Re: [MBZ] door pocket repairs?
If the tab is broken you just pull the door panel off, and get a screw with a big washer and screw it into where the tab broke off from the backside of the panel, works fine. Alan Duff wrote: You can usually get them cheaply on Ebay or Kaleb might have one. After fixing one with plastic and super glue I found it is not worth it. Gluing the pocket to the door just doesn't last over a few days. Alan Duff Knoxvile, TN On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:22:12 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : My 115 300D has the plastic map pocket type things on the front doors. The passenger side is ok but the driver's side has fallen off. The bottom tilt in plastic pieces are intact but both upper corners are broken on the inside where the flange with the hole is. Has anyone had success in repairing this in a manner that is cosmetically appealing? If the outside surface was flatter, I would just put a stainless steel screw through each corner and call it acceptable. However, the curve is such that it could not be done neatly. I therefore believe I need to find some solution to repair of the broken flange inside. If I clean the plastic and rough it up, can I expect some form of epoxy to stick to it reasonably well? I tried a similar approach on the plastic panels on the rear barn doors of my old Suburban and never had any long term success. I tried a number of different types of repair type mixes from basic epoxy to stuff for repairing auto bumpers and it never stayed totally stuck to the original part. Any other ideas? I also thought I might ultimately make something that would replace the whole pocket from wood - either carved out of a solid block or perhaps laminated from veneers but my wife suggests that would be a tacky thing to do to a relatively ancient Mercedes. She may be right. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] RR Front Brake Rotors - 1990 126 300SE
Hello, I've removed the front brake rotors from my 1990 300SE (126) with the hubs/bearings intact. I got the allen bolts out but haven't been able to separate the rotors from the center hubs. I wonder if I could get some advice on a couple of things. 1. Does a press have to be used to get the rotors off the hubs? Will most machine shops do this or is it a job for an auto repair shop? 2. Is there a backyard way of getting them off using hand tools? 3. Does the hub come out of the center hole of the rotor from back to front or front to back? 4. How much play is allowable in the outside wheel bearings. These have a very small amount of play in them but you can move them a little. The car has about 150,000 miles on it. Thanks for any help you can offer. Les -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:16 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 9, Issue 139 Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. door pocket repairs? (Donald Snook) 2. Re: Deceleration Control? (Marshall Booth) 3. My new 4x4 (redghost) 4. Re: door pocket repairs? (R A Bennell) 5. Re: My new 4x4 (R A Bennell) 6. Interesting odometer reading ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:13:16 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] door pocket repairs? To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Randy wrote: I also thought I might ultimately make something that would replace the whole pocket from wood - either carved out of a solid block or perhaps laminated from veneers but my wife suggests that would be a tacky thing to do to a relatively ancient Mercedes. She may be right Your wife is Right! Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:08:56 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deceleration Control? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed LarryT wrote: Howdy - My '91 300D 2.5T (110k miles)acts like the accelerator is dropped too fast when I remove my foot from the accelerator and go for the brake. The engine seems to idle too slowly for a few seconds before regaining its composure and idling smoothly once again. It seems like there a controller that should be slowing the drop in rpm's as I begin to brake but instead is dropping the linkage against the stops before a controller advances the idle speed slightly. If I slow gradualy it doesn;t do this - it slows in a natural, progressive movement. Any electronic gizmo's that do this sort of thing? Now, I'm off to browse the electrical schematic's and WSM. If you adjust the ALDA out (counterclockwise) between 1 and 1 1/2 turns from the factory setting, I expect the effect you've noticed will vanish. It has in the OM60x.96 engines I've owned. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:28:28 -0700 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] My new 4x4 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed 1972 CADILLAC V-100 APC 4x4 armored personnel carrier, V8, 5 spd, winch Well, not yet. It is at the heavy equipment auction coming up. http://www.murphyauctions.net/kenmore06sep.html You can now bid live and here are a few of the items of interest to the list 2002 MERCEDES CLK 320, 6 cyl, auto, convertible 1995 MERCEDES S600, V12, auto, p/s, p/b, a/c, sunroof 1998 MERCEDES ML320 4x4, 6 cyl, auto, p/s, p/b, a/c, sunroof I am not sure what they did with the three gazelle replicars -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:44:32 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] door pocket repairs? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well, I was not considering making something ugly. I was thinking in terms of trying to match the wood in the dash. I might
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. So you paid what, like $500? I will give you $650. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Oh, I didnt really pay any cash for it at all, I got it in on trade. I do have more than 500 in it though :) Rick Knoble wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. So you paid what, like $500? I will give you $650. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ Is it just me or does it still have a trap oxidizer on it? Also, People can spend a lot of money to make cars look good and still have them be pills of junk. My .02 Mike
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Yes, it still has the trap. Gooodie!! That means I get to go to the dealer and get a free exhaust system and maybe a new turbo. Michael Hall wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ Is it just me or does it still have a trap oxidizer on it? Also, People can spend a lot of money to make cars look good and still have them be pills of junk. My .02 Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] cheap 124 diesel
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-DT-1987-Mercedes-Benz-300DT-Turbo-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ150027795993QQihZ005QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] man this is a nice 115, or at least the pictures look nice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-D-1975-MERCEDES-BENZ-300D-4-DR-DEISEL_W0QQitemZ160024840346QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] My new 4x4
snip I am not sure what they did with the three gazelle replicars -- Clay Seattle Bioburner Crush 'em? Tony wirtel 92 300 vergasser 85 300sd- motor donor or Ebay car in waiting
Re: [MBZ] RR Front Brake Rotors - 1990 126 300SE
I've removed the front brake rotors from my 1990 300SE (126) with the hubs/bearings intact. I got the allen bolts out but haven't been able to separate I'm a bit confused, IIRC you _always_ get the hub/rotor assembly off first. the rotors from the center hubs. I wonder if I could get some advice on a couple of things. 1. Does a press have to be used to get the rotors off the hubs? Will most machine shops do this or is it a job for an auto repair shop? 2. Is there a backyard way of getting them off using hand tools? IIRC, they either just about fall off or I just knocked them off with a rubber mallet. I don't recall any special measures being required. 3. Does the hub come out of the center hole of the rotor from back to front or front to back? The rotors come off the hub towards the inside of the car. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
At some time fairly close to Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:07:48 -0500, rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: Oh, I didnt really pay any cash for it at all, I got it in on trade. I do have more than 500 in it though :) Aak!!! Where's the moose!??! Kaleb just paid (made an exchange in good of value) _more_ than $500 for a car??!!!?? Oh, the world _must_ be coming to an end -- Philip, going out to make signs. Beware the moose, the world is about to end!!
Re: [MBZ] Interesting odometer reading
Definitely play it in the lottery.
Dwight
Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co.
Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess
1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess
Wickford, RI
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Subject: [MBZ] Interesting odometer reading
(I hope no one suffers from triscadecaphobia)
('99 E300Dt)
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[MBZ] used parts specials for 8/31
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Oh, NO! I see a grommet missing from the bracket that supports the large vacuum tube as it leaves the pump! There's a stain on the dirvers side of the intake manifold! So that's what my car would look lke with the clear coat intact! However, you'd better gat a re-spray to fix those stone chips around the headlights! -- OK Don, in SDL envy '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Interesting odometer reading
Wow - I think that's the first non-mechanical MB odometer I've ever seen - on. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
does this mean we can negotiate on the other one that'll sit for ever because you have no time to fix it? On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:54:03 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Exactly which of the three dozen vehicles in Regina's back yard are you describing? On 8/31/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does this mean we can negotiate on the other one that'll sit for ever because you have no time to fix it? -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, when Regina gets a hold of it. On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:54:03 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
the head case SDL On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:07:42 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly which of the three dozen vehicles in Regina's back yard are you describing? On 8/31/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does this mean we can negotiate on the other one that'll sit for ever because you have no time to fix it? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
DROOOLL, it has reclining rear seat. On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:54:03 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Interesting odometer reading
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, OK Don wrote: Wow - I think that's the first non-mechanical MB odometer I've ever seen - on. Yeha, it took some getting used to... At least the gauges are still analog (nevermind that the connections are via a CAN bus) -j.
Re: [MBZ] RR Front Brake Rotors - 1990 126 300SE
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've removed the front brake rotors from my 1990 300SE (126) with the hubs/bearings intact. I got the allen bolts out but haven't been able to separate the rotors from the center hubs. I wonder if I could get some advice on a couple of things. 1. Does a press have to be used to get the rotors off the hubs? Will most machine shops do this or is it a job for an auto repair shop? Nope. They just fall off 2. Is there a backyard way of getting them off using hand tools? Yep 3. Does the hub come out of the center hole of the rotor from back to front or front to back? The rotor sits behind the hub. There is no way of pulling it that I am aware of that does not involve removing the hub from the spindle. 4. How much play is allowable in the outside wheel bearings. These have a very small amount of play in them but you can move them a little. The total play in the bearings is what counts. This MUST be set with a dial gauge. I seem to recall that the value is (in inches) something ridiculous like 5 tenths (0.0005). I've always wondered if that was close to the play that could be caused by the natural elasticity of steel and cast iron. -j.
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Oh no! I think its missing some options (ortho seats and bun toasters) Were the stains on the engine where you sat your sandwich :) ? Where did they stick the radar receiver (I'm betting behind the plastic bumper...) (That is a radar detector, right?) -j
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Looks like it still has the trap on it. Nice car though. Dave Wakin - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deceleration Control?
Marshall wrote:adjust the ALDA out (counterclockwise) between 1 and 1 1/2 turns from the factory setting, I expect the effect you've noticed will vanish. Thanks Marshall, Your experience on these cars is encyclopaedic! I plan to change the ALDA soon (when I replace the GPs) -- hopefully, next week when I get my parts shipment from Rusty. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deceleration Control? LarryT wrote: Howdy - My '91 300D 2.5T (110k miles)acts like the accelerator is dropped too fast when I remove my foot from the accelerator and go for the brake. The engine seems to idle too slowly for a few seconds before regaining its composure and idling smoothly once again. It seems like there a controller that should be slowing the drop in rpm's as I begin to brake but instead is dropping the linkage against the stops before a controller advances the idle speed slightly. If I slow gradualy it doesn;t do this - it slows in a natural, progressive movement. Any electronic gizmo's that do this sort of thing? Now, I'm off to browse the electrical schematic's and WSM. If you adjust the ALDA out (counterclockwise) between 1 and 1 1/2 turns from the factory setting, I expect the effect you've noticed will vanish. It has in the OM60x.96 engines I've owned. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Nice looking SDL! Hopefullly the mechanicals will be as nice as everything looks. BTW, what's that thing that looks like a controller in the console? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL Yes, it still has the trap. Gooodie!! That means I get to go to the dealer and get a free exhaust system and maybe a new turbo. Michael Hall wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ Is it just me or does it still have a trap oxidizer on it? Also, People can spend a lot of money to make cars look good and still have them be pills of junk. My .02 Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
[MBZ] W123 brake bleeding, any gotchas?
Dieselers, The 79 240D project car is nearing road worthiness again (and not a moment too soon the 87 300TD has had numerous pending jobs postponed) thanks in no small part to the members of this list. After the caliper rebuild and the rear hub helicoil jobs, the only thing still on the list is a good brake bleeding. The left front caliper was full of air mostly once reassembled and I attempted to pump bleed it out with the help of the car's future primary driver, but when I moved it down the driveway the other day it became obvious that there is still air in the system. Are there any tricks to bleeding a W123 system? Seems like a straightforward job, but my results to date are less than acceptable. ...Kevin 87 300TD 285k mi 79 240D 161k mi
Re: [MBZ] W123 brake bleeding, any gotchas?
obvious that there is still air in the system. Are there any tricks to bleeding a W123 system? Seems like a straightforward job, but my results to date are less than acceptable. Wash, rinse, repeat! You do the rear first, either side first, then the RF, then the LF. I had trouble on the 190D (using a check-valve one man bleeder dingus) until I got the wife in the front seat and did the whole verbal commands thing to sync the opening and closing of the bleeders with her pedal action. Too much backwards air leakage otherwise. You _did_ get the bleed screws mounted upwards, right? Left and right calipers are not interchangeable. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] W123 brake bleeding, any gotchas?
Build this puppy to bleed them. http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm Makes it an easy one man job and you don't take the chance of ruining the seals in the master cylinder. Justbe sure the caps over the fluid lever sensors, if you have them, and the grommets between the tank and the MC are good. If not you will have a mess. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:19:52 -0400 (EDT), Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Dieselers, The 79 240D project car is nearing road worthiness again (and not a moment too soon the 87 300TD has had numerous pending jobs postponed) thanks in no small part to the members of this list. After the caliper rebuild and the rear hub helicoil jobs, the only thing still on the list is a good brake bleeding. The left front caliper was full of air mostly once reassembled and I attempted to pump bleed it out with the help of the car's future primary driver, but when I moved it down the driveway the other day it became obvious that there is still air in the system. Are there any tricks to bleeding a W123 system? Seems like a straightforward job, but my results to date are less than acceptable. ...Kevin 87 300TD 285k mi 79 240D 161k mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. So, how much do you want to sell it to me for? How 'bout a trade for a nice 1990 300SEL with only 129K? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K
Re: [MBZ] W123 brake bleeding, any gotchas?
Jim Cathey wrote: I got the wife in the front seat and did the whole verbal commands thing to sync the opening and closing of the bleeders with her pedal action. Too much backwards air leakage otherwise. The only thing that works for me (short of a power bleeder or two person bleed) is to put a plain hose (no check valve) on the bleeder, run the hose to the bottom of the catch bottle, and suspend the bottle above the bleeder. Siphon action keeps a slight positive pressure on the bleeder and no air gets in through the bleeder threads. MityVac always sucked air in through the bleeder threads when I tried to use it. Mitch.
[MBZ] Test Test
Haven't received any MBZ posts since Mon 8/28/2006 20:36 Is the list down? Am I unsubscribed? Is kaleb mad at me? Scott Ritchey Kittrell NC 1982 300SD 220K 1979 300TD 350K attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
why yes, yes it does. You ever driven one of these things? Luther Gulseth wrote: DROOOLL, it has reclining rear seat. On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:54:03 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
I have never seen an SDL with ortho or heated seats, although Im sure they are out there. What stain are you talking about? John W. Reames III wrote: Oh no! I think its missing some options (ortho seats and bun toasters) Were the stains on the engine where you sat your sandwich :) ? Where did they stick the radar receiver (I'm betting behind the plastic bumper...) (That is a radar detector, right?) -j ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Radar detector. Looks like a dealer ad on deal, it has the star and everything on it. LarryT wrote: Nice looking SDL! Hopefullly the mechanicals will be as nice as everything looks. BTW, what's that thing that looks like a controller in the console? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL Yes, it still has the trap. Gooodie!! That means I get to go to the dealer and get a free exhaust system and maybe a new turbo. Michael Hall wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ Is it just me or does it still have a trap oxidizer on it? Also, People can spend a lot of money to make cars look good and still have them be pills of junk. My .02 Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
I've been getting some of the posts but I sent a note to Ned Kleinhenz and it never made it to the list - but my other notes made it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL why yes, yes it does. You ever driven one of these things? Luther Gulseth wrote: DROOOLL, it has reclining rear seat. On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:54:03 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
What stain? OK Don wrote: Oh, NO! I see a grommet missing from the bracket that supports the large vacuum tube as it leaves the pump! There's a stain on the dirvers side of the intake manifold! So that's what my car would look lke with the clear coat intact! However, you'd better gat a re-spray to fix those stone chips around the headlights! -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] More Fuel Tank Anatomy
Well I removed the filter from the tank of my '95 E300D and found it clogged with slime. So it seems like the tank should be removed and cleaned because there must be more slime in there to just clog the filter again. I removed the level sensor, boot at the filler, bottom hoses etc, and the 4 nuts visible from the tunk. Did everything just like the manual says. The tank would not budge. I even started to bend it using a crow bar. WTF? Are there more bolts somewhere on a 124 tank? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
$8250 and its yours. I need to buy a 140. Donald Snook wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. So, how much do you want to sell it to me for? How 'bout a trade for a nice 1990 300SEL with only 129K? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Hi Kaleb, It really looks like you got a really nice SDL there - we all know how nice they are to begin with - this one looks special. Those creature comfort options will make it a pleasure to cruise in - hopefully all those gizmos work. Let me know when you put a price on it - I probably cannot justify spending more money on cars but you never know ~ Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL Radar detector. Looks like a dealer ad on deal, it has the star and everything on it. LarryT wrote: Nice looking SDL! Hopefullly the mechanicals will be as nice as everything looks. BTW, what's that thing that looks like a controller in the console? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL Yes, it still has the trap. Gooodie!! That means I get to go to the dealer and get a free exhaust system and maybe a new turbo. Michael Hall wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ Is it just me or does it still have a trap oxidizer on it? Also, People can spend a lot of money to make cars look good and still have them be pills of junk. My .02 Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006
Re: [MBZ] W123 brake bleeding, any gotchas?
Ok. So I tried to take a short cut and only bleed the left front, which is the only caliper I worked on. All things considered, we should just do the whole system I guess. ...Kevin Jim Cathey said: obvious that there is still air in the system. Are there any tricks to bleeding a W123 system? Seems like a straightforward job, but my results to date are less than acceptable. Wash, rinse, repeat! You do the rear first, either side first, then the RF, then the LF. I had trouble on the 190D (using a check-valve one man bleeder dingus) until I got the wife in the front seat and did the whole verbal commands thing to sync the opening and closing of the bleeders with her pedal action. Too much backwards air leakage otherwise. You _did_ get the bleed screws mounted upwards, right? Left and right calipers are not interchangeable. -- Jim -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
I have never seen an SDL with ortho or heated seats, although Im sure they are out there. What stain are you talking about? No ortho here, but I did grab a (ratty) set of heated seats (and all accouterments) from a 500 SEL, the idea was to use its bits to put heated seats in our two SL's. Someday? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] W123 brake bleeding, any gotchas?
Hi Kevin, Yep - the lines always seem to get air in them even though only one corner was worked on.. and it works best to start at the corner the farthest from the MC and work your way closer. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! www.youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 brake bleeding, any gotchas? Ok. So I tried to take a short cut and only bleed the left front, which is the only caliper I worked on. All things considered, we should just do the whole system I guess. ...Kevin Jim Cathey said: obvious that there is still air in the system. Are there any tricks to bleeding a W123 system? Seems like a straightforward job, but my results to date are less than acceptable. Wash, rinse, repeat! You do the rear first, either side first, then the RF, then the LF. I had trouble on the 190D (using a check-valve one man bleeder dingus) until I got the wife in the front seat and did the whole verbal commands thing to sync the opening and closing of the bleeders with her pedal action. Too much backwards air leakage otherwise. You _did_ get the bleed screws mounted upwards, right? Left and right calipers are not interchangeable. -- Jim -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006
Re: [MBZ] More Fuel Tank Anatomy
Hi Ned, The diagram shows only nuts but doen't say how many. The Station Wagon has a bar held in place by the nuts but not the sedan. Do you have the Fuel Tank Removal instructions? I don't think the crowbar is a good idea though. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: [MBZ] More Fuel Tank Anatomy Well I removed the filter from the tank of my '95 E300D and found it clogged with slime. So it seems like the tank should be removed and cleaned because there must be more slime in there to just clog the filter again. I removed the level sensor, boot at the filler, bottom hoses etc, and the 4 nuts visible from the tunk. Did everything just like the manual says. The tank would not budge. I even started to bend it using a crow bar. WTF? Are there more bolts somewhere on a 124 tank? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Did you just say goodie? This car has you all giddy. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL Yes, it still has the trap. Gooodie!! That means I get to go to the dealer and get a free exhaust system and maybe a new turbo. Michael Hall wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/8730sdl/ Is it just me or does it still have a trap oxidizer on it? Also, People can spend a lot of money to make cars look good and still have them be pills of junk. My .02 Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
Philip noted: Kaleb just paid (made an exchange in good of value) _more_ than $500 for a car??!!!?? Someone better make sure his family is still around Bob Rentfro
[MBZ] 'Burb Benz Package Deal $700
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/car/201680090.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 01 16:48:04 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GJCBY-0006ji-Bd for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:48:04 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id 20060901164748m12008ef0je; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 16:47:49 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:47:47 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Fuel Tank Anatomy X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:48:05 - ned kleinhenz wrote: Well I removed the filter from the tank of my '95 E300D and found it clogged with slime. So it seems like the tank should be removed and cleaned because there must be more slime in there to just clog the filter again. I removed the level sensor, boot at the filler, bottom hoses etc, and the 4 nuts visible from the tunk. Did everything just like the manual says. The tank would not budge. I even started to bend it using a crow bar. WTF? Are there more bolts somewhere on a 124 tank? A tank that hasn't been removed since it was assembled at the factory will be STUCK in place. You will need to CAREFULLY pry at points where the flat surfaces abut to the chassis. Be sure you have replacement soft parts (sound deadening material) to reinstall the tank before you remove it entirely (it's glued in place and you need something like the adhesive that Mercedes uses). I don't believe it's appropriate to reuse the old soft parts. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Deceleration Control?
LarryT wrote: Marshall wrote:adjust the ALDA out (counterclockwise) between 1 and 1 1/2 turns from the factory setting, I expect the effect you've noticed will vanish. Thanks Marshall, Your experience on these cars is encyclopaedic! I plan to change the ALDA soon (when I replace the GPs) -- hopefully, next week when I get my parts shipment from Rusty. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Why are you changing the ALDA? They don't usually wear out! About all that usually happens is that people that don't know what they are doing damage them by playing with them. They really require setting and then they should be stable for many, many years. If your acceleration numbers drop a bit THEN you might want to readjust them AFTER you've made sure everything else is working properly. Most ALDAs don't require readjustment (except the ones that were set VERY lean right from the factory). It's NOT something that needs periodic adjustment. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Possible damage caused by heated WVO
Which company did you go with? Or did you do all of it yourself? I like the idea of a one-tank setup, if it's as good as a secondary tank setup. Thanks. Brian 83 240D On 8/22/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've run over 40,000 miles on a single tank conversion using waste canola oil in my S350 and I have yet to see any of the problems mentioned in this post. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 8/21/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problems with WVO are : It won't flow well enough cold for the engine to start, so you MUST run on diesel fuel long enough to fill the IP with diesel fuel completely before shutting off It won't flow well enough unheated to run the car at all, so you must heat the fuel even in the summer unless is 100F or more out (and even then it's better heated) It will varnish the IP up terribly unless flushed fairly often with injection cleaner. Otherwise it works fine, much less smoke, no diesel smell, but slightly less hp and milage. In low compression (16:1) engines, it can also varnish up the rings from lousy combustion. Not a problem in a Benz. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Possible damage caused by heated WVO
I bought an Elsbett kit - which was a complete waste of time and money. The connectors did not match the hoses. Parts were missing. They swapped nozzles on the injectors and 4 out of the 6 leaked. They stopped responding to my emails. Okay, maybe the last few were a bit terse, but only after they ignored me for 2 weeks. Overall a fiasco. I was able to use it as a guide to plumb in a real flat plate heat exchanger and ended up wrapping the fuel lines with an outer hose and diverting coolant to heat them, and bought a new set of injectors. The downside to a 1-tank kit is that you have to thin the waste oil with diesel or kerosene when it gets cold. How cold and how thin depends on the type and condition of your waste oil. I'm good to somewhere in the 50's F before it idles rough when cold. If I plug it in, I'm good to the high 30's F. If I thin 50/50 with diesel or with 25% kerosene, I'm good to somewhere below 0F. It's always plugged in when it's that cold, however. I'm a proponent of using a 2-tank setup. You save more in the long run. Over time the diesel tank will build up a percentage of WVO from the purge cycle, so you want to try to minimize the volume of fuel that gets exchanged on a switchover. At the moment, I'm playing with a high pressure coolant circuit that uses 3/8 Nylon 11 tubing for both the fuel and coolant lines. Much easier to route than the huge 4-hose kits out there. I'd avoid doing the hose-in-hose thing again - high maintenance. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300. On 9/1/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which company did you go with? Or did you do all of it yourself? I like the idea of a one-tank setup, if it's as good as a secondary tank setup. Thanks. Brian 83 240D On 8/22/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've run over 40,000 miles on a single tank conversion using waste canola oil in my S350 and I have yet to see any of the problems mentioned in this post. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 8/21/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problems with WVO are : It won't flow well enough cold for the engine to start, so you MUST run on diesel fuel long enough to fill the IP with diesel fuel completely before shutting off It won't flow well enough unheated to run the car at all, so you must heat the fuel even in the summer unless is 100F or more out (and even then it's better heated) It will varnish the IP up terribly unless flushed fairly often with injection cleaner. Otherwise it works fine, much less smoke, no diesel smell, but slightly less hp and milage. In low compression (16:1) engines, it can also varnish up the rings from lousy combustion. Not a problem in a Benz. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 'Burb Benz Package Deal $700
If both the Mercedes and Suburban are deisel, that's a killer deal! Too bad they're not in my neck of the woods. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, no MB diesel yet
Re: [MBZ] MBZ] Yes, I am now the king of the SDL
The last thing you want is a cheap W140. They are expensive enough to keep running when you start with a good one. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/1/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 08:54:36AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: $8250 and its yours. I need to buy a 140. Wow. Kaleb's on crack. They're cheaper than that out here in CA. K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Possible damage caused by heated WVO
I too have heard several people say various conversion kits are a waste. So, Dave...if you've found a 50/50 mix is good down to zero, then all I should have to do...since I'm leaning towards a one-tank system...is to do a mix in winter when it gets cold here (hardly ever freezing) you reckon? If you get a sec, you should to work up a little Jim C-esque page a on the pieces/parts a guy like me would need to get, and how easy it is to install, based on your experience, to do a single tank conversion. I paid $3.20 for #2 today. The madness must stop! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 158K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Possible damage caused by heated WVO I bought an Elsbett kit - which was a complete waste of time and money. The connectors did not match the hoses. Parts were missing. They swapped nozzles on the injectors and 4 out of the 6 leaked. They stopped responding to my emails. Okay, maybe the last few were a bit terse, but only after they ignored me for 2 weeks. Overall a fiasco. I was able to use it as a guide to plumb in a real flat plate heat exchanger and ended up wrapping the fuel lines with an outer hose and diverting coolant to heat them, and bought a new set of injectors. The downside to a 1-tank kit is that you have to thin the waste oil with diesel or kerosene when it gets cold. How cold and how thin depends on the type and condition of your waste oil. I'm good to somewhere in the 50's F before it idles rough when cold. If I plug it in, I'm good to the high 30's F. If I thin 50/50 with diesel or with 25% kerosene, I'm good to somewhere below 0F. It's always plugged in when it's that cold, however. I'm a proponent of using a 2-tank setup. You save more in the long run. Over time the diesel tank will build up a percentage of WVO from the purge cycle, so you want to try to minimize the volume of fuel that gets exchanged on a switchover. At the moment, I'm playing with a high pressure coolant circuit that uses 3/8 Nylon 11 tubing for both the fuel and coolant lines. Much easier to route than the huge 4-hose kits out there. I'd avoid doing the hose-in-hose thing again - high maintenance. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300. On 9/1/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which company did you go with? Or did you do all of it yourself? I like the idea of a one-tank setup, if it's as good as a secondary tank setup. Thanks. Brian 83 240D On 8/22/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've run over 40,000 miles on a single tank conversion using waste canola oil in my S350 and I have yet to see any of the problems mentioned in this post. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 8/21/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problems with WVO are : It won't flow well enough cold for the engine to start, so you MUST run on diesel fuel long enough to fill the IP with diesel fuel completely before shutting off It won't flow well enough unheated to run the car at all, so you must heat the fuel even in the summer unless is 100F or more out (and even then it's better heated) It will varnish the IP up terribly unless flushed fairly often with injection cleaner. Otherwise it works fine, much less smoke, no diesel smell, but slightly less hp and milage. In low compression (16:1) engines, it can also varnish up the rings from lousy combustion. Not a problem in a Benz. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is there an echo in here?
My latest arrival, one of the nicest SDL's I have seen in a LONG time. Features brand new seat covers, brand new vacuum pump, etc. Apparanly was owned by a old military guy who spared no expense, till he died. How many times is this going to be reposted and quoted? Up to 77 times now. RLE
Re: [MBZ] RR Front Brake Rotors - 1990 126 300SE
Heat the rotor face at the bolt holes with a torch (NOT the hub, please). Rotor will pop off when it heats up. Clean the face of the hub with a wire brush and apply antiseize between new rotor and hub going back on. Peter.
Re: [MBZ] Deceleration Control?
Sorry - I should have said I intend to change the **setting of** the ALDA, not Change the ALDA - I will turn the screw CCW 1-1.5 turns as you suggest. Even when I proofread my posts I miss stuff - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deceleration Control? LarryT wrote: Marshall wrote:adjust the ALDA out (counterclockwise) between 1 and 1 1/2 turns from the factory setting, I expect the effect you've noticed will vanish. Thanks Marshall, Your experience on these cars is encyclopaedic! I plan to change the ALDA soon (when I replace the GPs) -- hopefully, next week when I get my parts shipment from Rusty. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Why are you changing the ALDA? They don't usually wear out! About all that usually happens is that people that don't know what they are doing damage them by playing with them. They really require setting and then they should be stable for many, many years. If your acceleration numbers drop a bit THEN you might want to readjust them AFTER you've made sure everything else is working properly. Most ALDAs don't require readjustment (except the ones that were set VERY lean right from the factory). It's NOT something that needs periodic adjustment. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006
