[MBZ] Dallas Charity auction 300CD

[Rich Thomas]

Some bits missing:

http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=8697&vType=1

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Re: [MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC

[Hendrik Riessen]

My 230E has crank windows and colour coordinated steel hubcaps. I like it 
like that.


Tasteless Hendrik

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC



Crank windows and old hubcaps.  Tasteless, sort of like Tom Cruise wearing
high heals, Bermuda shorts and a halter top.

On 12/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1979-Mercedes-280SLC-4-Speed_W0QQitemZ4594459549QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: [MBZ] W123 rear spring/trailing arm removal

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

PS, also dont forget to unbolt the axle from the arm. You can probably 
get away with not having to open the diff and removing the axle 
completely, should be able to just leave it in place in the diff and 
just remove it from the outboard side.


tom savage wrote:

I need to replace a rear trailing arm on my '82 300D.  I've got a new 
one from OkiePartz ready to go in, but I'm curious about the removal of 
the old one.  The manual tells me I need to pull the entire rear axle 
assembly, but my own inspection says this is unnecessary, correct?  The 
other point that really has me wondering is rear spring removal.  I'm 
told that a spring compressor is not required for this.  Can I safely 
remove the spring after loosening the bolts at the pivot points on the 
trailing arm and slowly lowering the arm under a floor jack?  Again, it 
looks like it, but given the amount of energy stored in these things, I 
think I'm better off not finding out the hard way.


For those wondering why I would want to do such a thing, I had a rather 
nasty surprise on the way home from work the other day: 
http://thomas.savage.org/notgood.jpg


Thanks,
Tom

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Re: [MBZ] W123 rear spring/trailing arm removal

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Here is what you do, shouldnt take more than a couple of hours.  Jack 
car way up.  Put jack under the diff, unbolt it from the car, lower it. 
 Put jack under the subframe/control arm on the side you are doing, and 
then remove the huge single bolts from that side.  Lower assembly.  Then 
you can get to the 2 swing bolts and undo them.  Oh yea, dont forget to 
unbolt the shock and unbolt the caliper.  Lower the arm down and the 
spring will fall out.  Its not under very much pressure at all.  Install 
is reverse.


tom savage wrote:

I need to replace a rear trailing arm on my '82 300D.  I've got a new 
one from OkiePartz ready to go in, but I'm curious about the removal of 
the old one.  The manual tells me I need to pull the entire rear axle 
assembly, but my own inspection says this is unnecessary, correct?  The 
other point that really has me wondering is rear spring removal.  I'm 
told that a spring compressor is not required for this.  Can I safely 
remove the spring after loosening the bolts at the pivot points on the 
trailing arm and slowly lowering the arm under a floor jack?  Again, it 
looks like it, but given the amount of energy stored in these things, I 
think I'm better off not finding out the hard way.


For those wondering why I would want to do such a thing, I had a rather 
nasty surprise on the way home from work the other day: 
http://thomas.savage.org/notgood.jpg


Thanks,
Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 & 6.5 Diesel engines

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yea, thats ones worth 1800 unless something major is wrong with it.

Rick Knoble wrote:


I posted one a couple days ago from the Lexington Craig's List. It is
probably gone by now.
http://lexington.craigslist.org/car/114587375.html

Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 & 6.5 Diesel engines




Hello folks,
As some of you may remember I am actively looking for a Suburban with the
6.2/6.5 motor and during my search I have been hearing a lot of


conflicting


statements on the reliability and mileage of said vehicles with those
particular motors. I was told by some to expect no more than 12 MPG while
others claim it to be 20+ MPG!!
What's up with this?

The advice/views of those who know this vehicle/motor, will be highly
appreciated.

Thank you all,

Omar.


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Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Hendrik Riessen]

Me thinks it might be a doggy responsiple for that type of damage.

Hendrik

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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot


Also, whoever usually sat in the left rear seat needs to see a doctor about
his indigestion...pronto!

Lee



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Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Also, you got to wonder what is lurking under 
those seat covers.


Steve MacSween wrote:


someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240-D-
83-MERCEDES-BENZ-240-TURBO-DIESEL-RUNNING-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ4


594504320QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I just asked the seller this question:

"Is the turbo on this car original or has it been replaced? You can tell by
looking at the turbo mechanism on the right side of the engine. It will have
a large orange "Fälschung" sticker on the waste gate."



You guys are wasting your time. Any car lot that uses "Running Condition!'
as the main callout in a listing is, um, well not flying during the daytime.

I especially like the wire with the scotchlocks, sticking out from beside
the Becker. I imagine that's all factory work.

Someone e-mail him and tell him it's got the RARE factory front n'center
armrest option, which increases the value by $200.

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Ed Booher]

On 12/1/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> looking at the turbo mechanism on the right side of the engine. It will have
> a large orange "Fälschung" sticker on the waste gate."

You, sir, are an Evil Genius! You obviously study hard.

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[MBZ] 450SLC Headlight failure

[Robert N Conrad]

Gentlemen,

Just got on this group and got a question.
Was gifted a '78 450SLC and the headlights
don't work except when the high beam flash
switch is operated.  This puts the failure in the 
light switch or hi/lo beam switch circuit.
My question is, how do you get at the wiring 
behind the dash?  It seems like the dash was
designed by the same guy that designed Fort
Knox.

My thanks for any help!

-Bob

Re: [MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC

[Jeff Zedic]

And the damn fool has the headrests in backwards!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Peter Frederick]

Depends on whether the rods bend or not.  If so, usually pretty short 
life (much less than 100,000 miles).  I not, I've seen one with 350,000 
in for an oil change, never been worked on.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

[Mitch Haley]

"J.B. Hebert" wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where I can find a reasonably priced glow plug
> chamber reamer for an OM606 motor? 

If you know how wide it's supposed to be, hammer a glow plug
flat until it's the right width.

Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?

[Mitch Haley]

David Brodbeck wrote:
> Unfortunately, travel by air with tools has gotten risky.  I used to
> know a guy who routinely did it for work.  He said that once the new
> security regulations were enacted and he had to stop locking his tool
> bag, he usually lost one tool per trip.  The most popular item for
> sticky-figured TSA personnel to take seemed to be his Leatherman.

I took Amtrak to pick up my last car. Train was 40 minutes late
when it picked me up and it just got worse after that, but I
knew where my tools were the whole time.

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[l02turner]

I know others have said a new MB crate engine is the only way to go -- my 
question is how long would the original, damaged engine last?


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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From: "Jim Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:23 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL



160k miles, good condition, worth $5600?



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Re: [MBZ] 350sdl

[l02turner]

Any idea how much a crate engine from MB will cost?


Hmm... I wonder if that 350 engine would fit into my 240D?  ;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T (78 240D)

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From: "Constantine N. Polites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 350sdl




The 350SDL is worth the the $ 5,600, for the chassis alone.  You must 
count on replacing  the motor- it will fail.  The
motor should be purchased as a rebuilt unit from Mercedes, with a 50,000 
mile guarantee or 4 years.  Do not consider
any other options.  To do this you must be prepared to perform the labor 
yourself or have deep pockets.


Regards,
Constantine

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[MBZ] MERCEDEZ-BEND 300HD

[Steve & Marci]

Heres a real interesting add outa Auto Treadersometimes you gota wonder 
:-|   NO affiliation or interest


MERCEDEZ-BEND 300HD, very xlnt cond in/out, runs immac, emerald 
isle/palomino, very well maint'd, at, pwr st, snrf, ac, cc, pdl, pb, ps, 
pw, new whls, cd/stereo, tp of the line, ncst in twn, crrnt tgs, alwys 
grgd. $3,500 obo. Portland, Or



Regards
Steve
"85" Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
"79" 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
"94" Dodge/Cummins 5.9, 5 spd, 100K
"82" TD project wagon
"64" VW Bug
"65" D15, AC tractor 

Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?

[Rory]

One other option I used to use when I was at Xerox was I would ship
parts on Greyhound and my techs in San Deigo would have them that day.

Rory


On 12/1/05, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OR just buy some new tools when you get there. It is always nice to have a
> good excuse to buy tools. I have a nice ratchet that I enjoy using (along
> with some other stuff like sockets ) that I bought once when we were away
> from home and I had failed to take my toolbox with. I changed out a water
> pump on an 86 Taurus in the parking lot of a motel while my wife made trips
> accross the parking lot to the Target or Wal-Mart stores to get things I had
> forgotten on my trip through the parts and tools stores, like hand cleaner,
> paper towel, a screwdriver etc.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> If you are retrieving a remote car and you want to have tools, consider
> FedEx Ground or even the Post Office flat rate box ($7.75 for as much as you
> can stuff in it). FedEx Ground is pretty cheap.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?

[R A Bennell]

OR just buy some new tools when you get there. It is always nice to have a
good excuse to buy tools. I have a nice ratchet that I enjoy using (along
with some other stuff like sockets ) that I bought once when we were away
from home and I had failed to take my toolbox with. I changed out a water
pump on an 86 Taurus in the parking lot of a motel while my wife made trips
accross the parking lot to the Target or Wal-Mart stores to get things I had
forgotten on my trip through the parts and tools stores, like hand cleaner,
paper towel, a screwdriver etc.

Randy

-Original Message-
If you are retrieving a remote car and you want to have tools, consider
FedEx Ground or even the Post Office flat rate box ($7.75 for as much as you
can stuff in it). FedEx Ground is pretty cheap.

Lee

Re: [MBZ] OT another VW diesel possibility for me

[Zeitgeist]

I also have the dial indicator setup, but have set the timing on many
of these by just using the timing marks on the cam, injection pump and
crank pulley.  The last time I changed the timing belt on our former
'96 Passat tdi, I used this method.  Those particular pumps can't
accept the dial indicator I have, and I don't have the VAG-COM
software.  I brought it into a local VW shop afterward for a software
confirmation of my timing, and it was absolutely spot-on.

On 12/1/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Frederick wrote:
> > There is a plug in the center of the distributor that is removed to set
> > the timing.  Any dial indicator with a long stem will work so long as
> > you can secure it, but the sleeve that screws in to hold the indicator
> > is very nice
> >
>
> This place sells the sleeve and stem extension alone for $60, or you can
> get them together with a dial indicator for $95:
> http://www.vwdieselparts.com/tools.htm
>
> I bought one from them a few years ago and it worked well.  Some people
> swear by setting the timing on VW diesels by ear, but I've always been a
> dials-and-gauges sort of guy.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] OT another VW diesel possibility for me

[Loren Faeth]

BEFORE you spend a nickel anywhere else, try running it with an auxiliary 
electric fuel pump, OR if stationary, hold a can of fuel up above the 
engine and run a hose to the fuel filter "in" line.


Is the problem starting, or running?  My Quantum would crank forever before 
starting.  The tank is below the engine/pump.  There is NO transfer pump on 
the VW, at least in the 80s.  I stuck the electric fuel pump on, and it was 
immediately cured.  Yes, I did replace lines and look for leaks.  Probably 
was a rust dot on the steel line under a body clamp.


If it gets foamy fuel while running, I don't know, but the electric pump 
may help.  The previous post say it will help for a while.


At 03:24 PM 12/1/2005, you wrote:

kevin kraly wrote:
> http://portland.craigslist.org/car/114791054.html
>
> It's a 1981 VW diesel rabbit pickup (caddy) for $1K.  Owner says air gets
> into the fuel line because there's a bad seal on the IP.  Any of you
> resident VW diesel guys have any ideas on this?
>

The cure is a rebuilt pump, assuming the diagnosis is right.  Any small
leak in the fuel lines that will admit air will cause the same symptoms.

Some people have driven them with this problem for quite a while by
adding an electric lift pump.  Eventually the seals on the IP will get
bad enough to weep fuel, though.

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[MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

[J.B. Hebert]

Does anyone know where I can find a reasonably priced glow plug 
chamber reamer for an OM606 motor?  The only one I've found is by 
Klann and costs $160 through Samstag Sales.  I'm sure its quality is 
excellent, but I'm not going to use it often enough that I need the 
very best.  Since I paid about $50 for the one for my OM617, I was 
hoping to find a better deal somewhere.


Thanks,


J.B. Hebert

'76 Ford Bronco / '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 / '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe
'82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) / '93 GMC Sierra 2500 / '95 Mercedes E300D 



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Re: [MBZ] Rhythmic noise coming from shift console, 93 300D

[Lee Levitt]

Gary,
 
Noise is prevalent only on light acceleration. I don't know whether turning
has any effect.
 
I can also minimize the noise by moving the shift lever a bit.
 
I'm thinking transmission mounts. We just did the engine mounts and I'll bet
that the combination of new engine mounts and tired transmission mounts are
causing something to be out of position, as you describe.
 
Otherwise the transmission operates normally...a bit of flaring when its
cold, but that's it. Oh, and by the way, I *just* did a transmission fluid
and filter replacement.
 
Lee
'93 300D 2.5L 179K
 
 


  _  

From: Gary Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rhythmic noise coming from shift console, 93 300D


Should be knock instead of know. Darned spell checker should know what I
meant, not what I typed!


 
On 12/1/05, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Lee,
 
Does it do it less on coasting or acceleration? Turning right or left?
 
I had a situation on my W123 where the transmission shift rod would know
against the transmission housing due to missing bushings. Got worse when
turning a sharp left turn and the rod was thrown against the tranny.

 
 
Gary Thompson
1995 E320



 
On 12/1/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


I'm getting a rhythmic noise coming from the shift console of my '93 300D.
At first I thought it was a speedo cable noise but it's gotten louder and 
it's obviously coming from the console right around the shifter.

I only get it on light acceleration from low speeds, but don't get it at
idle, at constant speed or at full throttle.

Any thoughts on what it could be? 

Thanks!

Lee
'93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K

Re: [MBZ] OT another VW diesel possibility for me

[David Brodbeck]

Peter Frederick wrote:
There is a plug in the center of the distributor that is removed to set 
the timing.  Any dial indicator with a long stem will work so long as 
you can secure it, but the sleeve that screws in to hold the indicator 
is very nice
  


This place sells the sleeve and stem extension alone for $60, or you can 
get them together with a dial indicator for $95: 
http://www.vwdieselparts.com/tools.htm


I bought one from them a few years ago and it worked well.  Some people 
swear by setting the timing on VW diesels by ear, but I've always been a 
dials-and-gauges sort of guy.

Re: [MBZ] OT another VW diesel possibility for me

[David Brodbeck]

kevin kraly wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/car/114791054.html

It's a 1981 VW diesel rabbit pickup (caddy) for $1K.  Owner says air gets 
into the fuel line because there's a bad seal on the IP.  Any of you 
resident VW diesel guys have any ideas on this?
  


The cure is a rebuilt pump, assuming the diagnosis is right.  Any small 
leak in the fuel lines that will admit air will cause the same symptoms.


Some people have driven them with this problem for quite a while by 
adding an electric lift pump.  Eventually the seals on the IP will get 
bad enough to weep fuel, though.

Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?

[Lee Levitt]

David wrote:

> John Ervine wrote:
> > When I purchased my 280S back in August, I took the 
> adventurous route.  
> > I packed a large bag with about 50lbs of tools in it, threw a 
> > combination lock on it so it couldn't easily be opened, and 
> purchased a one-way ticket to DC.
> 
> Unfortunately, travel by air with tools has gotten risky.  I 
> used to know a guy who routinely did it for work.  He said 
> that once the new security regulations were enacted and he 
> had to stop locking his tool bag, he usually lost one tool 
> per trip.  The most popular item for sticky-figured TSA 
> personnel to take seemed to be his Leatherman.

In planning my trip to Raleigh to retrieve my W124, I considered all this. I
ended up carrying onboard my cellphone, a plug-in CB radio, my radar
detector, a 1-3 power splitter, some books on tape, my AA card and that's
it.

I thought about shipping some tools and stuff down to Raleigh via FedEx
Ground, but in the end, didn't bother. In my case, the only thing I needed
to make the 700 mile trip back to Boston was a $.29 ceramic fuse. Coulda
been worse...

If you are retrieving a remote car and you want to have tools, consider
FedEx Ground or even the Post Office flat rate box ($7.75 for as much as you
can stuff in it). FedEx Ground is pretty cheap.

Lee

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's going to Iowa

[David Brodbeck]

Loren Faeth wrote:
My first car was a rusted out 56 Karmann Ghia.  I took it up to the 
courthouse to change the title, and get the license.  They told me it 
didn't exist.  I told them it did, and they could go outside and look at 
it.  In the end, they licensed it as a 56 bug.
  


I think my insurance company worked on a similar principle.  For a while 
I had a '75 Volkswagen Bus that was listed on my insurance as a "1975 
VOLKSWAGON BEETLE VAN."


The same company listed my current car as a "1983 MERCEDIES."

Re: [MBZ] Rhythmic noise coming from shift console, 93 300D

[Gary Thompson]

Should be knock instead of know. Darned spell checker should know what I
meant, not what I typed!



On 12/1/05, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> Does it do it less on coasting or acceleration? Turning right or left?
>
> I had a situation on my W123 where the transmission shift rod would know
> against the transmission housing due to missing bushings. Got worse when
> turning a sharp left turn and the rod was thrown against the tranny.
>
>
> Gary Thompson
> 1995 E320
>
>
>
> On 12/1/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm getting a rhythmic noise coming from the shift console of my '93
> > 300D.
> > At first I thought it was a speedo cable noise but it's gotten louder
> > and
> > it's obviously coming from the console right around the shifter.
> >
> > I only get it on light acceleration from low speeds, but don't get it at
> > idle, at constant speed or at full throttle.
> >
> > Any thoughts on what it could be?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Lee
> > '93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K
> >
> >

Re: [MBZ] Rhythmic noise coming from shift console, 93 300D

[Gary Thompson]

Lee,

Does it do it less on coasting or acceleration? Turning right or left?

I had a situation on my W123 where the transmission shift rod would know
against the transmission housing due to missing bushings. Got worse when
turning a sharp left turn and the rod was thrown against the tranny.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320



On 12/1/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I'm getting a rhythmic noise coming from the shift console of my '93 300D.
> At first I thought it was a speedo cable noise but it's gotten louder and
> it's obviously coming from the console right around the shifter.
>
> I only get it on light acceleration from low speeds, but don't get it at
> idle, at constant speed or at full throttle.
>
> Any thoughts on what it could be?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee
> '93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K
>
>

Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing

[R A Bennell]

I have a 98 Ford F150 and I like the look of it well enough. I can't say
that I like the 04-05 as well. They do look too big and too slab sided to
me. However, check the crash statistics. The 04 and up performs much better
than the earlier versions and much better than Dodge or Chevy. Sometimes you
give up something for something else. I could live with the look if I was in
the mood (financial) to swap to a newer truck.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing


John Robbins wrote:
>
> 96- Ford trucks I like, and the 96+ are super bloated and plasticy
> looking to me.  The new new ones scream "I'm compensating for
> something!"

To me the proportions of the new ones look off...that huge tall
tailgate, mostly.  I guess I still haven't gotten used to the high
beltlines and small greenhouses that designers favor, these days.


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Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?

[David Brodbeck]

John Ervine wrote:
When I purchased my 280S back in August, I took the adventurous route.  I packed 
a large bag with about 50lbs of tools in it, threw a combination lock on it so 
it couldn't easily be opened, and purchased a one-way ticket to DC.


Unfortunately, travel by air with tools has gotten risky.  I used to 
know a guy who routinely did it for work.  He said that once the new 
security regulations were enacted and he had to stop locking his tool 
bag, he usually lost one tool per trip.  The most popular item for 
sticky-figured TSA personnel to take seemed to be his Leatherman.

Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing

[David Brodbeck]

John Robbins wrote:


96- Ford trucks I like, and the 96+ are super bloated and plasticy 
looking to me.  The new new ones scream "I'm compensating for 
something!"


To me the proportions of the new ones look off...that huge tall 
tailgate, mostly.  I guess I still haven't gotten used to the high 
beltlines and small greenhouses that designers favor, these days.

Re: [MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC

[Mitch Haley]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4594459549

I can just imagine Regina stuffing prospective homebuyers in the back seat
of that.

Re: [MBZ] What's a 300B worth?

[LT Don]

Same age as me, and appears to be in better physical shape.

On 12/1/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=CHMI0320028
>
> And here's a newer, cheaper 300:
> http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=8-81347
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[MBZ] What's a 300B worth?

[Mitch Haley]

http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=CHMI0320028

And here's a newer, cheaper 300:
http://www.auto-rv.com/default.asp?area=browsedetail&adname=8-81347

Re: [MBZ] 30 MM gpy. Biodiesel Plant planned for Wyoming

[Christopher McCann]

www.alphakat.de for small diesel plant that can  convert LOTS of stuff to 
diesel...similar to the Cathage turkey guts  plant, but much beter process and 
can be run by two guys and 1  engineer. Wonder if 10 guys could make a living 
at it...
  
  Chris

Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I heard on the radio yesterday that a 
new bd plant is going to built 
near Corpus Christi, did not say what feedstocks it would use.  It 
sounded like it would be rather large too.  I guess those high petro 
prices are starting to make this stuff economical -- are there tax 
breaks involved too?  I know back in the Jimmuh Cahtah cold dark days 
there were all kinds of tax breaks for alternative energy things, lot of 
work on coal, etc. during MEOW (the Moral Equivalent of War), but I 
think they only lasted for 3-5 yr. 

Wonder if setting up a small WVO conversion plant would be feasible?  Is 
that what the co-ops in the W and NW are doing?

--R

Christopher McCann wrote:

>they will obviously be crushing their own seeds. Interesting. Do most BioD 
>plants do that?
>  
>  Chris
>
>andrew strasfogel  wrote:  Firm plans biodiesel plant
>
>By DUSTIN BLEIZEFFER
>Star-Tribune energy reporter Thursday, December 01, 2005
>
>
>
>
>GILLETTE -- A Wyoming-based start-up company plans to build a 30
>million-gallons-per-year biodiesel plant in Campbell County.
>
>It would be the first-ever biodiesel plant in the state and among the
>largest in the nation. It would also create a new opportunity for Wyoming
>farmers to grow camelina, canola, brown mustard and other oil seed crops.
>
>Wyoming Biodiesel Co., a subsidiary of Sheridan-based Energy Fuel Dynamics
>LLC, says it is working with a "strategic partner" to power the facility
>using waste steam. Construction could begin next spring, said business
>development manager Jim Kintz.
>
>Estimated cost to build the plant is from $35 million to $40 million.
>
>"Once the plant was announced, people wanted to buy all of our production,"
>Kintz said.
>
>Biodiesel is produced through a chemical process separating glycerin from
>fat or vegetable oil. The biodegradable, nontoxic fuel can be blended with
>petroleum-based diesel and used in almost any diesel engine with little or
>no modification, according to the National Biodiesel Board, a national trade
>association representing the industry.
>
>The biodiesel production process also generates a high-protein cattle feed
>by-product.
>
>"Our goal is to maximize the use of Wyoming resources for feedstock,
>building state-of-the-art production refinement facilities, expanding
>employment opportunities statewide and consumption of the produced
>bio-fuels," Kintz said.
>
>Energy reporter Dustin Bleizeffer can be reached at (307) 682-3388 or
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>-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf" 
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Re: [MBZ] 30 MM gpy. Biodiesel Plant planned for Wyoming

[Rich Thomas]

I heard on the radio yesterday that a new bd plant is going to built 
near Corpus Christi, did not say what feedstocks it would use.  It 
sounded like it would be rather large too.  I guess those high petro 
prices are starting to make this stuff economical -- are there tax 
breaks involved too?  I know back in the Jimmuh Cahtah cold dark days 
there were all kinds of tax breaks for alternative energy things, lot of 
work on coal, etc. during MEOW (the Moral Equivalent of War), but I 
think they only lasted for 3-5 yr. 

Wonder if setting up a small WVO conversion plant would be feasible?  Is 
that what the co-ops in the W and NW are doing?


--R

Christopher McCann wrote:


they will obviously be crushing their own seeds. Interesting. Do most BioD 
plants do that?
 
 Chris


andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Firm plans biodiesel plant

By DUSTIN BLEIZEFFER
Star-Tribune energy reporter Thursday, December 01, 2005




GILLETTE -- A Wyoming-based start-up company plans to build a 30
million-gallons-per-year biodiesel plant in Campbell County.

It would be the first-ever biodiesel plant in the state and among the
largest in the nation. It would also create a new opportunity for Wyoming
farmers to grow camelina, canola, brown mustard and other oil seed crops.

Wyoming Biodiesel Co., a subsidiary of Sheridan-based Energy Fuel Dynamics
LLC, says it is working with a "strategic partner" to power the facility
using waste steam. Construction could begin next spring, said business
development manager Jim Kintz.

Estimated cost to build the plant is from $35 million to $40 million.

"Once the plant was announced, people wanted to buy all of our production,"
Kintz said.

Biodiesel is produced through a chemical process separating glycerin from
fat or vegetable oil. The biodegradable, nontoxic fuel can be blended with
petroleum-based diesel and used in almost any diesel engine with little or
no modification, according to the National Biodiesel Board, a national trade
association representing the industry.

The biodiesel production process also generates a high-protein cattle feed
by-product.

"Our goal is to maximize the use of Wyoming resources for feedstock,
building state-of-the-art production refinement facilities, expanding
employment opportunities statewide and consumption of the produced
bio-fuels," Kintz said.

Energy reporter Dustin Bleizeffer can be reached at (307) 682-3388 or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf" 
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)

-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Aaron Lam]

Casey,

The interior was upgraded, and that included the new-style seats which
IMO, are infinitely many times better than the old type, pleated
leather door panels instead of the flat perforated leather, and a 
wooden roll-top center console box. To compensate for lack of a
glovebox, the passenger's side underdash panel was sculpted to allow
for small storage space for sunglasses, etc. Other minor interior
changes included a better stereo with speakers in the front doors, an
illuminated sunroof switch, and a leather wrapped steering wheel +
shift knob.

-Aaron
1987 300D
1987 300TD

[MBZ] W123 rear spring/trailing arm removal

[tom savage]

I need to replace a rear trailing arm on my '82 300D.  I've got a new 
one from OkiePartz ready to go in, but I'm curious about the removal of 
the old one.  The manual tells me I need to pull the entire rear axle 
assembly, but my own inspection says this is unnecessary, correct?  The 
other point that really has me wondering is rear spring removal.  I'm 
told that a spring compressor is not required for this.  Can I safely 
remove the spring after loosening the bolts at the pivot points on the 
trailing arm and slowly lowering the arm under a floor jack?  Again, it 
looks like it, but given the amount of energy stored in these things, I 
think I'm better off not finding out the hard way.


For those wondering why I would want to do such a thing, I had a rather 
nasty surprise on the way home from work the other day: 
http://thomas.savage.org/notgood.jpg


Thanks,
Tom

Re: [MBZ] 30 MM gpy. Biodiesel Plant planned for Wyoming

[Christopher McCann]

they will obviously be crushing their own seeds. Interesting. Do most BioD 
plants do that?
  
  Chris

andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Firm plans biodiesel plant

By DUSTIN BLEIZEFFER
Star-Tribune energy reporter Thursday, December 01, 2005




GILLETTE -- A Wyoming-based start-up company plans to build a 30
million-gallons-per-year biodiesel plant in Campbell County.

It would be the first-ever biodiesel plant in the state and among the
largest in the nation. It would also create a new opportunity for Wyoming
farmers to grow camelina, canola, brown mustard and other oil seed crops.

Wyoming Biodiesel Co., a subsidiary of Sheridan-based Energy Fuel Dynamics
LLC, says it is working with a "strategic partner" to power the facility
using waste steam. Construction could begin next spring, said business
development manager Jim Kintz.

Estimated cost to build the plant is from $35 million to $40 million.

"Once the plant was announced, people wanted to buy all of our production,"
Kintz said.

Biodiesel is produced through a chemical process separating glycerin from
fat or vegetable oil. The biodegradable, nontoxic fuel can be blended with
petroleum-based diesel and used in almost any diesel engine with little or
no modification, according to the National Biodiesel Board, a national trade
association representing the industry.

The biodiesel production process also generates a high-protein cattle feed
by-product.

"Our goal is to maximize the use of Wyoming resources for feedstock,
building state-of-the-art production refinement facilities, expanding
employment opportunities statewide and consumption of the produced
bio-fuels," Kintz said.

Energy reporter Dustin Bleizeffer can be reached at (307) 682-3388 or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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probably gone by now.
http://lexington.craigslist.org/car/114587375.html

Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

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Subject: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 & 6.5 Diesel engines


> Hello folks,
> As some of you may remember I am actively looking for a Suburban with the
> 6.2/6.5 motor and during my search I have been hearing a lot of
conflicting
> statements on the reliability and mileage of said vehicles with those
> particular motors. I was told by 

[MBZ] 30 MM gpy. Biodiesel Plant planned for Wyoming

[andrew strasfogel]

Firm plans biodiesel plant

By DUSTIN BLEIZEFFER
Star-Tribune energy reporter Thursday, December 01, 2005




GILLETTE -- A Wyoming-based start-up company plans to build a 30
million-gallons-per-year biodiesel plant in Campbell County.

It would be the first-ever biodiesel plant in the state and among the
largest in the nation. It would also create a new opportunity for Wyoming
farmers to grow camelina, canola, brown mustard and other oil seed crops.

Wyoming Biodiesel Co., a subsidiary of Sheridan-based Energy Fuel Dynamics
LLC, says it is working with a "strategic partner" to power the facility
using waste steam. Construction could begin next spring, said business
development manager Jim Kintz.

Estimated cost to build the plant is from $35 million to $40 million.

"Once the plant was announced, people wanted to buy all of our production,"
Kintz said.

Biodiesel is produced through a chemical process separating glycerin from
fat or vegetable oil. The biodegradable, nontoxic fuel can be blended with
petroleum-based diesel and used in almost any diesel engine with little or
no modification, according to the National Biodiesel Board, a national trade
association representing the industry.

The biodiesel production process also generates a high-protein cattle feed
by-product.

"Our goal is to maximize the use of Wyoming resources for feedstock,
building state-of-the-art production refinement facilities, expanding
employment opportunities statewide and consumption of the produced
bio-fuels," Kintz said.

Energy reporter Dustin Bleizeffer can be reached at (307) 682-3388 or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[andrew strasfogel]

The blue front seat covers alone are worth $1.50 (the pair).



On 12/1/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240-D-
> >> 83-MERCEDES-BENZ-240-TURBO-DIESEL-RUNNING-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ4
> > 594504320QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> > I just asked the seller this question:
> >
> > "Is the turbo on this car original or has it been replaced? You can tell
> by
> > looking at the turbo mechanism on the right side of the engine. It will
> have
> > a large orange "Fälschung" sticker on the waste gate."
>
> You guys are wasting your time. Any car lot that uses "Running Condition!'
> as the main callout in a listing is, um, well not flying during the
> daytime.
>
> I especially like the wire with the scotchlocks, sticking out from beside
> the Becker. I imagine that's all factory work.
>
> Someone e-mail him and tell him it's got the RARE factory front n'center
> armrest option, which increases the value by $200.
>
> Mac
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Re: [MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC

[andrew strasfogel]

Crank windows and old hubcaps.  Tasteless, sort of like Tom Cruise wearing
high heals, Bermuda shorts and a halter top.

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> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] I cant believe what people will try to sell

[John Peterson]

But it has a "clean title"  I'm suprised they didn't say as they often do, 
"easy fix"


John Peterson

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Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Steve MacSween]

someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240-D-
>> 83-MERCEDES-BENZ-240-TURBO-DIESEL-RUNNING-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ4
> 594504320QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> I just asked the seller this question:
> 
> "Is the turbo on this car original or has it been replaced? You can tell by
> looking at the turbo mechanism on the right side of the engine. It will have
> a large orange "Fälschung" sticker on the waste gate."

You guys are wasting your time. Any car lot that uses "Running Condition!'
as the main callout in a listing is, um, well not flying during the daytime.

I especially like the wire with the scotchlocks, sticking out from beside
the Becker. I imagine that's all factory work.

Someone e-mail him and tell him it's got the RARE factory front n'center
armrest option, which increases the value by $200.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] 85 300D

[andrew strasfogel]

My involvement with this list shows my burning desire to become a
pragmatist.

On 11/29/05, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Don,
>
> Are you sure its past tense?; )
>
> At 12:46 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote:
> >Don't forget that Andrew lives and works in DC, so is sort of out of
> touch
> >with what happens outside the Beltway. I was the same way until I moved
> from
> >the area in 1995.
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Re: [MBZ] OH LT DON

[LT Don]

Location. Only a couple of hours away from where I live.

On 12/1/05, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> what makes this so appealing to Lt Don?
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OH LT DON

[Sunil Hari]

what makes this so appealing to Lt Don?

On 12/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-260E-1989-Mercedes-Benz-260E-100-in-free-gas-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4593986843QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 & 6.5 Diesel engines

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Both are good vehicles.  The 6.2 might be a little better because it 
wont have the electronic IP on it.  Wont have as much power though. 
Depending on the rear end, an older 6.2 will get anywhere from 17-18 
city and 20-24 highway.  The 6.5 turbo should be able to do about the 
same, once again, depending on the rear end.  Now my 1 ton 6.5 truck 
will only get about 12 no matter what its doing, but it has 4.10 gears 
in it.


Kayoooh wrote:


Hello folks,
As some of you may remember I am actively looking for a Suburban with the
6.2/6.5 motor and during my search I have been hearing a lot of conflicting
statements on the reliability and mileage of said vehicles with those
particular motors. I was told by some to expect no more than 12 MPG while
others claim it to be 20+ MPG!!
What's up with this?

The advice/views of those who know this vehicle/motor, will be highly
appreciated.

Thank you all,

Omar.


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Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Sunil Hari]

I can't even tell if it's a 4-cyl or 5-cyl.  The fifth injector line looks
like it could be something else

Also, I don't really see an ALDA ...

What is this seller on?

On 12/1/05, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, he IS in Houston.
>
> At 10:59 AM 12/1/2005, you wrote:
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240-D-83-MERCEDES-BENZ-240-TURBO-DIESEL-RUNNING-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ4594504320QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >--
> >Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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[MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 & 6.5 Diesel engines

[Kayoooh]

Hello folks,
As some of you may remember I am actively looking for a Suburban with the
6.2/6.5 motor and during my search I have been hearing a lot of conflicting
statements on the reliability and mileage of said vehicles with those
particular motors. I was told by some to expect no more than 12 MPG while
others claim it to be 20+ MPG!!
What's up with this?

The advice/views of those who know this vehicle/motor, will be highly
appreciated.

Thank you all,

Omar.

Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Loren Faeth]

Well, he IS in Houston.

At 10:59 AM 12/1/2005, you wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240-D-83-MERCEDES-BENZ-240-TURBO-DIESEL-RUNNING-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ4594504320QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Desert Rat]

Very nice interior upgrade starting in MY 1989..

On 12/1/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Tom's answer pretty much mirrors my thoughts. Could be a really nice
> car if you want a late W126 diesel, and are willing to deal with
> potential engine problems. If you're not familiar with the ill-fated,
> rod-bending 3.5L diesel, here's some info for you:
>
> http://www.mbz.org/info/complaints/350SD/
>
> :-)
>
> -Dave M.
>
> > --
> > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:39:59 -0600
> > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL
> >
> >
> > All depends, has the engine been replaced yet. And if not, does it use any
> > oil?
> >
> > If the first answer is "Yes" then it's probably worth the price.
> >
> > If both answers are "no" then it's probably still worth the price as long as
> > you understand that you may be facing engine issues in the near future.
> >
> > If the engine has not been replaced and it's using any amount of oil then
> > I'd run away, fast. And then, maybe Kaleb can buy it for $500.00..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > 256-656-1924
> > www.kegkits.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL

[Loren Faeth]

For my money, the 126 SDL is the best long distance car there is.  Period. 
the end.  I am not convinced there is anything newer or older that is 
better.  They are comfortable, relatively economical, and still attractive 
nearly 30 years after the initial design.  (I was told by someone the 
design concept started in 75)  My 86 is exactly like the car featured in 
the 1986 S class sales booklet.  It is the only car I ever had that I 
thought was beautiful.  the 67 Chevelle SS 396 in bright metallic blue was 
a close second.


I had about $10 grand in my 86 SDL after purchase and initial fixup.  I 
have driven it over 200,000 miles, and it is STILL a wonderful car.  After 
rebuilding the suspension and new Bilsteins, it is now better than 
ever.  It runs strong, and if the cancer didn't get it, i'd never need 
another car.  I'd fix it forever.  Being in a cancer zone, I will probably 
start using it winters only after this winter.  Even with the cancer bug, 
it has been less expensive than any other choice in its size range.  A 123 
will still run cheaper.  a 201 190D or a 124 diesel will probably run 
cheaper. But the 126 is a beautiful, comfortable car.


91 sounds better when you tell neighbors and friends what your car is,  but 
86-91 SDLs are all great, save the 350 engine problems as noted.  If you 
plan to keep and drive the 91 SDL, then if it doesn't have a factory 
replacement engine, factor that into the purchase price.  If you will put 
at least 200K on it, then you can easily justify the cost of a factory 
replacement engine, if it needs one.


At 10:49 AM 12/1/2005, you wrote:

I agree with all of the caution flags shown so far. BUT, having had
the opportunity to ride a long distance with a friend who owned  such
a car, I must believe that it represents the very best possible
combination of a superb ride with an economical power source. It
would be a wonderful car to ownwith a new  Mercedes engine.

Bill Aston
Fort Lauderdale
1983  380 SEC



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Re: [MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Lee Levitt]

Kaleb writes:

> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240-D-
> 83-MERCEDES-BENZ-240-TURBO-DIESEL-RUNNING-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ4
594504320QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I just asked the seller this question:

"Is the turbo on this car original or has it been replaced? You can tell by
looking at the turbo mechanism on the right side of the engine. It will have
a large orange "Fälschung" sticker on the waste gate."

We'll see how he responds. :)

Also, whoever usually sat in the left rear seat needs to see a doctor about
his indigestion...pronto!

Lee

[MBZ] I cant believe what people will try to sell

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-Benz-420-SEL-CLEAN-TITLE-FOR-PARTS-SALE_W0QQitemZ8019202132QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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[MBZ] OH LT DON

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-260E-1989-Mercedes-Benz-260E-100-in-free-gas-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4593986843QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

[MBZ] this weeks ebay idiot

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240-D-83-MERCEDES-BENZ-240-TURBO-DIESEL-RUNNING-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ4594504320QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

[MBZ] MANNY TRANNY SLC

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

[MBZ] 1991 350SDL

[Bill Aston]

I agree with all of the caution flags shown so far. BUT, having had 
the opportunity to ride a long distance with a friend who owned  such 
a car, I must believe that it represents the very best possible 
combination of a superb ride with an economical power source. It 
would be a wonderful car to ownwith a new  Mercedes engine.


Bill Aston
Fort Lauderdale
1983  380 SEC 




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Re: [MBZ] Intermittent Heating Question

[Jim Cathey]

It does *not* resume heating on Max.  The other strange thing is that


Well then it's not the foam hose.  MAX bypasses all temperature control.
Pull the monovalve insert and examine it for tears.  5 minutes and a
screwdriver is all it takes.  Don't lose any of the big washers, and
remember the order they came out!

the car has a turn valve between the auxiliary water pump and the 
heater core.  Not sure why they put this there, others have said this 
is not a production config.  Also the AC doesn't work.


Somebody was having trouble with either the monovalve and/or the control
circuit of same, but coolant wasn't shutting off and they were getting
heat when they didn't want it.  Enter manual valve.

The monovalve gets slow PWM 12V, and when energized corks off the 
coolant

flow.  You can put a test light or meter on it to see if it's getting
told to do reasonable things.

Or just unplug the valve's electrical connector and see if heat shuts 
off

during your drive or not.  If it's still getting cold in the cabin, it's
got to be the valve itself, or some other plumbing problem.

There's a reason the monovalve insert is so cheap and easy to replace!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Intermittent Heating Question

[dieselbenz24]

> My heater works fine for about the first 45 minutes of a trip and then 
> blows just barely luke warm to cold.  Is this the problem of the 
> disintegrating tube from the dash to the thermostat unit ?  Any 
> insight would be appreciated.
 
Quite likely.  If it resumes heating on MAX the chances are good.
Otherwise, perhaps it's the monovalve going out.
-- Jim
 
It does *not* resume heating on Max.  The other strange thing is that the car 
has a turn valve between the auxiliary water pump and the heater core.  Not 
sure why they put this there, others have said this is not a production config. 
 Also the AC doesn't work.
 
Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 89kmi

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Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa

[Loren Faeth]

It is a Euro model that was not available in the USA.  280SE  You can tell 
by the twin cam engine.  They are screamers!


At 08:53 AM 12/1/2005, you wrote:
I think headlights too and also the warning sign  in trunk, although, like 
headlights, you can add that. I found one for  the SD and the plastic 
bracket at the last OkieQ. Everything snaps  right in place. (esp if Lt. 
Don is there to tell you that you've got  the bracket turned the wrong 
way!) Very cool. Also comes with any car  that was European delivery. It's 
very nice b/c the trunk light  illuminates it when it's stowed. ONly prob 
on an SD is the sign is cast  iron and the trunk lid is Aluminum...any 
small wind and you get hid in  the head with the trunk lid.


  Chris

Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  what marks this one as a 
euro?  headlights?  The unintelligible German

on the electronic thingy?

On 11/30/05, redghost  wrote:
> cool  euro model
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2005, at 07:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/
> > eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4593301032
> > --
> > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> > Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Dave M.]

Hi,

Tom's answer pretty much mirrors my thoughts. Could be a really nice
car if you want a late W126 diesel, and are willing to deal with
potential engine problems. If you're not familiar with the ill-fated,
rod-bending 3.5L diesel, here's some info for you:

http://www.mbz.org/info/complaints/350SD/

:-)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:39:59 -0600
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL
>
>
> All depends, has the engine been replaced yet. And if not, does it use any
> oil?
>
> If the first answer is "Yes" then it's probably worth the price.
>
> If both answers are "no" then it's probably still worth the price as long as
> you understand that you may be facing engine issues in the near future.
>
> If the engine has not been replaced and it's using any amount of oil then
> I'd run away, fast. And then, maybe Kaleb can buy it for $500.00..
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Zeitgeist]

Other than the passenger side airbag, and of course the amazing Uri
Geller-like rod-bending magic in the engine compartment, what's
different between the '86 -'87 300SDL and '90< 350SDL?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...

[Christopher McCann]

I have been thinking more and more of taking my bike. Starting the SD at 20 
degrees and driving it 6 blocks is painful.
  
  15 miles on a bike - that's a pretty good work out. I jogged for one  season 
and got from being able to jog for 1 minute (and getting near  heart attack 
level) to being able to go 4.5 miles 3 times/week. I bet  15 miles on a bike is 
about equivalnet to 4.5 miles of jogging. You  must have kept in shape. No 
shower here at work, so in KC summer heat,  even 6 blocks, you might 
get...unpleasant.
  
  Chris

Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Chris writes:

> In 6 blocks I get to 40 C and don't even turn the  heat 
> on...walking would keep me warmer from body heat...being -6.5 
> C  this morning...not sure that I would have enjoyed a 6/10 
> mile walk, esp  with a little wind in my face.

Just think of the possibilities...rather than collecting WVO from the back
of your local fast food store, you can collect fuel from the front of the
FFS and process as you walk :)

>   
>   I have taken the "scenic" route before, taking a 25 mile or 
> so loop to  get to my job, six blocks away. The time I spend 
> commuting is  "decompression" time for me. I listen to 
> Strauss, enjoy the car, the  ride, reflect on the day, etc. 
> Now that I am 6 blocks away, that ever  present period of pre 
> and post work downtime is gone. It's a bit of a  culture 
> shock. It's now, out of bed, step into office...different.

At one point I lived 2.5 miles from my office and commuted by bicycle
whenever possible. On any nice day (temp over 50 degrees and sun shining),
I'd head in the wrong direction to get a good ride (15 mile) ride in before
work. Also great for head clearing.

Lee
'93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K




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> 
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>>http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051130/34061b9d/mb5501fa366x244.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> I double-click on the link and get,
> 
> 
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access
> /pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051130/34061b9d/mb5501fa36
> 6x244.jpg on this server.
> 
> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an
> ErrorDocument to handle the request.
> 
> 
> 
> Wassup?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Images

[L . Mark Finch]

http://www.w123-turbodiesel.de/images/bildergalerie/showroom/w123- 
buedingen6.jpg  (!)


http://www.w123-club.de/html/bildergalerie/galerie.htm

http://www.w123-coupe-club.de/  (click on the Gallerie link)


On Nov 30, 2005, at 2:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Any suggestions?



_
L. Mark Finch
Indianapolis
1982 300D Turbodiesel

[MBZ] 350sdl

[Constantine N. Polites]

The 350SDL is worth the the $ 5,600, for the chassis alone.  You must 
count on replacing  the motor- it will fail.  The
motor should be purchased as a rebuilt unit from Mercedes, with a 50,000 
mile guarantee or 4 years.  Do not consider
any other options.  To do this you must be prepared to perform the labor 
yourself or have deep pockets.


Regards,
Constantine

Re: [MBZ] Images

[Zeitgeist]

wheiuuuw, that's good to know.  I'm down with that sorta pore-n, but
the other kind makes me look at my wife funny and have bad dreams.

On 12/1/05, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Images, what images?  Is this just euphemistic double-speak for porn?
>
> No, it's EDS for something else I been pore-n over.  Think 114/115 ISO
> CD image.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (205k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

[MBZ] Rhythmic noise coming from shift console, 93 300D

[Lee Levitt]

I'm getting a rhythmic noise coming from the shift console of my '93 300D.
At first I thought it was a speedo cable noise but it's gotten louder and
it's obviously coming from the console right around the shifter.

I only get it on light acceleration from low speeds, but don't get it at
idle, at constant speed or at full throttle.

Any thoughts on what it could be?

Thanks!

Lee
'93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K

Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa

[Christopher McCann]

I think headlights too and also the warning sign  in trunk, although, like 
headlights, you can add that. I found one for  the SD and the plastic bracket 
at the last OkieQ. Everything snaps  right in place. (esp if Lt. Don is there 
to tell you that you've got  the bracket turned the wrong way!) Very cool. Also 
comes with any car  that was European delivery. It's very nice b/c the trunk 
light  illuminates it when it's stowed. ONly prob on an SD is the sign is cast  
iron and the trunk lid is Aluminum...any small wind and you get hid in  the 
head with the trunk lid.
  
  Chris

Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  what marks this one as a euro?  
headlights?  The unintelligible German
on the electronic thingy?

On 11/30/05, redghost  wrote:
> cool  euro model
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2005, at 07:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/
> > eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4593301032
> > --
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> >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> > Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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The local MBCA section (b4 I recently joined)  rented out the...Wichita (?) 
speedway...they had a blast...combined it  with some charity event...was NOT 
expensive to participate. I'd have  taken the wagon and tested the 123mph top 
speed rating.
  
  Chris

Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  just get up an hour early and take a 
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Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...

[Christopher McCann]

In 6 blocks I get to 40 C and don't even turn the  heat on...walking would keep 
me warmer from body heat...being -6.5 C  this morning...not sure that I would 
have enjoyed a 6/10 mile walk, esp  with a little wind in my face.
  
  I have taken the "scenic" route before, taking a 25 mile or so loop to  get 
to my job, six blocks away. The time I spend commuting is  "decompression" time 
for me. I listen to Strauss, enjoy the car, the  ride, reflect on the day, etc. 
Now that I am 6 blocks away, that ever  present period of pre and post work 
downtime is gone. It's a bit of a  culture shock. It's now, out of bed, step 
into office...different.
  
  Chris

OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You could take the "scenic" route to work - 
at least to get some cabin
heat -- --



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just get up an hour early and take a lap on the 435 racetrack.

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In 6 blocks I get to 40 C and don't even turn the  heat on...walking would keep 
me warmer from body heat...being -6.5 C  this morning...not sure that I would 
have enjoyed a 6/10 mile walk, esp  with a little wind in my face.
  
  I have taken the "scenic" route before, taking a 25 mile or so loop to  get 
to my job, six blocks away. The time I spend commuting is  "decompression" time 
for me. I listen to Strauss, enjoy the car, the  ride, reflect on the day, etc. 
Now that I am 6 blocks away, that ever  present period of pre and post work 
downtime is gone. It's a bit of a  culture shock. It's now, out of bed, step 
into office...different.
  
  Chris



Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] Intermittent Heating Question

[Jim Cathey]

My heater works fine for about the first 45 minutes of a trip and then 
blows just barely luke warm to cold.  Is this the problem of the 
disintegrating tube from the dash to the thermostat unit ?  Any 
insight would be appreciated.


Quite likely.  If it resumes heating on MAX the chances are good.
Otherwise, perhaps it's the monovalve going out.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Images

[Jim Cathey]

Images, what images?  Is this just euphemistic double-speak for porn?


No, it's EDS for something else I been pore-n over.  Think 114/115 ISO
CD image.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] google video [some MB content]

[Rich Thomas]

Those Long Beach City Council Meeting vids are particularly compelling 
-- I can see them taking up a good part of my morning!


--R

TimothyPilgrim wrote:


And for more fun reviews of other cars:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=top+gear

I love Google Video...

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/30/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


This one addresses current MB quality, and is a fun review of the AMG
CLS55  -- it is rather fast.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2029707267913597892&q=mercedes



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Re: [MBZ] google video [some MB content]

[TimothyPilgrim]

And for more fun reviews of other cars:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=top+gear

I love Google Video...

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/30/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This one addresses current MB quality, and is a fun review of the AMG
> CLS55  -- it is rather fast.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2029707267913597892&q=mercedes
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
> '90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
> The FSM created the Diesel Benz
> http://www.venganza.org/
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Re: [MBZ] google video [some MB content]

[TimothyPilgrim]

I believe the host's name is Gordon Elliot. I like to watch his show
The Genuine Article on the Fine Living channel. Top Gear is also one
of the best auto shows I've seen.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/30/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This one addresses current MB quality, and is a fun review of the AMG
> CLS55  -- it is rather fast.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2029707267913597892&q=mercedes

[MBZ] Intermittent Heating Question

[dieselbenz24]

My heater works fine for about the first 45 minutes of a trip and then blows 
just barely luke warm to cold.  Is this the problem of the disintegrating tube 
from the dash to the thermostat unit ?  Any insight would be appreciated. 
 
Thanks,
 
Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 89kmi
 

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Marshall Booth]

Jim Keefe wrote:

160k miles, good condition, worth $5600?


Only if it has a NEW engine in it or you are willing to put one in 
yourself!


Marshall

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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Images

[Zeitgeist]

Images, what images?  Is this just euphemistic double-speak for porn?

[Mercedes content: I drove my 300D today--it was a good day to drive.]

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (205k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] Images

[Luther Gulseth]

another lovely Kaleb feature.  More commonly known as a screwup.

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:45:23 -0600, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:14:58 -0600 OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Url :
http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051130/34061b9d/mb5501fa366x244.jpg



I double-click on the link and get,


Forbidden
You don't have permission to access
/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051130/34061b9d/mb5501fa36
6x244.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use  
an

ErrorDocument to handle the request.



Wassup?


Craig




--
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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Peter Frederick]

Yes, it's the last of the really good MBs.

Peter

Re: [MBZ] Was: Turbo seal? Now OM603 compression test

[Peter Frederick]

Marshall:

I know of two turbos that have failed in exactly that fashion, one on 
my car and one on someone else's.  Both showed serious lack of boost at 
low speed cold and both showed excessive oil consumption.  One (the MB 
one) blew blue smoke on acceleration.  My volvo TD didn't, but the 
exhaust was full of coked oil and actually caught fire after the turbo 
was replaced (quite an experience, having burning carbon blow out the 
exhaust!).


The failure is not primarily a seal failure, it's a bearing failure.  
They do wear out eventually, and bad bearings usually result in seal 
failure before the turbo stops working altogether.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Images

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:14:58 -0600 OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Url :
> http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051130/34061b9d/mb5501fa366x244.jpg


I double-click on the link and get,


Forbidden
You don't have permission to access
/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051130/34061b9d/mb5501fa36
6x244.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an
ErrorDocument to handle the request.



Wassup?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Images

[LT Don]

I think I could slap another hard drive into my server, if necessary.  Wink
wink nudge nudge.

On 12/1/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, not a whole lot.  Will probably be adding more though pretty soon.
>
> OK Don wrote:
>
> > Images of what, exactly? Between the lot of us, we might have quite a
> > collection, collectively speaking.
> > Have any spare disk space Kaleb?
> >
> > On 11/30/05, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Once upon a time I had a nice collection of images (from Mickey's
> >>site?).  But I had them at work because the internet connection there
> >>was infinitely better than the 20 kbits we then had at home.  Sadly,
> >>I _left_ them at work, because there was no CD burner easily accessible
> >>to me then/there.  So, all that was abandoned there when I
> >>so-unfortunately
> >>found myself out of work.  Anyway, I'm looking at recreating my
> >>collection,
> >>which ought to be dirt-simple to do now that I've got 1+Mbps at home,
> >>and
> >>a nice CD burner on this Mac.
> >>
> >>Any suggestions?
> >>
> >>-- Jim
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > Norman, OK
> > '90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
> > The FSM created the Diesel Benz
> > http://www.venganza.org/
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>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300SD

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:10:41 -0500 "John Peterson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4594239163&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
> 
> He has it for sale locally for $5800.
>
>...
>
> John Peterson
> Kingston, RI

But the auction says it's in California.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Tom Hargrave]

All depends, has the engine been replaced yet. And if not, does it use any
oil?
 
If the first answer is "Yes" then it's probably worth the price.

If both answers are "no" then it's probably still worth the price as long as
you understand that you may be facing engine issues in the near future.

If the engine has not been replaced and it's using any amount of oil then
I'd run away, fast. And then, maybe Kaleb can buy it for $500.00..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

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On Behalf Of Jim Keefe
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

160k miles, good condition, worth $5600?



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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Sunil Hari]

new engine or not?

On 11/30/05, Jim Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 160k miles, good condition, worth $5600?
>
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Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

its a 280

Sunil Hari wrote:


what marks this one as a euro?  headlights?  The unintelligible German
on the electronic thingy?

On 11/30/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


cool  euro model

On Tuesday, November 29, 2005, at 07:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4593301032
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 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Images

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

No, not a whole lot.  Will probably be adding more though pretty soon.

OK Don wrote:


Images of what, exactly? Between the lot of us, we might have quite a
collection, collectively speaking.
Have any spare disk space Kaleb?

On 11/30/05, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Once upon a time I had a nice collection of images (from Mickey's
site?).  But I had them at work because the internet connection there
was infinitely better than the 20 kbits we then had at home.  Sadly,
I _left_ them at work, because there was no CD burner easily accessible
to me then/there.  So, all that was abandoned there when I
so-unfortunately
found myself out of work.  Anyway, I'm looking at recreating my
collection,
which ought to be dirt-simple to do now that I've got 1+Mbps at home,
and
a nice CD burner on this Mac.

Any suggestions?

-- Jim



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'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
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[MBZ] 1991 350 SDL

[Jim Keefe]

160k miles, good condition, worth $5600?

[MBZ] One more car fax req

[Nick Wellinghoff]

One more request please. :)

JNKCV51E05M217875

Thanks a bunch,

Nick

82 300 SD (Tranny GONE)

Re: [MBZ] Images

[OK Don]

Or this one  --- small, but pretty.

On 11/30/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK. My collection is more along the lines of this one.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?

[Curt Raymond]

Well after I pulled off the autumn get together so well ;)
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:56:24 -0500
From: "John Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
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Congrats, Curt.  Ready for a Winter reunion of NE diesel buffs?

John Peterson
Kingston RI 91 300D 2.5 74k



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what marks this one as a euro?  headlights?  The unintelligible German
on the electronic thingy?

On 11/30/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> cool  euro model
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2005, at 07:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/
> > eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D4593301032
> > --
> > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> > Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> >
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>
> 1972 220D - Gump
> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
>
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Re: [MBZ] Images

[OK Don]

OK. My collection is more along the lines of this one.


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'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
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Re: [MBZ] Images

[Jim Cathey]

Images of what, exactly? Between the lot of us, we might have quite a


ISO images.  Say no more Squire, nudge nudge wink wink.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Images

[OK Don]

Images of what, exactly? Between the lot of us, we might have quite a
collection, collectively speaking.
Have any spare disk space Kaleb?

On 11/30/05, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Once upon a time I had a nice collection of images (from Mickey's
> site?).  But I had them at work because the internet connection there
> was infinitely better than the 20 kbits we then had at home.  Sadly,
> I _left_ them at work, because there was no CD burner easily accessible
> to me then/there.  So, all that was abandoned there when I
> so-unfortunately
> found myself out of work.  Anyway, I'm looking at recreating my
> collection,
> which ought to be dirt-simple to do now that I've got 1+Mbps at home,
> and
> a nice CD burner on this Mac.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> -- Jim

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Norman, OK
'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...

[OK Don]

You could take the "scenic" route to work - at least to get some cabin
heat -- --



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Norman, OK
'90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

[MBZ] VW P/U

[frederick w moir]

Hi, All.
	I've had 2 81 VW's, Rabbit and Dasher wagon, The only fuel related problem 
that I had with either of them was that the hose from the tank to the fuel 
line, in the rear of the car , was "braided hose" and when checked 
(finally!) was found to be wet. (sound familiar?). Replacing the hose let 
me park the car and an hour later restart, just as it's supposed to, and 
not have the fuel run back to the tank due to air creeping in through the 
failing hose. This was especially troublesome when parked facing uphill. 
Check all of the fuel hoses, would be my first job before forking over the 
cash.

YMMV
Fred Moir
Lynn MA.
84 190D 2.2 Runs well, makes odd noises (cracked piston?)
85 300TD 3.0 Excellent!
87 190DT 2.5 Blown head gasket (sigh)

Re: [MBZ] list?

[OK Don]

Same here --

On 11/30/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was for me briefly. I had nothing for a few hours, then a flood all at
> once this morning.
>
> Tim
> 1982 300TD Moby
>
> On 11/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > uhh, no
> >
> > Luther Gulseth wrote:
> >
> > > down??  yet again??
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The FSM created the Diesel Benz
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