Re: [MBZ] Octane
> ...Last I heard, 80/87 was about six bucks per gallon and a car with an > oxygen > sensor can't use leaded fuel. > Forget that. I meant 100LL. The price holds. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
> Curt Raymond wrote: > Its cheaper to buy a nicer car... I bought this car to learn > how to work on cars. I did all the brakes, the exhaust, the > water pump (should remember to get that back), rust repair, > the antenna, replaced and repainted the hood, re-did the dash > pod (with LED lighting), radiator hoses, drag link (which I > should also keep), idler arm, and other stuff I can't even > recall right now. Its been a great classroom. If you get another 123 - keep the whole thing as a parts car. Having a spare is _way_ handy! Just tonight I "borrowed" the engine start lock assembly from the parts car for a daily driver so I make the 200 mile trip tomorrow... Rusty will be getting an order soon - but as good as he is, he cannot beat the time it takes me to walk out to the hulk. :) And we can start calling you Kaleb Jr. *grin* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
OK, but some of your stuff is "keepers" also. My indoctrination from the "injector guy" was in 1973, long before I knew of Herr Doktor. Thanks, but that nugget of knowledge was courtesy of Dr. Marshall Booth (Dr.MB)... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 22:17, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: That is absolutely right. My Injection guy, also an MB Diesel owner, said the engine will run at the spec, but if you want it to run best, to get them within 15 PSI between high and low. He would even polish shims to get just what he wanted. The real spec is 1 bar, but the the book value is 3 and when you buy rebuilt, they may have a 5 bar difference. So, if you buy rebuilt, you should get them tested before installation. I bought a set of 6 from Rusty for my SDL, and just put them in, and they were ok. It was an extra couple of days and 100 miles to get them tested first, so I just stuck them in and hoped. Good Stuff DR. John! (Dr. of Diesel) How closely are the pop pressures matched? Iirc spec is 3 bars, but the boxes ones were only at 5 bars. Dr.MB may have mentioned something about seeing a slight benefit by matching to within 1bar... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 17:44, Euan wrote: Injectors have been rebuilt. Pump has never been touched, Rolf. Down here in the Colonies, that's bigger money than the value of the wagon. Euan I would say the pump should be put on a bench and injectors rebuilt. Euan, also there should be bushings on the exhaust->trans mount. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
I had a 190Dc that was rusted so bad that when you opened the back door, it sagged so much it was hard to get the door closed again. I had welded the front bumper on with coathanger and scrap metal (It was rusted off) When a ford pulled out in front of me and I could not avoid it, The ford was totalled, and on the MB, I had to wire up the right side of the front bumper and it lost the right side chrome strip under the doors. We finished the trip and I drove it for another year or so. Now, Tell be about how your new detriot iron is better than a rusty old MB? My first MB came from Minnesota, was very rusted. I got rid of it when I couldn't open the doors when one corner was jacked up --- On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Sheesh! No way. I would rather be in a rusted out VW, BMW, or preferably, MB than a new hunk of Detriot iron or asian iron if I were going to be in a bad wreck. BTDT. That is why I say friends don't let friends drive toadas. I realize that some people have never lived where they salt roads, but rust never seriously hurt the structural integrity of an MB much, and certainly never enough to brand it a "death trap". I look at new toadas as death traps. My life was saved by a Karmann Ghia that was the rustiest car I ever saw or owned. It crushed where it was supposed to , and didn't crush where it was not supposed to, and that was a 1959 model, far before Detriot heard of crush zones. But, like Yogi, I am not the average bear. A very rusty MB is not a death trap. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Thanks, but that nugget of knowledge was courtesy of Dr. Marshall Booth (Dr.MB)... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 22:17, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > That is absolutely right. My Injection guy, also an MB Diesel owner, said > the engine will run at the spec, but if you want it to run best, to get them > within 15 PSI between high and low. He would even polish shims to get just > what he wanted. The real spec is 1 bar, but the the book value is 3 and when > you buy rebuilt, they may have a 5 bar difference. So, if you buy rebuilt, > you should get them tested before installation. > > I bought a set of 6 from Rusty for my SDL, and just put them in, and they > were ok. It was an extra couple of days and 100 miles to get them tested > first, so I just stuck them in and hoped. > > Good Stuff DR. John! (Dr. of Diesel) > > >> How closely are the pop pressures matched? Iirc spec is 3 bars, but the >> boxes ones were only at 5 bars. Dr.MB may have mentioned something about >> seeing a slight benefit by matching to within 1bar... >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jwrea...@comcast.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> >> On Jul 23, 2010, at 17:44, Euan wrote: >> >>> Injectors have been rebuilt. Pump has never been touched, Rolf. Down here >>> in the Colonies, that's bigger money than the value of the wagon. >>> >>> Euan >>> >>> I would say the pump should be put on a bench and injectors rebuilt. Euan, also there should be bushings on the exhaust->trans mount. -Rolf >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
My first MB came from Minnesota, was very rusted. I got rid of it when I couldn't open the doors when one corner was jacked up --- On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sheesh! No way. I would rather be in a rusted out VW, BMW, or > preferably, MB than a new hunk of Detriot iron or asian iron if I were > going to be in a bad wreck. BTDT. That is why I say friends don't let > friends drive toadas. > > I realize that some people have never lived where they salt roads, but rust > never seriously hurt the structural integrity of an MB much, and certainly > never enough to brand it a "death trap". I look at new toadas as death > traps. > > My life was saved by a Karmann Ghia that was the rustiest car I ever saw or > owned. It crushed where it was supposed to , and didn't crush where it was > not supposed to, and that was a 1959 model, far before Detriot heard of > crush zones. > > But, like Yogi, I am not the average bear. A very rusty MB is not a death > trap. > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid?
It doesn't specify, but I'd think that the "change" includes drianing the TC, and the "refill" is after a complete re-build. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: > Does that include draining the TC? > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. > 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. > Wickford, RI > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of OK Don > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 7:01 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid? > > A "change" is 6 liters, a "refill" is 7.1 liters, per the technical data > book. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond > wrote: > > > So when my Red 190D goes in for the punch list I'm going to have the > > transmission serviced. My Indy will put in M1 if I bring it, how much do > I > > need? > > > > '84 190D auto trans. > > > > -Curt > > > -- > OK Don > Panic! (the national past time). > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Sheesh! No way. I would rather be in a rusted out VW, BMW, or preferably, MB than a new hunk of Detriot iron or asian iron if I were going to be in a bad wreck. BTDT. That is why I say friends don't let friends drive toadas. I realize that some people have never lived where they salt roads, but rust never seriously hurt the structural integrity of an MB much, and certainly never enough to brand it a "death trap". I look at new toadas as death traps. My life was saved by a Karmann Ghia that was the rustiest car I ever saw or owned. It crushed where it was supposed to , and didn't crush where it was not supposed to, and that was a 1959 model, far before Detriot heard of crush zones. But, like Yogi, I am not the average bear. A very rusty MB is not a death trap. Sounds like a death trap! It's a good thing that the engine went before the structural integrity was compromised! He will have plenty of parts to donate to the next one, recycling! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
That is absolutely right. My Injection guy, also an MB Diesel owner, said the engine will run at the spec, but if you want it to run best, to get them within 15 PSI between high and low. He would even polish shims to get just what he wanted. The real spec is 1 bar, but the the book value is 3 and when you buy rebuilt, they may have a 5 bar difference. So, if you buy rebuilt, you should get them tested before installation. I bought a set of 6 from Rusty for my SDL, and just put them in, and they were ok. It was an extra couple of days and 100 miles to get them tested first, so I just stuck them in and hoped. Good Stuff DR. John! (Dr. of Diesel) How closely are the pop pressures matched? Iirc spec is 3 bars, but the boxes ones were only at 5 bars. Dr.MB may have mentioned something about seeing a slight benefit by matching to within 1bar... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 17:44, Euan wrote: Injectors have been rebuilt. Pump has never been touched, Rolf. Down here in the Colonies, that's bigger money than the value of the wagon. Euan I would say the pump should be put on a bench and injectors rebuilt. Euan, also there should be bushings on the exhaust->trans mount. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lead?
> Thanks, but the 100LL/avgas option doesn't seem too realistic.??With > whatever the?price of 100 octane (7 pts above even present day?premium) > combined with my thirsty steed's 11 mpg,?my 450's cost per moving mile would > rival that of the space shuttle... > Last I heard, 80/87 was about six bucks per gallon and a car with an oxygen sensor can't use leaded fuel. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
Unleaded premium will be fine. In fact, it will work BETTER than leaded fuel, since you won't be polishing off the valve seats and honing marks with lead oxide. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid?
Does that include draining the TC? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 7:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid? A "change" is 6 liters, a "refill" is 7.1 liters, per the technical data book. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > So when my Red 190D goes in for the punch list I'm going to have the > transmission serviced. My Indy will put in M1 if I bring it, how much do I > need? > > '84 190D auto trans. > > -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
I used to run my 67 Skylark on 100 avgas when I had to do errands for the FBO I worked at. It liked it just fine! --R On 7/23/2010 6:56 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: And it's around $5.00/gal In OK, you can declare the tax and pay it seperately, but I don't know that this gets you very far if you get stopped and checked -- You need to get in tight with an aviation mechanic who occasionally has to drain wing tanks to work on a plane. (but those guys usually have a big boat with twin 454s and have a use for the fuel) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid?
A "change" is 6 liters, a "refill" is 7.1 liters, per the technical data book. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > So when my Red 190D goes in for the punch list I'm going to have the > transmission serviced. My Indy will put in M1 if I bring it, how much do I > need? > > '84 190D auto trans. > > -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
Van Knutson wrote: With whatever the price of 100 octane (7 pts above even present day premium) 93 octane pump gas is the average of research plus motor method. I believe 100 octane avgas is research method, so it could easily be 93-95 octane by pump gas standards. The good news is that it doesn't turn into 90 octane after sitting in your gas tank for a month. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D adventure continues
Where you going in so-cal, Curt? Bob R On Jul 23, 2010 10:52 AM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: Took the Red 190D for inspection today. He pulled it in an immediately said "Do the lights suck at night?" I said "I dunno, I've never driven it at night" to which he replied "They're pointed right at the ground" and proceeded to adjust them for me, for free... Then we noticed the pool of ATF under the car. Whoops, didn't see that before. It makes a small pool under the nose and another under the pan, could that be just a bad cooler line? I've got a gasket and filter for a trans service I was planning on doing in a week or two. He wouldn't go any further at that point, I feel bad for dirtying his nice clean inspection bay... Fortunately I'm off to So-Cal next week so my Indy can have a week to get things right. If he can't (or if he isn't around, he hasn't returned my call yet) I may have to buy Dwights 240D pronto! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
OK Don wrote: And it's around $5.00/gal In OK, you can declare the tax and pay it seperately, but I don't know that this gets you very far if you get stopped and checked -- You need to get in tight with an aviation mechanic who occasionally has to drain wing tanks to work on a plane. (but those guys usually have a big boat with twin 454s and have a use for the fuel) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL
That's about as fast as I move -- On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:00 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > That was the plan. Just was not sure that would solve the problem. A bit > slow aren't I? Red light on for a year or > more. > > Randy > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
"Mitch Haley" m...@voyager.net Van Knutson wrote: > speaking of which, once I awaken my sleeping beauty, what should I do about > the leaded gas issue? additives etc? Well, if it weren't for tax considerations, you could run 100 octane low lead (about twice as much lead as regular gas had when it went off the market about 20 years ago) aviation fuel. The good news is that 100LL doesn't have any of the oxidizers in it that make it decompose in the fuel tank if you don't empty your tank every month or two. Very long shelf life on the avgas, but it's also not very eager to evaporate, so it doesn't make good winter fuel. *** Thanks, but the 100LL/avgas option doesn't seem too realistic. With whatever the price of 100 octane (7 pts above even present day premium) combined with my thirsty steed's 11 mpg, my 450's cost per moving mile would rival that of the space shuttle. how bout any lead or lead substitute add's you can recommend ?? Can the lead dependent valves be replaced with no-lead tolerant hardened ones? DBV, get the lead in information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
And it's around $5.00/gal In OK, you can declare the tax and pay it seperately, but I don't know that this gets you very far if you get stopped and checked -- On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Van Knutson wrote: > > speaking of which, once I awaken my sleeping beauty, what should I do about >> the leaded gas issue? additives etc? >> > > Well, if it weren't for tax considerations, you could run 100 octane low > lead (about twice as much lead as regular gas had when it went off the > market about 20 years ago) aviation fuel. The good news is that 100LL > doesn't have any of the oxidizers in it that make it decompose in the fuel > tank if you don't empty your tank every month or two. Very long shelf life > on the avgas, but it's also not very eager to evaporate, so it doesn't make > good winter fuel. > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] STD's (Super Turbo Diesels; Was: Do I want a 126 again?)
Heck, why don't you parallel a teeny one and a big one and work out some switchover arrangements? ;) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 18:06, Mitch Haley wrote: > John Reames wrote: >> I thought the m pumps jumped from 7mm to 10mm elements, while the me had >> inbetween sizes... But I could be wrong > > Weren't our pumps 5mm, or maybe the 606 pumps are 5.5? > I think the elements I was talking to Antti Arula about were 7mm, and he'd > sell them to me for 50 euros each plus shipping a few years ago, and there > was some common tractor or truck that took 8mm, but Myna considered 8mm to be > excessive. > If they can get 500hp out of 6 cylinders with 7mm, I guess you don't need 8mm. > At the time, I'd gotten my hands on a 300CDI turbo which was only good for > about 250hp worth of airflow, and was thinking I could manage 250hp out of a > 602 with just some rack travel adjustments and the 7mm elements. I don't want > a car with a turbo inlet the size of a soup can and massive turbo lag, I want > one with a VNT or VGT that spools up faster than the stock fixed nozzle turbo. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Actually G05 at the Car Quest 1/2 mile from my house in the little backwater burg of Winchendon (pop 5000) is cheaper than storebrand green stuff at Autozone or Advance in the "big city" of Gardner (pop 20,000) 5 miles away. Strange but true. The Car Quest brand 15w40 is cheaper by the gallon than ANY oil at the big FLAPs too and only marginally more expensive than the cheapest Wal-Mart has. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:38:15 -0400 From: John Reames To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts Message-ID: <94e8cba2-05fe-4a11-b9a0-ead3c7995...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On an aluminum body pump, that's a shooting offense) (then hang them for stinking) Uncalibrated adulteration to those things is bad mojo/juju/karma. (and it can get expensive too!) The problem is not as likely to be fuel volume... But diddling the volume could cover the problem of unbalanced injectors... But then I hear that a can of coke will hide pitting of a windshield... And that bar's leak is the best thing for a weeping cooling system, so you should put it in with the GREEN stuff... And save money since you are still spending less than the proper stuff costs.. (it will be just fine (for 6-12 months anyhow)) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 TDT
Back in the 80's when DE Davis was leader of C&D his company car was a new top of the line 300 Wagon. Then they started modifying it. Lowered it with new mag wheels & tires, great stereo system and some other mods including a paint job. It really came out great looking - IIRC the trim line was the dividing line between a black lower side and light brown upper and a white roof. But my memory is pretty vague. LarryT 91 300D Import - Export Putting Buyers & Sellers Together -- From: "E M" Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:40 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: [MBZ] 300 TDT Hi Guys, Just returned home. While out, I saw the very best 300 TDT that I've seen in years. Two of my very most favourite cars, are a grey mercedes wagon, and an old porsche 911. I'm only sorry I didn't have my camera with me. The car today was dark grey, with black leather interior. As Roger would say, this is no such thing as perfect, but they car as it stood, could easily be driven into a car show, with no apologizes. Leather was fade, rip, and crease free, paint was redone I'm sure, without a ripple or hint of over spray. If the chrome wasn't redone, it would win the survivors class for sure! I couldn't see a mark or pit on it anywhere. All exterior rubber was perfectly formed, no oxidization or anything. A really really lovely car. I even stuck around to wait for the owner to return, to compliment him on the car. As it's about 100F here today, that pretty much tells the impression the car left on me. Seeing it reaffirmed what I felt for many years. If I could only have 2 cars, it would be that guys wagon, and my old 911. I could live quite happily never having another car. Great to see an old car, that obviously has such love and attention spent on it. Ed 300E 911SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
It wasn't that bad, the only holes were the ones from the leaking rear windshield (7 years!) in trunk. The structural integrity is fine, its just really ugly... -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:30:33 -0700 From: "Kevin Kraly" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Message-ID: <9d5afb93161a41e09a3e981340e73...@kdogpc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Sounds like a death trap! It's a good thing that the engine went before the structural integrity was compromised! He will have plenty of parts to donate to the next one, recycling! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
How closely are the pop pressures matched? Iirc spec is 3 bars, but the boxes ones were only at 5 bars. Dr.MB may have mentioned something about seeing a slight benefit by matching to within 1bar... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 17:44, Euan wrote: > Injectors have been rebuilt. Pump has never been touched, Rolf. Down here in > the Colonies, that's bigger money than the value of the wagon. > > Euan > > >> I would say the pump should be put on a bench and injectors rebuilt. >> >> Euan, also there should be bushings on the exhaust->trans mount. >> >> -Rolf >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] STD's (Super Turbo Diesels; Was: Do I want a 126 again?)
John Reames wrote: I thought the m pumps jumped from 7mm to 10mm elements, while the me had inbetween sizes... But I could be wrong Weren't our pumps 5mm, or maybe the 606 pumps are 5.5? I think the elements I was talking to Antti Arula about were 7mm, and he'd sell them to me for 50 euros each plus shipping a few years ago, and there was some common tractor or truck that took 8mm, but Myna considered 8mm to be excessive. If they can get 500hp out of 6 cylinders with 7mm, I guess you don't need 8mm. At the time, I'd gotten my hands on a 300CDI turbo which was only good for about 250hp worth of airflow, and was thinking I could manage 250hp out of a 602 with just some rack travel adjustments and the 7mm elements. I don't want a car with a turbo inlet the size of a soup can and massive turbo lag, I want one with a VNT or VGT that spools up faster than the stock fixed nozzle turbo. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Well I'd rather not think about it as I have driven Model T's-of course just at car shows. I can't handle time travel. Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 5:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Dwight wrote: > There were cars from the teens in there-crime against humanity. Back to the future? The teens are still 3 years from now. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How much trans fluid?
Don't know amount but don't let him over fill-remember John' Peterson's tranny got toasted by Indy who forgot to drain the TC but then put the full 7 qts in. Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Our Clams are Fresh and Our Cars are Vintage. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 5:26 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] How much trans fluid? So when my Red 190D goes in for the punch list I'm going to have the transmission serviced. My Indy will put in M1 if I bring it, how much do I need? '84 190D auto trans. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Injectors have been rebuilt. Pump has never been touched, Rolf. Down here in the Colonies, that's bigger money than the value of the wagon. Euan I would say the pump should be put on a bench and injectors rebuilt. Euan, also there should be bushings on the exhaust->trans mount. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Dwight wrote: > There were cars from the teens in there-crime against humanity. Back to the future? The teens are still 3 years from now. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Cheers Dieselhead They are Nylock nuts. Sounds as though I should back them off quite a bit. Thanks indeed Euan My memory is fuzzy on this, but i recall the struts have Nylock nuts. They should compress the rubber to some extent, but should not be run to the end of the threads. I am sure there is a spec, but i'd guess 3-4 turns after snug would be enough. Too tight, and they will transmit vibration. Unless you know the motor mounts and trans mount are new, they are probably the problem. It might be just one, but it is beast to replace all at once. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] STD's (Super Turbo Diesels; Was: Do I want a 126 again?)
I thought the m pumps jumped from 7mm to 10mm elements, while the me had inbetween sizes... But I could be wrong -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 16:26, Mitch Haley wrote: > John Reames wrote: >> It's my understanding that some of those use a 6cyl pump of the variety used > > in the 617's instead of the normal 60x due to the sixes of elements that > > are available... > > I thought the M-pump was euro style and preferred for the hot rods. > IIRC, USA 616/617 had the MW pump, euro 616-617 had the M-pump, and all > 601/602/603 had the M-pump. Myna-Diesel won't work on our 617 pumps, if you > want one of their pumps on a 617 you have to buy a euro pump from them and > have it built. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
On an aluminum body pump, that's a shooting offense) (then hang them for stinking) Uncalibrated adulteration to those things is bad mojo/juju/karma. (and it can get expensive too!) The problem is not as likely to be fuel volume... But diddling the volume could cover the problem of unbalanced injectors... But then I hear that a can of coke will hide pitting of a windshield... And that bar's leak is the best thing for a weeping cooling system, so you should put it in with the GREEN stuff... And save money since you are still spending less than the proper stuff costs.. (it will be just fine (for 6-12 months anyhow)) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 23, 2010, at 15:41, Mitch Haley wrote: > Craig McCluskey wrote: > >> How is it done, Mitch? > > By loosening the injection line at the DV and turning the locknuts/delivery > valve. Somebody on these lists mentioned seeing the owner of a used car lot > tweaking the DVs and making the engine idle very smoothly. I just did some > reading on the net and now I'm thinking that you may change more than just > idle fuel balance by doing that, and fuel balance should be regulated at the > lever arms inside the pump, on a service bench. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Dwight. That's just good old instant gratification joined with ignorance, save for the future? That's not the American Way! Boy! When did I get so cynical? Fred Moir Lynn MA On 7/23/2010 5:20 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Fred- That's my idea of the American dream, too. A buddy& I once tried to buy a junkyard's contents from an old man-offered him crusher price plus 20% and 20 year lease on land-his kids called mobile crusher& cleaned up back 40. There were cars from the teens in there-crime against humanity. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)
DBV wrote: > mao, don't you ever change, dude Too expensive. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Herr Ritter
RLE wrote: > Roger who? I haven't posted anything for years, by order of His Eminence. > He has no idea I am subscribed and there is no way to find out. Memory is long - you know that. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Sounds like a death trap! It's a good thing that the engine went before the structural integrity was compromised! He will have plenty of parts to donate to the next one, recycling! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How much trans fluid?
So when my Red 190D goes in for the punch list I'm going to have the transmission serviced. My Indy will put in M1 if I bring it, how much do I need? '84 190D auto trans. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Fred- That's my idea of the American dream, too. A buddy & I once tired to buy a junkyard contents from an old man-offered him crusher price plus 20% and 20 year lease on land-his kids called mobile crusher & cleaned up back 40. There were cars from the teens in there-crime against humanity. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Curt, et al. I still dream of a back 40 and a huge barn. When does a dream become a fantasy? Dream on! Fred Moir Lynn MA On 7/23/2010 11:01 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I've only got a 1/4 acre. > > I think Fred still has more cars than me, on a smaller lot no less. > > -Curt > > Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:32:22 -0400 > From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. > > > Time to begin the Okie Acres Northeast? > > -Max > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] STD's (Super Turbo Diesels; Was: Do I want a 126 again?)
John Reames wrote: It's my understanding that some of those use a 6cyl pump of the variety used > in the 617's instead of the normal 60x due to the sixes of elements that are available... I thought the M-pump was euro style and preferred for the hot rods. IIRC, USA 616/617 had the MW pump, euro 616-617 had the M-pump, and all 601/602/603 had the M-pump. Myna-Diesel won't work on our 617 pumps, if you want one of their pumps on a 617 you have to buy a euro pump from them and have it built. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL
That was the plan. Just was not sure that would solve the problem. A bit slow aren't I? Red light on for a year or more. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL IIRC, you bleed the front brakes, whether they need it or not. This might center the pressure switch again. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > So how does one get the thing to re-set? I have been driving around with > the red light on for a year or more since > I bled the rear brakes. I assume that it was activated either because the > fluid got low while we were pumping it > through, or the diffference in pressure, front to rear, was triggered by > the bleed screw being opened. > > This is on my 76 115 300D of course. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Barry Stark > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:56 AM > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Cc: fpip...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL > > > Dear mystery lister - > It seems that you may have a brake fluid leak around the brake switch on > top > of the brake fluid reservoir. If that is so, you generally just have to > replace the little rubber cover on the switch. Most of the later systems > the > switch is not even replaceable. > > Barry > > > > > > I'm about to replace defective brake pressure switch on the brake > > > reservoir. > > > > > > Any need to be concerned about excessive brake fluid leakage? > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 42-035.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 423719 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100721/c93fb839/attachment.pdf > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Craig McCluskey wrote: How is it done, Mitch? By loosening the injection line at the DV and turning the locknuts/delivery valve. Somebody on these lists mentioned seeing the owner of a used car lot tweaking the DVs and making the engine idle very smoothly. I just did some reading on the net and now I'm thinking that you may change more than just idle fuel balance by doing that, and fuel balance should be regulated at the lever arms inside the pump, on a service bench. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another interesting note
I keep noticing interesting things about my "new" '84 190D. Today I realized its got a group 49 battery. My '85 didn't. When I replaced the old battery I got a group 49 but it wouldn't fit in the battery box without removing (and subsequently losing) the hold down. I'd always intended to make a new hold down but never got to it. On this car I planned to make the new hold down and transfer in the relatively new Group 49 from the '85 until I realized there was no need. This is also the only MB I've ever seen that has the glowplug light to the LEFT of the steering wheel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:16:12 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > Euan wrote: > > Rolf > > > > Yes, this is idle vibration. Tail-pipe is a blur unless I crank the > > idle-speed nob up to full. > > Has somebody who knows what he's doing tried to balance the delivery > valves at idle? A 617 can be very smooth when all five cylinders put > out exactly the same power. > A really good mechanic can do it in a couple of minutes by ear. (no, > not me) How is it done, Mitch? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '94 E420 [was: Re: 350SDL power steering R/R & fluid]
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:11:03 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > How about ATF in a '94 E420's steering pump? > > > I never had to put any in that car. Well, shortly after you dropped it off, it started leaking, which is why I have been working off and on (mostly off, lately) on changing the power steering pump. It's going back together now; I have the new pump in and need to complete bolting it in and connecting the hoses. It also has a gasoline leak somewhere. I think it's under the passenger compartment on the driver's side. With a furnace in the garage and the garage connected to the house, I'm not about to start it until I can roll it outside. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
Van Knutson wrote: speaking of which, once I awaken my sleeping beauty, what should I do about the leaded gas issue? additives etc? Well, if it weren't for tax considerations, you could run 100 octane low lead (about twice as much lead as regular gas had when it went off the market about 20 years ago) aviation fuel. The good news is that 100LL doesn't have any of the oxidizers in it that make it decompose in the fuel tank if you don't empty your tank every month or two. Very long shelf life on the avgas, but it's also not very eager to evaporate, so it doesn't make good winter fuel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D adventure continues
Took the Red 190D for inspection today. He pulled it in an immediately said "Do the lights suck at night?" I said "I dunno, I've never driven it at night" to which he replied "They're pointed right at the ground" and proceeded to adjust them for me, for free... Then we noticed the pool of ATF under the car. Whoops, didn't see that before. It makes a small pool under the nose and another under the pan, could that be just a bad cooler line? I've got a gasket and filter for a trans service I was planning on doing in a week or two. He wouldn't go any further at that point, I feel bad for dirtying his nice clean inspection bay... Fortunately I'm off to So-Cal next week so my Indy can have a week to get things right. If he can't (or if he isn't around, he hasn't returned my call yet) I may have to buy Dwights 240D pronto! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
Missing on both cars, which leaves the bright red tow hook out for all to see on the new red beast. If you find a cache of those I want one, I also need a shifter surround that will stay in place. Never had one of those in a 190D. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:20:27 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: <4c49cf5b.9040...@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt. Do you have the tow hook hole cover for the front valence? Or is yours missing too? I'll look over my current project for part to buy from you. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta on! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Eat your heart out, Glenfiddich
Or whatever the brand is... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128681839 I would be surprised if the stuff was frozen. Since there are four more crates, someone needs to go back and get them Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
Curt. Do you have the tow hook hole cover for the front valence? Or is yours missing too? I'll look over my current project for part to buy from you. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta on! On 7/23/2010 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Spare what? Tires? I've got 4 wheels with poor tires that can go, both visors, one is very good, the other needs gluing around where the mirror mount is. Light tan interior in this car. Also: Passenger side exterior mirror. Both power seat switches, both front power seats which work (although they're a bit loud, could use lube) the driver's side seat has a replacement bottom thats only about 5 years old although the cover is pretty tatty, I have another better cover. Passenger's cover is pretty good. Rear seat cover is good. First aid kit. Decent front and rear speakers (small, 3"? whatever the 201 came with, the rears are Pioneer replacements I think.). 3 good door panels, one (driver's) is fair with an elbow dent, stupid cardboard door panels. Carpets all around are decent, a couple cigarette burns from the PO. Replacement PS pump I got from Potomac German ~4 years ago, no leaks. Anything else I may have forgotten just ask. Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:28:35 -0400 From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: <1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" To either side works well - the spring loaded detents point to either side. Are both of your spare's spoken for? How about the visors? Color? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:06 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? The inside one... Yank real hard on the part that mounts to the car? Which direction? Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Curt, et al. I still dream of a back 40 and a huge barn. When does a dream become a fantasy? Dream on! Fred Moir Lynn MA On 7/23/2010 11:01 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I've only got a 1/4 acre. I think Fred still has more cars than me, on a smaller lot no less. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:32:22 -0400 From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Time to begin the Okie Acres Northeast? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SDL power steering R/R & fluid
'Replaced PS pump on the 350SDL yesterday morning. 'Bout 30 minutes of actually working on it (loosen belt, bolt turning, etc.); another hour to hour and a half sitting back on walker to rest back, wiping perspiration, going in house to cool off, scrounging another washer after dropping/losing one, etc. Started 'bout 7:30 AM while a little cooler. Refilled with PS fluid. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" To: Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 350SDL power steering R/R & fluid On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:02:57 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: I have always used ATF and have not seen any problems. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Here's one response from Marshall that covers it pretty well: Mercedes started shipping cars with their own PS fluid in 1988, but the pumps were identical to those that were filled with ATF at the factory and Mercedes had NOT required that the fluid be changed even as late as 1995 (last time I contacted them about any potential problem using ATF). How about ATF in a '94 E420's steering pump? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d
Here goes "bulletproof," again. Likely the typical (for 140's) double-pane "insulated" glass. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rolf Martin-Hoster" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d 7990 no rust. Claims to be a dignitary model with bullet proof glass -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 92-95 was the 140 diesel in the US, all were rod benders, if engine replaced with a factory motor, should be fine. All can have wiring harness problems, all can have evap problems. How much do they want for it? Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote: Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro and possibly older than 95? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d
'94/'95, etc., MB badged the 350's as 300's to try to mask (hide) their true "nature" from potential buyers - trying to sell 350's on the better rep of the 300's. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rolf Martin-Hoster" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d Guy says its a 300SD with a 350. I thought these were 126s but its clearly a 140 in the pics. Waiting for VIN tomorrow. I think this will have som VERY interesting options. (You think the bullet proof glass was optional from MB or added after? :D ) -Rolf Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote: Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro and possibly older than 95? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d
'Don't know if even I would tackle a 140 evapectomy - well, maybe in a well-cooled (or heated as necessary) garage with appropriate "napping" bed nearby, nobody "bugging" me, etc., set my own pace, etc. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "John Freer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d Be sure that the wiring harness and evaporator has been replaced...big bucks more than what the car is worth! John On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Rolf Martin-Hoster writes: Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro and possibly older than 95? Marshall always said the factory replacement engines were good. If you can verify that it's a factory replacement not a rebuild by Joe's Garage, it should be good. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
I've only got a 1/4 acre. I think Fred still has more cars than me, on a smaller lot no less. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:32:22 -0400 From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Message-ID: <1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Time to begin the Okie Acres Northeast? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:30 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. The thought has crossed my mind. If the rest of the car weren't such a disaster. I may keep the trans for a later project... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
Spare what? Tires? I've got 4 wheels with poor tires that can go, both visors, one is very good, the other needs gluing around where the mirror mount is. Light tan interior in this car. Also: Passenger side exterior mirror. Both power seat switches, both front power seats which work (although they're a bit loud, could use lube) the driver's side seat has a replacement bottom thats only about 5 years old although the cover is pretty tatty, I have another better cover. Passenger's cover is pretty good. Rear seat cover is good. First aid kit. Decent front and rear speakers (small, 3"? whatever the 201 came with, the rears are Pioneer replacements I think.). 3 good door panels, one (driver's) is fair with an elbow dent, stupid cardboard door panels. Carpets all around are decent, a couple cigarette burns from the PO. Replacement PS pump I got from Potomac German ~4 years ago, no leaks. Anything else I may have forgotten just ask. Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:28:35 -0400 From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: <1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To either side works well - the spring loaded detents point to either side. Are both of your spare's spoken for? How about the visors? Color? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:06 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? The inside one... Yank real hard on the part that mounts to the car? Which direction? Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL
"Mitch Haley" m...@voyager.net With nice big 1974 bumpers. (but it predates catalytic converters, right?) http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1855418235.html * I have a 74 450SL (in storage x 10 yrs+) and it is pre cat, pre unleaded. I am quite sure the first cat year was 75.. hp in 450's dropped like a rock from 225 to 165 in 75 & 76... It has a great big straight pass filler nozzle. speaking of which, once I awaken my sleeping beauty, what should I do about the leaded gas issue? additives etc? DBV, real men burn lead information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)
From: "Mountain Man" maontin@gmail.com -Max wrote: > A classmate of my mother's died as part of the crew that burned up in O2 > atmosphere on the launch pad. My mother is quite sure his death and > funeral were real. Yes. But a long way from moon. mao *** mao, don't you ever change, dude DBV, worth the price of admission by himself information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
pull it toward you. Curt Raymond wrote: The inside one... Yank real hard on the part that mounts to the car? Which direction? Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:15:48 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed which one, the inside or outside? If inside, you just crab the holder part and yank it real hard. Curt Raymond wrote: Hey gang, How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my 240D... Thanks -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3021 - Release Date: 07/22/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
No, I have about 5 or 6 of those I need to get rid of. Mitch Haley wrote: Fmiser wrote: Ooh - How about dropping a turbo engine in there - huh? It is a manual transmission, wasn't it? There was a really cheap '83 or '85 turbo on Craigslist here a couple of weeks ago for something like $800, but it's long gone now. I told Curt to buy it, and he said 'I hate you'. Can't find anything like that now. But I did find a rusty $500 W116 about 15 miles away. I think I'll look at it this weekend and see if it wants to donate an interior to my 300SD. Anybody need a 1980 450 drivetrain? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3021 - Release Date: 07/22/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
seems like a lot of work to me. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Andrew's got your engine, you just need to pick up that cheap TD, drag it to WDC, do the swap, drag your new engine home, and then build your beast. -Max -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
and a new body, I think his is pretty eat up with rust. Fmiser wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months. Apparently not rated for hot oil Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie will donate his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car. All you need is an engine - right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3021 - Release Date: 07/22/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SDL power steering R/R & fluid
I never had to put any in that car. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:02:57 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: I have always used ATF and have not seen any problems. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Here's one response from Marshall that covers it pretty well: Mercedes started shipping cars with their own PS fluid in 1988, but the pumps were identical to those that were filled with ATF at the factory and Mercedes had NOT required that the fluid be changed even as late as 1995 (last time I contacted them about any potential problem using ATF). How about ATF in a '94 E420's steering pump? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3021 - Release Date: 07/22/10 01:36:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d
They all claim to have bullet proof glass. Got any pics? Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote: 7990 no rust. Claims to be a dignitary model with bullet proof glass -Rolf -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] where to buy R12
Quotes page. I was surprised to see it's not there already. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > if its cheap I am interested. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
I always yank straight back. It sometimes helps to do a little prying with a small screwdriver to help get the spring pins loosened up a bit. Last one I did was 85 380SL a few months back. Normal yanks didn't unseat it. After a little prying with a screwdriver, it popped off with a normal yank. The screwdriver marks were visible on the black painted potmetal, so I gave it a spray with flat black rattle can, and it was invisible again. The inside one... Yank real hard on the part that mounts to the car? Which direction? Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:15:48 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed which one, the inside or outside? If inside, you just crab the holder part and yank it real hard. Curt Raymond wrote: Hey gang, How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my 240D... Thanks -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] where to buy R12
We can talk, let me find out if I need r12 or r134 with myh new car first :D -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: geez, thats too much Rolf wrote: Lets see if my next car needs it an we'll talk. I think I paid $30 a can shipped. -Rolf On 07/21/2010 08:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: if its cheap I am interested. Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote: I have 2? 3? cans I will sell. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Im going to keep my eye out for reasonably priced R12 to stockpile. Where is the best place to look besides ebay. Is there anywhere online that sells cylinders or even cans at a reasonable price? I had heard R12 has actually been going down in price. I dont know if that is true or not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3020 - Release Date: 07/21/10 13:36:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
I would say the pump should be put on a bench and injectors rebuilt. Euan, also there should be bushings on the exhaust->trans mount. -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Euan wrote: Rolf Yes, this is idle vibration. Tail-pipe is a blur unless I crank the idle-speed nob up to full. Has somebody who knows what he's doing tried to balance the delivery valves at idle? A 617 can be very smooth when all five cylinders put out exactly the same power. A really good mechanic can do it in a couple of minutes by ear. (no, not me) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Curt Raymond wrote: Its cheaper to buy a nicer car... I bought this car to learn how to work on cars. I did all the brakes, So, now you can learn how to convert a 300D to stick shift and put new 240D brakes on it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Time to begin the Okie Acres Northeast? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:30 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. The thought has crossed my mind. If the rest of the car weren't such a disaster. I may keep the trans for a later project... Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:51:52 -0500 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Message-ID: <2010075152.8edacc93.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Curt Raymond wrote: > The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months. > Apparently not rated for hot oil > > Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie will donate > his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car. Ooh - How about dropping a turbo engine in there - huh? It is a manual transmission, wasn't it? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
The thought has crossed my mind. If the rest of the car weren't such a disaster. I may keep the trans for a later project... Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:51:52 -0500 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Message-ID: <2010075152.8edacc93.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Curt Raymond wrote: > The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months. > Apparently not rated for hot oil > > Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie > will donate his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car. Ooh - How about dropping a turbo engine in there - huh? It is a manual transmission, wasn't it? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
An OM602 turbo would be ideal! OM602 turbo 5 speed would be better DOn't you already own an OM601 or OM602? Either could be made to fit. > Curt Raymond wrote: The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months. Apparently not rated for hot oil Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie will donate his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car. Ooh - How about dropping a turbo engine in there - huh? It is a manual transmission, wasn't it? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Well yeah but this was a $400 car remember... It also needs a paint job, major rust repair, rear suspension work, front suspension work, one window doesn't work, AC doesn't work, etc etc etc... Its cheaper to buy a nicer car... I bought this car to learn how to work on cars. I did all the brakes, the exhaust, the water pump (should remember to get that back), rust repair, the antenna, replaced and repainted the hood, re-did the dash pod (with LED lighting), radiator hoses, drag link (which I should also keep), idler arm, and other stuff I can't even recall right now. Its been a great classroom. -Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:50:49 -0500 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Message-ID: <2010075049.9cd66f30.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Curt Raymond wrote: > The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months. > Apparently not rated for hot oil > > Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie > will donate his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car. All you need is an engine - right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
To either side works well - the spring loaded detents point to either side. Are both of your spare's spoken for? How about the visors? Color? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:06 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? The inside one... Yank real hard on the part that mounts to the car? Which direction? Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:15:48 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed which one, the inside or outside? If inside, you just crab the holder part and yank it real hard. Curt Raymond wrote: > Hey gang, > > How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my 240D... > > Thanks > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 201 rearview mirror?
Yank real hard on the part that mounts to the car? Which direction? Whichever way works. There's two spring-loaded 'bullet' points in the mirror base that detent into the window frame. It's supposed to pop loose if your head hits it rather than puncture your skull. Sometimes they get a bit stiff and dry and don't want to come out. I snapped off the one on my 560 SL by yanking too hard, it needed a bit of gentle prying with a screwdriver to get it out. I cleaned and lubed the spring and detents, peeled back the rubber, drilled a center hole in the pot metal and JB-Welded a screw spine into the break to hold it back together. I now make a note to be real careful with _that_ one, and to not go ape on one just because the correct procedure is to yank. Yank, yes, but no harder than is commensurate with a pot-metal casting! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
Ummm, maybe? I *think* so but don't know for sure. -Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:39:04 -0400 From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: <001101cb29ff$74251e20$5c6f5a...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Do you have to take off that plastic header piece that is on top of headliner? ? The mirror on my 240D is a little loose and I looked into taking it off to tighten the swivel ball. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:12 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Hey gang, How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my 240D... Thanks -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?
The inside one... Yank real hard on the part that mounts to the car? Which direction? Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:15:48 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed which one, the inside or outside? If inside, you just crab the holder part and yank it real hard. Curt Raymond wrote: > Hey gang, > > How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my 240D... > > Thanks > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 450SL
With nice big 1974 bumpers. (but it predates catalytic converters, right?) http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1855418235.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] where to buy R12
Tim C wrote: Friend of mine has family in Mexico so he goes every year or two. Can you bring it across the border? (Could you even carry it on an airplane?) Compressed gas doesn't belong on airplanes, but they might allow you an aerosol can of hair spray. No CO2 cartridges or freon canisters if they know what you have. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] where to buy R12
Friend of mine has family in Mexico so he goes every year or two. Can you bring it across the border? (Could you even carry it on an airplane?) Or is FedEx the way to go? Trying to stay legal and all if I ever get an R12 vehicle. Thanks, -Tim On Jul 18, 2010 10:30 PM, "Gerry Van Zandt" wrote: > Over the past 5-7 years, R12 has come down in price quite a bit. This is because more and more R12 cars are off the road and/or have been converted to R-134a, which has lessened the demand for R12. It is certainly still available. Perhaps you could have an indy shop get you a supply. You have to be certified to handle it, as you probably know, but this can be done on-line for a nominal fee. > > R12 is still made in Mexico and there are large stockpiles of it here in the US, as well as reclaimed R12. I would think that any refrigeration or automotive supply business (or perhaps an indy mechanic shop) would sell it to you if you had proof of certification. If you had a friend in Mexico, you could get cans of itthey are available there in auto parts stores just like 134a is here in the States!! > > Cheers, > Gerry > > > > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Im going to keep my eye out for reasonably priced R12 to stockpile. Where is the best place to look besides ebay. Is there anywhere online that sells cylinders or even cans at a reasonable price? I had heard R12 has actually been going down in price. I dont know if that is true or not. >> >> -- >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK >> 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> Daveslist mailing list >> davesl...@okiebenz.com >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/daveslist_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts
Euan wrote: Rolf Yes, this is idle vibration. Tail-pipe is a blur unless I crank the idle-speed nob up to full. Has somebody who knows what he's doing tried to balance the delivery valves at idle? A 617 can be very smooth when all five cylinders put out exactly the same power. A really good mechanic can do it in a couple of minutes by ear. (no, not me) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Fmiser wrote: Ooh - How about dropping a turbo engine in there - huh? It is a manual transmission, wasn't it? There was a really cheap '83 or '85 turbo on Craigslist here a couple of weeks ago for something like $800, but it's long gone now. I told Curt to buy it, and he said 'I hate you'. Can't find anything like that now. But I did find a rusty $500 W116 about 15 miles away. I think I'll look at it this weekend and see if it wants to donate an interior to my 300SD. Anybody need a 1980 450 drivetrain? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d
Yes-all w140's were owned by dignitaries or diplomats because of the bullet proof glass. (My brother has one but has not yet tracked down the Elbonian ambassador who owned it) Dwight Star Motors and Shellfish Co. "Shucking but no Jiving" Dwight Giles, Jr Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf Martin-Hoster Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d 7990 no rust. Claims to be a dignitary model with bullet proof glass -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
Andrew's got your engine, you just need to pick up that cheap TD, drag it to WDC, do the swap, drag your new engine home, and then build your beast. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. > Curt Raymond wrote: > The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months. > Apparently not rated for hot oil > > Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie will donate > his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car. Ooh - How about dropping a turbo engine in there - huh? It is a manual transmission, wasn't it? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
The OilBurner is Dead! LONG Live the OilBurner! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:45 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim. Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on Hammie. As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared, oil on the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had made it sound better than it is. The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost, split right in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last weekend in my abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement oil cooler has arrived, its on my kitchen table... Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt right around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but nothing else. I didn't want to do more and get greasy with the clothes I have on. He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great highway in the sky. On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off to the registry. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?
Yes, and I'm sure there are several other jobs easier done with the engine out, and tranny as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again? Replace the glow plugs when its out that way if you need a head job, you don't waste coolant etc. (yes, 606 glowplug replacement is a job that sucks) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:30, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" wrote: > That's been done several times, owner's quite pleased with results. > What really makes this a nice deal is that 210 cars are falling in > price but the engines are sound. > > Now I'm thinking that replacing my NA 606 with a turbo 606 in lighter > body of a 124 using 603 turbo pump... > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:46 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again? > > Hmmm > What would happen if you fitted the IP from a 603.97 to a 606.96?? > > I dunno where you would stuff the intercooler though... > > -- > John W Reames > jwrea...@comcast.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 22:25, OK Don wrote: > >> The price is right for a very clean car, according to KBB, but $1500 >> too high according to Edmunds. Might offer to spilt the difference > with him. >> Anyone want a '91 300E? >> >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Rich Thomas < >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >>> That looks like a nice car. there was one last summer at the mech's >>> that needed a head gasket, he wanted $800. Car was in beautiful >>> shape otherwise, low miles. >>> >>> --R >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> Panic! (the national past time). >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?
Motor mounts. The OM606 was installed in 124 bodies, but was it ever installed in a C class? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again? How about putting it in a c class body? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:30, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" wrote: > That's been done several times, owner's quite pleased with results. > What really makes this a nice deal is that 210 cars are falling in > price but the engines are sound. > > Now I'm thinking that replacing my NA 606 with a turbo 606 in lighter > body of a 124 using 603 turbo pump... > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:46 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again? > > Hmmm > What would happen if you fitted the IP from a 603.97 to a 606.96?? > > I dunno where you would stuff the intercooler though... > > -- > John W Reames > jwrea...@comcast.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 22:25, OK Don wrote: > >> The price is right for a very clean car, according to KBB, but $1500 >> too high according to Edmunds. Might offer to spilt the difference > with him. >> Anyone want a '91 300E? >> >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Rich Thomas < >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >>> That looks like a nice car. there was one last summer at the mech's >>> that needed a head gasket, he wanted $800. Car was in beautiful >>> shape otherwise, low miles. >>> >>> --R >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> Panic! (the national past time). >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
