Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)

2001-02-21 Thread John Small


On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:09:33 -0800, Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

say the program is 8-10pm tuesday  wednesday. before you leave, set
the RS timer to turn on at 7:59pm, put the R50 in rec-pause. set the 940 to
turn on at 8pm *wednesday*. this way, every day the tuner turns on at 7:59.
first day, that triggers the R50 to turn on.  second day, the 940 turns
itself on.

Unfortunately the 940 uses only an external timer, not it's own internal clock,
and the RS $26 electronic timer is 24 hours, and selectable by day.

Also I think the R50 will turn itself off after 5 minutes in rec-pause mode.

i find the most elegant solution to be the one using the equipment already
available;)

I agree, using the equipment at hand is preferrable!

Thanks.

-jts Arlington, TX
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Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)

2001-02-20 Thread David W. Tamkin


John Small wrote,

| To be clear, I'm asking about a player only, not recorder.  I have an
| MZ-R50 that I paid $465 for when it first hit the market three years ago. 
| It has been wonderful.  Now that I have a 940 deck with LP4 I want to use
| that for time shifting radio.  So I need a player.  Otherwise I'm taking
| 2-4 hours to copy the LP4 over to mono on the R50.  That will work but it's
| is time consuming making the transfer.

| So I'm looking for a portable player.  I have an E40 and most of the time a
| player is just fine and if I need portable recording I do have the R50.

Here's a thought.

You need to record more than 2h40m per session, I infer, or you could record
in SP mono on the 940 and play that in the R50 or the E40.  You wouldn't need
an MDLP player in that case.  But each session must be no longer than 5h20m,
or even LP4 wouldn't handle it on a single-disc unit like the 940, so what
you're recording must be longer than 2h40m but not no longer than 5h20m.

The question is this: does whatever you want to time-shift end within 5h20m
after you leave or after you go to sleep?  If so, you could split the output
from the radio to both the R50 and the 940, start the R50 recording in [SP]
mono manually before you leave or before you go to sleep, set the timer for
the 940 to take over (also in SP mono) when the R50's disc is about to fill,
and get the recording in SP mono across two discs, which the R50 or the E40
could play with no problem.

Let's say you go to sleep at 11:00 PM and the program is on from midnight to
4 AM.  You start the R50 recording in mono at 11, and it stops at 1:42 when
the disc is full; the timer starts the 940 recording at 1:40 and either stops
it at 4:05 (in case the show runs late or runs long) or lets the disc fill at
4:22.  You get the whole show, some extra stuff you don't have to listen to,
and 1m58s overlap between the two discs.  When you wake up, you put the first
disc into the 940, start to divide, set the rehearsal point increment to
minutes, divide at 58:00 (in case the show started early), and delete track 1.
That way you won't have to FF through everything that was on from 11 to mid-
night when you get your chance to listen.

If the program you're time-shifting ends more than 5h20 after you leave or go
to sleep, then that won't work.  You'd need a second timer-operable deck and
a second timer to record that first disc, and for that cost you might as well
stick with your first plan and buy an MDLP portable player.

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Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)

2001-02-20 Thread John Small


On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:43:24 -0600 (CST), "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

so what
you're recording must be longer than 2h40m but not no longer than 5h20m

That's correct.  Specifically two 2-hour programs (Diane Ream) on successive
days ... otherwise when I'm at home between programs I can just record in mono
mode as you suggested (and I do).

set the timer for
the 940 to take over (also in SP mono) when the R50's disc is about to fill,
and get the recording in SP mono across two discs, which the R50 or the E40
could play with no problem.

Yes, that's an interesting suggestion.  I could purchase another Radio Shack
timer and put the R50 on this ... ah, but nothing I see in the manual about time
recording for the R50.  Rats, if only the 510 sitting on my self was working
(but if it was I would not have the 940!).  Otherwise I cannot split this way as
the show comes on about 2 hours after I would turn the R50 on ... I would get 40
minutes of it only.

Still, an interesting suggestion.

Thanks.

-jts Arlington, TX

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Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)

2001-02-20 Thread Peter Jaques


On 20 Feb 01, 11:16AM, John Small wrote:
 Yes, that's an interesting suggestion.  I could purchase another Radio
 Shack timer and put the R50 on this ... ah, but nothing I see in the
 manual about time recording for the R50.  Rats, if only the 510 sitting
 on my self was working (but if it was I would not have the 940!).
 Otherwise I cannot split this way as the show comes on about 2 hours
 after I would turn the R50 on ... I would get 40 minutes of it only.

how about this modification: buy the radio shack timer  put your TUNER on
it; set the r50 to synchro-record  leave it in rec-pause. when the tuner
turns on automatically, the r50 will start recording. then you can use
david's suggestion to turn the 940 on automatically when the r50's about to
fill up.

peter

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Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)

2001-02-20 Thread John Small


On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:30:04 -0800, Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

how about this modification: buy the radio shack timer  put your TUNER on
it; set the r50 to synchro-record  leave it in rec-pause. when the tuner
turns on automatically, the r50 will start recording. then you can use
david's suggestion to turn the 940 on automatically when the r50's about to
fill up.

Thanks for the suggestion.  The timer will only do 24 hours and not by day.  I
need to record two hours one day and two the next and I will have to turn both
on at the same time as I'll be away during that time period from time to time.

I could look for a weekly 24 hour timer, but last I looked several years ago
they were in the $100 range.  Which puts me in the range of costs (well, close
enough given the effort involved) associated with buying an LP4 player in the
first place.

Thanks.

-jts
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Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)

2001-02-20 Thread Peter Jaques


On 20 Feb 01,  8:24PM, John Small wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestion.  The timer will only do 24 hours and not by day.  I
 need to record two hours one day and two the next and I will have to turn both
 on at the same time as I'll be away during that time period from time to time.

actually, i think my suggestion would still work, depending on when you
leave. say the program is 8-10pm tuesday  wednesday. before you leave, set
the RS timer to turn on at 7:59pm, put the R50 in rec-pause. set the 940 to
turn on at 8pm *wednesday*. this way, every day the tuner turns on at 7:59.
first day, that triggers the R50 to turn on.  second day, the 940 turns
itself on.

this would only work if you are leaving after 10pm monday night. otherwise
the R50 will turn on on the wrong day.

i find the most elegant solution to be the one using the equipment already
available;) who needs to spend more money? this way you can wait on the
mldp portable until their prices come down a bit.

take care,
peter

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