Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 36

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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Vehicle 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD
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BillR wrote:


Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 12:33:07 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Found an engine
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Its not pulling anything up, is the VIN correct?

BillR wrote:



Kaleb - You seem willing to help out with VIN checks.  Had I known I would
have go got through so much I'd have gotten a subscription to CarFax.  I
have great hope that this will be the last one needed.  If you would run


one


for me I would be most appreciative:
XXX  WDBCB20A8BB012838 XXX   



Well I now know where my daughter gets her dyslexia.  That should be
WDBCB20A8BB013838
This should work  - I hope.
Thanks - BillR
Jacksonville FL  
300SD  265K /  200K engine




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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, I figured if a new plug measured whatever, then others that measure 
the same should be good.  It will show a bad plug though with 30 or more 
ohms.


Kevin wrote:


On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:30:23PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Is there something wrong with me or what?  Anytime I measure plugs cold 
they always measure around 1.2 ohms, even brand new ones.



A lot of meters aren't very sensitive below a few ohms, unless you have a 
high end meter used for real small electronics.


For your meter, that is the value of a good plug. A different meter might 
think something else.


K

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Re: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

[John M McIntosh]

Thank you, I read all the historical mail about the violet/purple  
wire and will wire up a

switch to flip between summer & winter.


On 6-Oct-05, at 1:53 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

Mercedes does not sell an afterglow controller for OM617 diesels.  
Bosch

and Beru both make aftermarket relays kits for retrofit. If you have a
relay that Mercedes sells for you engine, it does NOT provide for
afterstart glow. You can fake afterstart glow by interrupting the
violet/purple wire.

Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

[Rich Thomas]

Where is the car in Houston?

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Chuck Landenberger wrote:


Hi All,

I'm considering an '87 190E 16V in Houston.  Let me know who  
you would suggest to do a PPI?


Or if anyone on the list would check it out?

Thanks,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Bio prices

[ernest breakfield]

hi Kevin!

   these people almost always have BioD, and claim to have the ARCO ECD-1
as well.

Western States Oil CO
1790 South 10th Street
San Jose, CA  95112
http://www.lubeoil.com


cheers!
e


> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 09:33:42PM -0700, ernest breakfield wrote:
>> $3.249 for B99 in San Jose CA this afternoon,... prices for #2 are all
>> over
>> the chart.
>
> Really? Where? That's cheaper than dino pretty much everywhere else in the
> bay area.
>
> Looks like someone's making a trip to san jose soon...
>
> K

[MBZ] 80 240D For Sale Cheap

[l02turner]

A friend has a '80 240D with about 150k miles on it located in Richmond Va
he'd like to get sell.  He bought it for his daughter who drove it for
several years before buying something else and selling it to a neighbor.
The car was driven until several months ago when it wouldn;t start and the
owner left it in the driveway needing a battery we think.  The owner moved
to Germany and didn't want to spend $100 on a new battery.  The title has
been signed and will not be a problem.

The car is light yellow with tan interior (IIRC) - auto trans, manual 
windows, -

fast glow plug kit and was serviced  by the book until it failed to start.
The engine smokes slightly at startup but runs well and the AT shifts fine.

If interested, send me a note directly and I'll provide a phone number.
He wants to get $500 for it.  Would be an excellent driver or parts car. 
It's
such a nice car I'd really like someone to buy it & drive it instead of 
parting it out

but what happens, happens.  ;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D. 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 36

[BillR]

Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 12:33:07 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Found an engine
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Its not pulling anything up, is the VIN correct?

BillR wrote:

> Kaleb - You seem willing to help out with VIN checks.  Had I known I would
> have go got through so much I'd have gotten a subscription to CarFax.  I
> have great hope that this will be the last one needed.  If you would run
one
> for me I would be most appreciative:
> XXX  WDBCB20A8BB012838 XXX   

Well I now know where my daughter gets her dyslexia.  That should be
WDBCB20A8BB013838
This should work  - I hope.
Thanks - BillR
Jacksonville FL  
300SD  265K /  200K engine

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Dave M.]

Exactly - thank you for the clarification, Marshall!

=)

-dm


On 10/6/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave M. wrote:
> > Lee,
> >
> > Cold starting will be a non-issue in the 93 if you run Mobil-1, as it
> > has factory afterglow. Probably no worries to zero F, below that a
> > block heater would be nice if it's cold-soaked overnight.
> >
> > On the 87, without afterglow, I'd recommend the afterglow conversion.
> > Basically that means installing a glow plug relay from any 3.5L diesel
> > (90-95), and replacing the dash gauge temp sender in the head with the
> > dual-output type (the extra output is for the relay). I did this on my
> > car and have been very happy with the results. There's another cheaper
> > method,  what I call poor man's afterglow, using an existing
> > thermoswitch on the 86/87 cars to keep the plugs on for a short time
> > after starting.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > -Dave M.
> >
> >>--
> >>Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
> >>From: Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choices...
> >>
> >>
> >>But I'm not putting my wife in a vehicle that I don't know yet.
> >>Last thing I need is her calling me from work, or from a customer
> >>location, saying that her car won't start due to the cold...
> >>
> >>I have to experience a New England winter with a diesel car before
> >>I'm willing to convert her too...
>
> Afterglow has NO influence on cold starting temp or ease but it DOES
> profoundly smooth out initial idle when the engine is started cold. The
> later style glow plugs (used in MOST cars with afterglow relays) DO
> slightly improve cold starting, but they will do that when used with a
> normal (no afterstart) relay.
>
> Biggest challenge to cold starting after insuring that the battery is
> capable of delivering sufficient power and the preglow system is
> operating perfectly, is to verify that there is NO water in the fuel
> system and fuel is treated so that clouding won't occur at the lowest
> expected ambient temps.
>
> Marshall
>
> --
>   Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
>"der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0
> 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

[Marshall Booth]

John M McIntosh wrote:
Rusty, is that the new afterglow controller part number? Seems that  
is what is in the 83 at the moment.
If so it doesn't behave like it, (I think) Perhaps I've a bad temp  
sensor and it's never doing the after glow.


On 6-Oct-05, at 5:58 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:



The new # is 001 545 98 32

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:50 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

Somewhere I have it written down the afterglow control for my 83
300TDt would be
Bosch 0 281 003 096 and perhaps the MB part number is 025 545 5432


Mercedes does not sell an afterglow controller for OM617 diesels. Bosch 
and Beru both make aftermarket relays kits for retrofit. If you have a 
relay that Mercedes sells for you engine, it does NOT provide for 
afterstart glow. You can fake afterstart glow by interrupting the 
violet/purple wire.


Marshall
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159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Marshall Booth]

Dave M. wrote:

Lee,

Cold starting will be a non-issue in the 93 if you run Mobil-1, as it
has factory afterglow. Probably no worries to zero F, below that a
block heater would be nice if it's cold-soaked overnight.

On the 87, without afterglow, I'd recommend the afterglow conversion.
Basically that means installing a glow plug relay from any 3.5L diesel
(90-95), and replacing the dash gauge temp sender in the head with the
dual-output type (the extra output is for the relay). I did this on my
car and have been very happy with the results. There's another cheaper
method,  what I call poor man's afterglow, using an existing
thermoswitch on the 86/87 cars to keep the plugs on for a short time
after starting.

:-)

-Dave M.


--
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choices...


But I'm not putting my wife in a vehicle that I don't know yet.
Last thing I need is her calling me from work, or from a customer
location, saying that her car won't start due to the cold...

I have to experience a New England winter with a diesel car before
I'm willing to convert her too...


Afterglow has NO influence on cold starting temp or ease but it DOES 
profoundly smooth out initial idle when the engine is started cold. The 
later style glow plugs (used in MOST cars with afterglow relays) DO 
slightly improve cold starting, but they will do that when used with a 
normal (no afterstart) relay.


Biggest challenge to cold starting after insuring that the battery is 
capable of delivering sufficient power and the preglow system is 
operating perfectly, is to verify that there is NO water in the fuel 
system and fuel is treated so that clouding won't occur at the lowest 
expected ambient temps.


Marshall

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159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:

> Is there something wrong with me or what?  Anytime I measure plugs cold 
> they always measure around 1.2 ohms, even brand new ones.

My favorite way to test them is with an old-fashioned automotive
ammeter. (Note - this method is for the "new" parallel pencil plugs) The
ones that display -30,0,+30. I put 12AWG wire leads on it. 

To use it, I pop the top off of the glow relay and unplug the connector
for the glow plugs. There is a contact for each glow plug in this
connector, so I clip on meter lead to the fused side of the big,
screw-in fuse and then touch each contact, one at a time. The socket
has pin numbers molded into it, and these numbers correspond to the
cylinder number. 

This method tests the wire _and_ the plug. When cold, a good plug draws
about 20A (Well, on my meter it point to the mark for 20 amps. I have
not calibrated or tested the accuracy of that meter...) It will drop
back to about 15A after 8-10 seconds.

Once (and only once - so far) I had a bad terminal contact and found it
this way. At the relay connector it showed bad - but at the plug they
were all good!

  Philip, who likes cheap tools that work well.

Re: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

[John M McIntosh]

Rusty, is that the new afterglow controller part number? Seems that  
is what is in the 83 at the moment.
If so it doesn't behave like it, (I think) Perhaps I've a bad temp  
sensor and it's never doing the after glow.


On 6-Oct-05, at 5:58 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:


The new # is 001 545 98 32

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:50 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

Somewhere I have it written down the afterglow control for my 83
300TDt would be
Bosch 0 281 003 096 and perhaps the MB part number is 025 545 5432


John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1992 300TDt  148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] Too big for Gump?

[redghost]

Cd may have more pull than poor old Gump.


On Thursday, October 6, 2005, at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:



Showed that to my wife last night. I've been trying chase down a 300CD 
lately, I think that trailer would be slick behind it. She thought it 
would be pretty cool, life on the open road...




-Curt



Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:47:51 -0700
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redghost wrote:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/101882076.html

Would this be too much to tow behind Gump?


Ultimately it depends on the weight, but that looks like a pretty light
trailer.  Shouldn't be a problem.  It'd look really pretty behind a
Mercedes.

I think a small trailer is the best of both worlds, really.  You aren't
tempted to bring along too much stuff, but you can sleep off the ground
where your stuff won't get wet if there's a rainstorm.  I used to
borrow
my parents' Jayco pop-up camper and tow it behind my Volvo 240 wagon.




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Re: [MBZ] Too big for Gump?

[Curt Raymond]

Showed that to my wife last night. I've been trying chase down a 300CD lately, 
I think that trailer would be slick behind it. She thought it would be pretty 
cool, life on the open road...

 

-Curt

 

Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:47:51 -0700
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redghost wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/101882076.html
> 
> Would this be too much to tow behind Gump?

Ultimately it depends on the weight, but that looks like a pretty light
trailer.  Shouldn't be a problem.  It'd look really pretty behind a
Mercedes.

I think a small trailer is the best of both worlds, really.  You aren't
tempted to bring along too much stuff, but you can sleep off the ground
where your stuff won't get wet if there's a rainstorm.  I used to 
borrow
my parents' Jayco pop-up camper and tow it behind my Volvo 240 wagon.




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Dow, Vermonters can be yankees all they want, their maple syrup is almost as 
good as ours...

 

-Curt

about to spend a week in Caribou cutting firewood.

 

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>The test for a Yankee in Vermont is, " Does he eat apple pie for
>breakfast?"

No, no. Real Yankees are from Maine. And the answer is  "Auyh."


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Re: [MBZ] Bio prices

[Kevin]

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 09:33:42PM -0700, ernest breakfield wrote:
> $3.249 for B99 in San Jose CA this afternoon,... prices for #2 are all over
> the chart.

Really? Where? That's cheaper than dino pretty much everywhere else in the
bay area.

Looks like someone's making a trip to san jose soon...

K

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

[Kevin]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:30:23PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Is there something wrong with me or what?  Anytime I measure plugs cold 
> they always measure around 1.2 ohms, even brand new ones.

A lot of meters aren't very sensitive below a few ohms, unless you have a 
high end meter used for real small electronics.

For your meter, that is the value of a good plug. A different meter might 
think something else.

K

Re: [MBZ] Found an engine

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Its not pulling anything up, is the VIN correct?

BillR wrote:


Kaleb - You seem willing to help out with VIN checks.  Had I known I would
have go got through so much I'd have gotten a subscription to CarFax.  I
have great hope that this will be the last one needed.  If you would run one
for me I would be most appreciative:
WDBCB20A8BB012838Should come back to a 1981 300D[of some sort].  200K.
Brian from AutoWorx says he changed the oil every 3K until he bought a newer
model and took this one into their shop for parting out.
Thanks - 
BillR

Finally drying out in Jacksonville, FL
1981 300SD  the EM   265K  /  200K on the engine [I hope]
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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Is there something wrong with me or what?  Anytime I measure plugs cold 
they always measure around 1.2 ohms, even brand new ones.


Marshall Booth wrote:

Constantine N. Polites wrote:


I'd check the resistance of each glow plug, which should be around 8-11 
ohms.  Above that,  consider changing the glow plug.



Properly functioning parallel plugs have a cold resistance of about 0.6 
ohms (hot they may be almost twice that).


Marshall


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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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[MBZ] Casey cars

[redghost]

 http://makeashorterlink.com/?V2B032FEB

wonder if he knows something we do not
--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 35

[BillR]

--

Message: 19
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:23:02 -0400
From: TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Old Lady vs. SL
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

This is hilarious. Guess who wins?

http://willsthrills.com/movie.php?mid=oldladyvsbenz.wmv

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

Tim - I used to think I could get around computers pretty well.  Guess not.
I can get nothing to play on the link, just the site and a blank black
screen.  Suggestions?  If this is the old lady crossing the street with a
jerk in a convertible I did see it when I clicked the earlier link.
BillR
Jacksonville FL  
1981 300SD  the EM   265K / 200K engine [I hope]

Re: [MBZ] midwest car ads

[redghost]

great price on that SL

On Thursday, October 6, 2005, at 04:16 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:



380SL, rebuilt engine, repainted, $5k
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=BI3260281



--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Prom, was cool swap

[Gary Thompson]

Being a good daddy is 99% of what it takes to turn children into good,
productive people. I've yet to see a child with a strong, caring father
figure regularly involved in their lives turn out badly yet.
   Gary Thompson (with 2 boys and 2 girls, done the prom thing twice so
far...)
1995 E320
1984 300D for sale

 On 10/6/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here here. I know lots of fams with many children (and
> some with few children) and when they learn to obey,
> be polite and think and speak coherently as early as
> possible, they RARELY turn out to be problem
> children...if ever. Being a Catholic, I cannot leave
> out that they learn and practice their Faith early.
> That doesn't mean you don't worry about them at times
> and that they don't occasionally screw up, but that's
> raising children.
>
> I think Lt. Don is convinced I can't pay for my
> children, which is funny, b/c he has never seen my
> budget sheet or my tax return. Sure, a teenager might
> want a Mustang. I wanted a 560SEL when I was in 7th
> grade (or so - I'm 32)...did I get one? HELL NO!
> Connie is the oldest of 9 and they were dirt poor
> farmers...all the simblings are wonderful people, with
> good jobs and real/decent lives.
>
> Lt. Don must like getting me going on this, cuz he
> keeps bringing it up. I'm tired of answering. If my
> daughters are all drug addicts and whores in 20 years,
> then I'll go weep on his 72 year old shoulder...but
> till then, I'll just worry about being a good daddy.
>
> out. Chris
>

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Lee Levitt]

Andrew wrote:


::: If you buy both cars we will be able to enjoy your
::: "compare and contrast" essays.

Um, the thought *had* crossed my mind. My wife drives her '96 A6 
quattro wagon for business, putting some 20K miles on per year. At 
some point our son will need a car.

If I had prior experience with diesels, and in particular, 
biodiesel as a fuel, I might do more than think about it...

But I'm not putting my wife in a vehicle that I don't know yet. 
Last thing I need is her calling me from work, or from a customer 
location, saying that her car won't start due to the cold...

I have to experience a New England winter with a diesel car before 
I'm willing to convert her too...

Lee

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Alex Chamberlain]

Not in the USA, though perhaps it doesn't matter since parts are still
readily available for both (unlike for the 3-liter 24-valve six
[OM606?]).

On 10/6/05, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 3 litre motor is
> more common than the 2.5.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] Hurricane snow ties

[Russ Maki]

David Brodbeck wrote:


Russ Maki wrote:
 


I prefer bags of playbox sand.
   



Do the home improvement stores out there still sell those nifty long,
thin, Quickrete Tubesand bags?  Those were great.
 


Yep. Home Depot seems to move a lot of them in the winter.

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[andrew strasfogel]

If you buy both cars we will be able to enjoy your "compare and contrast"
essays.


 On 10/6/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Hendrik, is there a significant weight penalty for the
> wagon?
>
> What's the relative difference in mpg I should see between the two
> motors? Significant?
>
> The wagon is white with a burgandy interior. The sedan is light
> blue with a navy leather interior.
>
> Lee
>
>
> On Thu Oct 06 06:46:53 PDT 2005, Hendrik Riessen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The difference in speed/power should be inconsequential due to
> > the 3 litre being a older design and having to pull along a wagon
> > as compared to the 2.5 being in a sedan.
> > If you are worried about mpg go for the 2.5 however if you want
> > the extra versatility go for the tourist.
> > The 3 litre motor is a very proven design and more common than
> > the 2.5.
> > What are the colour combinations?
> >
> > Hendrik
> > with a 2.3 litre dragging a 123 around, not great speed or mpg's
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choices...
> >
> >
> >> Lee Levitt wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, should have specified.
> >>>
> >>> The '93 has 175K, the '87 has 190K. The '93 has been properly
> >>> mainted (oil
> >>> changed every 3K, parts replaced as necessary, etc). The '87
> >>> has been
> >>> enthusiast maintained beyone average. For instance the current
> >>> owner
> >>> replaced all the bushings in the suspension to restore the
> >>> "tight" feel.
> >>
> >> The 300 is faster, the 2.5 gets better mpg, the difference in
> >> condition
> >> between anal-retentive maintenance and "we change the oil when
> >> the shop
> >> tells us to" is worth thousands. I doubt you will have to catch
> >> up on
> >> deferred maintenance with the 87, and you may have to replace the
> >> biodegradeable wiring harnes on the 93. (but the 93 will get
> >> better mpg)
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Re: [MBZ] O/T YAnkee Qualifications

[andrew strasfogel]

Thanks, Peter. Very infromative, insightful, and educational - all in one.
 Peter's posting demonstrates why I love this list!! The daily messages
comprise a condensed (though haphazard) course of continuing education (aka
Life 101). But then again, I am the ultimate generalist so I love off-topic
displays of membership knowledge, expertise, and humor

 On 10/6/05, Peter Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:54:27 -0400
> From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Just curious how can you can label yourself a "recovering Yankee" in
> Iowa. Last II looked they were pretty far north and had freezy
> winters, according to LT Don...
>
> ___SNIP
>
> Being Yankee is more than location.
>
> To most of the world, a Yankee is anyone from the United States.
>
> To an American, a Yankee is someone from the north.
>
> Northerners refer to all New Englanders as Yankees
>
> If you are luck enough to live in New England, true Yankees are known
> to live in Vermont.
>
> The test for a Yankee in Vermont is, " Does he eat apple pie for
> breakfast?"
>
> --
>
> Peter T. Arnold
> Windsor, Connecticut
> U.S.A.
>
> 1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
>
> 1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
>
> 2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
>
> 1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
>
> None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
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Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel/wvo topics

[Christopher McCann]

agreed

CM

--- Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
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> 
> Bring all these posts over here.  Let's have some
> good chats on the list  
> Kaleb created for such bio fuels.
> 
> See ya'll on the green side!
> 
> -- 
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> Alma, Ark
> '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
> '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
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(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1987 300TD, 149K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do 
not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, 
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Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel/wvo topics

[andrew strasfogel]

Hot tip! If you want to try to profit on the growth of biodiesel, check out
ADM...

On 10/5/05, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/biodiesel_striplin.net
>
> Bring all these posts over here. Let's have some good chats on the list
> Kaleb created for such bio fuels.
>
> See ya'll on the green side!
>
> --
> Luther KB5QHU
> Alma, Ark
> '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
> '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
> '82 300D(parts) '90 300E (for trade??)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

[Marshall Booth]

Constantine N. Polites wrote:



I'd check the resistance of each glow plug, which should be around 8-11 
ohms.  Above that,  consider changing the glow plug.


Properly functioning parallel plugs have a cold resistance of about 0.6 
ohms (hot they may be almost twice that).


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

Re: [MBZ] cheap MOG in IN

[andrew strasfogel]

How do you haul anything on that stubby little platform?

On 10/5/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nice looking 1973 406 diesel moggie for $7500, that's cheap, right?
> http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=6-33568
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bio prices

[Russ Maki]

ernest breakfield wrote:


at that price, it better be a hell of a pail!;-)


cheers!
e
 

Yeah, I was stunned. Five bucks a gallon. This is a mainstream fuel/oil 
distributor, complete with pump islands and fleet contracts.


The whole biodiesel market is in its infancy here in SE Wisconsin. 
Pretty sad, consiering what's going on in neighboring states. In 
Minnesota the government has mandated a small biodiesel content in all 
the diesel fuel sold in the state. I don't like fuel mandates, but they 
can, at least, prompt a startup of some industrial capacity. We've got 
fuel-grade ethanol plants popping up here to produce gasoline oxygenator 
for the EPA requirement.


Russ Maki

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires and rants

[Russ Maki]

Bill R. wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Glowplug Light Comes Back On...

[Marshall Booth]

Kevin wrote:



IIRC, it's either a 21 or 22mm wrench (or deepish socket that will not 
fit around the oil filter canister or IP) needed to get the glow plugs out.


I believe the wrench that Mercedes supplied in the tool kit was 20.8 mm 
(that's about 13/16")!


Marshall
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159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

Re: [MBZ] Prom, was cool swap

[Christopher McCann]

Here here. I know lots of fams with many children (and
some with few children) and when they learn to obey,
be polite and think and speak coherently as early as
possible, they RARELY turn out to be problem
children...if ever. Being a Catholic, I cannot leave
out that they learn and practice their Faith early.
That doesn't mean you don't worry about them at times
and that they don't occasionally screw up, but that's
raising children.

I think Lt. Don is convinced I can't pay for my
children, which is funny, b/c he has never seen my
budget sheet or my tax return. Sure, a teenager might
want a Mustang. I wanted a 560SEL when I was in 7th
grade (or so - I'm 32)...did I get one? HELL NO!
Connie is the oldest of 9 and they were dirt poor
farmers...all the simblings are wonderful people, with
good jobs and real/decent lives.

Lt. Don must like getting me going on this, cuz he
keeps bringing it up. I'm tired of answering. If my
daughters are all drug addicts and whores in 20 years,
then I'll go weep on his 72 year old shoulder...but
till then, I'll just worry about being a good daddy.

out. Chris



--- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My contention ($.02) is that the self-discipline
> (responsibility) (or lack 
> of...) is instilled by age 5.  From there on it only
> needs 
> reinforcement.  Give young kids responsibility, and
> they will respond.  by 
> the time they hit Jr high, it only  needs
> reinforcement.   In HS, then you 
> can trust them to solo.
> 
> It also gives them the smarts to realize that most
> of the crap in 
> (public)school is socialistindoctrination.
> 
> At 07:01 PM 10/5/2005, you wrote:
> >I didn't have any problems on prom night with my
> three girls, but they
> >were used to following the rules by then. Strange,
> I guess, but we
> >trusted them, and they trusted us. Lucky I guess.
> >
> >On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Lt. Don is full of doom and gloom! In twenty
> years -
> > > if Lt. Don is still around :-) - we'll revisit
> this
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have two words for Chris, who has multiple
> > > > nightmares ahead of him.
> > > >
> > > > (1) PROM (2) NIGHT.
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> >
> >--
> >OK Don, KD5NRO
> >Norman, OK
> >'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
> >The FSM created the Diesel Benz
> >http://www.venganza.org/
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-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1987 300TD, 149K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do 
not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, 
pre-chambers, etc.)



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[MBZ] Old Lady vs. SL

[TimothyPilgrim]

This is hilarious. Guess who wins?

http://willsthrills.com/movie.php?mid=oldladyvsbenz.wmv

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Lee Levitt]

Thanks Hendrik, is there a significant weight penalty for the 
wagon?

What's the relative difference in mpg I should see between the two 
motors? Significant?

The wagon is white with a burgandy interior. The sedan is light 
blue with a navy leather interior.

Lee


On Thu Oct 06 06:46:53 PDT 2005, Hendrik Riessen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The difference in speed/power should be inconsequential due to 
> the 3 litre being a older design and having to pull along a wagon 
> as compared to the 2.5 being in a sedan.
> If you are worried about mpg go for the 2.5 however if you want 
> the extra versatility go for the tourist.
> The 3 litre motor is a very proven design and more common than 
> the 2.5.
> What are the colour combinations?
> 
> Hendrik
> with a 2.3 litre dragging a 123 around, not great speed or mpg's
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choices...
> 
> 
>> Lee Levitt wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, should have specified.
>>> 
>>> The '93 has 175K, the '87 has 190K. The '93 has been properly 
>>> mainted (oil
>>> changed every 3K, parts replaced as necessary, etc). The '87 
>>> has been
>>> enthusiast maintained beyone average. For instance the current 
>>> owner
>>> replaced all the bushings in the suspension to restore the 
>>> "tight" feel.
>> 
>> The 300 is faster, the 2.5 gets better mpg, the difference in 
>> condition
>> between anal-retentive maintenance and "we change the oil when 
>> the shop
>> tells us to" is worth thousands. I doubt you will have to catch 
>> up on
>> deferred maintenance with the 87, and you may have to replace the
>> biodegradeable wiring harnes on the 93. (but the 93 will get 
>> better mpg)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Found an engine

[Gary Thompson]

Remember, Bill, that an '81 300SD will be a turbodiesel, and an '81 300D
will be NA. I'm sure you're aware of that, but just wanted to note that for
the record.
  Gary Thompson
1984 300D for sale
1995 E320


 On 10/6/05, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kaleb - You seem willing to help out with VIN checks. Had I known I would
> have go got through so much I'd have gotten a subscription to CarFax. I
> have great hope that this will be the last one needed. If you would run
> one
> for me I would be most appreciative:
> WDBCB20A8BB012838 Should come back to a 1981 300D[of some sort]. 200K.
> Brian from AutoWorx says he changed the oil every 3K until he bought a
> newer
> model and took this one into their shop for parting out.
> Thanks -
> BillR
> Finally drying out in Jacksonville, FL
> 1981 300SD the EM 265K / 200K on the engine [I hope]
>

[MBZ] Found an engine

[BillR]

Kaleb - You seem willing to help out with VIN checks.  Had I known I would
have go got through so much I'd have gotten a subscription to CarFax.  I
have great hope that this will be the last one needed.  If you would run one
for me I would be most appreciative:
WDBCB20A8BB012838Should come back to a 1981 300D[of some sort].  200K.
Brian from AutoWorx says he changed the oil every 3K until he bought a newer
model and took this one into their shop for parting out.
Thanks - 
BillR
Finally drying out in Jacksonville, FL
1981 300SD  the EM   265K  /  200K on the engine [I hope]

[MBZ] Hurricane tires

[Wilton Strickland]

I've had good service from my regular tires before, during and after
hurricanes for well over 50 yrs.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Hendrik Riessen]

The difference in speed/power should be inconsequential due to the 3 litre 
being a older design and having to pull along a wagon as compared to the 2.5 
being in a sedan.
If you are worried about mpg go for the 2.5 however if you want the extra 
versatility go for the tourist.

The 3 litre motor is a very proven design and more common than the 2.5.
What are the colour combinations?

Hendrik
with a 2.3 litre dragging a 123 around, not great speed or mpg's

- Original Message - 
From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choices...



Lee Levitt wrote:


Sorry, should have specified.

The '93 has 175K, the '87 has 190K. The '93 has been properly mainted 
(oil

changed every 3K, parts replaced as necessary, etc). The '87 has been
enthusiast maintained beyone average. For instance the current owner
replaced all the bushings in the suspension to restore the "tight" feel.


The 300 is faster, the 2.5 gets better mpg, the difference in condition
between anal-retentive maintenance and "we change the oil when the shop
tells us to" is worth thousands. I doubt you will have to catch up on
deferred maintenance with the 87, and you may have to replace the
biodegradeable wiring harnes on the 93. (but the 93 will get better mpg)

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[MBZ] O/T speaking of Yankees and others...

[Royce Engler]

City officials just announced the official Houston
2006 Hurricane Evacuation Plan:

Hispanics use I-10 West to San Antonio

Cajuns use I-10 East to Lafayette

Rednecks use 59 North to East Texas

Republicans fly Continental to Washington, DC

Yankees and Democrats use 45 South to Galveston

Longhorns use 290 West to Austin

Aggies use the 610 Loop


I've been down for a while...my hard drive crashed on the way back from Fort
Worth after Rita.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K

[MBZ] Biodiesel update.

[Donald Snook]

Earnest Breakfield wrote re: biodiesel:

 

there's no 'shock to the system'; it's just a different fuel and you
can go back and forth and mix to your hearts content. the only shock may
be the one you experience when you hear how much smoother the engine

runs and how much better it smells.;-)

 

 

I did follow several listers advice and tried the biodiesel. There is an
oil company here in Wichita that sells B100 in large pails. I ran my car
until the reserve light had just come on, then added the whole bucket of
B100.  I drove the remainder of the weekend on that.  Then I put 5
gallons of dino in.  They also have B2 at several pumps.  They told me
they are probably going to offer B20 at the pump (which I think sounds
like the way to go). At any rate, I did not notice a change in the
engine sound, but I did notice a DRAMATIC reduction in black smoke!  It
was a totally different experience.  I also thought the car felt a
little "zippier" that could have been my imagination, or it might have
just been that the biodiesel really did clear out some built up gunk. I
changed the secondary (spin on) filter. I have not changed the primary
filter, but it is nearly clear, so I am keeping an eye on it.  

 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you
have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.  

 

Re: [MBZ] Snow tires for sale

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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it thru.  What is this walt, are you sending this or do you have a 
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[MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

[Constantine N. Polites]

..indicates that ( 1) you may have one or more glow plugs which are 
defective, (2) harness may be defective   (3)
glow plug relay (transformer) may be defective.  All of these issues are 
addressed in the CD.


I'd check the resistance of each glow plug, which should be around 8-11 
ohms.  Above that,  consider changing the glow plug.


Constantine

Re: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

[Rusty Cullens]

The new # is 001 545 98 32

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:50 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

Somewhere I have it written down the afterglow control for my 83  
300TDt would be
Bosch 0 281 003 096 and perhaps the MB part number is 025 545 5432

anyone know if that is correct?

With winter coming on, I thought I would move to the afterglow  
controller and I plan to visit
a junk yard or two and see if I get lucky with the few diesels lying  
about. However having confirmation
on the part numbers is best before I pull and pay for something.  
Assuming anything is there, besides I'm
sure I could find some other part for the fleet in any case, also  
it's an excuse to poke about...

PS Yes all my glow plugs are post glow bosch.

John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1992 300TDt  148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)



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Re: [MBZ] OT Yankees

[Lee Levitt]

> 
> >
> >The test for a Yankee in Vermont is, " Does he eat apple pie for 
> >breakfast?"
> 
> No, no. Real Yankees are from Maine. And the answer is  "Auyh."
> 

Actually, people from Maine are either Mainiacs, Puffy People, or New
Englandahs. They're not often called Yankees.

Lee
Redneck Yankee

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Mitch Haley]

Lee Levitt wrote:
> 
> Sorry, should have specified.
> 
> The '93 has 175K, the '87 has 190K. The '93 has been properly mainted (oil
> changed every 3K, parts replaced as necessary, etc). The '87 has been
> enthusiast maintained beyone average. For instance the current owner
> replaced all the bushings in the suspension to restore the "tight" feel.

The 300 is faster, the 2.5 gets better mpg, the difference in condition
between anal-retentive maintenance and "we change the oil when the shop
tells us to" is worth thousands. I doubt you will have to catch up on
deferred maintenance with the 87, and you may have to replace the
biodegradeable wiring harnes on the 93. (but the 93 will get better mpg)

Re: [MBZ] positive pressure system (was Jug of soy)

[Potter, Tom E]

Was this an intended pun?

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:13 PM
To: Christopher McCann
Cc: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] positive pressure system (was Jug of soy)


... DE is dirt cheap ...

-Dave Walton

Re: [MBZ] OT Yankees

[Mike Canfield]

According to the "Alabamians" I used to live with when I was there:
Yankee:  A northerner who comes to visit.
Damn Yankee:  A Northerner who doesn't go home.

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Yankees



>

The test for a Yankee in Vermont is, " Does he eat apple pie for
breakfast?"


No, no. Real Yankees are from Maine. And the answer is  "Auyh."


--
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Freelance Writing and Photography
515/279-4825
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Now "from away," with deep ancestry in northern Maine.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Yankees

[Dan Weeks]

The test for a Yankee in Vermont is, " Does he eat apple pie for
breakfast?"


No, no. Real Yankees are from Maine. And the answer is  "Auyh."


--
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515/279-4825
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Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Lee Levitt]

Sorry, should have specified. 
 
The '93 has 175K, the '87 has 190K. The '93 has been properly mainted (oil
changed every 3K, parts replaced as necessary, etc). The '87 has been
enthusiast maintained beyone average. For instance the current owner
replaced all the bushings in the suspension to restore the "tight" feel.
 
Lee


  _  

From: Sunil Hari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Choices...


Really simply, the 93 is 6 years newer, so that car probably has more life
in it.  But also, what are the mileages of each car?  


On 10/6/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I'm looking at two cars, an '87 wagon with the 3 liter motor, and a '93
sedan with the 2.5 liter.

Both have been well kept.

Money aside, which would be the nicer, more reliable car to own? I'm aware
that the '93 has a second airbag and *may* have ASD. Any other significant
differences (other than the motor)? Which is a better (longevity, fuel 
economy, acceleration, etc) motor?

Thanks,

Lee



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Re: [MBZ] Choices...

[Sunil Hari]

Really simply, the 93 is 6 years newer, so that car probably has more life
in it. But also, what are the mileages of each car?

On 10/6/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm looking at two cars, an '87 wagon with the 3 liter motor, and a '93
> sedan with the 2.5 liter.
>
> Both have been well kept.
>
> Money aside, which would be the nicer, more reliable car to own? I'm aware
> that the '93 has a second airbag and *may* have ASD. Any other significant
> differences (other than the motor)? Which is a better (longevity, fuel
> economy, acceleration, etc) motor?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lee
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Choices...

[Lee Levitt]

I'm looking at two cars, an '87 wagon with the 3 liter motor, and a '93
sedan with the 2.5 liter.

Both have been well kept.

Money aside, which would be the nicer, more reliable car to own? I'm aware
that the '93 has a second airbag and *may* have ASD. Any other significant
differences (other than the motor)? Which is a better (longevity, fuel
economy, acceleration, etc) motor?

Thanks,

Lee

[MBZ] midwest car ads

[Mitch Haley]

140 500SEL, 73k, $6000 firm. Paging Regina Striplin!
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=CHI0220103

"AMG" 140 4.0, 98k, $10,500, are those tires or did you stretch rubber bands 
around the
rims?
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=BIL3261194D

140 4.0 109k, $8700
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=BMLI0340365

Another 140 4.0, this one hit front, good air bags, $3k:
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=262-93070

123 turbo, no price, nice body, no hood star:
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=5-54564

380SL, rebuilt engine, repainted, $5k
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=BI3260281

88 420 SEL, $2750
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=14-88405

[MBZ] Snow tires for sale

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[MBZ] O/T YAnkee Qualifications

[Peter Arnold]

Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:54:27 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just curious how can you can label yourself a "recovering Yankee" in
Iowa.  Last II looked they were pretty far north and had freezy
winters, according to LT Don...

___SNIP

Being Yankee is more than location.

To most of the world, a Yankee is anyone from the United States.

To an American, a Yankee is someone from the north.

Northerners refer to all New Englanders as Yankees

If you are luck enough to live in New England, true Yankees are known
to live in Vermont.

The test for a Yankee in Vermont is, " Does he eat apple pie for
breakfast?"

--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

[MBZ] Acetone in Fuel

[Peter Arnold]

Subject: [MBZ] 33 1/3 increase in Diesel fuel mileage...Huh?
To: MB List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

For the chemically inclined among us: If one were to add 1.5 oz of
ordinary
store-bought Acetone to every 10 gallons of diesel fuel, would the
acetone
in that concentration cause any damage to seals, gaskets, injector
pumps
etc?

I ask this for I was listening to a Nationally syndicated late night
talk
show last week, and the guest said he had great success in his gasser
using
2.5 oz of acetone per 10 gallons and achieving a 1/3 increase in fuel
mileage. He also commented that this increase was possible only if he
used
premium gasoline and the gasoline did not have an alcohol additive.

But what caught my ear was the guest's comments about improved diesel
fuel
mileage.

__SNIP__

How to reply………

This fellow's employment history includes:

1)  Sold "Spark Intensifiers" at the Annual Podunk Fair.
2)  Nigerian national with secret bank account numbers.
3)  Wrote news releases for 60 Minutes.
4)  Does Horsepower calculations for K&N Filters.
5)  Sold Genuine Rolex watches on a street corner in New York.

Got to use a little common sense here.  If you add about 05% BTU
content to your fuel tank, you are a fool to expect a 33% energy
increase.

Unless of course you put STP in your crankcase..


Help me, I can't stop..

--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel

[ernest breakfield]

hi Tarek!

yes.
i've run almost exclusively B100 in our unmodified 300D for most of the
last 25K miles over the last couple of years with no ill effect.
having seen the experiences of the many BioD users in this area, i think
the concerns over fuel lines leaking on our cars are much overstated; i'd
watch the fuel lines as i would with most any other vehicle of that vintage,
and replace them with something better when/if they start to show seepage.

oddly enough, the only cars i know to have had fuel line failures when
using BioD were an ancient neglected VW, and 2 practically new MBZ E320 CDIs.



cheers!
e

'85 300D - 145k miles
B100 in Berkeley


Tarek Elshenawy wrote:

> Hello all. I was wondering if I can run B20 in my '77 240D and '87 300SDL
> without any modifications. Is this possible? Thanks in advance.
>
> Tarek

Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel

[ernest breakfield]

hi Donald!

just pump some B99-B100 in it to give it a try; it'll mix with
however much you've got in the tank. run it lower before you fill it if
you want a higher ratio, but it will blend and run in any ratio.

don't spill it on the paint. if you do, hose it off, don't wipe it;
BioD makes a lovely paint and rubber adhesive remover.

you should *always* be ready with fresh fuel filters in a diesel.
BioD may quite likely clean your fuel system out and loosen up gunk
that's accumulated from running #2; they higher a concentration of BioD
you use, the faster it'll happen.
i never had an clogging when i switched to B100 in my car, but the
previous owner had apparently used good fuel and fuel additives and
there wasn't much gunk built up. i changed filters just before i started
using B100 and with the next few oil changes, but that was it.

there's no 'shock to the system'; it's just a different fuel and you
can go back and forth and mix to your hearts content. the only shock may
be the one you experience when you hear how much smoother the engine
runs and how much better it smells.;-)


cheers!
e


Donald Snook wrote:

> Thanks for sending the link to places that sell Biodiesel, Ed.  I
> think I can find the station in Wichita.
>
> This question is for anybody – Which blend of Biodiesel should I try?
> My car is 1990 300D 2.5 (247K miles).
>
>  I don’t know the difference between B20, B100, or whatever the other
> blends are?  Anything I need to know when putting this in my car?
> Should I be ready with new fuel filters?  Does the Biodiesel really
> clean all the gunk out and therefore may clog the filters?  Any
> suggestions are welcome.  I don’t know the price difference, but I
> thought I would at least try a tank. I think I have about 3/8 of a
> tank of regular diesel in my car now. Should I wait and do a full tank
> of Bio or should I mix the two now, so it is not such a shock to the
> system? Is it okay to go back and forth between bio and regular?  This
> station is not close to my house and when I travel I get diesel on the
> turnpike.
>
> Donald H. Snook
>

Re: [MBZ] Jug of soy

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Lee wrote:

> Dave writes:
> > 
> > I thin with Diesel or Kerosene. You will have to play with 
> > the percentages yourself. A lot depends on the type and 
> > condition of the waste oil. I just dump in all in the tank. I 
> > don't premix. You have to thin more was it gets colder.
> > 
> 
> Wait a minute. You just take the waste oil and pour it into the fuel tank?
> 
> I thought you had to go through some processing before it was usable.

There are three ways to use vegi oil in a diesel.

 * VO (vegitable oil) - this is clean, new oil. Depending on what plant
it came from and how it was processed it may be too thick at fuel-tank
temperatures. This can be fix with a tank heater (usually the VO is in
a second tank with dino-diesel in the first) dino is used for start-up
and shutdown 'cause it's hard to heat fuel in the lines and pumps. Or
it can be mixed with dino in the main tank. The dino-diesel is used to
dilute the VO enough that it doesn't need a heater. It's often not
necessary to filter and de-water VO.

 * WVO (waste vegitable oil) - Much more variable, but usually much
cheaper. WVO must be filtered and de-watering is a usually a good plan.
Then it's basically the same as VO - heater or blend.

 * Biodiesel - Startes life as VO or WVO, but is then "transesterfied"
chemically. It's properties do vary with the base stock, but in
shirt-sleeve weather it is a "drop-in" replacement for dino-diesel.

For more info, join the biodiesel list!
http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/biodiesel_striplin.net

Philip, dreamin' of biodiesel

Re: [MBZ] Bio prices

[ernest breakfield]

at that price, it better be a hell of a pail!;-)


cheers!
e


Russ Maki wrote:

> I was on the phone the other day with a fuel/oil distributor who's
> getting into biodiesel. For the record, Wolf Oil of Slinger, Wis.. He
> had me interested until he told me their price for B-100 -- $25+ for a
> 5-gallon pail!! Boutique fuel, with an emphasis on the "boutique."
>
> Ron Dwelle wrote:
>
> >Just went to fill up. B-20 bio-diesel is $0.10/gallon higher than dino.
> >Trying to figure out how that could be. $3.199 for dino and $3.299 for
> >B-20.
> >
> >Ron Dwelle
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Prom, was cool swap

[Loren Faeth]

My contention ($.02) is that the self-discipline (responsibility) (or lack 
of...) is instilled by age 5.  From there on it only needs 
reinforcement.  Give young kids responsibility, and they will respond.  by 
the time they hit Jr high, it only  needs reinforcement.   In HS, then you 
can trust them to solo.


It also gives them the smarts to realize that most of the crap in 
(public)school is socialistindoctrination.


At 07:01 PM 10/5/2005, you wrote:

I didn't have any problems on prom night with my three girls, but they
were used to following the rules by then. Strange, I guess, but we
trusted them, and they trusted us. Lucky I guess.

On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lt. Don is full of doom and gloom! In twenty years -
> if Lt. Don is still around :-) - we'll revisit this
> issue.
>
> Chris
>
> --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have two words for Chris, who has multiple
> > nightmares ahead of him.
> >
> > (1) PROM (2) NIGHT.
> >
> > Don
> >

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
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Re: [MBZ] Bio prices

[ernest breakfield]

$3.249 for B99 in San Jose CA this afternoon,... prices for #2 are all over
the chart.


cheers!
e


Ron Dwelle wrote:

> Just went to fill up. B-20 bio-diesel is $0.10/gallon higher than dino.
> Trying to figure out how that could be. $3.199 for dino and $3.299 for
> B-20.
>
> Ron Dwelle
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Re: [MBZ] Glowplug Light Comes Back On...

[Marshall Booth]

Sunil Hari wrote:

i found it really easy to get my glowplugs out on my 84 300D with a 12mm
ratcheting wrench. Sockets were too awkward to fit.


Works great on OM61x engines, but almost impossible with OM60x engines 
(especially turbos).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Snow Tired for sale

[Craig McCluskey]

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I don't know why Walt is attaching .bat files.

The attachment says,

Snow Tires for Sale:
I have 2 studded snow tires for sale
Cooper Weather master S/T
P197/70 R 14  M/S, These were used on my W126.
Tires have 96% original tread almost new __$20 each

Also have extra wheel (15 hole) in New
Condition___.$60
All located in Everett, Washington..30 miles North of Seattle

Walt Lasher
W140  S350
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Craig

[MBZ] Snow Tired for sale

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[MBZ] Biodiesel/wvo topics

[Luther Gulseth]

http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/biodiesel_striplin.net

Bring all these posts over here.  Let's have some good chats on the list  
Kaleb created for such bio fuels.


See ya'll on the green side!

--
Luther  KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D(parts) '90 300E (for trade??)

Re: [MBZ] Not for MAC cars

[dave walton]

Please keep posting the lists. I look forward to them.

-Dave Walton

Re: [MBZ] Hurricane snow ties

[David Brodbeck]

Russ Maki wrote:
> I prefer bags of playbox sand.

Do the home improvement stores out there still sell those nifty long,
thin, Quickrete Tubesand bags?  Those were great.

Re: [MBZ] humor? (was: Re: 99 E300D)

[redghost]

DUDE!! it was a joke!  If you want me to check out the E300, I would be 
glad to.  You squeaked about the long list of cars after Mac did, so 
you get a poke to go with the squeak.


On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, at 11:14 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:


that's sad, and proof again that humor is not universal...
   i don't find ignorance or a lack of an ability to understand the
greater picture the least bit amusing.


cheers!
e


I am available to look at it, if anybody is at all interested.  I 
know

Earnest is not.


Nicemade my afternoon with that bit of humorstill chuckling 
as I

type this.

Dave W


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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Too big for Gump?

[David Brodbeck]

redghost wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/101882076.html
> 
> Would this be too much to tow behind Gump?

Ultimately it depends on the weight, but that looks like a pretty light
trailer.  Shouldn't be a problem.  It'd look really pretty behind a
Mercedes.

I think a small trailer is the best of both worlds, really.  You aren't
tempted to bring along too much stuff, but you can sleep off the ground
where your stuff won't get wet if there's a rainstorm.  I used to borrow
my parents' Jayco pop-up camper and tow it behind my Volvo 240 wagon.

Re: [MBZ] Glowplug Light Comes Back On...

[Kevin]

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 10:42:09PM -0400, Sunil Hari wrote:
> i found it really easy to get my glowplugs out on my 84 300D with a 12mm
> ratcheting wrench. Sockets were too awkward to fit.

The older plugs have a bigger 'nut' on them that you use to unscrew them.
A 12mm worked fine on my 87 300D, but was nowhere near big enough for the
series plugs on the 78 300D.

K

Re: [MBZ] Not for MAC cars

[David Brodbeck]

I vote to keep posting the lists.  They're not that frequent, and
everyone's computer has a functioning Delete key.

Personally, even though I'm not currently in the market for a car, I
find the lists interesting as a way of seeing what's out there and what
prices are like.  Eventually, my car will wear out and then the lists
will be directly useful to me.  Sorting through pages of Craigslist
entries to find the few that are makes and models I might be interested
in is pretty tedious.

Re: [MBZ] Glowplug Light Comes Back On...

[Sunil Hari]

i found it really easy to get my glowplugs out on my 84 300D with a 12mm
ratcheting wrench. Sockets were too awkward to fit.

On 10/5/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 07:04:17PM -0700, Bob Rentfro wrote:
> > Remind me, freinds, what it means when the glowplug light comes back on
> for
> > a few seconds immediately after the car starts.
> >
> > Bob Rentfro
> > '77 300D 141K
> > Litchfield Park, AZ
>
> Bob,
>
> In the case of my brother's 78 300D, it meant that there was something up
> with the glow system. About two months later, it turned into a hard to
> start condition as the weather cooled. You probably won't have THAT
> problem
> in the phoenix area :)
>
> Marshall sent me a diagnostic that was way easier than the CD, so I
> forwarded
> it to you. In my case, I had just enough resistance built up in the #2
> hole from carbon that the #1 plug wasn't getting all it was supposed to.
> LT Don's suggestion of beating it with a stick - literally, remove glow
> plug,
> stuff a small piece of wood in there to break apart the carbon, then
> replace the plug - was spot on what fixed the problem.
>
> IIRC, it's either a 21 or 22mm wrench (or deepish socket that will not
> fit around the oil filter canister or IP) needed to get the glow plugs
> out.
>
> Good luck...
>
> K
>
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Re: [MBZ] Too big for Gump?

[redghost]

Queen of Denial would not approve.  I think it would make a nice little 
hunting trailer, but maybe the bears thing it holds tasty treats?



On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, at 10:32 AM, OK Don wrote:


Depends on how much of a hurry you're in? Ought to be fine behind Cleo
though 

On 10/5/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/101882076.html

Would this be too much to tow behind Gump?


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz



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Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] afterglow controller.

[Marshall Booth]

John M McIntosh wrote:
Somewhere I have it written down the afterglow control for my 83  
300TDt would be

Bosch 0 281 003 096 and perhaps the MB part number is 025 545 5432

anyone know if that is correct?

With winter coming on, I thought I would move to the afterglow  
controller and I plan to visit
a junk yard or two and see if I get lucky with the few diesels lying  
about. However having confirmation
on the part numbers is best before I pull and pay for something.  
Assuming anything is there, besides I'm
sure I could find some other part for the fleet in any case, also  
it's an excuse to poke about...



A preglow (new OR used) relay that has sat without use for a months or 
years will be FAR less reliable than one that's been regularly used. 
Disuse is about as bad abuse as it's possible to inflict on that device.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

[MBZ] Glowplug Light Comes Back On...

[Bob Rentfro]

Remind me, freinds, what it means when the glowplug light comes back on for a 
few seconds immediately after the car starts.

Thanks.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 07:04:17PM -0700, Bob Rentfro wrote:
> Remind me, freinds, what it means when the glowplug light comes back on for
> a few seconds immediately after the car starts.
>
> Bob Rentfro
> '77 300D 141K
> Litchfield Park, AZ

Bob,

In the case of my brother's 78 300D, it meant that there was something up
with the glow system. About two months later, it turned into a hard to
start condition as the weather cooled. You probably won't have THAT problem
in the phoenix area :)

Marshall sent me a diagnostic that was way easier than the CD, so I forwarded
it to you. In my case, I had just enough resistance built up in the #2
hole from carbon that the #1 plug wasn't getting all it was supposed to.
LT Don's suggestion of beating it with a stick - literally, remove glow plug,
stuff a small piece of wood in there to break apart the carbon, then
replace the plug - was spot on what fixed the problem.

IIRC, it's either a 21 or 22mm wrench (or deepish socket that will not
fit around the oil filter canister or IP) needed to get the glow plugs out.

Good luck...

K

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

[Royce Engler]

Depends on where it is... If it's out on the west side, MPH
(http://www.mphauto.com/) is a good shop.  If it's on the far north side,
Bertini's
(http://www.bertini-s-european-service-center-00137099.yellowpages-ads.com/)
in the Woodlands is good.  There are others, I'm sure, but those are two I
have used.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K





-Original Message-
From: Chuck Landenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:36 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?


Hi All,

I'm considering an '87 190E 16V in Houston.  Let me know who
you would suggest to do a PPI?

Or if anyone on the list would check it out?

Thanks,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD

[MBZ] Fwd: Re: cool swap

[Christopher McCann]

--- Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 17:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cool swap
> To: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> you should be around in 12 years...
> 
> Hey! I'm not at work - at a friends house getting
> ready to filter a BIG batch of VO for our round trip
> to Wisconsin this weekend to pick up a garden
> tractor.
> WIFE APPROVES, it will save money on the trip -
> we'll
> be on VO the whole time. cool.
> 
> Oh, 5 girls...Anneliese will arrive in 24 days + or
> -
> a few. :-)
> 
> Chris (outnumbered, and considered absolutely INSANE
> by Lt. Don)
> 
> 
> --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > TWENTY years? Dude, take your daughters' current
> > ages and add 12. They do
> > start going to prom at around 14 or so. You have
> > four daughters, right?
> > 
> > I am not full of doom and gloom. I am full of
> > reality.
> > 
> > I do plan to be around in 20 years. Riding a trike
> > BMW at the age of 72. You
> > might find me starring in a Viagra commercial. "It
> > works, but damn it, I
> > forget why this is so important."
> > 
> > "I'm up for it ... but what the hell is "it"
> > anyway?"
> > 
> > On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lt. Don is full of doom and gloom! In twenty
> years
> > -
> > > if Lt. Don is still around :-) - we'll revisit
> > this
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have two words for Chris, who has multiple
> > > > nightmares ahead of him.
> > > >
> > > > (1) PROM (2) NIGHT.
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/5/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why, yes it does! My teenager doesn't mind
> the
> > > > back of the SDL at all
> > > > > - lots of room to slouch, stretch, squirm,
> > > > whatever else he does back
> > > > > there!
> > > > > I am getting tired of hauling all that air
> > back
> > > > and forth to work
> > > > > every day, so am looking for that great
> steal
> > on a
> > > > 124 or 201. I might
> > > > > even get by with pulling what you just did,
> > and
> > > > get the wife in the
> > > > > SDL, and sell the van ('97 Ply. grand
> Voyager,
> > > > 3.3) before it goes
> > > > > belly up.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > 300SD has plenty of room...SDL has a
> > rediculous
> > > > amount
> > > > > > of room...doesn't it OK Don?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > > > > Norman, OK
> > > > > '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC
> > > > > The FSM created the Diesel Benz
> > > > > http://www.venganza.org/
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
> > > >
> > > > http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City,
> > Missouri
> > > -1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" (
> > >
> >
>
http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
> > > -1987 300TD, 149K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little
> Red
> > Riding Hood)
> > > -1976 240D, ManyK miles, "AKP-Wagen"
> (Alternativen
> > Kraftstoffs
> > > Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
> > running
> > > WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt
> > this unless you are willing
> > > to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers,
> > etc.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
__
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> > > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
> > > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 1977 240D
> > 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
> > 
> > http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
> > 
> 
> Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City,
> Missouri
> -1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf"
>
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
> -1987 300TD, 149K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red
> Riding Hood)
> -1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen
> Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test
> Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do
> not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice
> your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
> 
> 
>   
> __

Re: [MBZ] G-wagon, was 33 1/3 increase in Diesel fuel mileage...Huh?

[John M McIntosh]

I don't own it so it's hard for me to comment, mind I did poke about  
a bit a year back
deciding if getting one would be good thing.  Somehow the $20-25K Cdn  
needed wasn't there.


a) It's a truck, expect poor milage & poor acceleration.
b) See above, goes anywhere, my friend uses his to haul dead deer  
from the back country.
c) 20+ year old truck, expect to replace lots of suspension  
components. Not much different than say 25 year old 300D.
d) 617's can be converted to turbo 617's, watch for baffled oil pan &  
custom exhaust headers etc to get things to fit.

e) Expect anything from cloth roughness to burl walnut A/C
f) If you picked up an 82 300D what would you expect to have to  
replace/fix/refurbish/do maintenance on?

g) Snow what's that goes anywhere

My dealer here in Canada says they now have access to European EPC  
which has made life way
easier for dealing with Euro stuff. IE, sit down with VIN, type in,  
order things


PS the fellow I got the 92 300 TDt from, had a burl walnut outfitted  
5 door 300GD, *very nice* Very much NOT FOR SALE



On 5-Oct-05, at 5:40 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:


Okay, now you have my attention. Are the G-Wagens a handful?

One of the local shops plans to import some used from the  
Fatherland, have a
shorty on display out front. LOTS of interest, including from yours  
truly.


I think they want to concentrate on diesels. The one they have now  
is an

OM617.


Mac
Aylmer, Quebec
'60 220s / '82 240d (x2) / 82 300sd
'75 Volvo 164e
Plus a '97 Eagle Talon ESi that flew into my driveway, not mine




John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1992 300TDt  148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] 33 1/3 increase in Diesel fuel mileage...Huh?

[Steve MacSween]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Required someone who knew what they were doing to adjust it correctly.
> Price of gas drove that decision, versus say the pending truck fire.
> Mind I think at points there he would have welcome the truck fire...

Okay, now you have my attention. Are the G-Wagens a handful?

One of the local shops plans to import some used from the Fatherland, have a
shorty on display out front. LOTS of interest, including from yours truly.

I think they want to concentrate on diesels. The one they have now is an
OM617.


Mac
Aylmer, Quebec
'60 220s / '82 240d (x2) / 82 300sd
'75 Volvo 164e 
Plus a '97 Eagle Talon ESi that flew into my driveway, not mine

Re: [MBZ] 33 1/3 increase in Diesel fuel mileage...Huh?

[John M McIntosh]

Ya, my friend's 280GE with the badly adjusted lamba which:

a) gave him about 10 mpg.
b) made the floor about the CAT *very* hot.

Required someone who knew what they were doing to adjust it correctly.
Price of gas drove that decision, versus say the pending truck fire.
Mind I think at points there he would have welcome the truck fire...

On 5-Oct-05, at 5:05 PM, OK Don wrote:


Which is how you ignite your carpet -- the cats get a tad bit hot when
you run rich for very long.

On 10/5/05, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ah, that is one of the things the catalytic converter does for you it
deals with the unburnt hydrocarbons (aka fuel).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter

"Hence the combustion (redox) process continues, but outside the
engine's combustion chamber, so no useful energy is extracted."

[MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

[Chuck Landenberger]

Hi All,

I'm considering an '87 190E 16V in Houston.  Let me know who  
you would suggest to do a PPI?


Or if anyone on the list would check it out?

Thanks,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD

Re: [MBZ] CarFax Request...

[Chuck Landenberger]

Kaleb,

Thanks,

Chuck
 

[MBZ] I need help with an OM 628 motor

[Kayoooh]

Hello List,

I would appreciate it very much if someone can direct me to where I can find
detailed explanation on the theory of operation and it's implementation of
the 4L OM628 engine (aka 400 CDI). Any exploded diagrams of this motor and
the names of it's component will also be very helpful.

Some of you may remember my complaint of an unpleasant, high pitch
clattering sound that is heard only upon startups and I would really love to
chase the sound and identify the part emitting it. This task will be made
more difficult with brief duration of the sound but I must find a solution
since it seems to be getting worse.

I have suspected the sound to be coming from a leaking lifter/lifters on the
right bank and/or a collapsed chain tensioned. I am astonished that this has
happened to this motor even though it has less than 50,000 miles! I did
replace the motor oil with Mobil1, 4000 miles ago in hope of resolving this
issue but as I have said, it seems to have gotten worse.

Thank you all,

Omar.

[MBZ] cool swap

[LT Don]

TWENTY years? Dude, take your daughters' current ages and add 12. They do
start going to prom at around 14 or so. You have four daughters, right?

I am not full of doom and gloom. I am full of reality.

I do plan to be around in 20 years. Riding a trike BMW at the age of 72. You
might find me starring in a Viagra commercial. "It works, but damn it, I
forget why this is so important."



On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Lt. Don is full of doom and gloom! In twenty years -
> if Lt. Don is still around :-) - we'll revisit this
> issue.
>
> Chris
>
> --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have two words for Chris, who has multiple
> > nightmares ahead of him.
> >
> > (1) PROM (2) NIGHT.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > On 10/5/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why, yes it does! My teenager doesn't mind the
> > back of the SDL at all
> > > - lots of room to slouch, stretch, squirm,
> > whatever else he does back
> > > there!
> > > I am getting tired of hauling all that air back
> > and forth to work
> > > every day, so am looking for that great steal on a
> > 124 or 201. I might
> > > even get by with pulling what you just did, and
> > get the wife in the
> > > SDL, and sell the van ('97 Ply. grand Voyager,
> > 3.3) before it goes
> > > belly up.
> > >
> > > On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 300SD has plenty of room...SDL has a rediculous
> > amount
> > > > of room...doesn't it OK Don?
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > > Norman, OK
> > > '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC
> > > The FSM created the Diesel Benz
> > > http://www.venganza.org/
> > >
> > > ___
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 1977 240D
> > 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
> >
> > http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
> > ___
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>
>
> Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> -1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" (
> http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
> -1987 300TD, 149K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
> -1976 240D, ManyK miles, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs
> Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running
> WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing
> to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
>
>
>
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1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

Re: [MBZ] 33 1/3 increase in Diesel fuel mileage...Huh?

[OK Don]

Which is how you ignite your carpet -- the cats get a tad bit hot when
you run rich for very long.

On 10/5/05, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, that is one of the things the catalytic converter does for you it
> deals with the unburnt hydrocarbons (aka fuel).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter
>
> "Hence the combustion (redox) process continues, but outside the
> engine's combustion chamber, so no useful energy is extracted."
>

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] 33 1/3 increase in Diesel fuel mileage...Huh?

[John M McIntosh]

Ah, that is one of the things the catalytic converter does for you it  
deals with the unburnt hydrocarbons (aka fuel).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter

"Hence the combustion (redox) process continues, but outside the  
engine's combustion chamber, so no useful energy is extracted."


Also see backfiring.

On 5-Oct-05, at 4:55 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:

Great gasser theory but if really true then your gasser would be  
belching

unburned gas fumes.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 33 1/3 increase in Diesel fuel mileage...Huh?


There was
On 5-Oct-05, at 7:34 AM, Marshall Booth wrote:



A properly running diesel is VERY efficient.



There was some discussion of that in the mercedes shop magazine a few
issues back if I may paraphrase as compared to gassers, it was
interesting
because of the concepts we take for granted.

a) Gassers fill the cylinder with fuel/air, you compress and ignite
the mixture with one or more spark plugs, because of how
the explosive wave form travels it usually leaves unburned fuel at
the outer edges of the "cold" cylinder wall, so you never consume all
the fuel.
Diesels on the other hand inject fuel into hot air, the fuel explodes
consuming all the fuel since the fuel usually does not reach a cold
spot in the cylinder before igniting.

b) Gassers require vacuum to pull fuel air/mixture into cylinder, and
provide the ventura effect for carburettors, a side effect of this is
engine braking on hills and manifold vacuum to drive door locks.
However pulling a vacuum by the pistons actually requires lots of
energy, so you consume more gas to produce the manifold vacuum,
perhaps lots more energy than a vacuum pump. I realize that fuel
injection and turbo gassers change this equation, still air volume
and gasoline is varied resulting in manifold vacuum on most gassers.
Diesel don't have this problem, so less energy required to idle since
the engine is not spending energy being a huge vacuum pump.

c) Diesel fuel by volume has lots more energy than gas, so less is
needed to do a given amount of work.

John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1992 300TDt  148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)



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Re: [MBZ] CarFax Request...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190E
VIN WDBDA34DXHF299792
Body Style 4 Door Sedan
Country of Manufacture Germany


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1994-05-13 TX 92712 odometer reading from dmv
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1998-04-29 houston, TX  registration event/renewal
1998-04-29 houston, TX 192019 failed emission inspection
2000-02-21 spring, TX  registration event/renewal
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Chuck Landenberger wrote:


Kaleb,

Do you still have a carfax account?  If so, would appreciate one on  
this 16V VIN..


WDBDA34DXHF299792

Thanks ...

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Oct 5, 2005, at 10:25 AM, redghost wrote:



http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/101882076.html

Would this be too much to tow behind Gump?


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 

Re: [MBZ] cool swap

[OK Don]

I didn't have any problems on prom night with my three girls, but they
were used to following the rules by then. Strange, I guess, but we
trusted them, and they trusted us. Lucky I guess.

On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lt. Don is full of doom and gloom! In twenty years -
> if Lt. Don is still around :-) - we'll revisit this
> issue.
>
> Chris
>
> --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have two words for Chris, who has multiple
> > nightmares ahead of him.
> >
> > (1) PROM (2) NIGHT.
> >
> > Don
> >

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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/