Re: [MBZ] Sandy
T'weren't nothin. Apparently the float has to be able to slide on its arm to properly trigger the pump. Some bugs had gotten in and built a happy little home inside the float (which is basically donut shaped) so it couldn't slide once they were evicted proper pump action was restored. We had maybe 1/4 of water in the corner of the basement where the sump is until I realized that the pump wasn't running. I've got a manual override (a string attached to the float arm) so I can get it going if I need to. We didn't have any water in the basement until about dark when it started to really rain hard. I'd done some landscaping last spring to help run water away from the house. It seems to have made a real difference, time was anytime it rained we had a least a little water in the basement... -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:56:14 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sandy Message-ID: a06240898ccb5001814dd@[192.168.0.103] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Bit of an in-joke with Loren, I have 9 or 10 stoves (it can be hard to keep count) and around 30 lanterns. I'd posted a youtube video of the 52 Week Coleman Challenge some time ago. I forget whom but somebody didn't seem to realize it was me... -Curt Yep. Bummer about the sump pump. That is a real pain! Hope you can get it dried out without great losses. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sandy
You'd suspect wrong. It all started back in 2008 when we had the ice storm. I was moderately prepared, Coleman stove, firewood, a little food. We lost power for a day and a half on that one. I got nervous because we didn't have much food or fuel, had to go for camp gas during the outage, paid through the nose, much stress and anxiety. This storm was smooth sailing because of good preparations. We'll continue this way... -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:31:58 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sandy Message-ID: cecd7e1d-aa5a-4d3d-b932-47c1e0e30...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Wish more Americans were like you, I suspect in that part of the country the majority are. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get some pretty good wind anyway. I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons on hand so this is just a backup, I've got 3 gallons of kerosene, 1 gallon of mix gas for the generator and a half dozen 1# cans of propane plus 3 gallons for the grill. I put the battery charger on my 110ah battery that will run lights and laptops, it was charged, which reminds me I should put it on my spare group 49 battery, suspenders and belt after all. The woodstove is lit, the wood room is about 3/4 full, the outside rack has a half cord under a tarp. In a minute I'm going to roast a chicken for dinner, bake bread and cook some turkey cutlets for lunch tomorrow. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sandy
Not much to report here, some shingles blown off the house, neighbor lost a spruce tree he didn't like anyway, thats firewood for me. Another neighbor lost an above ground pool they'd foolishly drained the water out of. Never lost power, never even had a serious blink that I saw. Some heavy wind but our town basically sits on top of a hill so strong wind is nothing new here. We've got patches of blue sky and some sun although CNN is indicating theres more storm to come. The Google crisis map shows more rain coming. I'm going to run out and see if I can't do a wheel bearing on my 240D before it rains again. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glows
'82, 617 w/ pencil plugs. Correct me if I err, the circuitry in the GPR compares the resistance value of #1 with the sum of the other four. Should be 1:4 but at minimum 1:3. In my case #1 was dead (OL:4) - thus no light (and no glow at all?). Replacing #1 accomplished light back on (~5 sec.), easier start and lot less smoke on start. It's glowing again! On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: What year? 617 engine? I did glows on my '81 300TD without removing anything. Its dammed fiddly but can be done. AFAIK no light = no glow at least at first, at some point the light goes out even though glowing may continue. -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:26:44 -0500 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Glows Message-ID: caojz3l9bygpw5xkak2vtbozgq5n8yvu2ytk3nrzpadgayjj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My old 300SD became hesitant to start lately. Lots of smoke for the first minute or so. No Preglow light. Tested the plugs and found #1 dead. I attempted to change all the plugs but gave up after #1 (Light comes on again). I removed the fuel lines between the delivery valves and injectors but could not figure out how to reach #5 plug. Coolant return line from heater and filter housing in the way. Two questions: Is it possible to replace #4 5 plugs without removing the obstructions? Does the preglow system work in spite of no indicator lght? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glows
'Nother reminder of what makes this site/group so great! 'Special thanks to Kaleb, Rusty and all the participants who make it possible for us to discuss and solve problems such as this and keep our beloved carriages humming and safely transporting. BTW, a special thanks for the camaraderie, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glows '82, 617 w/ pencil plugs. Correct me if I err, the circuitry in the GPR compares the resistance value of #1 with the sum of the other four. Should be 1:4 but at minimum 1:3. In my case #1 was dead (OL:4) - thus no light (and no glow at all?). Replacing #1 accomplished light back on (~5 sec.), easier start and lot less smoke on start. It's glowing again! On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: What year? 617 engine? I did glows on my '81 300TD without removing anything. Its dammed fiddly but can be done. AFAIK no light = no glow at least at first, at some point the light goes out even though glowing may continue. -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:26:44 -0500 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Glows Message-ID: caojz3l9bygpw5xkak2vtbozgq5n8yvu2ytk3nrzpadgayjj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My old 300SD became hesitant to start lately. Lots of smoke for the first minute or so. No Preglow light. Tested the plugs and found #1 dead. I attempted to change all the plugs but gave up after #1 (Light comes on again). I removed the fuel lines between the delivery valves and injectors but could not figure out how to reach #5 plug. Coolant return line from heater and filter housing in the way. Two questions: Is it possible to replace #4 5 plugs without removing the obstructions? Does the preglow system work in spite of no indicator lght? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sandy
You should get a backup pump. I bought one on sale and it is in the box under the laundry tub. If the one in the sump pit quits, it won't take me long to swap them (assuming I am home of course). We rarely have water issues so I have not done an install of a battery backup unit. Friends did as they had water issues and a very nicely developed basement. We have had water in the basement twice in 31 years but I know how to prevent it. Downspout extensions to move the water further from the foundation seems to prevent the problem. Randy On 29/10/2012 8:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Its rough... Fortunately we got all through dinner and the first episode of Sherlock (excellent!) on Amazon Prime with no loss of power. The sump pump did decide not to play and as its raining very hard there is rather a lot of water in the basement. The pump would work but wouldn't cycle on its own. I fiddled with the float for awhile and now it cycles every few minutes. Strange, I'd even vacuumed the dust out earlier today, should have wet tested it though. -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:28:53 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sandy Message-ID: a06240892ccb4bdd48485@[192.168.0.103] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed To bad you don't have a coleman stove and a lantern... Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get some pretty good wind anyway. I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons on hand so this is just a backup, I've got 3 gallons of kerosene, 1 gallon of mix gas for the generator and a half dozen 1# cans of propane plus 3 gallons for the grill. I put the battery charger on my 110ah battery that will run lights and laptops, it was charged, which reminds me I should put it on my spare group 49 battery, suspenders and belt after all. The woodstove is lit, the wood room is about 3/4 full, the outside rack has a half cord under a tarp. In a minute I'm going to roast a chicken for dinner, bake bread and cook some turkey cutlets for lunch tomorrow. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
On 29/10/2012 11:26 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: I have the jack, no lug wrench. Bob R Unless you are stuck on having an original wrench, why not just get a socket the right size and a breaker bar and leave them in the trunk? I have never been a fan of original style lug wrenches in any vehicle. I carry around one of the cross wrenches in my truck but a good breaker bar will generally mean you could get the lugs loose no matter what. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
On 29/10/2012 9:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: No. It was a W112 sedan with a M189 engine in it and air suspension. My all time favorite MB. . . . . . . You can see pictures of it sans glass along with the donor car as well on my web site at www.penoff.com - be sure to look at the More Pictures page of our San Simeon gathering with Uncle Rudy, a beautiful 170 that I still lust after. Dan Ok, I had a look at your photos and am almost afraid to ask, but why is the one car referred to as the deathmobile? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
Was wondering that myself since we all know of the safety virtues of a w126 sedan. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 29/10/2012 9:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: No. It was a W112 sedan with a M189 engine in it and air suspension. My all time favorite MB. . . . . . . You can see pictures of it sans glass along with the donor car as well on my web site at www.penoff.com - be sure to look at the More Pictures page of our San Simeon gathering with Uncle Rudy, a beautiful 170 that I still lust after. Dan Ok, I had a look at your photos and am almost afraid to ask, but why is the one car referred to as the deathmobile? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
That place is a bit out of the way for me so I sometimes bring some 5 gallon fuel containers with me. Also, they turn off their BD pumps for the winter so definitely call in advance! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glows
Yeah in your case with no reference you get nothing. I think you could get away with one of the others going out but not #1. I had the same issue on my '83 240D back years ago. Changed the plugs in the dark at 10F. Now at the first sign of any trouble I change 'em all. Dr. Booth used to chide me for throwing away perfectly good plugs. I countered that the others are nearly failing and I was changing them for a good reason. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:53:45 -0500 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glows Message-ID: caojz3l_pjqcddcj7vpyd6ckjntf-nw4c1ykqmn8myh+-vdm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 '82, 617 w/ pencil plugs. Correct me if I err, the circuitry in the GPR compares the resistance value of #1 with the sum of the other four. Should be 1:4 but at minimum 1:3. In my case #1 was dead (OL:4) - thus no light (and no glow at all?). Replacing #1 accomplished light back on (~5 sec.), easier start and lot less smoke on start. It's glowing again! On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: What year? 617 engine? I did glows on my '81 300TD without removing anything. Its dammed fiddly but can be done. AFAIK no light = no glow at least at first, at some point the light goes out even though glowing may continue. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wheel bearings...
Started hearing that familiar rumble on my '78 240D the other day and knew the time had come for wheel bearings. Got 'em at my local Car Quest Friday with the intention of doing them Saturday (which is why I didn't get them from Q). Saturday came and I had no energy, instead I used my new scale to pre-weigh the grease into little plastic containers from the Chinese takeout. Worked sweet BTW. Today I finally dug in, guessed the driver's side was the immediate culprit, and it appears I was right. Much more play in the outer bearing than in its replacement, a little more wear and the rollers would fall clean out. Guess I waited a little too long for this job. I *think* I did the other side a year or two ago. Anyway the strange part of the whole thing was that the seals I'd gotten are WAY too small, probably 1/4 smaller than the inner bearing itself. Fortunately I'd gotten lucky and didn't damage the existing seal and got it back together with that. W123 bearings are easier to setup with my dial caliper than W201 owing to a larger hub. 60g of grease is much more than I thought it would be, I'd actually weighed out 60.5g as I figured I'd have some wastage which I did in figuring out which way the seal went on. Took it for a ride and the noise is GONE. The guy at Car Quest tried 3 different methods for looking up the seal and came up with only that one part number. I tossed it over to Q, I've got a spare set of bearings now, I should have a spare seal to go with them. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: 60g of grease is much more than I thought it would be ... So 60 g is the correct number? That's what I recalled, but I couldn't verify it in my manuals. Took it for a ride and the noise is GONE. ATTABOY!!! I tossed it over to Q, I've got a spare set of bearings now, I should have a spare seal to go with them. All set for next time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Started hearing that familiar rumble on my '78 240D the other day and knew the time had come for wheel bearings. Got 'em at my local Car Quest Friday with the intention of doing them Saturday (which is why I didn't get them from Q). Saturday came and I had no energy, instead I used my new scale to pre-weigh the grease into little plastic containers from the Chinese takeout. Worked sweet BTW. Today I finally dug in, guessed the driver's side was the immediate culprit, and it appears I was right. Much more play in the outer bearing than in its replacement, a little more wear and the rollers would fall clean out. Guess I waited a little too long for this job. I *think* I did the other side a year or two ago. Anyway the strange part of the whole thing was that the seals I'd gotten are WAY too small, probably 1/4 smaller than the inner bearing itself. Fortunately I'd gotten lucky and didn't damage the existing seal and got it back together with that. W123 bearings are easier to setup with my dial caliper than W201 owing to a larger hub. 60g of grease is much more than I thought it would be, I'd actually weighed out 60.5g as I figured I'd have some wastage which I did in figuring out which way the seal went on. Took it for a ride and the noise is GONE. The guy at Car Quest tried 3 different methods for looking up the seal and came up with only that one part number. I tossed it over to Q, I've got a spare set of bearings now, I should have a spare seal to go with them. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
I found a 1x 8 hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If I keep the end nice and square the points work very well for getting into the relief in the hub and driving out the race. I have another similarly sized round piece for putting them back in. Makes them a breeze, front or rear. Mike On Oct 30, 2012 12:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Started hearing that familiar rumble on my '78 240D the other day and knew the time had come for wheel bearings. Got 'em at my local Car Quest Friday with the intention of doing them Saturday (which is why I didn't get them from Q). Saturday came and I had no energy, instead I used my new scale to pre-weigh the grease into little plastic containers from the Chinese takeout. Worked sweet BTW. Today I finally dug in, guessed the driver's side was the immediate culprit, and it appears I was right. Much more play in the outer bearing than in its replacement, a little more wear and the rollers would fall clean out. Guess I waited a little too long for this job. I *think* I did the other side a year or two ago. Anyway the strange part of the whole thing was that the seals I'd gotten are WAY too small, probably 1/4 smaller than the inner bearing itself. Fortunately I'd gotten lucky and didn't damage the existing seal and got it back together with that. W123 bearings are easier to setup with my dial caliper than W201 owing to a larger hub. 60g of grease is much more than I thought it would be, I'd actually weighed out 60.5g as I figured I'd have some wastage which I did in figuring out which way the seal went on. Took it for a ride and the noise is GONE. The guy at Car Quest tried 3 different methods for looking up the seal and came up with only that one part number. I tossed it over to Q, I've got a spare set of bearings now, I should have a spare seal to go with them. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
Bob Rentfro wrote: I have the jack, no lug wrench. Randy Bennell wrote: Unless you are stuck on having an original wrench, why not just get a socket the right size and a breaker bar and leave them in the trunk? I have never been a fan of original style lug wrenches in any vehicle. I agree - for all except the Mercedes. A $2.00 rubber mallet in the trunk with the jack and lug wrench and even a teenage girl can loosen the lug bolts. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: seller is a criminal. Well, more a profiteer. There is a feedstock variability, but if he is going through his tanks that quickly, he should invest in another location to feed the demand. My Father-in-law used to work with the coop local to him. When he started the price was keyed to costs + maintenance, and if I remember right it was $3-something per gallon - a bit higher than the cost of street Diesel, the price covered only immediate expenses and maintenance. When Diesel prices jumped, they found that they were always sold out, and they were running the coop at a capacity they couldn't maintain. At that point they set a price floor - the old formula - but the selling cost was tied to $.10 over the current cost at some nearby station to reduce demand. It seems irrational to justify selling a comparable product for less money just because the cost of manufacture is lower. Of course the coop was completely honest about this, and the money was reinvested into bigger and better equipment, so that was fine, whereas in your situation at first blush it would seem the gas station was just lining its pockets - but in reality I doubt the station has much relationship to the biodiesel producers, and presumably they were the ones charging higher prices so as to be able to keep up with demand. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG
Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)? Neither has any fuel leaks. Andrew 1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back. 160 gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it. It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth as can be at that speed. Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp. So, 60 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back. That's about $5 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel. And, I get to drive one of the finest cars ever made. Mike On Oct 29, 2012 6:11 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:02:34 + (UTC) dbl...@comcast.net wrote: I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D. (1979 drivetrain, AC removed) The way I drive it, I am surprised there is no hole in the carpet under the accelerator. We generally get 23 MPG with our naturally aspirated 240D/3.0 here at an elevation of 7400 feet. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
On 30/10/2012 12:29 PM, Fmiser wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: I have the jack, no lug wrench. Randy Bennell wrote: Unless you are stuck on having an original wrench, why not just get a socket the right size and a breaker bar and leave them in the trunk? I have never been a fan of original style lug wrenches in any vehicle. I agree - for all except the Mercedes. A $2.00 rubber mallet in the trunk with the jack and lug wrench and even a teenage girl can loosen the lug bolts. --Philip ___ Save $2.00. Use a rock. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG
On 30/10/2012 1:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)? Neither has any fuel leaks. Andrew 1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD It is related to all those bags of heavy cat litter that you haul home in the back of the wagons. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
Agreed, and if you can't find a piece of brass bar stock, a piece of brass pipe also works well. Hexagon shapes would probably work better but I've never seen any around here. Gerry From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com I found a 1x 8 hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If I keep the end nice and square the points work very well for getting into the relief in the hub and driving out the race. I have another similarly sized round piece for putting them back in. Makes them a breeze, front or rear. Mike On Oct 30, 2012 12:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Started hearing that familiar rumble on my '78 240D the other day and knew the time had come for wheel bearings. Got 'em at my local Car Quest Friday with the intention of doing them Saturday (which is why I didn't get them from Q). Saturday came and I had no energy, instead I used my new scale to pre-weigh the grease into little plastic containers from the Chinese takeout. Worked sweet BTW. Today I finally dug in, guessed the driver's side was the immediate culprit, and it appears I was right. Much more play in the outer bearing than in its replacement, a little more wear and the rollers would fall clean out. Guess I waited a little too long for this job. I *think* I did the other side a year or two ago. Anyway the strange part of the whole thing was that the seals I'd gotten are WAY too small, probably 1/4 smaller than the inner bearing itself. Fortunately I'd gotten lucky and didn't damage the existing seal and got it back together with that. W123 bearings are easier to setup with my dial caliper than W201 owing to a larger hub. 60g of grease is much more than I thought it would be, I'd actually weighed out 60.5g as I figured I'd have some wastage which I did in figuring out which way the seal went on. Took it for a ride and the noise is GONE. The guy at Car Quest tried 3 different methods for looking up the seal and came up with only that one part number. I tossed it over to Q, I've got a spare set of bearings now, I should have a spare seal to go with them. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5362 - Release Date: 10/29/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
I have a cheap torque wrench, a short extension, and a 17mm socket in the trunk with a Magic Marker line on the scale at the proper torque. When I buy tires or have mailorder tires mounted, I ask the tire guy to torque the bolts to the mark while holding a five dollar bill in my other hand. If he does an accurate job I give him the five dollar bill. Haven't had any lug, wheel, or disc problems since I started using that method. Bought the torque wrench and socket at a flea market for ten dollars. The torque wrench is almost as long as the breakover handle, so there's never been a problem getting the lugs loose along the road. Gerry Bob Rentfro wrote: I have the jack, no lug wrench. Randy Bennell wrote: Unless you are stuck on having an original wrench, why not just get a socket the right size and a breaker bar and leave them in the trunk? I have never been a fan of original style lug wrenches in any vehicle. I agree - for all except the Mercedes. A $2.00 rubber mallet in the trunk with the jack and lug wrench and even a teenage girl can loosen the lug bolts. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5362 - Release Date: 10/29/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
It's an inside joke that very few people here know. In fact, it has dual meanings. The one I will share is the resemblance to the vehicle in Animal House. I could never find a bust of Emile Faber for the hood, unfortunately. Dan Knowledge is good Sent from my iPad On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 29/10/2012 9:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: No. It was a W112 sedan with a M189 engine in it and air suspension. My all time favorite MB. . . . . . . You can see pictures of it sans glass along with the donor car as well on my web site at www.penoff.com - be sure to look at the More Pictures page of our San Simeon gathering with Uncle Rudy, a beautiful 170 that I still lust after. Dan Ok, I had a look at your photos and am almost afraid to ask, but why is the one car referred to as the deathmobile? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] LWB 123/115 was Re: My Beater 240D Discoveries
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That is a nice story. Those cars are very rare. I've only seen one on the roads. Always wanted one along with the LWB 123 or 115. Wait, there were LWB 123s and 115s? When was this? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG
And Starbucks coffee grounds:) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/10/2012 1:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)? Neither has any fuel leaks. Andrew 1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD It is related to all those bags of heavy cat litter that you haul home in the back of the wagons. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
60g was what I remembered too, the MB tubes are 150g and I remembered having enough for 2 wheels plus a bit so it all worked out. The stuff I removed was green like the MB stuff but some brown also, presumably thats what the MB stuff breaks down into. I used Mobil 1 which is pinkish red. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:50:49 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Message-ID: 20121030105049.2f6850ccadf3820b17390...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: 60g of grease is much more than I thought it would be ... So 60 g is the correct number? That's what I recalled, but I couldn't verify it in my manuals. Took it for a ride and the noise is GONE. ATTABOY!!! I tossed it over to Q, I've got a spare set of bearings now, I should have a spare seal to go with them. All set for next time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LWB 123/115 was Re: My Beater 240D Discoveries
They were built by coachbuilders, not by the factory. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That is a nice story. Those cars are very rare. I've only seen one on the roads. Always wanted one along with the LWB 123 or 115. Wait, there were LWB 123s and 115s? When was this? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LWB 123/115 was Re: My Beater 240D Discoveries
I am almost sure the LWB 123 chassis were built at the MB factory. I had the build card for mine, and it showed the build date and location. Can't speak for the other models. Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: They were built by coachbuilders, not by the factory. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That is a nice story. Those cars are very rare. I've only seen one on the roads. Always wanted one along with the LWB 123 or 115. Wait, there were LWB 123s and 115s? When was this? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LWB 123/115 was Re: My Beater 240D Discoveries
There were LWB 123, 115, and 108 chassis cars. I've never seen a 115 LWB, but I have seen a 108. Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Tim C wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That is a nice story. Those cars are very rare. I've only seen one on the roads. Always wanted one along with the LWB 123 or 115. Wait, there were LWB 123s and 115s? When was this? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
I didn't ask. I intend to go again this Friday, I'll ask then. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:54:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: 1351616069.85996.yext-apple-iph...@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
I have a huge iron punch of some sort I found in the remains of my great grandfather's blacksmith shop. Its long, its heavy and combined with a 3# hammer it took the races out no sweat. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:30:31 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Message-ID: calhj_1bjw-yfdgk18p5kcfem42+aknbzmtf5oc2qydm17iq...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found a 1x 8 hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If I keep the end nice and square the points work very well for getting into the relief in the hub and driving out the race. I have another similarly sized round piece for putting them back in. Makes them a breeze, front or rear. Mike On Oct 30, 2012 12:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
I have a crank shaped one from an early '90s BMW, best jack I've ever seen... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:29:26 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries Message-ID: 20121030122926.e41da9e4.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Bob Rentfro wrote: I have the jack, no lug wrench. Randy Bennell wrote: Unless you are stuck on having an original wrench, why not just get a socket the right size and a breaker bar and leave them in the trunk? I have never been a fan of original style lug wrenches in any vehicle. I agree - for all except the Mercedes. A $2.00 rubber mallet in the trunk with the jack and lug wrench and even a teenage girl can loosen the lug bolts. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG
You don't drive enough? I do 110 miles a day. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:16:28 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG Message-ID: CAC35L=uXqFGpvLn-S0R5ukQiWPwMShF+q4kAEzwPONpbjq-=a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)? Neither has any fuel leaks. Andrew 1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back. 160 gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it. It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth as can be at that speed. Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp. So, 60 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back. That's about $5 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel. And, I get to drive one of the finest cars ever made. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
On 30/10/2012 1:46 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Agreed, and if you can't find a piece of brass bar stock, a piece of brass pipe also works well. Hexagon shapes would probably work better but I've never seen any around here. Gerry From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com I found a 1x 8 hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If I keep the end nice and square the points work very well for getting into the relief in the hub and driving out the race. I have another similarly sized round piece for putting them back in. Makes them a breeze, front or rear. Or, have a look at some place like HF or F and F or ??? for brass punches. I know I am able to get them here at our local equivalent of those kind of store for a reasonable price. And, I trust we all know why we want a brass punch. If you don't know and are afraid to ask, it is because bearings tend to be real hard and shatter if one pounds on them with something hard. So, the soft brass will budge them without breaking them. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
And the other meaning is that you bought it from a funeral home? Randy On 30/10/2012 1:50 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: It's an inside joke that very few people here know. In fact, it has dual meanings. The one I will share is the resemblance to the vehicle in Animal House. I could never find a bust of Emile Faber for the hood, unfortunately. Dan Knowledge is good Sent from my iPad On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 29/10/2012 9:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: No. It was a W112 sedan with a M189 engine in it and air suspension. My all time favorite MB. . . . . . . You can see pictures of it sans glass along with the donor car as well on my web site at www.penoff.com - be sure to look at the More Pictures page of our San Simeon gathering with Uncle Rudy, a beautiful 170 that I still lust after. Dan Ok, I had a look at your photos and am almost afraid to ask, but why is the one car referred to as the deathmobile? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
I have had two pieces of 5/8 brass rod stock for years. One is just mushroomed on the end from being beaten, the other I grind to an edge for knocking out bearing races and such. Best tools I have in my box - you can put them on just about anything and go to town without worrying about chipping or breaking things. Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 30/10/2012 1:46 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Agreed, and if you can't find a piece of brass bar stock, a piece of brass pipe also works well. Hexagon shapes would probably work better but I've never seen any around here. Gerry From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com I found a 1x 8 hexagonal piece of brass bar stock that I use for bearing races. If I keep the end nice and square the points work very well for getting into the relief in the hub and driving out the race. I have another similarly sized round piece for putting them back in. Makes them a breeze, front or rear. Or, have a look at some place like HF or F and F or ??? for brass punches. I know I am able to get them here at our local equivalent of those kind of store for a reasonable price. And, I trust we all know why we want a brass punch. If you don't know and are afraid to ask, it is because bearings tend to be real hard and shatter if one pounds on them with something hard. So, the soft brass will budge them without breaking them. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Must be the plethora of bioD plants in this area. Massive and tiny all putting out product. Enough for use by Naval vessels and cruise ships, as well as the white guilt drivers in VW and other diesels. clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Tim C wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: seller is a criminal. Well, more a profiteer. There is a feedstock variability, but if he is going through his tanks that quickly, he should invest in another location to feed the demand. My Father-in-law used to work with the coop local to him. When he started the price was keyed to costs + maintenance, and if I remember right it was $3-something per gallon - a bit higher than the cost of street Diesel, the price covered only immediate expenses and maintenance. When Diesel prices jumped, they found that they were always sold out, and they were running the coop at a capacity they couldn't maintain. At that point they set a price floor - the old formula - but the selling cost was tied to $.10 over the current cost at some nearby station to reduce demand. It seems irrational to justify selling a comparable product for less money just because the cost of manufacture is lower. Of course the coop was completely honest about this, and the money was reinvested into bigger and better equipment, so that was fine, whereas in your situation at first blush it would seem the gas station was just lining its pockets - but in reality I doubt the station has much relationship to the biodiesel producers, and presumably they were the ones charging higher prices so as to be able to keep up with demand. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries
Bimmer wrenches are really good. Same one used in the W114/115. Gump had the little hook in spot and using that thing was sweet. Tool kit does not use that, so using the straight one is a pain to get wheels off. clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I have a crank shaped one from an early '90s BMW, best jack I've ever seen... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:29:26 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries Message-ID: 20121030122926.e41da9e4.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Bob Rentfro wrote: I have the jack, no lug wrench. Randy Bennell wrote: Unless you are stuck on having an original wrench, why not just get a socket the right size and a breaker bar and leave them in the trunk? I have never been a fan of original style lug wrenches in any vehicle. I agree - for all except the Mercedes. A $2.00 rubber mallet in the trunk with the jack and lug wrench and even a teenage girl can loosen the lug bolts. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
If you are pounding on a bearing race anywhere near hard enough to break it upon installation you aren't doing something right. I don't worry too much about what the old ones get beat out with. Steel punch works fine and saves on the good brass ones for the really tough ones. I have never beaten on a race hard enough to break it and I have done some that ended up having to be cut out by slicing with a plasma torch. Mike On Oct 30, 2012 5:49 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Last time I did this I took the new bearings and hubs to the local machine shop and the pressed out the old, pressed in the new for a grand total of $10-. Now I have my own hydraulic press. I'm not big on pounding bearings either! Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
...and of course the best tool to drive the new bearing race in is the old bearing race!!! Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: If you are pounding on a bearing race anywhere near hard enough to break it upon installation you aren't doing something right. I don't worry too much about what the old ones get beat out with. Steel punch works fine and saves on the good brass ones for the really tough ones. I have never beaten on a race hard enough to break it and I have done some that ended up having to be cut out by slicing with a plasma torch. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
Yes indeed. I learned that by watching a mechanic do it years ago. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: ...and of course the best tool to drive the new bearing race in is the old bearing race!!! Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: If you are pounding on a bearing race anywhere near hard enough to break it upon installation you aren't doing something right. I don't worry too much about what the old ones get beat out with. Steel punch works fine and saves on the good brass ones for the really tough ones. I have never beaten on a race hard enough to break it and I have done some that ended up having to be cut out by slicing with a plasma torch. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
Or a nice little brass hammer... Mike On Oct 30, 2012 6:09 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: ...and of course the best tool to drive the new bearing race in is the old bearing race!!! Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: If you are pounding on a bearing race anywhere near hard enough to break it upon installation you aren't doing something right. I don't worry too much about what the old ones get beat out with. Steel punch works fine and saves on the good brass ones for the really tough ones. I have never beaten on a race hard enough to break it and I have done some that ended up having to be cut out by slicing with a plasma torch. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
What's nice about using the old race is that you end up seating it uniformly in the hub. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Or a nice little brass hammer... Mike On Oct 30, 2012 6:09 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: ...and of course the best tool to drive the new bearing race in is the old bearing race!!! Dan On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: If you are pounding on a bearing race anywhere near hard enough to break it upon installation you aren't doing something right. I don't worry too much about what the old ones get beat out with. Steel punch works fine and saves on the good brass ones for the really tough ones. I have never beaten on a race hard enough to break it and I have done some that ended up having to be cut out by slicing with a plasma torch. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] link to buymbpart
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:29:52 -0700 Alan Clarke alanc...@pacbell.net wrote: Is the link to buymbpart incorrect on thehttp://www.okiebenz.com/parts/ page. Shouldn't it be http://www.buymbparts.biz/ nothttp://www.buymbparts.com/... Yes, you are correct. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). They have two blends, B5 and B100. The B100 pump is around back, drive around the left side and back into it. The guys are very helpful, and they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm. The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any difference in performance. On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Do not run B100. It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your pocketbook. IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses. B20 is the strongest I would advise. Much over B5 does not increase the benefit to the engine or cleaning up gunk. Put a gallon in your tank from a 5 gallon container when you fill up. B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG. It runs just as quiet at B2 as with more. You could run veggie oil for the same impact on cetane and smoothness clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote: I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). They have two blends, B5 and B100. The B100 pump is around back, drive around the left side and back into it. The guys are very helpful, and they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm. The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any difference in performance. On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Thanks. I did not realize that. I ran B100 for ears in my Yanmar with no adverse effect. It's a good thing then that I only put in a 1/2 tankI'll refill with dino tomorrow to dilute. On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:48 PM, clay monroe wrote: Do not run B100. It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your pocketbook. IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses. B20 is the strongest I would advise. Much over B5 does not increase the benefit to the engine or cleaning up gunk. Put a gallon in your tank from a 5 gallon container when you fill up. B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG. It runs just as quiet at B2 as with more. You could run veggie oil for the same impact on cetane and smoothness clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote: I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). They have two blends, B5 and B100. The B100 pump is around back, drive around the left side and back into it. The guys are very helpful, and they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm. The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any difference in performance. On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings...
I have an old worn bearing/gear shaft from some English transmission that has a nice notch on one end that I use to knock out races. I use a 16 oz. hammer - never had one break. I do rotate around the race quite a bit so no one side gets too much pressure. I also have a bunch of larger sockets, and usually one will be about right for driving in the new race. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: If you are pounding on a bearing race anywhere near hard enough to break it upon installation you aren't doing something right. I don't worry too much about what the old ones get beat out with. Steel punch works fine and saves on the good brass ones for the really tough ones. I have never beaten on a race hard enough to break it and I have done some that ended up having to be cut out by slicing with a plasma torch. Mike On Oct 30, 2012 5:49 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Last time I did this I took the new bearings and hubs to the local machine shop and the pressed out the old, pressed in the new for a grand total of $10-. Now I have my own hydraulic press. I'm not big on pounding bearings either! Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearings... Did u get the $10 scale at horror fright? I always found that pounding out the races is the worst part of this job. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Delivery valve seals and hoses could be replaced with viton. Problem solved except for injectors. What injector issues arise? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:48 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Do not run B100. It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your pocketbook. IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses. B20 is the strongest I would advise. Much over B5 does not increase the benefit to the engine or cleaning up gunk. Put a gallon in your tank from a 5 gallon container when you fill up. B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG. It runs just as quiet at B2 as with more. You could run veggie oil for the same impact on cetane and smoothness clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote: I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). They have two blends, B5 and B100. The B100 pump is around back, drive around the left side and back into it. The guys are very helpful, and they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm. The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any difference in performance. On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Yeah that should be interesting! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well let's here about your escape from New York! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
I'll try and re-figure out photo-bucket tomorrow. On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Yeah that should be interesting! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well let's here about your escape from New York! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed....
So...stopped for fuel in my 240D and it wouldn't start. No problem, sez I, I will just touch across the solenoid like before and I am on my way. Well it didn't work. Plenty of sparks, some clicking, but no turning over. Did the solenoid crap out all the way? And yes I mechanically massaged the starter. On the bright side it was $2.50 to get hauled 17 miles to my house (thank you State Farm). So do I go after the solenoid first? I plan on replacing all of the positive and negative cabling also. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed....
I'd just replace the starter complete, less hassle. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed....
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:45:12 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: So do I go after the solenoid first? I plan on replacing all of the positive and negative cabling also. As Peter said, replace the starter. You can get a Bosch rebuilt from Rusty. (That's Bosch rebuilt as opposed to rebuilt Bosch.) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] link to buymbpart
You are correct. It is buyMBparts.biz Is the link to buymbpart incorrect on thehttp://www.okiebenz.com/parts/ page. Shouldn't it be http://www.buymbparts.biz/ nothttp://www.buymbparts.com/... alan 85 turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Clay, i don't know where you got this from, but these concerns range from grossly exaggerated to simply untrue. i've got over 80K miles on almost exclusively straight BioD in my W123 over the last 8 years or so, and i'm one of only thousands here in the Bay Area alone that have done so without problem. i didn't replace any fuel lines; decided i'd wait to see how much truth there might be behind the alleged need for it, since it wasn't like fuel line failures are sudden or catastrophic and i would be watching fuel lines in any old diesel vehicle anyway. when the Return Lines *finally* began to show just the tiniest hint of seepage this year, i finally replaced them; all the rest of the lines look good, and i have no idea how old any of them were when i first got the car with ~120K on it. i don't know what's allegedly supposed to happen to the IP or the injectors, but i haven't seen or heard of it happening to any of the BioD MBZs in the BioD fleet here yet. one of the reasons the MBZs are so popular for this sort of stuff is specifically because the inline IPs are so robust. to the contrary, some people claim that the lubricity of BioD is *easier* on the injection parts than #2. i have no idea what BioD could do to a metal fuel tank, and have never before heard of any issue or concern related to such. the one thing i do see yield to BioD is the insulating ring around the filler pipe; i've replaced the one in our car twice in the last 8 years. (it's not like that's a big deal; it's just ugly.) as for it running just as quiet at B2 as with more, i don't have great hearing, but i'd have to differ there too,.. but that's not why i'm running it. cheers! e '85 300D 200K+ miles (80K+ on B99) On 30/Oct/12 16:48, clay monroe wrote: Do not run B100. It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your pocketbook. IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses. B20 is the strongest I would advise. Much over B5 does not increase the benefit to the engine or cleaning up gunk. Put a gallon in your tank from a 5 gallon container when you fill up. B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG. It runs just as quiet at B2 as with more. You could run veggie oil for the same impact on cetane and smoothness clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote: I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). They have two blends, B5 and B100. The B100 pump is around back, drive around the left side and back into it. The guys are very helpful, and they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm. The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any difference in performance. On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday. Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel. I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean. I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this. Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work. -Curt ___
