Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-23 Thread Fmiser
 E M wrote:

 I think this one goes back a wee bit more than 10 years.  I'm
 sure it could be made to work as well as the current setup in
 cars, especially with how quickly electronic driver aids are
 being developed and integrated into current packages.

I'm still trying to figure out where the gear shift is.  Maybe
over by the door?

--   Philip, who thinks 9 speeds is just barely enough.

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 123 engine into a w126 300SDL - will it fly?

2011-04-23 Thread John Reames
You would want to try to get one that does not use a tach amp

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On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:51, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 
 Is there any major difference in oil pan between the 617.951 and 617.952?
 
 I'm thinking that unless you already had a surplus 300D engine, it'd be 
 easier to buy a wrecked or rusted 300SD for a drivetrain donor.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Fmiser wrote:


I'm still trying to figure out where the gear shift is.  Maybe
over by the door?


Dashboard, front and center. Four big buttons marked N, P, D, and R.

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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-23 Thread Dieselhead

Pushbutton,  just like a '57  plymie

But this one is missing the 18 fins


Fmiser wrote:


I'm still trying to figure out where the gear shift is.  Maybe
over by the door?


Dashboard, front and center. Four big buttons marked N, P, D, and R.

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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-23 Thread E M
They retract below 60 mph.

Ed
300E

On 23 April 2011 08:59, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pushbutton,  just like a '57  plymie

 But this one is missing the 18 fins

  Fmiser wrote:

  I'm still trying to figure out where the gear shift is.  Maybe
 over by the door?


 Dashboard, front and center. Four big buttons marked N, P, D, and R.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cut away auto box operating

2011-04-23 Thread Peter Frederick
I would check the transmission mount, center bearing and carrier, and  
differential mounts (and rear subframe mounts if any) first.  The  
torque converter is not locked up on take off.


Peter
On Apr 21, 2011, at 9:43 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Interesting video of a Toyota 4 speed tranny doing it's thing, the  
lights in the back show the gear.

http://wn.com/Toyota_A_transmission
The reason I came across that is that Fays sister recently bought  
an 85 cressida (which looks a lot like a 123 with trailing arm  
suspension and half shafts) with a shudder/vibration on take off  
and under load, I am guessing torque converter clutch shudder,  
don't think it has a LSD, which can also shudder under load.


Hendrik
who marked this OT because it's not ab MB tranny

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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3086/Ferrari-166-MM-Touring-Barchetta-Speciale.html 


Here's a song, set in the future when cars are banned...

Rush Red Barchetta Lyrics

My uncle has a country place
That no one knows about.
He says it used to be a farm,
Before the Motor Law.
And on Sundays I elude the Eyes,
And hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire,
Where my white-haired uncle waits.

Jump to the ground
As the Turbo slows to cross the Borderline.
Run like the wind,
As excitement shivers up and down my spine.
Down in his barn,
My uncle preserved for me an old machine,
For fifty-odd years.
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream.

I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car.
A brilliant red Barchetta
From a better, vanished time.
I fire up the willing engine,
Responding with a roar.
Tires spitting gravel,
I commit my weekly crime...

Wind-
In my hair-
Shifting and drifting-
Mechanical music-
Adrenalin surge...

Well-weathered leather,
Hot metal and oil,
The scented country air.
Sunlight on chrome,
The blur of the landscape,
Every nerve aware.

Suddenly ahead of me,
Across the mountainside,
A gleaming alloy air-car
Shoots towards me, two lanes wide.
I spin around with shrieking tires,
To run the deadly race,
Go screaming through the valley
As another joins the chase.

Drive like the wind,
Straining the limits of machine and man.
Laughing out loud
With fear and hope, I've got a desperate plan.
At the one-lane bridge
I leave the giants stranded at the riverside.
Race back to the farm, to dream with my uncle at the fireside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U

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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond
Minus the maintenance of tensioning the belts.

Serpentine belts are easier to replace too. 1 wrench required to move the 
tensioner out of the way.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:34:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt
Message-ID: 871568.63215...@web113210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

One good reason to keep driving the oldies.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 22, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

The same as if all the belts failed on your w123.

-Rolf


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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond
Buttons on the dash, everything old is new again.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 01:19:51 -0500
From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

 E M wrote:

 I think this one goes back a wee bit more than 10 years.  I'm
 sure it could be made to work as well as the current setup in
 cars, especially with how quickly electronic driver aids are
 being developed and integrated into current packages.

I'm still trying to figure out where the gear shift is.  Maybe
over by the door?

--   Philip, who thinks 9 speeds is just barely enough.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread Allan Streib
One of my favorites

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:

 Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3086/Ferrari-166-MM-Touring-Barchetta-Speciale.html
  

 Here's a song, set in the future when cars are banned...

 Rush Red Barchetta Lyrics

 My uncle has a country place
 That no one knows about.
 He says it used to be a farm,
 Before the Motor Law.
 And on Sundays I elude the Eyes,
 And hop the Turbine Freight
 To far outside the Wire,
 Where my white-haired uncle waits.

 Jump to the ground
 As the Turbo slows to cross the Borderline.
 Run like the wind,
 As excitement shivers up and down my spine.
 Down in his barn,
 My uncle preserved for me an old machine,
 For fifty-odd years.
 To keep it as new has been his dearest dream.

 I strip away the old debris
 That hides a shining car.
 A brilliant red Barchetta
 From a better, vanished time.
 I fire up the willing engine,
 Responding with a roar.
 Tires spitting gravel,
 I commit my weekly crime...

 Wind-
 In my hair-
 Shifting and drifting-
 Mechanical music-
 Adrenalin surge...

 Well-weathered leather,
 Hot metal and oil,
 The scented country air.
 Sunlight on chrome,
 The blur of the landscape,
 Every nerve aware.

 Suddenly ahead of me,
 Across the mountainside,
 A gleaming alloy air-car
 Shoots towards me, two lanes wide.
 I spin around with shrieking tires,
 To run the deadly race,
 Go screaming through the valley
 As another joins the chase.

 Drive like the wind,
 Straining the limits of machine and man.
 Laughing out loud
 With fear and hope, I've got a desperate plan.
 At the one-lane bridge
 I leave the giants stranded at the riverside.
 Race back to the farm, to dream with my uncle at the fireside

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U

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[MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK so whats the deal with buying music these days?  Can you not 
buy cds anymore?  I see a lot of albums of old music I would like 
to buy that are now in the itunes store for download but you dont 
see very many cds you can buy. In fact, I dont think they even 
have CD stores in the malls anymore.  So what about this 
downloading of music?  I have always thought that mp3s did not 
have the same quality as a music cd.  True or false?   If you do 
download an album from itunes onto your computer can you also 
download it to your ipod, or can it only reside in one place at a 
time?  Once you download it can you burn it to a cd?  I am just 
worried about the quality.  A lot of the music I may be interested 
in would be more instrumental or classical type stuff and I want 
to be able to hear all the details if you know what I mean. I 
would just prefer to buy a CD so I can have the cover art and so 
forth.  Truth be told I would rather have a good old fashioned LP 
but whatever.  As far as the downloading goes, some of these I see 
are pretty cheap, like 5-6 bucks for an album.

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 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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[MBZ] Trapster

2011-04-23 Thread Max Dillon
Does anyone here use the Trapster ap?

 

If you don't know of what I speak:

www.trapster.com

 

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USN
Fleet Support Team, OIC for FDNF
SPAWAR 407, Charleston SC
843.218.3713 - Office (DSN 568.3713)
843.327.7418 - Cell
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SIPRNET:  mailto:meade.dil...@navy.smil.mil meade.dil...@navy.smil.mil

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
OK so whats the deal with buying music these days?  Can you not buy cds 
anymore?


I still buy CDs from Amazon or Meijer, the local Walmart-type chain.
I like to get something durable that plays on my 1990 vintage CD player with no 
DRM crap phoning the home office every time I listen to it.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR THE CHAIRMAN 2015

2011-04-23 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote:
 Hendrik
 who welcomes the new world order

Me too.
It's first task will be to annihilate me.
Easy.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread LWB250
Hooray for Geddy, Alex and Neil.  Best band ever.  First time I saw them was 
the 2112 tour, seen them at least 8 times since.

Dan

--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 9:49 AM
 Hendrik  Fay wrote:
  http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3086/Ferrari-166-MM-Touring-Barchetta-Speciale.html
 
 
 Here's a song, set in the future when cars are banned...
 
 Rush Red Barchetta Lyrics
 
 My uncle has a country place
 That no one knows about.
 He says it used to be a farm,
 Before the Motor Law.
 And on Sundays I elude the Eyes,
 And hop the Turbine Freight
 To far outside the Wire,
 Where my white-haired uncle waits.
 
 Jump to the ground
 As the Turbo slows to cross the Borderline.
 Run like the wind,
 As excitement shivers up and down my spine.
 Down in his barn,
 My uncle preserved for me an old machine,
 For fifty-odd years.
 To keep it as new has been his dearest dream.
 
 I strip away the old debris
 That hides a shining car.
 A brilliant red Barchetta
 From a better, vanished time.
 I fire up the willing engine,
 Responding with a roar.
 Tires spitting gravel,
 I commit my weekly crime...
 
 Wind-
 In my hair-
 Shifting and drifting-
 Mechanical music-
 Adrenalin surge...
 
 Well-weathered leather,
 Hot metal and oil,
 The scented country air.
 Sunlight on chrome,
 The blur of the landscape,
 Every nerve aware.
 
 Suddenly ahead of me,
 Across the mountainside,
 A gleaming alloy air-car
 Shoots towards me, two lanes wide.
 I spin around with shrieking tires,
 To run the deadly race,
 Go screaming through the valley
 As another joins the chase.
 
 Drive like the wind,
 Straining the limits of machine and man.
 Laughing out loud
 With fear and hope, I've got a desperate plan.
 At the one-lane bridge
 I leave the giants stranded at the riverside.
 Race back to the farm, to dream with my uncle at the
 fireside
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread E M
I watched them play this live in concert a couple of times.  Great tune.

Ed
300E

On 23 April 2011 11:17, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 One of my favorites

 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:

  Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 
 http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3086/Ferrari-166-MM-Touring-Barchetta-Speciale.html
 
  Here's a song, set in the future when cars are banned...
 
  Rush Red Barchetta Lyrics
 
  My uncle has a country place
  That no one knows about.
  He says it used to be a farm,
  Before the Motor Law.
  And on Sundays I elude the Eyes,
  And hop the Turbine Freight
  To far outside the Wire,
  Where my white-haired uncle waits.
 
  Jump to the ground
  As the Turbo slows to cross the Borderline.
  Run like the wind,
  As excitement shivers up and down my spine.
  Down in his barn,
  My uncle preserved for me an old machine,
  For fifty-odd years.
  To keep it as new has been his dearest dream.
 
  I strip away the old debris
  That hides a shining car.
  A brilliant red Barchetta
  From a better, vanished time.
  I fire up the willing engine,
  Responding with a roar.
  Tires spitting gravel,
  I commit my weekly crime...
 
  Wind-
  In my hair-
  Shifting and drifting-
  Mechanical music-
  Adrenalin surge...
 
  Well-weathered leather,
  Hot metal and oil,
  The scented country air.
  Sunlight on chrome,
  The blur of the landscape,
  Every nerve aware.
 
  Suddenly ahead of me,
  Across the mountainside,
  A gleaming alloy air-car
  Shoots towards me, two lanes wide.
  I spin around with shrieking tires,
  To run the deadly race,
  Go screaming through the valley
  As another joins the chase.
 
  Drive like the wind,
  Straining the limits of machine and man.
  Laughing out loud
  With fear and hope, I've got a desperate plan.
  At the one-lane bridge
  I leave the giants stranded at the riverside.
  Race back to the farm, to dream with my uncle at the fireside
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote:
 Truth be told I would rather have a good old fashioned LP but
 whatever.

Yeah - I wanna download an LP
When you find the place, let me know.
I hate digital stuff these days - not enough sampling, etc...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread E M
When music is compressed for for MP3s and such, they strip away some of the
details, but to most human ears, they never notice or miss it.  You can
still get CDs, but brick and mortar places are closing all the time.  There
are however lots of places that sell used CDs, as well as used LPs.  There
are those who are loyal audiophiles who swear LPs are better than CDs.
Personally, I like LPs too, and I find them a bit warmer than CDs, even
though there is some popping and hissing at times.  There are a few places
that are reissuing LPs, as there seems to be a resurgence in LP interest.

You might also try garage sales, and church auctions.  Often, you can pick
up whole collections that people just want to get rid of for next to nothing
(often $2-3) for the lot.  And the bonus as you say, a nice LP cover to hold
and read while listening.

Ed
300E

On 23 April 2011 11:32, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 OK so whats the deal with buying music these days?  Can you not buy cds
 anymore?  I see a lot of albums of old music I would like to buy that are
 now in the itunes store for download but you dont see very many cds you can
 buy. In fact, I dont think they even have CD stores in the malls anymore.
  So what about this downloading of music?  I have always thought that mp3s
 did not have the same quality as a music cd.  True or false?   If you do
 download an album from itunes onto your computer can you also download it to
 your ipod, or can it only reside in one place at a time?  Once you download
 it can you burn it to a cd?  I am just worried about the quality.  A lot of
 the music I may be interested in would be more instrumental or classical
 type stuff and I want to be able to hear all the details if you know what I
 mean. I would just prefer to buy a CD so I can have the cover art and so
 forth.  Truth be told I would rather have a good old fashioned LP but
 whatever.  As far as the downloading goes, some of these I see are pretty
 cheap, like 5-6 bucks for an album.
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  99 E430, 99 E320, 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD,
  92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2,
  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
 http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley

E M wrote:

I watched them play this live in concert a couple of times.  Great tune.


I didn't know before today that it was based on this:
http://www.2112.net/xanadu/articles/a_nice_morning_drive.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 123 engine into a w126 300SDL - will it fly?

2011-04-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
The 85 399D has an electronic tach.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

 You would want to try to get one that does not use a tach amp

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 On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:51, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 
  Is there any major difference in oil pan between the 617.951 and 617.952?
 
  I'm thinking that unless you already had a surplus 300D engine, it'd be
 easier to buy a wrecked or rusted 300SD for a drivetrain donor.
 
  Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread E M
I seem to remember there was some concert flyer too, that made reference to
the song, and also a Ferrari GTO, along with doing a drum solo with just
enough time following it to swig back some Canada Dry.  That concert was
awhile ago, so I'm a bit fuzzy.  The fuzziness is do to the passing of time,
and nothing else that happened at the concert, honest!! hee hee

Neil must be a bit of a gear head.  After his wife passed away, and his
daughter died, he took some time off and did an extensive tour on a BMW bike
up north.  I believe following this motor tour, he wrote his book.  Can't
remember the name off the top of my head, but I'm sure you can Google it.

Quite an interesting group of men.

Ed
300E   Currently reading a bio on Jimmy Page.

On 23 April 2011 12:54, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 E M wrote:

 I watched them play this live in concert a couple of times.  Great tune.


 I didn't know before today that it was based on this:
 http://www.2112.net/xanadu/articles/a_nice_morning_drive.htm

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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

2011-04-23 Thread Luther's Benz
The Enhanced Fujita scale sets an EF4 tornado at approx 400-900 meters wide. 
nbsp;An EF5 is approx 1100m +, or about 3/4mi. nbsp;A tornado wider than a 
mile is extremely rare and I would venture to say that 5mi wide tornados are 
unheard of and maybe physically impossible.


Luther
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
On Apr 20, 2011 4:38 PM, Dieselhead lt;126die...@gmail.comgt; wrote: 

I saw a killer tornado in about 2001 that was probably more than 5 

miles wide.  Maybe as much as 10.  It was 15-20 miles away, and it 

was so huge that it was really hard to see any motion.  Huge black 

cloud reaching almost to the ground, then a little daylight under the 

cloud on each side of where the tornado was on the ground.  the 

funnel was vastly wider than it was tall.  Perhaps 20 to 100 times 

wider than tall. Nothing at all like a TV tornado.



First everyone in the building went into the johns, then after 15-20 

minutes  that got boring and people started drifting out to watch the 

storm.  if you picked a landmark and watched for a minute, you could 

see that it was moving, but because it was so huge, the movement at 

60-70 MPH from west to east was barely perceptible.





gt;Friend at lunch Monday said he saw area of tornado damage near Dunn 

gt;on Sunday 5 miles wide.  A 5-mile wide tornado on Earth?  Maybe, 

gt;combination tornado and other stuff.  How 'bout it, you 

gt;meteorological experts?

gt;

gt;Wilton

gt;

gt;- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 

gt;lt;richthomas79td...@constructivity.netgt;

gt;To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:39 PM

gt;Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;

gt;gt;My niece and fam stopped in Dunn NC to get gas and she got a vid of 

gt;gt;a tornado off a coupla miles, it looked to be quite wide.  They all 

gt;gt;went into the station store, and they huddled in back while 

gt;gt;everyone else was up at the windows looking out at it all.

gt;gt;

gt;gt;--R

gt;gt;

gt;gt;On 4/20/2011 1:19 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

gt;gt;gt;We drove through NC during that big storm, saw lots of trees down. 

gt;gt;gt;Traffic was

gt;gt;gt;abysmal.  Near Selma, after 45 minutes or so of traffic jam on 

gt;gt;gt;'95, we exited

gt;gt;gt;and drove back roads for an hour to get around the slow spot.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Glad to hear that you made it through, and no persons or MBs were 
harmed!

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;   Very respectfully,

gt;gt;gt;/s/

gt;gt;gt;Max Dillon

gt;gt;gt;'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)

gt;gt;gt;'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)

gt;gt;gt;'73 Balboa 20 (Highamp;  dry until the head is back on)

gt;gt;gt;Charleston SC

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;From: WILTONlt;wilt...@nc.rr.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;To: mercedes listlt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:26:04 AM

gt;gt;gt;Subject: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;'Been without internet service since noon last Sat.  Tree fell and 
took out

gt;gt;gt;phone, TV and Roadrunner.  'Just downloaded 222 msgs.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Just order CDs off Amazon, no tax and I think if you get a certain 
amount there is no shipping fee, or minimal.  Or like someone said, used 
CD stores or CL or yard sales or whatever.  I think there is another 
site, CDNow or something like that?


MP3s are much less quality than a CD (you might not really notice, but 
it is), but if you rip it to a music player or your computer it 
generally goes into some compressed/lossy format (MP3 etc.) though you 
can do it directly.


Once in iTunes it is on your computer and pod, I think you can put stuff 
on more than one computer but I have not tried that.  Have not tried to 
burn to a CD (would be an MP3 CD or something like that, not sure it 
would play on all players though some car players will).  AppleTV is 
interesting in that you can connect it to your computer on the network 
(wired or wireless) and stream your iTunes to your receiver you have it 
hooked to, or watch vids on your TV it is hooked to, that's kinda fun.


You should also check out LastFM and Pandora and such, you put in your 
kind of music or artist or band, and it just starts playing stuff like 
your own personal radio station, that kind of music you specify.  It 
used to work on the iPod and I would plug that into the receiver and 
listen to streaming stuff but I think now they make you pay for ipod 
streaming.


--R

On 4/23/2011 11:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
OK so whats the deal with buying music these days?  Can you not buy 
cds anymore?  I see a lot of albums of old music I would like to buy 
that are now in the itunes store for download but you dont see very 
many cds you can buy. In fact, I dont think they even have CD stores 
in the malls anymore.  So what about this downloading of music?  I 
have always thought that mp3s did not have the same quality as a music 
cd.  True or false?   If you do download an album from itunes onto 
your computer can you also download it to your ipod, or can it only 
reside in one place at a time?  Once you download it can you burn it 
to a cd?  I am just worried about the quality.  A lot of the music I 
may be interested in would be more instrumental or classical type 
stuff and I want to be able to hear all the details if you know what I 
mean. I would just prefer to buy a CD so I can have the cover art and 
so forth.  Truth be told I would rather have a good old fashioned LP 
but whatever.  As far as the downloading goes, some of these I see are 
pretty cheap, like 5-6 bucks for an album.


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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-23 Thread Fmiser
  Fmiser wrote:
 
  I'm still trying to figure out where the gear shift is.
  Maybe over by the door?

 Mitch Haley wrote:
 
 Dashboard, front and center. Four big buttons marked N, P, D,
 and R.

What??!!??  No manual transmission??  *chuckle*

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

2011-04-23 Thread WILTON

That's what I've been thinking, and that's why I said, on Earth.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!


The Enhanced Fujita scale sets an EF4 tornado at approx 400-900 meters 
wide. nbsp;An EF5 is approx 1100m +, or about 3/4mi. nbsp;A tornado 
wider than a mile is extremely rare and I would venture to say that 5mi 
wide tornados are unheard of and maybe physically impossible.



Luther
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
On Apr 20, 2011 4:38 PM, Dieselhead lt;126die...@gmail.comgt; wrote:

I saw a killer tornado in about 2001 that was probably more than 5

miles wide.  Maybe as much as 10.  It was 15-20 miles away, and it

was so huge that it was really hard to see any motion.  Huge black

cloud reaching almost to the ground, then a little daylight under the

cloud on each side of where the tornado was on the ground.  the

funnel was vastly wider than it was tall.  Perhaps 20 to 100 times

wider than tall. Nothing at all like a TV tornado.



First everyone in the building went into the johns, then after 15-20

minutes  that got boring and people started drifting out to watch the

storm.  if you picked a landmark and watched for a minute, you could

see that it was moving, but because it was so huge, the movement at

60-70 MPH from west to east was barely perceptible.





gt;Friend at lunch Monday said he saw area of tornado damage near Dunn

gt;on Sunday 5 miles wide.  A 5-mile wide tornado on Earth?  Maybe,

gt;combination tornado and other stuff.  How 'bout it, you

gt;meteorological experts?

gt;

gt;Wilton

gt;

gt;- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas

gt;lt;richthomas79td...@constructivity.netgt;

gt;To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:39 PM

gt;Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;

gt;gt;My niece and fam stopped in Dunn NC to get gas and she got a vid 
of


gt;gt;a tornado off a coupla miles, it looked to be quite wide.  They 
all


gt;gt;went into the station store, and they huddled in back while

gt;gt;everyone else was up at the windows looking out at it all.

gt;gt;

gt;gt;--R

gt;gt;

gt;gt;On 4/20/2011 1:19 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

gt;gt;gt;We drove through NC during that big storm, saw lots of trees 
down.


gt;gt;gt;Traffic was

gt;gt;gt;abysmal.  Near Selma, after 45 minutes or so of traffic jam on

gt;gt;gt;'95, we exited

gt;gt;gt;and drove back roads for an hour to get around the slow spot.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Glad to hear that you made it through, and no persons or MBs 
were harmed!


gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;   Very respectfully,

gt;gt;gt;/s/

gt;gt;gt;Max Dillon

gt;gt;gt;'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)

gt;gt;gt;'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)

gt;gt;gt;'73 Balboa 20 (Highamp;  dry until the head is back on)

gt;gt;gt;Charleston SC

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;From: WILTONlt;wilt...@nc.rr.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;To: mercedes listlt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:26:04 AM

gt;gt;gt;Subject: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;'Been without internet service since noon last Sat.  Tree fell 
and took out


gt;gt;gt;phone, TV and Roadrunner.  'Just downloaded 222 msgs.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread Fmiser
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I have always thought that mp3s did not have the same quality
 as a music cd.  True or false?

True.  

The file is smaller because large portions have been thrown
away.  MP3 is patent encumbered.  The patent covers the
calculation of what can be thrown away without the listener
noticing.  

There are different levels of MP3, usually referenced by
bitrate.  With the new(er) variable bit rate (where the
bitrate chances depending on the content) the numbers are not
as predictable.  Never the less, it usually takes sharp ears
and good gear to hear the difference between uncompressed
(.wav, or what's on a CD) from a 256 kb/s MP3.  128 kb/s is
pretty common and most people in most situations won't notice
anything is missing.  At 56 kb/s, the loss is noticable -
but a lot of people won't care.

Once it has been compressed, the information is lost.  Turning
it back into a .wav does _not_ recover the lost data.

 If you do download an album from itunes onto your computer can
 you also download it to your ipod, or can it only reside in
 one place at a time?

Apple uses AAC, which is for practical purposes is just an
alternative to MP3.  Different patent, license - same uses and
problems.

iTunes is ornery about copies and such. I believe computer and
iPod are fine.  But woe to you if you want to move them to a
new harddrive or new computer!

 Once you download it can you burn it to a cd?  I am just
 worried about the quality.

iTunes music can have artificial restrictions.  Otherwise,
yes.  MP3, AAC, OGG, FLAC, etc. can all be converted to WAV to
be burned to a CD - but the quality will _not_ improve when
you do.  

 A lot of the music I may be interested in would be
 more instrumental or classical type stuff and I want to be
 able to hear all the details if you know what I mean.

Instrumental detail is not what is missing from
over-compressed music.  Trying to use words to describe sound
is always weak...  But I would describe the difference as
tonal polish  The subtle differnce between a good electronic
piano and a real piano can be lost.  A voice might not sound
quite as smooth.  Or the music can loose depth and begin
sounding flat (not like out of tune flat - a dimensionless
kind of flat)

Again, all this loss increases as the bitrate goes down.  A
file encoded at 256 kb/s is really very good sounding.  Less
than 128 kb/s is were it usually becomes obvious.  And some
people and listening situations don't demand more.  Background
music is often fine at much less than 128 kb/s.  Crank it up
and _listen_ and the shortcoming become noticable.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas

Maybe he was on Jupiter.

--R

On 4/23/2011 3:05 PM, WILTON wrote:

That's what I've been thinking, and that's why I said, on Earth.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Luther's Benz 
benz-n-h...@gulseth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!


The Enhanced Fujita scale sets an EF4 tornado at approx 400-900 
meters wide. nbsp;An EF5 is approx 1100m +, or about 3/4mi. nbsp;A 
tornado wider than a mile is extremely rare and I would venture to 
say that 5mi wide tornados are unheard of and maybe physically 
impossible.



Luther
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
On Apr 20, 2011 4:38 PM, Dieselhead lt;126die...@gmail.comgt; wrote:

I saw a killer tornado in about 2001 that was probably more than 5

miles wide.  Maybe as much as 10.  It was 15-20 miles away, and it

was so huge that it was really hard to see any motion.  Huge black

cloud reaching almost to the ground, then a little daylight under the

cloud on each side of where the tornado was on the ground.  the

funnel was vastly wider than it was tall.  Perhaps 20 to 100 times

wider than tall. Nothing at all like a TV tornado.



First everyone in the building went into the johns, then after 15-20

minutes  that got boring and people started drifting out to watch the

storm.  if you picked a landmark and watched for a minute, you could

see that it was moving, but because it was so huge, the movement at

60-70 MPH from west to east was barely perceptible.





gt;Friend at lunch Monday said he saw area of tornado damage near Dunn

gt;on Sunday 5 miles wide.  A 5-mile wide tornado on Earth?  Maybe,

gt;combination tornado and other stuff.  How 'bout it, you

gt;meteorological experts?

gt;

gt;Wilton

gt;

gt;- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas

gt;lt;richthomas79td...@constructivity.netgt;

gt;To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:39 PM

gt;Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;

gt;gt;My niece and fam stopped in Dunn NC to get gas and she got a 
vid of


gt;gt;a tornado off a coupla miles, it looked to be quite wide.  
They all


gt;gt;went into the station store, and they huddled in back while

gt;gt;everyone else was up at the windows looking out at it all.

gt;gt;

gt;gt;--R

gt;gt;

gt;gt;On 4/20/2011 1:19 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

gt;gt;gt;We drove through NC during that big storm, saw lots of 
trees down.


gt;gt;gt;Traffic was

gt;gt;gt;abysmal.  Near Selma, after 45 minutes or so of traffic 
jam on


gt;gt;gt;'95, we exited

gt;gt;gt;and drove back roads for an hour to get around the slow 
spot.


gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Glad to hear that you made it through, and no persons or 
MBs were harmed!


gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;   Very respectfully,

gt;gt;gt;/s/

gt;gt;gt;Max Dillon

gt;gt;gt;'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)

gt;gt;gt;'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)

gt;gt;gt;'73 Balboa 20 (Highamp;  dry until the head is back on)

gt;gt;gt;Charleston SC

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;From: WILTONlt;wilt...@nc.rr.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;To: mercedes listlt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:26:04 AM

gt;gt;gt;Subject: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;'Been without internet service since noon last Sat.  Tree 
fell and took out


gt;gt;gt;phone, TV and Roadrunner.  'Just downloaded 222 msgs.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread LWB250
Neil went on his 2-3 year exodus after the death of his wife from cancer.  
Shortly (around 10 months) before his wife passed, his daughter was killed in a 
car accident.

He considered himself retired after his wife's death, and went on a 2-3 year 
sabbatical, covering over 55,000 miles throughout North and South America on 
his motorcycle.

This is covered in detail in Rush's latest DVD on the history of the band.

Dan (who worked three Rush concerts in Indianapolis providing auxiliary power 
from 1978 to 1986)


--- On Sat, 4/23/11, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 1:30 PM
 I seem to remember there was some
 concert flyer too, that made reference to
 the song, and also a Ferrari GTO, along with doing a drum
 solo with just
 enough time following it to swig back some Canada
 Dry.  That concert was
 awhile ago, so I'm a bit fuzzy.  The fuzziness is do
 to the passing of time,
 and nothing else that happened at the concert, honest!! hee
 hee
 
 Neil must be a bit of a gear head.  After his wife
 passed away, and his
 daughter died, he took some time off and did an extensive
 tour on a BMW bike
 up north.  I believe following this motor tour, he
 wrote his book.  Can't
 remember the name off the top of my head, but I'm sure you
 can Google it.
 
 Quite an interesting group of men.
 
 Ed
 300E   Currently reading a bio on Jimmy
 Page.
 
 On 23 April 2011 12:54, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
 wrote:
 
  E M wrote:
 
  I watched them play this live in concert a couple
 of times.  Great tune.
 
 
  I didn't know before today that it was based on this:
  http://www.2112.net/xanadu/articles/a_nice_morning_drive.htm
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 OK so whats the deal with buying music these days?  Can you not buy cds
 anymore?

 I still buy CDs from Amazon or Meijer, the local Walmart-type chain.
 I like to get something durable that plays on my 1990 vintage CD player with
 no DRM crap phoning the home office every time I listen to it.

I am with Kaleb and Mitch.  Amazon has a plentiful selection of new
and used CDs.  While you can typically download a whole album for
$5-10, I would much rather have the real CD and be able to encode it
as I see fit or just play it as is, for about the same price.

If you want to browse in person, I bet there's plenty of stores
selling used CDs in Tulsa---just go where the college kids hang out.
Probably vinyl there, too.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT buying music these days, CD,s MP3 etc

2011-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


If you want to browse in person, I bet there's plenty of stores
selling used CDs in Tulsa---just go where the college kids hang out.
Probably vinyl there, too.


There are a few in Tulsa:
http://www.google.com/search?q=tulsa+record+store

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[MBZ] Neil Perts book (was: Re: OT: We Be Slammin')

2011-04-23 Thread ernest breakfield

name of the book was:
Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road.
ISBN-10: 1550225480
ISBN-13: 978-1550225488


cheers!
e

On 23/Apr/11 10:30, E M wrote:

Neil must be a bit of a gear head.  After his wife passed away, and his
daughter died, he took some time off and did an extensive tour on a BMW bike
up north.  I believe following this motor tour, he wrote his book.  Can't
remember the name off the top of my head, but I'm sure you can Google it.

Quite an interesting group of men.

Ed

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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

2011-04-23 Thread WILTON

'Zackly my thought.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!



Maybe he was on Jupiter.

--R

On 4/23/2011 3:05 PM, WILTON wrote:

That's what I've been thinking, and that's why I said, on Earth.

Wilton

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benz-n-h...@gulseth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!


The Enhanced Fujita scale sets an EF4 tornado at approx 400-900 meters 
wide. nbsp;An EF5 is approx 1100m +, or about 3/4mi. nbsp;A tornado 
wider than a mile is extremely rare and I would venture to say that 5mi 
wide tornados are unheard of and maybe physically impossible.



Luther
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
On Apr 20, 2011 4:38 PM, Dieselhead lt;126die...@gmail.comgt; wrote:

I saw a killer tornado in about 2001 that was probably more than 5

miles wide.  Maybe as much as 10.  It was 15-20 miles away, and it

was so huge that it was really hard to see any motion.  Huge black

cloud reaching almost to the ground, then a little daylight under the

cloud on each side of where the tornado was on the ground.  the

funnel was vastly wider than it was tall.  Perhaps 20 to 100 times

wider than tall. Nothing at all like a TV tornado.



First everyone in the building went into the johns, then after 15-20

minutes  that got boring and people started drifting out to watch the

storm.  if you picked a landmark and watched for a minute, you could

see that it was moving, but because it was so huge, the movement at

60-70 MPH from west to east was barely perceptible.





gt;Friend at lunch Monday said he saw area of tornado damage near Dunn

gt;on Sunday 5 miles wide.  A 5-mile wide tornado on Earth?  Maybe,

gt;combination tornado and other stuff.  How 'bout it, you

gt;meteorological experts?

gt;

gt;Wilton

gt;

gt;- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas

gt;lt;richthomas79td...@constructivity.netgt;

gt;To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:39 PM

gt;Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;

gt;gt;My niece and fam stopped in Dunn NC to get gas and she got a vid 
of


gt;gt;a tornado off a coupla miles, it looked to be quite wide.  They 
all


gt;gt;went into the station store, and they huddled in back while

gt;gt;everyone else was up at the windows looking out at it all.

gt;gt;

gt;gt;--R

gt;gt;

gt;gt;On 4/20/2011 1:19 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

gt;gt;gt;We drove through NC during that big storm, saw lots of trees 
down.


gt;gt;gt;Traffic was

gt;gt;gt;abysmal.  Near Selma, after 45 minutes or so of traffic jam 
on


gt;gt;gt;'95, we exited

gt;gt;gt;and drove back roads for an hour to get around the slow 
spot.


gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Glad to hear that you made it through, and no persons or MBs 
were harmed!


gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;   Very respectfully,

gt;gt;gt;/s/

gt;gt;gt;Max Dillon

gt;gt;gt;'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)

gt;gt;gt;'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)

gt;gt;gt;'73 Balboa 20 (Highamp;  dry until the head is back on)

gt;gt;gt;Charleston SC

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;From: WILTONlt;wilt...@nc.rr.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;To: mercedes listlt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:26:04 AM

gt;gt;gt;Subject: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;'Been without internet service since noon last Sat.  Tree 
fell and took out


gt;gt;gt;phone, TV and Roadrunner.  'Just downloaded 222 msgs.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Climate control work

2011-04-23 Thread WILTON

'Nother ATTABOY!

Wilton

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From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
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ban...@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Climate control work



Hi Guys,

An update to the work i've been doing on the climate control in my '79
450SLC 5.0.

So, thanks to some great guys on the list here, I was able to obtain 
enough

parts to experiment as well as repair my servo

Here is what I have learned:

The amplifier, when working, is weak.  It can't take the load of a gummed 
up

servo very well, especially the parking circuit.  I had my servo operating
just fine with 12V applied directly to the motor, but wouldn't move with 
the

amplifier connected.  So I took apart the servo (again) and rebuilt the
gearbox.  Cleaned out all the old grease and re-greased everything.  I 
found
that you can connect the servo motor to the car with the servo 
disassembled
and control the servo using the feedback potentiometer.  This allows you 
to

test the amplifier to see if its working properly as well as watch the
gearbox operate with the real voltage applied by the amplifier.  The 
circuit
has power with just the key on, so its not necessary to start the engine 
or

to have vacuum.

Once I was satisfied that the servo motor and gear box operated smoothly
outside of its housing, I carefully reassembled the servo.  The little
washer-like pieces that go over the heater valve must be carefully
installed!  If they interfere with the keying of the water valve or 
gearing,

the assembly will not seat completely and bind up when screwed down!

Getting everything synchronized is very important, but not difficult.  If
you run the motor to its stop where the water valve would have been spun
fully clockwise, you can then turn the valve itself clockwise by hand 
until

it stops (or nearly stops).

Once everything is back together, when you plug in the power connector the
to the servo it should park.  If it doesn't, something is binding up 
(start

over!).  Once parked, set the feedback potentiometer to 1.4kohms and
install.  Now, everything is synced up.  I put a little mark on the top of
the feedback potentiometer to monitor the position of the servo when the 
car

is running and to ensure it parks. I just ran it though full heat, full
cool, and to park several times and it worked well.

Hopefully, it continues to work!

Some other things to note:
-I bought a brand new amp and its dead.  I'm not sure if its always been
dead or I killed it.  But both amps I have from 1979 still work identical 
to

each other.
-You can plug in the power connector the the servo backwards and it won't
be immediately obvious under that mess of vacuum lines.  Be careful!
-If the end of the black wiping arm that makes all the electrical
connections breaks, you need to replace or repair it.  It looks like it 
will
still work, but its position is just off enough to short out the amp via 
the

parking circuit.
-The parking circuit moves the servo slower than it moves under normal
operation.  I don't know if this is due to the design of the amp or if 
both

of mine are weak.  I fear that the servo won't park one day and just sit
there cooking.

Thanks to everyone for reading and your previous comments.

Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas

Were you able to give them enough power to turn their amps to 11?

--R

On 4/23/2011 3:57 PM, LWB250 wrote:

Dan (who worked three Rush concerts in Indianapolis providing auxiliary power 
from 1978 to 1986)


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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread E M
you know, there's a company out there making a replacement plexi front for
old Marshalls, where the volume goes up to 11. lol.  If I still had my old
head, I'd be tempted to get one for giggles. lol

Ed
300E

On 23 April 2011 17:29, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 Were you able to give them enough power to turn their amps to 11?

 --R


 On 4/23/2011 3:57 PM, LWB250 wrote:

 Dan (who worked three Rush concerts in Indianapolis providing auxiliary
 power from 1978 to 1986)


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Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book (was: Re: OT: We Be Slammin')

2011-04-23 Thread E M
Yeah, that's it!  I had no luck finding it at my local bookshop when it
first came out, which kind of surprised me, with them being local boys and
all.  Thanks for that info Ernest.

Ed
300E

On 23 April 2011 16:33, ernest breakfield
erne...@backyardengineering.orgwrote:

 name of the book was:
 Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road.
 ISBN-10: 1550225480
 ISBN-13: 978-1550225488


 cheers!
 e

 On 23/Apr/11 10:30, E M wrote:

 Neil must be a bit of a gear head.  After his wife passed away, and his
 daughter died, he took some time off and did an extensive tour on a BMW
 bike
 up north.  I believe following this motor tour, he wrote his book.  Can't
 remember the name off the top of my head, but I'm sure you can Google it.

 Quite an interesting group of men.

 Ed

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Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book

2011-04-23 Thread Mitch Haley

E M wrote:

Yeah, that's it!  I had no luck finding it at my local bookshop when it
first came out, which kind of surprised me, with them being local boys and
all.  Thanks for that info Ernest.



There are 21 of them in the entire Michigan library system.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-23 Thread LWB250
Sound on house power, lighting on generators.

Amazingly enough, the old (now defunct) Market Square Area only had 1600 amp 3 
phase house power.  After you subtract the house loads, there was around 400 
amps left for the talent.  Woefully inadequate for the large arena shows that 
started up in the late 70s.

We would bring a 300kW Cummins set on a Landoll lowboy with a 300 gallon fuel 
tank.  It got parked on Market Street below the arena.  They core drilled a 
hole through the floor of the arena where we ran the cables to the distribution 
boxes backstage.  Show up, park the truck, find the road manager, get paid, sit 
back while the electricians ran the cables (union facility) and flip the switch 
for the sound check and later for the show itself.  Otherwise it was down time 
wandering around backstage, eating and staying out of the way of the crew.

Did a lot of shows there, and at the Clay Courts on the IUPUI campus in the 
summertime.  Not a bad deal for part time work that paid cash and gained one 
access to backstage and the buffet for the crew.

Dan are you with the band? Man

--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 5:29 PM
 Were you able to give them enough
 power to turn their amps to 11?
 
 --R
 
 On 4/23/2011 3:57 PM, LWB250 wrote:
  Dan (who worked three Rush concerts in Indianapolis
 providing auxiliary power from 1978 to 1986)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book

2011-04-23 Thread LWB250
You can buy it on his Web site as well as the Rush Web site, I believe.

Dan fly by night Man

--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 5:45 PM
 E M wrote:
  Yeah, that's it!  I had no luck finding it at my
 local bookshop when it
  first came out, which kind of surprised me, with them
 being local boys and
  all.  Thanks for that info Ernest.
 
 
 There are 21 of them in the entire Michigan library
 system.
 
 Mitch.
 
 
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[MBZ] CL Idiot -- Last of the German made Benz

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2342385201.html

--R


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[MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK GOOD AND RUN GOOD

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
THIS CAR HAS THAT DOUBLE GLASS THEY CALL BULLET PROOF [Owner probably 
needs it-- Ed.]


NICE SET OF 20 INCH WHEELS **

--R

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[MBZ] My neighbor the CL crack head

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2338626920.html

--R

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[MBZ] OK the last on a slow day -- Trust me, you will get your money’s worth and i’m willing to negotiate.

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2321592963.html

I hauled a load of meth and crack and oxy

--R

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Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK GOOD AND RUN GOOD

2011-04-23 Thread Max Dillon
I'm sure I can imagine the ad and pix, but was there supposed to be a link?

-Max

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Subject: [MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK GOOD AND RUN GOOD

THIS CAR HAS THAT DOUBLE GLASS THEY CALL BULLET PROOF [Owner probably 
needs it-- Ed.]

NICE SET OF 20 INCH WHEELS **

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book

2011-04-23 Thread ernest breakfield
of course, there's always gag! Amazon,.. probably get it delivered for 
under $20.



cheers!
e


On 23/Apr/11 15:13, LWB250 wrote:

You can buy it on his Web site as well as the Rush Web site, I believe.

Dan fly by night Man

--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net  wrote:


From: Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 5:45 PM
E M wrote:

Yeah, that's it!  I had no luck finding it at my

local bookshop when it

first came out, which kind of surprised me, with them

being local boys and

all.  Thanks for that info Ernest.


There are 21 of them in the entire Michigan library
system.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK GOOD AND RUN GOOD

2011-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas

oops

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2341018260.html

--R

On 4/23/2011 8:41 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

I'm sure I can imagine the ad and pix, but was there supposed to be a link?

-Max

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Subject: [MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK GOOD AND RUN GOOD

THIS CAR HAS THAT DOUBLE GLASS THEY CALL BULLET PROOF [Owner probably
needs it-- Ed.]

NICE SET OF 20 INCH WHEELS **

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Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book

2011-04-23 Thread LWB250
Uh, that's Peart and it's pronounced peeert.

Dan

--- On Sat, 4/23/11, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:

 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 9:55 PM
 of course, there's always
 gag! Amazon,.. probably get it delivered for 
 under $20.
 
 
 cheers!
 e
 
 
 On 23/Apr/11 15:13, LWB250 wrote:
  You can buy it on his Web site as well as the Rush Web
 site, I believe.
 
  Dan fly by night Man
 
  --- On Sat, 4/23/11, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net 
 wrote:
 
  From: Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Neil Perts book
  To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 5:45 PM
  E M wrote:
  Yeah, that's it!  I had no luck finding
 it at my
  local bookshop when it
  first came out, which kind of surprised me,
 with them
  being local boys and
  all.  Thanks for that info Ernest.
 
  There are 21 of them in the entire Michigan
 library
  system.
 
  Mitch.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK GOOD AND RUN GOOD

2011-04-23 Thread LWB250
Wow. Those wheels are really ugly.

Dan


--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK GOOD AND RUN GOOD
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 9:58 PM
 oops
 
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2341018260.html
 
 --R
 
 On 4/23/2011 8:41 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
  I'm sure I can imagine the ad and pix, but was there
 supposed to be a link?
 
  -Max
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
  On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:22 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: [MBZ] One for Wilton fo sho yo -- IT LOOK
 GOOD AND RUN GOOD
 
  THIS CAR HAS THAT DOUBLE GLASS THEY CALL BULLET
 PROOF [Owner probably
  needs it-- Ed.]
 
  NICE SET OF 20 INCH WHEELS **
 
  --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] My neighbor the CL crack head

2011-04-23 Thread Rolf

Trying to sell your car out from under you eh?

On 4/23/2011 7:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2338626920.html

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Re: [MBZ] Climate control work

2011-04-23 Thread OK Don
Excellent work!  IIRC, the key to maximizing the life of the servo is
changing the coolant every two years, without fail.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:53 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Nother ATTABOY!

 Wilton

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1990 300D 2.5T
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Re: [MBZ] Climate control work

2011-04-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Nice! Got pics? :)

Walt
On Apr 23, 2011 10:21 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Excellent work! IIRC, the key to maximizing the life of the servo is
 changing the coolant every two years, without fail.

 On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:53 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Nother ATTABOY!

 Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

2011-04-23 Thread Dieselhead
Yes, and it only floods here once every 500 years where we are 
building these arenas, blah Blah blah.  I must be pretty old. 
I've lived through at least 3 500 year floods. and maybe a 1000 year 
flood.  I guess that makes me somewhere between 1500 and 2500 years 
old.  The buildings that would never flood... have been flooded 3 
or 4 times.


I have no idea how wide this tornado was, but it was a monster and 
did a lot of damage.  As I said, it was so big around that the 
circular motion was nearly imperceptible, and it ~60 Mph forward 
speed was nearly imperceptible.  One mile wide or 5 or 10, it was a 
monster.




My point is that whatever humans do, the powers of nature, as created 
by God, are more powerful, and will not be defined.  Earthquakes 
bigger than possible in japan, causing damage beyond the design  of 
reactors;  Tsunamis way larger than expected, or barely perceptible 
when predicted to be large; Unbelievable floods occurring every 5, 10 
or 20 years, when the engineers say they can't happen more often than 
once in 500 or 1000 years.   It is all normal.


As Dr. Deming said, be careful not to confuse normal variation with 
random variation.


Happy Easter!

x


The Enhanced Fujita scale sets an EF4 tornado at approx 400-900 
meters wide. nbsp;An EF5 is approx 1100m +, or about 3/4mi. nbsp;A 
tornado wider than a mile is extremely rare and I would venture to 
say that 5mi wide tornados are unheard of and maybe physically 
impossible.



Luther
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On Apr 20, 2011 4:38 PM, Dieselhead lt;126die...@gmail.comgt; wrote:

I saw a killer tornado in about 2001 that was probably more than 5

miles wide.  Maybe as much as 10.  It was 15-20 miles away, and it

was so huge that it was really hard to see any motion.  Huge black

cloud reaching almost to the ground, then a little daylight under the

cloud on each side of where the tornado was on the ground.  the

funnel was vastly wider than it was tall.  Perhaps 20 to 100 times

wider than tall. Nothing at all like a TV tornado.



First everyone in the building went into the johns, then after 15-20

minutes  that got boring and people started drifting out to watch the

storm.  if you picked a landmark and watched for a minute, you could

see that it was moving, but because it was so huge, the movement at

60-70 MPH from west to east was barely perceptible.





gt;Friend at lunch Monday said he saw area of tornado damage near Dunn

gt;on Sunday 5 miles wide.  A 5-mile wide tornado on Earth?  Maybe,

gt;combination tornado and other stuff.  How 'bout it, you

gt;meteorological experts?

gt;

gt;Wilton

gt;

gt;- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas

gt;lt;richthomas79td...@constructivity.netgt;

gt;To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:39 PM

gt;Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;

gt;gt;My niece and fam stopped in Dunn NC to get gas and she got a vid of

gt;gt;a tornado off a coupla miles, it looked to be quite wide.  They all

gt;gt;went into the station store, and they huddled in back while

gt;gt;everyone else was up at the windows looking out at it all.

gt;gt;

gt;gt;--R

gt;gt;

gt;gt;On 4/20/2011 1:19 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

gt;gt;gt;We drove through NC during that big storm, saw lots of trees down.

gt;gt;gt;Traffic was

gt;gt;gt;abysmal.  Near Selma, after 45 minutes or so of traffic jam on

gt;gt;gt;'95, we exited

gt;gt;gt;and drove back roads for an hour to get around the slow spot.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Glad to hear that you made it through, and no persons or 
MBs were harmed!


gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;   Very respectfully,

gt;gt;gt;/s/

gt;gt;gt;Max Dillon

gt;gt;gt;'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)

gt;gt;gt;'95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties)

gt;gt;gt;'73 Balboa 20 (Highamp;  dry until the head is back on)

gt;gt;gt;Charleston SC

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;From: WILTONlt;wilt...@nc.rr.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;To: mercedes listlt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt;

gt;gt;gt;Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 9:26:04 AM

gt;gt;gt;Subject: [MBZ] I'm back!

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;'Been without internet service since noon last Sat. 
Tree fell and took out


gt;gt;gt;phone, TV and Roadrunner.  'Just downloaded 222 msgs.

gt;gt;gt;

gt;gt;gt;Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] My neighbor the CL crack head

2011-04-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
$600 is a reasonable price for a 300D parts car with a good drive train.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

 Trying to sell your car out from under you eh?


 On 4/23/2011 7:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2338626920.html

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] CL Idiot -- Last of the German made Benz

2011-04-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
Wouldn't touch  it - the AC only runs cold.

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richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2342385201.html

 --R


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Re: [MBZ] My neighbor the CL crack head

2011-04-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It is?

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:49 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 $600 is a reasonable price for a 300D parts car with a good drive train.
 
 On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:
 
 Trying to sell your car out from under you eh?
 
 
 On 4/23/2011 7:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
 
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2338626920.html
 
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