Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Background: I have an MZ-R50 and a Sharp 722. My girlfriend has a 702, and I have good friends with the the MZ-R50 and the 702. In two years, none of us has had a single problem with any of them. The Sony has a well-deserved reputation for being a tank, and the Sharp units have, IMHO, an undeserved reputation for being unreliable -- the early 702's were junk, but the 702-MK fixed that.] Hmm, to my knowledge, the early 702's and the later 702-MK are very reliable units. Those made just before the 702-MK's where 'junk'. Anyway, people always complain when something doesn't work. I don't see a lot of people writing to this list 'Hey, MD-L, my portable MD unit works! What should I do?' Cheers, Ralph - Who sugest to enjoy your unit as long as it works! -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50
I have to agree that as far as Sony's go, the MZ-R50 is my favorite -- it's a very durable and easy-to-use design. My only complaints: 1) End Search. 'nuff said. 2) The record and eject buttons are exactly the same size, move in the same direction, and are located right next to each other. If you're trying to operate the unit "by touch," it's far too easy to accidentally hit record when you're trying to eject. 3) I wish it were a bit smaller ;-) However, the extra size clearly makes it more durable. 4) Sony stuff is still too expensive. An MZR-50 is $250 even now, while I got my 722 for $140. That said, if I were recommending a portable recorder, I would probably recommend the MZ-R50 or the 722. Not just because that's what I have, but because I really put a lot of time into comparing different units when I bought mine, and I think they're both great units. [Background: I have an MZ-R50 and a Sharp 722. My girlfriend has a 702, and I have good friends with the the MZ-R50 and the 702. In two years, none of us has had a single problem with any of them. The Sony has a well-deserved reputation for being a tank, and the Sharp units have, IMHO, an undeserved reputation for being unreliable -- the early 702's were junk, but the 702-MK fixed that.] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sony MZ-R50
It seems like the MZ-R50 is becaming more popular on the list. :) Anyway, local Nobody Beats The Wiz store in Norwalk, CT (about an hour drive from New York) has a lot of MD portables. They have MZ-R50 for $250, Aiwa F-70 for $230 as well as all the current models. Until recently they were still selling one of the older Kenwood models for $400. Just recently they finally got rid of Sony ZS-M1 (or whatever) MD boombox. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Amen! thank you (and the list) for another R50 advocate. I do not discount the R9x for some of it's features, but the one that hits closest to home for me, is the interface. using menus to get to functions that were once (and in my opinion) should be directly accessable is a step backwards. In the computer industry millions of dollars are spent to develop a good and comfortable user interface (eg: MacOS), but here, Sony makes some selections harder to get at and we have to put up with it. ObSideNote: I'm waiting to see what happens from the petition to get rid of end-search on the Sony portables, but if it works, maybe this could be a good way to get our collective voices heard and recognized. slightly OT, but for the record I haven't had a problem with end search as some people have, but I also read the manual that came with my MD player :) -Jeffrey On Fri, 26 May 2000, Bishop FPW wrote: From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] * mjarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 25 May 2000 | I have heard opinions that this model, | overall, was the best mini recorder | that Sony ever made. Any truth to this last statement? Never was. For its day it was the smallest, but that is the extent of its superiority. If you want something in the same general class, the MZ-R90/91 is superior in every respect. Ooh ooh, my personal soapbox! Some differences between the two. The R9* is smaller. The R9* uses a smaller cheaper battery gets a slightly longer life. The R50 has a separate line-out, the R9* uses the cranked headphone jack, which is fine, but isn't line level, and can't use the remote as conveniently this way. The R50 has a barely adequate mic preamp, the R9* is hopelessly inadequate. (They both suck here, the R9* sucks more.) The R50 has earphones I could live with, the R9* earphones immediately headed for the trash. The R50 remote stays where you clip it. The R9* remote doesn't, plus the view angle is exactly wrong, and it's flimsier. Thr R50 has most functions directly accessible. The R9* forces you to go through menus for some, which isn't terrible, but not as good. *I* think the R50 is better, but really depends on you. Clearly you can get around the earphone mic problems by buying new bits. These size wars don't do any favours, they keep cutting bits off that I'd actually like to retain. But it could get better, who knows? I thought the R55 was the lowest to date (sorry!), and the R9* an improvement over that, but still not as good as the R50. puts soapbox away Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50
At 5/25/00 7:38 PM, Stainless Steel Rat increased the world's knowledge by typing: Never was. For its day it was the smallest, but that is the extent of its superiority. If you want something in the same general class, the MZ-R90/91 is superior in every respect. That's BS. Here's a list of areas where the R50 is superior to the R90/91: -- The R50 can be charged while playing or recording. The R90 cannot. -- The remote on the R90 does not have a track mark button. The R50 does. -- The R50 had a thumb wheel. The R90 has a jog lever. I definitely prefer the thumb wheel when creating titles. -- The R90 is MUCH more sluggish than the R50 in startup and track seek times. (R90 Startup = 8 sec. R50 Startup = 2 sec.) -- The placement and shape of the main buttons (Play, Stop, FFwd, and Rwnd) on the R50 is much better than those of the R90. -- The track mark placement on the R90 is less precise than the R50. I'm not saying that the R90 doesn't have any improvements over the R50, because it does. Unfortunately, it also takes some steps backwards over the R50. But both of them (still!) have that stupid End Search button. So this means that my next recorder purchase will NOT be a Sony of any model. Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | Even more exasperating than the guy who thinks he knows it all | | is the one who really does. | | -- Al Bernstein | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50
At 5/26/00 3:33 PM, Stainless Steel Rat increased the world's knowledge by typing: * Ed Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 26 May 2000 | -- The R50 can be charged while playing or recording. The R90 cannot. Given the R50's woefully short battery life, it needs this. The R90's NiMH cell lasts three to five times as long as the R50's NiCD cell. Charge while playing is unnecessary on the R90. You must be thinking of the R55. The R50 lasts 4 hours on recording and 7 hours on playback. The R90 lasts 6.5 hours when recording and 11 hours on playback. The R90 is better, but the R50 is adequate for most purposes. And if you need more time, adding AA batteries should give you whatever you need. | -- The placement and shape of the main buttons (Play, Stop, FFwd, and | Rwnd) on the R50 is much better than those of the R90. Not really. And the R50's buttons are smaller. You *must* be thinking of the R55. | -- The track mark placement on the R90 is less precise than the R50. If that degree of precision is a requirement, why aren't you using a studio deck for editing? Why should I have to? Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | He knows not his own strength that hath not met adversity. | |-- Ben Jonson | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50
* Jeffrey Scorsone [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 26 May 2000 | the R50's battery life is not "woefully short". The R55 is/was short. D'oh! My bad! I was thinking R55, not R50. The R50 is a *COMPLETELY* different beast. The R30 and R50 are nice units. I don't know that I'd call the R50 the best unit Sony ever made, but it is a good one. The R55, on the other hand... 'nuff said. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Sony MZ-R50 vs. MZ-R55
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === R55 - one of the best looking portables available (IMHO). Battery life is sub-standard, but that said, 16 hours of continuous play really isn't that bad. Don't want to go AA? Then get another rechargeable battery and you're up to par with the rest of them. Jon http://midiservices.com http://theopinion.com http://midi.com -Original Message- From: Ben Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 9:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50 vs. MZ-R55 === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what everyone thught was a better md player/recorder, the MZ-R50 or the MZ-R55? If anyone has either of these two md player/recorder and wish to sell the at a reasonable price please e-mail me. Thanks Frank - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mz-r50 ... longer battery life for playing and recording... mz-r55 smaller, lighter, and has a higher cool factor ... but battery life is very short ;( - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50, MZ-R55 - No more SCMSing around?
Tony Keogh asked, | I'm thinking of buying an R50 to dub MD's from my Sony 520, cos I heard | somewhere that the R50 could be hacked to disable SCMS. | Is this true and how do you do it? Early ROM versions of the R50 could be set to record SCMS-final signals; otherwise they obeyed the rest of the rules of SCMS. "Disabling" is not a good way to describe it. If you find an R50 in a store today, it's very un- likely to be one of those early models. Derek Streeter has a web page with details, but I don't have the URL at hand. | Does it apply to the R55 or any other portables? Not that anyone has reported. | Does it only (presumably) work if you record TO the R50 rather than from it? The R50 has no digital output, only analog. If you record *from* an R50, you're recording an analog signal, and SCMS does not apply. So if you find a sufficiently old R50, to use the trick you'd need to record from the 520 to the R50. Now, on a 520 you can change the SCMS status of an existing recording; it's a slow, involved process, and I did it only once to see if it could be done. However, it works only on recordable MDs; if your source is an SCMS-final CD or an SCMS-final premastered MD (if such things exist), it won't help. | And finally, what ATRAC version are the R50 and R55? They're both Sony 4.0, I believe. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50 vs. MZ-R55
Also, isn't the 55 lacking a jog dial? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sony MZ-R50 vs. MZ-R55
I was wondering what everyone thught was a better md player/recorder, the MZ-R50 or the MZ-R55? If anyone has either of these two md player/recorder and wish to sell the at a reasonable price please e-mail me. Thanks Frank - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50 vs. MZ-R55
as a proud owner of an R50 I have to say it is cooler than the R55. The R55 is smaller and does have the backlit remote it loses out on battery life and ease of use (jog dial) The nearest replacement to it is the R37 which isn't in competition with the R50 but with the R35 which it replaced. The R90 is closer to it though there is a combined port (line in/mic) I believe but don't quote me. The R50 has these as seperate ports and I think that makes it easier and more convienent to use. -Jeffrey On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Ben Roberts wrote: === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what everyone thught was a better md player/recorder, the MZ-R50 or the MZ-R55? If anyone has either of these two md player/recorder and wish to sell the at a reasonable price please e-mail me. Thanks Frank - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mz-r50 ... longer battery life for playing and recording... mz-r55 smaller, lighter, and has a higher cool factor ... but battery life is very short ;( - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R50, MZ-R55 - No more SCMSing around?
That's what i do now when i need to do a digital dub from my 930 to R50. You can find the instructions here: http://www.sketchy.net/md/r50scms.html But what i do is use a Sony Discman remote controller instead to activate test mode. Just set up the system as described above and insert the remote and press the ESP button. No 24k resistor needed. It works like a charm. I don't know if it works on the R55. It is not possible to do a digital recording the other way around as the R50 does not have a digital output. As for ATRAC, R50=4.0, R55=4.5. Cheers Faizal MD Trading: Http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home2/ba7523921/index.htm From: "Tony Keogh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Sony MZ-R50, MZ-R55 - No more SCMSing around? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:14:29 - I'm thinking of buying an R50 to dub MD's from my Sony 520, cos I heard somewhere that the R50 could be hacked to disable SCMS. Is this true and how do you do it? Does it apply to the R55 or any other portables? Does it only (presumably) work if you record TO the R50 rather than from it? And finally, what ATRAC version are the R50 and R55? Many thanks. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
