Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-20 Thread Walt Zarnoch
No reply to my inquiry...

This is most strange.

Walt

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sounds fun! Maybe I could wrangle a deal.

 $500 only! Last offer!

 Walt

 On Feb 18, 2012 7:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe you of Grant could get Walt to ask the questions.  He has a NY
 phone.


 Weird.  I gave him a NJ phone number... maybe thats why he never
 responded!

 Jaime


 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Strange guy. I got a reply to my email to him and it ask that I give
 him a
  NY phone number for him to call me. I'm in Phoenix, so that isn't going
 to
  happen, replied to that regard with my Phx. number.. and a request for
 his
  #.. no reply.

  I feel like Gheraldo Reveria looking for the lost Scarface vault
 wtf...
  The ever elusive garage find presses forward..

   Grant...
  


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Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-20 Thread Dieselhead
A kook from NY? Who'd'a thunk it?  Maybe he is an escaped California 
fruit and flake, or a pothead zombie!



No reply to my inquiry...

This is most strange.

Walt

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds fun! Maybe I could wrangle a deal.

 $500 only! Last offer!

 Walt

 On Feb 18, 2012 7:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 Maybe you of Grant could get Walt to ask the questions.  He has a NY
 phone.



 Weird.  I gave him a NJ phone number... maybe thats why he never
 responded!

 Jaime


 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:


  Strange guy. I got a reply to my email to him and it ask that I give
 him a
  NY phone number for him to call me. I'm in Phoenix, so that isn't going
 to
  happen, replied to that regard with my Phx. number.. and a request for
 his
  #.. no reply.

 


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread Dieselhead
If I wanted a 107, that is the one that trips my trigger.  no v-8, no 
ACC, no auto trans, with Euro lights, with euro bumpers.  M110 in 
euro trim is a powerful engine for its displacement.




That's what they are calling it.  Definitely a Euro.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/2859327113.html

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
I'll go check it out for you if you want.

Definitely desirable since its a Euro, but still a little pricey if you ask 
me...

Dan

On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I wanted a 107, that is the one that trips my trigger.  no v-8, no ACC, no 
 auto trans, with Euro lights, with euro bumpers.  M110 in euro trim is a 
 powerful engine for its displacement.
 
 
 That's what they are calling it.  Definitely a Euro.
 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/2859327113.html
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

2012-02-20 Thread G Mann
I'm starting to think that the internet cafe in Nigeria where this guy is
posting out of must have closed.

Either that, or the computer room at the mental health intervention center
for hoarding has canceled his privilege access for putting all the hard
drives in safe dry storage.

Grant... ;))

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 No reply to my inquiry...

 This is most strange.

 Walt

 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Sounds fun! Maybe I could wrangle a deal.
 
  $500 only! Last offer!
 
  Walt
 
  On Feb 18, 2012 7:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Maybe you of Grant could get Walt to ask the questions.  He has a NY
  phone.
 
 
  Weird.  I gave him a NJ phone number... maybe thats why he never
  responded!
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Strange guy. I got a reply to my email to him and it ask that I give
  him a
   NY phone number for him to call me. I'm in Phoenix, so that isn't
 going
  to
   happen, replied to that regard with my Phx. number.. and a request
 for
  his
   #.. no reply.
 
   I feel like Gheraldo Reveria looking for the lost Scarface vault
  wtf...
   The ever elusive garage find presses forward..
 
Grant...
   
 
 
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[MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
Because its been too long since I have done this, I have to ask:

Can you vacuum bleed, using a MityVac, an ABS system?

I may have a pressure bleeder available, but if not, I do have a MityVac with a 
bleeder jar.

TIA,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone interested in a router pantograph?

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Canfield
I can't seem to find a price for your specific model but I found the 100
series selling for $1600.

Mike
On Feb 19, 2012 10:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Holy moly, that first one looks like it was built on a Bridgeport mill.
 The second one is similar to the one I have.  The Scott is direct drive,
 no belts. I will sell mine for substantially under 750.
 The third one is a beast too.  The fonts make it the buy to me.

 Unfortunately, I did not get any of the fonts with mine.  I made
 nameplates and such on it when I was 21 or so.  If I had fonts, I would
 have set up my kids as signmakers when they were in school.





  Dieselhead wrote:

 It is heavy enough that it does not need to be bolted down to use. I
 suppose there is 20 lb of aluminum.  Overall, probably 30-40 lb.


 Oh, I thought you were talking about something like this:

 http://search.ebay.com/**200710737588http://search.ebay.com/200710737588

 I ran nameplates on one of these the summer I was 20, never would have
 guessed it weighed less than 100lb:
 http://search.ebay.com/**280673632683http://search.ebay.com/280673632683

 Did some big signs on one of these, the head wasn't level to the table so
 I learned to vary the cutting depth to match the high and low areas of the
 table.
 Would have been easier if my employers would have gotten it set up
 properly in the first place.

 http://search.ebay.com/**320846082426http://search.ebay.com/320846082426

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[MBZ] HP TouchPad

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
Just scored a 16GB HP TouchPad, brand new in the box, from a Mac buddy.

Definitely an impulse purchase.

What will I be able to do with this thing?

A neighbor tells me that they have been heavily jail broken and can do all 
sorts of fun things.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread Craig
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:07:50 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:

 I would much prefer that over the V8.  He thinks well of his car. Maybe
 florida cars are worth $2k more than the models up here in PNW.

It depends upon where the cars have been. The warm salt air certainly
causes rust in places where it's never seen in other locales.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Canfield
Is that Android OS?  I love my Android phone and have thought a tablet
running that OS would be a very handy thing.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just scored a 16GB HP TouchPad, brand new in the box, from a Mac buddy.

 Definitely an impulse purchase.

 What will I be able to do with this thing?

 A neighbor tells me that they have been heavily jail broken and can do all
 sorts of fun things.

 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Canfield
I bought a sweet looking Delta 88 that came from Florida.  The floors and
frame were rotted beyond belief, the rest of the car looked new.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 11:22 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:07:50 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 wrote:

  I would much prefer that over the V8.  He thinks well of his car. Maybe
  florida cars are worth $2k more than the models up here in PNW.

 It depends upon where the cars have been. The warm salt air certainly
 causes rust in places where it's never seen in other locales.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
I believe it's a Palm OS of some sort. Haven't had a chance to really look into 
it yet.

I did see a reference to jail breaking them and getting some sort of Android 
port working...

Dan

On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is that Android OS?  I love my Android phone and have thought a tablet
 running that OS would be a very handy thing.
 
 Mike
 On Feb 20, 2012 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Just scored a 16GB HP TouchPad, brand new in the box, from a Mac buddy.
 
 Definitely an impulse purchase.
 
 What will I be able to do with this thing?
 
 A neighbor tells me that they have been heavily jail broken and can do all
 sorts of fun things.
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Canfield
I used to use Palm OS years ago.  I remember it was very business oriented
and very capable for it's time.  Probably not any comparison to what it is
now.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 12:42 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I believe it's a Palm OS of some sort. Haven't had a chance to really look
 into it yet.

 I did see a reference to jail breaking them and getting some sort of
 Android port working...

 Dan

 On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Is that Android OS?  I love my Android phone and have thought a tablet
  running that OS would be a very handy thing.
 
  Mike
  On Feb 20, 2012 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Just scored a 16GB HP TouchPad, brand new in the box, from a Mac buddy.
 
  Definitely an impulse purchase.
 
  What will I be able to do with this thing?
 
  A neighbor tells me that they have been heavily jail broken and can do
 all
  sorts of fun things.
 
  Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
I really think it depends on where you live.

I say that because I have two cars, one that lived in Florida all of its life, 
the other all but two years (those were spent in Indiana.)

The car that has lived here all of its life has no signs of surface rust 
anywhere to be seen, and I am talking about the undercarriage and other areas 
that would be clearly visible and exposed to the elements.

The car that started here, spent two years in Indy and is now back here shows 
surface rust on the undercarriage in a number of areas.

I bought a 1982 300SD that was in a carport 30 feet from the Gulf for over 10 
years. It had one area of rust in a wheel well arch but was otherwise untouched.

I guess my point is that just because you live near the ocean or saltwater is 
not a precursor for rust.

Dan

On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 I bought a sweet looking Delta 88 that came from Florida.  The floors and
 frame were rotted beyond belief, the rest of the car looked new.
 
 Mike
 On Feb 20, 2012 11:22 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:07:50 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 I would much prefer that over the V8.  He thinks well of his car. Maybe
 florida cars are worth $2k more than the models up here in PNW.
 
 It depends upon where the cars have been. The warm salt air certainly
 causes rust in places where it's never seen in other locales.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad

2012-02-20 Thread Luther's Benz
Palm OS sucks. nbsp;I can't wait to be rid of this Palm Pre and using an 
android smartphone.



Luther KB5QHU Forest Park, IL 
'87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) 
'91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi)nbsp;
-- mobile my Palm Pre+


On Feb 20, 2012 11:42 AM, Dan Penoff lt;lwb...@yahoo.comgt; wrote: 

I believe it's a Palm OS of some sort. Haven't had a chance to really look into 
it yet.



I did see a reference to jail breaking them and getting some sort of Android 
port working...



Dan



On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Michael Canfield lt;slozuk...@gmail.comgt; 
wrote:



gt; Is that Android OS?  I love my Android phone and have thought a tablet

gt; running that OS would be a very handy thing.

gt; 

gt; Mike

gt; On Feb 20, 2012 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff lt;lwb...@yahoo.comgt; wrote:

gt; 

gt;gt; Just scored a 16GB HP TouchPad, brand new in the box, from a Mac buddy.

gt;gt; 

gt;gt; Definitely an impulse purchase.

gt;gt; 

gt;gt; What will I be able to do with this thing?

gt;gt; 

gt;gt; A neighbor tells me that they have been heavily jail broken and can do 
all

gt;gt; sorts of fun things.

gt;gt; 

gt;gt; Dan

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Re: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding

2012-02-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Depends on what you're doing I think. In some cases you might not have to bleed 
the system at all. I did the calipers on my '03 Ford Ranger (with ABS) and 
didn't need to do more than a normal bleed, pump the pedal and open the bleeder.

I talked to a guy about it and he said as long as the reservoir never went dry 
the ABS would also never go dry and no special bleeding would be required.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:59:26 -0500
From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding
Message-ID: 822b7b92-320b-4025-8212-96266de05...@yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

Because its been too long since I have done this, I have to ask:

Can you vacuum bleed, using a MityVac, an ABS system?

I may have a pressure bleeder available, but if not, I do have a MityVac with a 
bleeder jar.

TIA,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad

2012-02-20 Thread Curt Raymond
That'll be WebOS I believe.

I got a Kindle Fire for my birthday, its a fun little toy. I wanted it mostly 
for watching movies on flights. I came back from California last Saturday, the 
Kindle worked perfectly.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:39:03 -0500
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad
Message-ID:
CALHJ_1Bk7FZOZJbTjatVCGs9khSvGU9rAfE2JsSH_=rtpl4...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Is that Android OS?  I love my Android phone and have thought a tablet
running that OS would be a very handy thing.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just scored a 16GB HP TouchPad, brand new in the box, from a Mac buddy.

 Definitely an impulse purchase.

 What will I be able to do with this thing?

 A neighbor tells me that they have been heavily jail broken and can do all
 sorts of fun things.

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone interested in a router pantograph?

2012-02-20 Thread Rich Thomas

How much you want for it?

--R

On 2/19/12 5:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
I am cleaning the basement.  I have a Scott Machine Development Model 
SM100 router pantograph I need to sell.  It was designed for the two 
color plastic signs/nametags, but could be used for other things.  I 
have the 2:1 pantograph and the edger, along with several extra bits, 
and a spare motor.  Anybody interested in a deal before it goes to 
fleabay?


See http://www.scottmachine.com/prod01.htm for pictures.

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Re: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
I want to flush the system.

Dan

On Feb 20, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Depends on what you're doing I think. In some cases you might not have to 
 bleed the system at all. I did the calipers on my '03 Ford Ranger (with ABS) 
 and didn't need to do more than a normal bleed, pump the pedal and open the 
 bleeder.
 
 I talked to a guy about it and he said as long as the reservoir never went 
 dry the ABS would also never go dry and no special bleeding would be required.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:59:26 -0500
 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
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 Subject: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding
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 Because its been too long since I have done this, I have to ask:
 
 Can you vacuum bleed, using a MityVac, an ABS system?
 
 I may have a pressure bleeder available, but if not, I do have a MityVac with 
 a bleeder jar.
 
 TIA,
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread clay monroe
Yeah, I see a few w107 around Seattle that the owner is enamored of his ride 
far exceeding the condition of the car.  Hard to tell based on wear and body 
that it really is worth $9k and not $4k as the others I look at.



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On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Craig wrote:

 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:07:50 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 I would much prefer that over the V8.  He thinks well of his car. Maybe
 florida cars are worth $2k more than the models up here in PNW.
 
 It depends upon where the cars have been. The warm salt air certainly
 causes rust in places where it's never seen in other locales.
 
 
 Craig
 
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[MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?

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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Canfield
Shoe Goo.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
 falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
 slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
 way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
 where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?

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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Shoe goo and it'll never come off again. BTW, sorry we didn't get together last 
week. G had me very busy fixing his house!

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On Feb 20, 2012, at 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?

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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Keep in mind you want to take it off when you need to access the climate
control panel for service.  Don't glue it!

Small pieces of a thin double stick tape should do it and you should be
able to pull it off when the time comes.

Jaime

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote:

 Shoe Goo.

 Mike
 On Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
  falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
  slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
  way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
  where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
This is pretty common as the wood ages and the substrate it's on moves around.

You have a couple of ways to deal with it:

Double sided tape, which, if you get the thin stuff, works pretty well and is 
reversible.

Flaring the pin a little to get it to fit tightly in the hole on the ACC panel. 
 You can do this several ways, the easiest being a cut into the pin with a 
razor knife - you're not trying to cut through it, just down a little ways to 
split the pin, and as a result, increasing the diameter slightly.

Usually these become sort of concave and once side stays down while the other 
pops out.

Dan


On Feb 20, 2012, at 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
 falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
 slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
 way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
 where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Canfield
I don't mean gob on the glue.  Just a dot or two should be plenty and still
allow removal.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 6:04 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Keep in mind you want to take it off when you need to access the climate
 control panel for service.  Don't glue it!

 Small pieces of a thin double stick tape should do it and you should be
 able to pull it off when the time comes.

 Jaime

 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Shoe Goo.
 
  Mike
  On Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
   falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
   slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
   way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
   where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?
  
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[MBZ] Finally some news on the 240D

2012-02-20 Thread Kevin Kraly
I was finally able to get in touch with the owner of that 240D down the street 
from me.  It’s a 1977 with 200K+ on the clock.  He will sell it for $750 which 
seems fair.  The car was a runner before the owner moved south to Eugene and 
left the car at Mom’s place.  He used to commute from Hillsboro with no 
problems, but he’s been bicycling to work since he’s so close.  He has his 
receipts as well as maintenance records going back 10 years from the previous 
owner.  He has $2K into the car, but would rather sell it to someone who’ll use 
it than have it sit there unused.  I have my suspitions that either it’s not a 
‘77 or the engine/tranny have been swapped since it has the vacuum modulation 
setup rather than strictly mechanical linkages.  He doesn’t recall ever doing a 
valve adjustment, so that would be the first order of business.  He invited me 
to go over and fiddle with it this Saturday to see if I can get it running.  It 
seems like a fun project and a great way to get back into Mercedes Diesels 
again!

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Rolf
I used the plastic double sided tape that comes with the window 
insulating kits. Works like a champ for years now. Very very hard bumps 
will still throw it off but it is quit rare.


-Rolf


On 2/20/2012 6:04 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Keep in mind you want to take it off when you need to access the climate
control panel for service.  Don't glue it!

Small pieces of a thin double stick tape should do it and you should be
able to pull it off when the time comes.

Jaime

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.comwrote:


Shoe Goo.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogelastrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:


The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?

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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Rich Thomas
You can get the thin carpet tape or those 3M picture hanger sticky 
squares that are a bit thicker and have a foam middle.  Both hold quite 
tightly.


--R

On 2/20/12 6:29 PM, Rolf wrote:
I used the plastic double sided tape that comes with the window 
insulating kits. Works like a champ for years now. Very very hard 
bumps will still throw it off but it is quit rare.


-Rolf


On 2/20/2012 6:04 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Keep in mind you want to take it off when you need to access the climate
control panel for service.  Don't glue it!

Small pieces of a thin double stick tape should do it and you should be
able to pull it off when the time comes.

Jaime



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[MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
As I perused the Craigslist listings for MBs yesterday, I was amazed at the 
huge number of 600 series cars (with V12s) on the market, and as one might 
expect, cheap relatively speaking.

I can't help but wonder if it is cheaper to just buy a couple of them and use 
one for parts when the other breaks.

Are these things such maintenance and operational nightmares that most are 
falling by the side of the road, or is it possible to have one and not have it 
eat you out of house and home trying to maintain it?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Finally some news on the 240D

2012-02-20 Thread Craig
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:24:47 -0800 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net
wrote:

 He invited me to go over and fiddle with it this Saturday to see if I
 can get it running.  It seems like a fun project and a great way to get
 back into Mercedes Diesels again!

We wish you success!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finally some news on the 240D

2012-02-20 Thread Rolf
They are all great projects to get into. It's getting out still married and 
with a bank account in good standing that is the hard part.
-- 
please excuse the delay in response, I had to wait for the tape to rewind on my 
commodore 64.

Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:24:47 -0800 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net
wrote:

 He invited me to go over and fiddle with it this Saturday to see if I
 can get it running. It seems like a fun project and a great way to get
 back into Mercedes Diesels again!

We wish you success!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I've always been intrigued but also scared of the 600s.

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On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

As I perused the Craigslist listings for MBs yesterday, I was amazed at the 
huge number of 600 series cars (with V12s) on the market, and as one might 
expect, cheap relatively speaking.

I can't help but wonder if it is cheaper to just buy a couple of them and use 
one for parts when the other breaks.

Are these things such maintenance and operational nightmares that most are 
falling by the side of the road, or is it possible to have one and not have it 
eat you out of house and home trying to maintain it?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Oooops! Don't glue it then! Glue the rest of the wood.

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On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

Keep in mind you want to take it off when you need to access the climate
control panel for service.  Don't glue it!

Small pieces of a thin double stick tape should do it and you should be
able to pull it off when the time comes.

Jaime

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote:

Shoe Goo.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:

The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?

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Re: [MBZ] Finally some news on the 240D

2012-02-20 Thread Mike Esh
Very exciting!  I envy you.
Mike


Michael E. Esh


On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:

 I was finally able to get in touch with the owner of that 240D down the 
 street from me.  It’s a 1977 with 200K+ on the clock.  He will sell it for 
 $750 which seems fair.  The car was a runner before the owner moved south to 
 Eugene and left the car at Mom’s place.  He used to commute from Hillsboro 
 with no problems, but he’s been bicycling to work since he’s so close.  He 
 has his receipts as well as maintenance records going back 10 years from the 
 previous owner.  He has $2K into the car, but would rather sell it to someone 
 who’ll use it than have it sit there unused.  I have my suspitions that 
 either it’s not a ‘77 or the engine/tranny have been swapped since it has the 
 vacuum modulation setup rather than strictly mechanical linkages.  He doesn’t 
 recall ever doing a valve adjustment, so that would be the first order of 
 business.  He invited me to go over and fiddle with it this Saturday to see 
 if I can get it running.  It seems like a fun project and a great way to get 
 back into Mercedes Diesels again!
 
 Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding

2012-02-20 Thread Tony Wirtel
 Subject: [MBZ] ABS Brake Bleeding
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 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

 Because its been too long since I have done this, I have to ask:

 Can you vacuum bleed, using a MityVac, an ABS system?

 I may have a pressure bleeder available, but if not, I do have a MityVac
 with a bleeder jar.

 TIA,

 Dan


Dan,

You want a pressure bleeder set to about 30 PSI- be careful to cover the
reservoir in case the grommets let go (but if on the 300e those should be
newer- MC was replaced not too long before I got the car).  Also get the
bleed nipple at the pump!

Tony Wirtel
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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread Dave Cavner
I believe on a W123 wagon, the wood is attached to a metal piece which then 
plugs into the dash with 4 nubs.  The wood in question typically curves up at 
the edges while the metal piece remains flat. I've pulled it off the metal 
backing and let it sit under weight for a few weeks with a bit of success. 
Perhaps steam would help even more?

If this is what you are talking about, re-gluing it to the metal should be 
fine. It's still removable. My personal archives have a recommendation for 3M 
weather striping adhesive following the directions to the letter (glue both 
items to be bonded and wait).

My neighbor is a lifelong glass installer - he recommended a clear silicone 
which I've had great success with. CR Laurence Silicone Sealant #33S. He's used 
it with glass inserts on warped kitchen doors and it will straighten them back 
to square. He also uses it to hang vanity wall mirrors - the stuff is super 
strong but doesn't bleed through the mirror backing. I love watching him put 
down a bead around a window perimeter - the finished job looks like a machine 
did the work. He's tried lots of caulk in his 30+ years and this is the only 
stuff he uses anymore. I'm a convert.

Dave


On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 On Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
 falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
 slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
 way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
 where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?


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[MBZ] Dang this looks nice

2012-02-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/2862027151.html

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Re: [MBZ] Dang this looks nice

2012-02-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yep, I'd jump on that!

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108

2012-02-20 Thread LarryT
Yep, I feel the same way - spotted one from a mile off a few days ago, 
turned around and followed it for a bit admiring the lines.  I owned 2 
W108s and both had their pro's and cons.  One was a 69 280S and the 
other a 72 280SE 4.5 - the 1st was reliable and got decent mileage - it 
was our family cars for many years.  The 280SE 4.5 was a dream to drive 
especially on the interstate - it was designed to chew up continents 
with ease and it did so wonderfully - unfortunately, stopping at the gas 
station was not as much Joy!  15MPG on a good day and it was such a 
pleasure to hear that 4.5 roar it was  so tempting to hit the fast pedal 
at every opportunity!  --  Which made the MPG suffer even more


LarryT
91 300D 2.5

On 8/14/2011 11:11 PM, Ed Booher wrote:

Even with a W110 in the garage and a W123 in the drive, I still find myself
lusting after the W108. *sigh* There is just something about the W108's
lines that draws me to it like a moth to a flamethrower.

EdB

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu  wrote:


This just popped up locally.

http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2529563809.html

Hard to tell from these photos, but looks like it might be reasonably
solid.

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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread Craig
On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 As I perused the Craigslist listings for MBs yesterday, I was amazed at
 the huge number of 600 series cars (with V12s) on the market, and as
 one might expect, cheap relatively speaking.

Your subject says, Dearth, which means few, but your text says, huge
number.

In any event, the only thing I have heard about them is to stay away.


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Re: [MBZ] Dang this looks nice

2012-02-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
A little too expensive

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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
It's late, my brain hurts, and I knocked this off in a hurry as I had to got to 
an HOA board meeting I really didn't want to go to...

Arrgh.

Dan


On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Craig wrote:

 On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 As I perused the Craigslist listings for MBs yesterday, I was amazed at
 the huge number of 600 series cars (with V12s) on the market, and as
 one might expect, cheap relatively speaking.
 
 Your subject says, Dearth, which means few, but your text says, huge
 number.
 
 In any event, the only thing I have heard about them is to stay away.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wood keeps falling off W123 dash

2012-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
The wood is perfect yet slightly warped and I don't want to risk
damaging the finish.  These are some great suggestions, but I like
most the idea of scoring the nubs with a razor.  On my 1985 300TD, the
PO used the thick double-sides foam tape to glue the wood on, and when
I needed to remove the piece to swap the ACC module i practically had
to use a crowbar to get it off!  This of course trashed the wood
(which had no metal  backing anyway) but as I packrat spare W23 parts
I had a wood piece waiting just for this occasion.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe on a W123 wagon, the wood is attached to a metal piece which then 
 plugs into the dash with 4 nubs.  The wood in question typically curves up at 
 the edges while the metal piece remains flat. I've pulled it off the metal 
 backing and let it sit under weight for a few weeks with a bit of success. 
 Perhaps steam would help even more?

 If this is what you are talking about, re-gluing it to the metal should be 
 fine. It's still removable. My personal archives have a recommendation for 3M 
 weather striping adhesive following the directions to the letter (glue both 
 items to be bonded and wait).

 My neighbor is a lifelong glass installer - he recommended a clear silicone 
 which I've had great success with. CR Laurence Silicone Sealant #33S. He's 
 used it with glass inserts on warped kitchen doors and it will straighten 
 them back to square. He also uses it to hang vanity wall mirrors - the stuff 
 is super strong but doesn't bleed through the mirror backing. I love watching 
 him put down a bead around a window perimeter - the finished job looks like a 
 machine did the work. He's tried lots of caulk in his 30+ years and this is 
 the only stuff he uses anymore. I'm a convert.

 Dave


 On Feb 20, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

 On Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The ACC wood veneer surrounding the ACC module on her 1985 300CD keeps
 falling off whenever we go over a bump because the zebrano is ever so
 slightly warped.  I realize I can't un-warp it, bur is there a clever
 way to maybe add a little something to the holes on the plastic piece
 where the wood snaps into place so as to make it fit more snugly?


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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
The concept of having a spare  600 is great but the actuality of
diagnosing problems and r/r a sophisticated electronic part is way
beyond  my capability.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It's late, my brain hurts, and I knocked this off in a hurry as I had to got 
 to an HOA board meeting I really didn't want to go to...

 Arrgh.

 Dan


 On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Craig wrote:

 On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 As I perused the Craigslist listings for MBs yesterday, I was amazed at
 the huge number of 600 series cars (with V12s) on the market, and as
 one might expect, cheap relatively speaking.

 Your subject says, Dearth, which means few, but your text says, huge
 number.

 In any event, the only thing I have heard about them is to stay away.


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[MBZ] HOA Board Meetings [was: Re: Dearth of 600s]

2012-02-20 Thread Craig
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:29:17 -0500 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It's late, my brain hurts, and I knocked this off in a hurry as I had
 to got to an HOA board meeting I really didn't want to go to...

 Arrgh.

So how did the board meeting turn out? What were your dealings with the
board?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread E M
The old rule probably applies, as it does with most things.  If you have
two of them, and therefore a supply of all the spares you'll ever need, it
will probably never fail you.  The danger zone, is the time period between
your purchase of the first 600, and waiting for the second spare one to
come along. The first one will come easy, and all of a sudden, all those
cheap 600 one the market you plan to buy as a spare, will be no where to be
seen.  THAT's when your car will go boom, and you'll have to remortgage the
house to fix it, or figure out how to stick an old diesel engine in it. hee
hee.

Ed
300E...I keep telling myself I have half a V12.  ;-)

On 20 February 2012 22:41, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 The concept of having a spare  600 is great but the actuality of
 diagnosing problems and r/r a sophisticated electronic part is way
 beyond  my capability.

 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
  It's late, my brain hurts, and I knocked this off in a hurry as I had to
 got to an HOA board meeting I really didn't want to go to...
 
  Arrgh.
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Craig wrote:
 
  On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  As I perused the Craigslist listings for MBs yesterday, I was amazed at
  the huge number of 600 series cars (with V12s) on the market, and as
  one might expect, cheap relatively speaking.
 
  Your subject says, Dearth, which means few, but your text says, huge
  number.
 
  In any event, the only thing I have heard about them is to stay away.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] HOA Board Meetings [was: Re: Dearth of 600s]

2012-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff
I am the VP/treasurer for my HOA. This was a casual meeting with the board of 
the adjacent neighborhood's HOA (my former neighborhood.)

We have a shared park that is a real PITA due to constant vandalism. We are 
trying to come up with a plan to make it useful to residents without having to 
level every damned thing in it to prevent damage from vandalism.

Tomorrow night it's a School Board meeting. Thank goodness it's a Student Forum 
- no business, just QA for students and the Board.

We have some seriously contentious issues going on right now between some of 
the public and the Board that has required some serious security measures. 
Totally stupid, but something I will elaborate on tomorrow. I gotta get some 
sleep

Dan

On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:29:17 -0500 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 It's late, my brain hurts, and I knocked this off in a hurry as I had
 to got to an HOA board meeting I really didn't want to go to...
 
 Arrgh.
 
 So how did the board meeting turn out? What were your dealings with the
 board?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread Craig
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:52:38 -0500 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 The old rule probably applies, as it does with most things.  If you have
 two of them, and therefore a supply of all the spares you'll ever need,
 it will probably never fail you.  The danger zone, is the time period
 between your purchase of the first 600, and waiting for the second
 spare one to come along. The first one will come easy, and all of a
 sudden, all those cheap 600 one the market you plan to buy as a spare,
 will be no where to be seen.  THAT's when your car will go boom, and
 you'll have to remortgage the house to fix it, or figure out how to
 stick an old diesel engine in it. hee hee.

Of course, if there's a design flaw and certain expensive parts fail
regularly, having only a second 600 as a parts supply would be
insufficient, serving only to delay the time when you really need to pay
the piper.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone interested in a router pantograph?

2012-02-20 Thread Dieselhead
This one is going for a lot less than that.  It needs a few small 
parts, and I called the company and about $40 will make it complete. 
I will order the parts soon, then make it purty.


If I had free time, it would be fun to take it out to fairs/shows and 
sell nameplates, pet tags etc.  But I need to just get it sold.




I can't seem to find a price for your specific model but I found the 100
series selling for $1600.

Mike
On Feb 19, 2012 10:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 Holy moly, that first one looks like it was built on a Bridgeport mill.
 The second one is similar to the one I have.  The Scott is direct drive,
 no belts. I will sell mine for substantially under 750.
 The third one is a beast too.  The fonts make it the buy to me.

 Unfortunately, I did not get any of the fonts with mine.  I made
 nameplates and such on it when I was 21 or so.  If I had fonts, I would
 have set up my kids as signmakers when they were in school.





  Dieselhead wrote:



 It is heavy enough that it does not need to be bolted down to use. I
 suppose there is 20 lb of aluminum.  Overall, probably 30-40 lb.



 Oh, I thought you were talking about something like this:

 http://search.ebay.com/**200710737588http://search.ebay.com/200710737588

 I ran nameplates on one of these the summer I was 20, never would have
 guessed it weighed less than 100lb:
 http://search.ebay.com/**280673632683http://search.ebay.com/280673632683

 Did some big signs on one of these, the head wasn't level to the table so
 I learned to vary the cutting depth to match the high and low areas of the
 table.
 Would have been easier if my employers would have gotten it set up
 properly in the first place.

 http://search.ebay.com/**320846082426http://search.ebay.com/320846082426

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread Dieselhead
No thanks.  I prefaced that with if I wanted a 107.  I don't and it 
is out of my price range.


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 280SL?

2012-02-20 Thread Dieselhead

I really think it depends on where you live.

I say that because I have two cars, one that lived in Florida all of 
its life, the other all but two years (those were spent in Indiana.)


The car that has lived here all of its life has no signs of surface 
rust anywhere to be seen, and I am talking about the undercarriage 
and other areas that would be clearly visible and exposed to the 
elements.


The car that started here, spent two years in Indy and is now back 
here shows surface rust on the undercarriage in a number of areas.


I bought a 1982 300SD that was in a carport 30 feet from the Gulf 
for over 10 years. It had one area of rust in a wheel well arch but 
was otherwise untouched.


I guess my point is that just because you live near the ocean or 
saltwater is not a precursor for rust.


Dan


Windward or leeward makes a big difference.  I had a car a mile from 
the ocean, but the salt spray blew in regularly.  It rusted in the 
roof and front pillars.


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[MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question

2012-02-20 Thread Kevin Kraly
I have a friend who’s having an issue with her dearly beloved 1985 190E 2.3.  
There’s a hole in the air intake hose which is throwing off the mixture.  Her 
mechanic quoted hundreds of dollars to fix it, so she approached me today 
asking if I would fix it for less.  I wanted to bounce this off you guys for 
any gotchas before jumping in.  I haven’t looked it to see what has to be 
removed to get to the offending hose.  It sounds like a challenge for me, and 
an opportunity to make a few bucks to put into my own project 240D.  Anyone 
BTDT?

TIA,



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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread E M
Of course, this same argument could be use before the wife, to justify the
acquisition of a third 600. ;-) hee hee.

To be honest, while a 600 will never be a cheap car to run, I wouldn't be
put off one, anymore than other car of similar complexity.  Also, I think
it's true that when a car fails, you'll let all your friends, and pretty
much anyone who will listen know about it.  But when a car functions as we
all expect them to, no mention is ever made of it.  Human nature.

All cars have their flaws and weaknesses.  A $200,000 car is no different,
but when parts fail, expect to pay for those model specific parts, a price
that is in line with a $200,000 car, not its depreciated price, whatever
that may be.  You can pick up old 6.9s for a few thousand dollars, but no
one expects to pay 240D prices for 6.9 engine parts.

A 600 is a top of the line car, from a car company who's entry level models
are quite expensive.  I wouldn't worry about a V12 going bang every time
you drive it, but if that's something anyone would worry about, then it's
probably not the right car for them.  If for no other reason than it would
take away from the pleasure of owning it.  And as no one needs a V12,
pleasure and pride of ownership are a big part of the experience.

A bit of advise I always give to friends when thinking about buying an
expensive car.  Don't drive what you think you can afford to drive.  Drive
what you can afford to crash and blow up.  ;-)

That's my take on big expensive cars anyway.  :-)

Ed
300E
300E

On 20 February 2012 23:27, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:52:38 -0500 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  The old rule probably applies, as it does with most things.  If you have
  two of them, and therefore a supply of all the spares you'll ever need,
  it will probably never fail you.  The danger zone, is the time period
  between your purchase of the first 600, and waiting for the second
  spare one to come along. The first one will come easy, and all of a
  sudden, all those cheap 600 one the market you plan to buy as a spare,
  will be no where to be seen.  THAT's when your car will go boom, and
  you'll have to remortgage the house to fix it, or figure out how to
  stick an old diesel engine in it. hee hee.

 Of course, if there's a design flaw and certain expensive parts fail
 regularly, having only a second 600 as a parts supply would be
 insufficient, serving only to delay the time when you really need to pay
 the piper.


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Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question

2012-02-20 Thread E M
I'd find out exactly what has the hole in it, and get a quote from Rusty
for a new part/s.  Doesn't sound like changing an air hose would be a big
deal.  If you have to reset the mixture and stuff, that's something others
on the list would have to offer pointers on.

If it's a car she loves, and sounds like it is, she should maybe think
about changing several of the other hoses if they are original.  Sometimes
it's best just to change all those things at once.  I did a lot of the
rubber hoses at once on the 300E, and Rusty charged me about the same for 6
hoses, or less, than the dealer wanted for one.  Cheap insurance, and being
an '85, there are probably lots of rubber and plastic bits that are now
quite fragile.  And, if you have to remove old brittle parts to get to the
part you need, you run the risk of damaging them.  Might just as well
reassemble with new fresh parts that you, and she can trust.

All it takes is a small leak in an old dry coolant hose to leave you
stranded.  Ask me how I know.  hee hee.

Ed
300E

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 I have a friend who’s having an issue with her dearly beloved 1985 190E
 2.3.  There’s a hole in the air intake hose which is throwing off the
 mixture.  Her mechanic quoted hundreds of dollars to fix it, so she
 approached me today asking if I would fix it for less.  I wanted to bounce
 this off you guys for any gotchas before jumping in.  I haven’t looked it
 to see what has to be removed to get to the offending hose.  It sounds like
 a challenge for me, and an opportunity to make a few bucks to put into my
 own project 240D.  Anyone BTDT?

 TIA,



 Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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