Re: [MBZ] electric pumps
relng...@aol.com wrote: Oil pressure gauges have been gone for more than ten years and when a major problem surfaces the instrument panel turns bright red and displays a warning that even the most oblivious cannot ignore. 1. I wish my 1999 E320 had an oil pressure gauge like all my other MBZ. 2. When a serious problem shows on the instrument panel, does it beep loudly to get your attention like my E320 does when it wants to tell me one of my license plate lamps is out? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Selectric
If your Windoze machine does a BSOD, it should generate a folder called mini dump with the contents of the error. There are a number of third party programs that will load this data and give you an interpretation of the contents, down to the line of code where the BSOD occurred. Dan On May 31, 2012, at 12:52 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: It has been said that a BSOD used to do the same thing, if one was privileged enough to know how to decipher it. I need to brush up on GNU/Linux core dump, would help fir when Sid starts getting angry. Walt On May 30, 2012 10:12 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I liked line printers spewing out stacks and stacks of wide paper with all sorts of indecipherable stuff, esp when you got a core dump when your program bombed. A woman at NASA actually taught me how to read core dumps and figure out what bit of code did the nasty, so I could go back and fix it quickly. I used this newfound skill with various other students when I got back to school, and was a god to them when I did it. It was nothing short of magic. I could read it and sort out the problem in about 30sec after they had taken hours to try to debug their code. Unfortunately it never helped me get, um, female companionship, just respect with the dudes. --R On 5/30/12 9:54 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2012 21:38:12 -0400 Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net** writes: But we are talking mid 70's. When Xerox came up with the Diablo daisy wheel, all the Selectric terminals went away, too much maintenance. I remember the diablos. Sounded like a gatling gun when they were in action. Laser printers were a dramatic improvement. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] electric
Wggger. it's called Logic which may be a foreign word to you. Sarcastic humor aside, do the math. The electric oil pump fails, engine failure follows, car sets on tow truck using zero fuel while racking up miles as a passenger on said truck.. are you not capable of visualization and calculation at the same time? Would it be to bold to suggest that a strong course of Castor Oil would cure your obvious conditon? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Yep, it's now proven fact that once the electric oil pump fails, fuel mileage goes through the roof... Now a proven fact? I would love to read your reference. This has been published where? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New G-Wagen
They drive Eckscalades yo. --R On 5/30/12 11:04 PM, clay monroe wrote: Bad enough we have rapper gangsta fools with pants inviting sodomy in the frod and chubby SUV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New G-Wagen
Black or that awful pearly white. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They drive Eckscalades yo. --R On 5/30/12 11:04 PM, clay monroe wrote: Bad enough we have rapper gangsta fools with pants inviting sodomy in the frod and chubby SUV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New G-Wagen
on twennyfos wif da bass rap beat rattlin --R On 5/31/12 9:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Black or that awful pearly white. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They drive Eckscalades yo. --R On 5/30/12 11:04 PM, clay monroe wrote: Bad enough we have rapper gangsta fools with pants inviting sodomy in the frod and chubby SUV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a 617 block?
Is a block the same as an engine? Motor? Head??? Top? Bottom?? On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/3040187633.html not mine, no interest clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a 617 block?
Well, thats cheap enough its worth buying if you're local. I'd pick one up! On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/3040187633.html not mine, no interest clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need a 617 block?
On Thu, 31 May 2012 11:18:24 -0400 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is a block the same as an engine? Motor? Head??? Top? Bottom?? No, not by a long shot. The block is just the block, no head, no oil pan, no transmission adapter plate, no crankshaft, no connecting rods, no pistons, no crankshaft bearing caps, no water pump, no starter: just the block. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New G-Wagen
Isn't that from a song? Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: on twennyfos wif da bass rap beat rattlin --R On 5/31/12 9:31 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Black or that awful pearly white. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They drive Eckscalades yo. --R On 5/30/12 11:04 PM, clay monroe wrote: Bad enough we have rapper gangsta fools with pants inviting sodomy in the frod and chubby SUV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
No, no, no --- This is where you get to justify buying the mig welder, the air compressor etc. DIY! Randy On 31/05/2012 3:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
How bad is the rust? Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh fender might be less costly. PnP fender should be very inexpensive. Still lots of shop time to prep for paint and mounting. Probably same a for a new made fender. Maaco paint job with fix would be least expensive, but might look like crap. Probably best to ask around for quotes to repair and paint. You are under no obligation to use any shop. See what they tell you about going either way. I would want my shop to remove the old fender to do any rust repair and repaint. Then I would end up with needing a whole paint over for the car. Sell the thing to Kaleb clay On May 31, 2012, at 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
123 fenders used to be cheap as wine. Check with the Q. Dan On May 31, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
They are $308.00 but shipping is a bear. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore? 123 fenders used to be cheap as wine. Check with the Q. Dan On May 31, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The History Behind Driving on the Left or Right
Most of the world drives on the right side of the road, but a minority of countries drive on the left. How do countries decide which side they'll drive on? The answer varies from country to country, but in most cases, the side a country drives on comes down to history and economics. In feudal Europe, people would travel on the left side of the road because most people were right-handed and wanted the arm that they used for their sword (or other weapon) between them and anyone who approached. As a result, traveling on the left became customary. Two things changed that. In areas with large farms, like the United States, wagons that were meant to carry large loads didn't have driver's seats. To control the horses pulling the load, farmers would ride on the left horse. Traveling on the right side of the road made sense because it allowed the farmer to see the space between the wheels of his wagon and any approaching wagons to avoid collisions. At about the same time, Napoleon Bonaparte, who was left-handed, was coming to power in France. Since he liked to keep his sword arm between himself and anyone who approached, he preferred to travel on the right side of the road, and decreed that his army would do the same. Though this custom of approach was in place prior to Napoleon taking power, he imposed that direction of travel on the areas he took over throughout Europe. So, Americans and most of mainland Europe started traveling on the right, whereas other areas, like Great Britain, stuck to the left. As Europeans began colonizing other parts of the world, they imposed their direction of travel on those areas. In much of the world, you can tell the side of the road a country travels on based on its status as a former colony. Former colonies of England tend to drive on the left, while former French and American colonies tend to drive on the right. There are exceptions, of course. Canada drives on the right because of their proximity to and longstanding trade relationship with the United States. Sweden used to drive on the left, but because they had a burgeoning automotive industry that depended on trade with countries that drove on the right, they switched. Ghana, a former British colony, also switched from driving on the left to driving on the right because that's how most of their neighboring countries drove. On the other hand, the U.S. Virgin Islands is a territory of the United States, but they drive on the left. http://community.allstate.com/community/allstate_blog/blog/2012/04/05/how-countries-choose-which-side-of-the-road-they-drive-on?cid=OTC-SOC-PB-BLOGatt=OB_Take-Sides-The-History-Behind-Driving-onGerry wrote:Since most American are right handed, and since most Americans are drinkingsomething while they drive, America should switch to driving on the leftside of road. That way, the more adeptright arm would be devoted to steering and the left arm would be devoted todrinking and otherless precise activities. Lefties are already used to adapting to a righthanded world, so it would beno problem for them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Why women prefer weaker men
Early humans became monogomous because women evolved to prefer reliable providers over macho alpha males, a study has found. Alpha males may have superior looks and strength but women are programmed to favour weaker men who are better providers, a study claims. While physically imposing men hold a certain appeal, women long ago evolved to value qualities like loyalty and generosity over bulging muscles and a strong jawline. This is because men who lacked the ability to compete physically with their peers compensated by providing better for their spouses in order to buy their affection, researchers said. The rise of the Beta male began at an early stage of human evolution when our ancestors lived in large social groups where the most dominant men had access to the most women. Lower-ranking men had to develop another strategy for obtaining a mate, and did so by devoting themselves to one woman and providing her with all the food and protection she needed. This led women to value a generous and devoted partner over a promiscuous stronger man, laying the first foundations for monogamous family life, researchers from Tennessee university said. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/evolution/9295131/Why-women-prefer-weaker-men.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
Cheap as wine - French champagne maybe... On 5/31/12, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: They are $308.00 but shipping is a bear. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore? 123 fenders used to be cheap as wine. Check with the Q. Dan On May 31, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
Are these glued on? I seem to recall some reference to difficulties changing MB fenders because they are bolted and glued on. Randy On 31/05/2012 3:17 PM, clay monroe wrote: How bad is the rust? Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh fender might be less costly. PnP fender should be very inexpensive. Still lots of shop time to prep for paint and mounting. Probably same a for a new made fender. Maaco paint job with fix would be least expensive, but might look like crap. Probably best to ask around for quotes to repair and paint. You are under no obligation to use any shop. See what they tell you about going either way. I would want my shop to remove the old fender to do any rust repair and repaint. Then I would end up with needing a whole paint over for the car. Sell the thing to Kaleb clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
Heh. I guess the price has gone up a bit I think the last one I bought was around $180. Dan On May 31, 2012, at 5:22 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Cheap as wine - French champagne maybe... On 5/31/12, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: They are $308.00 but shipping is a bear. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore? 123 fenders used to be cheap as wine. Check with the Q. Dan On May 31, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
They use some nasty seam sealer on the top edge. You have to use a heat gun or a torch to soften it up. Dan On May 31, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Are these glued on? I seem to recall some reference to difficulties changing MB fenders because they are bolted and glued on. Randy On 31/05/2012 3:17 PM, clay monroe wrote: How bad is the rust? Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh fender might be less costly. PnP fender should be very inexpensive. Still lots of shop time to prep for paint and mounting. Probably same a for a new made fender. Maaco paint job with fix would be least expensive, but might look like crap. Probably best to ask around for quotes to repair and paint. You are under no obligation to use any shop. See what they tell you about going either way. I would want my shop to remove the old fender to do any rust repair and repaint. Then I would end up with needing a whole paint over for the car. Sell the thing to Kaleb clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The History Behind Driving on the Left or Right
I can never make up my mind so I just drive down the middle. Randy On 31/05/2012 2:57 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Most of the world drives on the right side of the road, but a minority of countries drive on the left. How do countries decide which side they'll drive on? The answer varies from country to country, but in most cases, the side a country drives on comes down to history and economics. In feudal Europe, people would travel on the left side of the road because most people were right-handed and wanted the arm that they used for their sword (or other weapon) between them and anyone who approached. As a result, traveling on the left became customary. Two things changed that. In areas with large farms, like the United States, wagons that were meant to carry large loads didn't have driver's seats. To control the horses pulling the load, farmers would ride on the left horse. Traveling on the right side of the road made sense because it allowed the farmer to see the space between the wheels of his wagon and any approaching wagons to avoid collisions. At about the same time, Napoleon Bonaparte, who was left-handed, was coming to power in France. Since he liked to keep his sword arm between himself and anyone who approached, he preferred to travel on the right side of the road, and decreed that his army would do the same. Though this custom of approach was in place prior to Napoleon taking power, he imposed that direction of travel on the areas he took over throughout Europe. So, Americans and most of mainland Europe started traveling on the right, whereas other areas, like Great Britain, stuck to the left. As Europeans began colonizing other parts of the world, they imposed their direction of travel on those areas. In much of the world, you can tell the side of the road a country travels on based on its status as a former colony. Former colonies of England tend to drive on the left, while former French and American colonies tend to drive on the right. There are exceptions, of course. Canada drives on the right because of their proximity to and longstanding trade relationship with the United States. Sweden used to drive on the left, but because they had a burgeoning automotive industry that depended on trade with countries that drove on the right, they switched. Ghana, a former British colony, also switched from driving on the left to driving on the right because that's how most of their neighboring countries drove. On the other hand, the U.S. Virgin Islands is a territory of the United States, but they drive on the left. http://community.allstate.com/community/allstate_blog/blog/2012/04/05/how-countries-choose-which-side-of-the-road-they-drive-on?cid=OTC-SOC-PB-BLOGatt=OB_Take-Sides-The-History-Behind-Driving-onGerry wrote:Since most American are right handed, and since most Americans are drinkingsomething while they drive, America should switch to driving on the leftside of road. That way, the more adeptright arm would be devoted to steering and the left arm would be devoted todrinking and otherless precise activities. Lefties are already used to adapting to a righthanded world, so it would beno problem for them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
If rust can be repaired properly without removing fender then I'd opt for that. Fender removal means removal of that undercoating stuff which is a job in itself. That might also predispose to future rust if not prepped and re- undercoated properly. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 4:17 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: How bad is the rust? Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh fender might be less costly. PnP fender should be very inexpensive. Still lots of shop time to prep for paint and mounting. Probably same a for a new made fender. Maaco paint job with fix would be least expensive, but might look like crap. Probably best to ask around for quotes to repair and paint. You are under no obligation to use any shop. See what they tell you about going either way. I would want my shop to remove the old fender to do any rust repair and repaint. Then I would end up with needing a whole paint over for the car. Sell the thing to Kaleb clay On May 31, 2012, at 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:33:20 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: They use some nasty seam sealer on the top edge. You have to use a heat gun or a torch to soften it up. They stopped using that somewhere around 1982 on W123s. Our '82 240D/3.0 was built without the seam sealer and the fenders are easy to change (I have done it). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: If rust can be repaired properly without removing fender then I'd opt for that. Fender removal means removal of that undercoating stuff which is a job in itself. MB stopped using the seam sealer somewhere around '82. Our '82 240D/3.0 does not have it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Selectric
I still have one, needs an interface board. Peter On May 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: But we are talking mid 70's. When Xerox came up with the Diablo daisy wheel, all the Selectric terminals went away, too much maintenance. I remember the diablos. Sounded like a gatling gun when they were in action. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
How bad is the rust? Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh fender might be less costly. Second the new fender. I have not priced a fender for a 123 lately, but give Q a chance. Last I knew 124 fenders and 126 fenders were just a little over $100 each. 123 now being classic center status may have changed the prices. If they are now $500, then rustfree used or repair may be cheaper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
Fronts are relatively easy to replace, except maybe for the ones glued on. Never did rears and I expect you'll need to fix them unless there's little left to fix. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore? We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have the body shop repair the existing ones? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] E300D Glow Plug Relay Problem
My glow plug relay is acting up again. It cycle normally in the when I start out to work, but 15 to 20 minutes into the ride it comes on and stays on for 30-40 seconds, longer than the morning glow. It does not come on again for the rest of the ride. It had been suggested that bad ignition may be cause this, if this was the case I would think it would come on multiple time through the ride as part of the interstate through Cincinnati are very rough. I may just replace the relay and see if that cures the problem. I just replaced all six glow plugs this past February. Regards, Robert Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D 341,000 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
Since I intend for my '84 300D to be my last car and last me the rest of my days, I replaced the RF LR fenders in '09 after finding rust that I was convinced would spread. I've had rust repaired in the past by reputable establishments only for rust to reappear a couple years later. Even if I need to replace the LF RR fenders at some point in the future, it's worth it to me. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] tire opinion
Should know better than to ask but does anyone have anything good (or bad) to say about Kelly Explorer tires. This is for our Focus, just a running-around-town car for the most part. Firestone dealer is offering Champion HRs for slightly less, the shop will the Kellys is a long-time local shop, so on that basis I'd prefer to go with them. I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past couple of years. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E300D Glow Plug Relay Problem
It's possible to have loose contacts in the relay that cause it (or the light only) to come on when it should be off. Obviously, a loose wire from the keyswitch will do the same thing, but other things should be cycling too (does the radio antenna go up and down, for instance?). I had this happen on my Volvo TD -- if it happened at night, the alternator couldn't keep up and the battery would go dead. Pretty obvious, though, since the relay rattled when shaken! Peter On May 31, 2012, at 6:02 PM, rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote: My glow plug relay is acting up again. It cycle normally in the when I start out to work, but 15 to 20 minutes into the ride it comes on and stays on for 30-40 seconds, longer than the morning glow. It does not come on again for the rest of the ride. It had been suggested that bad ignition may be cause this, if this was the case I would think it would come on multiple time through the ride as part of the interstate through Cincinnati are very rough. I may just replace the relay and see if that cures the problem. I just replaced all six glow plugs this past February. Regards, Robert Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D 341,000 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
If I had the time and motivation, I'd try removing the fenders, using the electrolytic method to get rid of the rust, then repair or fill as needed. Wire brushing and topical rust removers do not approach what I've seen the electrolytic conversion do. Instructions are somewhere on Jim Cathey's website. Allan G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com writes: Since I intend for my '84 300D to be my last car and last me the rest of my days, I replaced the RF LR fenders in '09 after finding rust that I was convinced would spread. I've had rust repaired in the past by reputable establishments only for rust to reappear a couple years later. Even if I need to replace the LF RR fenders at some point in the future, it's worth it to me. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
The police of South Korea investigate the reasons of a bizarre car accident, which occurred to the latest model of Hyundai Sonata. The car began accelerating against the driver's will and crashed into another car at the speed of 129 km/hsnip http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/17-05-2012/121154-hyundai_sonata-0/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
Page didn't load for me, but I bet the driver had his foot on the throttle. 99% chance. Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: The police of South Korea investigate the reasons of a bizarre car accident, which occurred to the latest model of Hyundai Sonata. The car began accelerating against the driver's will and crashed into another car at the speed of 129 km/hsnip http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/17-05-2012/121154-hyundai_sonata-0/ -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
What is most puzzling is that it could accelerate to 129km/hr --R On 5/31/12 8:33 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: The police of South Korea investigate the reasons of a bizarre car accident, which occurred to the latest model of Hyundai Sonata. The car began accelerating against the driver's will and crashed into another car at the speed of 129 km/hsnip http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/17-05-2012/121154-hyundai_sonata-0/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's willto 80 mph
Try http://english.pravda.ru/ and click news and then hotspots. Gerry From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Page didn't load for me, but I bet the driver had his foot on the throttle. 99% chance. Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: The police of South Korea investigate the reasons of a bizarre car accident, which occurred to the latest model of Hyundai Sonata. The car began accelerating against the driver's will and crashed into another car at the speed of 129 km/hsnip http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/17-05-2012/121154-hyundai_sonata-0/ -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5036 - Release Date: 05/31/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E300D Glow Plug Relay Problem
In my experience, this is a bad relay or a #1 glow plug going bad. Could happen with new GP. Switch #1 and any other. I am betting it is a bad relay. It's possible to have loose contacts in the relay that cause it (or the light only) to come on when it should be off. Obviously, a loose wire from the keyswitch will do the same thing, but other things should be cycling too (does the radio antenna go up and down, for instance?). I had this happen on my Volvo TD -- if it happened at night, the alternator couldn't keep up and the battery would go dead. Pretty obvious, though, since the relay rattled when shaken! Peter On May 31, 2012, at 6:02 PM, rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote: My glow plug relay is acting up again. It cycle normally in the when I start out to work, but 15 to 20 minutes into the ride it comes on and stays on for 30-40 seconds, longer than the morning glow. It does not come on again for the rest of the ride. It had been suggested that bad ignition may be cause this, if this was the case I would think it would come on multiple time through the ride as part of the interstate through Cincinnati are very rough. I may just replace the relay and see if that cures the problem. I just replaced all six glow plugs this past February. Regards, Robert Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D 341,000 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:09:56 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Should know better than to ask but does anyone have anything good (or bad) to say about Kelly Explorer tires. This is for our Focus, just a running-around-town car for the most part. I have only heard of Kelly tires, so I cannot give any opinions. Firestone dealer is offering Champion HRs for slightly less, the shop will the Kellys is a long-time local shop, so on that basis I'd prefer to go with them. Supporting long-time local shops is a good thing to do. I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past couple of years. Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have been obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of things has to go up. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The History Behind Driving on the Left or Right
Some years ago (insert your favorite country to insult here) decided to change from driving on the left to driving on the right. Given that it was going to be a huge change for the country, the parliament debated the matter for weeks without coming to a conclusion as to how best to accomplish this major change. So after considerable agony Obama, oops I mean the Prime Minister, issued his decree: Starting next Monday all trucks and buses will switch to driving on the right. If it works out, the following Monday all cars will switch too. --R On 5/31/12 3:57 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Most of the world drives on the right side of the road, but a minority of countries drive on the left. How do countries decide which side they'll drive on? The answer varies from country to country, but in most cases, the side a country drives on comes down to history and economics. In feudal Europe, people would travel on the left side of the road because most people were right-handed and wanted the arm that they used for their sword (or other weapon) between them and anyone who approached. As a result, traveling on the left became customary. Two things changed that. In areas with large farms, like the United States, wagons that were meant to carry large loads didn't have driver's seats. To control the horses pulling the load, farmers would ride on the left horse. Traveling on the right side of the road made sense because it allowed the farmer to see the space between the wheels of his wagon and any approaching wagons to avoid collisions. At about the same time, Napoleon Bonaparte, who was left-handed, was coming to power in France. Since he liked to keep his sword arm between himself and anyone who approached, he preferred to travel on the right side of the road, and decreed that his army would do the same. Though this custom of approach was in place prior to Napoleon taking power, he imposed that direction of travel on the areas he took over throughout Europe. So, Americans and most of mainland Europe started traveling on the right, whereas other areas, like Great Britain, stuck to the left. As Europeans began colonizing other parts of the world, they imposed their direction of travel on those areas. In much of the world, you can tell the side of the road a country travels on based on its status as a former colony. Former colonies of England tend to drive on the left, while former French and American colonies tend to drive on the right. There are exceptions, of course. Canada drives on the right because of their proximity to and longstanding trade relationship with the United States. Sweden used to drive on the left, but because they had a burgeoning automotive industry that depended on trade with countries that drove on the right, they switched. Ghana, a former British colony, also switched from driving on the left to driving on the right because that's how most of their neighboring countries drove. On the other hand, the U.S. Virgin Islands is a territory of the United States, but they drive on the left. http://community.allstate.com/community/allstate_blog/blog/2012/04/05/how-countries-choose-which-side-of-the-road-they-drive-on?cid=OTC-SOC-PB-BLOGatt=OB_Take-Sides-The-History-Behind-Driving-onGerry wrote:Since most American are right handed, and since most Americans are drinkingsomething while they drive, America should switch to driving on the leftside of road. That way, the more adeptright arm would be devoted to steering and the left arm would be devoted todrinking and otherless precise activities. Lefties are already used to adapting to a righthanded world, so it would beno problem for them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] chains
...No, but its a pain to have to change a timing belt every 100,000 miles for $500+ when a chain could last 300,000 - 1,000,000 miles... Having read hundreds of posts about timing chains here and elsewhere over the last 15 years or so, I do believe your mileage life figures are just a wee bit optimistic. Same for timing belts. On a non-interference engine it does not make much difference as long as you don't mind hitchiking. As to the rest, the engine can be destroyed and no sane person would go anywhere near 100K miles. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Logic
...Wggger. it's called Logic which may be a foreign word to you. Sarcastic humor aside, do the math. The electric oil pump fails, engine failure follows, car sets on tow truck using zero fuel while racking up miles as a passenger on said truck.. are you not capable of visualization and calculation at the same time?.. Sometimes you might consider holding off on the pointless interjections to what I thought was a civilized conversation. I've been wondering whether you have any thoughts about crispy pancakes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Logic
On May 31, 2012, at 9:24 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I've been wondering whether you have any thoughts about crispy pancakes Nah. I won't ask. I probably don't want to know... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
It those establishments were autobody shops then being reputable will not change anything. Body shops have no idea how to correctly repair rust. It needs to be taken to a high end restoration shop. Any other alternative besides doing it yourself in a skilled manner will surely lead to disappointing results. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 7:06 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Since I intend for my '84 300D to be my last car and last me the rest of my days, I replaced the RF LR fenders in '09 after finding rust that I was convinced would spread. I've had rust repaired in the past by reputable establishments only for rust to reappear a couple years later. Even if I need to replace the LF RR fenders at some point in the future, it's worth it to me. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
