MD: rec-pause + koss eq-30

2000-06-05 Thread Luke Rayner


hi all,

so IMO the best options for rec-pause(or lack of it are)

1. slide for immediate recording, OR slide and hold for record-pause(like 
the Aiwa models)
2. slide for immediate recording
3. rec-pause with time-machine recording(even just 2 secs, but this may have 
an adverse effect on battery life)
4. option stored in memory allowing choice of immediate rec OR 
record-pause(although as stated this can lead to confusion)
5. rec-pause

but i guess the best option depends whether there is AGC...but the Aiwa 
option is by far the best

on another note, has anyone got the Koss EQ-30(a mini/portable/handheld 
graphic equaliser)? is it worth the $30US?

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RE: MD: Classical Music - CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Simon Barnes


David W. Tamkin wrote:

 pre-mastered MDs have to be at least as good and possibly 
 better, since their ATRAC algorithms can be fine-tuned and adapted to
do the 
 best job possible for the type of music being mastered

This is a nice idea, but is there any evidence it can actually be done ? Do
commercial recorders have a knob marked "classical/rock/country etc mode" ?
Given that the compression is based on psychoaccoustic measurements, has
anyone actually investigated how the type of program material would affect
the optimum encoding ?

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Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Sean Buckingham


On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:05:01 -0700 Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 some peices.  However..the compression systems are getting better all 
 the time. I think all this only applies to recordings you make yourself 
 though...
 
 Nope, it applies to pre-recorded MDs as well. An MD still has the same 
 capacity, whether pre-recorded or "made at home," so it is subject to the 
 same limitations. What Sean said about the differences between classical 
 an "other" music is for the most part correct, though. It's more 
 difficult for MD to compress classical music without losing very audible 
 parts of the content.

yeah..I'm only spewing stuff that I've read from other places, so forgive 
me if I'm just perpetuating lies LIES here.. erm.. it gives me a misguided 
(and incorrect) sense of importance..  ANYway..  

Whilst I would have little technical comprehension of how discs could be 
coded differently yet still read on the same machines, surely this is what 
is happening? I mean, how can manufacturers have different ATRAC systems, 
and release different versions of them with new MD models, and yet the 
discs can all be read by any MD machine (well..supposedly)? Isn't this 
something to do with the way that ATRAC bit allocation assigns varying bits 
to blocks depending on the complexity of each..er..part (you can tell I'm 
floundering here, yes?)? 

I've just picked up this info on this site..
http://www.minidisc.org/minidisc_faq.html#Q5


13.Does ATRAC have "forward compatibility," or is it a static 
algorithm? Does the ATRAC version affect the quality of the 
recording or the playback? 

The encoder (recording) side of ATRAC offers room for improvement 
from one generation to the next (specifically, in the decision 
about how to allocate encoding bits so as to best match human 
psycho-acoustic properties). Thus, MD recordings made on a newer 
machine with a better ATRAC encoder will sound better than old 
recordings, even when played back on an old machine. 

The decoder (playback) side of ATRAC has a fixed structure, and 
though ATRAC chips are all generally expected to decode with nearly 
the same quality, increases in digital signal processing accuracy 
may allow slight audio quality improvements (if those improvements 
have not already been made to modern ATRAC chips). 

Endofquote

Doesn't this mean that if you recorded some classical music from a CD 
(say) using second generation ATRAC, and then you bought a pre-recorded MD 
of the same music which had used 3rd generation coding, that the latter 
would sound better, regardless of which ATRAC the player had on board?

HELP!

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Re: MD: Beeps and more...

2000-06-05 Thread David Witzany


I've checked these "special" cables out a bit more and, while they're still
analog, they plug into your sound card's USB port, which the manufacturers
claim leads to the improved S/N ratio.  On the other hand, several companies
have these USB-miniplug cables for under $20, so even if I buy the argument, I
don't have to buy the Xitel cable...

Thanks for all of the responses on this question.  Are there any thoughts out
there on the Aiwa machines, as far as their sturdiness and quality of recorded
sound are concerned?  (And I'd still like to know whether you can turn the
beep off on them...)

Thanks again.

Dave.

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Re: MD: Beeps and more...

2000-06-05 Thread Sean Buckingham


 Are there any thoughts out
 there on the Aiwa machines, as far as their sturdiness and quality of recorded
 sound are concerned?  (And I'd still like to know whether you can turn the
 beep off on them...)

How many other machines beep? beeping is bad.

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Re: MD: Classical Music - CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* Simon Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Mon, 05 Jun 2000
| This is a nice idea, but is there any evidence it can actually be done ?

Sony ATRAC 4 vs. 4.5.  The difference is primarilly in tweaks made to the
psychoaccoustic model used by the encoder.  It is most definitely possible
to tweak the model for different types of music.
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Re: MD: Trace and Map URLs

2000-06-05 Thread Dan Frakes


On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 14:58:07 -0400, "J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jim Coon, do u know a program for Mac that makes the same thing than
 VisualRoute?
Maybe a PC emulator?  Will Ping Plotter work? I am sure there is
something similar to tracert.  Tracert is a built in dos command and it
goes along with ping.  you go to a dos prompt and type

There are lots of Mac traceroute utilities. The best 'net diagnostic tool 
is probably IPNetMonitor:

IPNetMonitor:
http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipmonitor.html


However, the newer versions of WhatRoute do have the map representation 
of the traceroute:

WhatRoute:
http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~bryanc/


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Re: MD: Classical Music - CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* Simon Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Mon, 05 Jun 2000
| What, one is classical and the other not ?

No, one is just "better".  ATRAC 4 is what is in consumer grade MD
equipment, 4.5 is in Sony's "home studio" grade equipment.  What is in pro
studio mastering equipment is quite possibly something entirely different.
I see no reason why a pro mastering deck couldn't have a toggle or dial or
something, but I do not know if any actually do.

IOW, yes it can be done, no I do not know if anyone has done it.
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Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD

2000-06-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* Sean Buckingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Mon, 05 Jun 2000
| Whilst I would have little technical comprehension of how discs could be
| coded differently yet still read on the same machines, surely this is what
| is happening?

Not even close.

What is different is the psychoaccoustic model used for the encoding
process.  The way ATRAC functions is that it takes an input stream and
breaks it up into a number of bands, each of which has a fixed data width.
The first thing that happens is that the psychoaccoustic model is used to
determine how many bands or channels are allocated to different frequency
ranges.  That is, if a chunk of music has a lot of high frequency sounds
but few low frequency sounds, more bands will be allocated to the high
frequency ranges and fewer to the low frequency ranges.  More bands means
greater resolution and fidelity.  Once bands have been allocated, each band 
is processed with the psychoaccoustic model to remove sounds that cannot be 
heard.

Improvements to ATRAC are really improvements to the psychoaccoustic models
used for encoding.  The "format" of data on a disc is identical; the
difference is in which bits are recorded and which are not.  And as the
psychoaccoustic model has absolutely nothing to do with playback, there is
100% forward and backward compatability.
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Re: MD: Portable recorders

2000-06-05 Thread Sean Buckingham


On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:55:51 +0100 (BST) Sean Buckingham 

 Personally I prefer Aiwa's way of doing things, but I'm convinced about the 
 build quality of their units..

OBVIOUSLY, idiot that I am, I meant to say "..but I'm NOT convinced about 
the build quality.."

I will shut up now.
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Re: MD: Beeps and more...

2000-06-05 Thread Jimmy and Johnny need to stop eating worlds and sweeping legs


Yeah, all I needed was a stereo miniplug to two quarter inch mono plugs. it was
all good. The radio shack shielded gold plug cost me $7.

The quality of the cables does make a  difference in some cases. Monster cable
is waaay expensive. I sing for a band and I went through two $20 microphone cords
with in a month during performances. Since they were lifetime guaranteed, I got
em replaced free, but I do a lot of microphone tricks involving spinning and
throwing and catching the mic so it was time to find a new cord. I got a Monster
Cable mic cord for $50 and I could probably tow a car with it and it would still
work. It's shielded to keep extra noise out and sounds great.

joe.

"J. Coon" wrote:

 David Witzany wrote:
  One last question, not directly related to any of the above.  A recent post
  complained about the amount of noise added to music when recorded off of a
 computer.

 NO! Contrary to what the audio stores tell you, it isn't the cost or the
 quality of the cables, (unless they are extreemly junkie).  The qusetion
 is do you have the right type of cables.  I bet the guy that was having
 trouble recording from a stereo sound card to a mono recorder, just
 changed to stereo cable instead of a mono cable, and I bet it didn't
 cost $50.  If it did, he was robbed.

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MD: Track marks problem linked with digital recording

2000-06-05 Thread jeanmougin


Some days ago, I made a digital copy of the Corrs MTV Unplugged album. I

noticed that the total recorded time on MD was inferior to the total
time of the CD. When I played the MD, I noticed that a lot of the tracks

were often amputed of 1 second or 2 (even more sometimes). The result is
that it's quite unpleasant
to listen cause it is a live concert. When you listen to the CD, there's

no interruption in the disc (especially between the songs where you hear

the audience). On the MD, at the end of some tracks, you can hear the
audience but it's suddenly cut by the beginning of the new track.

To solve this problem, I decided to make an analog copy. Cause I use
sync-rec and due to the fact that there's no interrution in sound, I had

a 64 min 12 sec long track. Then I put the track marks manually (very
easy with the jog wheel of the Sharp 722).

Is there a solution to make a digital recording without track marks?




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Re: MD: A Reason not to Buy Sharp 722?

2000-06-05 Thread James S. Lee


Richard Wright wrote:

 I bought a 722 last November, basically because I wanted a 702 but couldn't
 get one at the time in the UK (Richer Sounds have since started doing
 refurb'ed 701/2s).
snip

Thanks to all who answered my query about the Sharp MS-722. I have been
convinced of the "correctness" of my inclinations. I am buying the 722.

Jim Lee
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MD: [Q] Sony RM-X91 compatibility with MDX-C8970

2000-06-05 Thread Dmitry Bugrimenko


Hi !

Do you have an idea about Sony RM-X91 infrared remote control is compatible or not 
with MDX-C8970 Mobile ES player/changer controller? I was trying to search different 
sources without any luck so far.

Thanks,
Dmitry. 

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Re: MD: Portable recorders

2000-06-05 Thread Sean Buckingham


On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:34:58 EDT Not Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This may seem like a ridiculous question, but do the portable units have 
 a recording level control? (I have seen analog recorders that use a built in 
 limiter rather than provide recording level controls.)


Hi.. there's just been a 'message-thread' about this (ish).. I wish it was 
a stupid question, if only there was some standard among the manufacturers 
(blah blah moan moan.,.)

anyway, ..I think the upshot of the discussion was this:

Sony machines have both an Automatic Gain control and Manual recording 
levels (which I would expect to work well, seeing as it's sony..). The 
slight downside is that the machine has to be paused in order to adjust the 
levels..I guess this is just a personal taste issue really..

Sharp machines only have manual recording levels, no AGC. Whether you can 
adjust 'on the fly' I'm not sure..

Aiwa machines have Manual levels and AGC, and you can adjust the levels 
during recording. I'm not sure I'd expect the quality of the AGC to be as 
good as Sonys, but that's just heresay (heresy?!) on my part..

Personally I prefer Aiwa's way of doing things, but I'm convinced about the 
build quality of their units..

I'm done.
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Re: MD: A Reason not to Buy Sharp 722?

2000-06-05 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* "James S. Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Mon, 05 Jun 2000
| Thanks to all who answered my query about the Sharp MS-722. I have been
| convinced of the "correctness" of my inclinations. I am buying the 722.

By the way, I just bought a 722 myself, a step up from my 702.
How's that for putting my money where my mouth is.
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MD: power sources

2000-06-05 Thread Matthew J. Updike


Hi md'ers,
I will eventually have to get a replacement Li-Ion rechargable for my sharp
702 so I'm wondering where I can get one for less than the $50 Sharp
charges on their website.  Also, where can I buy a replacement for the AC
adapter?  I've rolled over my adapter a few times with my chair at work and
it's getting a bit touchy.
thanks,
matt  
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MD: Microphone preamp II

2000-06-05 Thread pupu


Oh, BTW, this is for a stereo mic - the Audio Technica AT822.

Thanks.

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Re: MD: Compression on Sharp-831

2000-06-05 Thread Antonio Banderas


Luke I have limited experience with Sony md's. I heard one in a store
playing some RB. But I have an 831 and my coworker have a 722 and we both
love sharp's quality. I listen to Classical, Rock, Pop, alternative, and a
little rap and the highs and bass and overall quality of the sound is near
cd quality. I find it depends on the recording itself. If you download mp3's
from the internet (like Napster.com) there is degradation in sound quality.


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MD: Where to buy pre-recorded MDs

2000-06-05 Thread J. C. R. Davis


Now that Best Buy has sold us out, where is a good place -- on-line or
physical (esp. in Houston, TX) -- to buy pre-recorded MDs? Are they
available at Best Buy's $9.99 price tag?

J. C. R. Davis
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Re: MD: end search again and again

2000-06-05 Thread J. Coon


Jim Gray wrote:
  But more importantly: does anyone at Sony even KNOW how much people hate
 it, or are we all making a lot of noise in the wilderness?  

I suspect they listen to Gaz and the rest of us are just a "blowin in
the wind", so to speak.   If they had any sense, or actually used their
own decks and then switched to one of their recorders, they would have
found out first hand what the problem is and would have changed it.  

I love my Sony deck and I love my Sony portable, but I sure hate the 
problems that END SEARCH has caused.  I wrecked several irreplaceable
recordings because of it, and there really is no way around it except to
immediately copy your new MD and use the copy so you have a back up when
you lose the first one.  Except the SCMS causes problems with that idea
and also I have lost recording 5 minutes after I made them, because I
was so anxious to see how the recording came out and I listened to a
song  immediately after it was recorded, stopped it in a hurry to record
the next song, and wrote over the last half of the first song ruining
it. 

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MD: Multiple postings Was (end search petition)

2000-06-05 Thread Graham Baker


Sorry for the multiple postings - these were posted on 1 June but just
turned up today!
That's worse than snail mail...
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  Yes, how about the ability to be able to adjust manual record levels
without having
  to pause recording first?
  IMHO, this Sony mis-feature is almost as daft as the end search
button...


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RE: MD: Bad Ebay seller alert: BECKHAMDEE

2000-06-05 Thread Antonio Banderas


In regards to this dishonest seller, this is just not fair. I too am an ebay
user for some time. I know of many who prey on the needs and wants of
others. Something must be done. It takes a moment to register as an Ebay
user and a second to leave this creep a bad review to warn others of his
dishonesty. Let's all leave him like 100.

Z


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Re: MD: Service mode R55!!!!!

2000-06-05 Thread J. Coon


Now where have I heard this story before?  Maybe there should be more
warning at the site that give service mode isntructions.  

Caution, use of this feature will cause irreparable damage to your MD
unit unless you know what you are doing before youstart.

Hope someone has an answer for him.  

Michael Lewis wrote:
 
 Help I was in the service mode on the R55 and changed the MECHA setting. I
 did not mean too all I want to do is to get it back to the default setting
 so I can open my mini disc again.
 
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MD: [Fwd: Sony R5-ST]

2000-06-05 Thread J. Coon


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On behalf of Jim 


Isn't this an old thread?


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MD: MUSIC AND PC GURU'S

2000-06-05 Thread Antonio Banderas


I have been reading these posts in this digest daily with out fail. I can
tell there are some of you who are involved in music professionally. This
question is for you and anyone who may have this particular knowledge. I
have been learning to play the guitar for some time now. I have been
converting all my classical and pop cd's to md. I want to go further. I want
to take a track and remove the vocals and or lead guitar and or the base
guitar and or the rhythm guitar leaving only the drums. Then copying the
final product to my md for easy transport to friends garage to play along
with our favorites tunes. Of course all this with without paying for studio
time at a professional recording studio. Is there software I can buy that
will allow me to do that?



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Re: MD: Beeps and more...

2000-06-05 Thread J. Coon


Jimmy and Johnny need to stop eating worlds and sweeping legs wrote:
 The quality of the cables does make a  difference in some cases. snip... I sing for 
a band and I went through two $20 microphone cords
 with in a month during performances. Since they were lifetime guaranteed, I got
 em replaced free, but I do a lot of microphone tricks involving spinning and
 throwing and catching the mic so it was time to find a new cord. 

Sounds like cord abuse to meG  You will go through mikes to from
dropping them.  

The sound quality is still in the cheaper cable, even if it doesn't
stand up to the abuse.  

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Re: MD: Beeps and more...

2000-06-05 Thread J. Coon


David Witzany wrote:
  Thanks for all of the responses on this question.  Are there any thoughts out
 there on the Aiwa machines, as far as their sturdiness and quality of recorded

It seems like I heard disparaging remarks about them a year a or so
ago.  However, I am not sure if it was from a reliable source.  I
haven't heard much lately so I would assume the first person that
complained was just shooting off his mouth, so to speak.


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Re: MD: Sony MDSJE530 Richer Sounds

2000-06-05 Thread Simon Gardner


I am thinking of getting the Sony MDSJE530 from Richer Sounds.

I was wondering if anyone has had any good or bad experiences with the deck
or Richer Sounds.

Richer Sounds are great *if* they have the stock - always ring and check 
first (they'll usually offer to put items aside for you). If you've not 
been to one before, they're totally different from most hifi dealers; tiny 
shops that can get pretty crowded but the staff are usually really friendly 
and know their stuff. Many of them only have one demo room though so book 
in advance if you want to try the unit out (and try to go midweek).

Just about all of the hifi in my household came from them, including my 
MZ-R55 and my brother's Pioneer MDJ-707 deck, and I'll certainly go on 
using them in the future. Check What Hifi? magazine before you go - Richer 
Sounds often carry adverts in there with prices that are lower than usual.

As for the deck - I don't own one but a friend does, they're very happy 
with it. Good range of sockets, excellent facilities and it's been 
well-recieved by the hifi press. Sony seem to have ironed out the problems 
that previous 5xx decks did.

hth,

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Re: MD: Beeps and more...

2000-06-05 Thread David W. Tamkin


David Witzany asked,

| I think _all_ portables beep; the question is how many let you disable the
| beep, and if you turn the beep off, does it stay off between discs and when
| you change batteries?

The Aiwa AM-F70 allows turning the beep off, and it stays off when you
switch discs; but like the person who told you about the 722, I don't know
if the setting holds if you remove and reinsert (or replace) the battery.

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