Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Loren Faeth]

you don't buy anything from them directly.  they supply a lot of food 
companies.  If you think  you can hurt them, then don't eat pizza, or 
any factory meatballs (subway etc)  They make precooked meats.   I 
doubt they will notice the dent.


Fish, hunt, shoot, fill your freezer, and  you won't be supporting 
them.  Send your dues in to the NRA and the Ikes.


At 09:49 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote:

Loren wrote:
> the local meat topping plant was sold to a big
> company, and the illegals were brought in.
>
> They will never catch anyone, and if they do, they will never be punished.

We can punish the meat plant - give us a name and we won't be
purchasing their stuff anymore.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[OK Don]

Can it be driven?

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for
> parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one would
> make a good car.  Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of the doors
> is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping required.  All the
> doors and liftgate work.  All the sheet metal is straight,  I found no
> damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the vicinity of the EGR are
> burned.  Has good hydraulic suspension components, including tandem pump.
>  Interior is intact, but will be smoked.  Trans is good.  Had a brand new
> radiator, front fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum
> pump.  TIres are not burned.  Rear glass is broken out.  Windshield is
> cracked.  Paint on the inside of the doors is good.  Kaleb turned it down.
>  Make an offer   It is in central IA.   Title is clean, not marked as
> rebuilt or junk.  (No loans and no insurance at the time)  email to lfaeth a
> t leadingchange   c om
>
> I will make pictures available to interested parties.
>
> Loren Faeth
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Gary Hurst]

Unless it's a nickel cheaper.  For a dime cheaper, half these guys
would buy a lampshade from hitler

On 10/1/09, Mountain Man  wrote:
> Loren wrote:
>> the local meat topping plant was sold to a big
>> company, and the illegals were brought in.
>>
>> They will never catch anyone, and if they do, they will never be punished.
>
> We can punish the meat plant - give us a name and we won't be
> purchasing their stuff anymore.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Mountain Man]

Loren wrote:
> the local meat topping plant was sold to a big
> company, and the illegals were brought in.
>
> They will never catch anyone, and if they do, they will never be punished.

We can punish the meat plant - give us a name and we won't be
purchasing their stuff anymore.
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Re: [MBZ] The "New" Woody

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:18:48 -0700 (PDT) LWB250  wrote:

> This is safe for work, trust me...
> http://www.joeharmondesign.com/index.html

U ... no, thanks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions

[Richard Hattaway]

I don't heat the spindle directly.  Only the BJ.  That's why I like to use the 
BT wrench.  It's pretty pinpoint about what gets hot.  I also don't try to melt 
anything, just add some heat to the BJ.  Then it comes out easier.

There are situations where the manual's version of the operation will not work. 
 You just cannot beat the thing out, and risk destroying the (very brittle) 
cast iron spindle if you get too energetic.  

I have had lower BJ's that came out with a plain ball pien hammer, hit with the 
round part in the very center of the BJ.  And I have had BJ's that required the 
blue tipped wrench.  But in no case have I heated the cast iron to any point 
that would change its character.  

I think on my next set ( which I hope never happens (c: ) I will (wearing 
glasses) use a ball pien hammer with the round part on the BJ, and in the other 
hand hit the ball pein flat surface with a *large* hammer.  Maybe fold in the 
sides of the BJ a bit before hitting it with the hammer/socket combo.  I often 
wonder if that's why the one set came out so easy with the BP hammer.

All of this requires proper rigid support of the spindle casting, which is 
difficult.  Any 'give' and the hammer method simply won't work.  

Richard

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Peter Frederick  wrote:

> From: Peter Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 1:09 AM
> Do what the book says to remove them
> -- use a sledge hammer.  Heating the forged spindle
> carrier risks deforming or weakening it, later resulting the
> catastrophic failure.  They come right out once you hit
> them square.
> 
> The Harbor Freight tool works fine so long as you take the
> dust boot off and use the hole at the top directly on the
> ball joint -- there is no way to get it to fit
> otherwise.  We welded a couple large steel plates tot
> he sides to keep it from bending (it's quite soft and
> deforms easily).  A replacement screw with a fine
> thread would be a good idea, too.  Once stabilized, it
> will push the joints right in.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 


  

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Loren Faeth]

no, it was not my house.  SOL

At 11:13 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote:
Did homeowners policy cover something like that?  Just curious - 
seems like they would, unless it was too low?


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Loren Faeth]

No, it was one of 6 arsons,  one of three breakins and one of one 
tire slashings prior to the fire  (4 tractor drive tires.)  (Since 
may). In a formerly safe small town.  the local meat topping plant 
was sold to a big company, and the illegals were brought in.


They will never catch anyone, and if they do, they will never be punished.

At 10:35 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote:

Loren Faeth wrote:

My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson)


Ouch. Any leads on the culprit(s)?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Loren Faeth]

Front bumper is ok.  Rear bumper cover is melted  It is white 
exterior, blue interior.  Instrument cluster is good.  NO I have no 
time or place to part it out.  You can buy the whole thing for a song 
and do it yourself.


At 09:45 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote:

How are the bumpers?  Interior color?  Instrument cluster all work
right?  Are you going to part it out?

Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:35 AM
To: mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for
parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one
would make a good car.  Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of
the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping
required.  All the doors and liftgate work.  All the sheet metal is
straight,  I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the
vicinity of the EGR are burned.  Has good hydraulic suspension
components, including tandem pump.  Interior is intact, but will be
smoked.  Trans is good.  Had a brand new radiator, front fenders and
hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum pump.  TIres are not
burned.  Rear glass is broken out.  Windshield is cracked.  Paint on the
inside of the doors is good.  Kaleb turned
it down.  Make an offer   It is in central IA.   Title is clean, not
marked as rebuilt or junk.  (No loans and no insurance at the
time)  email to lfaeth a t leadingchange   c om

I will make pictures available to interested parties.

Loren Faeth


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[MBZ] Personality of Laberdoodles

[Angelo Giaimo]

 Mitch Haley  wrote re: Personality of Labradoodles:


"For the same reason you shouldn't impregnate your cousin."

Mitch,  Your logic escapes me...but that's OK. (BTW, that's in-breeding, not
cross-breeding) But I did get a good laugh at your response.

Also, I have no intention of buying a Cad and moving to Florida, either.


And herees  Lucy.

Angelo
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[MBZ] Recall: 240D Ball Joints Questions

[Greg Fiorentino]

Greg Fiorentino would like to recall the message, "240D Ball Joints
Questions".
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[MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions

[Greg Fiorentino]

Hi:

My son just brought the '80 240D in to get the front end aligned, and
reported we need ball joints (not entirely a surprise).  The quote was $730.
It looks like parts will cost around $200 from Rusty if I DIY.

Looking at the archives, I see some broken links to write-ups how to do
this, and some saying compressor required, some saying not.

I'd like to save the $500.  OTOH I'd rather pay the money than deal with the
possibility of flying steel.

Questions:

!- Can someone supply me with live links to the write-ups?
2- What's the definitive answer on compressors?  Required for a safe job, or
not?

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300TD (with new crate engine)
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions

[Peter Frederick]

Do what the book says to remove them -- use a sledge hammer.  Heating  
the forged spindle carrier risks deforming or weakening it, later  
resulting the catastrophic failure.  They come right out once you hit  
them square.


The Harbor Freight tool works fine so long as you take the dust boot  
off and use the hole at the top directly on the ball joint -- there  
is no way to get it to fit otherwise.  We welded a couple large steel  
plates tot he sides to keep it from bending (it's quite soft and  
deforms easily).  A replacement screw with a fine thread would be a  
good idea, too.  Once stabilized, it will push the joints right in.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[archer]

Hi Ernest,
I'll give them a call.
Thanks,
Gerry
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From: "ernest breakfield" 
hi Gerry!
   we have multiple drivers and vehicles on it and rates are not the 
same everywhere, so i'm not sure how relevant a comparison would be.


   what i see on the website for here in CA and NV shows $54-109/year 
depending on coverage, and note that UT has a different scale. you'll 
need to check wherever you are and for which coverage you want.

cheers!
e

archer wrote:
Pulled up their website but couldn't get a price.  What do they charge 
you?

Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions

[Richard Hattaway]

Greg,

You do not need a compressor...

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=254137

Start with Dannym's post, those above it are mostly wrong.  Read from there 
down, you will find a lot of good info re this repair.

Be careful.  Lots of forces involved, but certainly not an unsafe job if you 
are observant and thoughtful.

I made a press, don't bother.  You can have mine if you come to Salisbury to 
get it.  I wont ship it for less than 40 bux (c: .. 

I think the AZ one will do fine.  You are using it backwards from it's original 
design, but that's OK.  More thinking.  I also heard the harbor freight one 
works well.  Mine was made to fit, and used a hydraulic jack as the force 
factor.  Lots of 3/4 steel plate in mine.

I use a blue tipped wrench and an old socket to remove the old joints.  They 
come out fast once they see significant heat.  Sort out how you are gonna 
support the spindle before you try to drive out the joint.  One advisor said to 
cool the joint?? not sure about that, but I can say w/o reservation to NOT use 
something that is fake oem from some american company.  Ask Rusty, use the 
right stuff.  No place to scrimp, as the tolerances are tight.  And as someone 
else said, make sure they go in straight.

Boostin benz has some notes, they have a link in the link I put in above.  All 
my stuff is stored, I moved and cant get to it, or I would send you the entire 
procedure as done in my shop.  

Good luck, it's a DIY but plan for a day.

Richard



--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Greg Fiorentino  wrote:

> From: Greg Fiorentino 
> Subject: [MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 7:13 PM
> 
> Hi:
> 
> My son just brought the '80 240D in to get the front end
> aligned, and
> reported we need ball joints (not entirely a
> surprise).  The quote was $730.
> It looks like parts will cost around $200 from Rusty if I
> DIY.
> 
> Looking at the archives, I see some broken links to
> write-ups how to do
> this, and some saying compressor required, some saying
> not.
> 
> I'd like to save the $500.  OTOH I'd rather pay the
> money than deal with the
> possibility of flying steel.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> !- Can someone supply me with live links to the write-ups?
> 2- What's the definitive answer on compressors? 
> Required for a safe job, or
> not?
> 
> Greg Fiorentino
> '85 300SD
> '80 240D 4 spd. manual
> '79 300TD (with new crate engine)
> '95 and '97 Crown Vics
> '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I would love to have got the thing, but I just could not justify the 
distance to get it.


Loren Faeth wrote:
My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale 
for parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty 
one would make a good car.  Pretty much all the paint above the 
midlevel of the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint 
stripping required.  All the doors and liftgate work.  All the sheet 
metal is straight,  I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum 
lines in the vicinity of the EGR are burned.  Has good hydraulic 
suspension components, including tandem pump.  Interior is intact, but 
will be smoked.  Trans is good.  Had a brand new radiator, front 
fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum pump.  
TIres are not burned.  Rear glass is broken out.  Windshield is 
cracked.  Paint on the inside of the doors is good.  Kaleb turned it 
down.  Make an offer   It is in central IA.   Title is clean, not 
marked as rebuilt or junk.  (No loans and no insurance at the time)  
email to lfaeth a t leadingchange   c om


I will make pictures available to interested parties.

Loren Faeth

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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

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Re: [MBZ] broke down

[LWB250]

Which is great if you own an MB, which I don't at present.  And it doesn't 
cover your other cars and motorcycle, either.
I'm not knocking roadside assistance, just pointing out that AAA is a global 
form of coverage, so no matter what you're driving it covers you...
Dan

--- On Thu, 10/1/09, relng...@aol.com  wrote:

From: relng...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] broke down
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:54 PM

> ...However, it doesn't cover replacing dead batteries, jump starts, 
> running out of gas, etc., which *is* covered by AAA...
> 
As does MBUSA roadside service at no cost except for parts. That's for ANY 
Mercedes of any age regardless of how many owners it's had.

RLE


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[MBZ] The "New" Woody

[LWB250]

This is safe for work, trust me...
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Re: [MBZ] broke down

[RELNGSON]

> ...However, it doesn't cover replacing dead batteries, jump starts, 
> running out of gas, etc., which *is* covered by AAA...
> 
As does MBUSA roadside service at no cost except for parts. That's for ANY 
Mercedes of any age regardless of how many owners it's had.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions

[Peter Frederick]

We have a shop made tool to press the lower joints in.  Uppers are  
easy, lowers are NOT.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Purge

[LarryT]

Hi Max,
Well, that's a scary scenario!   Let's hope it isn't true!  I was planning 
to run some DP thru tonight.  In the past I had to use some stuff called 
Ferox to clean things.  My '91 had only 99k mi on it (avg 7000/yr) and later 
speaking to the PO's assistant I learned he drove it daily round trip of 
about 4 miles.  So it never got warm and that low temp driving  created 
carbon in the combustion system.  I got rid of it with the Ferox and my wife 
helped by putting 100  mi +/- daily which was probably the best method. 
She's now only driving 32 mi. RT daily  and I always put a dose (~4 oz) 
Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel with each fill up, but the raves I hear about 
Diesel Purge are so phenomenal I wanted to give it a try.  Lately, our W124 
300D has been idling roughly so I thought that'd be a good starting point - 
I've checked most lt the i


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Larry,

Plan to spend about 15 or 20 minutes per can.

I found a thread once on mercedesshop forum where a gentleman (who
claimed to rebuild IP's for a living or some such) wrote that Diesel
Purge caused damage because it loosened and flowed all the crap inside
the pump, so the pump elements and the injectors could be damaged when
all this crap with abrasive qualities came through at once.  Depending
on what's in your pump, and if it has been feed a diet of low quality
fuel and never been cleaned by diesel purge, this guy said that there
could be deposits inside minding their own business and not bothering
anything, so why mess with them?  If your injectors need cleaning, take
them out and clean them by hand instead.

I supposed that using bio-diesel or VO, which has much stronger cleaning
properties than #2 ULSD, may have the same affect?

Anyone else ever heard of such a thing?  Anyone have a friend in the IP
rebuild business they could ask and verify?  I am skeptical; it seems to
me that the IP was probably super clean at installation in the engine,
and from then on all the fuel was filtered, so where could any abrasive
particles come from to be deposited inside the pump?

Max

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Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Purge

I plan to run a can of Diesel Purge in my '91 300D for the 1st time.

Question, the fuel return lines goes into the can as does fuel feed
line.   How will I know when the full can of DP has run through the
engine?  Doesn't the fuel return line keep refilling the can with excess
fuel?

Also, about how long does it typically take - assuming I'll run the
engine at around 1500rpm?

Thanks!

LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

[R A Bennell]

So, let him fix it and then buy it from him. Were you planning to do the work 
yourself or were you going to take it
to him for some or all of it anyway?

RAndy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?


Well, I stopped by his garage over lunch, and he bought it.  His major
concern is the head gasket, he may re-sell.  I wish I'd moved a little
quicker.

Max

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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

> Other bad news; as I was leaving the owner of the independent MB
> garage I use was pulling up to look at the car.  So, I'm now bidding
> against someone who knows as much if not more than me.

No problem. Either he bought it, in which case you don't have to make a
decision, or he didn't, in which case he's not bidding against you.
Generally speaking, somebody like that does not want to pay much for a
project.
He's more in danger of getting his offer refused because you're still a
potential buyer than the other way around.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] old vs new diesels

[R A Bennell]

And my 76 300D

Randy

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> ...Or 77 HP from 3 L. 
> 
> Randy...
> 
Now you're talking about my '78 300D.

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Re: [MBZ] old vs new diesels

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

But more HP  than my 78 240D.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI
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> ...Or 77 HP from 3 L. 
> 
> Randy...
> 
Now you're talking about my '78 300D.

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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

[andrew strasfogel]

IMO you were lucky that someone else stepped in.  There was too long a list
of flaws, and the head gasket issue was the show stopper.

For the record, compiling a list of the good features on a used car is at
best uninformative, and more often than not misleading.  I like to ask
sellers the simple question "What work would I have to get done to your car
to make it PERFECT?"

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> Well, I stopped by his garage over lunch, and he bought it.  His major
> concern is the head gasket, he may re-sell.  I wish I'd moved a little
> quicker.
>
> Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?
>
> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>
> > Other bad news; as I was leaving the owner of the independent MB
> > garage I use was pulling up to look at the car.  So, I'm now bidding
> > against someone who knows as much if not more than me.
>
> No problem. Either he bought it, in which case you don't have to make a
> decision, or he didn't, in which case he's not bidding against you.
> Generally speaking, somebody like that does not want to pay much for a
> project.
> He's more in danger of getting his offer refused because you're still a
> potential buyer than the other way around.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[dave walton]

I wrote some software to manage the local impound lot a while back.
Tow truck drivers often demand payment in cash before they unhook your
vehicle. No checks, no credit cards. If you don't have the cash, they
take it to the impound lot. A 100 mile tow cost just shy of $600 at
the time with impound fees on top of that. Even when traveling I don't
carry that much cash around. It's great that State Farm will reimburse
you - after the impound lot opens Monday morning.

I have AAA with extended towing.

-Dave Walton

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> Any of you guys have AAA?  Thinking about signing up and looking at that
> premier deal, with the longer towing, 100 miles with one time 200 mile tow.
>  Is that just 1 time per year 200 mile tow?  Is it worth the price?  Do you
> get good discounts at hotels and such?
>
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
> 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] old vs new diesels

[RELNGSON]

> ...Or 77 HP from 3 L. 
> 
> Randy...
> 
Now you're talking about my '78 300D.

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[MBZ] 240D Ball Joints Questions

[Greg Fiorentino]

Hi:

My son just brought the '80 240D in to get the front end aligned, and
reported we need ball joints (not entirely a surprise).  The quote was $730.
It looks like parts will cost around $200 from Rusty if I DIY.

Looking at the archives, I see some broken links to write-ups how to do
this, and some saying compressor required, some saying not.

I'd like to save the $500.  OTOH I'd rather pay the money than deal with the
possibility of flying steel.

Questions:

!- Can someone supply me with live links to the write-ups?
2- What's the definitive answer on compressors?  Required for a safe job, or
not?

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300TD (with new crate engine)
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Well, I stopped by his garage over lunch, and he bought it.  His major
concern is the head gasket, he may re-sell.  I wish I'd moved a little
quicker.

Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

> Other bad news; as I was leaving the owner of the independent MB 
> garage I use was pulling up to look at the car.  So, I'm now bidding 
> against someone who knows as much if not more than me.

No problem. Either he bought it, in which case you don't have to make a
decision, or he didn't, in which case he's not bidding against you.
Generally speaking, somebody like that does not want to pay much for a
project. 
He's more in danger of getting his offer refused because you're still a
potential buyer than the other way around.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Personality of Labradoodles (was Re: I'm back!)

[andrew strasfogel]

Ha.  Never thought of that.  Perhaps his male human has a disability.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:

> Cadence would be a good name for a guide dog.
>
> Kevin in Palm Springs, CA, between Diesels
>
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[LWB250]

We have full coverage through State Farm, which does include towing.  However, 
it doesn't cover replacing dead batteries, jump starts, running out of gas, 
etc., which *is* covered by AAA.
Dan

--- On Thu, 10/1/09, LarryT  wrote:

From: LarryT 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:08 PM

   You know you have breakdown assistance from MB right - (it follows the car 
whether you bought it originally or not for the lifetime of the car)? Also, 
your car insurance sells a add-on for towing reimbursement - they may reimburse 
for other things as well.    I think it adds about $1.25/yr to my State Farm 
policy.

Take care -
LarryT
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> As the spouse of a former AAA member, I can say that even with our company 
> discount it was still something I would have.  Because we have fairly late 
> model cars (2001 & 2005) I'm not terribly worried about breakdowns or needing 
> a tow, but it's nice to know if we needed them it would be taken care of.  
> More importantly, my teenager is driving now, and if he would ever need 
> roadside assistance I have the peace of mind that he's got a AAA card as well 
> should he need it.
> It's nice if you have a motorcycle, too, as if you add the MC coverage they 
> will pick up and transport your bike if it breaks down.
> As for their travel and insurance services, well, in my opinion, they suck.  
> The driver's license/registration thing is convenient, though.  I don't know 
> if they offer that in every state, however.
> Dan
> 
> --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
>  wrote:
> 
> From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
> 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 7:16 AM
> 
> Our premiums didn't go up.  I used it when a front ball joint got too
> wonky for my taste and I decided to have the car towed to the shop vice
> drive it in.  I think any insurance co. would rather have you get a tow
> than risk driving a car that may fail catastrophically.  My wife used it
> when clutch went out on her Infiniti (hose sprung a leak) and had the
> car towed home for me fix.  Good call on her part and certainly less
> risk for the insco; I would have driven sans clutch like I have many
> times in various vehicles in the past.  Once my brother was coming to
> visit and his truck broke down at the edge of town; I called my
> insurance co. and they dispatched a truck for him but he had to pay the
> bill.
> 
> Kaleb, I think you should look into the insco option if you really just
> need to cover your Wife/son for flats and tows home.  Press the insco to
> put their policy in writing about affect on premiums, and make sure they
> can approve a tow home vice an authorized repair facility.  I'll bet it
> will be lots cheaper than AAA.
> 
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> LCDR Max Dillon
> '87 300TD 314k miles
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:48 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA
> 
> I have never really had an occasion to really need AAA, but figured
> there is a 1st time for everything.  It would make it easier though if
> the wife has a flat, or breaks down and needs a tow and I am off working
> somewhere.  Just let them come out and tow her back home so I dont have
> to get the trailer out, or fix her tire or whatever.  Speaking of those
> tow plans with insurance companies, I have heard that some of them will
> actually treat it as a claim and raise your premiums if you use the tow
> portion, just like a wreck or something.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

[Mitch Haley]

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:


Other bad news; as I was leaving the owner of the independent MB garage
I use was pulling up to look at the car.  So, I'm now bidding against
someone who knows as much if not more than me.


No problem. Either he bought it, in which case you don't have to make a 
decision, or he didn't, in which case he's not bidding against you.
Generally speaking, somebody like that does not want to pay much for a project. 
He's more in danger of getting his offer refused because you're still a 
potential buyer than the other way around.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Purge

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Larry,

Plan to spend about 15 or 20 minutes per can.

I found a thread once on mercedesshop forum where a gentleman (who
claimed to rebuild IP's for a living or some such) wrote that Diesel
Purge caused damage because it loosened and flowed all the crap inside
the pump, so the pump elements and the injectors could be damaged when
all this crap with abrasive qualities came through at once.  Depending
on what's in your pump, and if it has been feed a diet of low quality
fuel and never been cleaned by diesel purge, this guy said that there
could be deposits inside minding their own business and not bothering
anything, so why mess with them?  If your injectors need cleaning, take
them out and clean them by hand instead.  

I supposed that using bio-diesel or VO, which has much stronger cleaning
properties than #2 ULSD, may have the same affect?

Anyone else ever heard of such a thing?  Anyone have a friend in the IP
rebuild business they could ask and verify?  I am skeptical; it seems to
me that the IP was probably super clean at installation in the engine,
and from then on all the fuel was filtered, so where could any abrasive
particles come from to be deposited inside the pump?

Max

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Purge

I plan to run a can of Diesel Purge in my '91 300D for the 1st time.  

Question, the fuel return lines goes into the can as does fuel feed
line.   How will I know when the full can of DP has run through the
engine?  Doesn't the fuel return line keep refilling the can with excess
fuel?

Also, about how long does it typically take - assuming I'll run the
engine at around 1500rpm?

Thanks!

LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k, or maybe $3k, or maybe less?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

OK, here's the low-down.  Finally got to see the car last night.  Very
sharp looking car, but I'm on the fence as to making an offer.

Good:  
-Evapectomy has been done; ACC functions perfectly and will freeze you
out of the car.  Not sure if vacuum pods were done at same time, but
they all seem to work.
-Other than the headliner which is falling down, interior looks really
nice.
-Exterior is very nice, straight, rust-free; metallic silver paint, a
great color.  I really only like white and silver in South Carolina heat
and humidity.
-Vacuum pump has been changed.  Record of repair at ~150k miles shows
new timing chain at same time, and some other stuff from front of
engine.  I suspect vacuum pump failed, dumped into front engine cover
and took out the timing chain.  Lucky the motor wasn't destroyed as
well.
-New radiator and condenser and grill after minor collision with trailer
hitch; engine holds temperature nicely.

Bad:
-Owner says it uses coolant, about a cup every two weeks/500 miles and
shop has declared that head-gasket needs replacement.  I haven't yet
confirmed, would surprise me if shop wanted to do the work even if not
needed or perhaps combine it with the following
-One or more glow plugs are bad, and isn't this engine (OM606) notorious
for breaking off glow plugs which then require head removal?
-Engine electrical harness is original and owner says shop says it needs
replacement.
-Engine has low power; during wide open throttle acceleration, power
dropped off significantly at about 4k RPM and the car would quit
accelerating and not up shift.  I did two runs, and it was a little
better on second run, so maybe it simply is really carboned up (lots of
smoke during both runs) or maybe some of the complex stuff in the intake
is not working correctly.
-Right rear window regulator has failed, window is taped in place to
hold it up.
-Coolant is green stuff.
-Brakes pulsate, probably warped rotors.
-Records are incomplete, seem to be no records of oil changes for
significant periods in first 150k of cars life, but then good records
after that.  First indicated oil change is at 8k miles?!?  Some service
at dealerships, some at independent garages. 
-Rear view mirror adjustment is broken
-Passenger visor vanity mirror cover is broken

Owner is advertising for $3800, told me after test drive that he'd take
$3000 "as is" or $3400 after fixing the rear window.

I'm thinking about offering $2500 after testing coolant for presence of
gasses indicating head gasket failure.  I would need to fix brakes, glow
plugs, window regulator, and change coolant immediately.

Other bad news; as I was leaving the owner of the independent MB garage
I use was pulling up to look at the car.  So, I'm now bidding against
someone who knows as much if not more than me.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 314k miles
Charleston SC



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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:23 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '95 E300 for $4k

It's a really desirable car and could easily merit that price

On 9/24/09, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
 wrote:
> Dieselvolk,
>
> I've located a '95 E300, 243k miles, all records, for about $4k.  
> Silver with grey interior, from the pix looks to be in very good 
> shape.  Seem like a fair price?
>
> I need to add a third car to our stable so that I can start some of 
> the larger projects on my wagon (like overhauling the rear suspension)

> and not be racing the clock every night to get her road-worthy again.
>
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> LCDR Max Dillon
> '87 300TD 314k miles
> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] OT Halloween

[Rich Thomas]

Saw this and recalled someone was looking for some good decorations

http://www.halloween-haunted-house.com/how.html#guts

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Re: [MBZ] A-Class diesel engine goes flying

[R A Bennell]

Or 77 HP from 3 L.

Randy

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] A-Class diesel engine goes flying


Cool!  Wish we could get some of those engines over here. 168HP from 2.0
liters is a lot better than my 124HP from 2.5 liters ---

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:52 PM,  wrote:

> Scroll down near the bottom for the video.
>
> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/bizav/1467-full.html
>
> RLE
>
> --
> OK Don
> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with
> others.
> The Devil's Dictionary
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[LarryT]

Did homeowners policy cover something like that?  Just curious - seems like 
they would, unless it was too low?


A friend was working on his Porsche 944 in his garage and had disconnected a 
fuel line that was plugged with a phillips screw driver.  Evidently the 
screwdriver fell out at 3 AM and the water heater pilot light came on and 
ka-boom!  He got a great settlement.  Of course he was the shrewdest 
negotiator I ever saw in action.


Take care -
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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:35 AM
To: "mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for 
parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one 
would make a good car.  Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of 
the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping 
required.  All the doors and liftgate work.  All the sheet metal is 
straight,  I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the 
vicinity of the EGR are burned.  Has good hydraulic suspension components, 
including tandem pump.  Interior is intact, but will be smoked.  Trans is 
good.  Had a brand new radiator, front fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 
miles since) New vacuum pump.  TIres are not burned.  Rear glass is broken 
out.  Windshield is cracked.  Paint on the inside of the doors is good. 
Kaleb turned it down.  Make an offer   It is in central IA.   Title is 
clean, not marked as rebuilt or junk.  (No loans and no insurance at the 
time)  email to lfaeth a t leadingchange   c om


I will make pictures available to interested parties.

Loren Faeth

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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[LarryT]

   You know you have breakdown assistance from MB right - (it follows the 
car whether you bought it originally or not for the lifetime of the car)? 
Also, your car insurance sells a add-on for towing reimbursement - they may 
reimburse for other things as well.I think it adds about $1.25/yr to my 
State Farm policy.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA

As the spouse of a former AAA member, I can say that even with our company 
discount it was still something I would have.  Because we have fairly late 
model cars (2001 & 2005) I'm not terribly worried about breakdowns or 
needing a tow, but it's nice to know if we needed them it would be taken 
care of.  More importantly, my teenager is driving now, and if he would 
ever need roadside assistance I have the peace of mind that he's got a AAA 
card as well should he need it.
It's nice if you have a motorcycle, too, as if you add the MC coverage 
they will pick up and transport your bike if it breaks down.
As for their travel and insurance services, well, in my opinion, they 
suck.  The driver's license/registration thing is convenient, though.  I 
don't know if they offer that in every state, however.

Dan

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From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 


Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 7:16 AM

Our premiums didn't go up.  I used it when a front ball joint got too
wonky for my taste and I decided to have the car towed to the shop vice
drive it in.  I think any insurance co. would rather have you get a tow
than risk driving a car that may fail catastrophically.  My wife used it
when clutch went out on her Infiniti (hose sprung a leak) and had the
car towed home for me fix.  Good call on her part and certainly less
risk for the insco; I would have driven sans clutch like I have many
times in various vehicles in the past.  Once my brother was coming to
visit and his truck broke down at the edge of town; I called my
insurance co. and they dispatched a truck for him but he had to pay the
bill.

Kaleb, I think you should look into the insco option if you really just
need to cover your Wife/son for flats and tows home.  Press the insco to
put their policy in writing about affect on premiums, and make sure they
can approve a tow home vice an authorized repair facility.  I'll bet it
will be lots cheaper than AAA.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 314k miles
Charleston SC



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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA

I have never really had an occasion to really need AAA, but figured
there is a 1st time for everything.  It would make it easier though if
the wife has a flat, or breaks down and needs a tow and I am off working
somewhere.  Just let them come out and tow her back home so I dont have
to get the trailer out, or fix her tire or whatever.  Speaking of those
tow plans with insurance companies, I have heard that some of them will
actually treat it as a claim and raise your premiums if you use the tow
portion, just like a wreck or something.


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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[ernest breakfield]

hi Gerry!
   we have multiple drivers and vehicles on it and rates are not the 
same everywhere, so i'm not sure how relevant a comparison would be.


   what i see on the website for here in CA and NV shows $54-109/year 
depending on coverage, and note that UT has a different scale. you'll 
need to check wherever you are and for which coverage you want.



cheers!
e


archer wrote:
Pulled up their website but couldn't get a price.  What do they charge 
you?

Gerry
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erne...@backyardengineering.org
we have AAA mostly for the wife. she's gotten numerous jump starts 
(leaving the lights on) and keyless entries (don't know how she 
manages to forget her keys in the car but have her phone!), and we've 
even used it to have a J**p towed for free to a dealer over 90 miles 
away. use it enough, though, and you'll start to get nastygrams from 
them; best to check with them for details on specific questions where 
you are, 'cuz it ain't the same everywhere.the sorts of places we 
tend to stay when traveling haven't typically offered any discounts 
for AAA, so i can't speak to that.is it perfect? heck no,... but 
it's a far sight better than nothing. cheers!

e
 
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Any of you guys have AAA?  Thinking about signing up and looking at 
that premier deal, with the longer towing, 100 miles with one time 
200 mile tow.  Is that just 1 time per year 200 mile tow?  Is it 
worth the price?  Do you get good discounts at hotels and such?



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Mitch Haley]

Loren Faeth wrote:

My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson)


Ouch. Any leads on the culprit(s)?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Personality of Labradoodles

[Gary Hurst]

some sort of german pointer dog, but i don't recall it being wire haired.
the germans just seem good at dog building

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> y'know, poodles are damn stout dogs.  as some of you may recall, my big
>> german girl used to play hard at the dog park (so much so that i stopped
>> taking her) and mostly the only dogs that could keep up with her energy
>> and
>> physicality were your hard breeds and really big powerful dogs.
>>
>
> Wasn't there a wirehaired pointing griffon (Drahthaar) that held his own
> with her?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Wirehaired_Pointer
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

How are the bumpers?  Interior color?  Instrument cluster all work
right?  Are you going to part it out?

Max 

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:35 AM
To: mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for
parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one
would make a good car.  Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of
the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping
required.  All the doors and liftgate work.  All the sheet metal is
straight,  I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the
vicinity of the EGR are burned.  Has good hydraulic suspension
components, including tandem pump.  Interior is intact, but will be
smoked.  Trans is good.  Had a brand new radiator, front fenders and
hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum pump.  TIres are not
burned.  Rear glass is broken out.  Windshield is cracked.  Paint on the
inside of the doors is good.  Kaleb turned 
it down.  Make an offer   It is in central IA.   Title is clean, not 
marked as rebuilt or junk.  (No loans and no insurance at the 
time)  email to lfaeth a t leadingchange   c om

I will make pictures available to interested parties.

Loren Faeth 


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[MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?

[Loren Faeth]

My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale 
for parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a 
rusty one would make a good car.  Pretty much all the paint above the 
midlevel of the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint 
stripping required.  All the doors and liftgate work.  All the sheet 
metal is straight,  I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum 
lines in the vicinity of the EGR are burned.  Has good hydraulic 
suspension components, including tandem pump.  Interior is intact, 
but will be smoked.  Trans is good.  Had a brand new radiator, front 
fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum 
pump.  TIres are not burned.  Rear glass is broken out.  Windshield 
is cracked.  Paint on the inside of the doors is good.  Kaleb turned 
it down.  Make an offer   It is in central IA.   Title is clean, not 
marked as rebuilt or junk.  (No loans and no insurance at the 
time)  email to lfaeth a t leadingchange   c om


I will make pictures available to interested parties.

Loren Faeth 



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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[LWB250]

As the spouse of a former AAA member, I can say that even with our company 
discount it was still something I would have.  Because we have fairly late 
model cars (2001 & 2005) I'm not terribly worried about breakdowns or needing a 
tow, but it's nice to know if we needed them it would be taken care of.  More 
importantly, my teenager is driving now, and if he would ever need roadside 
assistance I have the peace of mind that he's got a AAA card as well should he 
need it.
It's nice if you have a motorcycle, too, as if you add the MC coverage they 
will pick up and transport your bike if it breaks down.
As for their travel and insurance services, well, in my opinion, they suck.  
The driver's license/registration thing is convenient, though.  I don't know if 
they offer that in every state, however.
Dan

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From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 7:16 AM

Our premiums didn't go up.  I used it when a front ball joint got too
wonky for my taste and I decided to have the car towed to the shop vice
drive it in.  I think any insurance co. would rather have you get a tow
than risk driving a car that may fail catastrophically.  My wife used it
when clutch went out on her Infiniti (hose sprung a leak) and had the
car towed home for me fix.  Good call on her part and certainly less
risk for the insco; I would have driven sans clutch like I have many
times in various vehicles in the past.  Once my brother was coming to
visit and his truck broke down at the edge of town; I called my
insurance co. and they dispatched a truck for him but he had to pay the
bill.

Kaleb, I think you should look into the insco option if you really just
need to cover your Wife/son for flats and tows home.  Press the insco to
put their policy in writing about affect on premiums, and make sure they
can approve a tow home vice an authorized repair facility.  I'll bet it
will be lots cheaper than AAA.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 314k miles
Charleston SC



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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA

I have never really had an occasion to really need AAA, but figured
there is a 1st time for everything.  It would make it easier though if
the wife has a flat, or breaks down and needs a tow and I am off working
somewhere.  Just let them come out and tow her back home so I dont have
to get the trailer out, or fix her tire or whatever.  Speaking of those
tow plans with insurance companies, I have heard that some of them will
actually treat it as a claim and raise your premiums if you use the tow
portion, just like a wreck or something.


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[MBZ] OT Poodles

[Rich Thomas]

Poodles:

Were originally bred for hunting and retrieving in water.  They have web 
feet for swimming.  The hair cuts actually reflect their hunting roots 
-- the poofs on heads and feet hold air in their dense hair (like people 
hair, yes it needs to be cut every 6-8 weeks) so that they could swim 
better.  Some people have taken it to ridiculous extremes, but the dogs 
don't seem to care.  They are somewhat painful to maintain if the dogs 
like getting out in things as you have to brush them out and keep them 
from getting matted up.  Their head poofs will turn into nappy dreads 
pretty quickly.


Poodles are quite smart, some in devious ways, some in more laid-back 
ways.  They are definitely not frou-frou, and can hold their own quite 
well with any other dogs.


I have a black 76 Eldo convertible that the dogs love to ride in (and 
people like to see them in it).  Maybe in Florida you need a white 
Caddy, but then you also have to get a small poodle, not a standard.  We 
call those little ones "snacks" but they exhibit the same intelligence 
as the big ones, just kinda yappy.


Labradoodles need hair cuts too.

--R (who has 3 standard poodles now, a red female Sadie about 40 lb, 
with very strong hunting instincts, keeps the 2 80 lb phantom boys 
Merlin and Guinness in line, and spanks them when they get out of line, 
and who had a black female Molly and a parti male Marley die on us, sadly)


Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

Does a Labradoodle need frequent haircuts like a poodle?

I've only met one standard poodle in my life, and he really impressed me
to the point that my next dog, if I ever get a dog, will probably be a
poodle.  His haircut was kind of angular, Japanese-cartoon inspired, and
made him look very muscular.  He was extremely smart, calm, and
no-nonsense.  Friendly but in a very reserved sort-of way.  The only
thing that turned me off was the need for regular haircuts and
associated cost.  I guess I could learn to cut poodle hair and save some
$.

Max

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Re: [MBZ] Personality of Labradoodles

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Does a Labradoodle need frequent haircuts like a poodle?

I've only met one standard poodle in my life, and he really impressed me
to the point that my next dog, if I ever get a dog, will probably be a
poodle.  His haircut was kind of angular, Japanese-cartoon inspired, and
made him look very muscular.  He was extremely smart, calm, and
no-nonsense.  Friendly but in a very reserved sort-of way.  The only
thing that turned me off was the need for regular haircuts and
associated cost.  I guess I could learn to cut poodle hair and save some
$.

Max

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Re: [MBZ] Personality of Labradoodles

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:

y'know, poodles are damn stout dogs.  as some of you may recall, my big
german girl used to play hard at the dog park (so much so that i stopped
taking her) and mostly the only dogs that could keep up with her energy and
physicality were your hard breeds and really big powerful dogs.


Wasn't there a wirehaired pointing griffon (Drahthaar) that held his own with 
her?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Wirehaired_Pointer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle

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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Our premiums didn't go up.  I used it when a front ball joint got too
wonky for my taste and I decided to have the car towed to the shop vice
drive it in.  I think any insurance co. would rather have you get a tow
than risk driving a car that may fail catastrophically.  My wife used it
when clutch went out on her Infiniti (hose sprung a leak) and had the
car towed home for me fix.  Good call on her part and certainly less
risk for the insco; I would have driven sans clutch like I have many
times in various vehicles in the past.  Once my brother was coming to
visit and his truck broke down at the edge of town; I called my
insurance co. and they dispatched a truck for him but he had to pay the
bill.

Kaleb, I think you should look into the insco option if you really just
need to cover your Wife/son for flats and tows home.  Press the insco to
put their policy in writing about affect on premiums, and make sure they
can approve a tow home vice an authorized repair facility.  I'll bet it
will be lots cheaper than AAA.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 314k miles
Charleston SC



-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:48 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA

I have never really had an occasion to really need AAA, but figured
there is a 1st time for everything.  It would make it easier though if
the wife has a flat, or breaks down and needs a tow and I am off working
somewhere.  Just let them come out and tow her back home so I dont have
to get the trailer out, or fix her tire or whatever.  Speaking of those
tow plans with insurance companies, I have heard that some of them will
actually treat it as a claim and raise your premiums if you use the tow
portion, just like a wreck or something.


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Re: [MBZ] I'm retiring & Selling EVERYTHING (East Cooper MercedesRepair)

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I saw that and a lot of his prices seem rather steep.  Looked up the MB
tool part numbers in Startek online and the only applicable one to my
fleet (current and future) is the tool for inserting the rear engine
seal.  The ball joint press might be a good deal, if it is the real
deal. 

Max
 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:04 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] I'm retiring & Selling EVERYTHING (East Cooper
MercedesRepair)

Anyone have any interest?  Max, this could be VERRY dangerous.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1398861108.html

--R

Equipment & Special Tools can be seen at 405C West Coleman Blvd, Mt. 
Pleasant
Phone 843-884-6781
Suggested Price or Best Offer

$1,525...Snap-On Scope
$ 650...Four Gas
$ 300...Printer
$ 249...Stand
$ 500...Snap-On Battery charger
$ 900...Alternator tester
$1,100...Snap-On 80 Gallon, 5HP, Air Compressor $2,000...Rotary
Lift, 9000LB.
$1,850...Miller Mig Welder
$ 200...Gas Welding Torches
$ 50...Part Washer
$ 200...Fans
$ 100...3 Drum pumps for oil
$ 800...Wordk Bench with Vist and Trans. Holder $ 80...Drop
Light $ 650...Press Hydrolic 20 Ton $ 200...Foor Jack 1 ton
$1,000...Transsmission Snap-on $ 200...2 Desk $
100...Refrigerator $ 100...3 Phones $ 75...2 Air Hoses $
350...2 Snap-on Air hose Reels $ 50...Fax $ 200...Copy
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$ 200...2 Funnel for waste oil and antifreeze drum $ 75...File
Cabinet $ 75...Black Light $ 50...Dye injectors $ 500...AST
Diagnostic Tool $ 650...Freon Snap-on Identifier $ 500...Sun
Leak Detector $ 500...R-12 A/C Freon Recylcling Machine $
750...134A A/C Freon Recycling Machine $ 75...Shelf
$1,000...Motor Vac Carbon Cleaner $ 150...Chop Saw $
500...Hoist for Engines $ 150...3 Fire Extinguisher $
250...AST rear wheel Bearing Installer $ 50...AST M0033 $
50...AST M8900 $ 50...AST M0314 $ 50...MB Socket $
25...Small File Cabinet $ 60...3 Office Chairs $ 25...Adding
Machine $ 100...Snap-on Creeper $ 200...Snap-on Blacklight $
40...MB Tool 202-589-00-14-00 $ 50...Bushing Installer $
30...Holder MB Tools $ 20...MB Injector Socket $ 125...AST
Seal Installer $ 25...AST M1000A $ 40...AST M8904 $ 50...AST
M0359 $ 50...AST M8903 $ 20...AST Cam Pins M0320 $
150...Mercedes Tools 112-589-00-40-00 $ 200...Mercedes Tools
111-589-08-43-00 $ 250...AST Jig for Blocks $ 75...Rivet Jun $
75...Strapping tool $ 300...2 Mercedes Tool 104-589-00-40-00 $
100...Portapoven 4 Tons $ 500...Spring Compressor $
20...Wrench 41mm $ 20...Wrench 44mm $ 400...Hub and Axle
Puller $ 75...Ball Joint Press $ 50...Waste Can for Shop rags $
500...Mitchell, Chilton Labor Guide Repair Manuals for Mercedes




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Re: [MBZ] Bel Air vs Malibu and crumple zones

[LarryT]

Peter wrote <>

It's been a while since making this observation, but at one time I would 
walk junk yards looking at cars and I noticed the MB's all seemed to have 
been involved in accidents that would likely not be fatal.  While other cars 
were obviously fatal, MB's seem to protect occupants much better.  This 
wasn't scientific at all, and I suspect others may have observed the same. 
There's exceptions to the rule of course, a few years ago a car came over 
the Jersey Barrier and landed on top of a MB killing those inside - but I 
guess designing a roof structure for such a bizzare accident wouldn't make 
sense.


Larryt
91 300D

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From: "Peter Frederick" 
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:58 PM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bel Air vs Malibu and crumple zones

The flimsy construction of late 1950's and early 1960 american made  cars 
is terrifying.  I think the high speed expensive Italian ones  were worse, 
but the lack of a substantial frame and the single sheet  metal body 
simply smashed flat in accidents.  I can still close my  eyes and see the 
film of a 1961 or 1962 Oldsmobile 98 hitting a  telephone pole dead center 
at 60 mph -- the pole pretty much cut the  car in half lengthwise. 
Horrible to watch -- the rear end and drive  train come out the back from 
under the car and the body just keeps  crunching up.  Finally stops with 
the telephone pole where the rear  seat should be.  And that car weighed 
almost 4000 lbs, too.


Surprisingly, the dummy wasn't impaled on the steering column, a very 
common fatality in those days.


There was a fatal accident in town a week or so ago when some idiot 
running from the police blew a light and T-boned a Cadillac (fairly  new, 
I think) with a Ford Taurus and killed the driver of the Caddy.   I don't 
know if it was on the driver's door or passenger side, I  didn't see the 
pics, but this is similar to the accident I had the my  old 300D where I 
got hit in the driver's door by a work van (Chevy  3500 series fully 
loaded).  I walked away, somewhat battered, but the  guy in the Caddy 
died.  There is something wrong here, I think -- he  may have not had his 
seat belt on, and if not probably died from head  trauma, but if he was 
belted in he should have survived anyway.


Naturally, the idiot driving 80 miles an hour into an intersection  with a 
very narrow, 45 degree turn just past the crossroad  intersection didn't 
get a scratch.  He is going to spend significant  time in prison, though.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Personality of Labradoodles

[Gary Hurst]

y'know, poodles are damn stout dogs.  as some of you may recall, my big
german girl used to play hard at the dog park (so much so that i stopped
taking her) and mostly the only dogs that could keep up with her energy and
physicality were your hard breeds and really big powerful dogs.

there were some surprises though in dogs that could "bang and run" with
her.  one of them was the odd golden retriever.  i was amazed by how those
dogs could wake up from their gentle slumber and really go for a hard long
tussle.  the other dog the really would perk up and get physical with the
german was the standard poodle.  while the poodles did not really go for the
roll in the dirt tussle, they were most formidable in the stand up catch
wrestling and were really strong runners.

while the poodles just seemed to light up when engaged in strenuous
activity, the owners were simply horrified.  they simply started to scream
and took the poodles home, which was a real shame as the poodles were having
an absolutely swell time.

i guess we always tend to think of poodles as these sort of useless "foo
foo" little girl dogs, but i really learned differently from watching them
play with the german.  they can be really hardy and capable dogs and i'd be
proud to have one.

i only wish the poodle owner would realize this as well and let their dogs
enjoy their harder dog inclinations.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Angelo Giaimo
wrote:

> Although while crossing a poodle with a lab has created the next trendy dog
> in an effort to possibly getting the best attributes from each breed, what
> does the Lab contribute?  (Please, I'm not trying to start a flame war or
> anything, I'm just curious.)  As as per the AKC, Labradoodles are
> mixed breed dogs.AKA: "mutts" .  (BTW, there's nothing wrong with
> mutts,
> but why deliberately breed them?)  Poodles are already hypoallergenic and
> smart as hell, and if smartness and hypoallergenic is your goal, just get a
> poodle.  We've had two.  Our first lived 18 years.  Our 2'nd one (Balywick
> Beam of Light..."Lucy") just became a certified therapy dog @ 18 months.
> And ours have always been cut in Lamb cut, no ribbons, no bows, no pom-poms
> as not to look like one of those fru-fru dogs.   And a team of poodles have
> run the Iditarod in Alaska.
>
> Obligatory MB content:  Both of our poodles love to ride in our
> 1990 Mercedes 350 SDL, as the poodles and the car are all German. (Not
> French!)
>
> Angelo Giaimo
> 350SDL 276,000 Miles and still ticking.
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