Re: [MBZ] Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread LarryT
I think there's somethng about doing something learned years ago that allows 
concentration to take over and remove the tremors.  I'll bet he got great 
pleasure from afternoons like you spent with him --  hopefully others 
stepped in when you were not there -

Course, shooting is a great sport whch is sadly disappearing with the loss 
of more and more easily accessible ranges.   I suspect surburban sprawl is 
making the land more valuable as a housing tract...

Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air guns


Dad and I were at the range one time and a couple old fellers were there 
with their .45s.
One of the guys had Parkinsons so bad he had to put the pistol and the 
magazine on the table and slowly slide them together...
We all backed away when he brought that pistol up to shoot but it was 
amazing, as he brought the gun up all sign of the tremor ceased and he was 
just as steady as a rock. He then proceeded to shoot different handloads 
through a chronograph. This was a window chrono so he had to keep all his 
shots to about a 4 window or he'd have blown his chrono apart.
When he first went for a mag change I offered to help which he greatly 
appreciated. I spent most of a day with him, changing mags and refilling 
them. He shot about 300 rounds all of which would have taken up no more 
space than the bottom of a soda can...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:20:20 -0400
From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Air guns
To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I have a Crossman pump pellet gun I use occasionally on pigeons way up on
top of my Georgian Revival slate roof (nearly 3 floors up) - usually hit 'em
fairly easily so far. 'Haven't done it in little over a year. When my
tremor was really bad, wife would see me coming back in the house after
dispatching coupla pigeons and ask, How can you hit anything with your
hands shaking so? Answer: 'Don't shake resting against a tree or fence
post.

Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Wilton Strickland wrote:
 BTW, the refrigeration guy asked if I wanted him to pass out cards to MB
 owners for me.  

Great idea. You can do 124  126 evaporator swaps and 115 heater blowers
for $1k each. Do one a month for two years and you can get a nice shiny
2005 320CDI.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] incredible service from Rusty

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 When my quote comes in, all others are not important.  The world 
 revolves
 around me, or so Hursty says.

He would think so.  Something to do with the dimpling of the
space time continuum around his orbicity, and assuming it's
that way for everybody else too.  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:36:37 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wilton Strickland wrote:
  BTW, the refrigeration guy asked if I wanted him to pass out cards to
  MB owners for me.  
 
 Great idea. You can do 124  126 evaporator swaps and 115 heater blowers
 for $1k each. Do one a month for two years and you can get a nice shiny
 2005 320CDI.

BTW, Wilton, what were the symptoms that prompted your evacpectomy?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL no a/c

2008-06-19 Thread dave walton
Might want to try letting the engine heat up and rechecking. Could be
normally open that closes when it comes up to temp. Or vice-versa.

-Dave Walton

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That sensor plug is keyed and cannot be reversed?  I've applied some Deoxit 
 to all of the coolant sensor connectors.  I've checked the resistances of all 
 of the coolant sensors, and the 3 pronged green (see the picture link) showed 
 open to ground, and open across all 3 combinations of prongs.  Sounds like it 
 isn't good?

 picture is here: http://www.gulseth.net/photos/coolant-sensor.jpg
 Luther

 On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:36:34 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I believe that the coolant sensor for the ACC is in a dual element
 sensor on the engine - one set of pins for the ACC, the other for the
 idle control.  The AC on my SDL would turn off the compressor as soon
 as the coolant hit 80C - the PO had reversed the sets of wires on that
 sensor. The AC worked great after I switched those two  plugs.

 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, test results are all normal except for the following:
 Sensor Ground test, Pin 8 (coolant temp)=open
 Vacuum flaps, pin 8 (short DEF Flap)=1k ohms

 Maybe I have a bad (hopefully unplugged) coolant sensor.




 --
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 '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
 '82 300CD (166 kmi)
 '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
 '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL no a/c

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 No, the Klima was NOT told to turn the a/c on.  Pin 10 at the Klima 
 mount read open on the Ohm meter.  I pulled the ACC and it's WA 
 different from the

I think that SDL has the refrigerant safety switch in that line.
Often it's the last thing on the way to the compressor, but I think
in that car it's in the 'signal' rather than the 'power' path.

 123s that I'm familiar with.  How do you get these buggers appart and 
 what are the normal failure modes?  I can see several caps on the 
 bottom circuit board, so I'm guessing that it's similar to the cruise 
 amp repair?  Or should I

Pretty similar.  It has a processor in it, and a whole buncha
components.  But the switches are still prone to connection cracking.
I don't recall specific details about how to open it, it's got a
bunch of clamshell snaps, etc.

  test this unit before attempting repair?

Almost always, in the absence of definitive symptoms.

 OK, test results are all normal except for the following:
 Sensor Ground test, Pin 8 (coolant temp)=open
 Vacuum flaps, pin 8 (short DEF Flap)=1k ohms

The coolant sensor may be unplugged, which ought to only
prevent the system from heating unless you jump-start it
by punching DEF first.  I don't think it affects the AC.

 Maybe I have a bad (hopefully unplugged) coolant sensor.
 What does the vacuum flap reading mean?

It means the short DEF flap probably doesn't do what it's
supposed to, which means that your defroster duct is never
fully closed.  So you lose some AC to the windshield.  (If
it was working.)  Broken connection, or burned out solenoid
in the vacuum valve.  Or, possibly, I've got the reference
point for that one wrong.

Keep in mind that I made that checklist from poring over
the car's schematic, and not all of it has been verified
by actually doing it.  I was refining that checklist when
I got employment again, and basically dropped it.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL no a/c

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 Pin 10 at the Klima mount read open on the Ohm meter.  I pulled the ACC

With both out you can ohm out the wire between them.  Klima
pin 10 to ACC X1 pin 7.  If it's not zero ohms, then the
refrigerant sensor (which I think is in there) is at fault.
Or disconnected.  Or, doing what it's supposed to!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL no a/c

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 With both out you can ohm out the wire between them.  Klima
 pin 10 to ACC X1 pin 7.  If it's not zero ohms, then the
 refrigerant sensor (which I think is in there) is at fault.
 Or disconnected.  Or, doing what it's supposed to!

I just checked the schematic.  The pressure switch _is_
in between the ACC and the Klima pin 10.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Bill R
I've found few things he would not eat [celery comes to mind] so I suspect
rabbit would suit him.  I wouldn't mind a smaller feed bill for the family
either.  He already spends some of his outdoor time chasing them, but they
are smart enough to stay near a fence for quick escape.  I'm not all that
interested in cleaning up the leftovers from my yard, though.
BillR

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Yeah thought of that but then you have to go into the neighbors garden 
to get the evidence without being seen and if that works all it takes is 
for someone to see that poor little bunny flopping around from a poor 
shot, I'm not that good anymore, and the jig is up.

Hey Bill doesn't that little puppy of yours like rabbit? Just tell him 
it tastes like chicken!

Manfred



Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:30:36 -0400
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]


MG wrote:
   As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a
  neighborhood is
  to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in
  the country.

A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if
  you
can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and
  make
it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the
  silenced
pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make virtually
  no noise,
just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve.

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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Bill R
I may need the squirrel recipes if they get into the attic again or food
costs continue to rise.
BillR

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Bill, I have a few recipes somewhere, even very old ones from a book 
from the 1800s. For those little critters you can use one of those 1000 
or 1200fps air rifles. The little rats don't make any noise if you don't 
hit them right so it's a lot easier to get another shot it.

Manfred


Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:00:01 -0400
From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   Mom came out yesterday and told me she was getting
  an
awful racket out of her chimney [also covered with wire mesh], so I
  assume
they are trying another assault on the attic.  Good recipes for
  squirrel?  A
few hundred $$ later I have had it with those pests.
BillR

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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yeah, and enjoy my work at the same time, but I'd have to have an indoor,
air-conditioned facility.

Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy


 Wilton Strickland wrote:
  BTW, the refrigeration guy asked if I wanted him to pass out cards to MB
  owners for me.

 Great idea. You can do 124  126 evaporator swaps and 115 heater blowers
 for $1k each. Do one a month for two years and you can get a nice shiny
 2005 320CDI.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Two years ago, refrigeration guy determined evap leaking.  Recharged coupla
times a year since.
Coupla months ago, system wouldn't hold charge a month - time to bite the
bullet.

BTW, refrigeration guy refused the evactomy job; stealer wanted $3100; indy
wanted $2400 for basic evapectomy.  I changed all vac pods while I had it
open.

Wilton

- Original Message -
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy


 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:36:37 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wilton Strickland wrote:
   BTW, the refrigeration guy asked if I wanted him to pass out cards to
   MB owners for me.
 
  Great idea. You can do 124  126 evaporator swaps and 115 heater blowers
  for $1k each. Do one a month for two years and you can get a nice shiny
  2005 320CDI.

 BTW, Wilton, what were the symptoms that prompted your evacpectomy?


 Craig

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[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
How is the OVP mounted.  Does it simply plug into a fixed base receptacle,
or what?

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
Slick, with gun and means of transportation, sporting a new nickname: Paladin

Way to go, Wilton!

At 07:04 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
'Not a geezer yet, either.  No, I don't wear shorts, black knee socks and
sandals, though those who do are very welcome and free to do so if they
want.  My uniform of the day is almost always full length khaki pants,
light blue short sleeve shirt, black or brown socks and black or brown SAS
shoes, all of proper size and well-laundered, pressed/ironed to complement
the well-groomed gentleman within.

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air guns


  Hmmm,. you might be better classified as a geezer in that situation?
  Or maybe those are interchangeable designations (or the key factor might
  be whether you have shorts and black knee socks on with sandals).
 
  --R
 
  Wilton Strickland wrote:
   Yeah, I've wondered what a passerby thinks when he sees what he may
think is
   a codger pushing a walker across the yard and carrying a rifle.
  
   Wilton, no codger
  
  
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 How is the OVP mounted.  Does it simply plug into a fixed base 
 receptacle,
 or what?

In my 126, yes.  Right next to the Klima, near the fuse box.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL no a/c

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 I just checked the schematic.  The pressure switch _is_
 in between the ACC and the Klima pin 10.

In commemoration of somebody actually using the checklist,
I added a socket picture of the Klima.  (I pulled the Klima
from the car, and got out the schematic again.)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] So far so good with vacuum pump overhaul

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Installed my overhauled vacuum pump last night and started up the car. 
No vacuum at all.  It was dark, and I was frustrated, so I went to bed. 
In the middle of the night I woke up with the realization that I had
installed one of the check valves upside down.  This morning, I was able
to remove the cover with the body of the pump in place and flip that one
valve over.  Brakes and shut-off are now working flawlessly -- but since
the problem was always intermittent I am going to have to wait a little
while to be sure it's fixed.  But so far, so good.

Allan
--
1983 300D



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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

2008-06-19 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 10:04 PM -0400 6/18/08, Gary Hurst wrote:

and thoughts on how to shrink it?  what about wearing it with an 80s style
sweatband?

Traditional method:  Roll up a strip of newspaper, tuck it inside the headband.

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] So far so good with vacuum pump overhaul

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
ATTABOY, Allen!

Wilton

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 Installed my overhauled vacuum pump last night and started up the car. 
 No vacuum at all.  It was dark, and I was frustrated, so I went to bed. 
 In the middle of the night I woke up with the realization that I had
 installed one of the check valves upside down.  This morning, I was able
 to remove the cover with the body of the pump in place and flip that one
 valve over.  Brakes and shut-off are now working flawlessly -- but since
 the problem was always intermittent I am going to have to wait a little
 while to be sure it's fixed.  But so far, so good.
 
 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Rick Knoble
 Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My 
 younger son picks off squirrels out at
 the lake because my mother does not want them in the attic etc. It is too 
 close in to town and we are not legally
 permitted to discharge firearms so we keep it pretty quiet.

I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer 
hitting the cartridge.

Caveats,
YMMV
My 2¢
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote:

 I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer 
 hitting the cartridge.

Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those?
I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good.

I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little 
difference in sound 
from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle.


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Re: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

2008-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
Just get a fatter head!

At 09:41 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
yeah, that's my thought, except i'm not that confident the hat won't fall
apart. might be worth a shot though.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  How 'bout wetting it, then heat it.
 
  Wilton
 
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  Subject: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?
 
 
   i bought some cheap chinese clearance hats mail order.  my head measures
   about 59 1/2 cm and it seems from my adventure at the western store
  messing
   with cowboy hats that a 7 1/2 works best for me in a nice stiff stetson.
   this would make me an XL on the charts, so i order 3 very cheap chinese
   straw hats, one in large and two in xl.  two of them fit well enough, but
   the third is just way too big.  i would not get enough on a return to
  make
   it worth shipping back.  i don't like the idea of just throwing it out
  and
  i
   don't happen to know any giant headed people who might want it.
  
   and thoughts on how to shrink it?  what about wearing it with an 80s
  style
   sweatband?
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Re: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

2008-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
Seriously, how about sewing a rolled up bandanna/sweatband into 
it?  That should have the same effect as growing a fat head!

At 09:41 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
yeah, that's my thought, except i'm not that confident the hat won't fall
apart. might be worth a shot though.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  How 'bout wetting it, then heat it.
 
  Wilton
 
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  Subject: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?
 
 
   i bought some cheap chinese clearance hats mail order.  my head measures
   about 59 1/2 cm and it seems from my adventure at the western store
  messing
   with cowboy hats that a 7 1/2 works best for me in a nice stiff stetson.
   this would make me an XL on the charts, so i order 3 very cheap chinese
   straw hats, one in large and two in xl.  two of them fit well enough, but
   the third is just way too big.  i would not get enough on a return to
  make
   it worth shipping back.  i don't like the idea of just throwing it out
  and
  i
   don't happen to know any giant headed people who might want it.
  
   and thoughts on how to shrink it?  what about wearing it with an 80s
  style
   sweatband?
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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
CBs are for short range.  Should be ok for 25 yd or so.  I used them 
to shoot pests in the barn.  They won't put holes through 
things.  Anything I ever shot at with a CB was dead.  BB caps are a 
different story.

Are you talking about BB caps?  they have a round .22 inch round 
ball.  Not so accurate.  A CB is essentially a .22 short powered by 
the primer, or maybe a little more.  A very short powder charge, anyway.

At 10:19 AM 6/19/2008, you wrote:
Rick Knoble wrote:

  I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear 
 is the hammer hitting the cartridge.

Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those?
I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy 
wasn't very good.

I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but 
there's little difference in sound
from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle.


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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Rick Knoble
 Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those?
 I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very 
 good.
 
 I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little 
 difference in sound 
 from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle.

Not bad accuracy from about 20-25 yards. You have to sight them in tho'. So 
slow you can damn near watch the bullet arc toward the target. I am able to 
kill a 35 lbs. woodchuck at about twenty yards with one shot. 

Caveats,
YMMV
My 2¢
Rick Knoble 
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Re: [MBZ] 73 220D....What gear ratio rear diff?

2008-06-19 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 6/18/2008 6:01:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What is  the gear ratio in the rear diff of my 73 220D with manual tranny?
Also, is  fourth gear a 1:1 final drive?



Mike,
 
For the 115 D22, my Nitske bible has the US gear ratio as 4.08:1   Euro 
versions were 3.92:1.  4th gear is direct, at 1:1.
 
1st gear is 3.90:1 (stump pulling gear)
2nd gear is 2.30:1 
3rd gear is 1.41:1  

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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread LarryT
I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so 
accuracy beyond 10' is not very good.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g


 Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My 
 younger son picks off squirrels out at
 the lake because my mother does not want them in the attic etc. It is too 
 close in to town and we are not legally
 permitted to discharge firearms so we keep it pretty quiet.

I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the 
hammer hitting the cartridge.

Caveats,
YMMV
My 2¢
Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] Was gas cost $10/g- Now Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread LarryT
Check out the GAMO air rifles available a www.airgunwarehouseinc.com

The GAMO rifles are the ones I saw in a video knocking raccoons down on the 
1st shot.

They've come a long way since the Red Ryder from Daisy!

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was gas cost $10/g- Now Air guns


I used to have a crossman 1377 long ago.  Squirrels are driving me
 nuts so went to find another. Not available locally, order out. Screw
 that, so I got the plastic 760 pump.  Been unable to verify a kill
 yet.  Damn critters just get concussed or fall.  Then they crawl away
 before I can kill them.

 Short distance shots, since the neighbor is less than five feet from
 property line and I do not want to hit his home or take out his kids.

 clay

 On 18 Jun 2008, at 02:30, Mitch Haley wrote:

 MG wrote:
  As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a
 neighborhood is
 to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in
 the country.

 A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad,
 especially if you
 can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it
 and make
 it scream. If you want to mess with high pressure air, some of the
 silenced
 pre charged pneumatics I've seen at Field Target matches make
 virtually no noise,
 just a little click or ping from the hammer tapping the poppet valve.

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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote:
 I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so 
 accuracy beyond 10' is not very good.

Try these:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=972593t=11082005

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=678232t=11082005

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[MBZ] CB Caps WAS: What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
If the light is right, you absolutely can see the 
bullet travelling.  It is the relatively slow 
velocity that allows you to pick off pests with very minimal noise.

As far as ballistics, you can also pick off pests 
quietly at close range with a slingshot, a 
crossbow or an arrow, with similar or better 
ballistics.  I like the cb because the rifle is 
easy to store and carry.  I guess a slingshot is 
easier and lighter to store and carry.

At 10:57 AM 6/19/2008, you wrote:
  Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those?
  I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, 
 but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good.
 
  I've had decent accuracy with Remington and 
 CCI subsonics, but there's little difference in sound
  from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle.

Not bad accuracy from about 20-25 yards. You 
have to sight them in tho'. So slow you can damn 
near watch the bullet arc toward the target. I 
am able to kill a 35 lbs. woodchuck at about twenty yards with one shot.

Caveats,
YMMV
My 2¢
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT



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Re: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

2008-06-19 Thread Bill R
OK, I've been holding back but this has sunk to my level now.  I was going
to suggest thumbtacks to hold it on.
BillR

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On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

Just get a fatter head!

At 09:41 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
yeah, that's my thought, except i'm not that confident the hat won't fall
apart. might be worth a shot though.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  How 'bout wetting it, then heat it.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message -
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  Subject: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?
 
 
   i bought some cheap chinese clearance hats mail order.  my head
measures
   about 59 1/2 cm and it seems from my adventure at the western store
  messing
   with cowboy hats that a 7 1/2 works best for me in a nice stiff
stetson.
   this would make me an XL on the charts, so i order 3 very cheap
chinese
   straw hats, one in large and two in xl.  two of them fit well enough,
but
   the third is just way too big.  i would not get enough on a return to
  make
   it worth shipping back.  i don't like the idea of just throwing it out
  and
  i
   don't happen to know any giant headed people who might want it.
  
   and thoughts on how to shrink it?  what about wearing it with an 80s
  style
   sweatband?
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Re: [MBZ] Was gas cost $10/g- Now Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote:
 Check out the GAMO air rifles available a www.airgunwarehouseinc.com
 
 The GAMO rifles are the ones I saw in a video knocking raccoons down on the 
 1st shot.
 

Too much has been made of airgun power, especially in the 'more is better'
nation of USA. The airgun makers have been getting magnumitis, because
power sells. (I was guilty too, bought a RWS 48 Magnum as my first high
end air rifle, then eventually detuned it to make it more accurate and
pleasant to shoot)

Anything that can penetrate a racoon's braincase can take it out with
one shot. Forget about chest shots, I don't even try for heart/lungs
with a rimfire any more. Generally speaking the Spanish Gamo has been
cheaper/cruder than the German Weihrauch and RWS products of comparable
performance. The only Gamo I ever owned was a 126 as seen in this auction,
a fine tool but not finished to the high standards of Anshutz or Feinwerkbau.
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8363612


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[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Ordered OVP from Rusty yesterday afternoon; at my front door late this
morning.  Thanks.
Wife out somewhere with the car.  'Hope both are ok.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, that will be my second choice.  first i will try soaking and blow
drying.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Seriously, how about sewing a rolled up bandanna/sweatband into
 it?  That should have the same effect as growing a fat head!

 At 09:41 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
 yeah, that's my thought, except i'm not that confident the hat won't fall
 apart. might be worth a shot though.
 
 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   How 'bout wetting it, then heat it.
  
   Wilton
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
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   Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:04 PM
   Subject: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?
  
  
i bought some cheap chinese clearance hats mail order.  my head
 measures
about 59 1/2 cm and it seems from my adventure at the western store
   messing
with cowboy hats that a 7 1/2 works best for me in a nice stiff
 stetson.
this would make me an XL on the charts, so i order 3 very cheap
 chinese
straw hats, one in large and two in xl.  two of them fit well enough,
 but
the third is just way too big.  i would not get enough on a return to
   make
it worth shipping back.  i don't like the idea of just throwing it
 out
   and
   i
don't happen to know any giant headed people who might want it.
   
and thoughts on how to shrink it?  what about wearing it with an 80s
   style
sweatband?
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Re: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

2008-06-19 Thread R A Bennell
More hair. Just skip the haircut for another month and see if it fits.

Randy

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Seriously, how about sewing a rolled up bandanna/sweatband into 
it?  That should have the same effect as growing a fat head!

At 09:41 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
yeah, that's my thought, except i'm not that confident the hat won't fall
apart. might be worth a shot though.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  How 'bout wetting it, then heat it.
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message -
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  To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
  Mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:04 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?
 
 
   i bought some cheap chinese clearance hats mail order.  my head measures
   about 59 1/2 cm and it seems from my adventure at the western store
  messing
   with cowboy hats that a 7 1/2 works best for me in a nice stiff stetson.
   this would make me an XL on the charts, so i order 3 very cheap chinese
   straw hats, one in large and two in xl.  two of them fit well enough, but
   the third is just way too big.  i would not get enough on a return to
  make
   it worth shipping back.  i don't like the idea of just throwing it out
  and
  i
   don't happen to know any giant headed people who might want it.
  
   and thoughts on how to shrink it?  what about wearing it with an 80s
  style
   sweatband?
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] anyone know how to shrink straw hat?

2008-06-19 Thread Archer
 At 10:04 PM -0400 6/18/08, Gary Hurst wrote:
and thoughts on how to shrink it?  what about wearing it with an 80s style
sweatband?

 Traditional method:  Roll up a strip of newspaper, tuck it inside the 
 headband.
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curb and one of the kids snatched the hat off of a fellows head.  They tried 
to drive off but the engine quit.  The crowd was slowly closing in on them 
as the driver frantically tried to start the engine.  It finally caught and 
they escaped.
The hat had a twenty dollar bill inside the headband.  Big money during the 
1940s.
Gerry 


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[MBZ] I am stumped. Water temp gauge not reading right.

2008-06-19 Thread Rolf
I swapped my engine recently with the one from my parts car. The car is
an 85 and now has an 84 or earlier 617.952 in it. The 85 has two temp
senders in the block, the older ones only had one. The plug is different
2 prong on the older and 4 prong (only 3 used) on the 85. I took the 2
prong apart and plugged the socket parts into the 4 prong plug on the
firewall. I have a signal now however my gauge never reads more than
60C. Was there a difference in water temp senders?

-Rolf

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[MBZ] scraping noise turning right

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Driving my 300D today for the first time since I overhauled the vacuum
pump, there is a new noise coming from the general area of the left
(driver's side) front wheel when I make a right hand turn.  It is a
regular scraping sound, not really alarming but definitely audible.  It
varies with speed.  Sort of a rasp-rasp-rasp sound, vaguely metallic. 
Does not occur driving straight ahead, or when turning left.

I know wheel bearings can make noise, but have always heard that
described as more of a groan or rumble.  This is just a scraping sound,
like something is rubbing against the wheel though I can't see what it
might be.

I'll pop that wheel off tonight and see if perhaps a rock or twig is
lodged in there somehow.

Other ideas?

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] scraping noise turning right

2008-06-19 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote:
 I know wheel bearings can make noise, but have always heard that
 described as more of a groan or rumble.  This is just a scraping sound,
 like something is rubbing against the wheel though I can't see what it
 might be.

Bent brake dust shield?  When I had that happen it was constant though...

John


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Re: [MBZ] scraping noise turning right

2008-06-19 Thread Bill R
Allen - just went through that and after numerous other fixes were tried
discovered it was collapsing motor mounts that caused the geometry to be off
and the wheel to rub only on right turns.  No cure for me but new motor
mounts - Your experience might be different, but if they are getting old it
is0 worth a look.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD 302k miles
 

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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] scraping noise turning right

Driving my 300D today for the first time since I overhauled the vacuum
pump, there is a new noise coming from the general area of the left
(driver's side) front wheel when I make a right hand turn.  It is a
regular scraping sound, not really alarming but definitely audible.  It
varies with speed.  Sort of a rasp-rasp-rasp sound, vaguely metallic. 
Does not occur driving straight ahead, or when turning left.

I know wheel bearings can make noise, but have always heard that
described as more of a groan or rumble.  This is just a scraping sound,
like something is rubbing against the wheel though I can't see what it
might be.

I'll pop that wheel off tonight and see if perhaps a rock or twig is
lodged in there somehow.

Other ideas?

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] scraping noise turning right

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Allen - just went through that and after numerous other fixes were tried
 discovered it was collapsing motor mounts that caused the geometry to be off
 and the wheel to rub only on right turns.  No cure for me but new motor
 mounts - Your experience might be different, but if they are getting old it
 is worth a look.

They are old.  I have new ones on the shelf in the garage, have not
gotten around to replacing them.  Sounds like I should bump that job up
on the priority list

Allan
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1983 300d


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[MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Hursley
for a good job.  I did ordered the parts on Wednesday in the afternoon and 
it arrived on Thursday morning.  Fast delivery.

Now, I am off to work on the car.

Thank you again.

K.S. 


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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Just replaced OVP; few minutes idling at ~700 to 750 RPM seems OK, but prob
has been intermittent -0 we'll see.

My OVP is secured on one side to 2-post plastic bracket with a plastic
spring clip on one post.  Release the clip with a flat screwdriver, and pull
upward on the OVP; it tilts upward on the released side and slips out of a
slot on the other side.  Continued pulling upward on the unit brings with it
a plastic receptacle/plug at the end of a bundle of wires.  'Can't quite get
the unit out far enough to grip the receptacle/plug well enough to unplug
the unit.  VERY careful prying on edge of the plug with flat screwdriver got
it started.

Wilton

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  How is the OVP mounted.  Does it simply plug into a fixed base
  receptacle,
  or what?

 In my 126, yes.  Right next to the Klima, near the fuse box.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
hard to understand why anyone shops anywhere else

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Hursley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for a good job.  I did ordered the parts on Wednesday in the afternoon and
 it arrived on Thursday morning.  Fast delivery.

 Now, I am off to work on the car.

 Thank you again.

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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread John Robbins
Gary Hurst wrote:
 hard to understand why anyone shops anywhere else

Where do you guys ship from?  I think I've been blacklisted from the 
1-day shipping...  I used to get it in Huntsville.  Pretty sure I got it 
here in MS, but it hasn't been for a while.

John


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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
ship from about anywhere.  if you are ordering online, you are likely coming
from new jersey, ohio or california.  we have some capacity to ship out of
new orleans, which would be the winner for you.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:08 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst wrote:
  hard to understand why anyone shops anywhere else

 Where do you guys ship from?  I think I've been blacklisted from the
 1-day shipping...  I used to get it in Huntsville.  Pretty sure I got it
 here in MS, but it hasn't been for a while.

 John


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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread John Robbins
Gary Hurst wrote:
 ship from about anywhere.  if you are ordering online, you are likely coming
 from new jersey, ohio or california.  we have some capacity to ship out of
 new orleans, which would be the winner for you.

Same places for calling?

Surprised its not Memphis... all kind of distribution stuff up there.

John


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Re: [MBZ] scraping noise turning right

2008-06-19 Thread Bill R
Good luck with it.  I'd tried four or five other 'fixes' until finally the
mount and the frame came into direct contact.  Not much question then.
BillR

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] scraping noise turning right

Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Allen - just went through that and after numerous other fixes were tried
 discovered it was collapsing motor mounts that caused the geometry to be
off
 and the wheel to rub only on right turns.  No cure for me but new motor
 mounts - Your experience might be different, but if they are getting old
it
 is worth a look.

They are old.  I have new ones on the shelf in the garage, have not
gotten around to replacing them.  Sounds like I should bump that job up
on the priority list

Allan
--
1983 300d


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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Rusty Cullens
We will have something in Nashville soon.

Rusty Cullens
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 Gary Hurst wrote:
 ship from about anywhere.  if you are ordering online, you are likely 
 coming
 from new jersey, ohio or california.  we have some capacity to ship out 
 of
 new orleans, which would be the winner for you.

 Same places for calling?

 Surprised its not Memphis... all kind of distribution stuff up there.

 John


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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
think about where there are foreign cars.  i don't see a lot of benzes in
memphis.  do you?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:16 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst wrote:
  ship from about anywhere.  if you are ordering online, you are likely
 coming
  from new jersey, ohio or california.  we have some capacity to ship out
 of
  new orleans, which would be the winner for you.

 Same places for calling?

 Surprised its not Memphis... all kind of distribution stuff up there.

 John


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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
dunno about that, but I know If I buy something from MacMall/PCMall 
tonight, I will have it tomorrow, shipped from Memphis via 
Fedex.  The company may be in CA, but the stuff ships from 
Memphis.  If you use Fedex, distribution from Memphis is a good idea.

in the last couple of years, most stuff I order from Rusty shows up 
in 3-5 business days, often in 3-4 different shipments.
Everything I order from Rusty that comes from MB is shipped 
Fedex.  Other stuff comes on other carriers.

At 03:26 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:
think about where there are foreign cars.  i don't see a lot of benzes in
memphis.  do you?

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  Gary Hurst wrote:
   ship from about anywhere.  if you are ordering online, you are likely
  coming
   from new jersey, ohio or california.  we have some capacity to ship out
  of
   new orleans, which would be the winner for you.
 
  Same places for calling?
 
  Surprised its not Memphis... all kind of distribution stuff up there.
 
  John
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread R A Bennell
So what did it cost for the parts etc? IE - what is your labour worth when it 
was all done and how long did it take
you in hours? Any idea? Not trying to make you feel bad as I am sure I have 
done lots of jobs where I did not earn
$1 per hour but at least I did it and did it correctly.

Randy

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Two years ago, refrigeration guy determined evap leaking.  Recharged coupla
times a year since.
Coupla months ago, system wouldn't hold charge a month - time to bite the
bullet.

BTW, refrigeration guy refused the evactomy job; stealer wanted $3100; indy
wanted $2400 for basic evapectomy.  I changed all vac pods while I had it
open.

Wilton

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 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:36:37 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wilton Strickland wrote:
   BTW, the refrigeration guy asked if I wanted him to pass out cards to
   MB owners for me.
 
  Great idea. You can do 124  126 evaporator swaps and 115 heater blowers
  for $1k each. Do one a month for two years and you can get a nice shiny
  2005 320CDI.

 BTW, Wilton, what were the symptoms that prompted your evacpectomy?


 Craig

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[MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond, sprint, blackberry content, but no mb, sorry)

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
this is my exact situation, summed up more clearly and concisely than i ever
could.  any solutions would be appreciated as the idea of paying them an
extra $59 a month for something i've already paid for kinda rubs me the
wrong way.  plus i've wasted the last two days trying to make this work,
only to learn that it doesn't because of subversion on the part of cbeyond,
which also doesn't make me happy.



Our company issued us BB 8703e telling us we have unlimited data capability.
We purchased the services through CBEYOND who is a reseller for Sprint.

CBYOND says no support available to use BB as a tethered modem. Instead, I
have to buy a laptop card and $60/mo. Oh really? Sprint says data is
included no charge.

So, I downloaded the Sprint application allowing me to sign on, but no joy.
I need an activation code.

Of course CBEYOND tells me I have to buy a card becuase their network won't
recognize my BB as a tethered modem. Sorry folks, the technology doesn't
work that way.

When I call SPRINT tech support I have to key in my account number and that
pushes me over to CBEYOND support for the sales pitch.

What is my way around this. CBEYOND has no network of their own that I am
aware of, they just resell for SPRINT.

Can anyone help?
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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread LarryT
Rusty is amazing - Unfortunately I only seem to need things on national b/o 
with the only one having the part is Germany -

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 for a good job.  I did ordered the parts on Wednesday in the afternoon and
 it arrived on Thursday morning.  Fast delivery.

 Now, I am off to work on the car.

 Thank you again.

 K.S.


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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rusty is amazing - Unfortunately I only seem to need things on national b/o
 with the only one having the part is Germany -


Better than needing things that are on WORLDWIDE b/o as was the case
with some critical part for '95 E300Ds some months ago (was it Clay
who was bit by that one?) and as with hard fuel lines for the 603
(still waiting for mine although the handmade replacement is working
just fine).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al.

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[MBZ] Possibly cheap 400E

2008-06-19 Thread John Robbins
Near Atlanta...

http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=225507

No affiliation, etc.

John


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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Parts from Rusty:  evap, 6 vac pods, Freon manifold at compressor,
receiver/dryer ~$665.
Stealer  indy wanted $3100/$2400 To do evap only.

Time actually WORKED on it?  I don't know.  'Haven't been at all concerned
about it.  'Don't have anything else to REALLY do, and I could do most of
this sitting down.  'Didn't need to rush; 'have another car; 'don't have to
go to a job; there was nobody I had to impress.  I'm capable, so why not?
Not long ago, I was not able because of bad tremor that has gone away.  The
job is not, as they say, rocket science.  It's not even AIR science.  It's
just more than the usual amount of VERY simple stuff, and just as in doing
anything, all you have to do is ONE thing at a time.  I've done a helluva
lot more for a lot less -  a WHOLE YEAR, for example, on jet engines and
B-47 aircraft for our Uncle in blizzard Nebraska winters and HOT summers
(many times all night long) for a MEASLY $2400 fifty yrs ago.

During the coupla weeks, I'd work on it coupla hours in morning while a
little cooler and in shade; 3 to 5 hours mid to late afternoon after car was
in shade again.  3 or 4 days during the 2 weeks, I didn't even touch it.
Heat and humidity was worst part of it all, but fan helped that prob
greatly.  But for the heat and humidity, I enjoyed it.  I guess I couldn't
stand the trauma of knowing that somebody who may not give a damned was
doing that (and who knows what else) to my car and taking my good money for
something that I KNEW I could easily do myself.

How much did I make an hour?  I don't know and don't care.  The value of
knowing that I could do it and have done it is worth much more than any
money that I may have saved.  Oh, and whatever I may have paid somebody to
do the job plus unknowns is still in my bank account.  Again, there is
nothing else that I would have done during the time I worked on the car.

Wilton


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 So what did it cost for the parts etc? IE - what is your labour worth when
it was all done and how long did it take
 you in hours? Any idea? Not trying to make you feel bad as I am sure I
have done lots of jobs where I did not earn
 $1 per hour but at least I did it and did it correctly.

 Randy

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 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:35 AM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy


 Two years ago, refrigeration guy determined evap leaking.  Recharged
coupla
 times a year since.
 Coupla months ago, system wouldn't hold charge a month - time to bite the
 bullet.

 BTW, refrigeration guy refused the evactomy job; stealer wanted $3100;
indy
 wanted $2400 for basic evapectomy.  I changed all vac pods while I had it
 open.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy


  On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:36:37 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Wilton Strickland wrote:
BTW, the refrigeration guy asked if I wanted him to pass out cards
to
MB owners for me.
  
   Great idea. You can do 124  126 evaporator swaps and 115 heater
blowers
   for $1k each. Do one a month for two years and you can get a nice
shiny
   2005 320CDI.
 
  BTW, Wilton, what were the symptoms that prompted your evacpectomy?
 
 
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Possibly cheap 400E

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote:
 Near Atlanta...
 
 http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=225507

He's got a Georgia cell phone, but he's selling a house in Rochester NY
and this is his home phone:
Jonathan Tronolone  (585) 563-636137 Stanford Rd W,  Rochester, NY 14620
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/SMD/gme/current/TraineeHomes.cfm

The fact that he's selling a house and a car would imply that he has a non-
mechanical reason to sell the car.

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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond,

2008-06-19 Thread slozukimc
This link usually links you to Sprint Chat.  They have been very helpful
to me so far.  I have 2 Centros on order and they said to contact them on
the chat board for help setting up phone as modem when my phones arrive.

Go to this page and there is USUALLY a link near the top left that says
Login to chat.  If it's not there look again in a while, sometimes it's
there, sometimes it's not.  Who knows?

http://www.sprint.com/landings/tvguide/

Mike


 this is my exact situation, summed up more clearly and concisely than i
 ever
 could.  any solutions would be appreciated as the idea of paying them an
 extra $59 a month for something i've already paid for kinda rubs me the
 wrong way.  plus i've wasted the last two days trying to make this work,
 only to learn that it doesn't because of subversion on the part of
 cbeyond,
 which also doesn't make me happy.



 Our company issued us BB 8703e telling us we have unlimited data
 capability.
 We purchased the services through CBEYOND who is a reseller for Sprint.

 CBYOND says no support available to use BB as a tethered modem. Instead,
 I
 have to buy a laptop card and $60/mo. Oh really? Sprint says data is
 included no charge.

 So, I downloaded the Sprint application allowing me to sign on, but no
 joy.
 I need an activation code.

 Of course CBEYOND tells me I have to buy a card becuase their network
 won't
 recognize my BB as a tethered modem. Sorry folks, the technology doesn't
 work that way.

 When I call SPRINT tech support I have to key in my account number and
 that
 pushes me over to CBEYOND support for the sales pitch.

 What is my way around this. CBEYOND has no network of their own that I am
 aware of, they just resell for SPRINT.

 Can anyone help?
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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond,

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i found a hack and bought it instead

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This link usually links you to Sprint Chat.  They have been very helpful
 to me so far.  I have 2 Centros on order and they said to contact them on
 the chat board for help setting up phone as modem when my phones arrive.

 Go to this page and there is USUALLY a link near the top left that says
 Login to chat.  If it's not there look again in a while, sometimes it's
 there, sometimes it's not.  Who knows?

 http://www.sprint.com/landings/tvguide/

 Mike


  this is my exact situation, summed up more clearly and concisely than i
  ever
  could.  any solutions would be appreciated as the idea of paying them an
  extra $59 a month for something i've already paid for kinda rubs me the
  wrong way.  plus i've wasted the last two days trying to make this work,
  only to learn that it doesn't because of subversion on the part of
  cbeyond,
  which also doesn't make me happy.
 
 
 
  Our company issued us BB 8703e telling us we have unlimited data
  capability.
  We purchased the services through CBEYOND who is a reseller for Sprint.
 
  CBYOND says no support available to use BB as a tethered modem. Instead,
  I
  have to buy a laptop card and $60/mo. Oh really? Sprint says data is
  included no charge.
 
  So, I downloaded the Sprint application allowing me to sign on, but no
  joy.
  I need an activation code.
 
  Of course CBEYOND tells me I have to buy a card becuase their network
  won't
  recognize my BB as a tethered modem. Sorry folks, the technology doesn't
  work that way.
 
  When I call SPRINT tech support I have to key in my account number and
  that
  pushes me over to CBEYOND support for the sales pitch.
 
  What is my way around this. CBEYOND has no network of their own that I am
  aware of, they just resell for SPRINT.
 
  Can anyone help?
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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond
We're not talking minute of accurace here but I bet it'd be no more than 2... 
I've killed lots of squirrels with CB caps...

Next time I get up to visit my folks I'll give 'er a try on paper.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:19:10 -0400
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Rick Knoble wrote:

 I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer 
 hitting the cartridge.

Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those?
I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good.

I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little 
difference in sound 
from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com

2008-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond
My stuff generally comes from Newton, MA. I swear they send a kid on a bicycle 
but I've never actually seen him ;).

Company I worked for used a depot in Memphis, my boss went down to audit one 
time in July, lost 5 pounds in 3 days...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:16:05 -0500
From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thank you, Rusty @ buymbparts.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Gary Hurst wrote:
 ship from about anywhere.  if you are ordering online, you are likely coming
 from new jersey, ohio or california.  we have some capacity to ship out of
 new orleans, which would be the winner for you.

Same places for calling?

Surprised its not Memphis... all kind of distribution stuff up there.

John


  
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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond,

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i found a hack and bought it instead

Well do tell...  Ever since COMCAST took over our local cable system
my cable internet service has gone from flawless to F---ed.  Not that
cellular is really an alternative, signal is marginal at my house.

Anyone have any experience with internet from the likes of DirecTV?
I've heard it's very chunky: OK for big downloads but not very good
for interactive use.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond,

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
you generally shouldn't need a hack if you get a blackberry that can work as
a tethered modem.  in this case i did though as cbeyond blocks the modem
capacity.  some of you smart computer guys couold probably set it up
yourself so that it doesn't look as if it is acting as a modem when it is.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  i found a hack and bought it instead

 Well do tell...  Ever since COMCAST took over our local cable system
 my cable internet service has gone from flawless to F---ed.  Not that
 cellular is really an alternative, signal is marginal at my house.

 Anyone have any experience with internet from the likes of DirecTV?
 I've heard it's very chunky: OK for big downloads but not very good
 for interactive use.

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond,

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote:
 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 i found a hack and bought it instead
 
 Well do tell...  Ever since COMCAST took over our local cable system
 my cable internet service has gone from flawless to F---ed.  Not that
 cellular is really an alternative, signal is marginal at my house.
 
 Anyone have any experience with internet from the likes of DirecTV?
 I've heard it's very chunky: OK for big downloads but not very good
 for interactive use.
 
 Allan

Kaleb can elaborate, but satellite generally stinks.
I'd probably go cellular with an antenna before I'd go sat, as long as
I can get a true unlimited plan with cellular.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Loren Faeth
ok, Now I think I understand your previous question about how long it 
takes to change the freon manifold.  At the time I could not figure 
out what you meant.  The manifold on top of the compressor is not 
rocket science to change.  It is a bit of a PITA because you have to 
take the compressor off to get to it.

I just took out the compressor on my 87 300D, cleaned it, took off 
the manifold and replaced the o-rings.  It takes 6 orings. 4 between 
the compr. and minifold and 2 between the manifold and the hoses. The 
orings are a pain to find.  I ordered a set from Rusty and I only got 
two.  The orings in the manifold to compressor side were fairly new 
and green, and the compressor had an MB part number and a reman 
sticker on it, so I ifgured it was pretty recent.  since the green 
orings still had some life to them I put a little silicone permatex 
on them and put it back together.

1.  pull the capscrew holding the manifold hose to the compressor
2.  loosen the belt tensioner
3.  pull the 4 bolts through the pump holding the compressor to the engine
4.  unplug the wiring harness on top
5.  remove the compressor.  (I did all this from the topside on the 124 300D)
6.  clean compressor and remove the manifold.
7.  install new orings and replace manifold (4 orings, green ones if 
you want to use 134a)
8.  put the compressor back in place
9.  plug in the wiring harness.  Be sure you get it on the right 
pins.  you can plug it in with 2 pins in and one pin out!
10.  put the bolts back in.  Tighten bolts
11.  remove the shock absorber bolt of the tensioner so the belt will 
slide on (OM603, for others: YMMV)  put the belt on.
12.  check to see the manifold sealing surfaces are clean, install orings
13.  install hose manifold to compressor
14.  put the boltback in the tensioner shock absorber
15.  tension belt and replace bolt and nut.
16.  Start engine and check belt, etc.

The whole job only took me an hour and 45 min from getting out tools 
to sitting down to the computer after cleaning up and putting 
everything away.  Add another hour for going to the DIY carwash and 
cleaning as much of the compressor and the underhood area as I could.

Hope this helps!

I am guessing that a large part of the reason this car ended up in a 
series of auctions is that the evaporator leaks.  I have found no 
other reason why the refrigerant leaks, but  i have not used a leak 
detector, because I don't have one.  After checking out the 
compressor orings, I have this sinking feeling.

At 05:10 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:
Parts from Rusty:  evap, 6 vac pods, Freon manifold at compressor,
receiver/dryer ~$665.
Stealer  indy wanted $3100/$2400 To do evap only.

Time actually WORKED on it?  I don't know.  'Haven't been at all concerned
about it.  'Don't have anything else to REALLY do, and I could do most of
this sitting down.  'Didn't need to rush; 'have another car; 'don't have to
go to a job; there was nobody I had to impress.  I'm capable, so why not?
Not long ago, I was not able because of bad tremor that has gone away.  The
job is not, as they say, rocket science.  It's not even AIR science.  It's
just more than the usual amount of VERY simple stuff, and just as in doing
anything, all you have to do is ONE thing at a time.  I've done a helluva
lot more for a lot less -  a WHOLE YEAR, for example, on jet engines and
B-47 aircraft for our Uncle in blizzard Nebraska winters and HOT summers
(many times all night long) for a MEASLY $2400 fifty yrs ago.

During the coupla weeks, I'd work on it coupla hours in morning while a
little cooler and in shade; 3 to 5 hours mid to late afternoon after car was
in shade again.  3 or 4 days during the 2 weeks, I didn't even touch it.
Heat and humidity was worst part of it all, but fan helped that prob
greatly.  But for the heat and humidity, I enjoyed it.  I guess I couldn't
stand the trauma of knowing that somebody who may not give a damned was
doing that (and who knows what else) to my car and taking my good money for
something that I KNEW I could easily do myself.

How much did I make an hour?  I don't know and don't care.  The value of
knowing that I could do it and have done it is worth much more than any
money that I may have saved.  Oh, and whatever I may have paid somebody to
do the job plus unknowns is still in my bank account.  Again, there is
nothing else that I would have done during the time I worked on the car.

Wilton


- Original Message -
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy


  So what did it cost for the parts etc? IE - what is your labour worth when
it was all done and how long did it take
  you in hours? Any idea? Not trying to make you feel bad as I am sure I
have done lots of jobs where I did not earn
  $1 per hour but at least I did it and did it correctly.
 
  Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL

2008-06-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/view.html
Well no the case is not closed, MB made a 500SE with that VIN and now it 
is something different, whilst it is possible that it was repainted I 
don't think anyone would bother to change the interior.
It is possible that a typo was made but also there could be something 
more sinister.
As others have said MB never made an original 1000SEL, so that statement 
is BS.
If it was an 1000SEL, I would expect it to be more blinged up in an 
distasteful fashion. http://groups.msn.com/1980extremetuning/trasco.msnw
If it was a genuine 1000SEL, with aftermarket styling then it would be 
rare and valuable.
It's like putting an AMG badge (of which there are many available) on 
the back of a stock MB and calling it a genuine AMG product.

Hendrik
who thinks that because my 300TE wears newer mags and steering wheel he 
should put a 1000TE badge on the beasty

tom savage wrote:
 Mitch Haley wrote:
   
 10 liters? Maybe a 5 liter under the hood and one in the back seat? (chuckle)

 It does appear to be a non-USA market car. When we went to 17 digits, the
 VINs no longer began with the chassis number. Would WDB1260361A100119 be
 a 126.036? I thought .036 was the 500SE, and that's a SEL in the pics. 
 

 The VIN is for a German-market 500SE finished in 737 classicweiß with a 
 black leather interior, though that is clearly a LWB car.  It sure looks 
 like a US-spec car in slightly different livery.

 I don't know why we're dissecting it like this, though.  The seller 
 clearly states that The owner has spoken to Mercedes in Germany and 
 this car was German manufactured by Mercedes. It is an extremely rare 
 car, they say only a few were made as original 1000SEL's.  So there you 
 have it.  Case closed!

 Tom

   

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Re: [MBZ] Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Wilton Wilton Wilton, I am so disappointed in you. I would have thought 
that as a good American you would have something with a bit more firepower.
http://www.m-99.co.uk/Air_Guns/Machine_Gun_COLT_KNIGHTS_M4_SR/machine_gun_colt_knights_m4_sr.html
http://gun-sword.stores.yahoo.net/fulautminrif.html
Perhaps make your own 
http://www.flup.ws/dangerous-goods/the-caselman-air-powered-machine-gun/
Unfortunately they won't let us own anything so deadly in the land of Oz.

Hendrik

Wilton Strickland wrote:
 I have a Crossman pump pellet gun I use occasionally on pigeons way up on
 top of my Georgian Revival slate roof (nearly 3 floors up) - usually hit 'em
 fairly easily so far.  'Haven't done it in little over a year.  When my
 tremor was really bad, wife would see me coming back in the house after
 dispatching coupla pigeons and ask, How can you hit anything with your
 hands shaking so?  Answer:  'Don't shake resting against a tree or fence
 post.

 Wilton

   

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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Freon manifold - I'm talking about the two big rubber and steel pipes/tubes
attached to the backside of a raised attachment on top of the compressor -
one goes forward to the condenser; the other goes rearward and connects to
another pipe/tube that connects to the evaporator between the firewalls.
Compressor end of the pipes/manifold in question on my 87 300D sure looks
like it's attached to that raised attachment on top of the compressor by one
bolt (13 mm, I think, but not certain right now) on a common flange between
the ends of the two pipes that make up the manifold.  The bolt I'm talking
about is easily reached from behind the compressor with a socket on a short
extension on a ratchet.  'You sure you need to REMOVE the compressor just to
change the two pipes (with common flange at compressor)?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy


 ok, Now I think I understand your previous question about how long it
 takes to change the freon manifold.  At the time I could not figure
 out what you meant.  The manifold on top of the compressor is not
 rocket science to change.  It is a bit of a PITA because you have to
 take the compressor off to get to it.

 I just took out the compressor on my 87 300D, cleaned it, took off
 the manifold and replaced the o-rings.  It takes 6 orings. 4 between
 the compr. and minifold and 2 between the manifold and the hoses. The
 orings are a pain to find.  I ordered a set from Rusty and I only got
 two.  The orings in the manifold to compressor side were fairly new
 and green, and the compressor had an MB part number and a reman
 sticker on it, so I ifgured it was pretty recent.  since the green
 orings still had some life to them I put a little silicone permatex
 on them and put it back together.

 1.  pull the capscrew holding the manifold hose to the compressor
 2.  loosen the belt tensioner
 3.  pull the 4 bolts through the pump holding the compressor to the engine
 4.  unplug the wiring harness on top
 5.  remove the compressor.  (I did all this from the topside on the 124
300D)
 6.  clean compressor and remove the manifold.
 7.  install new orings and replace manifold (4 orings, green ones if
 you want to use 134a)
 8.  put the compressor back in place
 9.  plug in the wiring harness.  Be sure you get it on the right
 pins.  you can plug it in with 2 pins in and one pin out!
 10.  put the bolts back in.  Tighten bolts
 11.  remove the shock absorber bolt of the tensioner so the belt will
 slide on (OM603, for others: YMMV)  put the belt on.
 12.  check to see the manifold sealing surfaces are clean, install orings
 13.  install hose manifold to compressor
 14.  put the boltback in the tensioner shock absorber
 15.  tension belt and replace bolt and nut.
 16.  Start engine and check belt, etc.

 The whole job only took me an hour and 45 min from getting out tools
 to sitting down to the computer after cleaning up and putting
 everything away.  Add another hour for going to the DIY carwash and
 cleaning as much of the compressor and the underhood area as I could.

 Hope this helps!

 I am guessing that a large part of the reason this car ended up in a
 series of auctions is that the evaporator leaks.  I have found no
 other reason why the refrigerant leaks, but  i have not used a leak
 detector, because I don't have one.  After checking out the
 compressor orings, I have this sinking feeling.

 At 05:10 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:
 Parts from Rusty:  evap, 6 vac pods, Freon manifold at compressor,
 receiver/dryer ~$665.
 Stealer  indy wanted $3100/$2400 To do evap only.
 
 Time actually WORKED on it?  I don't know.  'Haven't been at all
concerned
 about it.  'Don't have anything else to REALLY do, and I could do most of
 this sitting down.  'Didn't need to rush; 'have another car; 'don't have
to
 go to a job; there was nobody I had to impress.  I'm capable, so why not?
 Not long ago, I was not able because of bad tremor that has gone away.
The
 job is not, as they say, rocket science.  It's not even AIR science.
It's
 just more than the usual amount of VERY simple stuff, and just as in
doing
 anything, all you have to do is ONE thing at a time.  I've done a helluva
 lot more for a lot less -  a WHOLE YEAR, for example, on jet engines and
 B-47 aircraft for our Uncle in blizzard Nebraska winters and HOT
summers
 (many times all night long) for a MEASLY $2400 fifty yrs ago.
 
 During the coupla weeks, I'd work on it coupla hours in morning while a
 little cooler and in shade; 3 to 5 hours mid to late afternoon after car
was
 in shade again.  3 or 4 days during the 2 weeks, I didn't even touch it.
 Heat and humidity was worst part of it all, but fan helped that prob
 greatly.  But for the heat and humidity, I enjoyed it.  I guess I
couldn't
 stand the trauma of knowing that somebody who may not give a damned
was
 doing that 

[MBZ] bending steel pipe

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
I need to straighten a slightly bent piece of steel pipe.  It is the
gearshift lever from my Vanagon, which broke in two due to metal
fatigue.  The pipe is about 5/8 OD hollow steel pipe.  I ground the
two broken ends smooth, threaded them about 3/4 into each end and cut
a 1.5 piece of 3/8 threaded rod which I used to reconect the two
halves.  Then I welded around the seam with my MIG welder.

Problem is, the rod is still slightly bent, below the break.  Slightly
curved would be more like it, there's no distinct bend.  I plan to
heat it with a MAPP torch and straighten it out.  Once it's straight,
should I dunk it in water or let it cool in the air?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

2008-06-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
You will not be able to completely straighten the pipe by hand.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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Subject: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

I need to straighten a slightly bent piece of steel pipe.  It is the
gearshift lever from my Vanagon, which broke in two due to metal
fatigue.  The pipe is about 5/8 OD hollow steel pipe.  I ground the
two broken ends smooth, threaded them about 3/4 into each end and cut
a 1.5 piece of 3/8 threaded rod which I used to reconect the two
halves.  Then I welded around the seam with my MIG welder.

Problem is, the rod is still slightly bent, below the break.  Slightly
curved would be more like it, there's no distinct bend.  I plan to
heat it with a MAPP torch and straighten it out.  Once it's straight,
should I dunk it in water or let it cool in the air?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
A bit more firepower???  For 15 years of my working life, I packed 12
(that's twelve) nuclear weapons at 1.1 megatons each.  Guy riding with me
packed 20 mm Gatlin gun.  Top that???

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Hendrik  Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air guns


 Wilton Wilton Wilton, I am so disappointed in you. I would have thought
 that as a good American you would have something with a bit more
firepower.

http://www.m-99.co.uk/Air_Guns/Machine_Gun_COLT_KNIGHTS_M4_SR/machine_gun_co
lt_knights_m4_sr.html
 http://gun-sword.stores.yahoo.net/fulautminrif.html
 Perhaps make your own
 http://www.flup.ws/dangerous-goods/the-caselman-air-powered-machine-gun/
 Unfortunately they won't let us own anything so deadly in the land of Oz.

 Hendrik

 Wilton Strickland wrote:
  I have a Crossman pump pellet gun I use occasionally on pigeons way up
on
  top of my Georgian Revival slate roof (nearly 3 floors up) - usually hit
'em
  fairly easily so far.  'Haven't done it in little over a year.  When my
  tremor was really bad, wife would see me coming back in the house after
  dispatching coupla pigeons and ask, How can you hit anything with your
  hands shaking so?  Answer:  'Don't shake resting against a tree or
fence
  post.
 
  Wilton
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You will not be able to completely straighten the pipe by hand.

Assuming I can straighten it to my satisfaction, should I then dunk it
in water, or let it cool naturally.  Or will it make any difference?

Allan

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[MBZ] 115 heater blower

2008-06-19 Thread Stuart Saxonberg
Hi, list -

The blower in my (76 300D) 115's been dead for a year or two now, and I'm
thinking of jumping in to replace it. 

(As Marshal suggests periodically, I wouldn't bother to replace it, EXCEPT
that it makes an intolerable rattling/groaning/grinding noise at speed if
the A/C isn't on - this makes long winter drives impossible, which means
it's mostly parked all winter, and that leads to water buildup and mildew.
Bad. Do not want. If the blower was QUIET but dead I'd let it be.)

Having found, with the wonder of Google, a reasonable-looking writeup of the
process, I just have a few questions:

1) Can someone with the EPC get me a screenshot of how the heating system
goes together? (Oddly, my CD of the shop manual only has AC stuff under the
HVAC section, so it's useless. Or I'm blind.) 

(Or, God willin', someone have in-process pictures of actually doing it? I
have a reasonable idea of how a lot of things in the dash area go together,
but the heater core/evap/fan area is inaccessible and strange. I still don't
understand the point of that squirrel-cage fan at the...)

2) Rusty - I don't see them on the website, but can you get the fiber optic
bits that illuminate the center dash? I've got one that's broken, and this
seems to be an IDEAL time to replace it, if I'm taking the whole car apart
anyway.

3) Anyone crazy enough to do this have any helpful hints or tips?

Thanks for anything you can tell me,
Stuart S.
(1976 300D w115)


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Re: [MBZ] 115 heater blower

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 but the heater core/evap/fan area is inaccessible and strange. I still 
 don't
 understand the point of that squirrel-cage fan at the...)

The squirrel-cage fan in the hump is the recirculating AC fan.
The heater fan is in the firewall, and is a propeller fan.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 Assuming I can straighten it to my satisfaction, should I then dunk it
 in water, or let it cool naturally.  Or will it make any difference?

Quenching it will harden it, to whatever point the steel is
capable of being hardened.  Letting it air-cool will not (so
much).  Don't know if this is an issue or not.  Steel that gets
too hard gets brittle.  Myself, I usually let mild steel parts
air-cool, unless I need to handle them immediately.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread Bill R
Now that 20 mm would take care of my squirrel problem, Wilton!  Doubt I'd be
able to find enough squirrel left to eat after the 20 MM hit though.  Might
not find the tree, either.
BillR

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air guns

A bit more firepower???  For 15 years of my working life, I packed 12
(that's twelve) nuclear weapons at 1.1 megatons each.  Guy riding with me
packed 20 mm Gatlin gun.  Top that???

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Hendrik  Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air guns


 Wilton Wilton Wilton, I am so disappointed in you. I would have thought
 that as a good American you would have something with a bit more
firepower.

http://www.m-99.co.uk/Air_Guns/Machine_Gun_COLT_KNIGHTS_M4_SR/machine_gun_co
lt_knights_m4_sr.html
 http://gun-sword.stores.yahoo.net/fulautminrif.html
 Perhaps make your own
 http://www.flup.ws/dangerous-goods/the-caselman-air-powered-machine-gun/
 Unfortunately they won't let us own anything so deadly in the land of Oz.

 Hendrik

 Wilton Strickland wrote:
  I have a Crossman pump pellet gun I use occasionally on pigeons way up
on
  top of my Georgian Revival slate roof (nearly 3 floors up) - usually hit
'em
  fairly easily so far.  'Haven't done it in little over a year.  When my
  tremor was really bad, wife would see me coming back in the house after
  dispatching coupla pigeons and ask, How can you hit anything with your
  hands shaking so?  Answer:  'Don't shake resting against a tree or
fence
  post.
 
  Wilton
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Dunking (guenching) it makes it harder - hold an edge better, not wear away
as easily, but may make it more brittle, too; may break more easily.

Cool slowly in air makes it softer, more mallable; work it, file it, form it
more easily; not snap/break as easily, but may bend more easily.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe


 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You will not be able to completely straighten the pipe by hand.

 Assuming I can straighten it to my satisfaction, should I then dunk it
 in water, or let it cool naturally.  Or will it make any difference?

 Allan

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 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
You can use that, or a plain allen,  Just make SURE it's bottomed in  
the screw head!

I've replaced a couple, it's not that bad unless those two screws are  
seized or you strip the socket out.

Not a snowball's chance in the bad place I'll ever get the one out of  
the wrecked car though -- same story as the brake booster.  All  
squished together.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL no a/c

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
It's toast, I think.  On the 300D, one wire is the fan switch, should  
be open, but the other two (two wire plug, if the plug is still  
intact) is a thermistor. May be a switch and a thermistor on the  
W126, I'm not sure.  Could be a coolant temp switch, too for that  
matter, you will have to check, I don't have the W126 manuals.   I'd  
replace it -- make sure you know the engine and chassis number, as  
they changed during production and aren't interchangeable.

Peter

On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Luther wrote:

 That sensor plug is keyed and cannot be reversed?  I've applied  
 some Deoxit to all of the coolant sensor connectors.  I've checked  
 the resistances of all of the coolant sensors, and the 3 pronged  
 green (see the picture link) showed open to ground, and open across  
 all 3 combinations of prongs.  Sounds like it isn't good?

 picture is here: http://www.gulseth.net/photos/coolant-sensor.jpg
 Luther

 On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:36:34 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I believe that the coolant sensor for the ACC is in a dual element
 sensor on the engine - one set of pins for the ACC, the other for the
 idle control.  The AC on my SDL would turn off the compressor as soon
 as the coolant hit 80C - the PO had reversed the sets of wires on  
 that
 sensor. The AC worked great after I switched those two  plugs.

 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, test results are all normal except for the following:
 Sensor Ground test, Pin 8 (coolant temp)=open
 Vacuum flaps, pin 8 (short DEF Flap)=1k ohms

 Maybe I have a bad (hopefully unplugged) coolant sensor.




 -- 
 Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
 '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
 '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
 '82 300CD (166 kmi)
 '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
 '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
BTW, I've never been into guns, but I DID carry nukes for several
(nearly 15) years.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air guns


 A bit more firepower???  For 15 years of my working life, I packed 12
 (that's twelve) nuclear weapons at 1.1 megatons each.  Guy riding with me
 packed 20 mm Gatlin gun.  Top that???

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Hendrik  Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air guns


  Wilton Wilton Wilton, I am so disappointed in you. I would have thought
  that as a good American you would have something with a bit more
 firepower.
 

http://www.m-99.co.uk/Air_Guns/Machine_Gun_COLT_KNIGHTS_M4_SR/machine_gun_co
 lt_knights_m4_sr.html
  http://gun-sword.stores.yahoo.net/fulautminrif.html
  Perhaps make your own
  http://www.flup.ws/dangerous-goods/the-caselman-air-powered-machine-gun/
  Unfortunately they won't let us own anything so deadly in the land of
Oz.
 
  Hendrik
 
  Wilton Strickland wrote:
   I have a Crossman pump pellet gun I use occasionally on pigeons way up
 on
   top of my Georgian Revival slate roof (nearly 3 floors up) - usually
hit
 'em
   fairly easily so far.  'Haven't done it in little over a year.  When
my
   tremor was really bad, wife would see me coming back in the house
after
   dispatching coupla pigeons and ask, How can you hit anything with
your
   hands shaking so?  Answer:  'Don't shake resting against a tree or
 fence
   post.
  
   Wilton
  
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond,

2008-06-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't like comcast, so i took a long look at satellite internet.  it's the
pits.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Streib wrote:
  Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  i found a hack and bought it instead
 
  Well do tell...  Ever since COMCAST took over our local cable system
  my cable internet service has gone from flawless to F---ed.  Not that
  cellular is really an alternative, signal is marginal at my house.
 
  Anyone have any experience with internet from the likes of DirecTV?
  I've heard it's very chunky: OK for big downloads but not very good
  for interactive use.
 
  Allan

 Kaleb can elaborate, but satellite generally stinks.
 I'd probably go cellular with an antenna before I'd go sat, as long as
 I can get a true unlimited plan with cellular.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Before you replace the evaporator, I'd replace ALL the o-rings in all  
the fittings and on the expansion valve.  o-rings soaked in mineral  
oil and then exposed to R143a seem to rapidly become rock hard and  
leak, often slowly enough there is little or no oil trace, but you  
will slowly loose charge AND eat the compressor from the water that  
leaks in.

There are quite a few -- one large one on each end of the compressor  
hose set, 5 or seven on the condenser and receiver/dryer, and four on  
the expansion valve.  All the liquid side ones are the same size, I  
think, and MUST fit into the fitting easily -- the usual assorment  
has  quite a few that are too large although they fit the hose well,  
and they cut and leak.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Just the retainer bolt and the bottom rear compressor mount bolt.   
The real fun comes when try to remove the pipe to condensor fitting  
-- it's exposed, and usually quite stuck, and also hard to get  
wrenches on.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

2008-06-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
All depends on the amount of carbon in the steel. And because its not
structural my bet it's low carbon steel. Try to harden it and you will only
make it brittle.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

 Assuming I can straighten it to my satisfaction, should I then dunk it
 in water, or let it cool naturally.  Or will it make any difference?

Quenching it will harden it, to whatever point the steel is
capable of being hardened.  Letting it air-cool will not (so
much).  Don't know if this is an issue or not.  Steel that gets
too hard gets brittle.  Myself, I usually let mild steel parts
air-cool, unless I need to handle them immediately.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] bending steel pipe

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote:

 Assuming I can straighten it to my satisfaction, should I then dunk it
 in water, or let it cool naturally.  Or will it make any difference?

I'd put it in v blocks in a press and straighten it cold.


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Re: [MBZ] Air guns

2008-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 Wilton Wilton Wilton, I am so disappointed in you. I would have thought 
 that as a good American you would have something with a bit more firepower.

Airsoft might have a higher rate of fire than a Crosman 760, but what will
it do to a pigeon, sting it to death?
That Caselman is an interesting toy, but I think this would be more in line
with Wilton's style and dignity.
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/06/air-canes-part-1.html


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Re: [MBZ] 115 heater blower

2008-06-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
I replaced one - once. It took 2 weekends and I swore to never do it again.
The blower motor in my second 1975 240D died  I traded the car!

The surgery is painful - here are the highlights:

Discharge  disconnect the AC evaporator
Pull the center console
Pull the front seats (the second easiest part, by the way)
Pull various heater controls
Pull the entire climate control out by lowering it, tilting the bottom out 
pulling the unit out
Replace the fan (the easiest part)
Re-assemble
Evacuate the AC system  recharge

Oh, and reconnect the electrical, vacuum lines  heater controls



Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:22 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 115 heater blower

Hi, list -

The blower in my (76 300D) 115's been dead for a year or two now, and I'm
thinking of jumping in to replace it. 

(As Marshal suggests periodically, I wouldn't bother to replace it, EXCEPT
that it makes an intolerable rattling/groaning/grinding noise at speed if
the A/C isn't on - this makes long winter drives impossible, which means
it's mostly parked all winter, and that leads to water buildup and mildew.
Bad. Do not want. If the blower was QUIET but dead I'd let it be.)

Having found, with the wonder of Google, a reasonable-looking writeup of the
process, I just have a few questions:

1) Can someone with the EPC get me a screenshot of how the heating system
goes together? (Oddly, my CD of the shop manual only has AC stuff under the
HVAC section, so it's useless. Or I'm blind.) 

(Or, God willin', someone have in-process pictures of actually doing it? I
have a reasonable idea of how a lot of things in the dash area go together,
but the heater core/evap/fan area is inaccessible and strange. I still don't
understand the point of that squirrel-cage fan at the...)

2) Rusty - I don't see them on the website, but can you get the fiber optic
bits that illuminate the center dash? I've got one that's broken, and this
seems to be an IDEAL time to replace it, if I'm taking the whole car apart
anyway.

3) Anyone crazy enough to do this have any helpful hints or tips?

Thanks for anything you can tell me,
Stuart S.
(1976 300D w115)


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Re: [MBZ] 115 heater blower

2008-06-19 Thread OK Don
I've done it twice, and that's enough. The first time I followed the
MB repair manual - pretty much what Tom said, but I also removed the
entire dash, if memory proves correct.
The second time, (different car - no rust), I pulled it out through
the center speaker hole. It took half the time, but some surgery to
make the hole larger. The speaker grill then didn't clip in - I used
3M trim adhesive to keep it in place.
This was many years and cars ago - I'm afraid the exact steps have
long since been purged from memory, and it pre-dates digital
photography.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I replaced one - once. It took 2 weekends and I swore to never do it again.
 The blower motor in my second 1975 240D died  I traded the car!

 The surgery is painful - here are the highlights:

 Discharge  disconnect the AC evaporator
 Pull the center console
 Pull the front seats (the second easiest part, by the way)
 Pull various heater controls
 Pull the entire climate control out by lowering it, tilting the bottom out 
 pulling the unit out
 Replace the fan (the easiest part)
 Re-assemble
 Evacuate the AC system  recharge

 Oh, and reconnect the electrical, vacuum lines  heater controls



 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
'90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply
Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go)

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Re: [MBZ] CB Caps WAS: What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

2008-06-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:29:17 -0500 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 If the light is right, you absolutely can see the bullet travelling.  It
 is the relatively slow velocity that allows you to pick off pests with
 very minimal noise.

And if the light and other things are right, you can see a .30-06 bullet
travelling, too. I was using a spotting scope while a friend was shooting
an '03A3 at a target 600 yards away. He didn't belive me that I could see
the bullet flying, so he looked while I shot. He could see it, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] CB Caps

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
 And if the light and other things are right, you can see a .30-06 
 bullet
 traveling, too. I was using a spotting scope while a friend was 
 shooting
 an '03A3 at a target 600 yards away. He didn't belive me that I could 
 see
 the bullet flying, so he looked while I shot. He could see it, too.

Wow.  I saw downloaded 9mm bullets flying.  We were shooting at
dusk and whoever held the flashlight could see the bullets fly.
Not the regular velocity rounds, just the slow ones.  Cool.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] CB Caps

2008-06-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:52:23 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  And if the light and other things are right, you can see a .30-06 
  bullet
  traveling, too. I was using a spotting scope while a friend was 
  shooting
  an '03A3 at a target 600 yards away. He didn't belive me that I could 
  see
  the bullet flying, so he looked while I shot. He could see it, too.
 
 Wow.  I saw downloaded 9mm bullets flying.  We were shooting at
 dusk and whoever held the flashlight could see the bullets fly.
 Not the regular velocity rounds, just the slow ones.  Cool.

These were fully-loaded, rather hot .30-06 FMJ rounds. The copper color of
the jacket helped the visibility.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] CB Caps

2008-06-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
It's easy to see a round flying away from you at a shooting range because
you only need to concentrate in one small spot and you do very little
tracking. You won't be able to see the same bullet flying across your field
of vision because your eyes can't react fast enough. At most, you may
glimpse a blurr.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] CB Caps

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:52:23 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  And if the light and other things are right, you can see a .30-06 
  bullet
  traveling, too. I was using a spotting scope while a friend was 
  shooting
  an '03A3 at a target 600 yards away. He didn't belive me that I could 
  see
  the bullet flying, so he looked while I shot. He could see it, too.
 
 Wow.  I saw downloaded 9mm bullets flying.  We were shooting at
 dusk and whoever held the flashlight could see the bullets fly.
 Not the regular velocity rounds, just the slow ones.  Cool.

These were fully-loaded, rather hot .30-06 FMJ rounds. The copper color of
the jacket helped the visibility.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT:bending steel pipe/quenching

2008-06-19 Thread jfreezn
Allen,


?


I just pulled an 091 6 rib side shifter trans out of a 79 or 80 Vanagon.? I am 
going to convert it to a front shifter (for my dune buggy)so left all the 
shifting mechanism at the U-pull it.? If your repair is not successful (tho it 
sounds plenty strong enough), and the parts are rare enough, you may want me to 
retrieve the part you need.? Is yours a side shifter?? Is it the actual shift 
lever you need, or one of the pieces of the horizontal rod (there were 3)


?


Let the part cool naturally from a dark cherry red for the toughest 
cure--quenching in water will make it brittle again.? Quenching in oil will get 
you some where in between, but as someone said, the amount of carbon in the 
steel really makes a difference.


?


Jim in Phoenix










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Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 6:05 pm

Subject: [MBZ] bending steel pipe





I need to straighten a slightly bent piece of steel pipe.  It is the  gearshift 
lever from my Vanagon, which broke in two due to metal  fatigue.  The pipe is 
about 5/8 OD hollow steel pipe.  I ground the  two broken ends smooth, 
threaded them about 3/4 into each end and cut  a 1.5 piece of 3/8 threaded 
rod which I used to reconect the two  halves.  Then I welded around the seam 
with my MIG welder.Problem is, the rod is still slightly bent, below the 
break.  Slightly  curved would be more like it, there's no distinct bend.  I 
plan to  heat it with a MAPP torch and straighten it out.  Once it's straight,  
should I dunk it in water or let it cool in the air?Allan  --   1983 300D   
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