Re: MD: The truth about Hi Space and Memorex...
From: "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack wrote, | Yes, Memorex minidisc are really poor on bass and high frequency... Incredible (very literally). MD is a digital storage medium. As long as ones stay ones and zeroes stay zeroes, it doesn't matter (and the disc (snip...) I think he was taking the p*** about them sounding different... But I've used dozens of HiSpace without any problems. Why do so many peeps think cheap has to mean rubbish? Cheers, PrinceGaz - giving his Memorex MDs a funny look, even with the metal shutter! Should be fine in a clam-shell portie I guess. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Whats Up With Circuit City?
Simon Barnes wrote: why are you slagging off HiSpace ? I've got hundreds of 'em, and they work just fine. I have to admit that I've never heard any defense of Memorex, and plenty of criticism, but I've never seen one to try for myself. I bought a 5-pack of Memorex when they first came out for sale at Best Buy sometime in '98 or so. Still works perfectly to this day. -- Shawn Lin http://www2.cybercities.com/g/gmwbodycars/ _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sharp MD-MT 15S Potentially $89.95 at Mobshop
I saw this deal in another forum and thought some might be interested. Mob shop has another cycle going on the Sharp MD-MT 15S: http://www.mobshop.com/cycles?cycle_id=226263 The coupon code for $50 off is TOPICATIP Reserve your spot at $139.95. The cycle runs through Tuesday (04/11/00), 12:45pm EDT. The previous cycle on these got down to $139.95 before the close of the cycle. Thanks- Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Supreme Video? Sony vs. Sharp?
Greetings to all: I'm new to this list and in the process of buying my first portable MD recorder. Has anyone had any experience with Supreme Video? They are an on-line electronics retailer. Their prices seem really low, and I'm just wondering what their customer service is like. Also, I'm looking at the Sony MZ-R90, primarily for recording live (rock) music in small-to-medium sized venues. For that purpose, how do you think the Sony compares to the Sharp MT-831? Thanks in advance for your help, Nick __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The truth about Hi Space and Memorex...
sherryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I can do is report on the statements of others on the list. H S has not gotten many favorable reviews. Funny, I have the opposite impression. With a couple exceptions, I have only heard positive things about HS discs on this list. MiniDisco sells several brands, and HS are their favorites, too. I have about 60 HS discs, fifteen or so Maxell, and ten Sony. The HS disks are every bit as good/sturdy/well-made as the other brands, have better cases, and were much cheaper. I have not had a single problem with a HiSpace disc. I recommend them to everyone I know over the overpriced Sony discs. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Info Needed=MT15VQ/R55PC
Can anyone give me details about the sharp MT15VQ unit and the sony R55PC unit? I like the fact they hook to a computer, but I really don't know just how useful each is. Thanks - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #592
But I've used dozens of HiSpace without any problems. Why do so many peeps think cheap has to mean rubbish? Same with me. I'm using them w\o any problems, and they're pretty good in terms of build quality. I've seen no big differences between them and, say, the Sony blanks. Some of my friends are even noticed a sonic differences, namely, they see the HS as the one with a louder output ( at the same volume on amplifier) than Sony and Maxell, but I can't confirm that because I don't have the time to made any such experiments. Otherwise, I have no complaints, cheap, reliable, nice packagethat's enough for me. P.S. Don't forget to fill your blanks with some music! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Best MD Unit For Making Field Recordings?
Greetings All, I'm in the market for a new portable MD unit. My Sharp MS-702 has the UTOC error and after trying some repairs myself, I've finally decided to give up on it! I will be using the new MD unit to make recordings of nature, industrial, and other "found sounds", after which I will be transferring these sounds to my multi-track and overdubbing music. Anyone have any suggestions as to a good unit for this purpose? I appreciate your input. Regards, Yvonne - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The truth about Hi Space and Memorex...
The only Hi Space disc I have is the one that came with my Sony R70 from PlanetMinidisc. In the past, I've always used Sony. When I opened it up, the shutter was open, exposing the disc. Gently pushing on it got it to close. I tried recording on it and it recorded for about 45 minutes and then my recorder suddenly stopped recording and flashed "TOC Edit." Hitting stop, etc. did nothing. I had to unplug the unit and remove the battery. Then, of course, the TOC was no good so it thought the disc was still blank. The second time I tried recording on it, it suddently stopped and did "TOC Edit" and then went to "DISC ERR." Have never had such a problem with the Sonys. Obviously an isolated incident is a poor basis for judging the brand, but it certainly didn't leave a good taste in my mouth. sean -- Sean Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]|"America is a country filled http://www.dogcow.org/sean/ | with people who have run away." | --The Nields - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The truth about Hi Space and Memorex...
sherryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I can do is report on the statements of others on the list. H S has not gotten many favorable reviews. Funny, I have the opposite impression. With a couple exceptions, I have only heard positive things about HS discs on this list. MiniDisco sells several brands, and HS are their favorites, too. I have about 60 HS discs, fifteen or so Maxell, and ten Sony. The HS disks are every bit as good/sturdy/well-made as the other brands, have better cases, and were much cheaper. I have not had a single problem with a HiSpace disc. I recommend them to everyone I know over the overpriced Sony discs. I've had almost exactly the same experience. When I first got my recorder, I bought a few Sony, Maxell and Hispace discs. As far as audio quality goes (someone earlier mentioned that Hispace sounds worse) all sound exactly the same, as the theory would suggest. In terms of sturdiness, they're great - not one of them has broken on me yet, though i've had a couple of those Maxell cases break (no discs so far), yet the HiSpace discs are consistently less expensive than the other brands. Personally, I never object to something which is better or equal AND inexpensive. David - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The truth about Hi Space and Memorex...
I agree, of course, with all these good comments about Hi Space minidisc... I know that you can tell I'm not impartial, but you're false on this... You know, It's only since one month that I'm a Hi Space distributor... I've looked for Sony and TDK before to sell their minidisc and they were asking a minimum selling price, they were asking too many purchase at the same time and as everyone knows and says : You pay for the name... Yes, you overpay to have the Sony name in your shelves... I'm a great buyer from Minidisco too... I just want to sell hi-space minidisc to be able to offer the best price as possible; the lowest I can have, to everyone... I don't really need to have a big markup on these products cause my prior company, Kheops, let me the chance to make my money very well... Minidisc is my all time favorite passion... I have tried all brand of minidisc and I was very please with hi space (HS) minidisc... So, I'm a proud buyer and now, Sellers... You can use them with confidence... I try to offer the best price as possible... In a few weeks, I will offer the lowest price on the crystal 74 mn minidisc... I just don't have receive them yet... I think I will be able to sell them to $1.65 or $1.70 each for any quantities... Not for 100 discs at a time... For each and every quantity... My goal is simple : provide the same good price to everyone !!! The only thing I can't deal with, is the shipping charge... That's the way it is... I strongly suggest you to visit my web site often... For now I only have 2 kind of minidisc and I will receive 3 other kind in a few days or weeks... so visit my website often... http://www.kheopsglassart.com/minidisc/ Have a nice evening... Jack and Pierre From Kheops Minidisc. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: dataplay
It's a neat idea. The small size would be attractive for integration with palm computing. But, if the Wired article is right, Dataplay is write-once. Sounds like a problem to me. One of the things I like about minidisc is the ability to re-write if I make a mistake. Although it sounds like Dataplay has addressed most all of the other problems of CDR, its apparent lack of rewritability is a major flaw, so far as I can see. The only flaw of expanding minidisc into other applications, for instance palm computing, is that its size is almost to large. The MDs size is probably due to the fact that in the early 90s when the format was designed, the present size is about as good as they could do while keeping the cost reasonable. With some effort though, it might be possible to cram a slot-in MD recorder into a Palm III sized palmtop computer... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Whats Up With Circuit City?
Hi Shawn. I also get some Memorex from CC and didn't have any problems with them. It's just that so many people on the list have claimed to have problems with the and High Space. I find it hard to believe that those list members all made it up. But as for myself, I don't think that I have ever had a bad disc no matter what the brand. I have never bought a CD that was defective either the first time I played it. But it seems like some CDs are "self scratching". I think that I even had a defective CD boom box years ago that cut a circular scratch in it. As long as the place you buy from is willing to take back any blank that is defective, I think that everyone should try all of the least expensive blanks. Personally I think that people aren't going to have problems with 99.999% of them. I notice that Art Munson sells High Space for $1.59 each from time to time. BUT he uses the old e business trick of charging excessive amounts for shipping/handling. I think he charges $5 on every order above the shipping charges. That is a whole other topic that I won't get into now. All I will say is that it really pisses me off when CNET list the "lowest price" to get an item. Then you find out that a $10 item has a shipping charge of $8! Regards, Larry "Shawn R. Lin" wrote: Simon Barnes wrote: why are you slagging off HiSpace ? I've got hundreds of 'em, and they work just fine. I have to admit that I've never heard any defense of Memorex, and plenty of criticism, but I've never seen one to try for myself. I bought a 5-pack of Memorex when they first came out for sale at Best Buy sometime in '98 or so. Still works perfectly to this day. -- Shawn Lin http://www2.cybercities.com/g/gmwbodycars/ _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Circuit City Responds
Circuit City sent me a reply to a question about their statments about MD on their website. The reply is listed first, followed by the question that I sent them: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Circuit City Dear Mr. Callahan: Thanks for writing with your comments. As a fellow lover of quality sound I'm always glad to hear from those with different opinions. Heck...that's part of what makes audio fun. Let me first say that I think you misunderstood part of what we are saying about mini-disc and that we're really in agreement. We aren't saying that tapes of CD's are as good as mini-discs of CD's. I suppose one could make that argument at the very highest end of tape decks under extraordinary recording control circumstances, but certainly no tape deck we sell can make a tape of equivilent quality to your mini-disc. So we agree there. We also totally agree with you on MP3...but it sells way more than MD so we advertise it more. We are bringing in new MD products now and fully intend to continue to support the format along with MP3 and CD-R Audio for digital recording. What we are saying is that in direct listening comparison to the original CD, there is a small difference in sound quality with a mini-disc. I would call it a slight dulling or blurring of the musical signal. This is something I have heard myself as well as read in much of the industry press over the last few years. Does that make mini disc a bad format... no way...but to me it does disqualify it from being an audiophile storage medium. If you can't hear the slight difference with your equipment then mini disc is a perfect choice for you and I suspect the vast majority of people will be absolutely satisfied with mini disc and discern no difference between it and their CD's. Nevertheless, we stand by our comments that it isn't quite as good as the original CDreally, really close but not quite. I hope this puts our opinion in a better perspective for you and I do want to thank you once again for taking time out to share yours. I'll take my CDRW and you can take your MDand as long as we're both listening to good tunes with a smile on our faces, that's what it's really all about! Best regards, George Barr Director - Internet Development http://www.circuitcity.com In Reply To Your web site says: "Mini-discs don't have frequency response or other "normal" hi-fi measurements because the ATRAC system does not permit "straight" measurement of the compressed/reduced data. Some audiophiles object to this and prefer to stick with high end cassette decks or expensive DAT machines for critical recordings. We won't argue this point, for if you put on headphones and compare a CD to an MD recorded from the CD, you will hear some minor degradation if you listen closely." Huh? I don't know who's listening for you, but there is no tape in existance that can compare favorably to MD. I use MD all the time, with headphones, and do not hear the "minor degradation" of which you speak. I'm an obsessive audiophile who would like to see MD grab a better market share in the US as it has in Japan, Europe Australia. I've purchased MD equipment at circuit City, but I'm starting to find more available at Internet locations; you seem to have made more room for(shudder)MP3, which TRULY has sound degradation problems and memory issues, among other things. Just my .02 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The truth about Hi Space and Memorex...
The memorex minidisc is really cheap, the plastic cover very weak. Well why are all the memorex discs I buy have no problems and have been stepped on and not cracked? Do I have a horseshoe up my ass when it comes to blank MD's? And, umm... while just about every place here sells MD stuff (hell, CVS sells 3 packs of blanks) I cannot find any Hi Space. It's like they don't exist. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MiniDisc Weekly News for 9 April 2000
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 3 April 2000
o James Torsen finds a ZDNet article concluding that [1]MD is superior
to the Memory Stick Walkman.
[1] http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_4625.html
o Doug Rice shows how he made a [2]Remote Control Timer for an Aiwa
AM-F5
[2] http://www.btinternet.com/~doug.h.rice/sed1200/awaiamf5.htm
o Angus Bell spots a Wired article in which Terence Chea grudgingly
accepts that [3]MiniDisc is the best recording format in today's
consumer digital audio marketplace.
[3] http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,34854,00.html
o James Tolley notes a [4]Fast Company blurbette stating MD is good.
[4] http://www.fastcompany.com/online/33/mini.html
o Oscar Setiawan points out Creative's [5]Live Drive II optical I/O
bracket.
[5] http://www.americas.creative.com/accessories/audio
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 4 April 2000
o Ed Porras finds the $100 (almost) MD Recorder: "Group buying site
[1]MobShop offers the Sharp MD-MT15S Portable MiniDisc Player /
Recorder for $159.95 with free shipping. Promotion code
''TOPICATIP'' takes $50 off for a net price of $109.95, a reader
found. (Enter it at checkout.) The price may fall to $139.95 before
discount, or $89.95 after, before the buying cycle closes on
Thursday, April 6 at 12:45 pm ET."
[1] http://www.mobshop.com/cycles?cycle_id=221684sourceid=DEALNEWS
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 5 April 2000
o John and Mike Sims announce [1]ZephIR, a $75 hardware and software
package for IR universal remote control from a Macintosh (includes
ADB port IR interface).
[1] http://www.thezephir.com/
o Mostafa Abdel-Hady and Ed Wong find a second MobShop buy-cycle for
the [2]$110 Sharp MD-MT15S, promotion code ''TOPICATIP'' still works
(see 4/4 news).
[2] http://www.mobshop.com/cycles?cycle_id=224323sourceid=minidisc.org
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 6 April 2000
o Howard Gluckman finds the [1]Kenwood KMD-X92, their latest in-dash
MD receiver.
[1]
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/cat_detail.htm?p_Prod_ID=KMD%2DX92p_ProductDivision=Mobile+Electronicsp_ProductCategory=Mini+Discp_HotButton=p_SpeakerSize=p_View=cat_detail.htm
o Shawn Lin's [2]April Fools MZ-R110/120PDA has been commented upon
far and wide and reported by [3]Nanhuatech (Chinese) and [4]PC Watch
(Japanese). Gosh, do you think a company making one of these would
find them popular?
[2] http://www.minidisc.org/mz-r110pda.htm
[3] http://www.nanhuatech.com/features/DAILY/2405195471604.asp
[4] http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/article/2405/mobile46.htm
o T-Station reports on three boomboxes: the [5]Sony ZS-M75
([6]Japanese press release) with 2X CD/Tape-MD dubbing and
world-band FM section [this machine incorporates HCMS {high speed
copy management system}, preventing the same material from being
high speed dubbed more than once within a 1X period], the [7]Aiwa
CSD-MD22 ([8]English and [9]Japanese press releases) with world-band
FM, and the [10]Kenwood MDX-F1 (Japanese [11]page ).
[5] http://www.t-station.net/products/sony_zsm75.html
[6] http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/CorporateCruise/Press/23/00-0327/index.html
[7] http://www.t-station.net/products/aiwa_csd-md22.html
[8] http://www.aiwa.co.jp/english/exhibi/new_p2000/csd-md22e.html
[9] http://www.aiwa.co.jp/exhibi/new_prod/2000/csd-md22.htm
[10] http://www.t-station.net/products/kenwood_f1.html
[11] http://www.kenwood.co.jp/j/products/home_audio/rampage/mdx_f1.html
o David Pio finds a page describing how to [12]inexpensively modify a
Diamond MX300 sound card for TOSLink output.
[12] http://www.algonet.se/~cyrano/mx1.html
o Eric Feinstein recommends [13]adding non-skid feet to your portable.
[13] http://www.minidisc.org/trick_tips.html#nonskid
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 7 April 2000
o Gregory Chan has created an [1]MP3 to Minidisc on Macintosh
tutorial.
[1] http://MacOSPage.MadBee.com/archives/mp3toMD/mp3toMD.html
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 9 April 2000
o Microformat Wars part III: Aivar Grislis finds a [1]Wired article
covering the [2]DataPlay Disc, a tiny 500MB write-once medium
designed to hold music, books, games and photos.
[1] http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,35287,00.html
[2] http://www.dataplay.com
o [3]Kheops MiniDisc in Florida offers Hi-Space blanks with a credit
card payment option.
[3] http://www.kheopsglassart.com/minidisc/
o Ed Wong notes [4]BSW, a radio station supply house selling pro MD
equipment (Denon, Sony, Tascam, Yamaha).
[4] http://www.bswusa.com
Elitist Digital Audio Products at Proletarian Prices.
MD: Hi-Space MDs
Jack: Yes, Memorex minidisc are really poor on bass and high frequency... David: Incredible (very literally). MD is a digital storage medium. As long as ones stay ones and zeroes stay zeroes, it doesn't matter (and the disc doesn't know) whether they're part of the representation of a bass sound, a high frequency, or a middle frequency. What you said might be true of a recorder's ADC, or of a recorder or player's DAC, but it cannot apply to a digital storage medium. I am surprised that David fails to recognize why Memorex MDs sound so bad. A close examination of any Memorex MD will reveal that it is 0.02 mm thinner than other brands. This lack of space (or Hi-Space) seriously constricts frequency response at both ends of the spectrum. Hence, Memorex MDs have poor bass and treble response. In fact, those in the know feel they are only suitable for recording AM radio! Seriously, I'm a big fan of Hi-Space MDs. David is, of course, correct on all counts. I like Hi-Space MDs not only for their quality of construction, but also for their flip cases and inserts which allow you to write tons of info (if you care to do so) about the contents of the MiniDisc. Rob - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
