Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #644
Well, until yesterday I would have vouched for the fact that the MZ-R50 was the best portable MD that Sony had produced; however, during only the second time of using it to RECORD outside sounds since I've had it, ( I use a JB-920 for home recordings,) I discovered that it is not able to record. The "red" indicator light comes on, and on playback you can discern that a recording seems to be taking place, but no discernible recording is apparent. I have my fingers crossed that it is some switch that has been turned-off in error instead of something more seriously wrong with the innards. Anyone have any suggestions as to what needs to be done to pin-point where the fault really lies ? Thanks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (md-l-mimedigest) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:16:40 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: md-l-mimedigest V2 #644 From: "Bishop FPW" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 23:21:01 GMT Subject: Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50 From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] * mjarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 25 May 2000 | I have heard opinions that this model, | overall, was the best mini recorder | that Sony ever made. Any truth to this last statement? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Balance Recording levels
I couldn't see why not. There are inline attenuators out there, and it's just as easy to put one together using simple, decent quality components. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David W. Tamkin Sent: Sunday, 28 May 2000 1:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: MD: Balance Recording levels When [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked, The one thing ... is the lack of balance control either on playback or record. Are there any models out there that contain this feature? Tony Antoniou responded, | There are plenty of models that allow balance control when recording, but we | are talking about on analogue connections only and they're generally on | mid-high end decks, and not on portables. Since the controls are only for analog connections, perhaps there are in-line add-ons that can do it, like an in-line headphone volume control except that it would have individual controls for the two channels. There could be both 3.5mm stereo coaxial and dual-RCA models. If it has no power source of its own it could only soften and not boost, but if the incoming signal is loud enough to start that would work. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: reading the manual is no guarantee (was Sony MZ-R50)
On Sat, 27 May 2000, David W. Tamkin wrote: But there was a second time that manual end search bit me, and it could have happened while I still had no other MD hardware: I was doing some edits in the R3 and, having completed them, wanted to eject the disc. I missed the EJECT slide and slid RECORD instead, ruining the first couple seconds that followed the point of the last edit. (On a unit with automatic end search, that slip would have been non-destructive; it would have written into avail- able space, and then I could simply have erased the accidental recording.) Now, who would have expected that? Yes, I had read the manual, but all the manual said was to press END SEARCH before appending new material; nowhere did it say to press that key before ejecting a disc. Unless I am missing something, its seems to me that if you had hit eject like you intended to do, instead of record, there wouldn't be a problem. Why should the manual have instructions on "don't press RECORD instead of EJECT unless you have just hit END SEARCH"? fuzzymike - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Sharp Earphones
On Sat, 27 May 2000, Orhan Sancaktar wrote: This leads to a good question. What earphones should someone buy for the MD portable. I know the earbuds that came w/my MZ-R90 give barely above The MDRE888lp's from sony are the best sounding in-ear headphones I have ever used. Available from minidisco.com and direct from sony. price 69-79 dollars. This seems like a lot to spend on ear buds, but its not. People forget that speakers(headphones count too) are the most important part of a system, and as such you should be willing to spend a lot of money on them. My home theater, which includes a DVD player, Dolby Digital Reciever, MD recorder, 45 inch TV, and five speakers was %35 speaker in terms of cost. fuzzymike - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sharp Earphones
* finny [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 28 May 2000 | The MDRE888lp's from sony are the best sounding in-ear headphones I have | ever used. Available from minidisco.com and direct from sony. price | 69-79 dollars. This seems like a lot to spend on ear buds, but its not. There are better, but they cost a lot more. Etymotics, for example. | People forget that speakers(headphones count too) are the most important | part of a system, and as such you should be willing to spend a lot of | money on them. Well, no. Top of the line speakers driven by a mediocre amplifier is stupid. Those speakers will enunciate every flaw in the amp. On the other hand, a high-end amplifier will sound better than a mediocre amp when driving the same set of mediocre speakers, but those speakers will fail to utilize the full capability of the amp. The important thing is to strike a balance between components, mainly amplifier and speakers. I have a set of 888s. I like them. My experience with them is that they want more power than the average headphone amp is willing to provide. Case in point: the bass response on the MS-702 is strong, but not overpowering, without any "bass boost"; the MZ-R90 requires level 1 boost to achieve similar response, but trebble sounds a little "mushy". | My home theater, which includes a DVD player, Dolby Digital Reciever, MD | recorder, 45 inch TV, and five speakers was %35 speaker in terms of cost. This comparison makes no sense. The DVD player, the MD recorder, and the TV have little or no effect on how your speakers sound, and for all we know, you have an absolute rock-bottom Sony receiver in there driving a set of PSB Alphas. And we have no idea what the accoustics of your A/V room are like. And keep in mind that surround kits and stereo kits are very different configurations, because the speakers are intended for different purposes. So, there is more to it than "buy the most expensive speakers." -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: reading the manual is no guarantee (was Sony MZ-R50)
You must be a Sony engineer. G The point is, when a person is going to record, they should only have to hit RECORD, and the END SEARCH should not even have a function in record mode. 99% of the time, when a person is recording something, they have no intention of recording over the material they have already recorded. Most companies are smart enough to recognize that and take it into account, but not SOny. finny wrote: On Sat, 27 May 2000, David W. Tamkin wrote: But there was a second time that manual end search bit me, and it could have happened while I still had no other MD hardware: I was doing some edits in the R3 and, having completed them, wanted to eject the disc. I missed the EJECT slide and slid RECORD instead, ruining the first couple seconds that followed the point of the last edit. (On a unit with automatic end search, that slip would have been non-destructive; it would have written into avail- able space, and then I could simply have erased the accidental recording.) Now, who would have expected that? Yes, I had read the manual, but all the manual said was to press END SEARCH before appending new material; nowhere did it say to press that key before ejecting a disc. Unless I am missing something, its seems to me that if you had hit eject like you intended to do, instead of record, there wouldn't be a problem. Why should the manual have instructions on "don't press RECORD instead of EJECT unless you have just hit END SEARCH"? fuzzymike - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Atlanta.
Are there any other Minidisc People in Atlanta on this list? Yours, Dicky -- Richard Ian Träcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ain't no party like the Phat Rabbit Party 'cause the Phat Rabbit Party never stops ... " http://www.Headhunter.net/resumestv/0r/r07kt1mk71jwwj660r.htm?ShowRes http://classifieds.excite.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P61+C187+R1403052 http://www.bandtools.com/search_player_details.cfm?id=626 http://homepages.tesco.net/~xwizard/richard/ http://classifieds.excite.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P61+C303+R299898 http://profiles.yahoo.com/richard_of_atlanta http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Castro/3420/ ICQ #: 56224965 -*- Instant Messenger: bunnyphat - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #644
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === You do need to plug a microphone into it you know. They don't have built in mikes. jgvp wrote: Well, until yesterday I would have vouched for the fact that the MZ-R50 was the best portable MD that Sony had produced; however, during only the second time of using it to RECORD outside sounds since I've had it, ( I use a JB-920 for home recordings,) I discovered that it is not able to record. The "red" indicator light comes on, and on playback you can discern that a recording seems to be taking place, but no discernible recording is apparent. I have my fingers crossed that it is some switch that has been turned-off in error instead of something more seriously wrong with the innards. Anyone have any suggestions as to what needs to be done to pin-point where the fault really lies ? Thanks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (md-l-mimedigest) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:16:40 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: md-l-mimedigest V2 #644 From: "Bishop FPW" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 23:21:01 GMT Subject: Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50 From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] * mjarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 25 May 2000 | I have heard opinions that this model, | overall, was the best mini recorder | that Sony ever made. Any truth to this last statement? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sharp Earphones
Um. Im pretty familiar with the fact that there are lots of considerations for how a system is put together besides price of the speakers. My only point was that it isn't unreasonable to pay $80 for headphones when you have paid 250-350 for the md recorder, if you want it to sound good. That was the point of the home theatre analogy. You can spend money out the wazoo on separate preamps, amps, dvd player or whatever, but if you hook it up to a set of $200 dollar speakers, your money is wasted. Likewise if you buy a sony mzr90 and use the headphones it comes with, you aren't getting the full sound quality of which the unit is capable. On 28 May 2000, Stainless Steel Rat wrote: Well, no. Top of the line speakers driven by a mediocre amplifier is stupid. Those speakers will enunciate every flaw in the amp. On the other hand, a high-end amplifier will sound better than a mediocre amp when driving the same set of mediocre speakers, but those speakers will fail to utilize the full capability of the amp. The important thing is to strike a balance between components, mainly amplifier and speakers. Fair enough, but a 400 dollar amp will make a 6000 dollar speaker system sound a heck of a lot better than a 6000 dollar amp and a 400 dollar speaker set up. therefore, speakers are more important to invest money into. Obviously, you need the other equipment to be of good quality, but I don't think I'm alone in thinking that speakers should be a high percentage of total dollars spent, and that they have the highest effect on sound quality. | My home theater, which includes a DVD player, Dolby Digital Reciever, MD | recorder, 45 inch TV, and five speakers was %35 speaker in terms of cost. This comparison makes no sense. The DVD player, the MD recorder, and the TV have little or no effect on how your speakers sound, and for all we know, you have an absolute rock-bottom Sony receiver in there driving a set of PSB Alphas. And we have no idea what the accoustics of your A/V room If I had a rock bottom reciever and PSB alphas, the percentage would be a lot higher, yes? What do the acoustics of my room have to do with speaker quality? And you don't think that a Sony MDSJB930 is going to sound better than a MZE33 plugged into a home system? The DVD player and the TV don't affect sound quality, assuming digital connections, which is why I spent more money on the speakers, than on some ridiculous high end dvd player. The comparison makes perfect sense: you can't fill a room with expensive gear and expect it to sound good, unless you have invested in a good set of speakers. Which was the point of my post: namely, get a good set of headphones and you will be happy you spent the extra money. fuzzymike - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Sharp Earphones
"Orhan Sancaktar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This leads to a good question. What earphones should someone buy for the MD portable. I know the earbuds that came w/my MZ-R90 give barely above average sound, and are truly the weakest part of the sound production. I have a pair of around-your-ear Koss that sound much better. Does anyone w/some audiophile expertise know which would be the best? I'd prefer not to have to run around w/my bulky Koss's. This thread has been bandied about before, so you'll get a lot of suggestions. What you (and Will) get will ultimately depend on how much you want to spend and what type of 'phones you want (size, portability, activity level, etc.) Probably the best source of good headphones anywhere is HeadRoom: http://headroom.headphone.com/ProductsHeadphones/HeadphoneList.asp They have reviews and info on a bunch of different "high-quality" headphones. If it's good or good for the money, they sell it. I personally wouldn't buy a headphone they didn't sell. There are a couple other good sites for info, though: http://www.headwize.com/ non-profit org http://members.aol.com/headphone2/ actually a store, but has some good info http://www.goodcans.com/ GoodCans headphone reviews (I think the above two are actually the same company) Finally, HeadRoom has a discussion board and marketplace: http://208.168.127.243:8080/~headroom My opinions? $30: Koss KSC/35, the best $30 you can spend on 'phones. They don't have a headband, but they aren't "plugs." They clip onto each ear. Great sound, great bass, and perfect for the weak amps in portables. Also my favorite for active use, since they can be used when running, exercising, etc. $50: Koss Porta Pro, big brother of the KSC/35. More traditional form with a headband, and a bit better sound. Although there is also now a new model, the SportaPro that fits in between. I found the Koss line reviewed at http://listeningstation.safeshopper.com/27/cat27.htm?228 $70: Grado SR60, probably the best sub-$100 deal in audio. Not the most comfortable 'phones, but the sound is amazing. The great thing about the SR60 is that they are one of the only (if not the only) "audiophile" headphones that are efficient enough to be fully driven by the weak headphone amps found on portables (although Will's Sharp has a much bigger amp than a comparable Sony model). On the other hand, with the SR60 you're getting into the "not-as-active" headphones -- you wouldn't want to go jogging with them. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: reading the manual is no guarantee (was Sony MZ-R50)
finny wrote: I guess I was just confused as to what the complaint was. I agree, end search is a pretty strange thing, and I have recorded over stuff by accident as well. WHich is why I prefer to do my recording with a home deck, since the reocrding and editing features are so much easier to use, and the TOC only updates when you want it to... Decks are great, I had a Sony 510 and a Sony 520. Put they sure are a pain in the butt to lug around to make a live recording. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Atlanta.
i used to live in atlanta, does that count :P - Original Message - From: Richard Ian Träcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: MD: Atlanta. Are there any other Minidisc People in Atlanta on this list? Yours, Dicky -- Richard Ian Träcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ain't no party like the Phat Rabbit Party 'cause the Phat Rabbit Party never stops ... " http://www.Headhunter.net/resumestv/0r/r07kt1mk71jwwj660r.htm?ShowRes http://classifieds.excite.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P61+C187+R1403052 http://www.bandtools.com/search_player_details.cfm?id=626 http://homepages.tesco.net/~xwizard/richard/ http://classifieds.excite.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P61+C303+R299898 http://profiles.yahoo.com/richard_of_atlanta http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Castro/3420/ ICQ #: 56224965 -*- Instant Messenger: bunnyphat - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: New Subscription...
I have now subscribe to the mailing list with our business email... I hope it will be more appreciate like this... Pierre Forest, Kheops Minidisc (http://www.kheopsminidisc.com) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #645
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === When recording the red light is constant, the record level indicator shows two bars only, and the disk icon rotates. On playback there is a "white noise" sound until the end of the recording and then no sound at all. I have tried it with another Sony cardioid mike that I have had for years and get the exact same results. I even tried a new Sony "74" MiniDisk for a recording and.still the same result. All signs are indicating that somehow the "50" has lost its recording capabilities. Lord only knows what Sony will charge in the way of repairs. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (md-l-mimedigest) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 13:28:51 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: md-l-mimedigest V2 #645 ok, some of these may be obvious questions but for the sake of troubleshooting bear with them. was the "red" indicator light solid or flashing flashing is standby mode, use puase to drop to record. was the mic plugged in all the way? is your mic working correctly? Try it in another device to be certain. Beyond that (like I said probably kind of obvious) you might have a problem internal on the unit. (unless you had your record levels set wrong, or used line, vs. mic port when recording) If none of these appears to be the answer, I'd suggest taking it in for service. I always do level chheck when recording (obviously not bootlegging concenerts) to make sure stuff is working. no idea if this helps, but hope it at least gave you a few things to check. If you're solid on all of this it might be time to get the unit ot a service center. =Jeffrey - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
