting too long for someone to write an officially sanctioned Linux DVD player and so far, nobody has. So, industrious as they were, they figured out a way to decompress the DVD video, simply to write players for Linux. Anyway, the new DVD release that's being delayed is DVD Audio. The spec was complete and the companies were just about ready to start shipping products, when the DVD Video crack caught them by surprise, and they hurriedly delayed it purely because they want to put stronger encryption in there. Once more screwing over their customers.. Personally, I don't get it! This is the same thinking which has brought us "features" like SCMS, that only serve to annoy musicians, Linux users, and anyone else who wants to make legitimate backup copies or mixes of the media that they've purchased, while not doing anything to stop the serious pirates, who ALWAYS find a way to bypass it. Remember the on-disk copy protection on those 8-bit (C64, Apple ][, etc.) computer games some of us used to play in the 80's and how they banged up the disk drive head? Remember how easy it was to get cracked versions of any of those games? Remember how it sucked if the floppy disk went bad and you didn't have a backup copy? Well, the big companies still haven't figured it out.. Anyway, this doesn't really affect most of us. If 99% of people can't tell the difference between MD and CD, or MP3 and CD, then won't 99.99% of people not be able to tell the difference between CD and anything better? Why are they bothering? Right now Sony's selling their competing format, Super Audio CD, and the only player I've seen costs $3500 from Crutchfield! The only thing remotely interesting about DVD Audio to me is the multi-channel aspect (which Sony's SACD is theoretically capable of, but Sony hasn't shipped any players to support it). Since I was born in 1977 I never got to experience the wonders of "quadraphonic sound", but it's highly amusing to me that the home DVD phenomena seems to be making the idea of 4 or 5-channel discrete audio promised and not quite delivered in the 70's, a reality in the late 90's. While it makes sense for movies, will it make a real difference for music? We'll just have to wait and see.. The nice thing is that, once these companies slip, and their pathetic attempts at keeping control away from us, the consumers, fail, there's no turning back. DVD Video is cracked and they can't do anything about it because they won't dare start shipping new DVD's that don't play on the old players! Similarly, whatever happens with DVD Audio and SACD, record labels will have to keep shipping music on plain old CD that we can happily continue to copy to our MD's and MP3's.. But 20 (or even 10?) years from now, when the big companies get ready to roll out their new technologies, be very afraid, because they'll have learned from their mistakes of the past, and they'll have discovered even more annoying ways to screw us, the consumers, over. Ok, that's my political rant for the day. :) Here's a link to a good slashdot story covering the DVD audio situation: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/12/02/1246247mode=thread and one on the Linux DVD crack: http://slashdot.org/articles/99/11/14/0524254.shtml -Jake - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Why Sharp ATRAC sucks (a review)
I just did my own test with a CD that I had recorded from my Sony CD changer digitally to my Sharp MD-R2 deck, and the original CD playing through the same receiver. I was not playing the CD on the same player as I used to do the recording, but since it was digital I doubt that should make much difference. I started both at the same time and, using headphones, did an A/B test between them. I could tell slight differences, but in some cases the minidisc sounded better and in others the CD. In no case was the difference profound enough that I felt it approached the difference between a CD and an MP3. I am a music composer (http://www.mp3.com/starbirth) and can easily hear the difference between the wav files that I create for my music and the compressed mp3 files, but there was nothing approaching that between the Sharp deck and my Sony CD player. You are leaving out a big part of the equation here, however. Unless you have both sound sources (the CD deck and the Minidisc deck) connected digitally to your amplification source, then you are listening to the sound through two different DA converters. There is a great deal of difference between DA converters, and that alone could explain the difference in what you hear. Frankly, I can hear a difference between the DA converter in my portable Sharp 702, and the one in my MD-R2 deck. The deck sounds quite a bit better to my ears (now someone will probably tell me that they have the same DA [grin]). At any rate, what you are attributing to the Atrac could be something else entirely. -- Martin - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: sawada/r90/wrong cable
hey. to the guy that got an r90 from sawada denki with the mini-mini cable...i have a mini0toslink cable...if u want, i can sell it to you or somethingjust as long as your in the us and dont demand a padded envelope Jeffrey Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MZ-R55 at Sony outlet store
I am going out to the Sony outlet in Jeffersonville, Ohio this weekend and they have some R55's available. I am against this model because of the battery life, but could probably justify it if it was cheap enough. Does anybody know how much this sells for at the outlets??? Please reply asap! Other models I'm considering are the R50, Sharp 821, and Aiwa F70. Suggestions??? THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Matt -for those that use the R55 - has small button size and short battery life been a big problem?? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.
Don't you end up with the same volume at the end? I mean, I thought the more you hook up the less the volume becomes, so that you end up with some extremely loud and some extremely soft stuff when left at one volume level. At 06:26 PM 12/2/99 -0800, you wrote: For multiple analog inputs, just buy the Sony S-Video switcher with four inputs (about $ 60 MSRP) and use it as an audio switcher with any deck or portable you like. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD multi disk player/recorder
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I'd want one that would switch discs and continue recording automatically, because I'd intend to have long recordings go when I'm not there to change discs, like some long radio shows with music that I want in stereo. At 11:49 AM 12/3/99 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a multidisk MD unit similar to say a sony 200 disk CD player? Dan Hergott RCDD Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Unfortunately I'd be using radio, casette, and a cd player that has no digital out. My sound card is built into the mother board, so I have no choice, really, but to use it, no digital outs either. Don't think you can easily buy converters. Also, i want to be certain that whatever I put into the md player will always record, because some CD's I've used to put mp3s on my computer anyway, so they would likely be considered first generation by now, but I have deleted some, but the cd doesn't know that for the scms thing. t 12:15 PM 12/3/99 -0600, you wrote: On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 10:35:25AM -0500, Jerry Jelinek wrote: brent harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any decks with multiple analog inputs?... I'm not aware of any with multiple analog inputs. For switching of multiple analog sources, I'd go to Radio Shack and get an analog A-B switcher for stereo switching. If you want multiple digital inputs, Sony has them. My JB920 has 2 coax digital and 1 optical digital inputs. It also has optical and coax digital outputs. Actually, the JB920 (US version, anyway) has two optical and one coax digital inputs. Bob -- Bob Willcox Don't tell me that worry doesn't do any good. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know better. The things I worry about don't Austin, TX happen. -- Watchman Examiner - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Looking for the right MD Deck.
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === What's the difference between these? I mean the 100 dollar ones and the more expensive kind? Probably the best way to do it. Was thinking of something like that, but thought they were something that was just ahome made thing that some people put together that never existed outside of that. Not to good atmaking stuff from scratch anyway. At 02:06 PM 12/3/99 -0500, you wrote: You would need a mixer for that. Depending on the quality you want, you could spend from $100 to thousands. -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of brent harding Any decks with multiple analog inputs? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: headphone amps and such
I have seen some posts regarding headphone amps. I have a Headbanger amp ($79) I bought from Minidisco.com. It does the job very well, driving my Sony MDR-CD570 headphones(be careful, this amp can get LOUD). By the way, I bought these Koss "The Plug" in your ear type earbuds. They sound very good. It is basically an earplug you roll up and stick in each ear. There is a little tube in the center of the plug which feeds sound to your ear. There is very good bass isolation due to the earplug "sealing" your ear. Costs $20 and is impressive. Another less powerful headphone amp I have is the Boostaroo. It is only $20 and does a suprisingly good job. No volume control here, you use the volume control on your MD player. Check them out at www.boostaroo.com Boostaroo Specifications System Description: The Boostaroo is an audio amplifier that separates the signal into individual stereo channels to drive 3 separate headsets or speakers. Frequency Response: The Boostaroo employs similar output amplifiers to those found in CD players. Frequency response is equal to or exceeds specifications. Typical specifications are 20 to 20,000Hz +/- 2 dB. (EIAJ CP-307 Method). Output (@ 3VDC): Into 16 ohm head phones (stereo mini jack), approximately 40 mW per channel, 12 dB gain in sound per channel. Power Requirements: DC at 3.0 VDC: Two size AA batteries are required. Use of alkaline batteries is suggested for longer playing time. Product Dimensions: Size: 4.5" x 1.5" x 1.1" (11.43cm x 3.81cm x 2.79cm) Weight: 6 oz (170.10G) with 2 AA batteries. Cord: 6 inches (15 cm) Color: Black __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: headphone amps and such
I have seen some posts regarding headphone amps. I have a Headbanger amp ($79) I bought from Minidisco.com. It does the job very well, driving my Sony MDR-CD570 headphones(be careful, this amp can get LOUD). By the way, I bought these Koss "The Plug" in your ear type earbuds. They sound very good. It is basically an earplug you roll up and stick in each ear. There is a little tube in the center of the plug which feeds sound to your ear. There is very good bass isolation due to the earplug "sealing" your ear. Costs $20 and is impressive. Another less powerful headphone amp I have is the Boostaroo. It is only $20 and does a suprisingly good job. No volume control here, you use the volume control on your MD player. Check them out at www.boostaroo.com Boostaroo Specifications System Description: The Boostaroo is an audio amplifier that separates the signal into individual stereo channels to drive 3 separate headsets or speakers. Frequency Response: The Boostaroo employs similar output amplifiers to those found in CD players. Frequency response is equal to or exceeds specifications. Typical specifications are 20 to 20,000Hz +/- 2 dB. (EIAJ CP-307 Method). Output (@ 3VDC): Into 16 ohm head phones (stereo mini jack), approximately 40 mW per channel, 12 dB gain in sound per channel. Power Requirements: DC at 3.0 VDC: Two size AA batteries are required. Use of alkaline batteries is suggested for longer playing time. Product Dimensions: Size: 4.5" x 1.5" x 1.1" (11.43cm x 3.81cm x 2.79cm) Weight: 6 oz (170.10G) with 2 AA batteries. Cord: 6 inches (15 cm) Color: Black Mitch __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]