Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry --- Based on today I might be ready to try a little sheetmetal on a car... I might have to buy Dwights 240D just as a welding project... Where to get a microwave? ;) Any thrift shop, I like St. Vinnies where I could get them (non-working) for $1. Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Sure does. Cuts way down on sticking the rod to completely the wrong thing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
With TIG, you use gas cover, tungsten electrode and filler wire. Very controllable and a clean weld. Does well with most materials, I'm not aware that you can join dissimilar materials, I doubt it. I have a cheap MiG with optional gas cover. I don't use gas anymore, the unit doesn't have power to melt the heavy wire. I have decent results using flux filed wire, less material to melt. Messy weld, like stick. Must be chipped. Anything I weld will say together un till I hit the next stump! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500, you wrote: What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry --- Based on today I might be ready to try a little sheetmetal on a car... I might have to buy Dwights 240D just as a welding project... Where to get a microwave? ;) Any thrift shop, I like St. Vinnies where I could get them (non-working) for $1. Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Sure does. Cuts way down on sticking the rod to completely the wrong thing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
My only experience is with stick and acetylene welding. Haven't quite figured out why MIGs are so popular. Easier to weld sheet metal? Constant welding without stopping to change sticks? Less power needed? Gerry - Original Message - From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] With TIG, you use gas cover, tungsten electrode and filler wire. Very controllable and a clean weld. Does well with most materials, I'm not aware that you can join dissimilar materials, I doubt it. I have a cheap MiG with optional gas cover. I don't use gas anymore, the unit doesn't have power to melt the heavy wire. I have decent results using flux filed wire, less material to melt. Messy weld, like stick. Must be chipped. Anything I weld will say together un till I hit the next stump! Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500, you wrote: What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry --- Based on today I might be ready to try a little sheetmetal on a car... I might have to buy Dwights 240D just as a welding project... Where to get a microwave? ;) Any thrift shop, I like St. Vinnies where I could get them (non-working) for $1. Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Sure does. Cuts way down on sticking the rod to completely the wrong thing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
This far from a field I have experience in from either side, but one idea a talk show guy suggested a few years ago does make sense. Make the payment some percentage higher than the actual monthly cost and them give a 'discount' for paying on time. He was talking about rent, but it should work the same, and that way the extra cost of a problem buyer and repossession is built into the deal. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL If I were to ever finance a vehicle for somebody, they would be paying a little extra AND the car would not leave until they had it paid off. Even then you can be on shakey ground. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Very good on lighter materials, need many passes to weld heavier stuff. Big plus is they only need 20 Amps @110v -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:55:53 -0500, you wrote: My only experience is with stick and acetylene welding. Haven't quite figured out why MIGs are so popular. Easier to weld sheet metal? Constant welding without stopping to change sticks? Less power needed? Gerry - Original Message - From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] With TIG, you use gas cover, tungsten electrode and filler wire. Very controllable and a clean weld. Does well with most materials, I'm not aware that you can join dissimilar materials, I doubt it. I have a cheap MiG with optional gas cover. I don't use gas anymore, the unit doesn't have power to melt the heavy wire. I have decent results using flux filed wire, less material to melt. Messy weld, like stick. Must be chipped. Anything I weld will say together un till I hit the next stump! Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500, you wrote: What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry --- Based on today I might be ready to try a little sheetmetal on a car... I might have to buy Dwights 240D just as a welding project... Where to get a microwave? ;) Any thrift shop, I like St. Vinnies where I could get them (non-working) for $1. Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Sure does. Cuts way down on sticking the rod to completely the wrong thing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel, but LOCATION, LOCATION????
Thats wierd looking, a 126 with painted hubcaps. Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hi all, Just been checking on Craigslist out here while stuck on these volcanic rocks in the Pacific. Here's one I found, but it's in Haiku, Maui Kaleb, Do you want me to arrange for delivery? http://honolulu.craigslist.org/mau/car/521725533.html Good Luck and Happy New Year... Chuck Back to Phoenix in January! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
I will give you a refund. Luther - laptop wrote: You should really fix this damn pre-chamber problem on my SDL that YOU sold me. Butthead. Luther On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:40:44 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach
That is how it makes the most sense, but I recall a similar discussion among some folk many years ago that ended up with a conclusion that such was not the case, no matter how logical. I think that conclusion was based on the results of that senario tabulated over the years. Anyone else remember that one? BillR -Original Message- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/28/07 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] speaking of the woman descended from ernst mach On Dec 28, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i can't get around the intuitive answer. you have 2 doors. one has a car. the other has a goat. shouldn't matter whether you pick 1 or 2. That's true, if your choice was to pick one of two doors initially. But that's not exactly the scenario. The entire scenario is the initial pick, the reveal of one of the wrong choices, and then the opportunity to switch your guess. The reveal of one of the wrong choices does not change the 2/3 probability that your initial guess was wrong. At least that's how it makes the most sense to me. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oooooohhh Kaleb, 560SEL
yea but where is it at Luther - laptop wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemsspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123viewitem=item=120202755831 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
When you're tacking sheetmetal together you do a little weld here, a little over there, a little in the middle, back over here, back over there, some farther along. Its nice to be able to reposition... But what I was really comparing it to was the crappy mask they give you that you have to hold with one hand while you try to work. A real mask is so much better. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:35:32 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Dec 28, 2007 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Why's that? Just because it's faster than flipping up and down an ordinary mask to inspect your work? (Not trying to argue, just about to start welding myself and interested in getting off on the right foot... although, having seen some of my soldering handiwork, Jim may feel free to point out there's no right foot for me where fire and metal are involved.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Wait, where are you at? I'm super interested in something like this... -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:54:41 -0500 From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Alex, As I understand the history of this vehicle it was born and raised in Germany. It does have both the European front and rear bumpers, but the American headlights. It has the cloth interior and is a standard. It came to America with its original purchaser in 1998/99 and I bought it in 03/04. Dave H... - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
Get whatever is cheaper that you have a port for. 99% of people don't need the extra speed that SATA gives. For video editing professionals SATA has been great and we use them in alot of different products at work but at home I've got all regular ATA. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:19:16 -0500 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Dave, Thanks for putting that parts list info together - it's often tempting to buy a bunch of parts that have good prices but as not very compatible. Sure they work, but it can end up being a Yugo with a Ferrari V12 - where one end is great but limited by the other end. Compatibility is critical to get speed. One question - is SATA the way to go? Also I haven;t kept up with all the new stuff - don;t really know what to look for. Should I be trying to connect my digital Cable TV to a computer - to save programs etc? Is that more that they can do? Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong? Anyway, thx again -- I hope others pay attention. WHile there;s lots of components available it;s importat to have them work together - Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
Pfff, what you really need is to dump Windows entirely... My P4 2.4Ghz 512MB of RAM works just fine with Linux. I don't see the need to do anything other than upgrade the RAM within the next 2 years. RAM, RAM, RAM. Thats what most people need in their computer. My folks just bought a Compaq with Vista that has a mind bending 512MB of RAM. For Christmas I bought them 2GB which has made their slugly POS into a decent machine. Of course the idiots in Redmond have continued to stick us with a 32bit OS (Vista 64 is still a pleasant dream) so 3GB of RAM is the practical max. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:25:27 -0500 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Everything coming out now is Sata. It uses one cable per device so you don't have to worry about Device ID's or Master/Slave configuration. Even CD/DVD players and tape backups are going Sata. It used to cost a premium, now it's the cheap one. Making a PC into a Tivo-like video recorder is pretty straightforward. Getting them to do HD is right at the limit of the current processing power. You don't need a quad-core, but you do need a dual-core. But that's only because Windoze (especially Vista) is a hog and needs one core just to keep track of itself. -Dave Walton - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Itsa whole different process. MIG is supposed to be better for fast and dirty welding, especially when the materials you're joining aren't perfectly clean, my snowmobile exhaust for instance. TIG makes a cleaner prettier weld but its slower because its a separate torch and filler rod deal. Its also much better for aluminium. I'd surely love to have the money for a TIG setup, of course if I did have that money I'd probably be better off spending it on a better MIG... -Curt Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New alternator makes all the difference
Okay so the new starter made my car start silently. The new alternator makes it idle much better when cold. Its amazing, before the new alternator on cold start the car would stumble for a second or two before falling into good idle, now it stumbles for maybe half a second and idles perfectly and a bit faster. At stops the headlights don't dim and the blower doesn't slow down... So it REALLY needed a new Alternator. This one is a NEW alternator from the stealership (with my Indy's discount, sorry Rusty, there was no time for shipping) so it'll hopefully last a long time. Of course on the way home a lifter decided it didn't want to pump up and clattered like the devil for a few miles. Probably because the car had several cold starts while being worked on. It did finally sort itself out and quiet down. We're due for an oil change anyway, 12 quarts of M1 5w40 are in the back seat. Yeah 12, I bought all Autozone had, I hate running short... -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
My biggest need for welding would be #1: welding fittings into 55 gallon drums and #2: constructing sheet metal tanks. I know nothing about welding (I have been an electrician building submarines for General Dynamics and do know how to inspect a weld but not perform any welding) what is the groups recommendation for a welding setup for me? Dave H... -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:54 AM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day Itsa whole different process. MIG is supposed to be better for fast and dirty welding, especially when the materials you're joining aren't perfectly clean, my snowmobile exhaust for instance. TIG makes a cleaner prettier weld but its slower because its a separate torch and filler rod deal. Its also much better for aluminium. I'd surely love to have the money for a TIG setup, of course if I did have that money I'd probably be better off spending it on a better MIG... -Curt Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
Bill, I very much like your idea. Group, Supposedly the owner of the 300SDL, in conversation, will be by with a new serpentine belt and replace it today. Also supposedly, the boy will be here on January third to pay off and take delivery of this vehicles We shall see! The boy seems to be avoiding my demand that the final payment, to avoid repossession, has to be in cash. Dave H... -- From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:57 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL This far from a field I have experience in from either side, but one idea a talk show guy suggested a few years ago does make sense. Make the payment some percentage higher than the actual monthly cost and them give a 'discount' for paying on time. He was talking about rent, but it should work the same, and that way the extra cost of a problem buyer and repossession is built into the deal. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL If I were to ever finance a vehicle for somebody, they would be paying a little extra AND the car would not leave until they had it paid off. Even then you can be on shakey ground. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be
[MBZ] Autozone M1 5w40
So a couple weeks ago I stopped to Autozone to get some Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo diesel truck for my car. #1 the clerk tried to talk me out of it Thats truck oil. #2 the case price (6 quarts per case) is $0.20 cheaper than the bottle price, whoa big savings! #3 They wouldn't give me a discount price when I was buying all the 5w40 they had (okay 12 quarts but still). #4 They only stock 12 quarts at a time so half the time they're out. I now know they get their stock on Friday afternoon so Friday night is the time to stop in. Anyway I emailed all that to Autozone corporate, lets see what happens next. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Way easier overall. Pull the trigger, the arc strikes and you weld as much as you need. I did some ARC welding but had a very hard time getting a reliable arc. Of course I was usually welding some pretty rusty stuff. My last project was all clean material and I did alot better. -Curt Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:55:53 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original My only experience is with stick and acetylene welding. Haven't quite figured out why MIGs are so popular. Easier to weld sheet metal? Constant welding without stopping to change sticks? Less power needed? Gerry - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I've been using it for about a year now -- home and work. On Dec 28, 2007 9:28 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone has gotten vista to work? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Oxy acetaline? Probably the most cost effective for those jobs depending on the metal for the tanks. #2 would be MIG which could possibly be cheaper over time and would probably be faster. ARC would be cheaper (especially for a cheap buzzbox welder) but can be difficult to weld sheetmetal with, especially if its thin. TIG would be the most expensive but would produce a very nice looking weld (although gas welding will too) and would allow you lots of flexability to weld aluminum or stainless just by changing filler rods and settings. -Curt Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:07:15 -0500 From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original My biggest need for welding would be #1: welding fittings into 55 gallon drums and #2: constructing sheet metal tanks. I know nothing about welding (I have been an electrician building submarines for General Dynamics and do know how to inspect a weld but not perform any welding) what is the groups recommendation for a welding setup for me? Dave H... - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
I have some rust repair to do on the SLC - and used to be pretty good at patching up rusted sheet metal with oxy-acetylene. Is MIG better for welding under cars, igniting less undercoating, etc.??? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I agree, Vista works great, just not on older hardware. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies I've been using it for about a year now -- home and work. On Dec 28, 2007 9:28 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone has gotten vista to work? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess who thisguy'sgrandfather is
This community comprises a Mercedes Mensa of sorts (present company excluded). On Dec 28, 2007 7:17 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say novel and interesting things. you don't get a lot of that nowadays, just more stupid propaganda. On Dec 28, 2007 5:29 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that a number of people on this list probably have high IQ. If you don't mind my asking, why are you interested in people of high intelligence such as Einstein (and Mach)? Gerry yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein, md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] oooooohhh Kaleb, 560SEL
Check out the 70 zip code. On Dec 29, 2007 9:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea but where is it at Luther - laptop wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemsspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123viewitem=item=120202755831 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autozone M1 5w40
I like Autozone so would be interested in their response. On Dec 29, 2007 10:14 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So a couple weeks ago I stopped to Autozone to get some Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo diesel truck for my car. #1 the clerk tried to talk me out of it Thats truck oil. #2 the case price (6 quarts per case) is $0.20 cheaper than the bottle price, whoa big savings! #3 They wouldn't give me a discount price when I was buying all the 5w40 they had (okay 12 quarts but still). #4 They only stock 12 quarts at a time so half the time they're out. I now know they get their stock on Friday afternoon so Friday night is the time to stop in. Anyway I emailed all that to Autozone corporate, lets see what happens next. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I would agree with Curt, as I have a laptop (15 MBP 2.0Ghz C2D, 2G RAM) that has a SATA drive in it, and I don't see a significant difference in access speeds over my former 15 G4 1.8Ghz that used ATA. I do some video field work with this machine, and I saw more of a kick in performance when I dropped a 7200 RPM drive in to replace the stock 5400 RPM drive (both SATA drives). My only thought is that SATA is more prevalent in the market now, so if you're looking for a larger and cheaper drive it will probably be a SATA drive. I just set up a 400G RAID 1 array in a G4 Quicksilver as an NAS machine for backups, and at the time I bought all ATA hardware, including the RAID controller. I wish I had gone SATA, more for the cost than anything MacDan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get whatever is cheaper that you have a port for. 99% of people don't need the extra speed that SATA gives. For video editing professionals SATA has been great and we use them in alot of different products at work but at home I've got all regular ATA. -Curt Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL; No good deed ever goes unpunished
And how! Years ago I went on a road trip to rescue of a young relative who owned a VW bug: Valve clearances had closed up and the thing overheated and stopped on the road about 100 miles from here and 80 miles from her home. I drove the 100 miles, loosened up the valves, and BTW gave her a used tire that I had ratholed, because she had no spare. She'd ruined a tire on the way. Told her I didn't know if it was good or not, but since it held air it was a lot better than no spare. She drove on home and the bug ran OK. I drove 100 miles back, and thougt how I had done something good for once. Months later she let me know the free tire had come apart after short use. Seemed to think I had made her a victim by giving her a tire that proved to be a POS. No good deed ever goes unpunished. Mark Twain said that if you take a stray dog, feed it and make it prosperous, it will not bite you, and that is the principal difference between dogs and humans. But I do not learn from all my mistakes, and continue to try to help people out when I can. DUH! Robert -- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] WROTE To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
MIG, Need one with appropriate power. Virtually all production welding on carbon steel is done with a MIG. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:07:15 -0500, you wrote: My biggest need for welding would be #1: welding fittings into 55 gallon drums and #2: constructing sheet metal tanks. I know nothing about welding (I have been an electrician building submarines for General Dynamics and do know how to inspect a weld but not perform any welding) what is the groups recommendation for a welding setup for me? Dave H... -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:54 AM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day Itsa whole different process. MIG is supposed to be better for fast and dirty welding, especially when the materials you're joining aren't perfectly clean, my snowmobile exhaust for instance. TIG makes a cleaner prettier weld but its slower because its a separate torch and filler rod deal. Its also much better for aluminium. I'd surely love to have the money for a TIG setup, of course if I did have that money I'd probably be better off spending it on a better MIG... -Curt Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
Don't change that belt with out doing a critical check on it's shock and idler! BTDT -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:44 -0500, you wrote: Bill, I very much like your idea. Group, Supposedly the owner of the 300SDL, in conversation, will be by with a new serpentine belt and replace it today. Also supposedly, the boy will be here on January third to pay off and take delivery of this vehicles We shall see! The boy seems to be avoiding my demand that the final payment, to avoid repossession, has to be in cash. Dave H... -- From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:57 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL This far from a field I have experience in from either side, but one idea a talk show guy suggested a few years ago does make sense. Make the payment some percentage higher than the actual monthly cost and them give a 'discount' for paying on time. He was talking about rent, but it should work the same, and that way the extra cost of a problem buyer and repossession is built into the deal. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL If I were to ever finance a vehicle for somebody, they would be paying a little extra AND the car would not leave until they had it paid off. Even then you can be on shakey ground. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
In theory yes as the heat is more concentrated. In practice I have no idea I've never done any gas welding. I read that on some newer cars you can't gas weld because the sheetmetal is hardened or something and gas welding will make it brittle and prone to cracking. -Curt Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:32:40 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have some rust repair to do on the SLC - and used to be pretty good at patching up rusted sheet metal with oxy-acetylene. Is MIG better for welding under cars, igniting less undercoating, etc.??? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autozone M1 5w40
Curt and all, Using your Autozone Rewards card for purchases over $20 gets you a discount of sorts! Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 8:14 am Subject: [MBZ] Autozone M1 5w40 So a couple weeks ago I stopped to Autozone to get some Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo diesel truck for my car. #1 the clerk tried to talk me out of it Thats truck oil. #2 the case price (6 quarts per case) is $0.20 cheaper than the bottle price, whoa big savings! #3 They wouldn't give me a discount price when I was buying all the 5w40 they had (okay 12 quarts but still). #4 They only stock 12 quarts at a time so half the time they're out. I now know they get their stock on Friday afternoon so Friday night is the time to stop in. Anyway I emailed all that to Autozone corporate, lets see what happens next. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
how do you like it? OK Don wrote: I've been using it for about a year now -- home and work. On Dec 28, 2007 9:28 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone has gotten vista to work? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Gas welding will add loads of carbon to any steel, hardening it. The heat from gas is much LESS concentrated (only the arc and immediately adjacent metal are heated directly in arc welding, gas you have to have a flame, and it will be much larger than even a big arc.). I would suspect that gas welding exists because it was all that was available before electric arc welding was invented. I don't know of anyone using it except as a novelty. Brazing is another story, but it's not welding. MIG is the best way to handle sheet metal as you have the most control over it, and the inert gas means no slag. TIG might even be better if you have the setup. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oooooohhh Kaleb, 560SEL
too far away andrew strasfogel wrote: Check out the 70 zip code. On Dec 29, 2007 9:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea but where is it at Luther - laptop wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemsspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123viewitem=item=120202755831 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
i bet its also messed up. You cant really replace anything till you figure out what caused the problem in the first place though. If it was driven any distance at all like that it did overheat and crack the head. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Don't change that belt with out doing a critical check on it's shock and idler! BTDT -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:44 -0500, you wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Career opportunity?
The TSA is looking for talented candidates in the Dallas area to 'work on the front lines of our nation's airports in an ongoing effort to secure the homeland.'TSA at DFW International Airport (DFW) and Dallas Love Field (DAL) are seeking full- and part-time transportation security officers (TSOs). Wages range from $11.30 to $16.96 per hour depending on experience, plus locality pay. All full- and part-time employees are eligible for full health and life insurance benefits, retirement, and paid annual leave (vacation) and sick leave. After the attacks of 9/11, TSA hired over 50,000 TSOs in a matter of months to comply with a Congressional mandate that the agency outfit the nation's commercial airports with a federal screening workforce. According to TSA's latest release, TSOs provide front line security and protect travelers by identifying dangerous objects in baggage and on passengers. They prevent threat objects from being transported onto aircraft by utilizing diverse, cutting-edge electronic detection technology and imaging equipment as well as lessons learned from a concentrated training curriculum. They add that, A career in aviation security provides the opportunity to defend and protect the country and our freedoms while assisting the movement of people and commerce. By law, all candidates must meet the following minimum requirements: 1) U.S. citizen or U. S. national with proficiency in English 2) High school diploma, GED or equivalent or at least one full year of applicable work experience 3) Customer service skills, honesty, integrity and dependability 4) Physical ability to repeatedly lift and carry baggage weighing at least 70 pounds 5) Mental ability to observe and identify objects 6) Pass a background investigation, including a criminal check, financial suitability and pre-employment drug screening 7) Visual, auditory and physical standards necessary to prevent threats from getting on-board aircraft FMI: www.tsa.gov, Interested individuals can apply online at www.tsa.gov (click on Join Us) or www.usajobs.gov. - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Career opportunity?
Sounds like a huge turnover problem, eh? A friend of mine was a TSA screener for a while -- that didn't last long (ex MP). Lousy pay and, shall we say, less that coherent management? The thought of minimum wage baggage screeners makes my skin crawl. And yes, since the Canadian dollar is on par with the US dollar these days, that range is minimum wage (C$12.50 in 1993). Sad. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
*Anyone* can do a decent mig weld the same day they first try it. Tig actually requires some coordination. Start off with an old brake rotor and move your way down to a coffee can. Thinner materials are harder to weld. With a Mig welder and a plasma cutter, you can do about anything. -Dave Walton On Dec 29, 2007 10:07 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My biggest need for welding would be #1: welding fittings into 55 gallon drums and #2: constructing sheet metal tanks. I know nothing about welding (I have been an electrician building submarines for General Dynamics and do know how to inspect a weld but not perform any welding) what is the groups recommendation for a welding setup for me? Dave H... -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:54 AM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day Itsa whole different process. MIG is supposed to be better for fast and dirty welding, especially when the materials you're joining aren't perfectly clean, my snowmobile exhaust for instance. TIG makes a cleaner prettier weld but its slower because its a separate torch and filler rod deal. Its also much better for aluminium. I'd surely love to have the money for a TIG setup, of course if I did have that money I'd probably be better off spending it on a better MIG... -Curt Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. Gerry - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
I am no welder, so know that up front. What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices on TIG welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that it's easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when welding different metals together. I think that might be better worded welding a variety of different metals. Yes, in that case. My only experience is with stick and acetylene welding. Haven't quite figured out why MIGs are so popular. Easier to weld sheet metal? Constant welding without stopping to change sticks? Less power needed? Yes. I have some rust repair to do on the SLC - and used to be pretty good at patching up rusted sheet metal with oxy-acetylene. Is MIG better for welding under cars, igniting less undercoating, etc.??? The heat is much more concentrated and localized. The nickname for MIG is glue gun. And so it is, when welding under optimal conditions. My take is that TIG is the new-and-improved version of gas welding, and that MIG is the new-and-improved stick welder, and that both _are_ considerable improvements. Not that either can completely replace their predecessors, the well-rounded welding dilettante will have all of the equipment, of course. I still don't have a TIG setup, but occasionally I wish I did. But I will want one that has excellent small-piece capabilities. (For example, Frankensteining a new end on a fried switch contact. I'd like to be able to do that if required.) If _all_ you could have was one, gas is the most flexible. Besides welding, there's cutting, brazing, heavy soldering, heating, bending. But there's a lot of waste heat to deal with. MIG is nice for sheet metal, and regular joining. But stick can have more power, and has a considerably better selection of more exotic filler material, such as hard-facing, etc. It's probably also the cheapest method, especially if you score rod at yard and clearance sales. You can also use it to thaw metal pipes. MIG can do aluminum, but really requires additional special equipment. (Spool gun and argon tank.) MIG (or TIG) was required to fix the rust hole in the trunk channel on that 380SL. Stick would have been too crude, unless perhaps in the hands of a real artist. Gas has too much waste heat, no way I could have done it without ruining the nearby paint that shows. IMHO, you will really eventually need them all. But I _am_ a tool junkie. (OK, I don't know why one would need a carbon arc kit for the stick welder, given the presence of gas. So naturally I have a cheap and nasty one, it came with the house!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel Bike
Just came across this - cool! http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/05/22/hydrostatic-drive-diesel-motorcycle/ Dan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
TIG is tungsten inert gas -- the mateial used to fill is separate from the arc, so can be anything. The arc is between a tungsten electrode (which theoretically won't melt) and the base material -- fill material is a rod inserted into the arc so that it melts into the base material. In a completely inert atmosphere you can weld things like magnesium and titanium which would combust otherwise, even under CO2. My brother reports that it requires much more dexterity than MIG as you have to keep both hands coordinated, not just one! For sheer bulk fill, it's hard to beat rods, and you are not limited to the ability to draw materials into wire, but even there a wire feed MIG is a nice thing -- you can keep welding continuously with no need to remove slag from the barrier material. Yes, I've seen people who can keep an continuous arc with a stick for a long time, but wire is easier and yeilds better welds most of the time (no trapped slag filled voids). . And yes, MIG welding, particularly on sheet metal, seems to require much less practice and skill -- a great boon to those of us who only weld once in a while, not every day! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oooooohhh Kaleb, 560SEL
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:52:51 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: too far away andrew strasfogel wrote: Check out the 70 zip code. On Dec 29, 2007 9:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea but where is it at From the QA, the car is in FOLSOM,LA 70437 which is 674 miles from Claremore, OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:17:46 -0800 (PST) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would agree with Curt, as I have a laptop (15 MBP 2.0Ghz C2D, 2G RAM) that has a SATA drive in it, and I don't see a significant difference in access speeds over my former 15 G4 1.8Ghz that used ATA. But have you compared with a laptop that has a 2.5 ATA drive? Going from my desktop to my laptop, I notice a very large drop in disk access speed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New S400 Diesel Hybrid
The new RT tells about the new S400 Bluetec Hybrid sedan which will get the diesel V6 along with a 20hp electric motor - said to get 40+ MPG on the highway - 50 state compliant, 265hp with 465 lb. ft torque. 0-60 in 7.2 sec. performance of a V8 and economy of a 4 cyl - available in 2010. (Geez, seems like we were all worrying about Y2K just *very* recently - now 2010 is almost here - time is flying by!) No word on price -- maybe the RT or MB websites have more info? Happy New Year -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New S400 Diesel Hybrid
I think the previous S was also available in a twin turbo diesel, but we didn't get it here? Wonder if they'll offer an S with just the diesel, and not the hybrid option over there in the future too? Ed 300E On 29/12/2007, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new RT tells about the new S400 Bluetec Hybrid sedan which will get the diesel V6 along with a 20hp electric motor - said to get 40+ MPG on the highway - 50 state compliant, 265hp with 465 lb. ft torque. 0-60 in 7.2 sec. performance of a V8 and economy of a 4 cyl - available in 2010. (Geez, seems like we were all worrying about Y2K just *very* recently - now 2010 is almost here - time is flying by!) No word on price -- maybe the RT or MB websites have more info? Happy New Year -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
Those were exactly my thoughts as well, but drive away he did??? What have I done to that poor SDL:( Concerning the Red brick: The boy wants to pay me with a certified cashier's check from Bank of America. Anything I should be careful of? DAve H... Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz i bet its also messed up. You cant really replace anything till you figure out what caused the problem in the first place though. If it was driven any distance at all like that it did overheat and crack the head. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Don't change that belt with out doing a critical check on it's shock and idler! BTDT -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:44 -0500, you wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Autozone M1 5w40
I believe Autozone also has a rarely mentioned military/retired military discount. Dave H... -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:45 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autozone M1 5w40 Curt and all, Using your Autozone Rewards card for purchases over $20 gets you a discount of sorts! Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 8:14 am Subject: [MBZ] Autozone M1 5w40 So a couple weeks ago I stopped to Autozone to get some Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo diesel truck for my car. #1 the clerk tried to talk me out of it Thats truck oil. #2 the case price (6 quarts per case) is $0.20 cheaper than the bottle price, whoa big savings! #3 They wouldn't give me a discount price when I was buying all the 5w40 they had (okay 12 quarts but still). #4 They only stock 12 quarts at a time so half the time they're out. I now know they get their stock on Friday afternoon so Friday night is the time to stop in. Anyway I emailed all that to Autozone corporate, lets see what happens next. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
Yeah - if he can pay with a certified BofA check, why isn't he paying with cash? Cash only, esp from this weasel. On Dec 29, 2007 2:37 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those were exactly my thoughts as well, but drive away he did??? What have I done to that poor SDL:( Concerning the Red brick: The boy wants to pay me with a certified cashier's check from Bank of America. Anything I should be careful of? DAve H... Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz i bet its also messed up. You cant really replace anything till you figure out what caused the problem in the first place though. If it was driven any distance at all like that it did overheat and crack the head. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Don't change that belt with out doing a critical check on it's shock and idler! BTDT -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:44 -0500, you wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Wonder if anyone has ever built a motorized mask with a pushbutton on the stick holder. Push the button and the mask flips up, push it again and it flips down. Bet someone on the list could build one if they wanted to. Gerry --- When you're tacking sheetmetal together you do a little weld here, a little over there, a little in the middle, back over here, back over there, some farther along. Its nice to be able to reposition... But what I was really comparing it to was the crappy mask they give you that you have to hold with one hand while you try to work. A real mask is so much better. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:35:32 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Dec 28, 2007 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Why's that? Just because it's faster than flipping up and down an ordinary mask to inspect your work? (Not trying to argue, just about to start welding myself and interested in getting off on the right foot... although, having seen some of my soldering handiwork, Jim may feel free to point out there's no right foot for me where fire and metal are involved.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess whothisguy'sgrandfather is
I wonder if there are any regular Mensa members on the list? Gerry -- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] This community comprises a Mercedes Mensa of sorts (present company excluded). --- On Dec 28, 2007 7:17 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say novel and interesting things. you don't get a lot of that nowadays, just more stupid propaganda. On Dec 28, 2007 5:29 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that a number of people on this list probably have high IQ. If you don't mind my asking, why are you interested in people of high intelligence such as Einstein (and Mach)? Gerry yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. -- On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). -- On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein,md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: German technology
Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- next part -- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: German technology Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:39:15 EST Size: 870172 Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071229/8cf3954b/attachment.mht ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: German technology
Jim, All I got was HTML... (I think) and an AOL Food Recipe site Take care, Chuck On Dec 29, 2007, at 8:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) -- next part -- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: German technology Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:39:15 EST Size: 870172 Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20071229/8cf3954b/attachment.mht ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
Hi, Now at age 61 I still sometimes gas weld when the torch is portable and I have no want to drag out the gennie powered stick welder. Flame welding is as good as any other in some cases. Carbon is formed by the torch being adjusted without a neutral flame i.e. too hot with too much Oxygen. Slow down the heat and take your time to do a proper weld. I have welded aluminum castings with a propane torch. I have seen others weld aluminum sheet metal with a oxy-acetylene small torch. Use the right size torch for the job at hand. A cutting/heating torch is not a do-all tool. Ed in Chicago Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gas welding will add loads of carbon to any steel, hardening it. The heat from gas is much LESS concentrated (only the arc and immediately adjacent metal are heated directly in arc welding, gas you have to have a flame, and it will be much larger than even a big arc.). I would suspect that gas welding exists because it was all that was available before electric arc welding was invented. I don't know of anyone using it except as a novelty. Brazing is another story, but it's not welding. MIG is the best way to handle sheet metal as you have the most control over it, and the inert gas means no slag. TIG might even be better if you have the setup. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guesswhothisguy'sgrandfather is
archer wrote: I wonder if there are any regular Mensa members on the list? I looked into it, the requirements were so far below my ability that I didn't think I'd prove anything by joining. (and didn't see any benefit to membership other than being able to say I was a member) Seems like 90th percentile on Graduate Management Admission Test was one way to qualify. What's that, about a 600 score out of 800? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
Dave H... wrote: The boy wants to pay me with a certified cashier's check from Bank of America. Anything I should be careful of? Getting arrested? http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7174 Normally I'd say take it to the local BoA branch and exchange it for cash, but stories like I linked above give me pause. How much does he owe? More than would be reasonable to carry in your pocket in cash? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: German technology
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:06:36 -1000 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, All I got was HTML... (I think) and an AOL Food Recipe site And if you go to the link at the bottom of the email, you get a text email with an .wmv video (also in text) attached. Sounds like you need to try it again. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
--- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But have you compared with a laptop that has a 2.5 ATA drive? Going from my desktop to my laptop, I notice a very large drop in disk access speed. Craig That was my point. My former laptop had a 2.5 ATA 100G 5400 RPM drive, my new one came with the same, only in SATA. I benchmarked both - I don't have the data at hand, but I was surprised that the difference was not significant (to me.) Dan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S-class diesel
Mercedes Introduces New High-End V8 Diesel for S Class/11 December 2006 Mercedes-Benz is extending its S-Class range with another diesel variant, the S 420 CDI. The new eight-cylinder model is powered by a 4.0-liter V8 CDI engine developing 235 kW (320 hp) of power at 3,600 rpm and 730 Nm (538 lb-ft) of peak torque from 2,000 rpm. This latest addition to the model line-up means that the luxury sedan range from Mercedes-Benz now encompasses two diesel engines, six petrol models and two body variants, along with the new 4MATIC all-wheel-drive system. The new S 420 CDI is available to order now, with deliveries to customers due to start in December 2006. The S 420 CDI powers from 0-100 kph in 6.6 seconds and has a top speed of 250 kph (155 mph), with fuel consumption figures of 9.4 to 9.6 litres of diesel per 100 kilometers on the NEDC cycle (24.5 to 25 mpg US). That makes the S 420 the second-most fuel efficient vehicle in the S series, behind the V6 S 320 CDI, which, with 173 kW (235 hp) of power and 540 Nm of torque consumes between 8.3 to 8.6 l/100km (27.4 to 28.3 mpg US). The closest comparable gasoline vehicle in the series—the 4.7-liter V8 S 450 (250 kW and 460 Nm) consumes 11.2 to 11.5 l/100 km (20.5 to 21 mpg US) of fuel. As another point of comparison, the hybrid powertrain in the Lexus LS 600h L combines a new 5.0-liter gasoline direct-injection V8 with large, high-output electric motors and a newly-designed battery pack to deliver more than 330 kW (442 hp) of total system power with fuel consumption of less than 9.5 liters/100km (more than 25 mpg US). In the S 420 CDI, third-generation common-rail high-pressure injection technology with a maximum injection pressure of 1,600 bar and an ignition pressure of 175 bar contributes to efficient combustion. Optimized flow dynamics for the best possible gas cycle and twin turbochargers with variable-nozzle turbines support high power and torque delivery. As many as five injections of diesel fuel per injection cycle, special orifice nozzles, piezoelectric injectors and highly effective exhaust gas recirculation all help to lower emissions significantly. The new V8 powerplant is equipped as standard with a maintenance-free diesel particulate filter to cut untreated emissions even further, and also complies with the Euro 4 emissions standard. The engine development team was able to reduce noise levels by optimizing the chain drive and fitting a rigid crankcase with large engine bearings as well as extra acoustic covers. The square bore-to-stroke ratio combines with a counter-rotating balancer shaft for outstandingly smooth operation. The engine is mated with a seven-speed automatic featuring a wide ratio spread. ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:38:21 -0800 (PST) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But have you compared with a laptop that has a 2.5 ATA drive? Going from my desktop to my laptop, I notice a very large drop in disk access speed. Craig That was my point. My former laptop had a 2.5 ATA 100G 5400 RPM drive, my new one came with the same, only in SATA. I benchmarked both - I don't have the data at hand, but I was surprised that the difference was not significant (to me.) Oh, I see what you're saying. It matches my experience. The mechanisms in 2.5 disks are slow and won't saturate an ATA interface let alone a SATA interface, so changing from ATA to SATA makes little, if any difference. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The death of high fidelity
The death of music, more likely. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/1619/the_death_of_high_fidelity/print ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
More than likely he's financing the balance and the check is from the bank. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 2:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz Yeah - if he can pay with a certified BofA check, why isn't he paying with cash? Cash only, esp from this weasel. On Dec 29, 2007 2:37 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those were exactly my thoughts as well, but drive away he did??? What have I done to that poor SDL:( Concerning the Red brick: The boy wants to pay me with a certified cashier's check from Bank of America. Anything I should be careful of? DAve H... Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz i bet its also messed up. You cant really replace anything till you figure out what caused the problem in the first place though. If it was driven any distance at all like that it did overheat and crack the head. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Don't change that belt with out doing a critical check on it's shock and idler! BTDT -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:44 -0500, you wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 12/29/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
I have always thought the high fidelity stereo sounded better in the 50's and 60's that it did in later years and the present. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The death of music, more likely. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/1619/the_death_of_high_fidelity/print ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
I emailed him back asking why he could not just pay in cash. His response: I need some kind of receipt. My response: Better come with either cash or during banking hours when WE can go to the bank and get the cash. This past summer I really got S'd when I explicitly asked for cash or a certified check, accepted the check and then found out it was a Credit Card Check. It took 30 days for that credit card check to clear. Don't make that mistake folks! Dave H... -- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:06 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz More than likely he's financing the balance and the check is from the bank. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 2:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz Yeah - if he can pay with a certified BofA check, why isn't he paying with cash? Cash only, esp from this weasel. On Dec 29, 2007 2:37 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those were exactly my thoughts as well, but drive away he did??? What have I done to that poor SDL:( Concerning the Red brick: The boy wants to pay me with a certified cashier's check from Bank of America. Anything I should be careful of? DAve H... Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz i bet its also messed up. You cant really replace anything till you figure out what caused the problem in the first place though. If it was driven any distance at all like that it did overheat and crack the head. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Don't change that belt with out doing a critical check on it's shock and idler! BTDT -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:44 -0500, you wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 12/29/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D
Well I hope that someone can answer this for me. Yes I am still working on it. It seems that the system only wants to deliver heat. This is through the correct vents. Now I am thinking that the in car sensor is calling for heat. So I change the sensor, install it near the speaker and then it only calls for heat. If I stick it in the side vent I am able to select different temperature settings with the console dial. I am going to disconnect the foam tube and see if it will work on different temp settings. What is going on with that tube is it a vacuum to draw air in slightly from the cabin? Any and all ideas appreciated. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OTL Rollaway doors
_http://www.disappearing-car-door.com_ (http://www.disappearing-car-door.com) This is a video Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Check out Disappearing Car Door
_Click here: Disappearing Car Door_ (http://www.disappearing-car-door.com/) Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Check out Disappearing Car Door
Jim, When are you going to install them on the 300SD? Chuck On Dec 29, 2007, at 11:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Click here: Disappearing Car Door_ (http://www.disappearing-car- door.com/) Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
Fidelity = true to source. Not today! Vacuum tube amps always sound much better than transistor amps, as they don't clip (covert too high an amplitude sine wave to a flat topped wave, with extra harmonics). Takes an enormous capacity transistor to not clip, and tubes never do. Other than the background hiss of electrons flying an inch or so, they are much nicer. Some problems with exact reproduction due to internal hysteresis, but that's present in transistor amps, too. Given that MP3 compressions are rather extreme (and everyone has crappy amplifiers in their iPods and etc turned up way beyond ear damage level --why anyone MAKES an amplifier that puts out more than 80 dB in those things is beyond me), the norm now is really bad reproduction, mostly of really poor musical quality stuff to start with (a stick on a plastic trash can over one's head, sort of). No one remembers what real sound was, nothing is live anymore (rock concerts are mostly tape, I believe), and most listeners have hearing damage, there is no hope. It's been going downhill for a long time, every since orchestral music was no longer recorded with a pair of mikes in the auditorium and was instead mixed from one stuffed up each instrument. Digitization has markedly degraded things since, as it's way too easy to fiddle it later. I'm all for live and recordings ON TAPE IN ANALOG with unchanged reproduction. Not a chance in the bad place, I guess. Ditto for photography, by the way -- digital is easier, but I'm unconvinced that it's better. Just the old curmudgeon here. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D
Replace the aspirator motor, there is a small fan that pulls air across the sensor. If it's bad, you will get the same effect as no hose -- the temp will shoot way up and way down in the car as heat or cooling slowly penetrate to the sensor. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
i'm thinking, what would phil spector do about all this? then it occurs to me that he'd just shoot some woman. On Dec 29, 2007 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The death of music, more likely. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/1619/the_death_of_high_fidelity/print ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guess whothisguy'sgrandfather is
i had the highest IQ on the banned list when we all took the internet IQ test. this means i'm about as smart as a moron can get! On Dec 29, 2007 2:08 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there are any regular Mensa members on the list? Gerry -- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] This community comprises a Mercedes Mensa of sorts (present company excluded). --- On Dec 28, 2007 7:17 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say novel and interesting things. you don't get a lot of that nowadays, just more stupid propaganda. On Dec 28, 2007 5:29 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that a number of people on this list probably have high IQ. If you don't mind my asking, why are you interested in people of high intelligence such as Einstein (and Mach)? Gerry yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. -- On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). -- On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein,md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
Peter, I'm an old vacuum tube guy and I still restore vacuum tube radios and amps today. Some corrections additions: Vacuum tubes will do clip. A vacuum tube is a voltage controlled device while a transistor is a current controlled device and either can be driven to clip. Clipping is nothing more than the device being turned all the way on or off before the input signal reaches full potential. Transisitor clipping is sharper than vacuum tube clipping. Vacuum tube amps distort more than transistor amps and the vacuum tube distortion is interpreted as a warmer sound. Transistor amp manufacturers have not been able to duplicate this distortion because it's mechanical - it's in the physical tube design itself. I can still hear the difference in the old radios amps I work on today. You believe the sound from a vacuum tube amp is higher quality because it actually sounds better. Put a scope on the output of a tube amp a transistor amp and compare the difference and it's obvious that the transistor amp output is cleaner. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Fidelity = true to source. Not today! Vacuum tube amps always sound much better than transistor amps, as they don't clip (covert too high an amplitude sine wave to a flat topped wave, with extra harmonics). Takes an enormous capacity transistor to not clip, and tubes never do. Other than the background hiss of electrons flying an inch or so, they are much nicer. Some problems with exact reproduction due to internal hysteresis, but that's present in transistor amps, too. Given that MP3 compressions are rather extreme (and everyone has crappy amplifiers in their iPods and etc turned up way beyond ear damage level --why anyone MAKES an amplifier that puts out more than 80 dB in those things is beyond me), the norm now is really bad reproduction, mostly of really poor musical quality stuff to start with (a stick on a plastic trash can over one's head, sort of). No one remembers what real sound was, nothing is live anymore (rock concerts are mostly tape, I believe), and most listeners have hearing damage, there is no hope. It's been going downhill for a long time, every since orchestral music was no longer recorded with a pair of mikes in the auditorium and was instead mixed from one stuffed up each instrument. Digitization has markedly degraded things since, as it's way too easy to fiddle it later. I'm all for live and recordings ON TAPE IN ANALOG with unchanged reproduction. Not a chance in the bad place, I guess. Ditto for photography, by the way -- digital is easier, but I'm unconvinced that it's better. Just the old curmudgeon here. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 12/29/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: German technology
I dunno...looking at the slideshow made me hungry. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: German technology On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:06:36 -1000 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, All I got was HTML... (I think) and an AOL Food Recipe site And if you go to the link at the bottom of the email, you get a text email with an .wmv video (also in text) attached. Sounds like you need to try it again. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S-class diesel
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:40:06 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mercedes Introduces New High-End V8 Diesel for S Class/11 December 2006 Is this a typo or an old announcement? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guesswhothisguy'sgrandfather is
You should wear that like a badge of honor Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guesswhothisguy'sgrandfather is i had the highest IQ on the banned list when we all took the internet IQ test. this means i'm about as smart as a moron can get! On Dec 29, 2007 2:08 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there are any regular Mensa members on the list? Gerry -- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] This community comprises a Mercedes Mensa of sorts (present company excluded). --- On Dec 28, 2007 7:17 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say novel and interesting things. you don't get a lot of that nowadays, just more stupid propaganda. On Dec 28, 2007 5:29 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that a number of people on this list probably have high IQ. If you don't mind my asking, why are you interested in people of high intelligence such as Einstein (and Mach)? Gerry yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. -- On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). -- On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30; y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein,md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
Isn't all the wicked high-end audiophile stuff still tube? Like MacIntosh for example? Heck, the vacuum tube radio in my '63 Falcon sounded great! Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:31 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Peter, I'm an old vacuum tube guy and I still restore vacuum tube radios and amps today. Some corrections additions: Vacuum tubes will do clip. A vacuum tube is a voltage controlled device while a transistor is a current controlled device and either can be driven to clip. Clipping is nothing more than the device being turned all the way on or off before the input signal reaches full potential. Transisitor clipping is sharper than vacuum tube clipping. Vacuum tube amps distort more than transistor amps and the vacuum tube distortion is interpreted as a warmer sound. Transistor amp manufacturers have not been able to duplicate this distortion because it's mechanical - it's in the physical tube design itself. I can still hear the difference in the old radios amps I work on today. You believe the sound from a vacuum tube amp is higher quality because it actually sounds better. Put a scope on the output of a tube amp a transistor amp and compare the difference and it's obvious that the transistor amp output is cleaner. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Fidelity = true to source. Not today! Vacuum tube amps always sound much better than transistor amps, as they don't clip (covert too high an amplitude sine wave to a flat topped wave, with extra harmonics). Takes an enormous capacity transistor to not clip, and tubes never do. Other than the background hiss of electrons flying an inch or so, they are much nicer. Some problems with exact reproduction due to internal hysteresis, but that's present in transistor amps, too. Given that MP3 compressions are rather extreme (and everyone has crappy amplifiers in their iPods and etc turned up way beyond ear damage level --why anyone MAKES an amplifier that puts out more than 80 dB in those things is beyond me), the norm now is really bad reproduction, mostly of really poor musical quality stuff to start with (a stick on a plastic trash can over one's head, sort of). No one remembers what real sound was, nothing is live anymore (rock concerts are mostly tape, I believe), and most listeners have hearing damage, there is no hope. It's been going downhill for a long time, every since orchestral music was no longer recorded with a pair of mikes in the auditorium and was instead mixed from one stuffed up each instrument. Digitization has markedly degraded things since, as it's way too easy to fiddle it later. I'm all for live and recordings ON TAPE IN ANALOG with unchanged reproduction. Not a chance in the bad place, I guess. Ditto for photography, by the way -- digital is easier, but I'm unconvinced that it's better. Just the old curmudgeon here. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 12/29/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
I got one for X-mas. Jury is still out since i am running it on a mac with VGA instead of DVI. Sort of fuzzy. Might be because the video card is low res (16meg( clay On 28 Dec 2007, at 11:36, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:57:34 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My seven year old 19 CRT is getting on in age, anybody know of a good deal on a 19-26 flat panel monitor, preferably not widescreen? I'm thinking about replacing our ViewSonic PS790 for a flat panel for lower power consumed and lower magnetic emissions. The difficulty is determining who makes a good monitor. I understand that the Samsung monitors are pretty good. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D
I don't believe this model used an aspirator motor. Instead it used an ejector (air jet nozzle) driven by bleed air from the blower. Maybe that or the connections to it are bad? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 17:15 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D Replace the aspirator motor, there is a small fan that pulls air across the sensor. If it's bad, you will get the same effect as no hose -- the temp will shoot way up and way down in the car as heat or cooling slowly penetrate to the sensor. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
it's all a whole different game now. it's a game of high volume at a low price. it's about making stuff that can be transferred from place to place quickly and easily. the internet is the new paradigm. the days of silver halide are long gone and images are what works for myspace. we got pissed off when film went to tape and now tape looks like a bargain compared to mp4. there is a story i've told many times before, so i'll tell it again. dude takes his 8x10 camera out to the national park to do the ansel adams. he takes a picture of the hill across the valley. on the developed picture, she sees something that looks a little different. he blows it up and sees it is a parking lot. he blows up the parking lot, and there is a yellow school bus. he blows up the school bus and sees a license plate. he blows up the license plate and sees it is from alberta and reads the number. but you can't stop progress. we can be luddites in our spare time and mess with the old day, but i think we either keep up with the technology or we just get left behind. On Dec 29, 2007 5:12 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fidelity = true to source. Not today! Vacuum tube amps always sound much better than transistor amps, as they don't clip (covert too high an amplitude sine wave to a flat topped wave, with extra harmonics). Takes an enormous capacity transistor to not clip, and tubes never do. Other than the background hiss of electrons flying an inch or so, they are much nicer. Some problems with exact reproduction due to internal hysteresis, but that's present in transistor amps, too. Given that MP3 compressions are rather extreme (and everyone has crappy amplifiers in their iPods and etc turned up way beyond ear damage level --why anyone MAKES an amplifier that puts out more than 80 dB in those things is beyond me), the norm now is really bad reproduction, mostly of really poor musical quality stuff to start with (a stick on a plastic trash can over one's head, sort of). No one remembers what real sound was, nothing is live anymore (rock concerts are mostly tape, I believe), and most listeners have hearing damage, there is no hope. It's been going downhill for a long time, every since orchestral music was no longer recorded with a pair of mikes in the auditorium and was instead mixed from one stuffed up each instrument. Digitization has markedly degraded things since, as it's way too easy to fiddle it later. I'm all for live and recordings ON TAPE IN ANALOG with unchanged reproduction. Not a chance in the bad place, I guess. Ditto for photography, by the way -- digital is easier, but I'm unconvinced that it's better. Just the old curmudgeon here. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guesswhothisguy'sgrandfather is
What do you mean you wonder if there are any Mensa members? Aren't most of us here men? Gee, I mean come on - duh :) Dave H... -- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] bet none of you would be able to guesswhothisguy'sgrandfather is i had the highest IQ on the banned list when we all took the internet IQ test. this means i'm about as smart as a moron can get! On Dec 29, 2007 2:08 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there are any regular Mensa members on the list? Gerry -- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] This community comprises a Mercedes Mensa of sorts (present company excluded). --- On Dec 28, 2007 7:17 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say novel and interesting things. you don't get a lot of that nowadays, just more stupid propaganda. On Dec 28, 2007 5:29 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that a number of people on this list probably have high IQ. If you don't mind my asking, why are you interested in people of high intelligence such as Einstein (and Mach)? Gerry yes, which is, strangely, not a made up name, but her mother's maiden name. her father's last name is, not surprisingly, mach. -- On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: You're referring to Marilyn Vos Savant (sounds like a made-up name to me). -- On Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some claims regarding illegitimate children of einstein, but the woman you are referring to claims descent from einstein precursor ernst mach. On Dec 28, 2007 2:22 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many used books about Einstein at good prices on: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=albert+einsteinsts=tx=30y=17 A lady with a column in Parade Magazine (newspaper insert), who supposedly has the highest IQ ever measured, is rumoured to be a descendant of Einstein. She admits to being the descendant of a famous person but will not tell who it is. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] not at all. i'm on an einstein kick lately and that man is the genuine blood article. it's actually any easy line to follow. albert has 3 known children, but only 1 lives to have children. that one has 3 children, one died in infancy in 1938, one is adopted (who makes claims to being actually albert's illegitimate child, but this claim cannot be substantiated) and is still alive and the third is the pictured dr einstein. so dr einstein,md, and his 3 children are the only living legitimate blood descendents to the famous dr albert einstein. put the hair on him though and the resemblance is pretty clear, huh? --- On Dec 28, 2007 1:17 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're kidding, right? Where's the unruly hair? On Dec 28, 2007 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: http://www.clavin.com/clavin_dr/einstein.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V-8 diesel
Is this a typo or an old announcement? It was in response to a post about this engine as though it were new even though it's a year old now. It is in fact MB's second S-Class V-8 diesel, the first one having a bit more displacement. So, the announcement is a year old about an engine that now should be in an E-Class replacing the E63 gasser, for example. IMHO. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
The vacuum tube radio in your 63 falcon sounded great because all of the space behind the speaker helped with the base. I also probably had a 3X9 oval speaker in the dash that helped some. These days, everyone wants to build round speakers but they don't have the same dynamic range. There have been some new amp designs with vacuum tube finals they sound great for the same reasons the old ones sound great (re. prev. post). There are also FET based designs. FETs are voltage controled transistors share some tube characteristics but they still don't sound the same as tube amps. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Isn't all the wicked high-end audiophile stuff still tube? Like MacIntosh for example? Heck, the vacuum tube radio in my '63 Falcon sounded great! Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:31 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Peter, I'm an old vacuum tube guy and I still restore vacuum tube radios and amps today. Some corrections additions: Vacuum tubes will do clip. A vacuum tube is a voltage controlled device while a transistor is a current controlled device and either can be driven to clip. Clipping is nothing more than the device being turned all the way on or off before the input signal reaches full potential. Transisitor clipping is sharper than vacuum tube clipping. Vacuum tube amps distort more than transistor amps and the vacuum tube distortion is interpreted as a warmer sound. Transistor amp manufacturers have not been able to duplicate this distortion because it's mechanical - it's in the physical tube design itself. I can still hear the difference in the old radios amps I work on today. You believe the sound from a vacuum tube amp is higher quality because it actually sounds better. Put a scope on the output of a tube amp a transistor amp and compare the difference and it's obvious that the transistor amp output is cleaner. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Fidelity = true to source. Not today! Vacuum tube amps always sound much better than transistor amps, as they don't clip (covert too high an amplitude sine wave to a flat topped wave, with extra harmonics). Takes an enormous capacity transistor to not clip, and tubes never do. Other than the background hiss of electrons flying an inch or so, they are much nicer. Some problems with exact reproduction due to internal hysteresis, but that's present in transistor amps, too. Given that MP3 compressions are rather extreme (and everyone has crappy amplifiers in their iPods and etc turned up way beyond ear damage level --why anyone MAKES an amplifier that puts out more than 80 dB in those things is beyond me), the norm now is really bad reproduction, mostly of really poor musical quality stuff to start with (a stick on a plastic trash can over one's head, sort of). No one remembers what real sound was, nothing is live anymore (rock concerts are mostly tape, I believe), and most listeners have hearing damage, there is no hope. It's been going downhill for a long time, every since orchestral music was no longer recorded with a pair of mikes in the auditorium and was instead mixed from one stuffed up each instrument. Digitization has markedly degraded things since, as it's way too easy to fiddle it later. I'm all for live and recordings ON TAPE IN ANALOG with unchanged reproduction. Not a chance in the bad place, I guess. Ditto for photography, by the way -- digital is easier, but I'm unconvinced that it's better. Just the old curmudgeon here. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 12/29/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
Call BoA and make sure the CC is valid - not counterfeit and bought for the face amount. They will have a record of it and should be able to tell you pretty quickly. If they give you any trouble tell them if the CC bounces you will tell TV/News/everyone how BoA refused to tell you if one of their products was legit and that you were screwed out of $X directly because of BoA's inaction and lack of customer service.. That usually gets their attention. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz Those were exactly my thoughts as well, but drive away he did??? What have I done to that poor SDL:( Concerning the Red brick: The boy wants to pay me with a certified cashier's check from Bank of America. Anything I should be careful of? DAve H... Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz i bet its also messed up. You cant really replace anything till you figure out what caused the problem in the first place though. If it was driven any distance at all like that it did overheat and crack the head. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Don't change that belt with out doing a critical check on it's shock and idler! BTDT -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:11:44 -0500, you wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
you have anything to say about those cheap 1 or 2 tube preamps that are popping up all over the place now to give you a warmer sound? to my mind, they work in some limited contexts with big speakers where muddying the sound up a big helps, but mostly it's just a useless gimmick. they even have ipod dock/speakers with a tube now, which htey have mounted in the subwoofer. On Dec 29, 2007 5:52 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vacuum tube radio in your 63 falcon sounded great because all of the space behind the speaker helped with the base. I also probably had a 3X9 oval speaker in the dash that helped some. These days, everyone wants to build round speakers but they don't have the same dynamic range. There have been some new amp designs with vacuum tube finals they sound great for the same reasons the old ones sound great (re. prev. post). There are also FET based designs. FETs are voltage controled transistors share some tube characteristics but they still don't sound the same as tube amps. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Isn't all the wicked high-end audiophile stuff still tube? Like MacIntosh for example? Heck, the vacuum tube radio in my '63 Falcon sounded great! Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:31 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Peter, I'm an old vacuum tube guy and I still restore vacuum tube radios and amps today. Some corrections additions: Vacuum tubes will do clip. A vacuum tube is a voltage controlled device while a transistor is a current controlled device and either can be driven to clip. Clipping is nothing more than the device being turned all the way on or off before the input signal reaches full potential. Transisitor clipping is sharper than vacuum tube clipping. Vacuum tube amps distort more than transistor amps and the vacuum tube distortion is interpreted as a warmer sound. Transistor amp manufacturers have not been able to duplicate this distortion because it's mechanical - it's in the physical tube design itself. I can still hear the difference in the old radios amps I work on today. You believe the sound from a vacuum tube amp is higher quality because it actually sounds better. Put a scope on the output of a tube amp a transistor amp and compare the difference and it's obvious that the transistor amp output is cleaner. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Fidelity = true to source. Not today! Vacuum tube amps always sound much better than transistor amps, as they don't clip (covert too high an amplitude sine wave to a flat topped wave, with extra harmonics). Takes an enormous capacity transistor to not clip, and tubes never do. Other than the background hiss of electrons flying an inch or so, they are much nicer. Some problems with exact reproduction due to internal hysteresis, but that's present in transistor amps, too. Given that MP3 compressions are rather extreme (and everyone has crappy amplifiers in their iPods and etc turned up way beyond ear damage level --why anyone MAKES an amplifier that puts out more than 80 dB in those things is beyond me), the norm now is really bad reproduction, mostly of really poor musical quality stuff to start with (a stick on a plastic trash can over one's head, sort of). No one remembers what real sound was, nothing is live anymore (rock concerts are mostly tape, I believe), and most listeners have hearing damage, there is no hope. It's been going downhill for a long time, every since orchestral music was no longer recorded with a pair of mikes in the auditorium and was instead mixed from one stuffed up each instrument. Digitization has markedly degraded things since, as it's way too easy to fiddle it later. I'm all for live and recordings ON TAPE IN ANALOG with unchanged reproduction. Not a chance in the bad place, I guess. Ditto for photography, by the way -- digital is easier, but I'm unconvinced that it's better. Just the old curmudgeon here. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 12/29/2007 1:27 PM
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
yes, you can flat-top a tube amp output, but it doesn't produce the bouncing that a transistor amp does when the output voltage hits maximum, I don't believe -- the output just tapers off to the maximum with no internal reflections at higher frequencies. Reduces amplitude of the output, but doesn't make the horrible screech an overdriven transistor amp does. I used to have very very good high frequency hearing (alas, most of it's gone now) -- I could hear ultrasonic alarms, for instance, and the horizontal driver on TV's used to drive me nuts. A clipping transistor amp was physically painful to me, my friends in college used to laugh at me when I clapped my hands over my ears and fled the room. True, a transistor amp will give a much cleaner waveform, but only until you clip, which isn't that hard to do in a complex sound, even with a high quality amp. I can handle the distortion from tube amps a lot better than the screech from overdriven transistor amps! I wonder what could be done with tube technology today -- so far as I know, not much research has been done with that technology in the last 40 years or so except for radio transmission amps Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
It is true that the Apple Macbook Pro is the best computer to run vista. So if Kaleb is looking to upgrade to that OS, he should look at getting a Mac clay On 28 Dec 2007, at 19:25, dave walton wrote: Everything coming out now is Sata. It uses one cable per device so you don't have to worry about Device ID's or Master/Slave configuration. Even CD/DVD players and tape backups are going Sata. It used to cost a premium, now it's the cheap one. Making a PC into a Tivo-like video recorder is pretty straightforward. Getting them to do HD is right at the limit of the current processing power. You don't need a quad-core, but you do need a dual-core. But that's only because Windoze (especially Vista) is a hog and needs one core just to keep track of itself. -Dave Walton On Dec 28, 2007 8:19 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, Thanks for putting that parts list info together - it's often tempting to buy a bunch of parts that have good prices but as not very compatible. Sure they work, but it can end up being a Yugo with a Ferrari V12 - where one end is great but limited by the other end. Compatibility is critical to get speed. One question - is SATA the way to go? Also I haven;t kept up with all the new stuff - don;t really know what to look for. Should I be trying to connect my digital Cable TV to a computer - to save programs etc? Is that more that they can do? Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong? Anyway, thx again -- I hope others pay attention. WHile there;s lots of components available it;s importat to have them work together - Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies I use http://www.pricewatch.com/ and Google shopping (http://www.google.com/prdhp?hl=entab=wf) to find stuff. Pricewatch includes shipping in the price comparison, google does not. Vendors have to pay for placement in Pricewatch, Google is free once they work out the details of the data feed. The Asus M2A-VM HDMI motherboard is priced right at $80 from Amazon, a matching AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4800+ 2.5GHz processor is $100, Kingston has 2 gig of ECC DDR2 800 Ram for $60. That will give you a barebones system that will output 1080p HDMI to your new TV. You will need a copy of CyberLink Power DVD Ultra to play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies - plus a HD reader of course. You can get a copy of XP Media Center Edition cheap off eBay, or go for Vista Ultimate - and turn it into a Tivo-like recorder. If you have cable, you can get the ATI CableCard USB HDTV box for $300 and watch and record HD TV. Add a TV Tuner and/or HDTV tuner to get on-air broadcasts. XP Media Center Edition limits you to 4 tuners, Vista only does 2. 500Gb Sata drives are $90. I happen to be putting one of these together this week. -Dave Walton On Dec 28, 2007 10:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D
Scott I looked at the blower and there is a side port for the sensor tube though I continues to the kick panel? What the hell does it connect to! I think I need to go to pick and pull. I would really hate to have to replace something behind the fender with all that glue! Thanks.. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
What you hear is the sharp cutoff I mentioned in my earlier post. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity yes, you can flat-top a tube amp output, but it doesn't produce the bouncing that a transistor amp does when the output voltage hits maximum, I don't believe -- the output just tapers off to the maximum with no internal reflections at higher frequencies. Reduces amplitude of the output, but doesn't make the horrible screech an overdriven transistor amp does. I used to have very very good high frequency hearing (alas, most of it's gone now) -- I could hear ultrasonic alarms, for instance, and the horizontal driver on TV's used to drive me nuts. A clipping transistor amp was physically painful to me, my friends in college used to laugh at me when I clapped my hands over my ears and fled the room. True, a transistor amp will give a much cleaner waveform, but only until you clip, which isn't that hard to do in a complex sound, even with a high quality amp. I can handle the distortion from tube amps a lot better than the screech from overdriven transistor amps! I wonder what could be done with tube technology today -- so far as I know, not much research has been done with that technology in the last 40 years or so except for radio transmission amps Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 12/29/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
I've not heard one or looked the output on a scope but they probably do work if they are taking advantage of the distortion a tube applies to a signal. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity you have anything to say about those cheap 1 or 2 tube preamps that are popping up all over the place now to give you a warmer sound? to my mind, they work in some limited contexts with big speakers where muddying the sound up a big helps, but mostly it's just a useless gimmick. they even have ipod dock/speakers with a tube now, which htey have mounted in the subwoofer. On Dec 29, 2007 5:52 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vacuum tube radio in your 63 falcon sounded great because all of the space behind the speaker helped with the base. I also probably had a 3X9 oval speaker in the dash that helped some. These days, everyone wants to build round speakers but they don't have the same dynamic range. There have been some new amp designs with vacuum tube finals they sound great for the same reasons the old ones sound great (re. prev. post). There are also FET based designs. FETs are voltage controled transistors share some tube characteristics but they still don't sound the same as tube amps. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Isn't all the wicked high-end audiophile stuff still tube? Like MacIntosh for example? Heck, the vacuum tube radio in my '63 Falcon sounded great! Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:31 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Peter, I'm an old vacuum tube guy and I still restore vacuum tube radios and amps today. Some corrections additions: Vacuum tubes will do clip. A vacuum tube is a voltage controlled device while a transistor is a current controlled device and either can be driven to clip. Clipping is nothing more than the device being turned all the way on or off before the input signal reaches full potential. Transisitor clipping is sharper than vacuum tube clipping. Vacuum tube amps distort more than transistor amps and the vacuum tube distortion is interpreted as a warmer sound. Transistor amp manufacturers have not been able to duplicate this distortion because it's mechanical - it's in the physical tube design itself. I can still hear the difference in the old radios amps I work on today. You believe the sound from a vacuum tube amp is higher quality because it actually sounds better. Put a scope on the output of a tube amp a transistor amp and compare the difference and it's obvious that the transistor amp output is cleaner. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 12/29/07 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity Fidelity = true to source. Not today! Vacuum tube amps always sound much better than transistor amps, as they don't clip (covert too high an amplitude sine wave to a flat topped wave, with extra harmonics). Takes an enormous capacity transistor to not clip, and tubes never do. Other than the background hiss of electrons flying an inch or so, they are much nicer. Some problems with exact reproduction due to internal hysteresis, but that's present in transistor amps, too. Given that MP3 compressions are rather extreme (and everyone has crappy amplifiers in their iPods and etc turned up way beyond ear damage level --why anyone MAKES an amplifier that puts out more than 80 dB in those things is beyond me), the norm now is really bad reproduction, mostly of really poor musical quality stuff to start with (a stick on a plastic trash can over one's head, sort of). No one remembers what real sound was, nothing is live anymore (rock concerts are mostly tape, I believe), and most listeners have hearing damage, there is no hope. It's been going downhill for a long time, every since orchestral music was no longer recorded with a pair of mikes in the auditorium and was instead mixed from one stuffed up each instrument. Digitization has markedly degraded things since, as it's way too easy to fiddle it later. I'm all for live and recordings ON TAPE IN ANALOG with unchanged reproduction. Not a chance in the bad place, I guess. Ditto for photography, by the way -- digital is easier, but I'm unconvinced that it's better. Just the old curmudgeon here. Peter
[MBZ] Marshall Booth, email archive
Through the generous hosting for Wonko the Sane - aka Lt. Don the collection of Marshall's posts to this list are accessible. http://don.homelinux.net/~don/marshall-mail/maillist.html These were pulled from my collection. Dates span from early 2002 to 2007 Oct - with some gaps. So all you folks who didn't get to know him and his writing while he was alive can still benefit from his knowledge and experience. And also get to know him the same way many of us did. Enjoy! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Marshall Booth, email archive
Phillip, Thanks!!! Chuck Phoenix AZ On Dec 29, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: Through the generous hosting for Wonko the Sane - aka Lt. Don the collection of Marshall's posts to this list are accessible. http://don.homelinux.net/~don/marshall-mail/maillist.html These were pulled from my collection. Dates span from early 2002 to 2007 Oct - with some gaps. So all you folks who didn't get to know him and his writing while he was alive can still benefit from his knowledge and experience. And also get to know him the same way many of us did. Enjoy! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D
I did a research on air jet nozzle and one of the articles said there is a service repair in the manual. 83-122/1. Does any one have access to the manual and maybe can send it to me? Please. I am not going to give up on this. I have done so much, and am so close! Thanks.. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day
That would be a huge step backwards from a modern instant mask. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:33:06 -0500, you wrote: Wonder if anyone has ever built a motorized mask with a pushbutton on the stick holder. Push the button and the mask flips up, push it again and it flips down. Bet someone on the list could build one if they wanted to. Gerry --- When you're tacking sheetmetal together you do a little weld here, a little over there, a little in the middle, back over here, back over there, some farther along. Its nice to be able to reposition... But what I was really comparing it to was the crappy mask they give you that you have to hold with one hand while you try to work. A real mask is so much better. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:35:32 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Dec 28, 2007 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh and for you amatuer welders out there: a self darkening welding helmet makes ALL the difference in the world. Why's that? Just because it's faster than flipping up and down an ordinary mask to inspect your work? (Not trying to argue, just about to start welding myself and interested in getting off on the right foot... although, having seen some of my soldering handiwork, Jim may feel free to point out there's no right foot for me where fire and metal are involved.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Bike
I'd be wary of hydrostatic drive systems, especially in something like a bike. In the early 80's John Deere put a hydrostatic front wheel drive assist system in their 40 series 2wd tractors. The system was not successful and apparently every now and then the front wheels would lock up. Although hydrostatic drive systems are standard on harvesters these days and work well there in the most part but I would not ride a bike with hydro drive. LWB250 wrote: Just came across this - cool! http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/05/22/hydrostatic-drive-diesel-motorcycle/ Dan Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
Well, against my better judgement I'll wade into this discussion. Full disclosure: I'm a tube guy...I'm also a high end audio geek. My Cd player is tube, my preamp is tube, and until I moved overseas, my monoblocks were 845 based tubes. The second largest tube still made. They are all single-ended Class A design, NOT A/b. If you heard my system and replaced any ONE item with solid state stuff you would immediately know and wonder where the good sound went. It's all a matter of persoanl taste and style. I like being able to fiddle with my system. Tube rolling is a lot of fun and allows you, if you're persnickety enough, to tailor the sound of each album you listen to without resorting to EQing. (Tube rolling is the substitution of different manufacturer or model of tube to achieve different sound characteristics. ) BTW, I also greatly prefer the sound from vinyl to CD. There is a huge world of difference. It's the difference between hearing a recording, or being there. Don't even start me on mp3'sI had enough trouble having to do live pro sound for the last ten years and never being fully happy with the results. My musical taste runs across a broad spectrum. VERY broad. Not much time for a lot of newer stuff although there are decent bits here and there. Most people want their music to be like wallpaper...to be seen but not really noticed. The true artistry is being cheapened, but hey, that's what most people want and they can have it. I'll stick with my stuff while they chuckle up their sleeve at my archaic mindset. I recently picked up a budget release of Buddy Holly's hits. Never been a big fan of his, but had to admire the incredible job the engineers did on the soundespecially when all they had was MAYBE a two track setup and no compression. Ditto my 1954 Billie Holiday, and the original UK release of DSOM by Floyd on Harvest. Nirvana's Unplugged album on vinyl is pretty good, as is Clapton's and Neil Young's. (Neil's an audio geek too) Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control 1980 300D
I am going to disconnect the foam tube and see if it will work on different temp settings. What is going on with that tube is it a vacuum to draw air in slightly from the cabin? Exactly. The 124/126 use aspirator motors, others just tap the suck side of the main blower. (Not sure about the 201.) If either side is disconnected, due to jostling or foam rot, cabin temperature regulation goes all to hell. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL and Red Stick Benz
The boy wants to pay me with a certified cashier's check from Bank of America. If you also have an account at BofA, you can just use a transfer slip. I've bought/sold several cars that way. Right there in the lobby. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Marshall Booth, email archive
That is very generous of both of you. Thanks. Chris K Cayce, SC On Dec 29, 2007, at 6:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: Through the generous hosting for Wonko the Sane - aka Lt. Don the collection of Marshall's posts to this list are accessible. http://don.homelinux.net/~don/marshall-mail/maillist.html These were pulled from my collection. Dates span from early 2002 to 2007 Oct - with some gaps. So all you folks who didn't get to know him and his writing while he was alive can still benefit from his knowledge and experience. And also get to know him the same way many of us did. Enjoy! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The death of high fidelity
Ditto my 1954 Billie Holiday, and the original UK release of DSOM by Floyd on Harvest. Nirvana's Unplugged album on vinyl is pretty good, as is Clapton's and Neil Young's. (Neil's an audio geek too) I'm fortunate to have a Sheffield album or two in my stash. A number of OMR releases, too. Nice work, that stuff, though I don't have the sound system to do it any justice, but it always did sound pretty good on the Stax. My turntable was always crap. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
