Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson

2012-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:
Only if he can take the bike into his living accommodations.  Fancy 
bikes are stolen at a rate of 1 near 100% if locked  up outside.  THe 
other alternitive is to get the ugliest 20-50 year old cheap bike he can 
fine.  Monkey wards or some no-name.  1 speed to 5 speed might not get 
stolen.


Champaign, IL isn't quite DC, but what I did there was pick a halfway decent 
Ross 10sp out of the pile behind the dumpster at my apartment building, put a 
spare pair of my (more than decent) wheels on it, removed both derailleurs so it 
was a single speed with freewheel (and a lot of extra sprockets), and never 
locked it the whole year I lived there. Oh, and when I was fixing it up I 
painted it with three different colors of leftover spray paint. Masked off the 
rims (to keep paint off the 'brake disks') and make sure to get lots of paint on 
the tires.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] 928

2012-05-29 Thread Larry T
IMO the reason for low re-sale pricing for 928s is the _/*very 
*/_expensive repair costs for a very complex engine that requires 
specialized knowledge (i am told).  Along with the engine there are 
ancillary systems that can be difficult to maintain.


David is right about the 928 beubg called the ultimate GT car for 
covering vast distances quickly in comfort -


I'd love to have one if I had a good source for parts

LarryT
74 911

On 5/28/2012 9:44 PM, David  Kristin Gilmore wrote:

At 01:09 AM 5/28/2012, Alex wrote:


Why all the disdain among Porsche fans for the 928?  This is a car that
period reviews called the best GT ever, indescribably better than its
competition.  Yet the things now are routinely seen for sale for under
$5000, sometimes way under, for an early example.  None of the other
watercooled cars--944, 924S, even the 924-- goes that cheap.


 The couple of 928s I drove felt heavy and tank like compared to 
the 924S I was driving at the time.  I have been told that is because 
I was not going fast enough - that the 928 was designed for 100+ mph 
on the German freeways.  They say the last of them, the GTS model of 
early 90s, is the one to have.


 The 928 shape suggests a shark to its fans, a toad to its 
critics.  I think it was just too big a chew for the 911 people who  
were fixated on the air cooled rear engine.  And Porsche never 
promoted the 928 for racing which might have given it more of a 
following.  And humbled some 911s.


 If I wanted performance I would go for a 944 turbo.  Otherwise a 
968.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 You are the activity of your neurons.

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Re: [MBZ] 560SEL mileage

2012-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I would guess in the mid teens if you're not heavy footed with it.

Dan

On May 29, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3031768502.html
 
 Just saw this and am really tempted.  I assume it needs new SLS spheres and
 maybe a new pump, both of which I have (bought for the POS Euro 500SEL
 before I got tired of it and started parting it out).
 
 What kind of mileage am I going to get from this thing, realistically?  My
 commute is mostly 30-50 mph country roads, 25 miles each way.
 
 Alex Chamberlain
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 Sent from my Android phone.  Please excuse brevity and typos.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 115 300D mileage

2012-05-29 Thread Curt Raymond
And such is the wonder of the turbocharger...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:21:02 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 300D mileage
Message-ID: 4fc4166e.7000...@voyager.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Randy Bennell wrote:
 Drove my car to the lake and back on each of the past 2 weekends. 326 
 miles round trip. Some 4 lane and some 2 lane. 65-75 mph on 4 lane and 
 about 60 mph on 2 lane.
 Did 28 mpg imp and about 23+ mpg US - on the first trip. Have yet to 
 take it to be filled for the 2nd trip.
 Raining both times and a bit cool. Will likely do better come warmer 
 summer weather.
 Runs good and uses no oil. Not bad for a 36 year old car.

My W116 300sd does about 28 mpg US if you run a whole tank through it in one 
day.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Where to mount a cup holder?

2012-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley

Brian Toscano wrote:

The Germans would probably say if you have to be in the car long enough to
need a beverage, you should be on a plane instead.



And when they finally gave up and decided that cupholders sell cars in USA, they 
gave the 210 chassis an overengineered masterpiece of a front cupholder complete 
with pneumatic controlled deployment so it doesn't crudely slam open. The third 
seat drink holders in the S210 are pretty nice too.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Where to mount a cup holder?

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
You mean the drink launcher, which insures steady demand for AAC boxes, radios 
and shifter assemblies?

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On May 29, 2012, at 7:47, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Brian Toscano wrote:
 The Germans would probably say if you have to be in the car long enough to
 need a beverage, you should be on a plane instead.
 
 
 And when they finally gave up and decided that cupholders sell cars in USA, 
 they gave the 210 chassis an overengineered masterpiece of a front cupholder 
 complete with pneumatic controlled deployment so it doesn't crudely slam 
 open. The third seat drink holders in the S210 are pretty nice too.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson

2012-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas

My son is in Georgetown, might know of a room for the summer.

--R

On 5/28/12 9:12 PM, WILTON wrote:

Any suggestions, Andrew?

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson



On 27/05/2012 6:57 PM, WILTON wrote:

'Don't know where he's staying yet.
We thought he has an apt, but the ad for it may be scam - looks too 
good, rent too good, etc.,


Wilton




Andrew lives in DC. Maybe he has a spare bedroom for the summer? And 
a parking spot?

Must love cats.

Randy

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[MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

2012-05-29 Thread rogerhga
Kaleb, 
In Georgia, Comcast runs Speedtest.net. Another company used to do it and then 
suddenly it was Comcast. The ping number you list is extremely slow. My pings 
when tested are 4-11ms. I pay Comcast for 12 mb download speed, but 
Speedtest.net shows between 21-24 mb with around 3.5 mb upload speed. I use a 
Comcast cable modem (Motorola) and a Linksys router (N plus wireless). 
Just some comparison info. 
Best Wishes, 

Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
Bikes aren't allowed on metro during peak commute hours UNLESS they fold.

Theres also capital bikeshare...

But I see lots of peeps bringing folders on the MARC train, and a few on the 
Metro.

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On May 27, 2012, at 19:06, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Save the car, get a 21 speed.
 
 It has been said a pedal bike can get across DC quicker than a car can.
 
 They also take up less storage space than the car. ;)
 
 Walt
 On May 27, 2012 7:01 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 # 1 grndson finished his junior year in college in France few days ago.
 Since then, he's been to Milan, Vilnius, Lithuania (Russian female friend
 from Moscow met him there for weekend), Kiev, Ukraine, and day trips to
 Cannes Film Festival and Monaco Grand Prix.  I told 'im, again, By the
 time I was your age, I had been all the way to Raleigh on a bus.  He'll be
 coming home Thurs., 31st; 'reporting immediately to work as summer intern
 at Afghan Embassy in DC.  'Says he'll be glad to get back to Chapel Hill
 for senior year at UNC-CH.
 
 BTW, should he take his car ('85 BMW 318i) to DC?  I'm thinking probably
 not.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
That latency just screams satellite.

High bandwidth-delay product (High speed high latency) connections can be very 
inefficient of they aren't 100% error free.

There's an old saw about it being tough to beat the bandwidth of a station 
wagon full of tapes... I'd guess your current MTU would be in the multi-exabyte 
range... But then the latency is a killer.  And one bum tape in the middle of 
the batch and (according to the TCP specs, without selective retransmission), 
you'd have to dump the whole load, send a station wagon back the other way and 
then wait for a new station wagon of tapes to be sent...

With latency that high the best you can do is to try to keep the pipe at less 
than 80% utilization.


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On May 29, 2012, at 9:43, roger...@comcast.net wrote:

 Kaleb, 
 In Georgia, Comcast runs Speedtest.net. Another company used to do it and 
 then suddenly it was Comcast. The ping number you list is extremely slow. My 
 pings when tested are 4-11ms. I pay Comcast for 12 mb download speed, but 
 Speedtest.net shows between 21-24 mb with around 3.5 mb upload speed. I use a 
 Comcast cable modem (Motorola) and a Linksys router (N plus wireless). 
 Just some comparison info. 
 Best Wishes, 
 
 Roger Hale 
 Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
 Monroe, Ga. 
 770-267-0850 
 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
 www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
Umm forget VoIP and two way video. It really starts breaking up at 250ms, 
largely because of the effect that the pause cues get fouled up and both ends 
start talking at the same time.

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On May 29, 2012, at 0:45, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 And weird oddities with voip/video conferencing as well.
 
 Sure beats the alternative of dialup though! Bee booop de der de durrr
 SCRE KSHHHSHSHSHHSHSHHSHSH...
 
 Walt
 On May 29, 2012 12:42 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
 On Tue, 29 May 2012 00:22:01 -0400 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 .73 second ping.
 
 Ouch.
 
 No on-line role-playing games. Some annoyance when using banking sites
 and others that take a lot of going back-and-forth.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 dash removal tips

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
All the same sizes as oxygen tanks. I think they have them as small as 20 or 40 
ft3...

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On May 28, 2012, at 17:23, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How big of a tank and how much does it cost?
 
 Dan
 
 On May 28, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Basically you buy the nitrogen tank and when it gets empty you take it back
 for an exchange.  They don't refill the tank you bring back, they just
 give you another of the same size
 
 
 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Brian Toscano 
 brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 You can get the nitrogen cylinder/pressure regulator from any welding
 shop.  I can't remember if I even needed an adapter to connect it to
 manifold gauges.  Having the nitrogen is also nice as a portable air source
 if you need to air up tires farther than your air compressor hose will
 reach
 
 
 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 On May 28, 2012 7:41 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would normally just put in about 300 psi and watch and the gauge.  If
 it
 drops, there's a leak.
 
 
 Where do you get the nitrogen and the right fittings to connect it to the
 A/C gauge set?
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
MIME - Multiple Infections for Most Everybody :P

(I'm a cranky CLI type. I use GUI as a multiplexer ;)

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On May 28, 2012, at 11:50, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On May 28, 2012 8:44 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 For whatever reason, this 'Active View'
 feature wreaks havoc on MIME
 multipart messages;
 
 MIME has been a standard for twenty years or so.  Stupid Microsoft.
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

2012-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas

Probably does not affect his primary web viewing choices.

--R

On 5/29/12 10:02 AM, John Reames wrote:

That latency just screams satellite.

High bandwidth-delay product (High speed high latency) connections can be very 
inefficient of they aren't 100% error free.

There's an old saw about it being tough to beat the bandwidth of a station 
wagon full of tapes... I'd guess your current MTU would be in the multi-exabyte 
range... But then the latency is a killer.  And one bum tape in the middle of 
the batch and (according to the TCP specs, without selective retransmission), 
you'd have to dump the whole load, send a station wagon back the other way and 
then wait for a new station wagon of tapes to be sent...

With latency that high the best you can do is to try to keep the pipe at less 
than 80% utilization.


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On May 29, 2012, at 9:43, roger...@comcast.net wrote:


Kaleb,
In Georgia, Comcast runs Speedtest.net. Another company used to do it and then 
suddenly it was Comcast. The ping number you list is extremely slow. My pings 
when tested are 4-11ms. I pay Comcast for 12 mb download speed, but 
Speedtest.net shows between 21-24 mb with around 3.5 mb upload speed. I use a 
Comcast cable modem (Motorola) and a Linksys router (N plus wireless).
Just some comparison info.
Best Wishes,

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new)
www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique)

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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

2012-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont do that anyway, but I saw where somebody did to VOIP on 
this system and it worked fine.


On 5/29/2012 9:05 AM, John Reames wrote:

Umm forget VoIP and two way video. It really starts breaking up at 250ms, largely because 
of the effect that the pause cues get fouled up and both ends start talking 
at the same time.

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On May 29, 2012, at 0:45, Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com  wrote:


And weird oddities with voip/video conferencing as well.

Sure beats the alternative of dialup though! Bee booop de der de durrr
SCRE KSHHHSHSHSHHSHSHHSHSH...

Walt
On May 29, 2012 12:42 AM, Craigdiese...@pisquared.net  wrote:


On Tue, 29 May 2012 00:22:01 -0400 Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com
wrote:


.73 second ping.

Ouch.

No on-line role-playing games. Some annoyance when using banking sites
and others that take a lot of going back-and-forth.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson

2012-05-29 Thread WILTON
Grndson's work place is near G'town (Afghan Embassy) - 24th and Wyoming. 
Any suggestions?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson



My son is in Georgetown, might know of a room for the summer.

--R

On 5/28/12 9:12 PM, WILTON wrote:

Any suggestions, Andrew?

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson



On 27/05/2012 6:57 PM, WILTON wrote:

'Don't know where he's staying yet.
We thought he has an apt, but the ad for it may be scam - looks too 
good, rent too good, etc.,


Wilton




Andrew lives in DC. Maybe he has a spare bedroom for the summer? And a 
parking spot?

Must love cats.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Where to mount a cup holder?

2012-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley

John Reames wrote:

You mean the drink launcher, which insures steady demand for AAC boxes, radios 
and shifter assemblies?


You saying that if I engage BAS with a can of Coke in the holder, it's going 
into the dash?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Kennys smoky finny

2012-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley

Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

I'd like to know why it has a jiffy lube oil change reminder on the
windshield...


My E320 came with a Valvoline Instant Oil Change sticker, Valvoline 5W30 
Synthetic written on it. Didn't take me long to dump that and fill it up with 
5w40 M1 Turbo Diesel Truck.


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Re: [MBZ] 115 300D mileage

2012-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell

On 28/05/2012 7:21 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Randy Bennell wrote:
Drove my car to the lake and back on each of the past 2 weekends. 326 
miles round trip. Some 4 lane and some 2 lane. 65-75 mph on 4 lane 
and about 60 mph on 2 lane.
Did 28 mpg imp and about 23+ mpg US - on the first trip. Have yet to 
take it to be filled for the 2nd trip.
Raining both times and a bit cool. Will likely do better come warmer 
summer weather.

Runs good and uses no oil. Not bad for a 36 year old car.


My W116 300sd does about 28 mpg US if you run a whole tank through it 
in one day.



Mitch.



Yes, I am certain everyone knows the following but will say it anyway.  
The turbo models are more efficient. My poor old normally aspirated 
engine has to work hard to run highway speeds. It does not appear to 
mind doing so but by current standards, it is not as fuel efficient as 
many others. In 1976, most North American cars were not making anywhere 
near 20+ mpg and diesel was much less expensive. It was a true economy 
car then.
Time has passed it by to a  great extent. My wife's Honda Accord is 
about the same size when parked next to it in the garage and has more 
power and makes better mileage and is quieter- at least in terms of 
engine noise.
I don't think that is true of chassis noise etc. I am truly amazed at 
how well the old car rides and handles on those skinny tires. I might 
enjoy the turbo if I had it but I am stuck as I really do not need 
another one and I do not wish to part with my current one. I need to win 
a lottery and buy more land and build a big garage to store more MB 
toys. I am sure I am not the only one with that dream.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Office chair

2012-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell

On 28/05/2012 7:50 PM, Craig wrote:

I recently got an office chair off freecycle and have found that the
pneumatic cylinder for height adjustment doesn't work very well.

Are these things repairable?

Thanks,


Craig

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I had a good quality chair that I used for many years. The same thing 
happened to it and I found I could not get parts because they had 
changed them and the new parts would not fit the old chair.
I was able to buy parts to make it into the older style with the big 
screw for height adjustment which worked fine as it was only me who used 
the chair and I did not need to change height after it was set.
I used it that way for a couple of years before I broke down and bought 
a new one.

The chair was perhaps a bit more wobbly on the screw but it was ok.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes

2012-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell


Now, now, be nice. Homely people can't help it.

Randy

On 26/05/2012 9:03 AM, WILTON wrote:
Now, where did I stow those barf bags?  Never can find 'em when I need 
'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gerry Archer 
arche...@embarqmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes


Personally, I think some of the ladies in this group are quite 
attractive, but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Office chair

2012-05-29 Thread WILTON
My office chair is a wooden 1920's or 30's, or so, swivel unit with center 
screw height adj.  'paid $8 for it in 1953, already well-used; works fine. 
'Even used my personal desk and chair in my Air Force office (civil 
engineer) 'bout 1975-'78.  Navy Seabee reservist chief used my office one 
weekend per month and propped his foot up on corner of lower left drawer 
wearing it down; 'wanted to kick his a$$ to the moon.


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Office chair



On 28/05/2012 7:50 PM, Craig wrote:

I recently got an office chair off freecycle and have found that the
pneumatic cylinder for height adjustment doesn't work very well.

Are these things repairable?

Thanks,


Craig

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You may be able to buy parts depending on the make, model and age.
I had a good quality chair that I used for many years. The same thing 
happened to it and I found I could not get parts because they had changed 
them and the new parts would not fit the old chair.
I was able to buy parts to make it into the older style with the big screw 
for height adjustment which worked fine as it was only me who used the 
chair and I did not need to change height after it was set.
I used it that way for a couple of years before I broke down and bought a 
new one.

The chair was perhaps a bit more wobbly on the screw but it was ok.

Randy

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[MBZ] OT: Office chair 2

2012-05-29 Thread Dieselhead
I am looking for the tilt/swivel mechanism for an antique oak rocking 
chair.  The one with the chair was broken, and someone hat 
tossed/lost the broken part.  I found I could buy a whole mechanism 
(lighter/flimsier) new for ~$100, but I didn't want to spend that 
much.  So if anyone has the swivel/tilt part with the screw height 
adjuster, I am ready to make a deal.


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Re: [MBZ] Where to mount a cup holder?

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
No, not quite that high. anything in the passenger side holder (as opposed to 
the narrow deep well that it goes into, which is just perfect for a can) will 
hit right about the AC controls, and run into them. You'll also get the radio 
buttons, and it will definitely douse the window switches and the shifter. 
(There IS a control unit, mainly a position sensor, in the shifter.)

--
John W Reames
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Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On May 29, 2012, at 10:40, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 John Reames wrote:
 You mean the drink launcher, which insures steady demand for AAC boxes, 
 radios and shifter assemblies?
 
 You saying that if I engage BAS with a can of Coke in the holder, it's going 
 into the dash?
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes

2012-05-29 Thread Gerry Archer

Pilots are connoisseurs of beautiful women.  Wilton can be forgiven.
Gerry

From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

Now, now, be nice. Homely people can't help it.
Randy

On 26/05/2012 9:03 AM, WILTON wrote:
Now, where did I stow those barf bags?  Never can find 'em when I need 
'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gerry Archer 
arche...@embarqmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes


Personally, I think some of the ladies in this group are quite 
attractive, but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes

2012-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell
Yes, I know. I was not trying to be mean. Was just reminding folks that 
big ugly women need some one to love them too.


Randy

On 29/05/2012 11:21 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:

Pilots are connoisseurs of beautiful women.  Wilton can be forgiven.
Gerry

From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

Now, now, be nice. Homely people can't help it.
Randy

On 26/05/2012 9:03 AM, WILTON wrote:
Now, where did I stow those barf bags?  Never can find 'em when I 
need 'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gerry Archer 
arche...@embarqmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes


Personally, I think some of the ladies in this group are quite 
attractive, but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes

2012-05-29 Thread WILTON

'May not be able to help my barfing, either.  ;)
BTW, spring of '75, I flew daughter on a '64 Cessna 182 from Soo, MI, to 
Greenville, NC, (East Caro. U) for a new student orientation.  Our low tour 
over the town before landing was a bit bouncy; just as I was flaring for the 
landing, daughter need barf bag; flared with left hand while fetching barf 
bag with right hand - not a good time for fetching, but we made it.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes




Now, now, be nice. Homely people can't help it.

Randy

On 26/05/2012 9:03 AM, WILTON wrote:
Now, where did I stow those barf bags?  Never can find 'em when I need 
'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gerry Archer 
arche...@embarqmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes


Personally, I think some of the ladies in this group are quite 
attractive, but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Office chair

2012-05-29 Thread Dieselhead
My office chair is a wooden 1920's or 30's, or so, swivel unit with 
center screw height adj.  'paid $8 for it in 1953, already 
well-used; works fine. 'Even used my personal desk and chair in my 
Air Force office (civil engineer) 'bout 1975-'78.  Navy Seabee 
reservist chief used my office one weekend per month and propped his 
foot up on corner of lower left drawer wearing it down; 'wanted to 
kick his a$$ to the moon.


Wilton


My old oak desk at home is from the building where George Washington 
Carver toiled as a grad student and faculty member, and is from about 
the same period.  I am trying to find the works (Tilt/swivel/screw) 
for a period oak chair to accompany it.  The desk has pencil notes 
inside as to the building and room number.  Had a bottle of blue ink 
spilled in one drawer, and the top was resurfaced, maybe in the 50s 
with the stuff they used to put on drawing boards.  I stripped and 
refinished it about 1996 or so.  Quirky desk.  Fits right in with old 
Diesels.  I think i carried it home in the Escort Diesel.  (Diesel 
content)


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Office chair

2012-05-29 Thread WILTON
My chair is oak; desk is mahogany, from some office in NYC, 'bought it in 
McAllen, TX, in 1960 for $100.
Some outfit in Brownsville, TX, had bought a bunch of salvaged office 
furniture in NYC and shipped it to Br'nsville.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Office chair


My office chair is a wooden 1920's or 30's, or so, swivel unit with 
center screw height adj.  'paid $8 for it in 1953, already well-used; 
works fine. 'Even used my personal desk and chair in my Air Force office 
(civil engineer) 'bout 1975-'78.  Navy Seabee reservist chief used my 
office one weekend per month and propped his foot up on corner of lower 
left drawer wearing it down; 'wanted to kick his a$$ to the moon.


Wilton


My old oak desk at home is from the building where George Washington 
Carver toiled as a grad student and faculty member, and is from about the 
same period.  I am trying to find the works (Tilt/swivel/screw) for a 
period oak chair to accompany it.  The desk has pencil notes inside as to 
the building and room number.  Had a bottle of blue ink spilled in one 
drawer, and the top was resurfaced, maybe in the 50s with the stuff they 
used to put on drawing boards.  I stripped and refinished it about 1996 or 
so.  Quirky desk.  Fits right in with old Diesels.  I think i carried it 
home in the Escort Diesel.  (Diesel content)


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Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes

2012-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Ain't them things got those winders that open up?  My buddy and I flew 
airplanes, I flew Pipers (fixed windows in the doors) and he flew Cessna 
150s, which had windows hinged at the top you could open for some 
breeze.  We would go out flying low and slow and holler at people on the 
ground, it was funny to watch them as they had no idea where the sound 
was coming from.  There was a golf course on final to the main runway at 
FWA, we would holler at the golfers as they were trying to take shots.  
It was all totally hilarious!


--R

On 5/29/12 12:26 PM, WILTON wrote:

'May not be able to help my barfing, either.  ;)
BTW, spring of '75, I flew daughter on a '64 Cessna 182 from Soo, MI, 
to Greenville, NC, (East Caro. U) for a new student orientation.  Our 
low tour over the town before landing was a bit bouncy; just as I was 
flaring for the landing, daughter need barf bag; flared with left hand 
while fetching barf bag with right hand - not a good time for 
fetching, but we made it.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes




Now, now, be nice. Homely people can't help it.

Randy

On 26/05/2012 9:03 AM, WILTON wrote:
Now, where did I stow those barf bags?  Never can find 'em when I 
need 'em.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gerry Archer 
arche...@embarqmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes


Personally, I think some of the ladies in this group are quite 
attractive, but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] synthetics

2012-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley

Larry T wrote:

Hello,
You mentioned the approved fleece filter in your comments about syn 
oil - which are Fleece?




With the Vee engines anyway, the fleece are the $15 filters that are good for 
10,000 miles. The regular $10 filters I don't believe are supposed to run all 
the way until the FSS tells you it's time for an oil change.


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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

2012-05-29 Thread Fmiser
 roger...@comcast.net wrote:

 In Georgia, Comcast runs Speedtest.net. Another company used
 to do it and then suddenly it was Comcast. The ping number you
 list is extremely slow. My pings when tested are 4-11ms.

The ping number is called latency.  With satellite, latency is
always very high because of the very long trip to the satellite
and back.  A geosync. orbit is about 22,000 miles up, so a round
trip is over 44,000 miles - approx the same as two complete
circles around the planet on the surface.  This results in a
delay of about 238 milliseconds just for the round trip.

This latency is the bane of geosynchronous satellite service -
but sometimes it's worth it.

--   Philip

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[MBZ] CL Idiots

2012-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas

Great ad http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/3038391209.html

Is this one a 560?
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/3042689896.html


   Just roll up to the back of that restaurant


   1986 Mercedes 190D/Vegetable Oil - $3300 (Johns Island) 
   http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3043536996.html





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Re: [MBZ] synthetics

2012-05-29 Thread John Freer
My I6 05 CDI had a fleece filter sticker only under the hood.
John
Sent from my iPad

On May 29, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Larry T wrote:
 Hello,
 You mentioned the approved fleece filter in your comments about syn oil - 
 which are Fleece?
 
 With the Vee engines anyway, the fleece are the $15 filters that are good for 
 10,000 miles. The regular $10 filters I don't believe are supposed to run all 
 the way until the FSS tells you it's time for an oil change.
 
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Re: [MBZ] CL Idiots

2012-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Southwestern Florida (Ft. Myers, Naples) is a used car Garden of Eden, mainly 
due to all the old money that winters there. If you were looking for a good low 
mileage high line vehicle this is your hunting grounds.

Dan

On May 29, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 Great ad http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/3038391209.html
 
 Is this one a 560?
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/3042689896.html
 
 
   Just roll up to the back of that restaurant
 
 
   1986 Mercedes 190D/Vegetable Oil - $3300 (Johns Island)
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3043536996.html
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Office chair

2012-05-29 Thread John Reames
I went the other way and got a used Aeron. 

I got it after I realized I had been sitting in one for 12 hours straight and 
didn't have a backache...

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On May 29, 2012, at 12:34, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 My chair is oak; desk is mahogany, from some office in NYC, 'bought it in 
 McAllen, TX, in 1960 for $100.
 Some outfit in Brownsville, TX, had bought a bunch of salvaged office 
 furniture in NYC and shipped it to Br'nsville.
 
 Wilton
 
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 My office chair is a wooden 1920's or 30's, or so, swivel unit with center 
 screw height adj.  'paid $8 for it in 1953, already well-used; works fine. 
 'Even used my personal desk and chair in my Air Force office (civil 
 engineer) 'bout 1975-'78.  Navy Seabee reservist chief used my office one 
 weekend per month and propped his foot up on corner of lower left drawer 
 wearing it down; 'wanted to kick his a$$ to the moon.
 
 Wilton
 
 My old oak desk at home is from the building where George Washington Carver 
 toiled as a grad student and faculty member, and is from about the same 
 period.  I am trying to find the works (Tilt/swivel/screw) for a period oak 
 chair to accompany it.  The desk has pencil notes inside as to the building 
 and room number.  Had a bottle of blue ink spilled in one drawer, and the 
 top was resurfaced, maybe in the 50s with the stuff they used to put on 
 drawing boards.  I stripped and refinished it about 1996 or so.  Quirky 
 desk.  Fits right in with old Diesels.  I think i carried it home in the 
 Escort Diesel.  (Diesel content)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

2012-05-29 Thread Tim C
On May 29, 2012 10:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 I dont do that anyway, but I saw where somebody did to VOIP on this
system and it worked fine.

Ping on my speed test results is all over the map.  You can always run a
few pings to live sites, especially if there is a data center in your area.

You would notice this kind of lag if you used VOIP regularly, it's like one
of the television announcers and the remote reporter: it works, but you
tend to interrupt each other when you want to switch sides.

Best,
Tim


 On 5/29/2012 9:05 AM, John Reames wrote:

 Umm forget VoIP and two way video. It really starts breaking up at
250ms, largely because of the effect that the pause cues get fouled up
and both ends start talking at the same time.

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 On May 29, 2012, at 0:45, Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com  wrote:

 And weird oddities with voip/video conferencing as well.

 Sure beats the alternative of dialup though! Bee booop de der de durrr
 SCRE KSHHHSHSHSHHSHSHHSHSH...

 Walt
 On May 29, 2012 12:42 AM, Craigdiese...@pisquared.net  wrote:

 On Tue, 29 May 2012 00:22:01 -0400 Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 .73 second ping.

 Ouch.

 No on-line role-playing games. Some annoyance when using banking sites
 and others that take a lot of going back-and-forth.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list

2012-05-29 Thread Tim C
On May 28, 2012 12:23 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 get around to fixing it at some point.

In time for Windows X, which will be based around a BSD kernel no doubt.

Best,
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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list

2012-05-29 Thread Craig
On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:51:36 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

 On May 28, 2012 12:23 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
  get around to fixing it at some point.
 
 In time for Windows X, which will be based around a BSD kernel no doubt.

And have the X Windows display system. :-)


Craig

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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedessource just uploaded a video

2012-05-29 Thread Rick Knoble
Hmmm. Weren't we just talking about this? I wonder if this Bergsma fellow is 
lurking here...

Rick
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[MBZ] Car For Donald Snook

2012-05-29 Thread Rick Knoble
Okay. It is a two door, which makes the toddler seat a pain. But it is a car 
worthy of a barrister, no?

http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3045080533.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedessource just uploaded a video

2012-05-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I actually really like his videos. I spent a whole weekend day watching them. 
The GF rolled her eyes. 

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Hmmm. Weren't we just talking about this? I wonder if this Bergsma fellow is 
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Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedessource just uploaded a video

2012-05-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Rusty should make some videos:)

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Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Car For Donald Snook

2012-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff
What is pristen?

Dan

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

Okay. It is a two door, which makes the toddler seat a pain. But it is a car 
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http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3045080533.html

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Re: [MBZ] Car For Donald Snook

2012-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I should add that I am a closet Caddy person. One of my early cars was a 
pristen 1962 Fleetwood that was truly a land yacht in every sense of the 
word. Beautiful car, got good mileage despite weighing nearly 6000 pounds wet.

The coupes never appealed to me, but this is still a neat car.

I have always wanted an early to mid 60s 75 Series limo with a divider 
window
 
Dan 

Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

What is pristen?

Dan

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

Okay. It is a two door, which makes the toddler seat a pain. But it is a car 
worthy of a barrister, no?

http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3045080533.html

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Re: [MBZ] Car For Donald Snook

2012-05-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Those sixties caddies were beautiful. Look what's happened to the luxury auto 
market. We have nasty Hyundai Genesis, Lexus, etc. 

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On May 29, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

I should add that I am a closet Caddy person. One of my early cars was a 
pristen 1962 Fleetwood that was truly a land yacht in every sense of the 
word. Beautiful car, got good mileage despite weighing nearly 6000 pounds wet.

The coupes never appealed to me, but this is still a neat car.

I have always wanted an early to mid 60s 75 Series limo with a divider 
window

Dan 

Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

What is pristen?

Dan

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

Okay. It is a two door, which makes the toddler seat a pain. But it is a car 
worthy of a barrister, no?

http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3045080533.html

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Re: [MBZ] Car For Donald Snook

2012-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell

I like Caddies too but I want a new one!

Randy

On 29/05/2012 6:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I should add that I am a closet Caddy person. One of my early cars was a 
pristen 1962 Fleetwood that was truly a land yacht in every sense of the 
word. Beautiful car, got good mileage despite weighing nearly 6000 pounds wet.

The coupes never appealed to me, but this is still a neat car.

I have always wanted an early to mid 60s 75 Series limo with a divider 
window

Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedessource just uploaded a video

2012-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That's really me

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 Hmmm. Weren't we just talking about this? I wonder if this Bergsma fellow is 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedessource just uploaded a video

2012-05-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Kaleb Bergsma?

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That's really me

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Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fleece

2012-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
 With the Vee engines anyway, the fleece are the $15 filters that are 
 good for
 10,000 miles. The regular $10 filters I don't believe are supposed to run 
 all
 the way until the FSS tells you it's time for an oil change...
 
The fleece filters are required for extended oil changes whereas the paper 
versions (interchangeable) are for 5K changes. I had a few paper filters 
left over from my C320 which I used up in the C300 because I change it's M1 
0W40 at 5K anyway.

I buy my fleece filters at far less than $15.

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Re: [MBZ] chairs

2012-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
I have a nice office chair from Office Depot with a pneumatic cylinder and 
when it collapsed I had it replaced by a guy who travelled around in a 
pickup since Office Depot didn't carry new cylinders. Cost me 40 bucks 
installed.

The interesting thing was that the chair cylinder is made by the same 
German outfit that made the hood and rear window struts in my 944.

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Re: [MBZ] Where to mount a cup holder?

2012-05-29 Thread Larry T
I mounted mine in the catch all  below the lowered arm-rest - if you 
have that option.   The Cup Holder I bought was color coded the same as 
my interior.I can provide photos if needed..


LarryT
91 300D 2,5

On 5/29/2012 12:21 PM, John Reames wrote:

No, not quite that high. anything in the passenger side holder (as opposed to 
the narrow deep well that it goes into, which is just perfect for a can) will 
hit right about the AC controls, and run into them. You'll also get the radio 
buttons, and it will definitely douse the window switches and the shifter. 
(There IS a control unit, mainly a position sensor, in the shifter.)

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John Reames wrote:

You mean the drink launcher, which insures steady demand for AAC boxes, radios 
and shifter assemblies?

You saying that if I engage BAS with a can of Coke in the holder, it's going 
into the dash?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] chairs

2012-05-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Bilstein?

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I have a nice office chair from Office Depot with a pneumatic cylinder and 
when it collapsed I had it replaced by a guy who travelled around in a 
pickup since Office Depot didn't carry new cylinders. Cost me 40 bucks 
installed.

The interesting thing was that the chair cylinder is made by the same 
German outfit that made the hood and rear window struts in my 944.

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[MBZ] Day 2 still good speed

2012-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Test Date: May 29, 2012 8:53 PM
Connection Type: Wifi
Server: Bixby, OK
Download: 15.44 Mbps
Upload: 2.97 Mbps
Ping: 765 ms

External IP: 184.20.35.204
Internal IP: 192.168.1.4
Latitude: 36.2551
Longitude: -95.5796

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Re: [MBZ] Day 2 still good speed

2012-05-29 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote:
 Test Date: May 29, 2012 8:53 PM
 Connection Type: Wifi
 Server: Bixby, OK
 Download: 15.44 Mbps
 Upload: 2.97 Mbps
 Ping: 765 ms

Do the test with your former canopy account.
Do you remember what the canopy system did?
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Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes

2012-05-29 Thread OK Don
I took a freind up in a Citabria for some light aerobatics between classes
one day. He did fine until I noticed that the altimeter was no longer
working, and I didn't know just how high we were after exit from a spin. As
i started a gentle letdown, he opened the side window and barfed outside.
unfortunately, it all blew back in behind him. We spent two hours cleaning
up that airplane. The owners revoked my rental priviledges until one of
them needed a tow (glider) one day, and I was the only one on the airport
checked out to do tows. THe Citabria stunk of vomit for a month after that
incident!

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Ain't them things got those winders that open up?  My buddy and I flew
 airplanes, I flew Pipers (fixed windows in the doors) and he flew Cessna
 150s, which had windows hinged at the top you could open for some breeze.
  We would go out flying low and slow and holler at people on the ground, it
 was funny to watch them as they had no idea where the sound was coming
 from.  There was a golf course on final to the main runway at FWA, we would
 holler at the golfers as they were trying to take shots.  It was all
 totally hilarious!

 --R


 On 5/29/12 12:26 PM, WILTON wrote:

 'May not be able to help my barfing, either.  ;)
 BTW, spring of '75, I flew daughter on a '64 Cessna 182 from Soo, MI, to
 Greenville, NC, (East Caro. U) for a new student orientation.  Our low tour
 over the town before landing was a bit bouncy; just as I was flaring for
 the landing, daughter need barf bag; flared with left hand while fetching
 barf bag with right hand - not a good time for fetching, but we made it.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes



 Now, now, be nice. Homely people can't help it.

 Randy

 On 26/05/2012 9:03 AM, WILTON wrote:

 Now, where did I stow those barf bags?  Never can find 'em when I need
 'em.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer 
 arche...@embarqmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:36 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Fashionistas for the right seat of our Mercedes


  Personally, I think some of the ladies in this group are quite
 attractive, but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 Gerry

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/**news/article-2138816/Heres-**
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Re: [MBZ] Day 2 still good speed

2012-05-29 Thread OK Don
Cool. I run at least five tests, then average the results. Helps to smooth
out the vagarities of the Internet.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Test Date: May 29, 2012 8:53 PM
 Connection Type: Wifi
 Server: Bixby, OK
 Download: 15.44 Mbps
 Upload: 2.97 Mbps
 Ping: 765 ms

 External IP: 184.20.35.204
 Internal IP: 192.168.1.4
 Latitude: 36.2551
 Longitude: -95.5796

 A detailed image for this result can be found here:

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[MBZ] Fleabay buyers

2012-05-29 Thread clay monroe
I really hate fleabay.  I think I will abstain from further business there.

Posted the cluster from a 116 on there, along with another posting for the 107 
cluster.  Canadian fellow cluelessly bids up the 116, when he really wanted the 
107, but did not know that because he was doing all this for his FiL.  Not sure 
FiL knows what he needed unless he saw it.

Buyer acknowledged his error once he showed it to the user, but wants it made 
all good.  I have the proper  cluster and offer swap.  He has to pay all 
shipping.  Today I get back a squashed box with a busted up cluster.  Great!  I 
have no use for that in the least.  Will take time and effort to swap out  
usable from waste, and he expects me to post a fresh good cluster?




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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay buyers

2012-05-29 Thread Dieselhead

I really hate fleabay.  I think I will abstain from further business there.


yeah,

I sold a timing chain and tensioner to a stupid Aussie.  He was all 
bent about normal shipping cost, so I found a way to put it  in a 
priority flat rate envelope to get it there for ~$13 rather than 
~$30.   So, he starts complaining right after I sent it because it 
didn't show up in 24 hours to freakin OZ!  Next thing I know he 
complained to fleabay and they refunded his money with my money.  No 
questions, but Bam! done, money gone, product gone.  See ya.  no 
appeal.


So the guy claims he never got it and the priority envelope has a 
tracking number, but I find out the PO does not track it because it 
is international.  Can you say Screwed?  Yup.  Nice!


Prior OZ shipment went without a hitch, but no more international 
sales for me, unless it is to Hendrik.  At least there are two honest 
Aussies for one knothead


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Re: [MBZ] Fleabay buyers

2012-05-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
That really sucks. I hate dishonest scumbags like that.

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On May 29, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

I really hate fleabay.  I think I will abstain from further business there.

yeah,

I sold a timing chain and tensioner to a stupid Aussie.  He was all bent about 
normal shipping cost, so I found a way to put it  in a priority flat rate 
envelope to get it there for ~$13 rather than ~$30.   So, he starts complaining 
right after I sent it because it didn't show up in 24 hours to freakin OZ!  
Next thing I know he complained to fleabay and they refunded his money with my 
money.  No questions, but Bam! done, money gone, product gone.  See ya.  no 
appeal.

So the guy claims he never got it and the priority envelope has a tracking 
number, but I find out the PO does not track it because it is international.  
Can you say Screwed?  Yup.  Nice!

Prior OZ shipment went without a hitch, but no more international sales for me, 
unless it is to Hendrik.  At least there are two honest Aussies for one 
knothead

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Re: [MBZ] 928

2012-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
 I said: No informed person would buy this car at any price.
 
 ...Well, would you say that if this particular example didn't seem to have
 been tastelessly customized?
 
That is only part of it. Adding that ugly doghouse and whatever else was 
done eliminates most buyers but it does drive the price down to nearly 
nothing. The early 928 with it's Mercedes-sourced 3-speed automatic was plenty 
troublesome because of the electrics and electronics which Porsche had little 
experience with. The twin-disc clutch has already been discussed. My friends 
GR and his wife bought a new '79 automatic (about 28 grand) and it's been 
their Concours car ever since. It's Metallic blue and is perfectly preserved 
but has been driven coast-to-coast and down to California a time or two. It 
had early valve train problems which were finally warrantied after a long 
debate since in those days Porsche blamed everything on the owner.   Now it 
just 
runs and runs, but not often.   


 Would you say the same of a 911 of the same year, or a 924?

 
Apples and oranges. A '79 911SC is still a desirable car and can bring 
prices in the middle teens if in decent shape. And considering that these were 
about 20K when new, that's not bad. The 3-liter engine is well known as a 
long-lived engine with over 200K without repairs being not uncommon. Unlike the 
previous series 2.7 (not the RS) which had a few design faults including 
pulling case bolts. Probably all of those have had major overhauls and updates 
long ago. What a buyer needs to realize these days that a complete re-do on 
a 911 engine can easily top 15 grand. That's the air-cooled models but the 
water-cooled engines cost a bit less but are often times are just replaced. 
When the 996 came out many engines were replaced under warranty because of 
oil leaks from the rear main crankshaft seal. That little defect took years 
to defeat and the only real fix is a mod kit produced by an independent shop. 
The end of the crank is not directly supported by a bearing and when the 
crank starts to whip it's too late so these kits are being installed all over 
the country. Discussing these engines would take a long time.   The new D.I. 
engine in the 911, now 991, and the Boxsters has eliminated about 30% of 
the internal parts including the intermediate shaft which used to drive the 
oil pump. Now, like the newest MB engines, an electric variable speed oil pump 
is used so a lot of hp is saved there plus eliminating parts to fail.

The last of the run, the GTS, was expensive and still is but is 
comparatively rare. In fact just last Saturday my Porsche Club Region had it's 
first 
Concours of 2012 and a very nice 928GTS was entered in my class, Preservation. 
My 944 won the class handily, one reason being my friend AC's '71 911S has 
moved into Restoration class and our two cars are about equal. When the Blue 
'79 928 shows up then it's a tossup. But, it didn't.

As to the '79 924, well..

It was an underpowered sparsely equipped 4-cylinder 4-speed with a 
hobby-horse ride. It was cheapish but you didn't get much. The 240Z was really 
a 
better car for about the same price. The 924 Turbo   was faster but had 
problems with the turbo system which required removing the entire exhaust 
system to 
repair it. And it's performance just about equalled my normally aspirated 
944 which in turn is no match for the 944 Turbo which is still a rocket ship. 
But, one had to realize that repairs are still geared to a $50K car even 
though runouts can be bought cheap, only to melt your VISA card later on.

 Why all the disdain among Porsche fans for the 928?   This is a car 
 that period reviews called the best GT ever, indescribably better than its 
 competition.  Yet the things now are routinely seen for sale for under $5000, 
 sometimes way under, for an early example.  None of the other watercooled 
 cars--944, 924S, even the 924-- goes that cheap.
 
At that time, what was it's competition? Not the SL which was a cruiser and 
made no pretensions at being a sports car. Nothing Italian, of course. 
Buying an old 928 now might be like buying an old boat. Looks
 great but nothing has been maintained and she's about to go to the bottom. 
On the other hand, I know two other owners of early cars which have been 
turned into track cars (), both 5-speeds and they are fast and reliable 
enough but not without the occasional fix. But, it takes a good income to keep 
a car like this up to snuff and use it vigorously. One of these guys is my 
now retired Opthalmologist and the other an Alaska Airlines Captain who also 
owns a restored 356 Speedster and a 997S.

 .Even the 914 which used to be the black sheep of the Porsche family 
 now
 gets more respect.  I don't get it
 
Well now just minute 

Re: [MBZ] Selectric

2012-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Anyway, I turned it on and it just sort of chattered and didn't really 
 respond to the keyboard.  I've read that they can do this after sitting
 for a while, but this one didn't seem to settle down. Is there a common 
 adjustment or repair or cleaning that can resolve
 this?
 
I suppose this is a correcting Selectric II. I bought one last year for my 
then 98 year old Mom who needed to create some pages for a loose leaf 
notebook. I found one Craigslist and the price was to be $75. When I arrived at 
the sellers home (looked like $900 K to me) he had it on the bench and said it 
had stopped running and he couldn't figure out why. Turned out he bought 
used Selectrics and refurbished them as a hobby. Finally he dropped the price 
to $25 and I took  it home, figuring I could maybe get it repaired. A friend 
employed an ex-typewriter repairman (had his own shop which closed) and 
knew all about Selectrics. The three day turnaround turned into ten days and 
when I call he said it was unrepairable. He said there very close tolerances 
could only be lubricated by a special lube which had been sold by IBM back in 
the day.

It would start up but after about 15 minutes would freeze up. His diagnosis 
was that somebody had sprayed the guts of it with a lubricant (cannot 
remember the name but know it) that once dried cannot be removed by anything in 
the civilized world. I looked at the manufacturer's website and sure enough 
it boasted that the stuff was impervious to anything. So, the inside of the 
machine was permanently gummed up and had perhaps thirty minute duty cycles 
separated by cool down periods. Knowing all this, it has worked fine. The 
Selectric is still considered to be the best typewriter ever built and there 
are stiil things you just can't do on a word processor.

Don't spray anything inside the thing.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] 928

2012-05-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Nice overview! BTW, I agree that putting a water cooled engine in the 911 is 
blasphemous.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 30, 2012, at 12:47 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

I said: No informed person would buy this car at any price.

...Well, would you say that if this particular example didn't seem to have
been tastelessly customized?

That is only part of it. Adding that ugly doghouse and whatever else was 
done eliminates most buyers but it does drive the price down to nearly 
nothing. The early 928 with it's Mercedes-sourced 3-speed automatic was plenty 
troublesome because of the electrics and electronics which Porsche had little 
experience with. The twin-disc clutch has already been discussed. My friends 
GR and his wife bought a new '79 automatic (about 28 grand) and it's been 
their Concours car ever since. It's Metallic blue and is perfectly preserved 
but has been driven coast-to-coast and down to California a time or two. It 
had early valve train problems which were finally warrantied after a long 
debate since in those days Porsche blamed everything on the owner.   Now it 
just 
runs and runs, but not often.   


Would you say the same of a 911 of the same year, or a 924?


Apples and oranges. A '79 911SC is still a desirable car and can bring 
prices in the middle teens if in decent shape. And considering that these were 
about 20K when new, that's not bad. The 3-liter engine is well known as a 
long-lived engine with over 200K without repairs being not uncommon. Unlike the 
previous series 2.7 (not the RS) which had a few design faults including 
pulling case bolts. Probably all of those have had major overhauls and updates 
long ago. What a buyer needs to realize these days that a complete re-do on 
a 911 engine can easily top 15 grand. That's the air-cooled models but the 
water-cooled engines cost a bit less but are often times are just replaced. 
When the 996 came out many engines were replaced under warranty because of 
oil leaks from the rear main crankshaft seal. That little defect took years 
to defeat and the only real fix is a mod kit produced by an independent shop. 
The end of the crank is not directly supported by a bearing and when the 
crank starts to whip it's too late so these kits are being installed all over 
the country. Discussing these engines would take a long time.   The new D.I. 
engine in the 911, now 991, and the Boxsters has eliminated about 30% of 
the internal parts including the intermediate shaft which used to drive the 
oil pump. Now, like the newest MB engines, an electric variable speed oil pump 
is used so a lot of hp is saved there plus eliminating parts to fail.

The last of the run, the GTS, was expensive and still is but is 
comparatively rare. In fact just last Saturday my Porsche Club Region had it's 
first 
Concours of 2012 and a very nice 928GTS was entered in my class, Preservation. 
My 944 won the class handily, one reason being my friend AC's '71 911S has 
moved into Restoration class and our two cars are about equal. When the Blue 
'79 928 shows up then it's a tossup. But, it didn't.

As to the '79 924, well..

It was an underpowered sparsely equipped 4-cylinder 4-speed with a 
hobby-horse ride. It was cheapish but you didn't get much. The 240Z was really 
a 
better car for about the same price. The 924 Turbo   was faster but had 
problems with the turbo system which required removing the entire exhaust 
system to 
repair it. And it's performance just about equalled my normally aspirated 
944 which in turn is no match for the 944 Turbo which is still a rocket ship. 
But, one had to realize that repairs are still geared to a $50K car even 
though runouts can be bought cheap, only to melt your VISA card later on.

Why all the disdain among Porsche fans for the 928?   This is a car 
that period reviews called the best GT ever, indescribably better than its 
competition.  Yet the things now are routinely seen for sale for under $5000, 
sometimes way under, for an early example.  None of the other watercooled 
cars--944, 924S, even the 924-- goes that cheap.

At that time, what was it's competition? Not the SL which was a cruiser and 
made no pretensions at being a sports car. Nothing Italian, of course. 
Buying an old 928 now might be like buying an old boat. Looks
great but nothing has been maintained and she's about to go to the bottom. 
On the other hand, I know two other owners of early cars which have been 
turned into track cars (), both 5-speeds and they are fast and reliable 
enough but not without the occasional fix. But, it takes a good income to keep 
a car like this up to snuff and use it vigorously. One of these guys is my 
now retired Opthalmologist and the other an Alaska Airlines Captain who also 
owns a restored 356 Speedster and a 997S.

.Even the 914 which used to be the black sheep of the Porsche family 
now
gets more respect.  I don't get it

Well 

Re: [MBZ] chair struts

2012-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Bilstein?..
 
No. Now I'm going to have to turn it over and take a look.

RLE

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