Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Well, I'm pretty sure it's starting in 1st as the engine is at about the same speeds as when I manually select L like up the hill tonight... It certainly seems like I'm missing a gear... Levi On 10/17/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 06:05:58PM -0400, Levi Smith wrote: OK, for some reason I was thinking the tranny in my 83' 300D was a 4 speed. It's shifted rather hard since I got it more than a year ago. Then the other day a thought occurred to me and I paid more attention today. Sure enough it seems like I only have (or am using) 3 gears. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm missing 3rd as it's always hardest shifting into top gear. So what I'm wondering if that's why it clunks so hard is because it's dropping from 2nd into 4th. Am I stoned and this is only a 3 speed? Or have I somehow lost a gear? If I lost a gear, how the heck can that happen? Your car starts in second gear unless you punch it really hard from a start or have manually selected 'L'. It is a four speed. If it's a manual, we really need to work on our clutch skills if it's shifting hard :) K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Did you select L from a stop? If you were rolling, selecting L will get 2nd. Try flooring it - punching the kick down switch from a stop. You should hear/feel it shifting into 2nd. in 15-25 MPH range (I forget exactly where it's supposed to shift into 2nd.). On 10/17/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm pretty sure it's starting in 1st as the engine is at about the same speeds as when I manually select L like up the hill tonight... It certainly seems like I'm missing a gear... Levi -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Election Result.......
Hey, Don.. Love to have you back. Let me know... Take care, Chuck On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:48 PM, OK Don wrote: Congratulations!!! Maybe I'll need to join again -
[MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab
Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford F-150 extended cab pickup? Has anyone had experience with a company on the 'net at www.leatherseats.com? This is a birthday present for a relative. Thanks. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D
Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab
archer wrote: Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford F-150 extended cab pickup? Does World Upholstery do Fords? Can you get good power leather seats from a Lariat or King Ranch truck on the salvage market? Drop in replacement if you can find them. Not cheap, but probably no worse than a set of quality leather covers.
Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab
why get leather when you can get sheepskin? On 10/17/06, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford F-150 extended cab pickup? Has anyone had experience with a company on the 'net at www.leatherseats.com? This is a birthday present for a relative. Thanks. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
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Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
All MB diesels start out in 1st. Most MB gas models start out in 2nd unless you do the L thing, Find a flat road, floor it, watch the hash marks on the speedo and count the shifts as you get to around 70 or so...there should be 3 shifts as you have a 4 speed transmisson. While you are at it, time the seconds to 60, should be around 13 seconds or so for a turbo. John On 10/17/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you select L from a stop? If you were rolling, selecting L will get 2nd. Try flooring it - punching the kick down switch from a stop. You should hear/feel it shifting into 2nd. in 15-25 MPH range (I forget exactly where it's supposed to shift into 2nd.). On 10/17/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm pretty sure it's starting in 1st as the engine is at about the same speeds as when I manually select L like up the hill tonight... It certainly seems like I'm missing a gear... Levi -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT E85 Use
Zoltan Finks wrote: Ah thanks for pointing that out. I believe that every diesel nozzle used to be too large to fit in unleaded cars though, at least at the service station I worked at. Well, once upon a time there was no such thing as a car diesel pump. My '82 Vanagon had a neck big enough for one of the huge truck nozzles, as did my friend's '80 Dasher. The Dasher's tank held something like 12 gallons, so it filled up *really* quick if you used the truck pump. ;)
Re: [MBZ] OT E85 Use
Zoltan Finks wrote: As for the actual reason that leaded shouldn't go into an unleaded vehicle, that's another issue (apparently a hot one for some). No real mystery to it. The lead kills oxygen sensors and poisons catalytic converters.
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
It's a 4 speed that starts out in 3rd. The hard 3 - 4 gear shifting is the nature of the transmission. It can be adjusted out but at the expense of loosening up the 2 - 3 shift accelerating transmission wear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? OK, for some reason I was thinking the tranny in my 83' 300D was a 4 speed. It's shifted rather hard since I got it more than a year ago. Then the other day a thought occurred to me and I paid more attention today. Sure enough it seems like I only have (or am using) 3 gears. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm missing 3rd as it's always hardest shifting into top gear. So what I'm wondering if that's why it clunks so hard is because it's dropping from 2nd into 4th. Am I stoned and this is only a 3 speed? Or have I somehow lost a gear? If I lost a gear, how the heck can that happen? Thanks! Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT E85 Use
I remember those days. It you weren't careful, some pumps would spray diesel 4' past the nozzle before cutting off. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT E85 Use Zoltan Finks wrote: Ah thanks for pointing that out. I believe that every diesel nozzle used to be too large to fit in unleaded cars though, at least at the service station I worked at. Well, once upon a time there was no such thing as a car diesel pump. My '82 Vanagon had a neck big enough for one of the huge truck nozzles, as did my friend's '80 Dasher. The Dasher's tank held something like 12 gallons, so it filled up *really* quick if you used the truck pump. ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab
Because my relative wants leather. Gerry - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] why get leather when you can get sheepskin? On 10/17/06, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford F-150 extended cab pickup? Has anyone had experience with a company on the 'net at www.leatherseats.com? This is a birthday present for a relative. Thanks. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Wow! According to some of the listers, a diesel transmission for an '83 300D: Always starts in FIRST, Always starts in SECOND, Always starts in THIRD. Anybody want to chime in Always starts in FOURTH... YMMV Having owned a 1980 300SD (don't know the trans #'s), it ALWAYS started from a dead stop in SECOND (if the pedal not put to the metal). If I floored it, it ALWAYS started in FIRST and I could count the shifts and monitor them on the speedo with the I, II, III, IV marks.. And when I autocrossed her, I put the trans shifter in S, held the brakes, revved the engine to 2,400 rpms (to spool the turbo), dumped the brakes and WENT FOR IT! Never took the trans out of the S position. RPM's would go to 4,500+ And stayed in SECOND and THIRD, but could reach FIRST by flooring it.I do miss the mistress.. So named because I spent a lot of money on her, a lot of time w/her and liked to crawl under her and screw around. A quote from a former girlfriend. After AXing, she would run a whole lot better... I mean the 300SD!!! Time to go back to reality. Granted my experience is only anecdotal (I laugh at it sometimes, too), but I believe that is how all diesel transmissions were designed. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ Now a total gasser w/ a 1986 190E 2.3 16V and a 1992 500E... On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: It's a 4 speed that starts out in 3rd. The hard 3 - 4 gear shifting is the nature of the transmission. It can be adjusted out but at the expense of loosening up the 2 - 3 shift accelerating transmission wear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? OK, for some reason I was thinking the tranny in my 83' 300D was a 4 speed. It's shifted rather hard since I got it more than a year ago. Then the other day a thought occurred to me and I paid more attention today. Sure enough it seems like I only have (or am using) 3 gears. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm missing 3rd as it's always hardest shifting into top gear. So what I'm wondering if that's why it clunks so hard is because it's dropping from 2nd into 4th. Am I stoned and this is only a 3 speed? Or have I somehow lost a gear? If I lost a gear, how the heck can that happen? Thanks! Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Sorry, I should proof my own responses before pressing the send button - I meant always starts out in 2nd. My oldest Son pulled a bass boat behind his 300D for years. He'd always drop down into low to pull his boat of the water never had a problem. More often than not, 2 wheel drive trucks would be spinning a wheel on the same ramp. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? Wow! According to some of the listers, a diesel transmission for an '83 300D: Always starts in FIRST, Always starts in SECOND, Always starts in THIRD. Anybody want to chime in Always starts in FOURTH... YMMV Having owned a 1980 300SD (don't know the trans #'s), it ALWAYS started from a dead stop in SECOND (if the pedal not put to the metal). If I floored it, it ALWAYS started in FIRST and I could count the shifts and monitor them on the speedo with the I, II, III, IV marks.. And when I autocrossed her, I put the trans shifter in S, held the brakes, revved the engine to 2,400 rpms (to spool the turbo), dumped the brakes and WENT FOR IT! Never took the trans out of the S position. RPM's would go to 4,500+ And stayed in SECOND and THIRD, but could reach FIRST by flooring it.I do miss the mistress.. So named because I spent a lot of money on her, a lot of time w/her and liked to crawl under her and screw around. A quote from a former girlfriend. After AXing, she would run a whole lot better... I mean the 300SD!!! Time to go back to reality. Granted my experience is only anecdotal (I laugh at it sometimes, too), but I believe that is how all diesel transmissions were designed. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ Now a total gasser w/ a 1986 190E 2.3 16V and a 1992 500E... On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: It's a 4 speed that starts out in 3rd. The hard 3 - 4 gear shifting is the nature of the transmission. It can be adjusted out but at the expense of loosening up the 2 - 3 shift accelerating transmission wear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? OK, for some reason I was thinking the tranny in my 83' 300D was a 4 speed. It's shifted rather hard since I got it more than a year ago. Then the other day a thought occurred to me and I paid more attention today. Sure enough it seems like I only have (or am using) 3 gears. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm missing 3rd as it's always hardest shifting into top gear. So what I'm wondering if that's why it clunks so hard is because it's dropping from 2nd into 4th. Am I stoned and this is only a 3 speed? Or have I somehow lost a gear? If I lost a gear, how the heck can that happen? Thanks! Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leather seat covers for '96 F-150 Ford extended cab
archer wrote: Does anyone know where I can get leather seat covers for a 1996 Ford F-150 extended cab pickup? Mitch Haley wrote: Does World Upholstery do Fords? Can you get good power leather seats from a Lariat or King Ranch truck on the salvage market? Drop in replacement if you can find them. Not cheap, but probably no worse than a set of quality leather covers. -- Apparently they do. I sent them a request for a price and a sample. He told us he wanted leather seats of a particular color and this will be sort of a surprise, so we better just get him the seat covers. www.leatherseats.com quoted about $650 on their website, so if World Upholstery isn't a lot higher, the price will be okay with his wife who is buying them. Thanks, Gerry
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Tom, BTDT. No problem...!!! Take care, Chuck... On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Sorry, I should proof my own responses before pressing the send button - I meant always starts out in 2nd. My oldest Son pulled a bass boat behind his 300D for years. He'd always drop down into low to pull his boat of the water never had a problem. More often than not, 2 wheel drive trucks would be spinning a wheel on the same ramp. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924
Re: [MBZ] OT E85 Use
All the necks I've seen on any diesel are just a wide open deal. Often when I fill one up I think about how it is relatively unprotected from putting just about anything in there. Reminds me of the filler on my buddy's '56 Ford F100. Brian David wrote: Well, once upon a time there was no such thing as a car diesel pump. My '82 Vanagon had a neck big enough for one of the huge truck nozzles, as did my friend's '80 Dasher.
Re: [MBZ] OT E85 Use
I believe that every diesel nozzle used to be too large to fit in unleaded cars though, at least at the service station I worked at. Of course. All the nozzles once were the same size, except for the high-flow ones for big trucks. Then they made the smaller ones to dispense unleaded into the new cars, which had artificial orifices added to the usual wide-open neck. They can't keep doing that, the things are already borderline too small. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Heat AC failure
The PBCU on that model doesn't suffer from bad solder joints, I don't believe, it's all electronic (no high-current relays on board). Au contraire, mon frere. I have personally repaired bad solder joints in the PB assembly, the ones on the switches themselves in particular can go bad. It's vibration and flexing coupled to mass that does it, not high current. (Relays are heavy, they'd be particularly susceptible too. But you're right, there aren't any. There's one in a 201.) I do now have a non-running AC compressor I need to diagnose, any hints of how to determine if it's the PBCU or the KLIMA relay? http://cathey.dogear.com/mamerepairs.html, and follow the checklist(s). -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
All MB diesels start out in 1st. Most MB gas models start out in 2nd
unless you do the L thing,
Not true. The Albatross ('79 240D) always started in 2nd, unless
either you floored it or selected L while stopped. L, otherwise,
selected 2nd, btw. This was even in the owner's manual.
The 240D. There's a car in desperate need of a first-gear start,
yet it didn't have one. I'm sure they did it to give it that
sedate cushy car feel, 'cause the 1-2 shift was rather firm.
Kept in S around town, the car essentially had a 2-speed tranny,
and only shifted once. Might help explain how that car had 300+kmi
on it and one of the best-feeling transmissions I'd experienced.
-- Jim
Re: [MBZ] I have heat now, WAS: Re: Brrrr! It's Cold and I have no heat
That is the issue in this case. I had heat this morning. I did not the other day. I don't think thermostats are intermittent. They work or they don't. Also, I doubt I have an air bubble because I have not flushed and filled this car since I got it - almost a year now. Intermittent behavior screams either monovalve or an electrical fault. And if the venting is going wrong it's not the monovalve. (Not by itself, anyhow.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
I agree, all of the older MB diesels with auto tranny's I've owned started
out in 2nd.
I can't speak for the newer ones (95 and beyond).
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
All MB diesels start out in 1st. Most MB gas models start out in 2nd
unless you do the L thing,
Not true. The Albatross ('79 240D) always started in 2nd, unless
either you floored it or selected L while stopped. L, otherwise,
selected 2nd, btw. This was even in the owner's manual.
The 240D. There's a car in desperate need of a first-gear start,
yet it didn't have one. I'm sure they did it to give it that
sedate cushy car feel, 'cause the 1-2 shift was rather firm.
Kept in S around town, the car essentially had a 2-speed tranny,
and only shifted once. Might help explain how that car had 300+kmi
on it and one of the best-feeling transmissions I'd experienced.
-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Trans diagnosis: Update
I have taken the TE on several short trips of 40-50 miles, so today I drove it 200+ miles and all is well. I am about to declare that changing the filter fixed it, but I want to make a few more 4-500 mile trips to be sure. Thanks to all who assisted with the diagnosis. Now if I could get the radio and speakers to work right Loren 88 300TE et al At 06:56 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote: Here is the latest: Sun Valley suggested installing a new Mann Trans filter, and fluid. To them this seemed to be a common problem. They said the filter is probably clogged or collapsed, as others on the list suggested. I ordered a couple of Mann filters from Rusty, changed the filter and fluid and have driven the TE on a few short runs. Last night was about 15 miles. So far so good. The jury is still out. I will work up to 200 mile trip, then decide if I trust it. There were no metallic bits in the bottom of the pan. There was fine dark residue that i take to be disk residue. If the filter and fluid had not been changed for a long time, some of this could be leftover from before the previous change. If you order Mann filters, you should also order a gasket and a washer for the drain plug. Note to Rusty and crew: suggestive sell the gasket and washer... and the washer with the Febi filter. Loren 88 300 TE ($eems to be happy $$$) et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Anyone with a 300TE?
I have an 88. I can't advise about anything newer, because it is the newest in the fleet. Its my experimental gasser winter car that has turned into a year-round car. It is a great running car and rivals my SDL in the $ per mile category. I am guessing it gets 22-24 mpg on the road. I've never measured it. I'd part with it for a price New rear $hock$, rebuilt tandem pump, new battery, new coil, new tires. SDL gets maybe a little better mileage, but we are getting ripped for Dissel fool prices, so $ per mile is not great with the SDL, but, it IS an SDL! The 300TE 124 gets better mileage than the 123 230TE we had. Loren 88TE 86SDL 87SDL et al At 10:00 AM 10/16/2006, you wrote: Hello Folks! Does anyone have a 300TE and can share any advice to a shopper for one? Any better years? Any things to watch for? Anyone have one for sale? John Peterson Kingston RI 1991 300D 2.5 81k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Heat AC failure
Thanks Jim. The pushbuttons are a problem, I'd forgotten about them -- need to check them on the TE. The main board inside just has IC's on it, and all the solder looked fine. I'll take a peak at the checklist, I'd really like to be done with the AC in that car -- never has been right (evaporator replaced, still chasing minor leaks). Peter
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Some sit in second gear and then downshift when the accelerator is moved down. If they don't, likely the vacuum modulator signal is incorrect and the valve needs replacing (or the hose fixed, etc). Peter
Re: [MBZ] 124 Trans diagnosis: Update
Clean the fader with contact cleaner -- it gets oxidized and results in goofy operation, with speakers going on and off intermittantly. Peter
[MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve
Ok Its better now we know the car model ! As mentioned earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other faults,which simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced. i had a similar fault with varied a/c symptoms ,all was normal after replacing only the monovalve. (worn diaphragm) mak 300SE/1990 That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990 300SE thanks, les ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Early W123 diesels do not have a vacuum modulator , start in 2nd and will kickdown to first when kickdown soleniod is activated and the hydralics decide its ok to do so. Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2006 07:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? Some sit in second gear and then downshift when the accelerator is moved down. If they don't, likely the vacuum modulator signal is incorrect and the valve needs replacing (or the hose fixed, etc). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Well, I found 4 gears this morning. I think I missed it before because it seems to be about as complicated as this conversation has gotten! (: I tried a few times and I can't quite determine the 'standard' for my car from a dead stop (1st or second). Part of my problem was that I thought that L was 1st, S was 2nd and D was 1-4. It seems L is 1st/2nd which shifts at 20mph. S seems to hold 3rd and D is whatever the hell it feels like. I *think* mine starts out in 1st, but it goes through 2nd to 3rd so fast at slow speeds that I would not have realized it went through 2 gears unless I was listening for it... Levi On 10/18/06, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Early W123 diesels do not have a vacuum modulator , start in 2nd and will kickdown to first when kickdown soleniod is activated and the hydralics decide its ok to do so. Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2006 07:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? Some sit in second gear and then downshift when the accelerator is moved down. If they don't, likely the vacuum modulator signal is incorrect and the valve needs replacing (or the hose fixed, etc). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Well I don't believe that is true-I know my 240D starts out in second and the kick down works as described earlier-you have to kick down. This was a topic a few years ago and the good Dr. explained which models started in 2nd. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? All MB diesels start out in 1st. Most MB gas models start out in 2nd unless you do the L thing,
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Levi Smith wrote: *think* mine starts out in 1st, but it goes through 2nd to 3rd so fast at slow speeds that I would not have realized it went through 2 gears unless I was listening for it... My '79 300SD quick shifts through 2nd unless I have it floored or let it start in 2nd. (like Chuck's old car, the circuitry that tells it to sit in 2nd at a stop and drop to first when I touch the throttle is busted, so I have to use L if I want first, but then when I move to S or D, it skips right past 2nd).
Re: [MBZ] I have heat now, WAS: Re: Brrrr! It's Cold and I have no heat
Thermostats can be somewhat intermittent. The one that came in my 83' 300D *kinda* worked. It didn't keep the car up to the temp it should be, but put it in a pot of water and it sure looked like it was working correctly. But then further looking revealed that it was not quite closing as fully or as quickly as it should have. Either way, it's easy enough to tell if it's the thermostat, just look at your temp gauge. Levi On 10/17/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew and Lee wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: No heat may also mean a broken thermostat. It could also mean that the last time he drained and filled the radiator he got an air bubble in the heater core and it needs to be burped. That is the issue in this case. I had heat this morning. I did not the other day. I don't think thermostats are intermittent. They work or they don't. Also, I doubt I have an air bubble because I have not flushed and filled this car since I got it - almost a year now. I guess if I don't have heat tomorrow, I will look for an exorcist. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 132K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone with a 300TE?
Hello Folks! Does anyone have a 300TE and can share any advice to a shopper for one? Any better years? Any things to watch for? Anyone have one for sale? Yesterday I drove past a for-sale 124 wagon, and stopped for a quick peek. A '90 300 TE, they're asking $5500. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] I have heat now, WAS: Re: Brrrr! It's Cold and I have no heat
I drove the carpool one entire frigid winter with a broken thermostat in the 83 300TD. There was nothing intermittent about the complete LACK of heat that my riders and I had to endure... On 10/18/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thermostats can be somewhat intermittent. The one that came in my 83' 300D *kinda* worked. It didn't keep the car up to the temp it should be, but put it in a pot of water and it sure looked like it was working correctly. But then further looking revealed that it was not quite closing as fully or as quickly as it should have. Either way, it's easy enough to tell if it's the thermostat, just look at your temp gauge. Levi On 10/17/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew and Lee wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: No heat may also mean a broken thermostat. It could also mean that the last time he drained and filled the radiator he got an air bubble in the heater core and it needs to be burped. That is the issue in this case. I had heat this morning. I did not the other day. I don't think thermostats are intermittent. They work or they don't. Also, I doubt I have an air bubble because I have not flushed and filled this car since I got it - almost a year now. I guess if I don't have heat tomorrow, I will look for an exorcist. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 132K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Should not do so, maybe the a/t cable is a bit stretched out and needs to readjust. it worked on mine mak 300se/90 Levi Smith wrote: *think* mine starts out in 1st, but it goes through 2nd to 3rd so fast at slow speeds that I would not have realized it went through 2 gears unless I was listening for it...
Re: [MBZ] I have heat now, WAS: Re: Brrrr! It's Cold and I have no heat
Just didn't feel like changing it? Mine warmed up, but never as fully as it should have been, It would also noticeabley drop in temperature at times. On 10/18/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I drove the carpool one entire frigid winter with a broken thermostat in the 83 300TD. There was nothing intermittent about the complete LACK of heat that my riders and I had to endure... On 10/18/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thermostats can be somewhat intermittent. The one that came in my 83' 300D *kinda* worked. It didn't keep the car up to the temp it should be, but put it in a pot of water and it sure looked like it was working correctly. But then further looking revealed that it was not quite closing as fully or as quickly as it should have. Either way, it's easy enough to tell if it's the thermostat, just look at your temp gauge. Levi On 10/17/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew and Lee wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: No heat may also mean a broken thermostat. It could also mean that the last time he drained and filled the radiator he got an air bubble in the heater core and it needs to be burped. That is the issue in this case. I had heat this morning. I did not the other day. I don't think thermostats are intermittent. They work or they don't. Also, I doubt I have an air bubble because I have not flushed and filled this car since I got it - almost a year now. I guess if I don't have heat tomorrow, I will look for an exorcist. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 132K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
the 83 300D should start in first, if it starts in 2nd, something is wrong. Tom Hargrave wrote: Sorry, I should proof my own responses before pressing the send button - I meant always starts out in 2nd. My oldest Son pulled a bass boat behind his 300D for years. He'd always drop down into low to pull his boat of the water never had a problem. More often than not, 2 wheel drive trucks would be spinning a wheel on the same ramp. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve
A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing when installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to stay in one position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it won't seal correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer), and it will leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve to stick even more and eventually fail. This can cook some PBCUs. Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or so. Ditto for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly under load in the winter, replace the thermostat. Cheap, fairly easy, make a huge difference. Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it. I've been stuck by a train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I froze... Peter -Original Message- From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve Ok Its better now we know the car model ! As mentioned earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other faults,which simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced. i had a similar fault with varied a/c symptoms ,all was normal after replacing only the monovalve. (worn diaphragm) mak 300SE/1990 That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990 300SE thanks, les ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve
$30?? I think not! Best price on a monovalve has climbed into the mid $40s as of last month. On 10/18/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing when installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to stay in one position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it won't seal correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer), and it will leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve to stick even more and eventually fail. This can cook some PBCUs. Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or so. Ditto for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly under load in the winter, replace the thermostat. Cheap, fairly easy, make a huge difference. Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it. I've been stuck by a train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I froze... Peter -Original Message- From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve Ok Its better now we know the car model ! As mentioned earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other faults,which simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced. i had a similar fault with varied a/c symptoms ,all was normal after replacing only the monovalve. (worn diaphragm) mak 300SE/1990 That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990 300SE thanks, les ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve
Nope. AutohausAZ, the Bosch whores of America, have them for $35.91 which is exactly $7.60 below my cost. These guys are idiots. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:47 AM To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve $30?? I think not! Best price on a monovalve has climbed into the mid $40s as of last month. On 10/18/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing when installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to stay in one position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it won't seal correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer), and it will leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve to stick even more and eventually fail. This can cook some PBCUs. Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or so. Ditto for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly under load in the winter, replace the thermostat. Cheap, fairly easy, make a huge difference. Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it. I've been stuck by a train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I froze... Peter -Original Message- From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve Ok Its better now we know the car model ! As mentioned earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other faults,which simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced. i had a similar fault with varied a/c symptoms ,all was normal after replacing only the monovalve. (worn diaphragm) mak 300SE/1990 That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990 300SE thanks, les ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone with a 300TE?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 06:05:02AM -0700, Jim Cathey wrote: Hello Folks! Does anyone have a 300TE and can share any advice to a shopper for one? Any better years? Any things to watch for? Anyone have one for sale? Yesterday I drove past a for-sale 124 wagon, and stopped for a quick peek. A '90 300 TE, they're asking $5500. FWIW, there's a 92 300TE and a 94 E320 wagon for sale that I noticed in the classifieds last night. Think each was for $4900. It isn't biodiesel, so nobody around here seems interested. Both seemed like very well kept examples. K
Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve
Nope. AutohausAZ, the Bosch whores of America, have them for $35.91 which is exactly $7.60 below my cost. These guys are idiots. How can they stay in business losing money? Perhaps they are in the money laundering business with parts as a sideline.? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
[MBZ] RustyQ 2006
We're getting closer and closer to the big day. October 28th is just around the corner. Barbeque pork and chicken, yummy baked beans, macaroni casserole, cole slaw, cookies, beer, wine and soft drinks. The best part is it's all FREE. Bring your cars, your wives, your girlfriends, your mother in law, your pets, anybody. From 12:00 noon till 5:00PM. The 7th annual BuyMBparts RustyQ is the place for anyone that owns a Benz to be. Please call 1-800-741-5252 to make reservations so the food doesn't run out! Here is a list of known attendees: Bill Converse Linda Tibcken Sandy Steadman Alan Grimes Kaleb Striplin Daryl Swain Ken Ashbaugh Matthew Hills Regina Striplin Matthew Patterson John Mcaa Eva Hills Chris Kueny Ben Converse Fred Weprich David Woods Colin Kueny Robbi Converse Darlene Weprich Jaime Kopchinski Bill Ricker Ron Frazier David White Chip Lamb Keith Converse Laura Frazier Theresa White Rusty Cullens Jay Tutt Mitch Marmel Teri Cullens Kay Tutt Tom Savage Jane Mills Pete Manchee John Whitlock Jack Mills Tess Manchee Joel Suttles Gary Hurst Jim Ellington Gene Baldwin Tom Benedikt Bo Cullens Dana Beardon Sue Benedikt Aline Cullens Leland Hicks Drew Tibcken Dan Steadman Reg Grimes When: October 28th 2006 12:00PM to 5:00PM Where: http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm Why: To just get together and look at all the neat cars and people!
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006
But not your wife and your girlfriend. --R Rusty wrote: We're getting closer and closer to the big day. October 28th is just around the corner. Barbeque pork and chicken, yummy baked beans, macaroni casserole, cole slaw, cookies, beer, wine and soft drinks. The best part is it's all FREE. Bring your cars, your wives, your girlfriends, your mother in law, your pets, anybody. From 12:00 noon till 5:00PM. The 7th annual BuyMBparts RustyQ is the place for anyone that owns a Benz to be. Please call 1-800-741-5252 to make reservations so the food doesn't run out! Here is a list of known attendees: Bill Converse Linda Tibcken Sandy Steadman Alan Grimes Kaleb Striplin Daryl Swain Ken Ashbaugh Matthew Hills Regina Striplin Matthew Patterson John Mcaa Eva Hills Chris Kueny Ben Converse Fred Weprich David Woods Colin Kueny Robbi Converse Darlene Weprich Jaime Kopchinski Bill Ricker Ron Frazier David White Chip Lamb Keith Converse Laura Frazier Theresa White Rusty Cullens Jay Tutt Mitch Marmel Teri Cullens Kay Tutt Tom Savage Jane Mills Pete Manchee John Whitlock Jack Mills Tess Manchee Joel Suttles Gary Hurst Jim Ellington Gene Baldwin Tom Benedikt Bo Cullens Dana Beardon Sue Benedikt Aline Cullens Leland Hicks Drew Tibcken Dan Steadman Reg Grimes When: October 28th 2006 12:00PM to 5:00PM Where: http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm Why: To just get together and look at all the neat cars and people! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cold(er) weather starting issues?
My old 115 300D was not happy about starting last evening. It is near 0 C here so about 32 F. It has been raining, blowing, and sometimes snowing a little here for the past week or more - a miserable October compared to last year when it was quite nice. We are way below normal temperatures. In any event, I had not run the car for a few days and it was sitting on the street in front of my house. I tried to start it last night and it would not go. It fired on a couple of cylinders but would not catch and run. The battery is obviously good as I cranked and cranked but it just did not want to catch. I stopped and tried again several times and on each of the subsequent tries the glow plug light only stayed on for a few seconds as opposed to the usual time. I ultimately pulled out the block heater cord and plugged it in for an hour and it then started like it was summer time. So, my question to those of you more experienced with these sorts of things, is, do I have some bad glow plugs or??? I got most of a set ( a long story) of new glow plugs from Rusty but have not changed any at this time. It seemed odd to me that it sounded like only a couple of cylinders were trying to catch. I am no expert on diesels but I would say the car ran fine all summer and it did not seem to lack in power etc once I got it running last night. I also wondered about valve adjustment etc. I have been negligent in the sense that I have gathered the stuff to do the valves (tools and gasket) but have yet to actually get to it. What else would cause it to be unhappy about starting? I should think one could count on it to start in colder weather than that. I don't drive it in the winter so I never tried to start it in cold weather last year. Randy
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006
That depends upon how well they get along. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 But not your wife and your girlfriend. --R
Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve
Well we know where you will be buying yours from... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:54 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve Nope. AutohausAZ, the Bosch whores of America, have them for $35.91 which is exactly $7.60 below my cost. These guys are idiots. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:47 AM To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve $30?? I think not! Best price on a monovalve has climbed into the mid $40s as of last month. On 10/18/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing when installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to stay in one position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it won't seal correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer), and it will leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve to stick even more and eventually fail. This can cook some PBCUs. Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or so. Ditto for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly under load in the winter, replace the thermostat. Cheap, fairly easy, make a huge difference. Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it. I've been stuck by a train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I froze... Peter -Original Message- From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve Ok Its better now we know the car model ! As mentioned earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other faults,which simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced. i had a similar fault with varied a/c symptoms ,all was normal after replacing only the monovalve. (worn diaphragm) mak 300SE/1990 That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990 300SE thanks, les ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006
Sure, lots of folks do that, it's really fun. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006 But not your wife and your girlfriend. --R Rusty wrote: We're getting closer and closer to the big day. October 28th is just around the corner. Barbeque pork and chicken, yummy baked beans, macaroni casserole, cole slaw, cookies, beer, wine and soft drinks. The best part is it's all FREE. Bring your cars, your wives, your girlfriends, your mother in law, your pets, anybody. From 12:00 noon till 5:00PM. The 7th annual BuyMBparts RustyQ is the place for anyone that owns a Benz to be. Please call 1-800-741-5252 to make reservations so the food doesn't run out! Here is a list of known attendees: Bill Converse Linda Tibcken Sandy Steadman Alan Grimes Kaleb Striplin Daryl Swain Ken Ashbaugh Matthew Hills Regina Striplin Matthew Patterson John Mcaa Eva Hills Chris Kueny Ben Converse Fred Weprich David Woods Colin Kueny Robbi Converse Darlene Weprich Jaime Kopchinski Bill Ricker Ron Frazier David White Chip Lamb Keith Converse Laura Frazier Theresa White Rusty Cullens Jay Tutt Mitch Marmel Teri Cullens Kay Tutt Tom Savage Jane Mills Pete Manchee John Whitlock Jack Mills Tess Manchee Joel Suttles Gary Hurst Jim Ellington Gene Baldwin Tom Benedikt Bo Cullens Dana Beardon Sue Benedikt Aline Cullens Leland Hicks Drew Tibcken Dan Steadman Reg Grimes When: October 28th 2006 12:00PM to 5:00PM Where: http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm Why: To just get together and look at all the neat cars and people! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid . It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts
Re: [MBZ] cold(er) weather starting issues?
Randy, My first thought was gelled fuel but if it started with a warm block thats probably not it. My 240D would start at pretty much any temp down to freezing even without glowplugs, it wasn't happy about it, it'd need to crank for longer than I liked and it'd belch black smoke when it started but it did start... So yeah, maybe its time to replace glowplugs and adjust the valves. Give it a shot of isopropyl alcohol to sequester any water in the tank and maybe a shot of anti-gel just in case. Probably also a good time for new fuel filters and at least check the airfilter too... -Curt - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 18 21:53:52 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GaJMG-0007a6-8x for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:53:52 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-181-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.181.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id 20061018215336m15009h8a4e; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:53:37 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:53:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:53:52 - That's called a loss leader - something cheaper than anyone else (because no one else wants to lose money) but will pull new customers in and while they;re there they will buy stuff with a normal markup. It's usually a common replacement part but not too expensive. Grocery stores are famous for doing that. Lose money on one item that's popular and make it up on the other stuff bought - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve Nope. AutohausAZ, the Bosch whores of America, have them for $35.91 which is exactly $7.60 below my cost. These guys are idiots. How can they stay in business losing money? Perhaps they are in the money laundering business with parts as a sideline.? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006
I see since toad dropped out chippie and jaime are showing up. Hopefull you have my room ready? Rusty wrote: We're getting closer and closer to the big day. October 28th is just around the corner. Barbeque pork and chicken, yummy baked beans, macaroni casserole, cole slaw, cookies, beer, wine and soft drinks. The best part is it's all FREE. Bring your cars, your wives, your girlfriends, your mother in law, your pets, anybody. From 12:00 noon till 5:00PM. The 7th annual BuyMBparts RustyQ is the place for anyone that owns a Benz to be. Please call 1-800-741-5252 to make reservations so the food doesn't run out! Here is a list of known attendees: Bill Converse Linda Tibcken Sandy Steadman Alan Grimes Kaleb Striplin Daryl Swain Ken Ashbaugh Matthew Hills Regina Striplin Matthew Patterson John Mcaa Eva Hills Chris Kueny Ben Converse Fred Weprich David Woods Colin Kueny Robbi Converse Darlene Weprich Jaime Kopchinski Bill Ricker Ron Frazier David White Chip Lamb Keith Converse Laura Frazier Theresa White Rusty Cullens Jay Tutt Mitch Marmel Teri Cullens Kay Tutt Tom Savage Jane Mills Pete Manchee John Whitlock Jack Mills Tess Manchee Joel Suttles Gary Hurst Jim Ellington Gene Baldwin Tom Benedikt Bo Cullens Dana Beardon Sue Benedikt Aline Cullens Leland Hicks Drew Tibcken Dan Steadman Reg Grimes When: October 28th 2006 12:00PM to 5:00PM Where: http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm Why: To just get together and look at all the neat cars and people! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Have you - or did you - change the ATF during those 30k miles? We see it in engines often - even brand new engines from Mercedes, Ferrari Porsche - have high levels of contaminants from the assembly and production of the engines. I always suggest people with new cars change their oil between 3000 and 5000 regardless of what the Owners Manual or dealer says. We've tested the oil and it always has high levels until that first test - but afterward the levels return to normal. I have no idea who does Rusty's tranny rebuilds but I doubt their assembly rooms are cleaner than the MB assembly rooms - and all it takes is a little junk to get into the valve body and cause odd behaviour. Of course, it may be something else entirely. From the systems I would think one or more valves has stuck - as you suggest. In any case, changing the ATF at this point would be the least expensive thing possible to try. YMMV - Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: BIll Phelps [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid . It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006
Re: [MBZ] cold(er) weather starting issues?
Thanks for input. The air filter is new. The fuel filter should be changed out. I bought some but have not put one in yet. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:01 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold(er) weather starting issues? Randy, My first thought was gelled fuel but if it started with a warm block thats probably not it. My 240D would start at pretty much any temp down to freezing even without glowplugs, it wasn't happy about it, it'd need to crank for longer than I liked and it'd belch black smoke when it started but it did start... So yeah, maybe its time to replace glowplugs and adjust the valves. Give it a shot of isopropyl alcohol to sequester any water in the tank and maybe a shot of anti-gel just in case. Probably also a good time for new fuel filters and at least check the airfilter too... -Curt
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
Then you have not had a really old one. My 115 only has 3 gears so far as I know and it starts out in 1st. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:03 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? I agree, all of the older MB diesels with auto tranny's I've owned started out in 2nd. I can't speak for the newer ones (95 and beyond). Thanks, Tom Hargrave
Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?
115's are 4 speeds, they start in 2nd. You have to push pedal down all the way and hit the kickdown to go into first, or manually shift it there. R A Bennell wrote: Then you have not had a really old one. My 115 only has 3 gears so far as I know and it starts out in 1st. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:03 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? I agree, all of the older MB diesels with auto tranny's I've owned started out in 2nd. I can't speak for the newer ones (95 and beyond). Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
