MD: Help! How do I sync record?

2000-12-08 Thread m o


Hi,
 
I have a Hoontech SB DB III connected to my SB Live
Platinum.  From that I have a TOSLink optical audio
cable connected to the optical in on my Sony MDS-SD1
home minidisc deck.
 
I can not figure out how to get the MDS-SD1 to
"sync" record. Currently, it only starts recording
when I physically press the record button (on the
MDS-SD1), and only stops when I press the stop button
(on the MDS-SD1).
 
Track marks *are* inserted using the 2-second Winamp
plugin.
 
So to record now I have to have to start the audio
on my computer, then press record on the MDS-SD1, then
wait around and press the stop button on the MDS-SD1
when the audio is done.
 
Is it possible to "sync" record with my setup?  So
that the MDS-SD1 automatically starts recording when
I start playing music on my computer and stops
recording when I stop playing music on my computer? 
 
Thanks,
Mo


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MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread Simon Mackay


Hi everyone!

I asked JB HiFi about whether they have Sony MDS-JE640 MD decks in store and
they told me that the moment they get these decks in store, they sell out
very quickly. They even have told me that the local Sony distributors even
have ran out of machines to supply as "general stock". I often suspect that
the machines that are lingering in stores are the demonstrators which are
used by those stores who won't sell display or demonstrator units to
customers unless the unit is a superseded model.

The reason that these MDLP-capable decks have sold out very quickly is
because they offer MDLP abilities along with essential "presentation-audio"
features like fade-start and fade-stop during playback; and "auto-pause"
which stops the machine at the end of each track (very important for
musical-accompaniment use, drama and the like). MDLP works hand-in-glove
with MD's abilities in presentation audio because you can store the
equivalent of five CDs; 6-8 vinyl LPs or at least 80 standard-length songs
on one 80-minute MD when recorded in LP4. This amounts to lots of space
saved in transporting and storing your "presentation-audio". I was told that
a DJ could carry a small satchel full of music that would take up the
equivalent of a car trunk full of vinyl stored in milk crates for example.
MDLP will bring about the fact that this small satchel or gig bag will hold
twice or four times the equivalent -- bring on the flexibility and variety
for performances.

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread J. Coon



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yes, but how does it sound? Can you edit it as closely as a regular MD?  

Simon Mackay wrote:
 
 and "auto-pause"
 which stops the machine at the end of each track (very important for
 musical-accompaniment use, drama and the like). MDLP works hand-in-glove
 with MD's abilities in presentation audio because you can store the
 equivalent of five CDs; 6-8 vinyl LPs or at least 80 standard-length songs
 on one 80-minute MD when recorded in LP4. This amounts to lots of space
 saved in transporting and storing your "presentation-audio". I was told that
 a DJ could carry a small satchel full of music that would take up the
 equivalent of a car trunk full of vinyl stored in milk crates for example.
 MDLP will bring about the fact that this small satchel or gig bag will hold
 twice or four times the equivalent -- bring on the flexibility and variety
 for performances.
 
 With regards,
 
 Simon Mackay
 
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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread Ed Heckman



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At 12/8/00 8:27 AM, J. Coon wrote:

yes, but how does it sound? Can you edit it as closely as a regular MD?  

Here's the relevant portion from a message I posted a little over two 
months ago:

Last night I spent a couple of hours checking out the sound quality on my 
R900 and comparing it to my R50. To do this, I recorded "The throne room 
and end title" from the Star Wars suite digitally to a disc on the R50, 
then moved the disc to the R900 and recorded it again using standard 
stereo and LP2 modes. Then I listened to all 4 recordings through the 
R900 using my Sony NC10 earbuds. (The CD was played through the R900 with 
the R900 paused in record mode.)

On a scale of 1-10 with the CD being placed at 10, this is how I would 
rank the sound quality of the various recordings:

Recorded on R50:  9.5
R900 stereo:  9.8
R900 LP2: 9.2

I didn't specifically test the LP4 mode in this manner, but I have used 
it. I would probably rate it somewhere around 7.6.

I should note that it took very, very careful listening with my eyes 
closed and as little outside noise as possible for me to be able to hear 
the differences between the 4 versions. I would say that under normal 
listening conditions there would be no detectable differences between the 
recordings.

HTH.



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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread Jeanmougin


In the normal (SP) mode, you record 60, 74 and 80 minutes of stereo music. You
also have a LP mode that doubles the record capacity but the sound is monaural
not stereo.
New MD products have normal mode, mono LP mode and MDLP. MDLP consists in two
new modes: recordind durationx2 and x4 in STEREO!
The "normal" or SP mode encodes music at 292 kbp/s. If you want to increase the
recording time, your data must be more compressed. In LP2, data is encoded at
131 kbp/s. In LP4, at 66 kbp/s. You notice that LP2 isn't exactly the half of
SP (292/2=146) and LP4 isn't the 1/4 of SP (292/4=73).
The remaining bytes are used to allow backward compatibility. Non-MDLP products
won't read MDLP tracks but will be able to edit them.

In SP mode, you record in true stereo at 292 kbp/s= near-CD quality (maybe more
but it's another debate).
In LP2, you still record in stereo at 131 kbp/s = loss of quality
In LP4, you record at 66 kbp/s in JOINT-STEREO. First, your bitrate is very low
(encode a song in MP3 format at this bitrate and listen). Two, this is
joint-stereo. To gain place, LP4 searches for similarities in the stereo
channels and encode them in one step. AS a result, you will have a bad sound
due to a big compression (66 kbp/s) and joint-stereo (the channels are mixed
together).

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 equivalent of a car trunk full of vinyl stored in milk crates for example.
 MDLP will bring about the fact that this small satchel or gig bag will hold
 twice or four times the equivalent -- bring on the flexibility and variety
 for performances.
 
 With regards,
 
 Simon Mackay

 Mmm I have some catching up to do
 this is the first time I heard of MDLP.
 How does it work exactly.
 different pitch smaller pits ??

 Bryan
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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread David W. Tamkin


Bryan asked,

| Mmm I have some catching up to do this is the first time I heard of MDLP.
| How does it work exactly.  different pitch smaller pits ??

No.  Best answer I can give is to refer you to the MDLP FAQ at
http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html.  That explains most of it.

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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread David W. Tamkin


Jeanmougin wrote,

| In the normal (SP) mode, you record 60, 74 and 80 minutes of stereo music.
| You also have a LP mode that doubles the record capacity but the sound is
| monaural not stereo.

and 

| New MD products have normal mode, mono LP mode and MDLP.

It is not a good idea to call the regular mono mode "LP".  That not only con-
fuses it with LP2 and LP4 but moreover it is misleading about the bit rate
and misrepresentative of the way the mode is marked in the TOC.  Furthermore,
it implies that non-LP units wouldn't support regular mono, while in fact
nearly all of them do.

The regular mono mode is part of SP.  It doubles the capacity by using two
channels' space for one monaural channel at the same bit rate as SP stereo.

SP mono could be called "EP"; it is the extended-play form of SP, just as LP4
is the extended-play form of LP.  The regular-play counterparts are SP stereo
and LP2, respectively, and their bit settings in the status word reflect that: 
bit 2 is on for SP and off for LP, while bit 1 is on for regular play and off
for extended play.  So, if pre-emphasis is off and thus bit 0 is off, the low
byte of the status word will be 6 for SP stereo, 4 for SP mono, 2 for LP2,
and 0 for LP4.  (Bit 3 is always 0.)

| You also have a LP mode that doubles the record capacity but the sound is
| monaural not stereo.

No, you also have an SP mono mode that doubles the recording capacity.

| New MD products have normal mode, mono LP mode and MDLP.

No, new MD products have SP stereo, SP mono, LP2, and LP4 modes.  Mono is not
LP.

| The "normal" or SP mode encodes music at 292 kbp/s.

SP mono is also at 292 kb/s; again, it should not be called "LP".

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MD: Sony ATRAC3 software

2000-12-08 Thread Howard Chu


In the 9/9 1999 entry of "News" on the minidisc.org site is a note:

: Bryan Mo discovers Sony's ATRAC3 page featuring a downloadable player and
song clips encoded at various bit rates (you can also register to get an
encoder).

Did anyone download this software? Going to the page now says "these
contents are under construction" and there nothing available to download. If
you saw this early on and got a copy, can you please send it to me? Thanks.

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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread Brent Harding



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I know in my area there's only a small amount to choose from in minidisc
technology. My computer hard drive is too slow to edit audio with, it takes
longer than real time to cut 5 seconds out of something, maybe up to 2
minutes. This was when I downloaded sound forge xp which I lost in a goof
up that required a disk format, one of those where I had access to an ftp
site for only a limited time before it expired. I'm sure disk speed has
everything to do with it, but I can't find cheap extremely fast drives that
can reduce the edit time.
It's mostly what I find at best buy or circuit city that seems not to give
many choices of what to get. My system won't hold the gigs of ram needed to
record 3 or four hours at a time, as after 15 minutes things are starting
to crash. Is there common to find recorders that record for a few hours on
a disk, or that can change disks automatically for recording?
At 07:58 PM 12/8/00 +1100, you wrote:

Hi everyone!

I asked JB HiFi about whether they have Sony MDS-JE640 MD decks in store and
they told me that the moment they get these decks in store, they sell out
very quickly. They even have told me that the local Sony distributors even
have ran out of machines to supply as "general stock". I often suspect that
the machines that are lingering in stores are the demonstrators which are
used by those stores who won't sell display or demonstrator units to
customers unless the unit is a superseded model.

The reason that these MDLP-capable decks have sold out very quickly is
because they offer MDLP abilities along with essential "presentation-audio"
features like fade-start and fade-stop during playback; and "auto-pause"
which stops the machine at the end of each track (very important for
musical-accompaniment use, drama and the like). MDLP works hand-in-glove
with MD's abilities in presentation audio because you can store the
equivalent of five CDs; 6-8 vinyl LPs or at least 80 standard-length songs
on one 80-minute MD when recorded in LP4. This amounts to lots of space
saved in transporting and storing your "presentation-audio". I was told that
a DJ could carry a small satchel full of music that would take up the
equivalent of a car trunk full of vinyl stored in milk crates for example.
MDLP will bring about the fact that this small satchel or gig bag will hold
twice or four times the equivalent -- bring on the flexibility and variety
for performances.

With regards,

Simon Mackay

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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

2000-12-08 Thread Dan Frakes



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Ed Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then I listened to all 4 recordings through the R900 using my Sony 
NC10 earbuds. (The CD was played through the R900 with the R900 
paused in record mode.)

I should note that it took very, very careful listening with my eyes 
closed and as little outside noise as possible for me to be able to 
hear the differences between the 4 versions. I would say that under 
normal listening conditions there would be no detectable differences 
between the recordings.

Thanks for that, Ed. Although I'd be interested to hear the same 
comparison with some high quality, non-earbud headphones.
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Re: MD: Sony ATRAC3 software

2000-12-08 Thread Brent Harding



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I'd like to try this too, if the encoder was free, I'd like to play with
it, compare it to mp3's I already have, if I like it good enough, and
winamp had a pluggin, I'd switch to it.
At 03:22 PM 12/8/00 -0800, you wrote:

In the 9/9 1999 entry of "News" on the minidisc.org site is a note:

: Bryan Mo discovers Sony's ATRAC3 page featuring a downloadable player and
song clips encoded at various bit rates (you can also register to get an
encoder).

Did anyone download this software? Going to the page now says "these
contents are under construction" and there nothing available to download. If
you saw this early on and got a copy, can you please send it to me? Thanks.

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Re: MD: Sony ATRAC3 software

2000-12-08 Thread Matt Wall


I dl'ed the player a long time ago and some samples, was too lazy or
something at the time to register to get the encoder, it really wouldn't
have mattered anyway because the player expired a while back.  i still have
it and if i set my computer's clock back a few years it appears to work.
IMO it sounds pretty good (a lot better than mp3) but i really dont know
what good a player is that you have to turn back your clock to get it to
work.  if there is sufficent requests for this thing and someone want's to
put it up on thier web site along with the samples i got too i'd be happy to
give it to them.

Later
Matt Wall
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 I'd like to try this too, if the encoder was free, I'd like to play with
 it, compare it to mp3's I already have, if I like it good enough, and
 winamp had a pluggin, I'd switch to it.
 At 03:22 PM 12/8/00 -0800, you wrote:
 
 In the 9/9 1999 entry of "News" on the minidisc.org site is a note:
 
 : Bryan Mo discovers Sony's ATRAC3 page featuring a downloadable player
and
 song clips encoded at various bit rates (you can also register to get an
 encoder).
 
 Did anyone download this software? Going to the page now says "these
 contents are under construction" and there nothing available to download.
If
 you saw this early on and got a copy, can you please send it to me?
Thanks.
 
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