Re: [MBZ] Street Style on Nitrogen

2005-12-16 Thread Rich Thomas
I was just going to paint the body kit and tail light surrounds yellow, 
leave the rest the punkin orange color (except for the wing, I like the 
plywood's grain).  I think that would look best, and scare any 
challengers with the menacing custom look.


On a related aspect, I noticed a new look on two mexiricers today -- an 
exhaust tip that is smaller diameter, but more like a bullet shape.  
Same farty muffler sound though.  I am wondering if this is the cutting 
edge of street style, and if I could just put my old 2 chrome extension 
on Brunnhilde.


--R

Levi Smith wrote:


Ohh yeah, that's good for 10-20HP right there.  Just make sure you paint
your car yellow and put stickers on it (each one is good for another 2HP)
Then get a 9 exhaust tip.  At that point you'll have at least doubled your
power!

Levi (:

On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


I don't have a turbo, so I figured this device would be the next best
thing, after I put on the R sticker.

--R

Levi Smith wrote:

   


Oh, I've already got one of those tornado generators on my Benz, it helps
power a lot.  It's called a turbo.  (:

Levi

On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 


If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no
difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being
that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna
get you much.

But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve
fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know.

--R
   

   


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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen

2005-12-16 Thread l02turner
Kevin wrote:I wasn't sure whether to point out that nitrogen molecules are 
smaller than

oxygen molecules, or to point out that the atmosphere is mostly nitrogen,
not oxygen..

It's probably just as well you didn't mention it - you probably would've 
been met with a Huh?? and a quizzical look, or maybe a slight tilt of the 
head followed by a head scratch.  Not many chemist/physics experts 
installing tires. ;-p


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On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:40:11PM -0700, Tom Reynolds wrote:
Yes, chemical reaction with compressed air and aluminum wheels, not so 
with

inert nitrogen gas.
Less tire filling.  Yea!


Race cars use it. When I got new tires for the 78 300D, they offered it,
claiming that the nitrogen molecules were bigger than oxygen molecules,
so it would leak less.

I wasn't sure whether to point out that nitrogen molecules are smaller 
than

oxygen molecules, or to point out that the atmosphere is mostly nitrogen,
not oxygen.

Could you imagine a blowout on a steel belted tire filled with pure 
oxygen?


K

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Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires.  Maybe the car
will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as
Experimental or something with the FAA.  Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT,
NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in?  Wow, I
gotta get on the road again.
Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:

If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no 
difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being 
that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna 
get you much.

But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve 
fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know.

--R

  



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Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Scordato

Amen Tom H.  Regards Tom Scordato
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Tom S.,

A big part of your issue was Monroe verses Bilstien.

I put Monroe shocks on one of my Mercedes once and will never do it again.
They were dead in 12,000 miles. I don't know for sure but I believe that 
the
Mercedes just wore out the hydraulic fluid inside the shocks. They still 
had
their gas charge and the car still passed the bounce test when I pulled 
them

off.

Just go ahead and purchase your Bilstien shocks from Rusty. Both Rusty and
you Mercedes will appreciate you for the new shocks.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers


Hans said

What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come
up

and stay there. If it bounces up and down  - needs new shocks.


Not always the case.  I did this test on my 1977 300D.  Passed with flying
colors, when I did the push test.   But still drove like trash.  Had old
monroe shocks on it.  Changed to Bilestiens.  Best thing I ever did.

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D
1979 240D
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers



What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come
up
and stay there. If it bounces up and down  - needs new shocks.

Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
Thanks Larry!  (Might as well talk here, not much happenin' on the F
list...) I think we were almost to the point of a group buy on those
puppies...
Tom (ducking and spinning)
Sand Springs, OK

At 05:19 PM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote:

Levi wrote:There's also cheap valve stem caps that change color when you 
start getting
low on air that would be a good bet to save the effort as well.

I bought a set of the valve stem caps and initially liked them so well I 
bought 2 more sets.  One morning I found a flat tire, ran out with the air 
hose and refilled it to see if I could get to Costso for a free fix - it 
held air but when I put the valve cap back on the air started flooding out!

O, I figure I got a bad one - then a week later one of the tires on my van 
(with wheelchair lift for my mom) was flat one morning - check it and, yep, 
*another* bad valve stem cap!

The scary thing is the air didn't just seep out of the new fangled valve 
stem cap - it flooded out so the tire was flat again in less than a minute! 
If we'd been driving at 65 with the van full of people on a hot summer day 
when the valve stem cap decided to play dead the situation could have been 
serious.

I removed all the tire pressure monitoring valve caps then and kept them 
off.  I tried to find someone to report them to but they're made by several 
different companies in several different countries - mostly China.  I sent a 
note to the NHTSA but never got a reply except to say they rec'd my note and 
would get back to me.  I'm not holding my breath.  ;-)

If you're using these little gems be *very* careful - I refuse to ride in 
vehicles with them but then I rarely need to ride in someone else's car.

Sincerely,
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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)


 Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something.

 Unless I've got a slow leak my tires hold their pressure other than a 
 couple
 lbs difference summer to winter.  In other words, I set the tire pressure 
 in
 the summer ones when I put them on at around 60-70 degrees and that's good
 until about winter when I put the winter tires on at around 20-30 degrees.
 And that's fine until spring.

 At least here in upstate NY where the temps average around there.  I'm
 certainly not going to run out and change my tire pressure pressure when 
 it
 gets down to 5 degrees at night, then reduce them again for the ride home
 when it's 20 or 30 degrees...
 Of course I lived for a couple years in WAY upstate NY where the temps are
 similar except the winter ones can hit 20 below frequently and 40 below a
 couple times.  At that point I was NOT going to go out and change the
 pressures again...

 But suffice to say the tires don't leak normally.  I.e. if I fill them to
 32lbs in the spring, come fall that's where they're at at the same temp. 
 By
 the NEXT spring, they might be down a couple lbs, but not much.

 If you're checking them every week or so and the pressures are actually
 changing much I think you've got leaks...

 There's also cheap valve stem caps that change color when you start 
 getting
 low on air that would be a good bet to save the effort as well.

 Heck, I'm not against using nitrogen, but it's an extra cost, and even if
 it's not supposed to leak as much as regular air, how am I going to KNOW
 that other than checking it at which point I'm letting some out that will
 need to be replaced...



 On 12/15/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doc,
Agrgavation?  To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark
 parking lot, (whoops, I forgot windy) trying to find the valve, pushing
 down my glasses so I can see, checking the pressure, picking UP my
 glasses, then finding the darned air pump either costs money or is 
 somehow
 defective to my physical limitations (I'm somewhat of a klutz) so that
 when
 I try to use it I LOSE air, or the pump is actually turned off.  In which
 case I opt for plan B, which is usually go home, park the car as close to
 the garage as possible, get the little portable cigarette lighter plug in
 generator, and then fill my tires, and 8 other ones, because my wife and
 daughter tell me to fill theirs as well.  Aggravation?  Heck, I'll pay a
 buck and a half per tire for nitrogen and a sexy green valve cover cap.
 smile
 Tom
 Sand Springs, OK
 At 11:54 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Tom Reynolds wrote:
  Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen
 fillups.
  Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a
 lot
  less likely to be affected by 

Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?

2005-12-16 Thread David Brodbeck

Tom Reynolds wrote:

Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires.  Maybe the car
will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as
Experimental or something with the FAA.


When the U-2 spy plane was under development, there was a huge push to 
reduce weight.  Every few pounds less weight meant a higher maximum 
altitude.  There was a reward for any engineer who could think of a way 
to save weight.  One guy suggested filling the landing gear tires with 
helium.  The story goes that they actually tried it, but found the small 
helium molecules leaked out too quickly through the rubber.





Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Scordato

I would only demand pharmaceutical grade nitrogen.  No oils in it!!
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)



Remember, these people are selling a product, but that is their argiment:
http://www.whynitrofill.com/faq.htm


On 12/15/05, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something.

Unless I've got a slow leak my tires hold their pressure other than a
couple
lbs difference summer to winter.  In other words, I set the tire pressure
in
the summer ones when I put them on at around 60-70 degrees and that's 
good
until about winter when I put the winter tires on at around 20-30 
degrees.

And that's fine until spring.

At least here in upstate NY where the temps average around there.  I'm
certainly not going to run out and change my tire pressure pressure when
it
gets down to 5 degrees at night, then reduce them again for the ride home
when it's 20 or 30 degrees...
Of course I lived for a couple years in WAY upstate NY where the temps 
are

similar except the winter ones can hit 20 below frequently and 40 below a
couple times.  At that point I was NOT going to go out and change the
pressures again...

But suffice to say the tires don't leak normally.  I.e. if I fill them to
32lbs in the spring, come fall that's where they're at at the same
temp.  By
the NEXT spring, they might be down a couple lbs, but not much.

If you're checking them every week or so and the pressures are actually
changing much I think you've got leaks...

There's also cheap valve stem caps that change color when you start
getting
low on air that would be a good bet to save the effort as well.

Heck, I'm not against using nitrogen, but it's an extra cost, and even if
it's not supposed to leak as much as regular air, how am I going to KNOW
that other than checking it at which point I'm letting some out that will
need to be replaced...



On 12/15/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doc,
Agrgavation?  To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark
 parking lot, (whoops, I forgot windy) trying to find the valve, pushing
 down my glasses so I can see, checking the pressure, picking UP my
 glasses, then finding the darned air pump either costs money or is
somehow
 defective to my physical limitations (I'm somewhat of a klutz) so that
 when
 I try to use it I LOSE air, or the pump is actually turned off.  In
which
 case I opt for plan B, which is usually go home, park the car as close
to
 the garage as possible, get the little portable cigarette lighter plug
in
 generator, and then fill my tires, and 8 other ones, because my wife 
 and
 daughter tell me to fill theirs as well.  Aggravation?  Heck, I'll pay 
 a

 buck and a half per tire for nitrogen and a sexy green valve cover cap.
 smile
 Tom
 Sand Springs, OK
 At 11:54 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Tom Reynolds wrote:
  Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen
 fillups.
  Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's
a
 lot
  less likely to be affected by temperature changes.  Anyone know of
any
  place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen?
 
 The air surrounding us is 80% nitrogen! The removal of the 20% that
 consists MOSTLY of oxygen and carbon dioxide doesn't substantially
 change the way the gas reacts to temperature. There are some
theoretical
 advantages to using nitrogen compared to using air, but the reward
 doesn't begin to warrant the cost (the reward is extremely small and
the
 cost in money and aggravation is relatively MUCH larger IN MY 
 OPINION).

 
 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] biodiesel story

2005-12-16 Thread L . Mark Finch
Are you sure you're not thinking of Grit? It still exists, too: 
http://grit.com/ .


On Dec 15, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

Grist?! Holy crap I haven't seen anything from them since I was a 
kidI

thought it went the way of green stamps.






Re: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Where does that crackhead get those NADA figures?  Out of his ass?

Dave M. wrote:


The car looks nice, but wow, he's posting NADA book values in pesos!
What's up with that? Kaleb might offer an extra ten-spot over his
usual $500 for this one.

=)

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Subject: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo

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Re: [MBZ] bumper on 300CD

2005-12-16 Thread eric peterson
Bid early bid often bid high!!

--- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sounds like we need some bidders...
 
 On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:29:35 -0600, eric peterson  
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  I'll just pick one up locally Kaleb.  But thanks
  anyway.  Still fighting with the insurance company
 but
  at least I have the best case for a comparable
 that
  you could get there is a twin to my car on
 ebay
  right now.  Same yr, model, color even same
 mileage.
  already at basically what the insurance company
 has
  offered.  Got the papers today for filing suit
 against
  them for the property damage.  And my lawyer will
  handle the medical settlement. I'll just be glad
 when
  it's over and I have either my car fixed or enough
 $$
  to pay for it's replacement.
 
  Eric
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Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey

Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires.


Talk about a leakdown special!  But maybe screeching around corners
would get all high and squeaky?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
yea

On 12/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where does that crackhead get those NADA figures?  Out of his ass?

 Dave M. wrote:

  The car looks nice, but wow, he's posting NADA book values in pesos!
  What's up with that? Kaleb might offer an extra ten-spot over his
  usual $500 for this one.
 
  =)
 
  +dm™
 
 
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 Subject: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?

2005-12-16 Thread Rich Thomas
Now that would cause problems -- helium atoms are very very tiny, and 
leak out of anything not metal, fairly quickly (think helium balloon vs 
one with air).  I think they would migrate through the rubber pretty 
quickly.


--R

Tom Reynolds wrote:


Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires.  Maybe the car
will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as
Experimental or something with the FAA.  Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT,
NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in?  Wow, I
gotta get on the road again.
Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
 

If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no 
difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being 
that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna 
get you much.


But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve 
fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know.


--R

   




 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Is this the six banger hercules that you did that museum derusting 
trick

on?


Yeah.  I can't emphasize enough how well that derusting technique
works, and it's cheap-cheap-cheap.  But you do have to have a way
to submerge the rusty surface.  I've got some rust spots on the
hood of the 190D that I'm going to try building clay dams for so
that I can puddle the juice over them.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] QoD

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Speaking of not perfect, the 1985 300CD trunk lid won't close 
properly.  I
have to set the lid down and then press HARD to get it to close.  
Otherwise,

it just bounces back up when I slam it down the usual way.  Is there
anything to lube to get it to be more obedient?


You could try squirting the latch with a little oil, but it could well
be that the latch is just misadjusted.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
Well, we don't want to try hydrogen, do we?  
grin
Tom

At 06:30 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Now that would cause problems -- helium atoms are very very tiny, and 
leak out of anything not metal, fairly quickly (think helium balloon vs 
one with air).  I think they would migrate through the rubber pretty 
quickly.

--R

Tom Reynolds wrote:

Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires.  Maybe the car
will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as
Experimental or something with the FAA.  Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT,
NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in?  Wow, I
gotta get on the road again.
Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
  

If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no 
difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being 
that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna 
get you much.

But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve 
fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know.

--R



 

  

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Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Also, if you use the Mobil One synthetic oil combined with the Mobil One 
synthetic fuses, then YOUR pistons will NOT melt.


andrew strasfogel wrote:


Never use ordinary air and fluids when Mobil One Synthetic Air and Mobile
TwoPointFive Intermittent Synthetic Blinker Fluid are available.  Both are
made from 100 percent ersatz buckeyball molecules.  The price is $15.00/cu.
ft. for the air and $7.00 fl. oz. for the 15W 15 fluid at Walmart (of
course).  You will note an immediate difference in handling, torque, and
displacement.  Also, your tires and blinkers will last over 300 K miles
longer than with natural materials.  Marshall swears by both of these Mobil
Corp. products.

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[MBZ] Bid on this 300CD

2005-12-16 Thread eric peterson
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4597599682


Bid early bid often bid high!!
 
 --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  sounds like we need some bidders...
  
  On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:29:35 -0600, eric peterson 
 
  Still fighting with the insurance company but
   at least I have the best case for a comparable
  that you could get there is a twin to my car
on
  ebay right now.  Same yr, model, color even same
  mileage. already at basically what the insurance
company
  has offered.  Got the papers today for filing suit
  against them for the property damage.  And my
lawyer
 will handle the medical settlement. I'll just be
glad
  when it's over and I have either my car fixed or
 enough $$ to pay for it's replacement.
  
   Eric
   Crunched 85 300CD 87K
  


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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Way too far for me to mess with.  The not shifting till redline is 
because there is  no vacuum to the tranny, easy fix.  Assuming it will 
still start, would be an easy car to get going.  Go for it LT don.


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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
I might. Brother-in-law has a really cool Cheby pickup and a race trailer --
which really really has hauled a race car.

Uh, what is the easy fix here?

On 12/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Way too far for me to mess with.  The not shifting till redline is
 because there is  no vacuum to the tranny, easy fix.  Assuming it will
 still start, would be an easy car to get going.  Go for it LT don.

 Rick Knoble wrote:

  Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?

2005-12-16 Thread Hans Neureiter
Why not? As long as no Oxy can get to it.
Never mind, I'm forgetting, ail leaks through tires.
How about Argon. That stuff is expensive. It better be the better jet.


On 12/15/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, we don't want to try hydrogen, do we?
 grin
 Tom

 At 06:30 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
 
 Now that would cause problems -- helium atoms are very very tiny, and
 leak out of anything not metal, fairly quickly (think helium balloon vs
 one with air).  I think they would migrate through the rubber pretty
 quickly.
 
 --R
 
 Tom Reynolds wrote:
 
 Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires.  Maybe the
 car
 will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as
 Experimental or something with the FAA.  Hey, turf war between EPA,
 DOT,
 NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in?  Wow, I
 gotta get on the road again.
 Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds
 Sand Springs, OK
 
 At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
 
 
 If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no
 difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen,
 being
 that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna
 get you much.
 
 But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to
 improve
 fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
First check to make sure the vacuum line to the trans is not off, if 
not, just find out where its leaking.


LT Don wrote:


I might. Brother-in-law has a really cool Cheby pickup and a race trailer --
which really really has hauled a race car.

Uh, what is the easy fix here?

On 12/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Way too far for me to mess with.  The not shifting till redline is
because there is  no vacuum to the tranny, easy fix.  Assuming it will
still start, would be an easy car to get going.  Go for it LT don.

Rick Knoble wrote:



Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don



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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Hans Neureiter
And what saves my tires - Nitro filled, of course - from being attackes on
the outside.
C'mon, is there any sense left in this crazy world?
Think of something stupid most normal people don't understand and tell 'em
it's the latest hi-tech stuff, and they will come and buy it, no matter what
the cost.

Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

On 12/15/05, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...because
 air is evil and destroying your tires (or as they put it: Oxygen, on the
 other hand, is immensely destructive to rubber and  This same process
 occurs in tires inflated with air as the oxygen attacks the rubber
 molecules,


Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Levi Smith
Heck, I've seen and used plenty of tires that didn't have any caps at all.
And if the Shrader fails, those caps don't hol air (at least none of the
ones I've had on leaky valves).  It might slow it down a  bit, but the
Schrader is the one and only real valve as far as I'm concerned

Levi (:

On 12/15/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From memory, the Schrader valve is not the primary seal.
  The screw on cap is the primary seal.

 Seems to me that is backwards.  Some of those caps are nasty cheap
 squishy plastic things.  (Assuming that 'primary' means first-in-line.
 The Schrader certainly is as to facing pressure.)

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Levi Smith wrote:
 
 Heck, I've seen and used plenty of tires that didn't have any caps at all.
 And if the Shrader fails, those caps don't hol air (at least none of the
 ones I've had on leaky valves).  It might slow it down a  bit, but the
 Schrader is the one and only real valve as far as I'm concerned

I used to work for a guy who raced production and showroom stock motorcycles. 
Tech inspection required metal valve caps with gaskets inside. Unless you've
got caps like that, The Schrader valve is the only thing holding the air in.
(on the motorcycles, the valve is precisely radial to the axle, and the valves
can open from centripetal force at 150mph, so the caps are needed)



[MBZ] a stripper

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-SE-V8-4-Door-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4597989820QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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[MBZ] this guy is on CRACK

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-Mercedes-Benz-560-SEL-V8-LEATHER-147K-CLEAN-TITLE_W0QQitemZ8022912216QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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[MBZ] oh boy, turbo 240

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

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[MBZ] needs front sway bar fixed

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Sunil wrote:

 If there's a Tire Discounters where you are, they exclusively use nitrogen
 to fill all the tires they sell.
 
 I think it's a gimmick, though - you're not driving fast enough to really
 take advantage of the properties of nitrogen filling.

With the atmosphere (air) being more than 75% nitrogen, what's the
advanage of loosing the oxygen, carbon dioxide, etc.? 

Is it just moisture? I don't think nitrogen is categorically
moisture free.

 Philip, with a nitrogen mix in all his tires



Re: [MBZ] this guy is on CRACK

2005-12-16 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick

Gee...I wonder why that guys feedback is private :-)

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] needs front sway bar fixed

2005-12-16 Thread Zeitgeist
The first 126 I've seen with a V8 diesel.  Bet it's an AMG V8 diesel too...

On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant

2005-12-16 Thread Brian Smyla
Yes, you're correct.  I fully expected there to be a few problems he wasn't
aware of, but surely didn't expect a cracked head!  Caveat emptor.  At least
I have a diesel to drive now!  Anyone got some old style seat heater
switches I can buy, the ones that came with the car are toast? 

-brian


-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:31 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant

Was it using coolant right away?  If so he probably knew.  If not and it 
took a while before it started using it, then he might not have known or 
it wasnt cracked at the time you bought it.  No telling.  But, with any 
used car, its as is of course.

Brian Smyla wrote:

 Well, my feelings are that he knew, but I'm not here to throw stones at
him.
 Just needed to vent.
 
 -brian
 
 

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  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread Loren Faeth

HEY!  you blew my stealth!  I wanted to snag that one before Kaleb  got it!

At 04:28 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote:

Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Hargrave
Bottled nitroger is nothing but nitrogen. By default, this makes nitrogen
moisture free.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End
Specials)


rumor has it that Sunil wrote:

 If there's a Tire Discounters where you are, they exclusively use nitrogen
 to fill all the tires they sell.

 I think it's a gimmick, though - you're not driving fast enough to really
 take advantage of the properties of nitrogen filling.

With the atmosphere (air) being more than 75% nitrogen, what's the
advanage of loosing the oxygen, carbon dioxide, etc.?

Is it just moisture? I don't think nitrogen is categorically
moisture free.

 Philip, with a nitrogen mix in all his tires

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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread OK Don
And it's not categorically oil free either. We used medical grade
nitrogen as an oxidation prevention and pressure delivery for the
chemicals in the film processor I used to manage (Wing Lynch, if
anyone cares).

  Don - who still has fixer in his blood --

 With the atmosphere (air) being more than 75% nitrogen, what's the
 advanage of loosing the oxygen, carbon dioxide, etc.?

 Is it just moisture? I don't think nitrogen is categorically
 moisture free.

  Philip, with a nitrogen mix in all his tires

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
Mine.

On 12/16/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HEY!  you blew my stealth!  I wanted to snag that one before Kaleb  got
 it!

 At 04:28 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote:
 Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-240D_W0QQitemZ4596821298QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
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Re: [MBZ] needs front sway bar fixed

2005-12-16 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Casey,

You got it wrong... These folks that try and sell this stuff are  
in a persistent vegetative state  No brain cells are operative.


Perhaps you are in a continuous regenerative state...  Not  
speaking about WA, but about you.


Take care and Merry Christmas.

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

PS.  To the PC correct folks..  Happy Holidays...  May we  
all be safe and take care of one another!


On Dec 15, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

The first 126 I've seen with a V8 diesel.  Bet it's an AMG V8  
diesel too...







Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread OK Don
Like everything else, there are various degrees of purity -- 100% pure
is not guaranteed unless you pay for it.

On 12/15/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bottled nitroger is nothing but nitrogen. By default, this makes nitrogen
 moisture free.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 256-656-1924
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

you will have to fight LT don for it.

Loren Faeth wrote:


HEY!  you blew my stealth!  I wanted to snag that one before Kaleb  got it!

At 04:28 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote:


Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
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Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

your car has heated seats?  That is rare.

Brian Smyla wrote:


Yes, you're correct.  I fully expected there to be a few problems he wasn't
aware of, but surely didn't expect a cracked head!  Caveat emptor.  At least
I have a diesel to drive now!  Anyone got some old style seat heater
switches I can buy, the ones that came with the car are toast? 


-brian


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant

Was it using coolant right away?  If so he probably knew.  If not and it 
took a while before it started using it, then he might not have known or 
it wasnt cracked at the time you bought it.  No telling.  But, with any 
used car, its as is of course.


Brian Smyla wrote:



Well, my feelings are that he knew, but I'm not here to throw stones at


him.


Just needed to vent.

-brian







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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
Actually, I just emailed the guy and suggested that he cancel the auction
and put it back on the road himself.

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 you will have to fight LT don for it.

 Loren Faeth wrote:

  HEY!  you blew my stealth!  I wanted to snag that one before Kaleb  got
 it!
 
  At 04:28 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote:
 
 Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-240D_W0QQitemZ4596821298QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 No affiliation, ect.
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Re: [MBZ] needs front sway bar fixed

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-1986-MERCEDES- 
BENZ-420-SEL_W0QQitemZ4597883506QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Hard to believe somebody could mistake a gasser for a diesel.
Sway bar on a 126 is a fugly job, unless you can make some kind
of patch work.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey

filled the tires with 200psi nitrogen


It is my opinion that they used Nitrogen because that was the
easiest way to get 200 psi _anything_ that would be OK in a tire.
Most air compressors don't go up that high, but with 2-3kpsi in
a Nitrogen bottle it would be easy.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
But if he insists on selling it, I already have the pickup and race trailer
reserved for the pickup. It is 3 or 4 hours east of me.

On 12/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you will have to fight LT don for it.

 Loren Faeth wrote:

  HEY!  you blew my stealth!  I wanted to snag that one before Kaleb  got
 it!
 
  At 04:28 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote:
 
 Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-240D_W0QQitemZ4596821298QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 No affiliation, ect.
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Re: [MBZ] oh boy, turbo 240

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-240D-123-Mercedes-Benz- 
1982-240D-123-trbo-charged-4-speed- 
auto_W0QQitemZ4597891736QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I particularly like the use of a dollar bill to show the scale
of the rust patches.  Tremendously symbolic, though Ben's picture
would have been more appropriate than George's!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] this guy is on CRACK

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-Mercedes-Benz-560-SEL-V8-LEATHER- 
147K-CLEAN- TITLE_W0QQitemZ8022912216QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I don't know, that really looked like a clean interior.  For the
right guy, who knows...

That would surely dress up our SDL, for example.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] this guy is on CRACK

2005-12-16 Thread OK Don
It even has cup holders on the doors!


 I don't know, that really looked like a clean interior.  For the
 right guy, who knows...

 That would surely dress up our SDL, for example.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] a stripper

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1981-Mercedes- 
Benz-300-SE-V8-4-Door-No- 
Reserve_W0QQitemZ4597989820QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Ah, that famous inline 6 V8.  Lot of those on eBay!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

2005-12-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:15:53 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The motor never did turn over, but according to the Fluke I only was
 getting 100A or so at the peak of current draw.

   

 It draws more than 350A initial starting current, this drops off
 pretty good once it's spinning.

So what kind of Fluke meter do you have that reads 350 A? Or do you have
an ordinary Fluke with a switchboard shunt?


Craig



[MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Keefe
I'm moving, and I really can't drag this car with me.  Make me an offer.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]






[MBZ] OT: Bike racing (was: Filling tires with nitrogen)

2005-12-16 Thread Dave M.
I've been waiting for someone to mention bike racing. Here's a little
taste of Moto GP for the uninitiated:

http://media.putfile.com/MotogpLifessweetdrug

Suddenly NASCAR  looks like a bunch of hicks chasing their tails in a
high-speed rush hour traffic jam, no?

dons flame suit


=)

+dm™

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 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:46:31 -0700
 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End
Specials)


 I don't think as fast, though.  Ah well, it was just a conversation
 starter.  Anyone wanna talk about F1 or bike racing?
 grin
 Tom
 Sand Springs, OK


Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:26:40 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Bottled nitroger is nothing but nitrogen. By default, this makes
 nitrogen moisture free.

The bottled nitrogen typically has a dew point of -98 deg.C (-144.4
deg.F). It's pretty dry.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

2005-12-16 Thread Loren Faeth

condition, location?

At 09:50 PM 12/15/2005, you wrote:

I'm moving, and I really can't drag this car with me.  Make me an offer.
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[MBZ] 240D prices

2005-12-16 Thread Loren Faeth
somebody just paid $2100 for a 76 240D on ebay!  4597219965
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Re: [MBZ] 240D prices

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
I traded a 1979 Acura Integra for my Benz.

But then again, I was an idiot.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
Where. When. How much.

Oh God, I am an addict.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bike racing (was: Filling tires with nitrogen)

2005-12-16 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 08:53:45PM -0700, Dave M. wrote:
 Suddenly NASCAR  looks like a bunch of hicks chasing their tails in a
 high-speed rush hour traffic jam, no?


Suddenly? 

K



Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen

2005-12-16 Thread Dave M.
And in a former life, I used to amateur race production sportbikes (a
1997 GSX-R750, to be exact). Metal caps with gaskets were indeed
required and part of the tech inspection. I didn't often near 150mph
as the tracks I raced on didn't have long enough straights...
Thunderhill was the fastest, probably mid-140's every lap. Sears Point
(now Infineon) was a bit slower, but a lot hairier, and almost more
fun in a sadistic sort of way (those of you who have turned a wheel in
angst there know what I mean.)

I've found cracked plastic caps on some of my vehicles in the past. I
try to use only metal caps with gaskets on all my cars (and bike). Be
careful, some are better than others - some metal caps have no
gaskets, or poor gaskets. Plastic caps are useless except to keep dirt
out of the Schrader.

=)

+dm

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 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:32:47 -0500
 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen


 I used to work for a guy who raced production and showroom stock motorcycles.
 Tech inspection required metal valve caps with gaskets inside. Unless you've
 got caps like that, The Schrader valve is the only thing holding the air in.
 (on the motorcycles, the valve is precisely radial to the axle, and the valves
 can open from centripetal force at 150mph, so the caps are needed)




Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Mitch wrote:

 ... the valve is precisely radial to the axle, and the valves
 can open from centripetal force at 150mph, so the caps are needed)

Ya probably mean centrifugal force. Centripetal force is the pull
toward the center that counteracts inertia to keep the wheel.

In other words, if the centripetal force failed, centrifugal would
cause wheel bits to fly all over.

But beyond the physics nit picking, I sure wouldn't want the tire
valves to open at 150mph (240 km/h) for _any_ reason!!

 Philip, who has argued there is no such thing as 
centrifugal force.




Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
So what kind of Fluke meter do you have that reads 350 A? Or do you 
have

an ordinary Fluke with a switchboard shunt?


Standard Fluke 83 with a clamp-on 400A AC/DC current probe.

-- Jim




[MBZ] need a 240D in Seattle?

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
I got this and wonder if anybody local enough wants to try his luck on 
a possible cheap car



 Hi Biofuel Folks,

Saw this diesel car coming up for auction on Saturday. If you're not
prepared with a mechanic and money to buy/fix it I would not even go:

Lincoln Towing 12/17/05 Auction in N. Seattle 9am

MERCEDES 1981 240D WA323A233236069?? (bad vin)

more info-
http://www.roadoneseattle.com


Notes Based on my Experience:
the owner may pay the fines and take the car back before auction
dress warm, take cash
go early and really look it over, it won't be running but check oil, 
body,

etc
car should sell for under wholesale [$800 ?]
have a plan to get the car out of the yard quick (start it and drive or
arrange a tow)
you might have to have a key made but there is a guy in a van who does 
it

if you're the high bidder it's yours and you have to pay and take it
within the rules
auction will charge fees and wa registration tax
krispy kreme is nearby :)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

2005-12-16 Thread OK Don
Is it something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/FLUKE-AC-DC-CURRENT-PROBE-80I-410_W0QQitemZ5840943202QQcategoryZ4671QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or
http://tinyurl.com/aequt

Would one of these be better or worse?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7571967249rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1
or
http://tinyurl.com/d6wus



 Standard Fluke 83 with a clamp-on 400A AC/DC current probe.

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] oh boy, turbo 240

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
Rusting economy?  I think the new George would have been perfect.

On 12/16/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-240D-123-Mercedes-Benz-
  1982-240D-123-trbo-charged-4-speed-
  auto_W0QQitemZ4597891736QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 I particularly like the use of a dollar bill to show the scale
 of the rust patches.  Tremendously symbolic, though Ben's picture
 would have been more appropriate than George's!

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey

Plastic caps are useless except to keep dirt
out of the Schrader.


A worthy function, and worth the price of admission!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey



Is it something like this?  http://tinyurl.com/aequt


Not really, mine's an i410, and is bright yellow.  Might
be a successor to that one however.  I bought it rather
than an all-in-one because I already had the 83.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7572962311

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] ArcticQ - WVO burning

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
That is the theory.  We have cars that may not survive extended abuse 
and metal fatigue could take them out.  These are twenty year old cars 
at best and bound to have issues as yet unknown that we are gambling 
will not fail.  I would rather have access to a part I want than be 900 
miles away from the nearest parts shop or tire store.


Back ups to the back up better chances of success.

On Thursday, December 15, 2005, at 06:46 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:

A support vehicle would be helpful and if you want  to pull it 
together, go for it...but  I think it's overkill. For  example,. found 
the website of a lady who drove 21,000 around the US  and to Deahorse 
in a Kia Sephia...found another one of a guy who went  to Deadhorse in 
what looked like a Geo Metro - he arrived 12/13 -drove  the Dalton the 
whole way in the dark - only reflectors kept him on the  road.


  So if these people can do it, like that, it seems a bus/support 
vehicle is overkill.


  Now, watch my SD break a spring and be the only one that needs the 
services of a support vehicle!


  Chris

redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I was thinking something more 
along the lines of a city bus

reconfigured for arctic duty hauling, not holiday play.  No motorhome
plush, more of the space dedicated to storage and processing for
breakdowns and fuel/water support.  Have a welder/torch set up for
roadside repairs.  Maybe a defibrillator for those of us older than our
cars and in worse shape.  Base station for the radios and ability to
drag cars out of melting permafrost



On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 07:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


redghost wrote:


That is where the support vehicle with onboard processing would be
handy.  Take the WVO and toss it into a settling/separating tank and 
a

few hours later be able to dispense workable fuel.  Take the real
waste
gunk and make bear cakes for feeding the scraps to grizzlies


The VeggieVan (Winnebago LeSharo) has a biodiesel processing trailer
that drags along behind it. If you can imagine a 240D motorhome towing
a trailer full of oil and equipment, you've got the general idea. I
believe the Renault 4 banger in the Winnie is about as strong as a
240D.

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Re: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo

2005-12-16 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Perhaps he is using figures for a SL?
Betcha when it comes time to wrangle with an insurance company you would not 
be able to find figures like that.
It is a tidy looking 123 though, very original. Might win the presidents 
award in the 123 club:-)


Hendrik
who bought some clear indicators (off ebay for only US$8.90 but shipping 
over here was US$60) to give the 230E as a Xmas pressy


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To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo


Where does that crackhead get those NADA figures?  Out of his ass?

Dave M. wrote:


The car looks nice, but wow, he's posting NADA book values in pesos!
What's up with that? Kaleb might offer an extra ten-spot over his
usual $500 for this one.

=)

+dm™



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Subject: [MBZ] Sweet Vegas Ride, Yo

Mercy

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N2BD3415C

Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
Try the paint ball guys.  they have tanks of the stuff that powers 
markers for the boys with too much cash and not enough sense


On Thursday, December 15, 2005, at 08:40 AM, Tom Reynolds wrote:

Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen 
fillups.
Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a 
lot

less likely to be affected by temperature changes.  Anyone know of any
place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen?
Best,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK
At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote:


My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any 
leaks
out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D 
I'll
actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than 
store

brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more.


 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700
From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Outsmart everyone.  Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps 
on

so
you know it's not air in there any more.  Actually, I think some
major
stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

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Re: [MBZ] I wouldnt put this crap on my car

2005-12-16 Thread Loren Faeth
D'oh  and another is the lowly 240D  See ebay  4596821298
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   for a picture.
Do you suppose they guys who designed the car could have built a better 
intake/filter than the mushroom riceburner junk?


At 08:52 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote:
  An example of a *stock* cold air intake is the
  air intake on a Volvo 240.  The airbox is connected to an intake pipe
  that runs around the radiator and opens just behind the grille.

Another such example is the air intake of a 300 SDL.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bike racing (was: Filling tires with nitrogen)

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
Er, I meant bike as in bicycle racing, not (motor) bike or motorcycle
racing, but hey, at least it's two wheels...(you guys are cwyzie!)
Tom

At 08:53 PM 12/15/2005 -0700, you wrote:
Content-Disposition: inline

I've been waiting for someone to mention bike racing. Here's a little
taste of Moto GP for the uninitiated:

http://media.putfile.com/MotogpLifessweetdrug

Suddenly NASCAR  looks like a bunch of hicks chasing their tails in a
high-speed rush hour traffic jam, no?

dons flame suit


=)

+dm™

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End
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 I don't think as fast, though.  Ah well, it was just a conversation
 starter.  Anyone wanna talk about F1 or bike racing?
 grin
 Tom
 Sand Springs, OK
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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
I find a nice mixture of (low fat) peanut butter and SPF 50 sunscreen works
wonders. You know, I wonder about the sunscreen...resists oxidation, maybe? 

Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 07:14 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
Content-Disposition: inline

And what saves my tires - Nitro filled, of course - from being attackes on
the outside.
C'mon, is there any sense left in this crazy world?
Think of something stupid most normal people don't understand and tell 'em
it's the latest hi-tech stuff, and they will come and buy it, no matter what
the cost.

Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

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 ...because
 air is evil and destroying your tires (or as they put it: Oxygen, on the
 other hand, is immensely destructive to rubber and  This same process
 occurs in tires inflated with air as the oxygen attacks the rubber
 molecules,
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Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen

2005-12-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Where do you get these metal caps with gaskets?  Motorcycle shop?  I
don't think I've ever seen anything but the plain old plastic cheapies
at McParts.

On 12/15/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And in a former life, I used to amateur race production sportbikes (a
 1997 GSX-R750, to be exact). Metal caps with gaskets were indeed
 required and part of the tech inspection. I didn't often near 150mph
 as the tracks I raced on didn't have long enough straights...
 Thunderhill was the fastest, probably mid-140's every lap. Sears Point
 (now Infineon) was a bit slower, but a lot hairier, and almost more
 fun in a sadistic sort of way (those of you who have turned a wheel in
 angst there know what I mean.)

 I've found cracked plastic caps on some of my vehicles in the past. I
 try to use only metal caps with gaskets on all my cars (and bike). Be
 careful, some are better than others - some metal caps have no
 gaskets, or poor gaskets. Plastic caps are useless except to keep dirt
 out of the Schrader.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo



[MBZ] Sold my Unimog

2005-12-16 Thread Bob DuPuy
Well it looks like my 84 DOKA has found a new home. Saturday, Thomas
from Chattanooga, TN is going to stop by with a certified Check. I
really hate to see her go. She has been a great Truck and other than
having to replacing the engine when I first got her a few years back,
she has never let me down. Thomas seems like a great guy and will no
doubt be a credit to the Mogging and MB diesel community. Although I
advised him to spare his ears and back by shipping the truck from
Parrish FL to TN he
will be driving. All of the fluids have been recently changed and I
will provide him with some spares. He says his drive is just about
straight up I 75. If there are any list members along the way to
provide possible sanctuary in the event of the unforeseen, it would be
great if you'd respond. My once mighty fleet of four mogs and six MB
diesel sedans has shrunken to one 88, 407 and two sedans. I'll spend
the next few months trying to figure out the best way to stuff a 5 cyl
OM617 in place of the 4 cyl OM616. If it weren't for the fact that
there is a frame cross member inches from the crank pulley and that
the front pivoting motor mount needs to be relocated it would be no
sweat.

Bob DuPuy
Parrish, FL



Re: [MBZ] needs front sway bar fixed

2005-12-16 Thread Dan Weeks
I just had a guy make a slick patch for mine. $466. Works great. 
Mechanic who did it owns a 320SEL himself, and put the same patch on 
his 7 mos ago. If someone wants to bid, I'll happily refer you to my 
(actually Loren's) mechanic. He's in Ames, Iowa. Right on the way 
west if someone left of here wants to buy it for a song. It's 
drivable (carefully!) and the repair takes just a couple hours.


Dan

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-1986-MERCEDES- 
BENZ-420-SEL_W0QQitemZ4597883506QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Hard to believe somebody could mistake a gasser for a diesel.
Sway bar on a 126 is a fugly job, unless you can make some kind
of patch work.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] 126 V8 diesel on ebay

2005-12-16 Thread Donald Snook
Jim Wrote:

 

Hard to believe somebody could mistake a gasser for a diesel.

Sway bar on a 126 is a fugly job, unless you can make some kind

of patch work.

 

 

This car looks like a decent project vehicle. BUT, if this car runs how
does anyone who knows anything cars confuse a gasoline engine with
diesel.  I know the distributor cap and spark plug wires should have
been a clue. I am more worried about the sound of this thing.  Maybe it
has a bad knock and that is why he thinks it's a diesel. 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

why would you do that?

LT Don wrote:


Actually, I just emailed the guy and suggested that he cancel the auction
and put it back on the road himself.



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Re: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

2005-12-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

where are you located?

Jim Keefe wrote:

I'm moving, and I really can't drag this car with me.  Make me an offer.  
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Re: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

2005-12-16 Thread Luther Gulseth
congratulations.  You have completed step 1 in route to recovery!

-Original Message-
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Sent: Dec 15, 2005 11:03 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

Where. When. How much.

Oh God, I am an addict.




Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi



Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
Because he is going to really hate himself when he sells it for $200.
Besides, he wrote back and said the car will be sold no matter what the
cost, etc.

On 12/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 why would you do that?

 LT Don wrote:

  Actually, I just emailed the guy and suggested that he cancel the
 auction
  and put it back on the road himself.
 

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Re: [MBZ] 126 V8 diesel on ebay

2005-12-16 Thread Loren Faeth
Just sounds like an ordinary car salesman to me.  Ever walk into a 
dealership and ask a technical question?  They are more clueless than blondes.



At 08:10 AM 12/16/2005, you wrote:

Jim Wrote:



Hard to believe somebody could mistake a gasser for a diesel.

Sway bar on a 126 is a fugly job, unless you can make some kind

of patch work.





This car looks like a decent project vehicle. BUT, if this car runs how
does anyone who knows anything cars confuse a gasoline engine with
diesel.  I know the distributor cap and spark plug wires should have
been a clue. I am more worried about the sound of this thing.  Maybe it
has a bad knock and that is why he thinks it's a diesel.



Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A.

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

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Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Tan Qu
The car handles pretty tight. It is just binding noise
that concerns me. I do have the new links - you were
talking about the rear sway bar links not the rear
camber struts, were you? 

Do the subframe mounts really need the special tool to
RR?

Tan

--- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:02:54PM -0800, Tan Qu
 wrote:
  Was that a big job? How long did it take you to do
 it?
  If lubing the calipers pin do not help, I may have
 to
  look to go in that way. 
 
 Unfortunately, I dropped that subframe enough that I
 could get it 
 dropped in under a half hour, and bolting it up took
 about the same.
 The subframe mounts are much easier if you have the
 tool. I'd probably
 try to inspect the subframe mounts and links before
 I made an order - 
 the links made a bigger difference in my car. Then
 again, in yours, you
 sounded like you were feeling the subframe shift.
 
 If you replace the links, you're going to need an
 alignment. The mounts 
 shouldn't require one.
 
 The first time I did the subframe, it took me about
 three hours for all
 four mounts, and I was taking my time. Replacing all
 the links and moving
 the new mounts from the old subframe to the new
 subframe took most of the
 day, but was easy with the subframe out of the
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
Better jump on it!  I can see it will zoom out of that field in a few  
hours, and you will be sad that it is not resting in your driveway,  
just waiting for Kaleb to ship you a transmission


On Thursday, December 15, 2005, at 02:47 PM, LT Don wrote:


That is REALLY tempting.

On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That thing has a trailer hitch on it, you guys wanting one could buy  
the

whole thing for less than the hitch is worth.  If you got the dogs out
of the in tact interior you could probably get it started and drive  
it

home.

--R

Rick Knoble wrote:


Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes- 
240D_W0QQitemZ4596821298QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi 
ewItem


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Re: [MBZ] QoD

2005-12-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Wal-Mart sells a Lubricating Gel which is like -15F 15w40 motoroil. I sprayed 
some of that on the hood latch when it was sticky and it free'd it right up. I 
also put some in Hammie's balky door lock which became smooth as silk.
I was nervous that the stuff would get impossible to turn in cold weather but 
at 1F it was only a little stiff and definately not any worse than than other 
vehicles I've had.
   
  -Curt
  '83 240D Hammie 249kmi
  '85 190D 233kmi
   
  Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:34:00 -0800
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 Speaking of not perfect, the 1985 300CD trunk lid won't close 
 properly.  I
 have to set the lid down and then press HARD to get it to close.  
 Otherwise,
 it just bounces back up when I slam it down the usual way.  Is there
 anything to lube to get it to be more obedient?

You could try squirting the latch with a little oil, but it could well
be that the latch is just misadjusted.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] oh boy, turbo 240

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
Nice way he posts the rust with a dollar by it.  size or is that the  
implied excessive cost to fix?  I do like that it has no lakes


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Re: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

2005-12-16 Thread Rick Knoble
Where are you?
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:50 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?


 I'm moving, and I really can't drag this car with me.  Make me an offer.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D prices

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
A 79?  WOW, never knew Acura made a 79.  I had an 87 integra and  
thought I was hot with an early model, but not as hot as your 79


On Thursday, December 15, 2005, at 08:03 PM, LT Don wrote:


I traded a 1979 Acura Integra for my Benz.

But then again, I was an idiot.

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somebody just paid $2100 for a 76 240D on ebay!  4597219965
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Re: [MBZ] 240D prices

2005-12-16 Thread LT Don
typo -- it was an 89 model.

On 12/16/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A 79?  WOW, never knew Acura made a 79.  I had an 87 integra and
 thought I was hot with an early model, but not as hot as your 79

 On Thursday, December 15, 2005, at 08:03 PM, LT Don wrote:

  I traded a 1979 Acura Integra for my Benz.
 
  But then again, I was an idiot.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D to the junkyard?

2005-12-16 Thread l02turner

Got any links to a photo - or something?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market

2005-12-16 Thread R A Bennell
Isn't there a theory that blue light helps the eyes adjust to night vision
or something similar? I don't see them anymore but I recall that stores used
to advertise (in catalogues) a small light that was to be mounted on the
windshield pillar on the driver's side. It had a blue lense and the idea was
that the light helped one see better at night. I don't know if it was
supposed to help with driving in the dark or with the eyes adjusting when
one met another vehicle on a dark stretch of 2 lane highway and had to deal
with the oncoming lights. Most of us now live in areas where it is never
really dark because of all of the streetlights etc so it may not be useful
anymore even it if actually was at some point in the past. I know it is a
bit disconcerting out at the lake in the summer as it is sometimes so dark
that one cannot see one's hand in front of one's face. Never seems to be
like that in the City.

So who knows, the underdash glow of blue may actually have some positive
application?

Randy

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David Brodbeck wrote:

 Maybe they're afraid of the people who buy Scions.  Kind of like how
 insurance companies tend to charge higher rates on cars that are
 attractive to teenagers.

Definitely idiot-oriented. Blue lights under the dash are an option
on the Xa, cruise control isn't. I might not have wanted the cruise
when I was 16, but I sure wouldn't have gone for the blue floor glow
after I was about twelve years old.

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car in Iowa

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
Get your GUMP now!  IIRC, the fellow with Gump had it listed as a real 
car for a few weeks on eBay, and must have decided it was parts car 
when he listed it the last time.  I am sure he thought the price would 
be higher than it was, but not the $2k he had it listed for as a real 
car.


On Friday, December 16, 2005, at 06:27 AM, LT Don wrote:


Because he is going to really hate himself when he sells it for $200.
Besides, he wrote back and said the car will be sold no matter what the
cost, etc.

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why would you do that?

LT Don wrote:


Actually, I just emailed the guy and suggested that he cancel the

auction

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[MBZ] Squeal like Cindy Brady

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
Gump has decided to squeal like a stuck pig when I drive.  Stick shift, 
and at slow speeds in first and second she lets out these long squeals 
that eventually fade.  Running M1 ATF for 5k miles or more, just came 
on in the past few cold weeks.  Does not start the noise from dead 
stop, but a few feet later.  Hit the clutch and it stops.


Fix recommended?  Other than rebuild the transmission


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Re: [MBZ] 240D prices

2005-12-16 Thread R A Bennell
I paid $6,500 Cdn for a 76 300D in July of this year. Car is in relatively
nice condition and there are very few around here. Sometimes, if you want
something, you have to pay what it takes to get it. I didn't have time to
travel around looking for a good one and this one sort of fell into my lap.
I just couldn't say no even though I knew the price was considerably higher
than most of you folks were suggesting was normal. I'm not sorry as I have
no intention of re-selling it. I hope to drive it every summer for the next
20 years and to improve it along the way so that it is even better then than
it is now. How's that for a plan?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
It is a Kmart thing.  Gets you in the mood for a bargain.  Must be a 
way to keep you from shopping at wally world


On Friday, December 16, 2005, at 11:05 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

Isn't there a theory that blue light helps the eyes adjust to night 
vision
or something similar? I don't see them anymore but I recall that 
stores used
to advertise (in catalogues) a small light that was to be mounted on 
the
windshield pillar on the driver's side. It had a blue lense and the 
idea was

that the light helped one see better at night. I don't know if it was
supposed to help with driving in the dark or with the eyes adjusting 
when
one met another vehicle on a dark stretch of 2 lane highway and had to 
deal
with the oncoming lights. Most of us now live in areas where it is 
never
really dark because of all of the streetlights etc so it may not be 
useful
anymore even it if actually was at some point in the past. I know it 
is a
bit disconcerting out at the lake in the summer as it is sometimes so 
dark
that one cannot see one's hand in front of one's face. Never seems to 
be

like that in the City.

So who knows, the underdash glow of blue may actually have some 
positive

application?

Randy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:23 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market


David Brodbeck wrote:


Maybe they're afraid of the people who buy Scions.  Kind of like how
insurance companies tend to charge higher rates on cars that are
attractive to teenagers.


Definitely idiot-oriented. Blue lights under the dash are an option
on the Xa, cruise control isn't. I might not have wanted the cruise
when I was 16, but I sure wouldn't have gone for the blue floor glow
after I was about twelve years old.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
I know that in aircraft a night light is usually a red light.  I'm not
going to get into wavelengths or anything, other than to note that I think
red light has a very short wavelength and blue is long-er than red.  How
much longer, if it makes any difference, why (or why not) is something I'll
leave up to an optometrist, physicist (if someone studies physics, why
isn't that person a physician...?) and the like.
Tom (eyes closed) Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 11:05 AM 12/16/2005 -0800, you wrote:

Isn't there a theory that blue light helps the eyes adjust to night vision
or something similar? I don't see them anymore but I recall that stores used
to advertise (in catalogues) a small light that was to be mounted on the
windshield pillar on the driver's side. It had a blue lense and the idea was
that the light helped one see better at night. I don't know if it was
supposed to help with driving in the dark or with the eyes adjusting when
one met another vehicle on a dark stretch of 2 lane highway and had to deal
with the oncoming lights. Most of us now live in areas where it is never
really dark because of all of the streetlights etc so it may not be useful
anymore even it if actually was at some point in the past. I know it is a
bit disconcerting out at the lake in the summer as it is sometimes so dark
that one cannot see one's hand in front of one's face. Never seems to be
like that in the City.

So who knows, the underdash glow of blue may actually have some positive
application?

Randy

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David Brodbeck wrote:

 Maybe they're afraid of the people who buy Scions.  Kind of like how
 insurance companies tend to charge higher rates on cars that are
 attractive to teenagers.

Definitely idiot-oriented. Blue lights under the dash are an option
on the Xa, cruise control isn't. I might not have wanted the cruise
when I was 16, but I sure wouldn't have gone for the blue floor glow
after I was about twelve years old.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
Blue light special, wonder if there's any connection (or why it was even
called this) blue plate special.  Now I have to go to Google.  Oh, boy...
Tom (stop thinking!) Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 09:19 AM 12/16/2005 -0800, you wrote:

It is a Kmart thing.  Gets you in the mood for a bargain.  Must be a 
way to keep you from shopping at wally world

On Friday, December 16, 2005, at 11:05 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

 Isn't there a theory that blue light helps the eyes adjust to night 
 vision
 or something similar? I don't see them anymore but I recall that 
 stores used
 to advertise (in catalogues) a small light that was to be mounted on 
 the
 windshield pillar on the driver's side. It had a blue lense and the 
 idea was
 that the light helped one see better at night. I don't know if it was
 supposed to help with driving in the dark or with the eyes adjusting 
 when
 one met another vehicle on a dark stretch of 2 lane highway and had to 
 deal
 with the oncoming lights. Most of us now live in areas where it is 
 never
 really dark because of all of the streetlights etc so it may not be 
 useful
 anymore even it if actually was at some point in the past. I know it 
 is a
 bit disconcerting out at the lake in the summer as it is sometimes so 
 dark
 that one cannot see one's hand in front of one's face. Never seems to 
 be
 like that in the City.

 So who knows, the underdash glow of blue may actually have some 
 positive
 application?

 Randy

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market


 David Brodbeck wrote:

 Maybe they're afraid of the people who buy Scions.  Kind of like how
 insurance companies tend to charge higher rates on cars that are
 attractive to teenagers.

 Definitely idiot-oriented. Blue lights under the dash are an option
 on the Xa, cruise control isn't. I might not have wanted the cruise
 when I was 16, but I sure wouldn't have gone for the blue floor glow
 after I was about twelve years old.

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[MBZ] No MB content: Blue Plate Special

2005-12-16 Thread Tom Reynolds
Well, that was pretty easy.  But now I'm hungry.  Why am I thinking of meat
loaf...?
(link to supposed origins of the term blue plate
special):http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-blu3.htm

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Re: [MBZ] 240D prices

2005-12-16 Thread redghost
Fellow at the gym just blew that in US$ for an 83 240D in really nice  
shape.  About the only thing wrong was the chrome pealing off the  
bundts.  Really low miles around 60k, stick, black paint shiny as new,  
and plastic about the same.  Seats are near new, and must have had a  
wee bitty woman driver


On Friday, December 16, 2005, at 11:24 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

I paid $6,500 Cdn for a 76 300D in July of this year. Car is in  
relatively
nice condition and there are very few around here. Sometimes, if you  
want
something, you have to pay what it takes to get it. I didn't have time  
to
travel around looking for a good one and this one sort of fell into my  
lap.
I just couldn't say no even though I knew the price was considerably  
higher
than most of you folks were suggesting was normal. I'm not sorry as I  
have
no intention of re-selling it. I hope to drive it every summer for the  
next
20 years and to improve it along the way so that it is even better  
then than

it is now. How's that for a plan?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 240D prices

2005-12-16 Thread redghost


On Friday, December 16, 2005, at 11:24 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

I paid $6,500 Cdn for a 76 300D in July of this year. Car is in  
relatively
nice condition and there are very few around here. Sometimes, if you  
want
something, you have to pay what it takes to get it. I didn't have time  
to
travel around looking for a good one and this one sort of fell into my  
lap.
I just couldn't say no even though I knew the price was considerably  
higher
than most of you folks were suggesting was normal. I'm not sorry as I  
have
no intention of re-selling it. I hope to drive it every summer for the  
next
20 years and to improve it along the way so that it is even better  
then than

it is now. How's that for a plan?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market

2005-12-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:38:05 -0700 Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I know that in aircraft a night light is usually a red light.  I'm not
 going to get into wavelengths or anything, other than to note that I
 think red light has a very short wavelength and blue is long-er than
 red.  How much longer, if it makes any difference, why (or why not) is
 something I'll leave up to an optometrist, physicist (if someone studies
 physics, why isn't that person a physician...?) and the like.

I'm a physicist; my Dad's a physician...

Red light has a longer wavelength than blue light. The wavelength of red
light is nearly twice as long as the wavelength of blue light.

Red light affects your night vision less than blue light. Astronomers have
flashlights with red filters.


Craig



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