Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
- Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just pour it out of the hose connections. > Peter The manual (CD) mentions measuring and adding oil to the compressor if you're working on some other part of the system. In that case it would seem like there would be some way to drain the compresssor without taking it out. Also, if you changed from R12 to R134a and switch to PAG oil, you would have somewhere between 60 and 170 cc (ml) of R12 mineral oil in the compressor mixing with incompatible PAG oil if the compressor wasn't drained? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Engine thanks me for a drink of oil?
Following recommendations I have been holding off on adding any oil to the 240D until the level reaches the "add" notch. I've been noticing a less than ideal level of valvetrain noise coming from under the hood. I went ahead and added a pint today. The level before adding was a tad above the add line. When I started up and drove away, the engine seemed quieter. It would seem that if adding oil (within proper limits) quiets engine noise, it is a good thing. For all I know, the difference in noise is of no consequence, but that seems a bit counterintuitive. Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
On 7/23/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I might be committing heresy here, but I'm looking for my next car and I saw > a BMW (I know, I know) - 1988 535i, 160Kmi, 1 owner, no rust, "maintained as > if I'd drive it forever." > > Any listers out there know anything about these cars? Problem areas? > Should I consider it or run away screaming? > The front end wears out around 100-150K. Ask about whether it's been rebuilt (new bushings, control arms, etc.). Stock wheels are in a metric size (a brief Michelin experiment that never caught on) for which tires are outrageously expensive. Takeoff 15" or 16" wheels from many later BMWs will fit and are cheap and easy to find, though. The automatic trannies self-destruct if revved in neutral or park (e.g. during an emissions test). The manual is bulletproof. Various plastic bits in the motor dry out over time and fail to do their job of oiling the valvetrain, necessitating a top-end rebuild. Other than that they are extremely long-lived, well-built cars---generally considered the most reliable BMW ever. If it has been taken care of, you will be astounded at the handling and performance---like your old 124, but much more so. Half the mileage, though. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a "non-proportional" font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 070723 2.889 2.860 2.950 2.945 2.815 2.882 2.815 2.988 3.061 3.158 070716 2.889 2.874 2.959 2.949 2.834 2.878 2.821 2.977 3.031 3.147 070709 2.849 2.853 2.942 2.936 2.810 2.822 2.785 2.955 2.987 3.090 070702 2.829 2.827 2.930 2.916 2.779 2.805 2.766 2.936 2.972 3.067 070625 2.835 2.832 2.920 2.915 2.789 2.806 2.780 2.936 2.985 3.073 070618 2.805 2.800 2.877 2.869 2.764 2.774 2.753 2.907 2.958 3.033 070611 2.792 2.789 2.882 2.873 2.744 2.753 2.742 2.937 2.941 2.997 070604 2.799 2.794 2.882 2.870 2.753 2.764 2.749 2.958 2.931 2.972 070528 2.817 2.811 2.888 2.882 2.773 2.783 2.776 2.980 2.939 2.975 070521 2.803 2.798 2.884 2.873 2.758 2.773 2.747 2.993 2.921 2.955 070514 2.773 2.758 2.866 2.843 2.711 2.740 2.713 2.998 2.919 2.952 070507 2.792 2.781 2.874 2.867 2.735 2.754 2.744 2.995 2.935 2.974 070430 2.811 2.800 2.871 2.873 2.762 2.775 2.766 2.988 2.952 2.987 070423 2.851 2.837 2.864 2.877 2.817 2.831 2.815 2.978 2.953 3.004 070416 2.877 2.862 2.871 2.885 2.852 2.864 2.849 2.981 2.956 3.015 070409 2.840 2.813 2.821 2.852 2.796 2.835 2.810 2.951 2.921 2.978 070402 2.790 2.764 2.786 2.820 2.739 2.780 2.766 2.884 2.885 2.939 070326 2.676 2.657 2.713 2.711 2.630 2.655 2.643 2.780 2.803 2.869 070319 2.681 2.661 2.722 2.719 2.631 2.666 2.640 2.765 2.813 2.875 070312 2.685 2.669 2.730 2.719 2.643 2.673 2.644 2.736 2.811 2.899 070305 2.626 2.604 2.693 2.668 2.568 2.606 2.587 2.658 2.795 2.897 070226 2.551 2.526 2.650 2.598 2.483 2.523 2.497 2.568 2.790 2.911 070219 2.491 2.479 2.636 2.581 2.421 2.444 2.418 2.517 2.784 2.901 070212 2.476 2.465 2.625 2.564 2.408 2.429 2.394 2.517 2.777 2.905 070205 2.435 2.433 2.593 2.527 2.378 2.377 2.360 2.523 2.720 2.825 070129 2.413 2.406 2.570 2.508 2.347 2.349 2.347 2.556 2.687 2.761 070122 2.430 2.421 2.582 2.525 2.361 2.371 2.361 2.586 2.695 2.742 070115 2.463 2.437 2.622 2.559 2.368 2.408 2.391 2.625 2.749 2.773 070108 2.537 2.520 2.672 2.633 2.458 2.483 2.459 2.682 2.824 2.856 070101 2.580 2.565 2.710 2.681 2.503 2.534 2.500 2.697 2.853 2.883 061225 2.596 2.587 2.737 2.710 2.520 2.550 2.514 2.713 2.856 2.885 061218 2.606 2.599 2.730 2.722 2.535 2.555 2.519 2.716 2.887 2.917 061211 2.621 2.610 2.749 2.730 2.546 2.563 2.540 2.724 2.931 2.963 061204 2.618 2.610 2.716 2.717 2.555 2.578 2.537 2.707 2.860 2.860 061127 2.567 2.537 2.634 2.652 2.479 2.554 2.490 2.680 2.760 2.710 061120 2.553 2.521 2.625 2.638 2.461 2.554 2.469 2.647 2.724 2.690 061113 2.552 2.530 2.616 2.643 2.473 2.562 2.470 2.623 2.673 2.677 061106 2.506 2.508 2.613 2.628 2.448 2.493 2.449 2.577 2.606 2.637 061030 2.517 2.530 2.629 2.646 2.472 2.501 2.462 2.577 2.602 2.645 061023 2.524 2.537 2.636 2.651 2.480 2.502 2.477 2.563 2.628 2.669 061016 2.503 2.521 2.623 2.636 2.462 2.459 2.461 2.539 2.655 2.703 061009 2.506 2.533 2.649 2.654 2.471 2.448 2.446 2.584 2.697 2.751 061002
Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
Does it come with a polo shirt and fancy sunglasses or do you have to get that separately? --- Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I might be committing heresy here, but I'm looking for my next car > and I saw > a BMW (I know, I know) - 1988 535i, 160Kmi, 1 owner, no rust, > "maintained as > if I'd drive it forever." ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----
They aren't on the same fuse - but I did replace the fuse for the EDS, since I replaced all of them. I didn't notice that one being bad, but it sure runs better with all new fuses - and my pistons aren't melting! > Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed that the ACC and the EDS idle > control were on the same fuse. > > FYI, a good way to check if your EDS is defective that i discovered > quite by accident is to unplug the connector on top of the IP right > behind the ALDA and see if the idle gets lumpy. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush
Thx Dan, Will give it a try - I have a fresh can of PB Blaster and some vice grips with nice sharp teeth - but I'm not looking forward to doing all that work laying on my back! ;-) Thanks for the suggestions -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush > Larry, > > I would encourage you to begin soaking the fittings > with penetrating lube if you haven't already. As for > the ones that the gorilla rounded off, try taking a > pair of ViceGrips to them once they've been soaking > for a couple of days. > > It's not an ideal approach, but it's worked for me on > a couple of occassions. > > As for bending the new line, remove the old one first > and use it as a template. If you take your time and > do a little at a time, you'll have no problem getting > the new line to a reasonable facsimile of the original > - as long as it fits and doesn't rub on anything, > you'll be good for several 100k... > > Dan > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 > 7:02 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
Just pour it out of the hose connections. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
I think they're great cars. I don't own one, but many friends do. I feel they're ever bit as reliable as a benz; those that I know would say even more so, and most of them have owned Mercedes too. The inline 3.5 is great and very smooth. I have a couple of friends with them in both 3 and 5 series with over 250,000 miles with no issues. Ed 300E On 23/07/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I might be committing heresy here, but I'm looking for my next car and I > saw > a BMW (I know, I know) - 1988 535i, 160Kmi, 1 owner, no rust, "maintained > as > if I'd drive it forever." > > Any listers out there know anything about these cars? Problem areas? > Should I consider it or run away screaming? > > -- > Sunil Hari > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 513-205-7474 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
> Really? Does that mean you can get the R134a oil out of a sytem for a > reverse-conversion by just pulling a vacuum for a while? I thought > you had to flush everything out. If by a 'while' you mean a decade or so, sure! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
> Perhaps a dumb question - why are you installing a R-4 compressor? I > thought the only ones used in automotive applications were R-12 and > R-134a? > What's the advantage to using R-4? R-4 stands for a radial 4-cylinder design. The slightly earlier compressor (as used in 450's) was the A6, an axial six-cylinder compressor. The later Nippondenso could be called an A10. The earliest York is a two-cylinder. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
> Think of it a sending a shock through the system, everything is turning > nicely and you slam the brakes on. Would you regularly lock up the rear > wheels via the handbrake? No, why not? The first thing the knob does is lift off the driving idler gear, then the dials free-spin back to zero. There is no place to induce a shock other than when the gear gently lands back in position. That shouldn't do anything, unless it's already broken or is about to. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
> It's a W123, isn't it? Yes. > You needed to remove the face to repair the odometer drive gear? Didn't _have_ to, but felt safer doing so. I didn't want to scratch up the cosmetics. > Wow. Every time I have done it I slid in a temporary shaft. A > drill bit has worked well, or a bailing wire. That might have worked, but I wanted to clean the faces too. They were noticeably grungy. In my mis-spent 'yout' I tore apart and reassembled the carriage on a Friden rotary calculator. 21 spring-loaded dials IIRC. Piece of cake compared to this! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
You will soon have deep pockets. Buy it. On 7/23/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I might be committing heresy here, but I'm looking for my next car and I > saw > a BMW (I know, I know) - 1988 535i, 160Kmi, 1 owner, no rust, "maintained > as > if I'd drive it forever." > > Any listers out there know anything about these cars? Problem areas? > Should I consider it or run away screaming? > > -- > Sunil Hari > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 513-205-7474 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: looking at a ___
I might be committing heresy here, but I'm looking for my next car and I saw a BMW (I know, I know) - 1988 535i, 160Kmi, 1 owner, no rust, "maintained as if I'd drive it forever." Any listers out there know anything about these cars? Problem areas? Should I consider it or run away screaming? -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
Well you have just explained why it is a bad idea to reset on the move. What causes more wear/damage? Shifting gears while stationary with the engine off or shifiting gears while on the move? - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odometers > It seems than at Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:17:56 +0930, Hendrik wrote: > >> No one is saying that reseting on the move once or twice a year is a big >> deal, however when it becomes a habit then the problems start. >> Think of it a sending a shock through the system, everything is turning >> nicely and you slam the brakes on. Would you regularly lock up the rear >> wheels via the handbrake? No, why not? > > > > The first thing that happens when the reset button is press is > the drive gear is lifted so the tripometer is now "de-clutched". > As the button is pressed further, the gears spin back to zero. > When the button is released, the last action is to re-engaged > the odometer drive to the tripometer. > > It's like shifting gears than locking the brakes. Sure, it causes > wear - but so does pulling out of the driveway. Or sitting in > the seat. > > --Philip > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: > 23/07/2007 7:45 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
I know it is hard to understand but there is a whole bunch of places outside the US of A. A lot of those places have vehicles which are not available in the good ole USA. Like the 230TE. Just like other parts of the world never got models available in the good ole USA like the Diesel S class and 123 coupe. Further it may come as a shock to learn that people outide of the good ole USA have learned how to use a computer and access the internet and even how to sign up to mail lists/forums. I realise that usually the only Americans that travel outside of the states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and carry rifles but yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have trouble with odometers. - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odometers > But a 230TE - maybe you guys _are_ discussing non-W123s > > -- Philip, whose W108 is gone, so there's nothing but W123s now. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
Jim Cathey wrote: > Anyway, I knurled the shaft where the metal drive gear > seats using a pair of pliers. ... I had to tap the > shaft into its final position with a hammer as the knurling made for a > tight fit. I grabbed mine with the Snap-On needle nose pliers, put the knurling right where I wanted it. Like you, I overdid it and had to reassemble with a hammer. Unlike you, all I took apart was the shaft, I punched it out with a slightly smaller diameter chunk of drill rod. After knurling, I put the original shaft back in. Removing the cluster from the car took much longer than the repair, probably 30-40 minutes total. (there might be more room to access the cluster on my W116 than on your W123) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
It seems than at Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:17:56 +0930, Hendrik wrote: > No one is saying that reseting on the move once or twice a year is a big > deal, however when it becomes a habit then the problems start. > Think of it a sending a shock through the system, everything is turning > nicely and you slam the brakes on. Would you regularly lock up the rear > wheels via the handbrake? No, why not? The first thing that happens when the reset button is press is the drive gear is lifted so the tripometer is now "de-clutched". As the button is pressed further, the gears spin back to zero. When the button is released, the last action is to re-engaged the odometer drive to the tripometer. It's like shifting gears than locking the brakes. Sure, it causes wear - but so does pulling out of the driveway. Or sitting in the seat. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
It seems than at Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:50:03 -0700, Jim wrote: > This morning's Chicken Wagon update: It's a W123, isn't it? > I removed the failing odometer from the car. I looked at putting > cyanoacrylate glue on the shaft, and even tried a bit, but it didn't > want to wick into where it needed to be and tried to sieze the shaft > where it goes through the frame. Things are just too tight there for > the 'quick fix', I don't know how anybody does it without ruining the > odometer. One of my cars had been "fixed" that way. I failed to repair it. > Time for Plan B. I removed the face of the speedometer, You needed to remove the face to repair the odometer drive gear? Maybe it's not a W123... I have performed drive gear repairs on at least four different W123 cars. I haven't ever needed to remove the face 'cause all the parts are accessibly from the back. > Next I removed the odometer drive shaft entirely, liberating > all the plastic dials. Wow. Every time I have done it I slid in a temporary shaft. A drill bit has worked well, or a bailing wire. > The pot-metal drive gear (in the non-visible > tenths position) was really quite loose, but sometimes would bind a > bit. This is the failure mode I have seen. > I then reassembled > the shaft and dials, which was not easy. Ya, I'll bet! > I had to tap the > shaft into its final position with a hammer as the knurling made for a > tight fit. After it was all together it worked freely when driven by > my thumb. > We'll see how it goes! I have put about 50,000 miles or so on a knurl-the-shaft repair, use the tripometer often (never for fueling. I can subtract and the tripometer is too useful to tie up), and it's still working well. One of the other repairs had at least 30,000 before the engine broke some rings. I'm still not sure if there's a connection between the frequent tripometer resets and the broken piston rings > > Perhaps the previous owner of the 230TE, that odo came from > > never used the reset button, no way of knowing really. > > Having just become intimately familiar with the guts of the > offending unit, I can in no way see how resetting the trip > odometer, moving or not, can place any significantly greater > torque on the drive gear. If it does, the amount is nearly > trivial and the drive gear is already about to fail. It > takes _considerable_ torque to roll over a bunch of dials > at once, that drive gear is supposed to be _tight_. I agree with Jim. But a 230TE - maybe you guys _are_ discussing non-W123s -- Philip, whose W108 is gone, so there's nothing but W123s now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
No one is saying that reseting on the move once or twice a year is a big deal, however when it becomes a habit then the problems start. Think of it a sending a shock through the system, everything is turning nicely and you slam the brakes on. Would you regularly lock up the rear wheels via the handbrake? No, why not? Because something in the back of your mind tells you that this can't be good for the drivetrain, same with the little reset button. Anyway i think this subject has been covered from just about every angle and what people do to their cars is their business. The advice stands, whether people choose to follow or ignore matters not. - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:20 AM Subject: [MBZ] Odometers > > Having just become intimately familiar with the guts of the > offending unit, I can in no way see how resetting the trip > odometer, moving or not, can place any significantly greater > torque on the drive gear. If it does, the amount is nearly > trivial and the drive gear is already about to fail. It > takes _considerable_ torque to roll over a bunch of dials > at once, that drive gear is supposed to be _tight_. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $400,000 Sprinter
John M McIntosh wrote: > Still it looked quite nice, like a normal sprinter van until you got > closer and saw it had another 4 feet or so of length on the back > as compared to the other sprinters I see running about. Just made me remember about one I saw coming back from Ohio... it was a normal small motorhome, but instead of being built off of an Econoline van (cab only, motorhome for the 'box') it was a Sprinter for the cab! Thought that was pretty neat. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $400,000 Sprinter
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Re: [MBZ] $400,000 Sprinter
Mmm, my dealer had one in which my wife lusted after, it was ony $80k ish (used) I think it was > $120k or so to the original buyer so I'd think $400K is a lot of gold faucets or something. Still it looked quite nice, like a normal sprinter van until you got closer and saw it had another 4 feet or so of length on the back as compared to the other sprinters I see running about. On Jul 23, 2007, at 2:17 PM, John Robbins wrote: > http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-07-22-sprinter_N.htm > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 385k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $400,000 Sprinter
Nice. We have a family in the next neighborhood over who have about 8 kids. They bought one of these (just the regular passenger version, not a custom) a few years ago when they first came out. I'm not sure if it's a diesel or not - never paid that much attention. Dan Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush
Larry, I would encourage you to begin soaking the fittings with penetrating lube if you haven't already. As for the ones that the gorilla rounded off, try taking a pair of ViceGrips to them once they've been soaking for a couple of days. It's not an ideal approach, but it's worked for me on a couple of occassions. As for bending the new line, remove the old one first and use it as a template. If you take your time and do a little at a time, you'll have no problem getting the new line to a reasonable facsimile of the original - as long as it fits and doesn't rub on anything, you'll be good for several 100k... Dan Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush
Thx Dan, Yep, way ahead of you. Actually, I was going to replace all the rubber lines and flush the brake fluid when I discovered a chimpanze had worked on the calipers at some point in the past. All 4 bleeders ere rounded off like they'd been tightened with a pair of pliers. Rather than risk taking the car off the road for several days as I attempted to repair the bleed valves, I bought a set (4) of '95 E300D calipers from a fellow lister who upgraded his brakes. I cleaned them up and painted the making them a direct replacement along with the almost new Padgid pads and excellent rotors. Then my nightmare took a turn for the worse when I found the rear metal brake lines had been tweaked by the same monkey. All the flare nuts were rounded off. Great, just great. So, Rusty ordered one from Germany and had the other on the shelf. Now, I have 2 straight metal brake lines which I will need to fit into place by bending them properly. More fun. Can't wait. Anyway, I finished the fronts because they were the less damaged of the 4. Next, I'll tackle the rears when my wife can be without her car for a little while. Not looking forward to removing the brake lines from the splitter next to the diff. - and like the idea of bending & fitting the metal lines it promises to be filled with agony. I'll probably need to cut them off somehow. That's the whole sordid story up to now. When I replace all the rear stuff I'll probably have some more problems to report. ;-) Have a nice week - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush >I would seriously consider replacing all the brake > lines at this time as well. As they age they swell > internally, cutting down on the amount of fluid and > pressure that can reach the calipers. > > It's a cheap part and the difference is noticeable. > > Worst case scenario, you get a line that has swollen > badly enough inside and it acts like a one way check > vale and your caliper on that wheel locks up. > > It happens. > > Dan > > > --- Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> The inside diameter of the brake lines isn't very >> big , they don't hold >> all that much fluid. The new stuff generally appears >> at the bleeders >> pretty quick, especially if using a pressure bleeder >> and you've removed >> all the old fluid from the reservoir before >> starting. >> >> --Robert >> >> LarryT wrote: >> > Howdy - >> > I am replacing my rotors & calipers on the - 91 >> 300D 2.5t W124 - and >> > flushing the brake fluid as I bleed the system. >> I am using a Pressure >> > Bleeder and maintaining 20 + #'s on the bleeder. >> I am using Ate "Blue" >> > brake fluid so I can tell when fresh fluid has >> filled the part of the system >> > I am working on - I'll use the Gold Ate next time. >> . However, the blue >> > seems to appear pretty quickly and I am worried >> the ABS unit may not be >> > being flushed. Didn;t see anything in the WSM >> about it - should I proceed >> > as I am or is there something else I should do >> when bleeding? BTW, I have >> > rebuilt the calipers and cleaned any sludge out so >> they're in good shape. >> > >> > Am I doing all that is needed or is there more I >> need to do? >> > >> > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> > Weber Carb Info >> http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> > . >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: >> http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: >> http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or ch
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
And the failure has nothing to do with when the reset button is set. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 7/22/07 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT All VDO odometers eventually fail, although mine in the 300D is going on 270,000 miles with no trouble yet. The one in the TE croaked at less than 200,000 -- trip odometer won't flip over past 0.9 miles. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $400,000 Sprinter
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[MBZ] i'm going insane
On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I shouldnt > let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. I casually mentioned the above fact to SWMBO, and she replied "You're lusting after it, aren't you" Oh, well. Royce Currently Benzless '01 Ford Expedition 75K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS i'm going insane NOW rust repair
You have to decide if you are tired of the car and want something else. If so, it would be a waste of your effort to make repairs. If you are not ready to move on, then get it fixed - assuming the rust is not too bad - as at least you know the car. A "new" old car carries a lot of potential risk with it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it has some rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to address the rust and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? I have owned it since 1989 and the car is more or less 100 percent functional save for the typical broken center vent. The interior is better than average too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
If you're selling an 87 W124 300TD for only $2.5 in such a pretty color combo what's the catch? On 7/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > save it > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 PP Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > > > > My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it has > > some > > rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to address the > > rust > > and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? I have owned it since > > 1989 > > and the car is more or less 100 percent functional save for the typical > > broken center vent. The interior is better than average too. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush
I would seriously consider replacing all the brake lines at this time as well. As they age they swell internally, cutting down on the amount of fluid and pressure that can reach the calipers. It's a cheap part and the difference is noticeable. Worst case scenario, you get a line that has swollen badly enough inside and it acts like a one way check vale and your caliper on that wheel locks up. It happens. Dan --- Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The inside diameter of the brake lines isn't very > big , they don't hold > all that much fluid. The new stuff generally appears > at the bleeders > pretty quick, especially if using a pressure bleeder > and you've removed > all the old fluid from the reservoir before > starting. > > --Robert > > LarryT wrote: > > Howdy - > > I am replacing my rotors & calipers on the - 91 > 300D 2.5t W124 - and > > flushing the brake fluid as I bleed the system. > I am using a Pressure > > Bleeder and maintaining 20 + #'s on the bleeder. > I am using Ate "Blue" > > brake fluid so I can tell when fresh fluid has > filled the part of the system > > I am working on - I'll use the Gold Ate next time. > . However, the blue > > seems to appear pretty quickly and I am worried > the ABS unit may not be > > being flushed. Didn;t see anything in the WSM > about it - should I proceed > > as I am or is there something else I should do > when bleeding? BTW, I have > > rebuilt the calipers and cleaned any sludge out so > they're in good shape. > > > > Am I doing all that is needed or is there more I > need to do? > > > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > > Weber Carb Info > http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > . > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM602 Oil Pressure
At what RPM should I peg my oil gauge? IIRC, on my 617 it pegs by 1400 or lower. On my 92 300D 2.5T it doesn't peg till almost 1800-2000. If thats not right what all do I need to look into? The first thing I'd think is the o-rings on the oil filter stem. Anything else? Also, I think the OM603's had the oil capacity reduced by .5 quart. Is that also true for the OM602? Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush
The inside diameter of the brake lines isn't very big , they don't hold all that much fluid. The new stuff generally appears at the bleeders pretty quick, especially if using a pressure bleeder and you've removed all the old fluid from the reservoir before starting. --Robert LarryT wrote: > Howdy - > I am replacing my rotors & calipers on the - 91 300D 2.5t W124 - and > flushing the brake fluid as I bleed the system. I am using a Pressure > Bleeder and maintaining 20 + #'s on the bleeder. I am using Ate "Blue" > brake fluid so I can tell when fresh fluid has filled the part of the system > I am working on - I'll use the Gold Ate next time. . However, the blue > seems to appear pretty quickly and I am worried the ABS unit may not be > being flushed. Didn;t see anything in the WSM about it - should I proceed > as I am or is there something else I should do when bleeding? BTW, I have > rebuilt the calipers and cleaned any sludge out so they're in good shape. > > Am I doing all that is needed or is there more I need to do? > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----
On 7/22/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the > tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting. Two days ago the > ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The > indicator light for the mono valve stayed off. > > As I removed one fuse that was quite > blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other > circuits. > Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed that the ACC and the EDS idle control were on the same fuse. FYI, a good way to check if your EDS is defective that i discovered quite by accident is to unplug the connector on top of the IP right behind the ALDA and see if the idle gets lumpy. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
save it --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it has > some > rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to address the > rust > and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? I have owned it since > 1989 > and the car is more or less 100 percent functional save for the typical > broken center vent. The interior is better than average too. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
R-4 has nothing to do with the type of refrigerant, it is the type of compressor, its a rotary compressor. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor > Perhaps a dumb question - why are you installing a R-4 compressor? I > thought the only ones used in automotive applications were R-12 and > R-134a? > What's the advantage to using R-4? > > On 7/23/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > if you're using R143a oil it will evaporate under a deep vacuum, >> > this is one reason that de-moisturizing a R134a system with vacuum >> > doesn't work so well. >> >> Really? Does that mean you can get the R134a oil out of a sytem for a >> reverse-conversion by just pulling a vacuum for a while? I thought >> you had to flush everything out. >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1966 230 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > Sunil Hari > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 513-205-7474 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C O-Rings
In a message dated 7/22/2007 9:42:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My A/C has a slow leak since conversion to the new R. Is there a kit of O-Ring for a 123 to solve the problem If there is a fitting too difficult to turn, can a matte of exposy wrapped around the fitting hold under the pressure TIA Bill 1981 300 TD Bill., It more likely that the hoses running through the engine compartment are leaking, especially the big one. Wipe them down with a solvent rag to get the oil off and then check them again for oil in a couple weeks. Green O- rings are readily available at most auto supply stores in any size you should need. I don't know any "kits" being available. My note to the list a few days ago indicated that Harbor Freight had a nice assortment, on sale, for $9.95. It is very unlikely that you will get an external seal on an O-ring leak. If you have one you can't get apart, soak it with your favorite penetrant and leave it a few days. The correct size wrenches must be used to prevent distorting the clamping nut which will bind it even tighter. Now is a good time to point out that the clamping nut on the fitting does little to seal the fitting. It does not need to be torqued more than about 15 foot pounds to compress the O-ring. The new green O-rings can be installed dry but I would put some antiseize on the fitting threads for ease of removal next time. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
where are you at? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > > Wish you were closer > > > Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:53:30 -0500 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I > shouldnt > let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. > > > - > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I shouldnt > let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. > Hey, my favorite color combo! I want, especially if it goes for less than the 2.5! Keep us posted, Kaleb. You might have a bidding war on your hands. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
If the car is all original, I would rather buy a car and see what I'm getting and just adjust the price I pay. Always wonder about those cars with fresh paint that are being sold. What are they hiding?? :-) Sure you could fully document the paint and rust work, but I don't if such effort and cost is worth if for these cars. Aren't you in Canada? I think you were going to post or send some further info on the car? Ed 300E On 23/07/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it has > some > rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to address the > rust > and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? I have owned it since > 1989 > and the car is more or less 100 percent functional save for the typical > broken center vent. The interior is better than average too. > > On 7/23/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Wish you were closer > > > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:53:30 -0500 > > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > > 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I > > shouldnt > > let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. > > > > > > - > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
- Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Perhaps a dumb question - why are you installing a R-4 compressor? I > thought the only ones used in automotive applications were R-12 and > R-134a? > What's the advantage to using R-4? That's what the compressor is called according to Tom at Rustys. I don't think it refers to the type of refrigerant; it might mean that there are four pistons but I'm just guessing. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SPAM-LOW: Re: Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
Sunil, R4 is the name of the compressor. It was a GM unit used in most Benzes from 1981 to 1985. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor > Perhaps a dumb question - why are you installing a R-4 compressor? I > thought the only ones used in automotive applications were R-12 and > R-134a? > What's the advantage to using R-4? > > On 7/23/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > if you're using R143a oil it will evaporate under a deep vacuum, >> > this is one reason that de-moisturizing a R134a system with vacuum >> > doesn't work so well. >> >> Really? Does that mean you can get the R134a oil out of a sytem for a >> reverse-conversion by just pulling a vacuum for a while? I thought >> you had to flush everything out. >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1966 230 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > Sunil Hari > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 513-205-7474 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
Perhaps a dumb question - why are you installing a R-4 compressor? I thought the only ones used in automotive applications were R-12 and R-134a? What's the advantage to using R-4? On 7/23/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > if you're using R143a oil it will evaporate under a deep vacuum, > > this is one reason that de-moisturizing a R134a system with vacuum > > doesn't work so well. > > Really? Does that mean you can get the R134a oil out of a sytem for a > reverse-conversion by just pulling a vacuum for a while? I thought > you had to flush everything out. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
Vacuum will only remove what turns to a vapor. This is why vacuum will not remove oil & will only remove water if it's warm enough. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 07/23/07 10:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I woud have thought pulling a vacuum would remove any existing oil. with new oil added (IIRC) the same as freon is added. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor > From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> Can someone tell me how to drain the oil from the old compressor and >>> add oil >>> to the new compressor? >>> Gerry > --- >> Umm, pour it out the holes and pour it in the same way? >> Might take awhile to drain, and you should rotate it by >> hand to help it along... >> -- Jim > --- > That's sorta what I suspected, Jim. The only compressor something like an > R-4 I've worked on is a Nippondenso and that was the only way to > add/drain > oil from it if I recall. > Thanks, > Gerry > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 > 7:02 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > if you're using R143a oil it will evaporate under a deep vacuum, > this is one reason that de-moisturizing a R134a system with vacuum > doesn't work so well. Really? Does that mean you can get the R134a oil out of a sytem for a reverse-conversion by just pulling a vacuum for a while? I thought you had to flush everything out. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
> My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it > has some > rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to address > the rust > and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? Fix rust and repaint if you're going to keep it and you want it nice, you'll never get that kind of repair money back out of a sale. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
> I woud have thought pulling a vacuum would remove any existing oil. Not a chance. The flow rate is too slow to pick up the (heavy) oil and drag it along, and once there is a partial vacuum the transport mechanism pretty much stops. Of course, if you're using R143a oil it will evaporate under a deep vacuum, this is one reason that de-moisturizing a R134a system with vacuum doesn't work so well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Odometers
This morning's Chicken Wagon update: I removed the failing odometer from the car. I looked at putting cyanoacrylate glue on the shaft, and even tried a bit, but it didn't want to wick into where it needed to be and tried to sieze the shaft where it goes through the frame. Things are just too tight there for the 'quick fix', I don't know how anybody does it without ruining the odometer. Time for Plan B. I removed the face of the speedometer, first lifting the needle over the zero stop and ensuring that it rested on the little mark on the edge of the dial that marks its zero tension position. I then used the two-spoons trick to pop off the needle. Next I removed the odometer drive shaft entirely, liberating all the plastic dials. The pot-metal drive gear (in the non-visible tenths position) was really quite loose, but sometimes would bind a bit. Looking inside the bore of this gear it appears that there might be a bit of spring wire coiled in there that is supposed to 'bite' on the shaft. Anyway, I knurled the shaft where the metal drive gear seats using a pair of pliers. One must be very careful not to mar the shaft where the plastic dial gears are as they must spin freely. While it was apart I used alcohol and a swab to clean all the dial faces, the trip odometer was particularly filthy. I then reassembled the shaft and dials, which was not easy. It took a few tries before I got everything aligned so that it would function and the dials lined up through the holes in the face. I added some miles to its reading to partially compensate for the time it was broken. I had to tap the shaft into its final position with a hammer as the knurling made for a tight fit. After it was all together it worked freely when driven by my thumb. I then reinstalled the speedometer face, put the needle on the shaft so that it pointed at the resting mark, then lifted it back over the zero stop. I then greased the drive gears and put some M1 5W20 on the sleeve bearing. With this all done I reassembled the instrument cluster and installed it back in the car. I also squirted a bunch of oil down the drive cable. We'll see how it goes! > Perhaps the previous owner of the 230TE, that odo came from never used > the > reset button, no way of knowing really. Having just become intimately familiar with the guts of the offending unit, I can in no way see how resetting the trip odometer, moving or not, can place any significantly greater torque on the drive gear. If it does, the amount is nearly trivial and the drive gear is already about to fail. It takes _considerable_ torque to roll over a bunch of dials at once, that drive gear is supposed to be _tight_. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it > has some rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to > address the rust and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? I > have owned it since 1989 and the car is more or less 100 percent > functional save for the typical broken center vent. The interior is > better than average too. If you plan on keeping the car it may be worth fixing the rust. If you plan on selling, it's IMO very unlikely you will recoup the cost of the repair. Remember there's probably twice as much rust as is visible from the outside. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
I just got into the habit of keeping a little address type binder (one of those little 3-ring things) in my driver's map pocket. When I get in the car first thing in the morning, I record the date and mileage. If I get gas, I record that, and write the mileage on the receipt. If I do any work on the car, I'll write it down under that day's entry. I don't go so far as to record costs for things like oil and filters, but if I had to come up with numbers I could get pretty close. I have a file folder in my desk that I toss all the receipts in, so I've got the details if I need them. Dan --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just by them Don, but I looked a LOTS and I've > heard so many stories, if > they can't back it up with some paperwork, I just > walk. I too keep similar > logs. Like Dan, I can tell you every gallon of gas > that has gone through my > porsche from day one, including all parts, service > and even drives. Not as > fussy with the benz and I'm in and out with it, but > I certainly log all the > gas, oil, plug checks etc. Not that it does much > good with that car as > there was a gap in the paperwork. I knew the guy I > bought it off or I would > have passed on this one too. Looking at some s > Classes now, and a few > others when sellers saying all the right things to > push my buttons. The > next one will have to be fully documented, and I'm > will to pay for it. :-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 23/07/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Paperwork. I log every gallon of fuel and every > quart of oil that goes > > into the car. YOu can extrapolate the miles from > the fuel used - > > assuming that you have an idea from previous > experience of what the > > fuel consumption is. > > On the other hand, are you implying that you > actually SELL cars? I > > seem to only buy them ;-) > > > > On 7/23/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mine is still ticking at 340,000 kms in the > 300E. It's funny this is > > > brought up as I'm looking at several cars now. > Once they say the cars > > odo > > > doesn't work, I usually walk away from it. Do > you guys take your cars > > with > > > brokes odos in to a shop for an oil change once > in a while, just for the > > > paperwork? You would show somebody that you > bought oil, but how do they > > > know you haven't poured it into other cars for > the past 5 years? :-) > > > > > > Ed > > > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, > and statistics." > > -Benjamin Disraeli > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 > Ply Grand Voyager > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cluster issue, was: Odo reset 190DT
I had a similar situation on my 240D once. Temp pegged and the fuel ticked with the clock. Somehow I had managed to screw up the ground in the cluster. I ran a new line from the cluster and all was well. -Curt Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:14:53 -0400 From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I swapped out a combination gauge (with a dead clock) in the SWMBO 1985 300CD turbodiesel coupe Saturday at an MB Club DIY tech session. After I reinstalled the instrument cluster the temp gauge and fuel gauge now bounce around erratically and the glow plug light comes on intermittently. I am now officially in the doghouse (even though the clock works) until I fix this new problem. Any suggestions are gratefully appreciated...? - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I woud have thought pulling a vacuum would remove any existing oil. > with new oil added (IIRC) the same as freon is added. I don't know much about A/C servicing, but in general pulling a vacuum will only remove gases from the system. Unless the oil evaporates under vacuum (which I doubt) it will remain. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
Fix the rust - it's worth more to you than to anyone else. On 7/23/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it has > some > rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to address the > rust > and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? I have owned it since > 1989 > and the car is more or less 100 percent functional save for the typical > broken center vent. The interior is better than average too. > > On 7/23/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Wish you were closer > > > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:53:30 -0500 > > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > > 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I > > shouldnt > > let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. > > > > > > - > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
My faithful 1983 300TD wagon has 282 K miles and sits outside so it has some rust issues. Should I sell it as, is or pony up the $$s to address the rust and perhaps even repaint it for the third time? I have owned it since 1989 and the car is more or less 100 percent functional save for the typical broken center vent. The interior is better than average too. On 7/23/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wish you were closer > > > Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:53:30 -0500 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I > shouldnt > let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. > > > - > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
The 123's where the worst affected out of all MB's in regards to odo failure, guess they had a few too many come back broken and decided to increase quality standards. However the 124 and 201 chassis have not yet done the avearge mileage of the 123 chassis. - Original Message - From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT > Mine is still ticking at 340,000 kms in the 300E. It's funny this is > brought up as I'm looking at several cars now. Once they say the cars odo > doesn't work, I usually walk away from it. Do you guys take your cars > with > brokes odos in to a shop for an oil change once in a while, just for the > paperwork? You would show somebody that you bought oil, but how do they > know you haven't poured it into other cars for the past 5 years? :-) > > Ed > 300E-334,000 kms odo working > 911SC-58,000 kms yes, that odo is correct and working too. hee hee > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
I swapped out a combination gauge (with a dead clock) in the SWMBO 1985 300CD turbodiesel coupe Saturday at an MB Club DIY tech session. After I reinstalled the instrument cluster the temp gauge and fuel gauge now bounce around erratically and the glow plug light comes on intermittently. I am now officially in the doghouse (even though the clock works) until I fix this new problem. Any suggestions are gratefully appreciated...? On 7/23/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've got one in my 230E that says 430,000kmhs, it may die tommorrow or in > 20 > years time but it will fail (well I think it is starting to slip, so > tommorrow is probably a better guess than 20 years). > Perhaps the previous owner of the 230TE, that odo came from never used the > reset button, no way of knowing really. > - Original Message - > From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT > > > > on my former 300D, both odos were still working perfectly at 292Kmi. > > > > On 7/22/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> That's like asking, "If I change my oil regularly will my engine never > >> break?" > >> Unfortunatley with the mechanical odo's they will break eventually, > even > >> if > >> you only reset when stopped. It is a ordinary design and there is no > way > >> of > >> fixing that. > >> What I am saying is that conventional wisdom is to reset tripmeters > when > >> they are not turning. > >> Whether you do or not is up to you, just like changing the oil is up to > >> you. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > >> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:30 AM > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT > >> > >> > >> > So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary > >> > does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Sunil Hari > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 513-205-7474 > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: > > 22/07/2007 7:02 PM > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
I woud have thought pulling a vacuum would remove any existing oil. with new oil added (IIRC) the same as freon is added. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor > From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> Can someone tell me how to drain the oil from the old compressor and >>> add oil >>> to the new compressor? >>> Gerry > --- >> Umm, pour it out the holes and pour it in the same way? >> Might take awhile to drain, and you should rotate it by >> hand to help it along... >> -- Jim > --- > That's sorta what I suspected, Jim. The only compressor something like an > R-4 I've worked on is a Nippondenso and that was the only way to > add/drain > oil from it if I recall. > Thanks, > Gerry > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 7/22/2007 > 7:02 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ABS Flush
Howdy - I am replacing my rotors & calipers on the - 91 300D 2.5t W124 - and flushing the brake fluid as I bleed the system. I am using a Pressure Bleeder and maintaining 20 + #'s on the bleeder. I am using Ate "Blue" brake fluid so I can tell when fresh fluid has filled the part of the system I am working on - I'll use the Gold Ate next time. . However, the blue seems to appear pretty quickly and I am worried the ABS unit may not be being flushed. Didn;t see anything in the WSM about it - should I proceed as I am or is there something else I should do when bleeding? BTW, I have rebuilt the calipers and cleaned any sludge out so they're in good shape. Am I doing all that is needed or is there more I need to do? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
I've got one in my 230E that says 430,000kmhs, it may die tommorrow or in 20 years time but it will fail (well I think it is starting to slip, so tommorrow is probably a better guess than 20 years). Perhaps the previous owner of the 230TE, that odo came from never used the reset button, no way of knowing really. - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT > on my former 300D, both odos were still working perfectly at 292Kmi. > > On 7/22/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> That's like asking, "If I change my oil regularly will my engine never >> break?" >> Unfortunatley with the mechanical odo's they will break eventually, even >> if >> you only reset when stopped. It is a ordinary design and there is no way >> of >> fixing that. >> What I am saying is that conventional wisdom is to reset tripmeters when >> they are not turning. >> Whether you do or not is up to you, just like changing the oil is up to >> you. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT >> >> >> > So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary >> > does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > Sunil Hari > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 513-205-7474 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: > 22/07/2007 7:02 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300TD fuel expansion tank
I had to replace my tank (1983 300TD) due to a leak as you describe. Unless the price of a new one has gone down I recommend you purchase a good used one. On 7/21/07, Scott Ritchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My opinion is you can cap them off but don't fill the tank more than about > 3/4 full until you have a new/repaired expansion tank. If the actual hose > are leaking, they may also be leaking where they attach to the top of the > main fuel tank. This is a bit harder to fix because you have to drop the > tank (it better be near empty first) to get access to where the hoses > attach > to nipples on top of the tank. As I recall, you also need to disconnect > the > vent hose to the filler neck. If any of the hoses are rotten, you'll > break > them for sure while dropping the tank, so have replacements on hand before > you start. One of these hoses (small one, I think) was ridiculously > expensive from MBZ. This is based on experience with my 1979 300TD. > > Scott Ritchey > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Luther > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 15:43 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] '85 300TD fuel expansion tank > > Working on routine maintenance on dad's '85 TD today and removed the spare > tire to see that the rubber/cloth fuel lines going to the expansion tank > were leaking. During the removal of one of those lines, the nipple broke > off of the tank. After more inspection of the tank, it is cracked in 5 > different places around each of the 3 mount tabs. Ouch. Can this tank be > bypassed or capped off until a replacement can be located? TIA all. > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast-needs injectors > '82 300CD (169 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
I just by them Don, but I looked a LOTS and I've heard so many stories, if they can't back it up with some paperwork, I just walk. I too keep similar logs. Like Dan, I can tell you every gallon of gas that has gone through my porsche from day one, including all parts, service and even drives. Not as fussy with the benz and I'm in and out with it, but I certainly log all the gas, oil, plug checks etc. Not that it does much good with that car as there was a gap in the paperwork. I knew the guy I bought it off or I would have passed on this one too. Looking at some s Classes now, and a few others when sellers saying all the right things to push my buttons. The next one will have to be fully documented, and I'm will to pay for it. :-) Ed 300E On 23/07/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paperwork. I log every gallon of fuel and every quart of oil that goes > into the car. YOu can extrapolate the miles from the fuel used - > assuming that you have an idea from previous experience of what the > fuel consumption is. > On the other hand, are you implying that you actually SELL cars? I > seem to only buy them ;-) > > On 7/23/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mine is still ticking at 340,000 kms in the 300E. It's funny this is > > brought up as I'm looking at several cars now. Once they say the cars > odo > > doesn't work, I usually walk away from it. Do you guys take your cars > with > > brokes odos in to a shop for an oil change once in a while, just for the > > paperwork? You would show somebody that you bought oil, but how do they > > know you haven't poured it into other cars for the past 5 years? :-) > > > > Ed > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Can someone tell me how to drain the oil from the old compressor and >> add oil >> to the new compressor? >> Gerry --- > Umm, pour it out the holes and pour it in the same way? > Might take awhile to drain, and you should rotate it by > hand to help it along... > -- Jim --- That's sorta what I suspected, Jim. The only compressor something like an R-4 I've worked on is a Nippondenso and that was the only way to add/drain oil from it if I recall. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
Wish you were closer Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:53:30 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I shouldnt let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
thats cheap --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > > >> > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, >> > I >> > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. >> >> You're right, $3,755.00 is cheap. >> >> >> Craig > > Local dealer had a 2.5 turbo 124 that for about the same, but without > the rash and a bit higher miles (I think 270k). Was listed at ~3,500 > and gone within a week. > > Tony Wirtel > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
> Can someone tell me how to drain the oil from the old compressor and > add oil > to the new compressor? Umm, pour it out the holes and pour it in the same way? Might take awhile to drain, and you should rotate it by hand to help it along... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
The 2.5 turbo used in the 300E is probably the best car diesel engine ever produced by Mercedes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Wirtel Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:59 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > > > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I > > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. > > You're right, $3,755.00 is cheap. > > > Craig Local dealer had a 2.5 turbo 124 that for about the same, but without the rash and a bit higher miles (I think 270k). Was listed at ~3,500 and gone within a week. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
> > > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I > > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. > > You're right, $3,755.00 is cheap. > > > Craig Local dealer had a 2.5 turbo 124 that for about the same, but without the rash and a bit higher miles (I think 270k). Was listed at ~3,500 and gone within a week. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
for now maybe. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > Another '92 300D 2.5 Turbo I was watching just ended at $3000. Looks > like the market is crashing. It's time to buy > > On 7/22/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You should have accepted my first offer >> >> On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, >> > I >> > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. >> > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
maybe --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > You should have accepted my first offer > > On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I >> cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. >> > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
no kidding. Should have just kept it for that price --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane > On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:50:10 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I >> cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. > > You're right, $3,755.00 is cheap. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack in dash [was Re: Seat refinishing]
Different stuff. That's vinyl repair, and no matter how good of a job you do, it will be visible and not last, either. Two words: Dash cover. Dan --- Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:04:24 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > www.leatherique.com > > > > Tell George I sent you and that you're on a > Mercedes > > list - he'll give you a good deal (I get nothing > from > > this other than to let him know I'm spreading the > word > > as a courtesy - he's a really nice guy and very > good > > businessman.) > > I have a crack on the vertical surface of our black > W123 dash near the > ignition lock. > > What would I use to repair that before it gets any > bigger? > > Thanks, > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
I do the same thing. Any time anything is done to the car, even something as minor as a car wash, it gets logged. Call it a bad habit. Now if I could just take the time to put it all in an Excel spreadsheet. Dan --- OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paperwork. I log every gallon of fuel and every > quart of oil that goes > into the car. YOu can extrapolate the miles from the > fuel used - > assuming that you have an idea from previous > experience of what the > fuel consumption is. > On the other hand, are you implying that you > actually SELL cars? I > seem to only buy them ;-) > > On 7/23/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mine is still ticking at 340,000 kms in the 300E. > It's funny this is > > brought up as I'm looking at several cars now. > Once they say the cars odo > > doesn't work, I usually walk away from it. Do you > guys take your cars with > > brokes odos in to a shop for an oil change once in > a while, just for the > > paperwork? You would show somebody that you > bought oil, but how do they > > know you haven't poured it into other cars for the > past 5 years? :-) > > > > Ed > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and > statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply > Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
Paperwork. I log every gallon of fuel and every quart of oil that goes into the car. YOu can extrapolate the miles from the fuel used - assuming that you have an idea from previous experience of what the fuel consumption is. On the other hand, are you implying that you actually SELL cars? I seem to only buy them ;-) On 7/23/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mine is still ticking at 340,000 kms in the 300E. It's funny this is > brought up as I'm looking at several cars now. Once they say the cars odo > doesn't work, I usually walk away from it. Do you guys take your cars with > brokes odos in to a shop for an oil change once in a while, just for the > paperwork? You would show somebody that you bought oil, but how do they > know you haven't poured it into other cars for the past 5 years? :-) > > Ed -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Installing new Delco R-4 Compressor
I'm replacing the compressor and the dryer in an '83 240D. According to the MB CD and the instructions that came with the new R-4 compressor from Rusty, oil must be drained from the old compressor and measured, and new oil added to the new compressor according to a formula. Can someone tell me how to drain the oil from the old compressor and add oil to the new compressor? This isn't described in 83.6-522 or 83.6-522 in the CD or in the paperwork with the new compressor. There is a brass plug with a green center near the bottom of the new compressor, and an aluminum or steel plug near the top of the new compressor which would take a special wrench to remove. Also, the CD instructions 83.6-520/3 says not to add any oil to the dryer if it is newly replaced (at the same time). Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Free motor oil
No more free oil. I just went through that whole thing, it says to click on it to join the free penzoil thing, but once you do a message come up saying they're done with that one. ---Robert Sunil Hari wrote: > http://www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp > > if you become a (free) member of their First Driver's club, then join the > "Pennzoil Platinum" campaign, they'll send you a free case of Pennzoil > platinum motor oil. I know I know, it's not Mobil 1 or Amsoil, and I'm not > trying to start yet another oil thread; I just figured some of you out there > would want "free" oil. > > Disclaimer: I joined this about 5 minutes ago to get the free oil, so I'm > not unassociated with this. But I don't receive anything if you join or > not. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
