MD: md adverts
actually the only official adverts for MD I have seen was a stupid Sony one, all of which I remember was a guy with a pigeon on his head. Hmmm. i think one of the original adverts for MD (sony, obviously) was responsible for giving us 'Reef'... they are seen playing their demo (via a minidisc) to a record company blokey, who then chucks it out the 7th floor window, to be picked up by a skatekid (who just happened to be passing), who slips it into his MD player (that he just happens to be have with him) and then we are 'treated' to more reef... so.. the message is that you can throw your 'discs out of a multistory building, and they will still work. I suggest that we a/b test this, by throwing various different brands from various heights.. sorry, sorry. oh.. btw. i agree with princegaz'sss comments backing up pierre.. never apologise for your english.. it's many, many times better than my french! oh.. i hope i haven't offended any reef fans... shutting up now. seanB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster NATIONAL BOYCOTT
Boycotts have worked in the past. When I was a little boy (a million years ago) living in NYC they started a boycott against s company called Judy Bond Clothes. They had shopping bags that said "Don't buy Judy Bond Clothes". There's no Judy Bond clothes anymore is there?? heehee.. the shopping bag thing wouldn't work now... people would just think it was a publicity exercise, and then there would be a phase where all the labels clothes had "..don't buy these clothes.." phrase written on them, and then after a short while everyone would move onto the next fashion phase, and the company would go out of businesss.. er.. okay, so it would work.. seanB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster stuff again...
Right on, lets all stop buying CDs and more importantly, tell all our friends to stop buying them and why. If you really need some music use a Napster alternative But surely this is still going to hurt the bands? I'm not defending the corporations here (although it sounds a bit like it), but this is how i understand it... : evil corporations 'create' acts, hoping to make buckets of money.. when/if they do, other corps think "hey, lets get ourselves a bit of that action", thus contributing to the excess of similar sounding sh|t. But sometimes, it's profits from the sales of these 'artists' (heh) which help fund (albeit in a limited way) a lot of the 'indie' labels that are affiliated to the majors. I think that if record sales continue to slump (apparently?) then it's all the small acts that will get dropped (i mean. it's already happening left right and centre..), and unless they can afford to record their own material and release it on the net themselves, i think we are going to miss out on a lot of music.. I don't mean that i disagree with boycotting, but is it likely that these companies will ever have a change of heart/brain where profits are concerned? I think it would be good if they got the idea, and started selling stuff on the net, but i cannot believe that we will ever see a song for sale for 25 cents! erm.. not one that you'ld want to own, anyway! (okay, i know music taste is subjective...!) When will media giants learn they can't control the internet? They have to live with it and accept things are a little different here. I spend money on the net (like my 30gig drive I installed tuesday) but bullying by large corporations seriously p!sses me off and they're not gonna get any income through that! I completely agree with that... i suppose that if a boycott eventually forced a change, then it could only be a good thing.. my own argument suggests that the majors aren't helping anyone but themselves, so maybe a boycott wouldn't do any more damage to small acts.. .. and i guess that if you want to make music THAT much, then you will find a way whatever. erm.. sorry, I'll shut up now. seanB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster NATIONAL BOYCOTT
okay... having read more messages in the topic, and now been to these sites, I'm more inclined to say that these companies can src3w themselves. sorry if any of my earlier comments annoyed anyone... g seanB PrinceGaz wrote I knew I would get some dubious info from thr RIAA site, but what I found at one point forced me to leave the computer in disgust. Most artists get bugger all of the cost of a disc, and for them to suggest otherwise is rubbish. They must think we have sh!t for brains. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Napster..off topic still!
re: I disagree 110% with your statement that people who use napster dont purchase cd's. well.. most of the mp3's i have are songs i already own, i just don't want to take my cd's to work. I have some rare stuff live/old that i don't think is for sale (legally, anyway). I have some that made me buy the CD's, and i have a few that didn't. Most of the time, if i really like a song, i want to own it. If i don't like an Mp3, i delete it re: I don't get this. A band is upset that people are stealing their music, they try to shut down the company making such theft possible, and that makes them "lower than pond scum?" They *aren't* suing their fans. They are going after Napster. totally. Having been in a sh|tty small time band, i know i wouldn't want people stealing music that i had worked hard to create. Essentially, it does boil down to theft, i'm not sure how you can argue it any other way really. i hate mettalica anyway, though! !P I'd be willing to bet all the money to my name that 99% of the songs on Napster are available at Tower, Virgin, or an online CD store. mmm... not sure about that..maybe it depends on your music taste, and the online CD store.. I havent seen 'ventolin (cylob mix)' for sale yet (although I'm sure it is available somewhere), but i WILL buy it when i do. there is a lot of live stuff available that i doubt you can buy. It may well be a high percentage, but surely not 99? I'd be willing to bet that you would lose your money! If you have no way of paying for something then how can it be stealing??? It's not stealing if there is no way to pay for it!! Not true at all. TOTALLY agree... sorry las, but i don't think you can legitimately back up that arguement!. i'm not saying that i don't have mp3's of stuff that is hard to find.. but i wouldn't deny that technically i don't have any write to own the music.. I'd just rather be paying the artist instead of the label. that doesn't justify the artist getting *nothing* though. hehe.. my arguments are all two-faced, aren't they! seanB end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: [Fwd: Maplin Promotions]
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:11:15 +0100 Raymond West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 20 years ago I asked RS for a catalogue and account, but they wouldn't deal with me because my level of trade was too low.After about six months I got a semi abusive phone call from them criticizing me for not ordering from them. oops.. If RS had ever treated me like that, I certainly wouldn't be using them... In the same breath, i have to say that if I didn't work for an educational establishment, I would have been dealt with in the same way, considering the small amount i order from them. The account the uni has was in existence long before I started working here, and I tend to order from the same (smaller) companies I used when I was in other jobs, but in some cases i am constrained to using organisations the uni has existing accounts with (garbled defense ends here..). In my limited experience of them, they have been okay.. I s'pose it boils down to whether you have an evil corporation behind you or not (note to Brunel e-mail monitors... you KNOW you are an evil corporation.. don't try to wriggle out of it..!). I didn't mean to inadvertantly pull wool over anyones eyes! Don't use RS, they treat you like *@$*! yeah, i'm done now. sean. Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: [Fwd: Maplin Promotions]
But Maplin Electronics is a UK based electronics store, generally very competitive and a rival to Tandy (Radio Shack) here-- I think Maplins is more in competition with RS components than Tandy.. Both RS (no idea what it stands for!) and Maplins have HUGE mail order catalogues, and offer a wider range of stock than Tandy. I haven't used Maplins, so I can't comment on them, but RS have good customer service/care and prompt delivery, but you do tend to pay a bit more for their components. The catalogues apparently cost £27 to produce, as the rep informed me when he noticed the four month old 3-phone-directory-sized box sitting unopened next to my desk.! maybe i'll have to use maplins from now on. sean end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Party in the Atlanta area ... list members invited (slightly off-topic)
Boy George's metal years ... METAL years!!!?!!! BLimey. I must have lead a sheltered life! What does THAT sound like!? I wish i lived near Atlanta now.. seanB end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD
SSR wrote: .. Improvements to ATRAC are really improvements to the psychoaccoustic models used for encoding. The "format" of data on a disc is identical; the difference is in which bits are recorded and which are not. And as the psychoaccoustic model has absolutely nothing to do with playback, there is 100% forward and backward compatability. oh, I se. Thanks. that makes sense. how come you know so much? seeanne - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD
Sorry Rat! I broke my own rule for postings. I wrote: Not even close. There are no "bands, each of which has a fixed data width", unless you're calling a bit a band. It should read instead: "Please be careful about what you post as fact, you can easily give people a misconception about how things work" Rick Tee Hee!Just when I think things are going to get heated, people start being all polite again.. I just love you all.. erm. so anyway.. I figured S.S.R was just trying to give it to me in laymans terms, which, heaven help me, I need sometimes. Basically..Thanks to both of you for replying! Sean.. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Classical Music: CD vs. MD
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:05:01 -0700 Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some peices. However..the compression systems are getting better all the time. I think all this only applies to recordings you make yourself though... Nope, it applies to pre-recorded MDs as well. An MD still has the same capacity, whether pre-recorded or "made at home," so it is subject to the same limitations. What Sean said about the differences between classical an "other" music is for the most part correct, though. It's more difficult for MD to compress classical music without losing very audible parts of the content. yeah..I'm only spewing stuff that I've read from other places, so forgive me if I'm just perpetuating lies LIES here.. erm.. it gives me a misguided (and incorrect) sense of importance.. ANYway.. Whilst I would have little technical comprehension of how discs could be coded differently yet still read on the same machines, surely this is what is happening? I mean, how can manufacturers have different ATRAC systems, and release different versions of them with new MD models, and yet the discs can all be read by any MD machine (well..supposedly)? Isn't this something to do with the way that ATRAC bit allocation assigns varying bits to blocks depending on the complexity of each..er..part (you can tell I'm floundering here, yes?)? I've just picked up this info on this site.. http://www.minidisc.org/minidisc_faq.html#Q5 13.Does ATRAC have "forward compatibility," or is it a static algorithm? Does the ATRAC version affect the quality of the recording or the playback? The encoder (recording) side of ATRAC offers room for improvement from one generation to the next (specifically, in the decision about how to allocate encoding bits so as to best match human psycho-acoustic properties). Thus, MD recordings made on a newer machine with a better ATRAC encoder will sound better than old recordings, even when played back on an old machine. The decoder (playback) side of ATRAC has a fixed structure, and though ATRAC chips are all generally expected to decode with nearly the same quality, increases in digital signal processing accuracy may allow slight audio quality improvements (if those improvements have not already been made to modern ATRAC chips). Endofquote Doesn't this mean that if you recorded some classical music from a CD (say) using second generation ATRAC, and then you bought a pre-recorded MD of the same music which had used 3rd generation coding, that the latter would sound better, regardless of which ATRAC the player had on board? HELP! Sean. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Beeps and more...
Are there any thoughts out there on the Aiwa machines, as far as their sturdiness and quality of recorded sound are concerned? (And I'd still like to know whether you can turn the beep off on them...) How many other machines beep? beeping is bad. Sean. end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Portable recorders
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:55:51 +0100 (BST) Sean Buckingham Personally I prefer Aiwa's way of doing things, but I'm convinced about the build quality of their units.. OBVIOUSLY, idiot that I am, I meant to say "..but I'm NOT convinced about the build quality.." I will shut up now. SEan end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Portable recorders
On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 13:34:58 EDT Not Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may seem like a ridiculous question, but do the portable units have a recording level control? (I have seen analog recorders that use a built in limiter rather than provide recording level controls.) Hi.. there's just been a 'message-thread' about this (ish).. I wish it was a stupid question, if only there was some standard among the manufacturers (blah blah moan moan.,.) anyway, ..I think the upshot of the discussion was this: Sony machines have both an Automatic Gain control and Manual recording levels (which I would expect to work well, seeing as it's sony..). The slight downside is that the machine has to be paused in order to adjust the levels..I guess this is just a personal taste issue really.. Sharp machines only have manual recording levels, no AGC. Whether you can adjust 'on the fly' I'm not sure.. Aiwa machines have Manual levels and AGC, and you can adjust the levels during recording. I'm not sure I'd expect the quality of the AGC to be as good as Sonys, but that's just heresay (heresy?!) on my part.. Personally I prefer Aiwa's way of doing things, but I'm convinced about the build quality of their units.. I'm done. Sean - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: noiseNoiseNOISE
I'm thinking it's cause I'm using a stereo plug into a mono input and something isn't grounded right- but I just don't know. If the input on the card is mono, have you tried sending it a mono signal from a mono source, using a mono jack? (e..sorry) I'd try that before anything else. Ohh. One general thing.. Can People PLASE say what models of whatever product they are using when they report a problem.. it's pretty hard to make wild stabs in the dark about whats wrong (although the fact that I'm still trying makes me pretty arrogant, hmm?!) SeanB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: aiwa stuff again
AFAIK, the SOny portables are the only ones with both automatic and manual record level settings. Contrary to what you have heard, the Sonys do have a level adjust whilst (did I spell that right?) recording. Sorry, I meant to say "level adjust without having to pause first".. I'm fairly positive the Aiwa's can be manually adjusted whilst recording, and they have AGC as well. (i hope!) SeanB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] end Sean Buckingham Media Services Brunel University, UK * (Ext)2209 * (Direct) 0208 891 8264 * (e-1)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * (e-2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
