Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure
There is no such thing as a 110 SEL, the finnie was MB's E class in the sixties and an ugly thing it was too. What where they smoking when they came up with that rear end. The S classes of the day (108/9) did have SEL models, which stands for super injected long. - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure Ok I am stumped. What's a W110 SEL in layperson's terms? What year?
Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 300TD's rear suspension struts
Euan wrote: Thanks Richard. Yes, I thought the silence was ominous. The replacement is necessary because our Warrant of Fitness authorities deem any leak of hydraulic fluid from suspension systems as an automatic 'FAIL'. Invoking Mercedes leak-tolerances falls on deaf ears. Worse still, the FAIL is registered nationally on the WOF computer system so that I cannot take the wagon elsewhere (a back-country mechanic, for instance) for a more sympathetic re-test. The lower strut mounts on my wagon are dripping hydraulic fluid, though the reservoir is not noticeably short of the stuff. The evidence suggests strongly that the struts are leaking. Having obtained replacements from Australia (a little closer than Rusty's supply shop), I'll be hugely irritated if the leaks originate elsewhere. The struts cost me $350 Australian ouch, (sorry, each). That scandalised SWMBO and brought conjugal access to an abrupt halt; but it was substantially better than the $NZ1100 each quoted here by the MB franchise in NZ. I don't have an MB service manual unfortunately. That's why I have to keep pestering you erstwhile chaps. This section of the service manual doesn't directly show what needs to be done, but there's enough information to be useful. http://www.bruckmann.com/32-501.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure
Ok, my bad, must have read the VIN wrong. On Jan 22, 2007, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Thank you, sir Kaleb. That is EXACTLY my point. A 280SE CANNOT be a W110, which is what got me started on this rant. Chuck, the only model that could be a W110 SE L is the extremely rare 1965 300SE Heckflosse sedan, provides they made it in a long wheelbase version. On 1/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 108 Redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/264921913.html Just like this one, but the trunk badge said 280sel On Jan 21, 2007, at 7:50 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Ok I am stumped. What's a W110 SEL in layperson's terms? What year? On 1/21/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: w110 sel with all shop records strewn about the cabin. Pulled model from the VIN. The shadow of the designation was all that was left on the trunk. 1972 I suspect, since the paper was more mush than legible. Stacked headlamps. On Jan 21, 2007, at 10:53 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: 280SE W116 perhaps? On 1/20/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally got out of the city and was able to hit the PnP. Hundreds of my closest pals had the same idea on this sunny day, so getting a wheelbarrow was out of the question. That kept the haul to a minimum. Found two Benz. Nice 1965 190D with engine still there and sheet metal looking great, but for the large rust patch on the driver door. Gutted interior, so not able to get much. Auto tranny. Really built like a tank compared to the sheet metal on Gump. The other is a 280sel (w110) that has rear quarter panel damage. Monkeys got in and tore the dash pad off, busted the locks so driver side door do not open and made off with the dash cluster and much that was not nailed down. Engine compartment is not touched. Brown leather seats and most of the wood looked great. I am trying to figure out if I should upgrade Gump with the nice door trim wood, or just offer that on eBay. Might give Gump some pizzazz. Really not sure I want to cut it to make it fit. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT: IPAQ wireless connection question
Me thinks you are combining my last comment about 'MB quality' and wives and kids with this one. I'm not quick enough for all that, but I always use a Compaq. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: IPAQ wireless connection question Do you have an exit strategy for withdrawing from IPAQ? Plan ahead. On 1/22/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In wireless mode is the router giving it an IP (sub)address? Is there a permission/request to set on either device to get them to recognize and communicate with one another, and to get outside? Sometimes, wifeless is a go-go. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (222k) '84 300D (219k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) '89 Audi 90Q (202k) '94 Audi 100CS Quattro Avant (117k) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheap but rusty 4 speed
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-MERCEDES-BENZ-240D-4-SPEED-WVO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ250076640084QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 00:24:55 2007 Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.200.85]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H99T5-0001zv-2j for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:24:55 + Received: from [192.168.1.6] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with ESMTP id 2007012300193901500miehte; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:19:39 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:19:30 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:24:55 - andrew strasfogel wrote: Thank you, sir Kaleb. That is EXACTLY my point. A 280SE CANNOT be a W110, which is what got me started on this rant. Chuck, the only model that could be a W110 SE L is the extremely rare 1965 300SE Heckflosse sedan, provides they made it in a long wheelbase version. Wrong - that would be a W112.015. See http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] 4 speed SLC
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-MANUAL-TRANS-NO-RESERVE-CA-4SPD-MANL-MB-280SLC-WHITE-BLACK-AC_W0QQitemZ170073340004QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 00:36:07 2007 Received: from pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.66]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H99du-0002Kg-S5 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:36:06 + Received: from user-11202ak.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.9.84] helo=OFFICE) by pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1H99Yp-0003hf-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:30:51 -0500 From: Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:30:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: Acc+gfhAUXocxKvpTZ+ABMEUaejJ0QAAt5ig Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:36:07 - You are speaking ill of my first MB, and the lady that saved my life in a head-on with a [deceased] drunk driver in a Camero. OK, so the fins weren't great, but the W111 220Sb was a nice car, if prettier from the front... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure There is no such thing as a 110 SEL, the finnie was MB's E class in the sixties and an ugly thing it was too. What where they smoking when they came up with that rear end. The S classes of the day (108/9) did have SEL models, which stands for super injected long. - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure Ok I am stumped. What's a W110 SEL in layperson's terms? What year? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vehicle Delivery question
Is there a North American analogue for the European delivery program (for those vehicles such as the GL's which are manufactured in the USA)? -j.
Re: [MBZ] B-17
LarryT wrote: Perhaps you know - weren't a large number of WW2 aircraft destroyed or sold for scrap in Europe following the war because is would have been too expensive to ship them back? Seems like I heard/read that somewhere. Makes sense. A lot of them were sold as scrap here too. Up to 1960 or so you could buy a P-51 for not much more than the intrinsic value of the metals. There was a guy here in the midwest who had many dozens of Merlin V-12s he'd bought for scrap in the 1950's. IIRC, when I saw him at a tractor pull when I was a teen, he was running three Merlins in a tractor. The Brits borrowed a lot of rifles from American civilians back then, with promises that serial numbers were recorded and they'd be returned as soon as the guns were no longer needed. Once Hitler was in the ground, the borrowed guns were smelted to help drive the recovery of British industry. About ten of them belonged to the father of a friend of mine. He's still bitter about it. I mean really bitter, like you'd loaned your 300SDL to a friend so he could drive to work and he sold it to a crusher for $100 and kept the money for himself. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] B-17
Nothing like turning nice Parker 12 gauges into Raleigh bicycles for export to kick start the old economy again. hee hee Zeb On 22/01/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT wrote: Perhaps you know - weren't a large number of WW2 aircraft destroyed or sold for scrap in Europe following the war because is would have been too expensive to ship them back? Seems like I heard/read that somewhere. Makes sense. A lot of them were sold as scrap here too. Up to 1960 or so you could buy a P-51 for not much more than the intrinsic value of the metals. There was a guy here in the midwest who had many dozens of Merlin V-12s he'd bought for scrap in the 1950's. IIRC, when I saw him at a tractor pull when I was a teen, he was running three Merlins in a tractor. The Brits borrowed a lot of rifles from American civilians back then, with promises that serial numbers were recorded and they'd be returned as soon as the guns were no longer needed. Once Hitler was in the ground, the borrowed guns were smelted to help drive the recovery of British industry. About ten of them belonged to the father of a friend of mine. He's still bitter about it. I mean really bitter, like you'd loaned your 300SDL to a friend so he could drive to work and he sold it to a crusher for $100 and kept the money for himself. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iSCAN
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote: John - Startech07 is 18-21 May, with most of the classroom session on Saturday. On Friday evening, they are planning a bus ride from Reston up to Dundalk for an evening tour of the Vehicle Prep Center, and then a follow-on dinner at Phillips before riding back to Reston Town Center. Monday they plan on going over to Summit Point for a run at the track. Again, check out the GWS web site for more info. Werner Cool :) Reston Town Center, thats off of VA602 just north of VA267 (Greenway/Toll Road, right?).. If you go north a couple of more lights there is a big shopping center with a Best Buy in it, and in one corner is a chain french resturant La Madeline (which isn't too bad for a chain). I've eaten more than one lunch there! I think I have driven home from there on autopilot... There are a couple of pool halls around there too, There is one called the Carpool Wax (IIRC) which is a smoking establishment with a good deal of character... Lots of old signage including a couple of sets of Burma-Shave signs. Over at the Clock Tower called Breakers (Whatever exit 10 off VA267 is, go south to Sunset Valley and it is on the southeast side of the intersection... I think if you take a jaunt up to Exit 7 (Ashburn) there is the Old Dominion brew pub :) -j.
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, andrew strasfogel wrote: I get Delvac at Advance Auto Parts reasonably cheaply ($7.25??) in the 4 qt. jugs. Theres Delvac 1300 (or whatever) which is dino lube, then there is Delvac-1 which is full synthetic (Mobil 1 for heavy duty diesels)... At $7.25 a gallon I'll bet its the dino version -j.
Re: [MBZ] 4 speed SLC
Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170073340004 Why can't people give eBay their proper city and state so the listing says the item is in San Diego, CA instead of eur, United States? Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] OT: IPAQ wireless connection question
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Zeitgeist wrote: Do you have an exit strategy for withdrawing from IPAQ? Plan ahead. If you want a computer that works, just, choose Microsoft If you want a computer that works, just choose (Linux|OSX) now when they make a PDA, I'll look into it, otherwise you will pry my Palm from my cold dead hands! -j.
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
John W. Reames III wrote: Theres Delvac 1300 (or whatever) which is dino lube, then there is Delvac-1 which is full synthetic (Mobil 1 for heavy duty diesels)... At $7.25 a gallon I'll bet its the dino version If it isn't, I'll take 1,000 gallons for $7250. When people complain that Mobil doesn't seem to want them to be able to buy its oils, I can understand why Berryman became an Amsoil dealer. I bet he'd ship you four gallons for $80-100, if he's not busy doing FEMA duty.
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
Ralph - the question was where to get Mobil-1/Delvac-1 - not some no-name dino oil. It always comes to what's more important - the engine longevity, ease of starting, etc., or saving a few bucks on oil. Metal always costs more than oil! Werner - Original Message - From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) A midwest chain called Murray's carries the Turbo Diesel 5W-40. I also saw it for the first time a few weeks back at my local Auto Zone in the Detroit suburbs. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Vehicle Delivery question
John - that's something that used to be available, I'm told, and then they stopped all such things when they expanded the factory. I was informed today that factory tours, although not yet advertised, are being booked; perhaps factory delivery may also come back. A good dealer should be able to give you the latest info, too. Werner - Original Message - From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] Vehicle Delivery question Is there a North American analogue for the European delivery program (for those vehicles such as the GL's which are manufactured in the USA)? -j.
Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 300TD's rear suspension struts
You dont disconnect them thru the spring. They have a cover you remove from inside the car to get at the fittings. Karl Wittnebel wrote: Hardest part is disconnecting the hydraulic fittings through the spring. PITA. Otherwise torx head bolt under the carpet in the rear, just behind rear seat where it folds down. Removal from A-arm is simple. These rarely go bad. Make sure it is not your pump, the check valve, the ride height sensor arm, or the air reservoir things. you can rebuild the valve for next to nothing. There are a bunch of posts on how to test the system. You can even replace the ball joints on the bottom of each cylinder with a special tool, as they sometimes go bad before the rest of the unit. Karl Wittnebel -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
Werner, Sorry for not being specific enough for you. I assumed the list would understand by what I meant when I referred by name to the stuff most of us have been seeking. I was referring to Mobil 1 5W-40 Turbo Diesel Truck oil - not some no-name dino oil. I have read on this list that this is very similar to Delvac 1. No offense taken. ;) Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) Ralph - the question was where to get Mobil-1/Delvac-1 - not some no-name dino oil. It always comes to what's more important - the engine longevity, ease of starting, etc., or saving a few bucks on oil. Metal always costs more than oil! Werner - Original Message - From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) A midwest chain called Murray's carries the Turbo Diesel 5W-40. I also saw it for the first time a few weeks back at my local Auto Zone in the Detroit suburbs. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Computechie Question
Open a command prompt, (Start, run, type cmd and hit enter), then type ping www.amazon.com without the quotes to see if your PC will resolve the DNS name (www.amazon.com) to an IP address (which is what the PC is really using to find the site). It should look something like: C:\ping www.amazon.com Pinging www.amazon.com [72.21.203.1] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Don't worry about the request timed out - those sites won't respond to pings, but you should get the IP address: [72.21.203.1]. It might not be this one - they often have several. If you don't get an IP address, something other than the browser is at fault. Claering the DNS cache would be the next step -- which I don't remember how to do --- On 1/22/07, Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings and Salutations. On my browsers:- current Forefox former:=IE. I cannot seem to get some root url's. i.e. www.amazon.com and ebay.com can't get the server. ebaymotors,com is OK and anything down from the root seems to be OK also. Any ideas? It is probably some dumb finger trouble or other. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta on! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT: Psychological Insights Today
I suspect that the damage has already been done - you might as well stay --- On 1/22/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David supplied answers to problems that have vexed me for a long time, since college and when I started driving. This list is cool, but I am thinking I had better stop hanging around it. --R (spiraling around the MB cash drain) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 300TD's rear suspension struts
I'm in the process of pulling a set as we speak, if anyone is interested. I've had no takers on my abandoned wagon fix so the parting out process is moving full force ahead. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 300TD's rear suspension struts You dont disconnect them thru the spring. They have a cover you remove from inside the car to get at the fittings. Karl Wittnebel wrote: Hardest part is disconnecting the hydraulic fittings through the spring. PITA. Otherwise torx head bolt under the carpet in the rear, just behind rear seat where it folds down. Removal from A-arm is simple. These rarely go bad. Make sure it is not your pump, the check valve, the ride height sensor arm, or the air reservoir things. you can rebuild the valve for next to nothing. There are a bunch of posts on how to test the system. You can even replace the ball joints on the bottom of each cylinder with a special tool, as they sometimes go bad before the rest of the unit. Karl Wittnebel -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
Ralph - no offense, but I have never seen any container of full synthetic Mobil1 with the word Turbo on it - it might exist, but I've not seen it. What I do recall is that the Mobil1 fully synthetic Truck and SUV oil is chemically identical to Delvac1 oil. That's why I assumed that something with the name of turbo on the label sounded very suspect, to me. Also, IIRC, both the TruckSUV and Delvac1 only come in 15W-40 in most areas. Dr. Booth will no doubt correct us if that's incorrect. Werner - Original Message - From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) Werner, Sorry for not being specific enough for you. I assumed the list would understand by what I meant when I referred by name to the stuff most of us have been seeking. I was referring to Mobil 1 5W-40 Turbo Diesel Truck oil - not some no-name dino oil. I have read on this list that this is very similar to Delvac 1. No offense taken. ;) Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] B-17
There was a P-38 that was only missing the engines at a salvage yard/airport (Page Field in Yukon, OK) here in the early 60's. Dad bought a torn up D-18 for scrap to make a camper. I begged him to buy the P-38 also, but he didn't. about 10 years later, the Confederate Air Force came through town, and had that same P-38 in the show. My Dad will never live that one down! Makes sense. A lot of them were sold as scrap here too. Up to 1960 or so you could buy a P-51 for not much more than the intrinsic value of the metals. There was a guy here in the midwest who had many dozens of Merlin V-12s he'd bought for scrap in the 1950's. IIRC, when I saw him at a tractor pull when I was a teen, he was running three Merlins in a tractor. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT: IPAQ wireless connection question
I'm with you in spirit on the Linux, but am an old dog with one computer I use for fun and what little work I do linked to another that my 90 YO mom-in-law uses for contacting the world. I'll probably just keep it as it is. What I like about the IPAQ is how much help it was when my wife spent so much time recovering in hospitals and I spent so much time in hospital and M.D. waiting rooms. I have an expansion pack and a small Sony earphone set up. My IPAQ has 3 or 4 full length movies [with 50 - 60 more on cd's for regular swapping], about 150 books, Word, Excel, Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, about 20 games [Monopoly is my favorite], and crossword puzzles. I can write on the screen and it converts to type, and it would also read the novels to me if I want [though the audio book versions are better, so I took that off]. Great when I used to travel - now an old friend. When I started with a Cassiopeia E-125 the Palm wasn't much, now I understand it is. I'd like to get the wireless to work, but more for something to do than a real need, so I'll put in a few hours on it, then just let it go if I can't get it. Thanks to the list I now have a couple of starting spots. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John W. Reames III Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: IPAQ wireless connection question On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Zeitgeist wrote: Do you have an exit strategy for withdrawing from IPAQ? Plan ahead. If you want a computer that works, just, choose Microsoft If you want a computer that works, just choose (Linux|OSX) now when they make a PDA, I'll look into it, otherwise you will pry my Palm from my cold dead hands! -j. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Computechie Question
Clear the ARP cache maybe? arp -d -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:27:57 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Computechie Question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Open a command prompt, (Start, run, type cmd and hit enter), then type ping www.amazon.com without the quotes to see if your PC will resolve the DNS name (www.amazon.com) to an IP address (which is what the PC is really using to find the site). It should look something like: C:\ping www.amazon.com Pinging www.amazon.com [72.21.203.1] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Don't worry about the request timed out - those sites won't respond to pings, but you should get the IP address: [72.21.203.1]. It might not be this one - they often have several. If you don't get an IP address, something other than the browser is at fault. Claering the DNS cache would be the next step -- which I don't remember how to do --- - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 02:54:48 2007 Received: from web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.37]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H9Bo8-0006VX-28 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:54:48 + Received: (qmail 48838 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2007 02:49:32 - X-YMail-OSG: rQ0bZBYVM1m06gthau7sEyOCV_jXQ55gvzJOAtSfd2_pyy7Y.COXF74SkmWsGNbDEk6hntv0Dt.v3meCTaBc5cGBUTXNXpGbMd3lwevu4v8oii6.E8g- Received: from [66.234.237.10] by web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:49:32 PST Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:49:32 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:54:48 - You're out of date Werner. Mobil 1 TruckSUV is now 5w30, been that way for a year or two. Turbo Diesel Truck is the 5w40 http://mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.aspx Anybody needing Mobil 1 should know that 15w50 is the next best. I've found a good supply at the Wal-Mart in Rindge, NH. You want some drop me a line and I'll give you a quote... -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:35:27 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Ralph - no offense, but I have never seen any container of full synthetic Mobil1 with the word Turbo on it - it might exist, but I've not seen it. What I do recall is that the Mobil1 fully synthetic Truck and SUV oil is chemically identical to Delvac1 oil. That's why I assumed that something with the name of turbo on the label sounded very suspect, to me. Also, IIRC, both the TruckSUV and Delvac1 only come in 15W-40 in most areas. Dr. Booth will no doubt correct us if that's incorrect. Werner - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 03:01:14 2007 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H9BuM-0006i1-1b for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:01:14 + Received: from hannah (c-68-61-93-29.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.61.93.29]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id 20070123025558m1400jihdbe; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:55:58 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/
Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.aspx
There was a Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W40, but that has been replaced
with by the Turbo 5w40, and the truck and SUV becomes a 5w30...
See
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/
Mobil1_Truck_SUV_5W30.aspx
The mercedes product service guide says for 2005 and onward these are
only approved for AMG vehicles and only the 5w40 for diesels made in
2007
via sheet 229.51
Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/
GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_ESP_Formula_M_5W-40.asp#ProductDescriptionTitle
{Likely delvac 5w40} I did read somewhere that mercedes is the only
supplier of the M1 ESP Formula M 5W40 in the USA because of demand...
Mobil 1 SuperSyn European Car Formula 0W-40
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-40.asp
{Likely 0w40}
On Jan 22, 2007, at 6:35 PM, Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Ralph - no offense, but I have never seen any container of full
synthetic
Mobil1 with the word Turbo on it - it might exist, but I've not
seen it.
What I do recall is that the Mobil1 fully synthetic Truck and SUV
oil is
chemically identical to Delvac1 oil. That's why I assumed that
something
with the name of turbo on the label sounded very suspect, to me.
Also,
IIRC, both the TruckSUV and Delvac1 only come in 15W-40 in most
areas.
Dr. Booth will no doubt correct us if that's incorrect.
Werner
John
1983 300TDt 374k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt 184k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] OT: IPAQ wireless connection question
Do you have an exit strategy for withdrawing from IPAQ? Plan ahead. My plan for that is about as solid as his is ... BillR
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
Yes, I could certainly be out of date, since I usually buy about 8 gallons at a time, and that lasts a couple of years for me. Actually, I thought the TruckSUV Mobil1 had disappeared with their last change, since it disappeared from local shelves. But I suspect that Delvac1 will be around a bit longer, as real truckers don't seem to have such short attention spans as car drivers seem to have - hence the maketeers at Exxon-Mobil with their constantly changing numbers and bottle shapes and colors. Also, note that the advertising says that the TruckSUV is for gasoline engines, Diesels don't seem to be included. Anyway, I wouldn't want 5W-30 in my Diesel unless I lived somewhere North of Calgary. I like the idea of 15W-40 standing up to the temperatures and pressures on my engines! Some of us old-timers remember the gas crunch days of the 70s, when the car manufacturers figured out that by using thinner oils, they could save a few horsepower, and hence improve mileage. I believe the trend to 0W and 5W oils is rooted in this concept, which is a good idea as long as you get rid of the car before it gets too many miles on it. The manufacturers have a vested interest in getting people to buy new cars - not keep them for 20-30 years! Using too thin and oil was a big part of the downfall of GM and their 5.7 V-8 Diesel - GM said to use straight 30W, and the gas stations put in 10W-40! It had to be better, because it cost more, right? WRONG! Werner - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) You're out of date Werner. Mobil 1 TruckSUV is now 5w30, been that way for a year or two. Turbo Diesel Truck is the 5w40 http://mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.aspx Anybody needing Mobil 1 should know that 15w50 is the next best. I've found a good supply at the Wal-Mart in Rindge, NH. You want some drop me a line and I'll give you a quote... -Curt
[MBZ] Insurance ratings by car
Some interesting comparisons between different cars - broken out into liability, safety, and damage (collision costs). http://moneycentral.msn.com/insure/autorisk.aspx?Make=MERCEDES-BENZ It looks like the wagons don't fair as well as the sedans. Surprisingly, the Corvette is the only Chevy to get a A rating in liability! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] GL ex-works
Is there a North American analogue for the European delivery program (for those vehicles such as the GL's which are manufactured in the USA)? People do take factory ML deliveries so maybe... RLE
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1
Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They kept the Truck and SUV name and use it for 5W-30 gas engine oil I believe. I have seen both side by side. I also believe that I am one of the few list members to have actually seen this repacked oil. It has been discussed on this list in the past. Precisely. It seems that every time I go to buy Mobil-1 I have to very carefully read the labels because what used to be is no longer the same. Mobil-1 TSUV was originally the same as Delvac-1. Then it changed to a 5W-30 that is not diesel rated. The 15w-50 became scarce as a snowman in Florida at about the same time. I've *never* seen Delvac-1, or the new Turbo Diesel Mobil-1 in *any* local Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Sams, AutoZone, Advance Auto, Pep-Boys, etc and believe me I've looked. I gave up and went back to Cheveron Delo which is easy to find, comes in gallon jugs, and is good for a dino oil. But I'm missing the Mobil-1 on cold mornings Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
[MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
Hi All, We have a new arrival - she looks great, is healthy, responsive, and pumpkin orange. A 74 240D, very clean, and the heater blower fan works! A fitting replacement for the 79 240D that we sent to a warm and deserving home on Marrowstone Island. A new thermostat was needed, as well as a slug of oil in the air filter and a fresh change of M1. But after I changed the oil, something made me stop and think. The new car lacks the plastic oil filter screen and shaft spring in the oil filter housing that is on my daughter's 75 240D. Is this standard for the 74, or do I call Rusty tomorrow and order parts? And what happened to skinnerbox.steaky.org? (Yes, I've been AWOL for some time) Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 348kmi 'His' 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi FNULNU 73 220D 'It' - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 03:57:47 2007 Received: from odin.envisagenow.com ([12.2.42.104]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H9Cn5-0008GA-Ac for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:57:47 + Received: from STREIB ([12.2.42.59]) by odin.envisagenow.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:53:29 -0500 Received: by STREIB (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:52:31 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:52:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (OK Don's message of Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:27:57 -0600) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2007 03:53:29.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B0835E0:01C73EA2] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Computechie Question X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:57:47 - OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you don't get an IP address, something other than the browser is at fault. Clearing the DNS cache would be the next step -- which I don't remember how to do --- ipconfig /flushdns Also check your hosts file, some evil programs are known to modify this which can send your browser to a forged site. For most folks, the hosts file should contain the following: 127.0.0.1 localhost There may be some preamble comments (# being the first character on the line). A good idea to make the hosts file read-only if it is not already so. The hosts file would normally be in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\ You might have WINNT instead of WINDOWS as the first directory. You can also write your own hosts file to block most banner ads and other annoyances, info at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm. Note that if you do this, it can render some advertising links nonfunctional (such as the premium links that show up on the right-hand side of a Google search). Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] OT: IPAQ wireless connection question
You *MUST* get a copy of bejewelled. oh and extended batteries. =) -j.
Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:48:30 -0800 (PST) B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new car lacks the plastic oil filter screen and shaft spring in the oil filter housing that is on my daughter's 75 240D. Is this standard for the 74, or do I call Rusty tomorrow and order parts? Call Rusty and order parts. Without those parts, the filter is doing nothing. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Track Time and MBCA events
John, Werner is right on.. MBCA has lots to offer from building friendships and camaraderie to going out on a track and doing a true Italian Tune Up. and lots of stuff in between. Go for it! As the saying goes A chance to drive Fast Legally!. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ MBCA Director at Large On Jan 22, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Werner Fehlauer wrote: John - IMO, everyone that enjoys M-B cars or even their history is missing something if not a member of the club. Turns out that most join just for the magazine, but there are enough people with specific interests that are enjoyable (for the most part) to follow or participate with in events. Event costs vary, depending on whether you are helping rent track time, enjoying a good dinner, or just attending a show and tell. I've seen everything from free (admittedly rare nowadays) to several hundred dollars, such as Starfest, where we have 3 days of track time, 2 banquets and a reception. Here in South Jersey, we try to have a few $5 dollar events, where we make a buck or two for the section and contribute the rest to a charity for things like going to the Philly auto show, or a small tech event at an indy shop. You just should keep taking a look at the various web sites, starting with www.mbca.org, which can lead you to special events and also section web sites. In your case, checking in on www.gws-mbca.org would make sense. Werner - Original Message - From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Track Time On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote: John - keep checking on dates through the GWS-MBCA.org web site. In addition to their well-attended autocross series, they are planning a day at Summit Point on 21 May, plus of course Tri-O-Rama in September time frame. They also share track time with the Porsche and BMW folks when they can. Yes, even Diesels can be fun on a good road course. A few years back, I discovered that there was indeed a rev limiter in the IP on my '90 2.5 while running at V.I.R. - when doing the 3-4 shift on the long back straight! Cool. How much do such events usually cost? (I should fork out the money and join MBCA now that I am an exclusivewly klatta klatta fleet :) -j. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Psychological Insights Today
Rich Thomas wrote: David supplied answers to problems that have vexed me for a long time, since college and when I started driving. My engineering degree makes me well qualified to make blind guesses about psychological matters. ;)
Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
74 240D 79kmi FNULNU What is FNULNU? Nice to see you back on the list again! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile
-Original Message- From: John Robbins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2007 06:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile Peter Merle wrote: To ask a furthur question - what shapes the maximum injection stoke volume vs rpm at these pumps. As I understand it compensation for volumetric efficiency vs rpm needs to be taken account so that at low speed and at hig speed the maximum injection charge is lower than at mid range rpm due to rereduced volumetric efficeincy. Let me make sure I understand what you're asking real quick. :) On the volumetric efficiency vs RPM are you talking about the amount of available air for combustion inside the cylinder based on RPM (things like boost and/or losses changing that over the RPM band)? If thats the case, then the amount of injected fuel (injection charge?) does have different limits across the RPM range. The reason for it is that if you start injecting too much fuel you will start generating clouds of black smoke (partially burned fuel). I have a graph in a Bosch tech book that shows the max injected volume vs RPM and it does do what you describe. I can post that if you would like that extra verification :) As to HOW thats done that is where the complicated part (IMO) of our governors come into play. In the governor used on the MW pumps I believe it is called torque control. There are very few people who truly understand exactly how it works (and how to change it), and I am certainly NOT one of them. If you are interested in learning more about how IPs work I'd highly suggest this book It talks about all kinds of IPs and how the governors work, etc. As well as a fairly detailed overview of diesel combustion, etc. I sure enjoyed reading it and learned a lot :) http://www.boschtechinfo.com/index.cfm?event=product.searchkeyword=1%20 987%20723%20602 John '79 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1
I agree. Wish that could be more standardized. Wonder if they don't consistently sell enough to do so? Brian On 1/22/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They kept the Truck and SUV name and use it for 5W-30 gas engine oil I believe. I have seen both side by side. I also believe that I am one of the few list members to have actually seen this repacked oil. It has been discussed on this list in the past. Precisely. It seems that every time I go to buy Mobil-1 I have to very carefully read the labels because what used to be is no longer the same. Mobil-1 TSUV was originally the same as Delvac-1. Then it changed to a 5W-30 that is not diesel rated. The 15w-50 became scarce as a snowman in Florida at about the same time. I've *never* seen Delvac-1, or the new Turbo Diesel Mobil-1 in *any* local Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Sams, AutoZone, Advance Auto, Pep-Boys, etc and believe me I've looked. I gave up and went back to Cheveron Delo which is easy to find, comes in gallon jugs, and is good for a dino oil. But I'm missing the Mobil-1 on cold mornings Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bluetec word used in place of Diesel?
The original 260D ( 1936) owners manuals mentions ... smokeless exhaust and the smooth runing of the engine - so I guess nothing has changed :) PEter -Original Message- From: Zoltan Finks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2007 07:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bluetec word used in place of Diesel? Yes, the quiet and smokeless operation and the lack of identifying badges makes me think of another point:
Re: [MBZ] Track Time and MBCA events
Yeah! I want to see how fast those E300Dt can go! :) :) Normally for an italian tuneup, I'd head out past Hagerstown (towards Deep Creek Lake) on I-70 and get really leadfooted. I've seen more than one BIG ball of black smoke belch forth from the rear of the car doing that... They seem to make a difference and I drive a lot of highway miles! -j. -- John Reames 1985 300d (223K Gerta) 1991 Cherokee (149K the fishbowl) 1999 E300Dt (140K Hans) 1999 E300Dt (106K Frantz) -- Original message -- From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Werner is right on.. MBCA has lots to offer from building friendships and camaraderie to going out on a track and doing a true Italian Tune Up. and lots of stuff in between. Go for it! As the saying goes A chance to drive Fast Legally!. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 12:49:00 2007 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H9L5A-0005Dp-LT for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:49:00 + Received: from rmailcenter06.comcast.net ([204.127.197.116]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id 20070123124342m1200330i3e; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:43:42 + Received: from [208.27.111.119] by rmailcenter06.comcast.net; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:43:41 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:43:41 + Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ATT Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: andyZWFtZXNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Psychological Insights Today X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:49:00 - Ah! I see you haven't had your glass bellybutton installed yet! ;) -j. -- John Reames 1985 300d (223K Gerta) 1991 Cherokee (149K the fishbowl) 1999 E300Dt (140K Hans) 1999 E300Dt (106K Frantz) -- Original message -- From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] My engineering degree makes me well qualified to make blind guesses about psychological matters. ;) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 13:45:02 2007 Received: from web52713.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.48.236]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H9LxN-0006Rt-C3 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:45:02 + Received: (qmail 55287 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2007 13:39:42 - X-YMail-OSG: 44kzPVgVM1kgpmicgsZ6H0Xsr4x2QtiZ4tSIw0Vo Received: from [204.116.66.45] by web52713.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:39:42 PST Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:39:42 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 300TD's rear suspension struts X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:45:03 - Thank you Marshall. This is exactly the PDF I was going to send Euan by private email last night. However, I went to sleep before ever getting it done. Richard Mercedesless in Morgan Township --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Euan wrote: Thanks Richard. Yes, I thought the silence was ominous. The replacement is necessary because our Warrant of Fitness authorities deem any leak of hydraulic fluid from suspension systems as an automatic 'FAIL'. Invoking Mercedes
Re: [MBZ] OT House Build Quality
I like, Rich! I know just how much work old houses can be, but there's still a charm there you just don't get with new construction. I can look ath the quality of changes in my house and date pretty acurately when they were done just be looking at the quality of materials used and the skill with which they were executed. Unfortunately, I bought mine from a guy who had a son working at Home Depot. Many of his improvements just didn't meet with the style of the original. Only interesting thing I ever found was a 1917 copy of the Taylor newspaper wrapped around some old terra cotta pots in the crawl space under the house. No porn :^( Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 1913 Arts and Crafts Bungalow (National Register Easley/Raper Home) On 1/17/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I restored/renovated a 100 yr old Victorian, and while it was a very nice house, and well-built, when they say, They don't build 'em like they used to that ain't always a bad thing! I found lots of shortcuts in my house, when I opened up walls and stuff, from when it was originally built. And the upgrades over the years looked like they were done by cheap morons, which I am sure was the case. I did find some interesting porn stuck in the floorboards from a 50s bathroom redo, and some from maybe the 60s in another wall . Too funny. Most of it was no worse than today's newspaper. I found some original 1884 newspapers from when the house was built. Classified ads (Boston paper) were looking for (under separate headings) Italian girls (Catholic), Irish girls [Catholic/Protestant] . Some general ads specified No Irish and No Negroes but Italians generally seemed acceptable unless otherwise specified. Kinda shows what the pecking order was then. If anyone is interested, here is my web site chronicle of the transformation http://www.constructivity.net/victorian_restoration.htm --R
Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
In a message dated 1/22/2007 8:50:01 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have a new arrival - she looks great, is healthy, responsive, and pumpkin orange. A 74 240D, very clean, and the heater blower fan works! A fitting replacement for the 79 240D that we sent to a warm and deserving home on Marrowstone Island. A new thermostat was needed, as well as a slug of oil in the air filter and a fresh change of M1. But after I changed the oil, something made me stop and think. The new car lacks the plastic oil filter screen and shaft spring in the oil filter housing that is on my daughter's 75 240D. Is this standard for the 74, or do I call Rusty tomorrow and order parts? And what happened to skinnerbox.steaky.org? (Yes, I've been AWOL for some time) Bruce, As mentioned, your existing filter is being bypassed without the pre filter and spring. I hated the cleaning of that prefilter but it sure did serve a purpose, in addition to holding the main filter in place. skinnerbox.steaky and the other list were asked to cease their public offerings. Try _http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html_ (http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html) Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 147 K miles 74 240D, 247K when sold
[MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)
Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole). This was my spare and was only used a couple times. It is great to mount a snow tire on and the other one on your spare. Easy to switch tires in bad weather and back to regular tires in good weather. Or, as I did, put chains on my two spares. Its easer to change tires that to put chains on. Check on what a new one costs. I'm asking $65 Shipping weight is 15 lbs E-mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://webmaila.juno.com/webmail/new/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://webmaila.juno.com/webmail/new/for details and/or picture -- -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3904 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070123/394f6095/attachment.bin
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:49 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 070122 2.430 2.421 2.582 2.525 2.361 2.371 2.361 2.586 2.695 2.742 070115 2.463 2.437 2.622 2.559 2.368 2.408 2.391 2.625 2.749 2.773 070108 2.537 2.520 2.672 2.633 2.458 2.483 2.459 2.682 2.824 2.856 070101 2.580 2.565 2.710 2.681 2.503 2.534 2.500 2.697 2.853 2.883 061225 2.596 2.587 2.737 2.710 2.520 2.550 2.514 2.713 2.856 2.885 061218 2.606 2.599 2.730 2.722 2.535 2.555 2.519 2.716 2.887 2.917 061211 2.621 2.610 2.749 2.730 2.546 2.563 2.540 2.724 2.931 2.963 061204 2.618 2.610 2.716 2.717 2.555 2.578 2.537 2.707 2.860 2.860 061127 2.567 2.537 2.634 2.652 2.479 2.554 2.490 2.680 2.760 2.710 061120 2.553 2.521 2.625 2.638 2.461 2.554 2.469 2.647 2.724 2.690 061113 2.552 2.530 2.616 2.643 2.473 2.562 2.470 2.623 2.673 2.677 061106 2.506 2.508 2.613 2.628 2.448 2.493 2.449 2.577 2.606 2.637 061030 2.517 2.530 2.629 2.646 2.472 2.501 2.462 2.577 2.602 2.645 061023 2.524 2.537 2.636 2.651 2.480 2.502 2.477 2.563 2.628 2.669 061016 2.503 2.521 2.623 2.636 2.462 2.459 2.461 2.539 2.655 2.703 061009 2.506 2.533 2.649 2.654 2.471 2.448 2.446 2.584 2.697 2.751 061002 2.546 2.567 2.678 2.694 2.503 2.467 2.490 2.679 2.789 2.835 060925 2.595 2.600 2.730 2.746 2.526 2.506 2.526 2.827 2.892 2.910 060918 2.713 2.699 2.832 2.844 2.625 2.624 2.636 3.052 3.014 3.002 060911 2.857 2.826 2.955 2.958 2.757 2.787 2.770 3.236 3.137 3.125 060904 2.967 2.911 3.009 3.032 2.850 2.937 2.872 3.318 3.199 3.175 060828 3.027 2.955 3.035 3.074 2.897 3.026 2.923 3.346 3.229 3.200 060821 3.033 2.953 3.049 3.078 2.890 3.041 2.923 3.349 3.237 3.221 060814 3.065 3.017 3.077 3.130 2.964 3.065 2.974 3.311 3.218 3.220 060807 3.055 3.026 3.061 3.104 2.989 3.070 2.988 3.208 3.113 3.130 060731 2.980 2.958 2.991 3.030 2.924 2.988 2.925 3.052 3.066 3.093 060724 2.946 2.925 2.972 3.002 2.888 2.951 2.895 2.987 3.047 3.097 060717 2.926 2.906 2.970 2.992 2.864 2.927 2.868 2.960 3.051 3.097 060710 2.918 2.887 2.947 2.963 2.849 2.919 2.866 2.966 3.060 3.113 060703 2.898 2.874 2.948 2.951 2.834 2.887 2.845 2.958 3.056 3.119 060626 2.867 2.864 2.952 2.956 2.816 2.819 2.822 2.960 3.068 3.140 060619 2.915 2.907 2.960 2.990 2.867 2.873 2.859 3.018 3.117 3.185 060612 2.918 2.909 2.979 2.997 2.866 2.874 2.848 3.041 3.149 3.217 060605 2.890 2.881 2.969 2.992 2.825 2.837 2.805 3.043 3.159 3.227 060529 2.882 2.873 2.966 2.987 2.815 2.824 2.798 3.044 3.161 3.227 060522 2.888 2.877 2.982 2.987 2.820 2.836 2.801 3.024 3.175 3.234 060515 2.920 2.907 3.003 3.014 2.853 2.870 2.829 3.074 3.192 3.242 060508 2.897 2.884 2.972 2.983 2.834 2.841 2.814 3.054 3.180 3.244 060501 2.896 2.892 2.979 2.987 2.843 2.853 2.832 3.012 3.098 3.163 060424 2.876 2.888 2.961 2.978 2.843 2.847 2.817 2.903 3.026 3.103 060417 2.765 2.788 2.865 2.876 2.743 2.735 2.725 2.756 2.881 2.933 060410 2.654 2.676 2.769 2.767 2.629 2.614 2.601 2.680 2.812 2.881 060403 2.617 2.639
Re: [MBZ] cheap but rusty 4 speed
That's the kind of rusty that whispers blow on me and I will disintegrate. On 1/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-MERCEDES-BENZ-240D-4-SPEED-WVO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ250076640084QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4 speed SLC
Ebay should require a geographic location specific enough to track down crooks and their ilk. On 1/22/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170073340004 Why can't people give eBay their proper city and state so the listing says the item is in San Diego, CA instead of eur, United States? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4 speed SLC
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ebay should require a geographic location specific enough to track down crooks and their ilk. But they'd lose so much business. Friend of mine calls eBay the world's biggest fence Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
get the plastic pre-filter - without it, actual filtering of the oil isn't happening. On 1/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/22/2007 8:50:01 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have a new arrival - she looks great, is healthy, responsive, and pumpkin orange. A 74 240D, very clean, and the heater blower fan works! A fitting replacement for the 79 240D that we sent to a warm and deserving home on Marrowstone Island. A new thermostat was needed, as well as a slug of oil in the air filter and a fresh change of M1. But after I changed the oil, something made me stop and think. The new car lacks the plastic oil filter screen and shaft spring in the oil filter housing that is on my daughter's 75 240D. Is this standard for the 74, or do I call Rusty tomorrow and order parts? And what happened to skinnerbox.steaky.org? (Yes, I've been AWOL for some time) Bruce, As mentioned, your existing filter is being bypassed without the pre filter and spring. I hated the cleaning of that prefilter but it sure did serve a purpose, in addition to holding the main filter in place. skinnerbox.steaky and the other list were asked to cease their public offerings. Try _http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html_ (http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html) Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 147 K miles 74 240D, 247K when sold ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1
OK, it seems I need to refresh my own memory a bit on Delvac-1. So here's the correct, current info: http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENCVLMOMobil_Delvac_1_5W-40.asp Werner '90D '83SD - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They kept the Truck and SUV name and use it for 5W-30 gas engine oil I believe. I have seen both side by side. I also believe that I am one of the few list members to have actually seen this repacked oil. It has been discussed on this list in the past. Precisely. It seems that every time I go to buy Mobil-1 I have to very carefully read the labels because what used to be is no longer the same. Mobil-1 TSUV was originally the same as Delvac-1. Then it changed to a 5W-30 that is not diesel rated. The 15w-50 became scarce as a snowman in Florida at about the same time. I've *never* seen Delvac-1, or the new Turbo Diesel Mobil-1 in *any* local Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Sams, AutoZone, Advance Auto, Pep-Boys, etc and believe me I've looked. I gave up and went back to Cheveron Delo which is easy to find, comes in gallon jugs, and is good for a dino oil. But I'm missing the Mobil-1 on cold mornings Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
OK, is this spring and plastic pre-filter something unique to the older
240D? Either I missed it, or at least I didn't see such a thing on any of
my 126 SDs ('83 and '84) nor my '90D (602).
Werner
- Original Message -
From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
get the plastic pre-filter - without it, actual filtering of the oil isn't
happening.
On 1/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/22/2007 8:50:01 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have a new arrival - she looks great, is healthy, responsive, and
pumpkin
orange. A 74 240D, very clean, and the heater blower fan
works! A fitting
replacement for the 79 240D that we sent to a warm and deserving home on
Marrowstone Island.
A new thermostat was needed, as well as a slug of oil in the air filter
and
a fresh change of M1. But after I changed the oil, something made me
stop
and think. The new car lacks the plastic oil filter screen and shaft
spring in
the oil filter housing that is on my daughter's 75 240D. Is this
standard
for the 74, or do I call Rusty tomorrow and order parts?
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1
On Jan 23, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Werner Fehlauer wrote: OK, it seems I need to refresh my own memory a bit on Delvac-1. So here's the correct, current info: http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/ GLXXENCVLMOMobil_Delvac_1_5W-40.asp Werner '90D '83SD I'll remind folks that we assume if it's not on the shelf, or on the store's internet site then it must not exist. I've always found it helpful to bother the senior staff person and ask if they can order said product, many times they've have to dig out their paper catalog, (or internal computer system) and say: Oh yes we can order that, how many jugs would you like? I can appreciate this won't work for the Big Box Stores, but certainly works for any auto-supply shop... Western Canadian readers might note I do this to order Diesel Purge from LordCo auto-supply, because I figured out the Canadian distributor for LiquiMoly was a supplier to LordCo, so although it's not on the shelf, I made them look it up in the supplier's catalog, which ended discussion about we don't carry it on the shelf. John 1983 300TDt 375k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 184k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)
Has anyone ever made a cardboard masking tool for W123 alloy wheels? It would be basically a sheet of corrugated with a center cutout the exact size of the alloy, or maybe slightly smaller so you could stick it under the edge of the rim and it would stay in place while you sprayed carefree. This would make repainting so very easy... On 1/23/07, Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole). This was my spare and was only used a couple times. It is great to mount a snow tire on and the other one on your spare. Easy to switch tires in bad weather and back to regular tires in good weather. Or, as I did, put chains on my two spares. Its easer to change tires that to put chains on. Check on what a new one costs. I'm asking $65 Shipping weight is 15 lbs E-mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://webmaila.juno.com/webmail/new/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://webmaila.juno.com/webmail/new/for details and/or picture -- -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3904 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070123/394f6095/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)
Andrew - we had a club member demonstrate how to easily mask the tire, by just letting a bit of the air out, and stuffing an old T-shirt or similar cloth under the rim. Takes about 20 minutes to prime, paint, and clearcoat a wheel using auto store or Home Depot paints in rattle cans. Looks good and lasts, too. Of course, the condition before painting has to be brought up to nice and smooth with sandpaper and a good cleaning. I've done the same procedure on my SD, and it was good enough to get a 2nd in the Concours at SF06! Werner - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole) Has anyone ever made a cardboard masking tool for W123 alloy wheels? It would be basically a sheet of corrugated with a center cutout the exact size of the alloy, or maybe slightly smaller so you could stick it under the edge of the rim and it would stay in place while you sprayed carefree. This would make repainting so very easy...
Re: [MBZ] FNULNU
FNULNU = First Name Unknown Last Name Unknown It's some kind of police shorthand. A tax protester up by Bellingham changed his name to FNULNU thinking he would beat the IRS. At last report he was still in their custody. Cheers, Bruce Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:11:56 -0800 From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original 74 240D 79kmi FNULNU What is FNULNU? Nice to see you back on the list again! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula Bruce 82 300CD 348kmi 'His' 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi FNULNU 73 220D 'It' - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 21:57:51 2007 Received: from web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.45]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H9TeI-000559-OX for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:57:51 + Received: (qmail 59838 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2007 21:52:30 - X-YMail-OSG: .XMm86IVM1kC8xW8EzPYnQUWeAfnaoCWCZJZDipNgWm7TmSDVKOTnchBUbLA3OlLjQ-- Received: from [66.234.237.10] by web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:52:29 PST Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:52:29 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:57:51 - Am I missing something here? Delvac 1 is NOT 15w40, its 5w40 (five double you fourty). Delvac 1300 is 15w40 but its conventional oil. I personally use Mobil 1 15w50 but thats only because I have easy access to it. -Curt Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:12:02 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yes, I could certainly be out of date, since I usually buy about 8 gallons at a time, and that lasts a couple of years for me. Actually, I thought the TruckSUV Mobil1 had disappeared with their last change, since it disappeared from local shelves. But I suspect that Delvac1 will be around a bit longer, as real truckers don't seem to have such short attention spans as car drivers seem to have - hence the maketeers at Exxon-Mobil with their constantly changing numbers and bottle shapes and colors. Also, note that the advertising says that the TruckSUV is for gasoline engines, Diesels don't seem to be included. Anyway, I wouldn't want 5W-30 in my Diesel unless I lived somewhere North of Calgary. I like the idea of 15W-40 standing up to the temperatures and pressures on my engines! Some of us old-timers remember the gas crunch days of the 70s, when the car manufacturers figured out that by using thinner oils, they could save a few horsepower, and hence improve mileage. I believe the trend to 0W and 5W oils is rooted in this concept, which is a good idea as long as you get rid of the car before it gets too many miles on it. The manufacturers have a vested interest in getting people to buy new cars - not keep them for 20-30 years! Using too thin and oil was a big part of the downfall of GM and their 5.7 V-8 Diesel - GM said to use straight 30W, and the gas stations put in 10W-40! It had to be better, because it cost more, right? WRONG! Werner - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 23 21:58:46 2007 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1H9TfC-00056T-KM for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 23 Jan
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1
Delvac 1 was NEVER intended to be distributed in retail stores. It was an industrial product distributed to garages, fleet sales and maintenance organizations and fuel dealers by the industrial sales division of Mobil (although it sometimes did manage to get on retail store shelves - in Canada it was sold at Wal-Mart for a while). Mobil 1 WAS and is a retail product intended to be distributed in retail store shelves. It was sold by an entirely different sales force and has an entire different price structure (or did before the Exxon/Mobil merger - less sure about the sales policy now). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 4 speed SLC
I'm not complaining as I've had an overwhelmingly positive experience with ebay, on both the buy and sell sides. I just get REALLY irritated when certain charlatans give their address as North America or sunny California G. On 1/23/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ebay should require a geographic location specific enough to track down crooks and their ilk. But they'd lose so much business. Friend of mine calls eBay the world's biggest fence Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile
Andrew Cunningham wrote: I would love to see a scan of that chart. Threw in a little extra as well. The chart is on the bottom of page 9 though. A more advanced one for the governor used on the M pumps (OM60x) is on page 14. http://www.ece.msstate.edu/~jer99/mercedes/BoschHighlights.pdf Since all this information is Copyrighted by Bosch if you would like to purchase your own copy of this book follow this link (the 3rd edition is the only one that has the inline pumps like ours). There is lots more in the book... http://www.boschtechinfo.com/index.cfm?event=product.searchkeyword=1%20987%20723%20602 Enjoy :) John '79 300SD
[MBZ] Anybody in the Colorado Springs Area?
Hi All I will be in Colorado Springs thru Friday.. Staying at the Residence Inn on N. Academy Anybody like to get together for some sustenance and libation.??? And of course, the required Mercedes-Benz conversation! Let me know. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ
Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, John Robbins wrote: http://www.ece.msstate.edu/~jer99/mercedes/BoschHighlights.pdf Its on clearance for $10 !!! -j.
Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
it's unique to the 115 and older series cars - somehow, when they made the
filter housing top-mounted, they ditched the plastic.
On 1/23/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, is this spring and plastic pre-filter something unique to the older
240D? Either I missed it, or at least I didn't see such a thing on any of
my 126 SDs ('83 and '84) nor my '90D (602).
Werner
- Original Message -
From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions
get the plastic pre-filter - without it, actual filtering of the oil
isn't
happening.
On 1/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/22/2007 8:50:01 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have a new arrival - she looks great, is healthy, responsive, and
pumpkin
orange. A 74 240D, very clean, and the heater blower fan
works! A fitting
replacement for the 79 240D that we sent to a warm and deserving
home on
Marrowstone Island.
A new thermostat was needed, as well as a slug of oil in the air
filter
and
a fresh change of M1. But after I changed the oil, something made me
stop
and think. The new car lacks the plastic oil filter screen and shaft
spring in
the oil filter housing that is on my daughter's 75 240D. Is this
standard
for the 74, or do I call Rusty tomorrow and order parts?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Psychological Insights Today
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah! I see you haven't had your glass bellybutton installed yet! ;) No, because I fear it might be a handicap if I ever want a career in upper management.
Re: [MBZ] radial before cranking
Don - Actually, what is happening when you pull the engine through by hand, is to check for a hydrostatic lock, a condition where so much oil has drained down into a lower cylinder that it locks the engine since the oil cannot be compressed. Many of those round engines were fitted with inertial starters and if one were to try and start an engine with a hydrostatic lock it is very likely that a rod would be bent or a piston damaged or worse. If a hydrostatic lock condition was found to exist while pulling it through, the mechanic would stop, and one of the spark plugs would be removed to drain away the excess oil before attempting to start it. You are correct that it was the excess oil in the exhaust headers that was burning and causing all that smoke. Oil was cheap in those days and pollution was not that big of a deal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] radial before cranking Yes - the hand cranking pumps the oil into the exhaust system, where it burns out once the engine starts. On 1/19/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the oil collected in the bottom why they usually make some smoke when they fire up? Randy
