Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running
Rich Thomas wrote: Ideas? Oh, I almost forgot -- how many gears does this tranny have? 3, or 13, or something like that. If the car has been sitting, the injectors are probably spitting instead of atomizing. The cheapest possible cure I can think of is a bottle of Chevron Tecron and an Italian Tune-up.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Zedic bound for the UK
Jeff Zedic wrote: I'll probably still be on the list thougheven if it's just to gloat over having REAL cars over there!! 2.3-16v are a dime a dozen in UK. EVO I seem to cost about what a same condition 16v costs here. I think you can get a decent EVO II for around £10k, it should hold up longer than Jeremy Clarkson's Maserati. For those who don't know what a wonderful Merak Jeremy bought with £7,000 of Top Gear's money, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKsOit11NOk Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
This is like a pis ... er, a urinating contest between two guys with prostate problems. Lighten up, folks! Belongs on Banned, not Mercedes. D. -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running
That is exactly what I told him to do first, fill with some good premium, pour in a bottle of Techron, and drive it hard and fast. He bought me lunch for that advice! I did not detect the 6-7 shift though, maybe I did not go fast enough. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Ideas? Oh, I almost forgot -- how many gears does this tranny have? 3, or 13, or something like that. If the car has been sitting, the injectors are probably spitting instead of atomizing. The cheapest possible cure I can think of is a bottle of Chevron Tecron and an Italian Tune-up.
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
They should ask their Mobil 1 or Amsoil distributor about Flomax! Err, wait... --R LT Don wrote: This is like a pis ... er, a urinating contest between two guys with prostate problems. Lighten up, folks! Belongs on Banned, not Mercedes. D.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Zedic bound for the UK
I have a 2nd cousin of my father living down on the southern end of the UK. Nice guy and sneaks a car-load of French wine across the pond once a year. EMail me off-list if you are interested (he is like about late 70s or early 80s!) and I will hook you up with contact info. Portsmouth perhaps? I've met the guy. He is like a retired successful businessman who is still living in the University frat house. I think you two would hit it off and down a pint or two (or three, or four, or ...). D. On 10/24/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, I will think of guys like you any time I'm feeling bad about missing my train to Paris and having to wait 30 minutes for the next one. Was on the phone today for two hours to my girlfiend there...we can't wait to start exploring all the short hop trips there! Ahhh, freedom! I'll probably still be on the list thougheven if it's just to gloat over having REAL cars over there!! Jeff Zedic Toronto/London/Belfast/Paris/Venice/Stuttgart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
Dude...you need to chill. I can't remember anyone recently how has caused so much discord. You have no idea how this list operates. You need to pull your fingers away from the keyboard, sit back, watch how we operate, then start sharing your knowledge in the same way we do. I think, if we check, Michael is somehow related to Stu or George. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 161K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick Glad that you've been ordained to speak for the list - perhaps all further list emails should be sent directly to you. There are actually plenty of people of who agree with me on this list, some have even gone so far as to tell me as much off-list. On a serious note, which part of that that response did you find so offensive that you smashed your keyboard and broke the Caps Lock key? I really didn't think that anything I wrote would be considered as insulting as you make it out to be. Mike On 10/24/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LISTEN HERE, I WAS NEUTRAL IN THIS MESS UNTIL NOW. YOU WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE WRONG BY EVERYONE ON THE LIST UNTIL YOU PROVIDE PROOF DIRECTLY FROM MERCEDES THAT PROVES YOUR POINT. THANK YOU, DRIVE THROUGH. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car Quoting Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So its okay for you to insult my personality, but not for me to respond regarding your intelligence? Interesting, especially given the correlation between the two that you brought up. Which, I'm sure, is based on scientific fact. I've been wrong many many many times in my life. I freely admit that. What I can't stand is people telling me I'm wrong, when I am in fact right. Especially when they can't and don't back it up with anything substantial, and even more so when they back it up by taking parts out of context and argueing against them or just saying I'm wrong and backing it up with proof that I'm right. People skills? Enemies? This is internet, where those things matter about a much as logic and intelligence. I practice the latter, some people practice the former, everyone wins and everyone loses. If you don't like what I'm saying, you can choose to ignore it or use your email client to filter it. But if you jump into the coversation, I will reply. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Zedic bound for the UK
Sweet... Bob - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Zedic bound for the UK Bob, I will think of guys like you any time I'm feeling bad about missing my train to Paris and having to wait 30 minutes for the next one. Was on the phone today for two hours to my girlfiend there...we can't wait to start exploring all the short hop trips there! Ahhh, freedom! I'll probably still be on the list thougheven if it's just to gloat over having REAL cars over there!! Jeff Zedic Toronto/London/Belfast/Paris/Venice/Stuttgart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
Luther's pretty cool for a late twenty-something guy who shaves his head. He is the same age as my youngest biological child. On the other hand, he did bring me a primo bottle of Scotch (I had only one Navy ration) at the last OkieQ. ***-- (The above wacky stuff was brought to you by my cat, Dawg -- he hit the keyboard mid head-butt w/ me.) And in Luther's defense, at his age I was only flying off in a aircraft on USCG rescues (go see The Guardian! - I found only three tech flaws in the entire movie). He, on the other hand, is getting stuff to your door. You might just have to thank Luther for the stuff you buy at the grocery store. D. On 10/24/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should ask their Mobil 1 or Amsoil distributor about Flomax! Err, wait... --R LT Don wrote: This is like a pis ... er, a urinating contest between two guys with prostate problems. Lighten up, folks! Belongs on Banned, not Mercedes. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running
All German cars are like that, my old Audi Fox did it too. Man, I miss that car! Rusted away, still ran great but there were holes everywhere... Peter
Re: [MBZ] Was: Kettle, pot, black -Now: Qualifications
I'm qualified to serve as a bad example..Otherwise I have 25 years of fixing this and that kind of cars, several of them in shops, even owned my own shop for 2 years.Never do that again. Mike - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] Was: Kettle, pot, black -Now: Qualifications So Curt, what are YOUR qualifications? And on a more serious but hopefully less tempremental subject, what are the qualifications of the other people on this list? On 10/24/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to tell us your qualifications. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
the thing that most impresses me about movies in recent times is how much effort is put into getting the details right. when you watch, say, an old john wayne war movie, you see clearly that this is like a play and it is not like the fight really was. when i watched films such as saving private ryan and we were soldiers for the first time, i was blown away by oh, man, this could be what it really looked like On 10/24/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther's pretty cool for a late twenty-something guy who shaves his head. He is the same age as my youngest biological child. On the other hand, he did bring me a primo bottle of Scotch (I had only one Navy ration) at the last OkieQ. ***-- (The above wacky stuff was brought to you by my cat, Dawg -- he hit the keyboard mid head-butt w/ me.) And in Luther's defense, at his age I was only flying off in a aircraft on USCG rescues (go see The Guardian! - I found only three tech flaws in the entire movie). He, on the other hand, is getting stuff to your door. You might just have to thank Luther for the stuff you buy at the grocery store. D. On 10/24/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should ask their Mobil 1 or Amsoil distributor about Flomax! Err, wait... --R LT Don wrote: This is like a pis ... er, a urinating contest between two guys with prostate problems. Lighten up, folks! Belongs on Banned, not Mercedes. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300TD Blower Motor
Well I fixed the blower motor with new brushes, filed down to the right size. I got them from my local Northwestern Auto And Mill supply house. And the nicest part was he gave them to me. Well there was a slight catchI have been looking for a good medium size vice for my workshop and he happened to have an excellent, made in the USA, unbreakable one. That was $125.00. I will let you know if either item break in the near future. Mike - Original Message - From: Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300TD Blower Motor Message: 17 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:11:27 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300TD Blower Motor To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MICHAEL ESH wrote: Is this a brush problem and can I order just the brushes? Sounds like bad brush contact or a busted winding. If the shaft is sliding when you change orientation an unworn part of the commutator could make contact with the worn brushes and make it run intermittently. A lister had some brushes made a few years ago, I don't know if he'd have any left and I can't remember who he was. (was it Jaime?) You can buy appliance brushes at your local Ace Hardware and whittle them down to fit. They wont last as long as the original ones or I have heard that ones for a Volvo, p/n 1362710, will work. Somebody give them a try and report back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new sig line
Only one more for an even half dozen! On 10/24/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn, it's addicting. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] TOTALLY OT: need lame Saab stuff
A slight exaggeration - I remember them being as fast as a 1200cc bug. I think the flat rate for a complete engine overhaul, including RR, was eight hours. ( could be wrong - this was 35 years ago). On 10/24/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 35mph in 4th? Sheesh, was this the 40's? :) Maybe those were Imperial miles per hour? :-) -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running
That's the first thing to try. My '78 started to run rough at idle, then progressed to rough all the time, then it quit starting all together.Turned out to be a combination of lots of loose and/or dried out parts. The rubber seals around the injectors were rock hard, shrunken, and had to be leaking. Finger loose intake manifold bolts on one head didn't help any either. I won't EVEN address the 3 gears in the tranny though - On 10/24/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is exactly what I told him to do first, fill with some good premium, pour in a bottle of Techron, and drive it hard and fast. He bought me lunch for that advice! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
haha, what a dummy. kevin kraly wrote: I was going to buy this old car to swap the engine into the 1973 220D that I had. The guy wanted $500 for it and wouldn't go down to $300. Today, I spotted it on CL once again, but now he only wants $75! If he would have only taken my first offer, he could have gotten nearly 7 times his current asking price! He's probably forgotten by now anyway. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D For Sale
but it goes forward? hm, I just happen to be going over that way later this week. H, sent pictures. But crap, Im broke I think. Alan Duff wrote: I've got a '82 240D with no reverse. Have tightened the band but still doesn't work. Showing 151,285 miles but suspect higher. Black with decent paint but drivers fender and door look to be repainted. Manual windows. Runs great in forward gears. Would like to get $500 but will consider any offer. Located in Knoxville, TN. Email if interested and I can send pics and more info. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D For Sale
Darn, you gave me that car last year, Im slow. I need to get with Alan on the way back from your place. Assuming his car will drive foward at least. Rusty wrote: Man, why didn't you post this last week? I have a 240D Black parts car with sunroof for sale for $500.00. It has a brand new 4 speed transmission and clutch. It has all new suspension and shocks. These cars were meant for each other. I just gave it to Kaleb to pick up at the RustyQ. Darn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Duff Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1982 240D For Sale I've got a '82 240D with no reverse. Have tightened the band but still doesn't work. Showing 151,285 miles but suspect higher. Black with decent paint but drivers fender and door look to be repainted. Manual windows. Runs great in forward gears. Would like to get $500 but will consider any offer. Located in Knoxville, TN. Email if interested and I can send pics and more info. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running
RPMs, but that 1-2 shift chirped the tires when I stomped it! No way ours will do that. But it's a '76 smog-boxer. Ideas? Oh, I almost forgot -- how many gears does this tranny have? Ought to be three. But I'm no expert. Count the orange pips on the speedometer, should only be two of them at the redline shift points. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] loop style glow plug retrofit options?
You just need the plugs, not the whole kit. Get the four plugs from Rusty, replace the toaster-wires with real wires (thick ones), and disconnect the ground wire at the first glow plug. The old relay works just fine. What he said. Electrically, I should be able to just daisy chain the wires from one plug to the next, but that's probably less than optimum. Any idea where I might source some nice, pre-crimped, stranded cables? If solid was good enough for the toaster racks, why not just get some nice 10ga or 12ga solid household wire from Home Despot? -- Jim
[MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state
I thought this conversation would have ended by now. Mike and I have conversed offlist and everything is fine. When I posted about personal attacks not be tolerated before, that was not aimed only at Mike attacking other people, that would also include people attacking Mike. If one more such post is made, all posts to the list will require approval before they are allowed thru. Sorry it came to this, hopefully it ends now. Now lets get back to talking about oil, glow plugs, and heading to the RustyQ. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 190 gears
tried to really pay attention today, at 55mph in 4th I'm at about 2600-2700. I tried today, and at 55 in 4th I'm right about 2500. 60 mph was about 2650. Of course, speedos and tachos do vary. On the way home it was more like 52 mph at 2500 rpm, go figure. In the Frankenheap (200D 115) I'm running around town in 4th all the time. In the 190D, make that third. More or less the same ground speed. In fact, the 200D lugs down to about 25 mph in fourth before you _have_ to shift, of course you should have long before that. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state
Now lets get back to talking about oil, glow plugs, and heading to the RustyQ. Somebody needs to let Chuck L. and anybody else who quit the list know Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] Was: Kettle, pot, black -Now: Qualifications
- Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] And on a more serious but hopefully less tempremental subject, what are the qualifications of the other people on this list? That might be interesting. Any PHDs, engineers, physicists, chemists, physicians, inventors, Mensa members, etc. on this list? Gerry
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state
He is the only one that took his ball and went home. I like chuck, be he seems to be a little overboard on this one. Rick Knoble wrote: Now lets get back to talking about oil, glow plugs, and heading to the RustyQ. Somebody needs to let Chuck L. and anybody else who quit the list know Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] loop style glow plug retrofit options?
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:56:17 -0400 Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in my day we would have hooked up a push button. Then told him push the button in, count to 10 then start. Get the pencil plugs installed, wire them all in parallel, and connect them to one side of a Ford-style starting relay. Connect the other side through a 70A fuse to the battery. Connect one side of the relay's coil to the battery and the other to a pushbutton inside the passenger compartment which is then connected to ground. Push the button in, count to 10 (or 30 or 60 if it's cold) and crank it over. After the engine is turning, you can push the button in again for custom post-start glowing to smooth out the running and reduce emissions. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Was: Kettle, pot, black -Now: Qualifications
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:56:50 -0400 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] And on a more serious but hopefully less tempremental subject, what are the qualifications of the other people on this list? That might be interesting. Any PHDs, engineers, physicists, chemists, physicians, inventors, Mensa members, etc. on this list? Yes. Ph.D. in physics. Craig Los Alamos, NM
Re: [MBZ] Was: Kettle, pot, black -Now: Qualifications
PhD in Plant Physiology, working as a chemist. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
Tell him you will pay him $50 and to STFU On Oct 24, 2006, at 12:49 PM, kevin kraly wrote: I was going to buy this old car to swap the engine into the 1973 220D that I had. The guy wanted $500 for it and wouldn't go down to $300. Today, I spotted it on CL once again, but now he only wants $75! If he would have only taken my first offer, he could have gotten nearly 7 times his current asking price! He's probably forgotten by now anyway. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 1968 200D
Love to. Where am I going? On Oct 24, 2006, at 2:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone live near Everett WA and can inspect a 200D for me? Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
No, we do not haul groceries. But you can thank me for the news paper inserts, paper for the news papers, and car parts for nearly every Toyota, Nissan, Honda, and GM car made in Tenn, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Detroit, Canada, Alabama, and Ohio. Most all of your friendly local auto parts stores get a portion of their freight on our trucks. Drink any heavy liqueur made in Canada? We haul that too. Only pisses off the drunks if we're late. :) On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:29:16 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther's pretty cool for a late twenty-something guy who shaves his head. He is the same age as my youngest biological child. On the other hand, he did bring me a primo bottle of Scotch (I had only one Navy ration) at the last OkieQ. ***-- (The above wacky stuff was brought to you by my cat, Dawg -- he hit the keyboard mid head-butt w/ me.) And in Luther's defense, at his age I was only flying off in a aircraft on USCG rescues (go see The Guardian! - I found only three tech flaws in the entire movie). He, on the other hand, is getting stuff to your door. You might just have to thank Luther for the stuff you buy at the grocery store. D. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] 1968 200d
Thought I said I would On Oct 24, 2006, at 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone live in Everett WA who could look at a car for me? Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 190 gears
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 07:22:08PM -0700, Jim Cathey wrote: tried to really pay attention today, at 55mph in 4th I'm at about 2600-2700. I tried today, and at 55 in 4th I'm right about 2500. 60 mph was about 2650. Of course, speedos and tachos do vary. On the way home it was more like 52 mph at 2500 rpm, go figure. In the Frankenheap (200D 115) I'm running around town in 4th all the time. In the 190D, make that third. More or less the same ground speed. In fact, the 200D lugs down to about 25 mph in fourth before you _have_ to shift, of course you should have long before that. My memories of my 5 speed 190D are a bit distant, but fourth at 55 didn't seem all that outlandish. The 60x are a seemingly less torquey, higher revving (but more efficient) version of the 61x. I put up with it, and enjoyed the 40+mpg doing 80 in fifth, knowing that unlike in a honda, I'd most likely survive a wreck. If it was me, I'd either speed up, or not worry about it. 61x's likely had longer strokes meaning more low end torque, but lacking Marshall, who knows. K
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 10:28:06PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: He is the only one that took his ball and went home. I like chuck, be he seems to be a little overboard on this one. Not necessarily, this has gotten a teense out of hand. This is the mercedes list, not the saab list, or the b!tch about everything that sucks list. We don't want more resources unsubbing and headed to MBCA or the hitler list, do we? K
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
Tell him you will pay him $50 and to STFU STFU? I've never heard that one before. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
[MBZ] 240D glow plug conversion
I changed my loop glow plugs over to later pencil type; 1979 , just remove all the insulators the Squiggly resistance wire??? put plugs in hook wires on plugs; i had to have the Large plugs; later heads use the smaller ones, like later cars; didn't change the relay or anything else; Bosch had a kit with 4 glow plugs the wires with crimped eyelets? already on them, think at least 10 guage, heavy wire; also this cut the glow time in 1/2 or more; still working after about 10 years?? Steve
Re: [MBZ] Final warning before Kaleb cracks a mental
Oooh I like the sound of that one, where do I find it? Seriously, it was looking pretty immature for a while there. Sounded like some drunks in a bar just before closing time. It is usally a good idea if you are not sure wether to send a message to let it sit overnight and look at it in the morning, I have learned this reasonably well but sometimes still send stuff that I later think could have been worded better. Hendrik who is thinking about buying Probst's book on Bosch fuel injection.just so I am an expert and no one can tell me otherwise:-) - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN,Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state or the b!tch about everything that sucks list.
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
STFU = shut the up. On 10/25/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell him you will pay him $50 and to STFU STFU? I've never heard that one before. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
Gary Hurst wrote: the thing that most impresses me about movies in recent times is how much effort is put into getting the details right. when you watch, say, an old john wayne war movie, you see clearly that this is like a play and it is not like the fight really was. when i watched films such as saving private ryan and we were soldiers for the first time, i was blown away by oh, man, this could be what it really looked like OTOH, there is Gladiator, where the anachronisms piled up like cordwood. Lee
Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running
Oh yes, that was one of the first things I noticed about the Mercedes vehicles. They were like a slot car at speed. They felt so stable and secure as opposed to Detroit iron, which took two hands and white knuckles to drive over 65 mph. Tom Potter ... I think owning this MB was when I first noticed the way the suspension changed (or maybe my 69 280SE) -- when I got to around 80mph or so - it seems to do it in all the MBs I've owned - at high speed the suspension, like,... changes - it kind of 'hunkers down' and the ride gets so smmoth! It's an amazing feeling actually - it's like being in a totally diffferent car. The pavement strips get virtually silent and the bumps disappear - and the car seems to float down the road. I suspect some others of you have felt the same thing --
Re: [MBZ] TOTALLY OT: need lame Saab stuff
They were sort of like a 240D -- they could go fast, it just took a bit longer than normal to get fast. On 10/24/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A slight exaggeration - I remember them being as fast as a 1200cc bug. I think the flat rate for a complete engine overhaul, including RR, was eight hours. ( could be wrong - this was 35 years ago). -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:47 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 061023 2.524 2.537 2.636 2.651 2.480 2.502 2.477 2.563 2.628 2.669 061016 2.503 2.521 2.623 2.636 2.462 2.459 2.461 2.539 2.655 2.703 061009 2.506 2.533 2.649 2.654 2.471 2.448 2.446 2.584 2.697 2.751 061002 2.546 2.567 2.678 2.694 2.503 2.467 2.490 2.679 2.789 2.835 060925 2.595 2.600 2.730 2.746 2.526 2.506 2.526 2.827 2.892 2.910 060918 2.713 2.699 2.832 2.844 2.625 2.624 2.636 3.052 3.014 3.002 060911 2.857 2.826 2.955 2.958 2.757 2.787 2.770 3.236 3.137 3.125 060904 2.967 2.911 3.009 3.032 2.850 2.937 2.872 3.318 3.199 3.175 060828 3.027 2.955 3.035 3.074 2.897 3.026 2.923 3.346 3.229 3.200 060821 3.033 2.953 3.049 3.078 2.890 3.041 2.923 3.349 3.237 3.221 060814 3.065 3.017 3.077 3.130 2.964 3.065 2.974 3.311 3.218 3.220 060807 3.055 3.026 3.061 3.104 2.989 3.070 2.988 3.208 3.113 3.130 060731 2.980 2.958 2.991 3.030 2.924 2.988 2.925 3.052 3.066 3.093 060724 2.946 2.925 2.972 3.002 2.888 2.951 2.895 2.987 3.047 3.097 060717 2.926 2.906 2.970 2.992 2.864 2.927 2.868 2.960 3.051 3.097 060710 2.918 2.887 2.947 2.963 2.849 2.919 2.866 2.966 3.060 3.113 060703 2.898 2.874 2.948 2.951 2.834 2.887 2.845 2.958 3.056 3.119 060626 2.867 2.864 2.952 2.956 2.816 2.819 2.822 2.960 3.068 3.140 060619 2.915 2.907 2.960 2.990 2.867 2.873 2.859 3.018 3.117 3.185 060612 2.918 2.909 2.979 2.997 2.866 2.874 2.848 3.041 3.149 3.217 060605 2.890 2.881 2.969 2.992 2.825 2.837 2.805 3.043 3.159 3.227 060529 2.882 2.873 2.966 2.987 2.815 2.824 2.798 3.044 3.161 3.227 060522 2.888 2.877 2.982 2.987 2.820 2.836 2.801 3.024 3.175 3.234 060515 2.920 2.907 3.003 3.014 2.853 2.870 2.829 3.074 3.192 3.242 060508 2.897 2.884 2.972 2.983 2.834 2.841 2.814 3.054 3.180 3.244 060501 2.896 2.892 2.979 2.987 2.843 2.853 2.832 3.012 3.098 3.163 060424 2.876 2.888 2.961 2.978 2.843 2.847 2.817 2.903 3.026 3.103 060417 2.765 2.788 2.865 2.876 2.743 2.735 2.725 2.756 2.881 2.933 060410 2.654 2.676 2.769 2.767 2.629 2.614 2.601 2.680 2.812 2.881 060403 2.617 2.639 2.731 2.727 2.593 2.578 2.579 2.629 2.753 2.812 060327 2.565 2.586 2.700 2.681 2.536 2.523 2.528 2.601 2.698 2.727 060320 2.581 2.606 2.702 2.697 2.558 2.533 2.552 2.608 2.716 2.738 060313 2.543 2.567 2.687 2.681 2.507 2.491 2.497 2.566 2.725 2.747 060306 2.545 2.571 2.656 2.682 2.516 2.500 2.499 2.545 2.711 2.739 060227 2.471 2.493 2.593 2.593 2.441 2.417 2.443 2.509 2.623 2.688 060220 2.455 2.487 2.593 2.580 2.437 2.398 2.427 2.497 2.594 2.674 060213 2.476 2.509 2.617 2.591 2.464 2.419 2.447 2.500 2.621 2.709 060206 2.499 2.536 2.659 2.618 2.490 2.445 2.463 2.503 2.645 2.739 060130 2.489 2.530 2.661 2.618 2.481 2.431 2.455 2.474 2.640 2.733 060123 2.472 2.516 2.668 2.610 2.462 2.423 2.432 2.435 2.608 2.674 060116 2.449 2.489 2.663 2.605 2.424 2.408 2.415 2.411 2.565 2.603 060109 2.485 2.528 2.676 2.626 2.473 2.451 2.453 2.421 2.577 2.601 060102 2.442 2.481
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
Gary wrote:watched films such as saving private ryan and we were soldiers for the first time, i was blown away by oh, man, this could be what it really looked like Gary - I feel the same way - now we see bullet holes in people where the old John Wayne moves the guys just fell down. As far Pvt Ryan - the storming the beach scene was so realistic it gave me a new feeling of respect for the 17,18 and 19+ year olds that actually did that! I'd read about the water turning trd from blood but seeing it always has a bigger impact. Being on that beach must have been ... well, words fail me. I'm watching a John W western now and although it's set in 1853 they all use Winchester lever actions made in 1866 so the realism suffered a tad. I guess having to use muzzle loaders would have slowed the action down a bit. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick the thing that most impresses me about movies in recent times is how much effort is put into getting the details right. when you watch, say, an old john wayne war movie, you see clearly that this is like a play and it is not like the fight really was. when i watched films such as saving private ryan and we were soldiers for the first time, i was blown away by oh, man, this could be what it really looked like On 10/24/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther's pretty cool for a late twenty-something guy who shaves his head. He is the same age as my youngest biological child. On the other hand, he did bring me a primo bottle of Scotch (I had only one Navy ration) at the last OkieQ. ***-- (The above wacky stuff was brought to you by my cat, Dawg -- he hit the keyboard mid head-butt w/ me.) And in Luther's defense, at his age I was only flying off in a aircraft on USCG rescues (go see The Guardian! - I found only three tech flaws in the entire movie). He, on the other hand, is getting stuff to your door. You might just have to thank Luther for the stuff you buy at the grocery store. D. On 10/24/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should ask their Mobil 1 or Amsoil distributor about Flomax! Err, wait... --R LT Don wrote: This is like a pis ... er, a urinating contest between two guys with prostate problems. Lighten up, folks! Belongs on Banned, not Mercedes. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: 10/23/2006
Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plug conversion
Stephen, not sure if this reply was aimed at my question about the loop to pencil plug conversion on our 240D, but I'll just make that assumption! Thanks for the advice. I have a friend making me some suitable plug to plug cables since I don't have a good crimp tool. The plugs are on the way from Rusty. I still may attempt to use 4 of the 5 spots on my 300D glow plug relay at some point in the future, but there would be that issue of it not seeing what it wants from the missing glow plug which would probably cause the glow plug light on the dash to do funny things.. ...Kevin Stephen D Murrell said: I changed my loop glow plugs over to later pencil type; 1979 , just remove all the insulators the Squiggly resistance wire??? put plugs in hook wires on plugs; i had to have the Large plugs; later heads use the smaller ones, like later cars; didn't change the relay or anything else; Bosch had a kit with 4 glow plugs the wires with crimped eyelets? already on them, think at least 10 guage, heavy wire; also this cut the glow time in 1/2 or more; still working after about 10 years?? Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
[MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
How about this for a new topic of discussion: Kleb goes to the RustyQ via Tennessee and drives Duff's forward-only 240D over to the RustyQ to swap it's engine into the parts 240D that Rusty apparently gave to Kleb last year. The gang all pitches in to see how quickly the job can be completed once Kleb rolls up in the forward-only 240D.. Now that would be an adventure! ...Kevin
Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
And it could be done in let's sayLess than a 6 pack each. Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? How about this for a new topic of discussion: Kleb goes to the RustyQ via Tennessee and drives Duff's forward-only 240D over to the RustyQ to swap it's engine into the parts 240D that Rusty apparently gave to Kleb last year. The gang all pitches in to see how quickly the job can be completed once Kleb rolls up in the forward-only 240D.. Now that would be an adventure! ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another oil thread
So to keep fires burning...
I got my latest oil analysis this week, went a shade over 8,000 miles before
testing. Larry says 113ppm iron is cause for concern but everything else looks
fine.
I counter that the last check was at 7,000 some miles and iron was around
130ppm so we're seeing a much slower rise in iron per oil change.
My theory is that the iron we're seeing is from carbon being released. The
engine in my car ('85 190D 2.2l) was seriously carboned up when I first got it
and 16,000 miles later its gotten alot better but still has some way to go. As
the carbon gets more cleaned up I should see fewer problems with high iron
level.
Anyway, thats the theory, what say you?
-Curt
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I'll preface this by saying I know next to nothing about oil analysis, but -
Why would carbon buildup, which I'm guessing is comprised mostly of carbon
(C), contain any iron (Fe)?
Isn't the the block of a 2.2 cast iron? If so, then it wouldn't it seem to
be a more likely place for iron to get into the oil?
Just a thought,
Mike
On 10/25/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So to keep fires burning...
I got my latest oil analysis this week, went a shade over 8,000 miles
before testing. Larry says 113ppm iron is cause for concern but everything
else looks fine.
I counter that the last check was at 7,000 some miles and iron was around
130ppm so we're seeing a much slower rise in iron per oil change.
My theory is that the iron we're seeing is from carbon being released. The
engine in my car ('85 190D 2.2l) was seriously carboned up when I first
got it and 16,000 miles later its gotten alot better but still has some way
to go. As the carbon gets more cleaned up I should see fewer problems with
high iron level.
Anyway, thats the theory, what say you?
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
Lets see here, there will be alcohol, power tools heavy engines involved... Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/25/06 09:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= And it could be done in let's sayLess than a 6 pack each. Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? How about this for a new topic of discussion: Kleb goes to the RustyQ via Tennessee and drives Duff's forward-only 240D over to the RustyQ to swap it's engine into the parts 240D that Rusty apparently gave to Kleb last year. The gang all pitches in to see how quickly the job can be completed once Kleb rolls up in the forward-only 240D.. Now that would be an adventure! ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state
I couldn't agree more Mr. Striplin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:19 PM To: Mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN,Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state I thought this conversation would have ended by now. Mike and I have conversed offlist and everything is fine. When I posted about personal attacks not be tolerated before, that was not aimed only at Mike attacking other people, that would also include people attacking Mike. If one more such post is made, all posts to the list will require approval before they are allowed thru. Sorry it came to this, hopefully it ends now. Now lets get back to talking about oil, glow plugs, and heading to the RustyQ. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
Only thing missing is guns, I'm sure that could be arranged too. http://www.montrosebeerandgunclub.com/ --R Tom Hargrave wrote: Lets see here, there will be alcohol, power tools heavy engines involved... Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/25/06 09:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= And it could be done in let's sayLess than a 6 pack each. Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? How about this for a new topic of discussion: Kleb goes to the RustyQ via Tennessee and drives Duff's forward-only 240D over to the RustyQ to swap it's engine into the parts 240D that Rusty apparently gave to Kleb last year. The gang all pitches in to see how quickly the job can be completed once Kleb rolls up in the forward-only 240D.. Now that would be an adventure! ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
Works for me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin J. Slater Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? How about this for a new topic of discussion: Kleb goes to the RustyQ via Tennessee and drives Duff's forward-only 240D over to the RustyQ to swap it's engine into the parts 240D that Rusty apparently gave to Kleb last year. The gang all pitches in to see how quickly the job can be completed once Kleb rolls up in the forward-only 240D.. Now that would be an adventure! ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state
I'll let him know... Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN,Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state Now lets get back to talking about oil, glow plugs, and heading to the RustyQ. Somebody needs to let Chuck L. and anybody else who quit the list know Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
1873 winchester repeating rifles. the guns that won the west. when the james-younger gang went to northfield, MN, to rob the bank, the locals met them with 1873 winchesters. guess who won that fight? sadly, lever action cavalry guns are no longer made under the winchester name. the tradition is hard to kill, though, and many continue to make them, most notably Marlin. lightweight, easy handling and very fast for their time (but not fast for today, so don't take your lever gun to shoot it out against gang bangers with full auto AK-47s), they remain today a very useful brush gun and are as good as anything at all inside of 100 yards. On 10/25/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote:watched films such as saving private ryan and we were soldiers for the first time, i was blown away by oh, man, this could be what it really looked like Gary - I feel the same way - now we see bullet holes in people where the old John Wayne moves the guys just fell down. As far Pvt Ryan - the storming the beach scene was so realistic it gave me a new feeling of respect for the 17,18 and 19+ year olds that actually did that! I'd read about the water turning trd from blood but seeing it always has a bigger impact. Being on that beach must have been ... well, words fail me. I'm watching a John W western now and although it's set in 1853 they all use Winchester lever actions made in 1866 so the realism suffered a tad. I guess having to use muzzle loaders would have slowed the action down a bit. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick the thing that most impresses me about movies in recent times is how much effort is put into getting the details right. when you watch, say, an old john wayne war movie, you see clearly that this is like a play and it is not like the fight really was. when i watched films such as saving private ryan and we were soldiers for the first time, i was blown away by oh, man, this could be what it really looked like On 10/24/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther's pretty cool for a late twenty-something guy who shaves his head. He is the same age as my youngest biological child. On the other hand, he did bring me a primo bottle of Scotch (I had only one Navy ration) at the last OkieQ. ***-- (The above wacky stuff was brought to you by my cat, Dawg -- he hit the keyboard mid head-butt w/ me.) And in Luther's defense, at his age I was only flying off in a aircraft on USCG rescues (go see The Guardian! - I found only three tech flaws in the entire movie). He, on the other hand, is getting stuff to your door. You might just have to thank Luther for the stuff you buy at the grocery store. D. On 10/24/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should ask their Mobil 1 or Amsoil distributor about Flomax! Err, wait... --R LT Don wrote: This is like a pis ... er, a urinating contest between two guys with prostate problems. Lighten up, folks! Belongs on Banned, not Mercedes. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: 10/23/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state
i wish so many of you weren't so sensitive. so many of us here have been together for so long and yet so many will jump ship the moment they are offended. let's have some reasonableness from all parties as this list won't be around much longer without it On 10/25/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll let him know... Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN,Final warning before entire list goes into moderation state Now lets get back to talking about oil, glow plugs, and heading to the RustyQ. Somebody needs to let Chuck L. and anybody else who quit the list know Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plug conversion
Thanks for the advice. I have a friend making me some suitable plug to plug cables since I don't have a good crimp tool. The plugs are on the way from Rusty. I still may attempt to use 4 of the 5 spots on my 300D glow plug relay at some point in the future, but there would be that issue of it not seeing what it wants from the missing glow plug which would probably cause the glow plug light on the dash to do funny things.. Eh? You're not planning to use that relay and wire the whole string to only one pin? That won't work, those pins aren't rated for the full current. Individually, that is. And yes, the light won't work right. Changing it to a four-banger also would not be easy, as the current sensing works via balanced windings working against a reed switch. You'd have to rewind the heavy wire coil around there to compensate, and I'm not sure you can do this without ruining it. If you open the relay all should become clear with a bit of studying. (Though come to think of it the 5-cylinder version has a weird 'bolt-on' arrangement for handling #5, so maybe it could be converted after all. More study would be req'd.) We all are assuming you will continue to use the existing, very heavy single-contact relay you have. That will work just fine, it just doesn't have the plug-out detection logic. (They all have to be out for it to complain, it was designed for a series string.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
Lets see here, there will be alcohol, power tools heavy engines involved... Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Tom: You forgot fire. Must have fire, and not just from the BBQ- a good size torch to motivate bolts or burn stuff off... Tony Wirtel
[MBZ] Partook in an MBCA Gymkhana
It occurred last Saturday and I had a ball. Turnout was low b/c of impending doom from above that never came. There was a slow skills course and a fast speed course. I managed to fold over onto the tires' sidewalls in that one, generating lots of intense screetching and grins. Here's a shot of me at the finish line in the skills course: http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8929/200609222ay6.jpg More photos of the day. Only one diesel appeared, a 1985 300SD. http://www.mbfanatics.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=585 Tim 1982 300TD Moby 1991 300TE 4Matic Beulah
[MBZ] Diesel Peek a Boo can you help?
Any one live near Andover Minn and could look at a diesel for me please. Believe not too far from Twin Cities. Details to follow. Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D
Re: [MBZ] E300D idle off
I like Soot better. On 10/24/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sud? or Soot? Intake body was cleaned recently with the change in glowplugs last spring. Fresh bypass hoses this summer and no buildup seen in four months time. Could I have put the intake thingy on wrong? On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I am just guessing here, but if the EGR is active, you may have a lot of sud built up in the intake/resonator manifold. It is fairly easy to pull the intake pipe which will reveil the condition. On 10/23/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked the folks on the MBCA forum about the issue and got a RTFM from Marshall. Anybody want to give better data? Idle is rough and I would like to know what to do to adjust it so that it idles smoother. With all the knowledge around here, somebody must know what I can do -- -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
it's a massive firepower disadvantage. the gang guy would have to be pretty lame or you pretty lucky for you to come out on top the closest i've been to a gunfight is about 10 feet and the combatants were remarkably inept. both emptied high capacity glock magazines and no one died. most of the bullets ended up in my 1971 250, which still had the bullet holes in it when it was last driven by MMM. you would think two fellas who have chosen such a violent profession would be better at violence, but it seems everything is dumbed down in our modern times. my personal favorite gun is my FN-49 8mm battle rifle, but i'd still think i'd take the AK for a firefight and probably the 20 gauge for more intimate work. On 10/25/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: 1873 winchester repeating rifles. the guns that won the west. when the james-younger gang went to northfield, MN, to rob the bank, the locals met them with 1873 winchesters. guess who won that fight? sadly, lever action cavalry guns are no longer made under the winchester name. the tradition is hard to kill, though, and many continue to make them, most notably Marlin. lightweight, easy handling and very fast for their time (but not fast for today, so don't take your lever gun to shoot it out against gang bangers with full auto AK-47s), they remain today a very useful brush gun and are as good as anything at all inside of 100 yards. I suspect that it was the shooters and the circumstance, not the weapons, that made the difference in Northfield. Even given that a rifle has it all over a pistol for accuracy. The James-Younger gang rode into an ambush, IIRC, with the townspeople shooting from cover and picking them off easy as pie. And as for going against gang-bangers and their AKs with a winchester, it might be a workable proposition. I have known bangers and street dealers to go literally ballistic and spray goddamn near everything in the general vicinity with lead EXCEPT their intended target. [one such incident happened across the street from my flat in Detroit- a bunch of dimwits decided to rip off the local drug dealer- turned out to be a mistake as he was home. They went high-tailing it out the door with him close behind, and as the five of them scrambled to get into their Suzuki Samurai across the street, no more than twenty paces away, he emptied the clip of his 9mm at them. Hit one guy in the ass, every other shot missed.] So I am thinking an experienced meat-hunter with a lever-action, a good rest and a steady nerve could do fairly well against a gang-banger with an AK. It is after all not how much lead you put into the air but rather how much you put into your opponent that counts. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
Sounds like a story is required here. Mike On 10/25/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the closest i've been to a gunfight is about 10 feet and the combatants were remarkably inept. both emptied high capacity glock magazines and no one died. most of the bullets ended up in my 1971 250, which still had the bullet holes in it when it was last driven by MMM. you would think two fellas who have chosen such a violent profession would be better at violence, but it seems everything is dumbed down in our modern times.
[MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
Dropping in from lurk mode, wowie zowie you guys have too much time on your hands for all this bickering... Need a quick recommendation on how to resurrect the leater seats that have been drying out in my barn for the last few years. Practical real world experience appreciated. TIA! -Zach
Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread
I don't have a good answer for you... I have some theories. #1 As carbon collects it grabs some iron thats floating around in the engine. Grabs is the wrong word, the iron collects with the carbon. Then when the carbon is released the iron is also but while the carbon blows out of the engine the iron sneaks down into the oil. #2 As the carbon blows out of the engine bits of iron that it was attached to flake off and sneak down into the oil. #3 Due to poor maintenance on the part of the previous owner (there lots of other more obvious examples of this) sludge has collected in the oil pan which is slowly being released into the engine by the detergent action of the clean oil I'm using thus releasing iron that was trapped in the sludge. I've been considering something like Auto-Rx or Amsoil's Engine Flush to get the crud out more quickly, but based on the last result I'm tempted to just change the oil and test again at 8,000 miles. I suspect (hope) I'll see an even slower rise in iron this time and maybe after another change or two iron levels will stay in normal territory. -Curt - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 25 15:58:46 2006 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.200.82]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gcl9R-CV-PR for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:58:46 + Received: from [192.168.0.5] (c-24-18-178-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.18.178.168]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id 20061025155836012002froee; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:58:37 + Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:59:01 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:58:46 - Shut the fracis up On Oct 25, 2006, at 12:45 AM, kevin kraly wrote: Tell him you will pay him $50 and to STFU STFU? I've never heard that one before. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Saab question
Hey John, just found this post. I'm in SE Minnesota. Thanks though! I took back to NAPA two gallons of Zerex G05 because I thought it wasn't necessary for my Saab. But now I may go buy them back. Brian On 10/23/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, where are you? I have 2 gallons of the Saab antifreeze left from my Saab days. Fat chance you're in the NE. John Peterson Zoltan Finks wrote: Okay, that gives me a shock, because I just asked recently whether or not the green stuff will be okay in my 84 Saab 900, and the answer came back that the green stuff is just fine. Brian On 10/22/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those headliners failed on every saab I had. I bought a headliner kit for +-300 and installed it one weekend. It looked great. But I did live without a headliner (after tearing the sagging one out) for a couple of years! The Bentley is the book for you. Did anyone give you the lecture about using the Saab or MB cooling fluid? I know there was horror stories on the lists about regular antifreeze (green stuff) killing head gaskets left and right. You are on saabnet.com no? John Peterson Sunil Hari wrote: thanks for the help - I need to buy a Saab bible (Bentley?). Also, the sunroof has a horribly sagging headliner, to the point where the roof won't retract all the way. Suggestions on how to remove/repair/replace it? On 10/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes-on my 90, first was hard to find, esp. if you snap shifted. I found that easing it in with minimal right side pressure worked. On my 82 900 4-speed, second was hard to find. Dwight. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Sunil Hari wrote: question - on these saabs (I know, non-Benz questions) is 5th gear hard to find? On mine, 5th is 1/2 away from third, maybe less. Any adjustments to make or anything like that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E300D idle off
Do you have the pdf's for this (14-). I can forward off list. On 10/24/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sud? or Soot? Intake body was cleaned recently with the change in glowplugs last spring. Fresh bypass hoses this summer and no buildup seen in four months time. Could I have put the intake thingy on wrong? On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I am just guessing here, but if the EGR is active, you may have a lot of sud built up in the intake/resonator manifold. It is fairly easy to pull the intake pipe which will reveil the condition. On 10/23/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked the folks on the MBCA forum about the issue and got a RTFM from Marshall. Anybody want to give better data? Idle is rough and I would like to know what to do to adjust it so that it idles smoother. With all the knowledge around here, somebody must know what I can do -- -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
Some people have recommend Leatherique. I tried it. In my opinion it does not work worth a damn on dried out leather. Neatsfoot oil does the trick. It will darken the leather, however. The stain that MB uses has held up to it well so far. You only see the darkness through the cracks. To fix that, you would need to re-stain the leather, I guess. I tried the Compound and the pure oil. The oil goes farther and is a bit thicker but either works well. I paid ~ $10/gallon for the compound and $16/gallon for the oil from a mail order horse tack supply company that sells saddles and stuff I found on Google. The smell goes completely away after a few weeks. That or I'm so used to it I can't tell any more. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 10/25/06, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dropping in from lurk mode, wowie zowie you guys have too much time on your hands for all this bickering... Need a quick recommendation on how to resurrect the leater seats that have been drying out in my barn for the last few years. Practical real world experience appreciated. TIA! -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
Gary Hurst wrote: the closest i've been to a gunfight is about 10 feet and the combatants were remarkably inept. both emptied high capacity glock magazines and no one died. most of the bullets ended up in my 1971 250, which still had the bullet holes in it when it was last driven by MMM. you would think two fellas who have chosen such a violent profession would be better at violence, but it seems everything is dumbed down in our modern times. Sounds like you might have used up a couple of your nine lives on that one. A bystander is often the worst person to be in a situation like that. I have often thought that, some of these street dealers being such incredibly bad shots, the safest thing to do if they are shooting at you would be to stand absolutely still, as the one thing they never seem to hit is what they are aiming at. Of course, I don't take my own advice. I have not lived in such wild woolly neighborhoods for years, but when I did and I heard gunshots I dove for cover muy pronto. Lee
Re: [MBZ] E300D idle off
I thought it might be that. Wonders how I could get suds in there. Clean as a whistle last time I peaked and am going to run some diesel kleen just to make sure I get injectors tidy. Then some HEET, red to take care of any water. On Oct 25, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I like Soot better. On 10/24/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sud? or Soot? Intake body was cleaned recently with the change in glowplugs last spring. Fresh bypass hoses this summer and no buildup seen in four months time. Could I have put the intake thingy on wrong? On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I am just guessing here, but if the EGR is active, you may have a lot of sud built up in the intake/resonator manifold. It is fairly easy to pull the intake pipe which will reveil the condition. On 10/23/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked the folks on the MBCA forum about the issue and got a RTFM from Marshall. Anybody want to give better data? Idle is rough and I would like to know what to do to adjust it so that it idles smoother. With all the knowledge around here, somebody must know what I can do -- -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plug conversion
Jim Cathey said: Eh? You're not planning to use that relay and wire the whole string to only one pin? That won't work, those pins aren't rated for the full current. Individually, that is. And yes, the light won't work right. Changing it to a four-banger also would not be easy, as the current sensing works via balanced windings working against a reed switch. You'd have to rewind the heavy wire coil around there to compensate, and I'm not sure you can do this without ruining it. If you open the relay all should become clear with a bit of studying. (Though come to think of it the 5-cylinder version has a weird 'bolt-on' arrangement for handling #5, so maybe it could be converted after all. More study would be req'd.) We all are assuming you will continue to use the existing, very heavy single-contact relay you have. That will work just fine, it just doesn't have the plug-out detection logic. (They all have to be out for it to complain, it was designed for a series string.) Thanks for the clarification; that's why I ask these sort of questions on the list! I 'll go with the original (series) relay and wire it up as suggested, which although it won't detect plug out scenarios as well, will work for now. I did expect to have to do some rework on the 300D relay to be able to use it. ...Kevin
Re: [MBZ] E300D idle off
Please forward said PDF. Would love to know what I am looking for On Oct 25, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: Do you have the pdf's for this (14-). I can forward off list. On 10/24/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sud? or Soot? Intake body was cleaned recently with the change in glowplugs last spring. Fresh bypass hoses this summer and no buildup seen in four months time. Could I have put the intake thingy on wrong? On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I am just guessing here, but if the EGR is active, you may have a lot of sud built up in the intake/resonator manifold. It is fairly easy to pull the intake pipe which will reveil the condition. On 10/23/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked the folks on the MBCA forum about the issue and got a RTFM from Marshall. Anybody want to give better data? Idle is rough and I would like to know what to do to adjust it so that it idles smoother. With all the knowledge around here, somebody must know what I can do -- -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
I would recommend Leatherique which I sell. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zach Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment Dropping in from lurk mode, wowie zowie you guys have too much time on your hands for all this bickering... Need a quick recommendation on how to resurrect the leater seats that have been drying out in my barn for the last few years. Practical real world experience appreciated. TIA! -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
Dave, if Leatherique did not work for you it is possible that it was not applied properly. I have been using it for many years on many vehicles and it does a wonderful job. If Zach buys it from me I will tell him the proper Way to use it and I am sure he will get excellent results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment Some people have recommend Leatherique. I tried it. In my opinion it does not work worth a damn on dried out leather. Neatsfoot oil does the trick. It will darken the leather, however. The stain that MB uses has held up to it well so far. You only see the darkness through the cracks. To fix that, you would need to re-stain the leather, I guess. I tried the Compound and the pure oil. The oil goes farther and is a bit thicker but either works well. I paid ~ $10/gallon for the compound and $16/gallon for the oil from a mail order horse tack supply company that sells saddles and stuff I found on Google. The smell goes completely away after a few weeks. That or I'm so used to it I can't tell any more. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 10/25/06, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dropping in from lurk mode, wowie zowie you guys have too much time on your hands for all this bickering... Need a quick recommendation on how to resurrect the leater seats that have been drying out in my barn for the last few years. Practical real world experience appreciated. TIA! -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
Yes, and?? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? Lets see here, there will be alcohol, power tools heavy engines involved... Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/25/06 09:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= And it could be done in let's sayLess than a 6 pack each. Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? How about this for a new topic of discussion: Kleb goes to the RustyQ via Tennessee and drives Duff's forward-only 240D over to the RustyQ to swap it's engine into the parts 240D that Rusty apparently gave to Kleb last year. The gang all pitches in to see how quickly the job can be completed once Kleb rolls up in the forward-only 240D.. Now that would be an adventure! ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into
Gary Hurst wrote: i wish so many of you weren't so sensitive. so many of us here have been together for so long and yet so many will jump ship the moment they are offended. let's have some reasonableness from all parties as this list won't be around much longer without it I have been out of town and state and I came back to a zillion emails and I started to read some of them and then all of a sudden some people were bent out of shape. Come on shake hands pat each other on the shoulder and let's get back to talking about cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dropping in from lurk mode, wowie zowie you guys have too much time on your hands for all this bickering... Need a quick recommendation on how to resurrect the leater seats that have been drying out in my barn for the last few years. Practical real world experience appreciated. Leatherique from Rusty. And don't sit on them until they're soft. Craig
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
I've gone as far as to pool leatherique on the underside of the leather until saturated. When it dries, I am left with just that - dry leather. Wiping it on the surface does diddly. I will admit that the leather is marginally more flexible after leatherique, but Neatsfoot oil actually leaves the leather in a condition that I would consider sitting on. Maybe Zach should try both and report back? How about if I send him an ounce or so of neatsfoot oil, and you send him a little Leatherique to test with? Email me offlist with your mailing address, Zach. Thanks -Dave Walton On 10/25/06, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, if Leatherique did not work for you it is possible that it was not applied properly. I have been using it for many years on many vehicles and it does a wonderful job. If Zach buys it from me I will tell him the proper Way to use it and I am sure he will get excellent results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment Some people have recommend Leatherique. I tried it. In my opinion it does not work worth a damn on dried out leather. Neatsfoot oil does the trick. It will darken the leather, however. The stain that MB uses has held up to it well so far. You only see the darkness through the cracks. To fix that, you would need to re-stain the leather, I guess. I tried the Compound and the pure oil. The oil goes farther and is a bit thicker but either works well. I paid ~ $10/gallon for the compound and $16/gallon for the oil from a mail order horse tack supply company that sells saddles and stuff I found on Google. The smell goes completely away after a few weeks. That or I'm so used to it I can't tell any more. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 10/25/06, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dropping in from lurk mode, wowie zowie you guys have too much time on your hands for all this bickering... Need a quick recommendation on how to resurrect the leater seats that have been drying out in my barn for the last few years. Practical real world experience appreciated. TIA! -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
How long did you leave it on? What was the outside temperature when you did this? What did you wipe it off with? Many questions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment I've gone as far as to pool leatherique on the underside of the leather until saturated. When it dries, I am left with just that - dry leather. Wiping it on the surface does diddly. I will admit that the leather is marginally more flexible after leatherique, but Neatsfoot oil actually leaves the leather in a condition that I would consider sitting on. Maybe Zach should try both and report back? How about if I send him an ounce or so of neatsfoot oil, and you send him a little Leatherique to test with? Email me offlist with your mailing address, Zach. Thanks -Dave Walton benz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
when i moved to atlanta, i moved to what appeared to be a very nice apartment complex in norcross. people moved out. less nice people moved in. i didn't pay it any real attention. in short order, it became a slum. it wasn't that bad for me as i was ok with most of my neighbors, except the crackheads would get on my nerves. (one woman bangs on my door at 2AM screaming it's an emergency and she needs to use my phone. so i give her my phone. at 2:30, the phone is not returned, so i go outside to see what is going on. she is sitting on my steps with her 2 young children and a phone book desperately trying to order pizza.) violence became a matter of course. one hot summer night, a friendly discussion amongst the drug addicts became a heated debate over whether shaka zulu or mike tyson was a greater hero and roll model. both sides presented interesting arguments, but there was too much passion over this issue and the next thing you know, someone is stabbed. and then came the coup de grace for me. the drug trade in the complex was pretty well organized and generally went on without incident. everyone knew where they stood. however, a new fellow moved in next door to me, and he felt he could independently distribute drugs from his apartment. i suppose it was silly of him to think this as such franchises are generally well protected once allocated, but he just went and did it anyway. so one of the other guys came to shoot him. but he was ready. and the two met to settle their difference. one was on one side of the 250 and the other on the other side. they emptied their clips moving around my car. both were hit and bleeding on the ground. naturally, i found this situation pretty stressful, so i went to my car to get one of the cigarettes i kept there. a very nice detective asked me what exactly i was doing. i explained that he needn't worry as i am the owner of the car. he was dumbfounded by my reply, but politely explained that one cannot simply enter a crime scene and go get a smoke, even if one is the rightful owner of the vehicle. and then came a moment of epiphany. i asked him how long it should take before i might get a cig. he explained that it all depends on whether either chap dies. if one dies, then they will be there all night and will conduct a proper investigation. if no one dies, they will pack up and go home and it will be as if nothing ever happened. in a few minutes, the hospital called and informed the detective that no one appears to have life threatening injuries, so they packed up the investigation and left. i got my cig and pondered the absurdity of thinking that i have a country anymore. i moved shortly thereafter. On 10/25/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: the closest i've been to a gunfight is about 10 feet and the combatants were remarkably inept. both emptied high capacity glock magazines and no one died. most of the bullets ended up in my 1971 250, which still had the bullet holes in it when it was last driven by MMM. you would think two fellas who have chosen such a violent profession would be better at violence, but it seems everything is dumbed down in our modern times. Sounds like you might have used up a couple of your nine lives on that one. A bystander is often the worst person to be in a situation like that. I have often thought that, some of these street dealers being such incredibly bad shots, the safest thing to do if they are shooting at you would be to stand absolutely still, as the one thing they never seem to hit is what they are aiming at. Of course, I don't take my own advice. I have not lived in such wild woolly neighborhoods for years, but when I did and I heard gunshots I dove for cover muy pronto. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into
exactly. it's ridiculous to make this into an issue. my 81 300TD is leaking oil maniacally right now. anyone want to talk about that? :) On 10/25/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: i wish so many of you weren't so sensitive. so many of us here have been together for so long and yet so many will jump ship the moment they are offended. let's have some reasonableness from all parties as this list won't be around much longer without it I have been out of town and state and I came back to a zillion emails and I started to read some of them and then all of a sudden some people were bent out of shape. Come on shake hands pat each other on the shoulder and let's get back to talking about cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been considering something like Auto-Rx or Amsoil's Engine Flush to get the crud out more quickly, but based on the last result I'm tempted to just change the oil and test again at 8,000 miles. Use Mobil 1 and drive it like you stole it. Craig
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
87 SDL left in sun for last 10 years before I bought it. Remove rear seat. turn upside down, remove leather cover around edges and put seat back in car with leather peeled back. Did not wipe it off, left it on until it was all absorbed (applied to underside open grain) in a small test area. It was summertime in Northern Ohio. 70-80's F give or take. I've since applied neatsfoot oil to the top of the leather in my 94S350 as well. The entire car (front seat, back seat, headrests) absorbed about 2 gallons. The 87 is much better, but is still a bit stiff. the 94 is now glove soft all over. Plan to hit them again next summer. I'm a bit worried about the long term effect of the neatsfoot oil on the foam in the seats, but so far, so good. -Dave Walton On 10/25/06, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long did you leave it on? What was the outside temperature when you did this? What did you wipe it off with? Many questions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment I've gone as far as to pool leatherique on the underside of the leather until saturated. When it dries, I am left with just that - dry leather. Wiping it on the surface does diddly. I will admit that the leather is marginally more flexible after leatherique, but Neatsfoot oil actually leaves the leather in a condition that I would consider sitting on. Maybe Zach should try both and report back? How about if I send him an ounce or so of neatsfoot oil, and you send him a little Leatherique to test with? Email me offlist with your mailing address, Zach. Thanks -Dave Walton benz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into
I'll bite- From where is it leaking oil? Lee Gary Hurst wrote: exactly. it's ridiculous to make this into an issue. my 81 300TD is leaking oil maniacally right now. anyone want to talk about that? :) On 10/25/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: i wish so many of you weren't so sensitive. so many of us here have been together for so long and yet so many will jump ship the moment they are offended. let's have some reasonableness from all parties as this list won't be around much longer without it I have been out of town and state and I came back to a zillion emails and I started to read some of them and then all of a sudden some people were bent out of shape. Come on shake hands pat each other on the shoulder and let's get back to talking about cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
The hotter the better for Leatherique. You should massage it in like it's your first girlfriend's breasts. Put car outside in the sun, leaving windows up to create a sauna effect. After at least 8 hours wipe clean with Leatherique Pristine Clean. Then wipe again with a damp cloth. Lastly, buff once with dry cloth. Do this 4 times a year and you will always have leather as soft as a baby's behind. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment 87 SDL left in sun for last 10 years before I bought it. Remove rear seat. turn upside down, remove leather cover around edges and put seat back in car with leather peeled back. Did not wipe it off, left it on until it was all absorbed (applied to underside open grain) in a small test area. It was summertime in Northern Ohio. 70-80's F give or take. I've since applied neatsfoot oil to the top of the leather in my 94S350 as well. The entire car (front seat, back seat, headrests) absorbed about 2 gallons. The 87 is much better, but is still a bit stiff. the 94 is now glove soft all over. Plan to hit them again next summer. I'm a bit worried about the long term effect of the neatsfoot oil on the foam in the seats, but so far, so good. -Dave Walton
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into
You can't tell from looking down into the engine compartment. We are going to have to get it in the air. But in 30 minutes he left a 1/2 quart puddle the size of a toaster oven. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Einer Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Final warning before entire list goes into I'll bite- From where is it leaking oil? Lee Gary Hurst wrote: exactly. it's ridiculous to make this into an issue. my 81 300TD is leaking oil maniacally right now. anyone want to talk about that? :) On 10/25/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: i wish so many of you weren't so sensitive. so many of us here have been together for so long and yet so many will jump ship the moment they are offended. let's have some reasonableness from all parties as this list won't be around much longer without it I have been out of town and state and I came back to a zillion emails and I started to read some of them and then all of a sudden some people were bent out of shape. Come on shake hands pat each other on the shoulder and let's get back to talking about cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ?
And, oh well, never mind. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? Yes, and?? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? Lets see here, there will be alcohol, power tools heavy engines involved... Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/25/06 09:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= And it could be done in let's sayLess than a 6 pack each. Mike - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] How about an engine-swap-a-thon at the RustyQ? How about this for a new topic of discussion: Kleb goes to the RustyQ via Tennessee and drives Duff's forward-only 240D over to the RustyQ to swap it's engine into the parts 240D that Rusty apparently gave to Kleb last year. The gang all pitches in to see how quickly the job can be completed once Kleb rolls up in the forward-only 240D.. Now that would be an adventure! ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
Lee Einer wrote: It is after all not how much lead you put into the air but rather how much you put into your opponent that counts. Somebody needs to tell the nation's law enforcement agencies that. This spring, the keystone cops, in conjunction with federal agents, Kalamazoo police, and I believe Michigan State Police, tried to arrest a guy out of a house. When the suspect started shooting, they all opened up (in a residential area), some with full autos. Hundreds of bullets flew in about 15 seconds, none striking flesh. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
Rusty wrote: I would recommend Leatherique which I sell. I bought some rejuvenator a while back, didn't buy the cleaner. How do I get the rejuvenator off so the seats aren't so sticky? Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
You should use the Pristine Clean. The whole Leatherique thing is a 4 step process. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment Rusty wrote: I would recommend Leatherique which I sell. I bought some rejuvenator a while back, didn't buy the cleaner. How do I get the rejuvenator off so the seats aren't so sticky? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Leatherique
I've used neatsfoot oil for decades on boots, harness leather, etc and for such applications it does a great job, and it's cheap. BUT I would not want to sit on leather that has absorbed a lot of it, as dry leather will, as it leaves a greasy residue and a smell in my experience. I have used leatherique on the seats of my '82 SD and have been very pleased--they come clean, are softer and more flexible. I put it on with a spray bottle on a hot day, let it soak in well, and rub off the excess, if any. On cracked areas, I make more than one application. On the top part of my back seat seaback, which was extensively sun-hardened almost to the consistency of cardboard, I removed the seat and sprayed the underside of the leather liberally--really soaked it--several times, until the leather wouldn't accept any more. Saturated the top surface also. Did the trick wonderfully--the leather there is now as soft as the rest of the seats. Did the same with the underside of the leather on the skirts surrounding the front seat with the same results. Neatsfoot oil may or may not have softened the leather just as well, but I'm sure it would have left me smelling like a sheep. And I wouldn't want to risk staining my clothes. Also, the oily residue in neatsfoot oil holds dirt--I know that from experience. Leatherique does not, if you use the cleaner afterwards. Follow Rusty's directions and you'll be very pleased. Dan -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 25 18:19:35 2006 Received: from smtp-in-1.userservices.net ([207.109.251.9]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GcnLh-0005U2-Vo for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:19:34 + Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-in-1.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683394BD1EE for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:19:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: virus free Received: from smtp-in-1.userservices.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-in-1.userservices.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DHm+19BlC9zt for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s3.visp.net (email-inc-3.userservices.net [207.109.251.21]) by smtp-in-1.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B60F4BCF72 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-36.cnsp.net [208.3.82.36]) by s3.visp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 21B152BF75D for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:15:58 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Someone was looking for an antenna ... X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:19:35 - Hirschmann: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270045757123 Aftermarket: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270045763160 Craig
[MBZ] RustyQ 2006
It is only days away. The RSVP list is up to 60 now. The address is 4522 Kingsgate Drive, Dunwoody, GA 30338. My cell is 770-490-7320 if anyone has questions. The Koozie Cup Holders are silver black this year. Make sure you get them while youre here. Hurst, aka Dr. Fatty, is tipping the scales at 600 pounds and hasnt cut his hair in 2 ½ years. Its worth the trip just to see him, whether you like barbeque or not! Come on and make the trip, what else is there to do on a Saturday afternoon? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 800-741-5252
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
Gary Hurst wrote: so one of the other guys came to shoot him. but he was ready. and the two met to settle their difference. one was on one side of the 250 and the other on the other side. they emptied their clips moving around my car. both were hit and bleeding on the ground. I love that story. For the newcomers among us, this poor, bullet-riddled strichacht now retired in Arkansas and returning to the earth from whence it came, is the single most significant car in the entire online Mercedes community and the very genesis of this list. Without the big wind of 1998 and that car, there would have been no mbz.org, no OkieBenz, no buyMBparts, and certainly no RustyQ this weekend. A moment of silence and a raised glass, please. Tom, subtly urging Gary to share another tale from ancient times
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
Here, here young Tommy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tom savage Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black Gary Hurst wrote: so one of the other guys came to shoot him. but he was ready. and the two met to settle their difference. one was on one side of the 250 and the other on the other side. they emptied their clips moving around my car. both were hit and bleeding on the ground. I love that story. For the newcomers among us, this poor, bullet-riddled strichacht now retired in Arkansas and returning to the earth from whence it came, is the single most significant car in the entire online Mercedes community and the very genesis of this list. Without the big wind of 1998 and that car, there would have been no mbz.org, no OkieBenz, no buyMBparts, and certainly no RustyQ this weekend. A moment of silence and a raised glass, please. Tom, subtly urging Gary to share another tale from ancient times ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: Kettle, pot, black -Now: Qualifications
2/3 of a Masters in Geology. Take that! On 10/24/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PhD in Plant Physiology, working as a chemist. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment
Zymol makes very nice Leather cleaning and restoring liquid products, and best of all - you can buy them for uner $10/ea. at Target (Tahr-ZHAY) On 10/25/06, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should use the Pristine Clean. The whole Leatherique thing is a 4 step process. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] dried-out leather treatment Rusty wrote: I would recommend Leatherique which I sell. I bought some rejuvenator a while back, didn't buy the cleaner. How do I get the rejuvenator off so the seats aren't so sticky? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Someone was looking for an antenna ...
I was - thanks. Unfortunately, I need an OEM Hirschmann for a 123 300TD wagon that is unique to that car. On 10/25/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hirschmann: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270045757123 Aftermarket: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270045763160 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black
I recently saw a program on The History Channel about the Northfield raid - two of the points they made was 1) it was the beginning of hunting season and many of the townpeople were armed with hunting rifles and 2) the money being stolen belonged to the townpeople - not some nondescript corp or bank - and there was no such thing as FDIC insurance - if the money's gone, it;s gone. Things started going wrong when the gang rode into town and entered the bank - a local saw what was happening and alerted the townspeople - who promptly started the shooting. even though the locals were not combat proven like the gangs, they made a pretty good accounting of themselves. As far as personal protection now a-days, there's no substitute for a short barrelled 12 ga pump for close in work - and absolutely *nothing* puts the fear of God into a bad guy like hearing the slide of a pump shotgun being racked back and forth - a truely unmistakable sound. They tend to beat a hasty retreat. But the AK would be right up there on my list of desireable guns! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT but at least not the Kettle, pot, black Gary Hurst wrote: 1873 winchester repeating rifles. the guns that won the west. when the james-younger gang went to northfield, MN, to rob the bank, the locals met them with 1873 winchesters. guess who won that fight? sadly, lever action cavalry guns are no longer made under the winchester name. the tradition is hard to kill, though, and many continue to make them, most notably Marlin. lightweight, easy handling and very fast for their time (but not fast for today, so don't take your lever gun to shoot it out against gang bangers with full auto AK-47s), they remain today a very useful brush gun and are as good as anything at all inside of 100 yards. I suspect that it was the shooters and the circumstance, not the weapons, that made the difference in Northfield. Even given that a rifle has it all over a pistol for accuracy. The James-Younger gang rode into an ambush, IIRC, with the townspeople shooting from cover and picking them off easy as pie. And as for going against gang-bangers and their AKs with a winchester, it might be a workable proposition. I have known bangers and street dealers to go literally ballistic and spray goddamn near everything in the general vicinity with lead EXCEPT their intended target. [one such incident happened across the street from my flat in Detroit- a bunch of dimwits decided to rip off the local drug dealer- turned out to be a mistake as he was home. They went high-tailing it out the door with him close behind, and as the five of them scrambled to get into their Suzuki Samurai across the street, no more than twenty paces away, he emptied the clip of his 9mm at them. Hit one guy in the ass, every other shot missed.] So I am thinking an experienced meat-hunter with a lever-action, a good rest and a steady nerve could do fairly well against a gang-banger with an AK. It is after all not how much lead you put into the air but rather how much you put into your opponent that counts. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006
Re: [MBZ] Final warning before Kaleb cracks a mental
Good luck - it is a good book, but it didn't make me an expert -- Hendrik who is thinking about buying Probst's book on Bosch fuel injection.just so I am an expert and no one can tell me otherwise:-) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] OT - Old Rifles. was Kettle, pot, black, this is getting old real quick
So, where does the Winchester 94 fit in the scheme of things historical? On 10/25/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1873 winchester repeating rifles. the guns that won the west. when the james-younger gang went to northfield, MN, to rob the bank, the locals met them with 1873 winchesters. guess who won that fight? sadly, lever action cavalry guns are no longer made under the winchester name. the tradition is hard to kill, though, and many continue to make them, most notably Marlin. lightweight, easy handling and very fast for their time (but not fast for today, so don't take your lever gun to shoot it out against gang bangers with full auto AK-47s), they remain today a very useful brush gun and are as good as anything at all inside of 100 yards. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Gary's oil leak, was Final warning before entire list goes into
I always suspect the oil fliter mount to block gasket - sometimes I'm right, some times not. On 10/25/06, Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't tell from looking down into the engine compartment. We are going to have to get it in the air. But in 30 minutes he left a 1/2 quart puddle the size of a toaster oven. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
