Re: [MBZ] Cleaning fuel tank in car: '83 300D

2010-03-30 Thread Hans Neureiter
*Confabulation:*
The formation of false memories, perceptions, or beliefs about the self or
the environment as a result of neurological or psychological dysfunction.
...


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

 False memory?

 Google hit this interesting post, in a series of other posts that
 appear equally interesting:

 http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/02/how-memories-are-distorted-and-invented.php

 Perhaps the word you want is in there somewhere.

 -Tim


 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:03 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
  Misattribution?
 
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  John W Reames
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  Home: +14106646986
  Mobile: +14437915905
 
  On Mar 28, 2010, at 23:08, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
 wrote:
 
  On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:43:20 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Craig wrote:
 
  Marshall did not reside in Texas, but I did when I wrote the article.
  It's the article I sent Gerry earlier.
 
  I didn't think Marshall ever lived in TX.
  I saw that in the write-up, but had no idea why Marshall was the
  signature. The word is plagarism? - or were you meaning a less vile,
  less accusatory word?
 
  No, the word is not plagarism.
 
  The situation I am describing is coming across something (well written,
  accurate, thorough, insightful, excellent -- pick your word) and not
  knowing exactly where it came from. In sorting through your mind of
  possible authors, you look at the quality of the work and attribute it
 to
  a well-known expert who possibly could have written it.
 
  There is a word that describes that, but I don't remember what it is.
 
  And that's what I think happened in Richard Sexton's mind as he ran
  across the file I had sent and had forgotten where it came from.
 
 
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] New Bilsteins from Rusty

2010-03-30 Thread Curt Raymond
I've got a 24v cordless impact wrench I bought at a tool show thats not bad at 
all for $99. It claims 250# of torque which is enough to break loose most 
anything 1/2 tools are good for. It'll put on lug bolts harder than it can 
take back off though so I always use a torque wrench.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:11:19 -0500
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I just got a flyer from HF today.  they have an electric rattle 
wrench for $40.  I think you can buy an air powered one at HF for 
$30-40.


Rich,
No I do not, although it would be a great investment.  Anybody have 
one, electric or air they want to get rid of.
Mike


  
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[MBZ] Dishwasher repair

2010-03-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Funny we were talking about broken dishwashers just the other day...

My 25 year old Kitchenaid started making ugly noises and in diagnosing I 
managed to break the hard water line that feeds the machine. I didn't realize 
it was a hard line and tried to pull the unit out which you obviously can't 
do...

Its about a 3/8 soft copper line with flare fittings. I'm wondering if people 
are using soft lines for this considering its a hot water line. It'd certainly 
be easier to run a soft line than a hard line plus I don't have a flair tool.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Dishwasher repair

2010-03-30 Thread Dieselhead
They make the reinforced plastic lines for sinks and such.  One of 
those should work with the right fittings to adapt each end.  I would 
guess that if you got 25 years out of one, you would be lucky.   The 
copper tube is something that you don't have to worry about.  Most 
home despot type stores also have the SS braid lines.  Those should 
be ok too, but the liner is very thin walled.


Copper or hose, if you get one long enough to make one coil in the 
center, then someone like you can pull the unit out and not break off 
the line.


One other option is to buy a length of  high pressure hose (3/8) and 
slide it over a 2-3 stump of copper tube at each end and put hose 
clamps on it.  You don't need the high pressure, but high pressure 
hose has extra reinforcement and lasts longer than low pressure hose. 
(400 to 500 PSI is enough)  Even hose rated 250 psi would do. 
Transmission oil cooler hose from McParts should work fine.  I think 
it is rated about 250 and is made for hot operating conditions.


1000psi plastic hose is hard to work with.  I would avoid that. 
Stick with a black rubber hose.





Funny we were talking about broken dishwashers just the other day...

My 25 year old Kitchenaid started making ugly noises and in 
diagnosing I managed to break the hard water line that feeds the 
machine. I didn't realize it was a hard line and tried to pull the 
unit out which you obviously can't do...


Its about a 3/8 soft copper line with flare fittings. I'm wondering 
if people are using soft lines for this considering its a hot water 
line. It'd certainly be easier to run a soft line than a hard line 
plus I don't have a flair tool.


-Curt



 
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[MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Donald Snook
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-SEVILLE-DIESEL-IN-BEAUTIFUL-MULBERRY-RED-LIKE-NEW_W0QQitemZ150426748168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2306220508


Donald H. Snook

www.mcdonaldtinker.comhttp://www.mcdonaldtinker.com


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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
Holy Moly.

Bob R

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-SEVILLE-DIESEL-IN-BEAUTIFUL-MULBERRY-RED-LIKE-NEW_W0QQitemZ150426748168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2306220508


 Donald H. Snook

 www.mcdonaldtinker.comhttp://www.mcdonaldtinker.com


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[MBZ] TD on PHX CL

2010-03-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/1667946287.html

Really?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] New Bilsteins from Rusty

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 ...and I do not have a welder.

 Blasphemy!  Fortunately, a situation easily rectified.  :-)


Indeed.  I just got a flyer from Harbor Freight listing a 90A 120V
wire welder for $90, marked down from $150.  That combined with the
20% off any one item coupon I got from them last week is a screaming
good deal.  Think I'll pick one up.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread WILTON

Rarest thing about it is that the engine still runs.  ;)

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-SEVILLE-DIESEL-IN-BEAUTIFUL-MULBERRY-RED-LIKE-NEW_W0QQitemZ150426748168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2306220508


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Re: [MBZ] TD on PHX CL

2010-03-30 Thread WILTON
Why would the seat need some work in only 74 kmi.  Did somebody just get 
in and out of it and just sit, etc., without driving?   ;)))


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:28 AM
Subject: [MBZ] TD on PHX CL



http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/1667946287.html

Really?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Sobering WW2 war photos

2010-03-30 Thread Rolf


Wow some amazing shots. Anyone else watching The Pacific?

-Rolf
relng...@aol.com wrote:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/03/18/captured-blog-the-pacific-and-adjacent-theaters/

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Sobering WW2 war photos

2010-03-30 Thread Rolf

Ps from link at bottom

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2009/06/05/the-65th-anniversary-of-d-day-on-the-normandy-beaches/

Rolf wrote:


Wow some amazing shots. Anyone else watching The Pacific?

-Rolf
relng...@aol.com wrote:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/03/18/captured-blog-the-pacific-and-adjacent-theaters/ 



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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150426748168

That sure is a doozy, if you like that kind of thing.

IIRC it's been said that the GM 350 diesels are much #14 heads on 603s
in that if they haven't failed yet after 25+ years, they're not going
to.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
 IIRC it's been said that the GM 350 diesels are much #14 heads on 603s
 in that if they haven't failed yet after 25+ years, they're not going
 to.

That was supposed to be much LIKE #14 heads.

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Re: [MBZ] New Bilsteins from Rusty

2010-03-30 Thread R A Bennell
Unfortunately, the cure is a disease. Once you get one, then you want a bigger 
one, and a couple of different ones
etc. It gets expensive. Maybe you could just move somewhere close to Jim's 
place.

Randy

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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Bilsteins from Rusty


 ...and I do not have a welder.

Blasphemy!  Fortunately, a situation easily rectified.  :-)

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] New Bilsteins from Rusty

2010-03-30 Thread MG

That'll work too. I was just too lazy to do all that. :-)

Manfred


Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:56:12 -0400
From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Bilsteins from Rusty


Thanks for suggestion, however it was really stuck and I do not 
have a

welder.  I ended drilling and tapping for a new bolt.
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Dieselhead
no, the slightest bit of water and those nozzles will be junk. 
(unless you put a good separator/filter on it.)


That and never give it an italian tune-up and it might last a while. 
It is more like a fancy yugo




On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150426748168


That sure is a doozy, if you like that kind of thing.

IIRC it's been said that the GM 350 diesels are much #14 heads on 603s
in that if they haven't failed yet after 25+ years, they're not going
to.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread R A Bennell
I had a client who put a lot of miles on a big 4 door Oldsmobile with a diesel 
in it. He claimed it was relatively
trouble free.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!


no, the slightest bit of water and those nozzles will be junk.
(unless you put a good separator/filter on it.)

That and never give it an italian tune-up and it might last a while.
It is more like a fancy yugo


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150426748168

That sure is a doozy, if you like that kind of thing.

IIRC it's been said that the GM 350 diesels are much #14 heads on 603s
in that if they haven't failed yet after 25+ years, they're not going
to.

Alex



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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 no, the slightest bit of water and those nozzles will be junk. (unless you
 put a good separator/filter on it.)

Everything I can find online about the 5.7 diesel says that it was
unreliable in the first couple of years, but GM figured it out about
'83 or so and upgraded all the existing engines under an extensive
recall program.

So... the fact that it's lasted 30 years and runs fine means one of
the following:
1. the seller has been extremely lucky
2. the car was repaired under those recalls and now is fine
3. a water separator was installed at sale (as I've read, some more
diesel-savvy dealers did that) and kept the engine from suffering the
water-related head and injector problems that they were prone to.

I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with a
water separator.  The problem with the GM diesels, from what I can
tell, wasn't water in the fuel per se; it was inadequate head bolts,
exacerbated by the occassional slug of water in the fuel which raises
compression ratio for a cycle or two.

All this being said, I wouldn't buy one except as a curiosity.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] TD on PHX CL

2010-03-30 Thread Kevin Kraly
If the driver's seat needs some work, it's got way more than 74K on it. 
Perhaps the person just sat in the car all day in the driveway?


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 



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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread WILTON
I've always had a lot of curiosity, but, thankfully, it has never reached 
that level.  ;


BTW, when I got home from Greenland in '79 we were needing another car.  I 
had decided that I wanted to get 240D.  It was about Aug/Sep, and MB 
stealers didn't have any new ones - waiting for '80's.  Meanwhile, I drove 
past an Oldsmobile dealership and saw a new Olds Diesel sitting there; took 
it for a drive; almost bought it, but hesitated for coupla days; 'called MB 
stealer, again, and they then had a 240D.
That, along with the nights I flew missions to Hanoi, was another lucky day, 
when I did not buy that Olds.  I dodged a lot of SAMs (missiles) over Hanoi; 
dodged a big bullet that day.


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!



On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
no, the slightest bit of water and those nozzles will be junk. (unless 
you

put a good separator/filter on it.)


Everything I can find online about the 5.7 diesel says that it was
unreliable in the first couple of years, but GM figured it out about
'83 or so and upgraded all the existing engines under an extensive
recall program.

So... the fact that it's lasted 30 years and runs fine means one of
the following:
1. the seller has been extremely lucky
2. the car was repaired under those recalls and now is fine
3. a water separator was installed at sale (as I've read, some more
diesel-savvy dealers did that) and kept the engine from suffering the
water-related head and injector problems that they were prone to.

I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with a
water separator.  The problem with the GM diesels, from what I can
tell, wasn't water in the fuel per se; it was inadequate head bolts,
exacerbated by the occassional slug of water in the fuel which raises
compression ratio for a cycle or two.

All this being said, I wouldn't buy one except as a curiosity.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] TD on PHX CL

2010-03-30 Thread WILTON
'Zackly, or, maybe it's been a FL car.  I've looked at three cars that 
came out FL with significantly less miles on the odo than when they went 
into FL.


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] TD on PHX CL


If the driver's seat needs some work, it's got way more than 74K on it. 
Perhaps the person just sat in the car all day in the driveway?


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] Dishwasher repair

2010-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The line to my dishwasher is a flexible line of some sort with some sort 
of stainless steel colored covering, I think the covering is actually 
cloth of some sort though.


Curt Raymond wrote:

Funny we were talking about broken dishwashers just the other day...

My 25 year old Kitchenaid started making ugly noises and in diagnosing I 
managed to break the hard water line that feeds the machine. I didn't realize 
it was a hard line and tried to pull the unit out which you obviously can't 
do...

Its about a 3/8 soft copper line with flare fittings. I'm wondering if people 
are using soft lines for this considering its a hot water line. It'd certainly be 
easier to run a soft line than a hard line plus I don't have a flair tool.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

cool

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Re: [MBZ] New Bilsteins from Rusty

2010-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

maybe I should buy one of those as well.  Wonder if they are worth a crap?

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
  

...and I do not have a welder.
  

Blasphemy!  Fortunately, a situation easily rectified.  :-)




Indeed.  I just got a flyer from Harbor Freight listing a 90A 120V
wire welder for $90, marked down from $150.  That combined with the
20% off any one item coupon I got from them last week is a screaming
good deal.  Think I'll pick one up.

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Re: [MBZ] TD on PHX CL

2010-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley

Kevin Kraly wrote:
If the driver's seat needs some work, it's got way more than 74K on it. 
Perhaps the person just sat in the car all day in the driveway?


Or perhaps they made 150,000 half mile trips in it?

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you know, I dont think you would find another one of those that nice 
anywhere except to time travel back to 1979 and buy one new.


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

cool

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[MBZ] OT: Houston Eateries

2010-03-30 Thread Rick Knoble

I will be in Houston for a couple of days and I was wondering if anyone knows 
of a decent steak and seafood place close to down town. Anyone?

Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread E M
Might not be to everyone's taste, but you have to appreciate a well cared
for, original car.  I wouldn't trade a Benz for it, but I sure wouldn't feel
ashamed to let such a car share the garage with the benz, and old porsche.
In fact, I kinda like it. ;-)

Ed
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On 30 March 2010 19:12, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 you know, I dont think you would find another one of those that nice
 anywhere except to time travel back to 1979 and buy one new.

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 cool

 Donald Snook wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] dishwasher water lines

2010-03-30 Thread RELNGSON
Go to Home Depot and buy the length of line you need. Nobody uses solid 
lines any more. In fact, it's a   bad idea.

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Re: [MBZ] water

2010-03-30 Thread RELNGSON
 ..I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with 
 a
 water separator. ..
 
I hope you are not suggesting that they didn't need one. Because I know 
better.

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread OK Don
However, the 240D that my Grandfather bought new had a dealer installed
water separator - perhaps it was just a MN thing ---

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with a
 water separator.


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Re: [MBZ] Welders

2010-03-30 Thread Jim Cathey
maybe I should buy one of those [HF] as well.  Wonder if they are 
worth a crap?


Reportedly not very good.  But probably better than nothing!
I'm still pleased with my $50 Hobart 135, but the 175 Miller
is a much much better unit.  (At 10x the price!)

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread LarryT

Hey Kaleb -
Getting any closer to a drivers' seatbelt for my W124?  ;-)

Thx
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you know, I dont think you would find another one of those that nice 
anywhere except to time travel back to 1979 and buy one new.


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

cool

Donald Snook wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Jim Cathey

I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with a
water separator.


If by no you mean every.  The main fuel filter _is_ a
water separator.  It's just not one with a drain on the
bottom, nor one with a terribly large capacity to sequester
water.  You remove the water by replacing the filter.

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Re: [MBZ] water

2010-03-30 Thread Dieselhead
No MB diesel came out of the factory with a water separator?  maybe 
so.  certainly none for the US market after 1960 or so had a separate 
device called a water separator.  However EVERY MB diesel has a well 
designed filter that pulls fuel off the TOP effectively trapping up 
to 8 oz or so of water.


GM, on the other hand, put a crappy little filter in their Diesel 
fuel lines, hidden behind the air cleaner, and designed it so that 
ONE drop of water in the filter went directly to the injector nozzles 
and damaged the nozzles.   THAT is why anyone with an oldsmodissel 
NEEDS a water separator (and a good filter) if they expect to get any 
life out of the thing.


I had a friend who put hundreds of K miles on 80s oldsmodissel 
engines in the SHovey pickups.  When they got a pickup, they put a 
filter/separator on it.  That had a lot to do with the engine life. 
That and not running it wide open.





  ..I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with

 a
 water separator. ..


I hope you are not suggesting that they didn't need one. Because I know
better.

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with a
 water separator.

 If by no you mean every.  The main fuel filter _is_ a
 water separator.  It's just not one with a drain on the
 bottom, nor one with a terribly large capacity to sequester
 water.  You remove the water by replacing the filter.


D'oh!  You're right, of course.  You would think I would have known
that, seeing that I used to own a VW TDI with a fuel filter of almost
exactly the same size and in almost exactly the same place as on a
603, which _did_ have a little plastic drain on the bottom.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Welders

2010-03-30 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

 maybe I should buy one of those [HF] as well.  Wonder if they are
 worth a crap?

 Reportedly not very good.  But probably better than nothing!
 I'm still pleased with my $50 Hobart 135, but the 175 Miller
 is a much much better unit.  (At 10x the price!)

I have this one

  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94164

that I bought when it was on a good sale (it was about $100 off the
price currently listed).  I bought it because the garage already had a
220 outlet and I thought it would be better to have a higher power unit.

It only has 4 power settings (selected in binary with two toggle
switches on the front panel) and I find that even on the lowest setting
it will blow holes in thin sheet metal but I've successfully repaired
several things with it that would have cost much more than the price of
the welder to replace, so I'm reasonably happy with it.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Allan Streib
R A Bennell b...@mts.net writes:

 I had a client who put a lot of miles on a big 4 door Oldsmobile with
 a diesel in it. He claimed it was relatively trouble free.

Back when I worked at Domino's one of the top delivery drivers drove a
diesel Caprice.  While at work he never shut it off and never seemed to
have any problems with it.

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Re: [MBZ] Welders

2010-03-30 Thread OK Don
I used to be fairly good at welding up rusty exhaust systems with OA gas -
even though half of the rusty metal burned away, I had enough coat hangers
to fill in the holes.
What's the modern perferred tool for this job today?

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

  maybe I should buy one of those [HF] as well.  Wonder if they are
  worth a crap?
 
  Reportedly not very good.  But probably better than nothing!
  I'm still pleased with my $50 Hobart 135, but the 175 Miller
  is a much much better unit.  (At 10x the price!)

 I have this one

  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94164

 that I bought when it was on a good sale (it was about $100 off the
 price currently listed).  I bought it because the garage already had a
 220 outlet and I thought it would be better to have a higher power unit.

 It only has 4 power settings (selected in binary with two toggle
 switches on the front panel) and I find that even on the lowest setting
 it will blow holes in thin sheet metal but I've successfully repaired
 several things with it that would have cost much more than the price of
 the welder to replace, so I'm reasonably happy with it.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I like it as well, but I am not going to pay 15k for it.

E M wrote:

Might not be to everyone's taste, but you have to appreciate a well cared
for, original car.  I wouldn't trade a Benz for it, but I sure wouldn't feel
ashamed to let such a car share the garage with the benz, and old porsche.
In fact, I kinda like it. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 30 March 2010 19:12, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

  

you know, I dont think you would find another one of those that nice
anywhere except to time travel back to 1979 and buy one new.

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



cool

Donald Snook wrote:

  

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, Im getting closer everyday :) 


LarryT wrote:

Hey Kaleb -
Getting any closer to a drivers' seatbelt for my W124?  ;-)

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you know, I dont think you would find another one of those that nice 
anywhere except to time travel back to 1979 and buy one new.


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

cool

Donald Snook wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Allan Streib
The curiosity for me was the cheapo Kraco stereo unit in an otherwise
nearly pristine luxury vehicle.

Also I think the dash instrumentation, window switches, etc. on look
incredibly cheap and cheesy... but that's how all the GM cars were in
those years.

Allan

Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com writes:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-SEVILLE-DIESEL-IN-BEAUTIFUL-MULBERRY-RED-LIKE-NEW_W0QQitemZ150426748168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2306220508


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Re: [MBZ] Sobering WW2 war photos

2010-03-30 Thread Allan Streib
I was impressed by the quality of the images.  Many of them had perfect
focus and exposure, on what must have been completely manual film
cameras.  I wonder what format they were using?  Was 35mm in use in WW II?

Allan

Rolf r...@winmutt.com writes:

 Wow some amazing shots. Anyone else watching The Pacific?

 -Rolf
 relng...@aol.com wrote:
 http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/03/18/captured-blog-the-pacific-and-adjacent-theaters/


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Re: [MBZ] wasser

2010-03-30 Thread RELNGSON
 .No MB diesel came out of the factory with a water separator?  maybe
 so.  certainly none for the US market after 1960 or so had a separate
 device called a water separator.  However EVERY MB diesel has a well
 designed filter that pulls fuel off the TOP effectively trapping up
 to 8 oz or so of water
 
That may be your theory but in practice it doesn't work worth a damn. I 
dunno, maybe all that nailing from enlarged injector holes is music to your 
ears and you consider it normal. I did not. I bought my '78 300D new and during 
the warranty period (that's the first 50K miles) my dealer replaced 
thirteen injectors, or later on, injector tips, because of excess diesel 
rattle. 
Caused by small amounts of water, they said. And the warranty claims were 
approved because MB knew damn well that water could get into the injectors. 
Just 
about the time the warranty ended, I became aware of water separators and 
the Racor in particular. I bought one, fabricated a steel bracket for the 
left fender well for it and from that day on the noises caused by water damaged 
injector tips were gone forever. I drove it another 70K miles.

Just to save some effort here, please, no advice about buying from high 
volume stations or keeping the tank full to reduce condensation or any other 
standard advice. Oh, and please don't mention Marshall's comments on the 
subject.

My friend AC used to own a trucking business (about 15 KW semis running up 
and down the coast and he told me that they all had water separators and as 
a result he would finally replace injectors at about 700K miles.

RLE
 
 
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[MBZ] OT - #1 son success

2010-03-30 Thread redghost

Just a proud share from a father.

#1 son and his mock trial team swept the state championship this  
weekend.  5-0, beat the varsity team in a civil war round and took the  
title against heavy competition.  Their varsity team had been state  
champs four years running, but JV upset and won.   Now they are  
heading to Philly in five weeks to compete in nationals.


---
clay






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Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.

2010-03-30 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I did them on my wagon with the press that Rusty rents (which presses the new 
joints into place) plus:
- hack saw
- 10 lb maul
- jack stands
- lots of practice splitting firewood
 
(note that no spring compressor is needed).
 
To remove, put a jack stand under the control arm as close as possible to the 
ball joint  You want to support the control arm very near the joint.  Take off 
all the bits in the way, until all you have is the stem of the ball joint 
sticking up.  Cut that stem off flush with hack saw.  Pound out remains with 10 
lb maul (about 30 to 40 careful blows). The jack stand being close to the joint 
transfers the energy from the hammer blow directly to the joint without 
allowing the control arm to flex.  Mess up one swing and your fender will be 
scared forever.
 
After completing the job this way, I resolved to pay the man next time.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead
Sent: Sat 3/27/2010 7:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.



Jim, Thanks.  That is helpful.  But I see you used the flame wrench
to get the ball joint loose.  I don't have a flame wrench available.
I'd sure use it if I had it!  Not having the torch, I am reluctant to
try this myself.

So has anyone changed the 124 (or 201)ball joints without the torch
and without the official MB tools?
  (and without the spring compresser)

Can this [124] be done with the HF ball joint kit, or are
there modifications that require a flame wrench?

I think it's pretty much the same as the 201.  See:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d.html#30Aug2008

The base HF kit works, but you need some pipe scraps too.
I did a bit of welding on the pipe scraps, but hose clamps
might work just as well.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Sobering WW2 war photos

2010-03-30 Thread OK Don
They were using 35mm, 120 (6x6cm or 6x9cm), and 4x5 cameras. The most
grainy photos might be single frames from movie camera in either 35mm or
16mm.  Why are you surprised by good exposure, focus, and composition from
manual film cameras??? You only have to know what you're doing.
I'm impressed by all the photos of the troops arriving, the photog had to be
the first one off the boat!
A lot (if not most) of that film was processed in the field as well (or on
board the ships). You can see the results of working in less than ideal
conditions in some of the prints, though the more popular images also
suffered darkroom abuse from multiple printings.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I was impressed by the quality of the images.  Many of them had perfect
 focus and exposure, on what must have been completely manual film
 cameras.  I wonder what format they were using?  Was 35mm in use in WW II?

 Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT - #1 son success

2010-03-30 Thread OK Don
Congratulations to both of you!

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:24 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Just a proud share from a father.

 #1 son and his mock trial team swept the state championship this weekend.
  5-0, beat the varsity team in a civil war round and took the title against
 heavy competition.  Their varsity team had been state champs four years
 running, but JV upset and won.   Now they are heading to Philly in five
 weeks to compete in nationals.

 ---
 clay


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning fuel tank in car: '83 300D

2010-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:20:15 -0500 Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
wrote:

 *Confabulation:*
 The formation of false memories, perceptions, or beliefs about the self
 or the environment as a result of neurological or psychological
 dysfunction. ...

That's close, but the element of dysfunction wasn't in what I've
forgotten.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - #1 son success

2010-03-30 Thread harry watkins
Wow, way to go #1 son, congratulations.  Beating the varsity is (as VP Biden 
would say) a BIG #*$%^# deal.


Harry


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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: [MBZ] OT - #1 son success



Just a proud share from a father.

#1 son and his mock trial team swept the state championship this  weekend. 
5-0, beat the varsity team in a civil war round and took the  title 
against heavy competition.  Their varsity team had been state  champs four 
years running, but JV upset and won.   Now they are  heading to Philly in 
five weeks to compete in nationals.


---
clay






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Re: [MBZ] Here's a diesel for you!

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 I like it as well, but I am not going to pay 15k for it.


Guy near me has an '80 diesel Seville in pretty good shape on CL for
$2,000.  Problem is, '80 was the start of the next generation after
the one we are all admiring on eBay:  the hideous bustleback model on
a smaller FWD platform, using the same longitudinal V-8 with a
chain-driven transaxle a la Olds Toronado or old Saab 900.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] wasser

2010-03-30 Thread Dieselhead

DO tell us what Marshall had to say about water separators!

Well, Woger, you do live where it rains every day.  You dealer 
probably turned your filter upside down just for you!





  .No MB diesel came out of the factory with a water separator?  maybe

 so.  certainly none for the US market after 1960 or so had a separate
 device called a water separator.  However EVERY MB diesel has a well
 designed filter that pulls fuel off the TOP effectively trapping up
 to 8 oz or so of water


That may be your theory but in practice it doesn't work worth a damn. I
dunno, maybe all that nailing from enlarged injector holes is music to your
ears and you consider it normal. I did not. I bought my '78 300D new 
and during

the warranty period (that's the first 50K miles) my dealer replaced
thirteen injectors, or later on, injector tips, because of excess 
diesel rattle.

Caused by small amounts of water, they said. And the warranty claims were
approved because MB knew damn well that water could get into the 
injectors. Just

about the time the warranty ended, I became aware of water separators and
the Racor in particular. I bought one, fabricated a steel bracket for the
left fender well for it and from that day on the noises caused by 
water damaged

injector tips were gone forever. I drove it another 70K miles.

Just to save some effort here, please, no advice about buying from high
volume stations or keeping the tank full to reduce condensation or any other
standard advice. Oh, and please don't mention Marshall's comments on the
subject.

My friend AC used to own a trucking business (about 15 KW semis running up
and down the coast and he told me that they all had water separators and as
a result he would finally replace injectors at about 700K miles.


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