[MBZ] One lonely car message
So I was driving home fairly late tonight, and the gentle red blinking glow on my DEF switch was very nice. It's not too bright at all for night, but not too dim either, you can just detect it in the daylight, if you shade it a bit maybe. It confirms that the heater is working as expected, now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Adventure of the day
#1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine
I gave the thing a look over online. Seems like a viable solution for the beer guy who wants some top level beer. Not meant for the crafty beer hobbyist, but the guy who has cash and likes the cachet of making his own really good beer. No need to make gallons of the stuff, but a gallon at a time of all sorts of interesting beers. I like to mess around with all the little tasks involved in brewing. Then getting to make dozens of bottles to age and drink over time. I get three or four batches a year. If I could pop out a fresh beer every week, that would be really fun. To drink. Not sure I am ready for a beer appliance though clay On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Sounds very cool, but $1500 seems a far reach. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:01 AM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine If you were one of the top guys who spent much of the 2000s trying to get Microsoft to develop tablet computers, you might be ready for a drink. Or two. Fortunately, that guy - Bill Mitchell - has figured out how to easily produce a never-ending supply of absolutely top-notch beer, in any style and flavor you can imagine. After leaving Microsoft in 2010, Mitchell started a company called PicoBrew with his food-scientist brother and a gifted hardware hacker he used to work with in Redmond. Together they created a dream machine for small-scale brewing that they're unveiling Monday. Called the PicoBrew Zymatic, it's a device the size of a large microwave oven that almost completely automates the process of producing beer. The idea was to take the drudgery out of brewing, without sacrificing the fun or the gratification that comes from creating your own batches, Mitchell said. The beauty for us, especially in beer-making, is it's this great fusion of science and cooking, of chemistry and cooking, he said. We didn't want to lose any of that - in fact we want to enhance that portion of it - and just take out the bad portions. They've also applied modern technologies to the ancient art. Zymatic machines were designed to be Internet appliances. They are controlled by open-source software, connected to the Web and managed through a browser. PicoBrew's software dashboard is used to concoct recipes and adjust brewing cycles. Users can share recipes through the service and monitor the brewing process remotely on their smartphone. Data collected by this online service - from users who opt to share their brewing activity - will be used to continue refining the machines, which are also designed to be hacked and modified as buyers see fit. About 1 million people in the U.S. brew their own beer, from President Obama on down, according to the American Homebrewers Association. But it remains a niche hobby because home-brewing can be a hassle. To make a batch, you may spend most of a day cleaning and sterilizing vessels and implements, then heating, mixing and cooling the ingredients. It's also tricky to precisely repeat the process, which is what finally convinced Mitchell there had to be a better way. While still an executive leading various Microsoft hardware projects, Mitchell, 50, began brewing more and more advanced beers at his Medina home, including Belgian ales, stouts and barley wines. A turning point came after he produced a particularly great stout for a soccer-team party. Others raved and asked for more, but he was unable to get his special recipe to work again. Mitchell didn't have to look far for help. His brother, Jim, is a physicist and home-brewer who designs food-processing facilities. Their late grandfather was a noted General Foods scientist whose inventions led to products such as Cool Whip, Tang, Jell-O and Pop Rocks candy. We said, 'We should be able to come up with something that automates that process, like a superautomatic espresso maker,'? Mitchell said. Goals included a system with precise temperature control that could produce repeat batches and that could be cleaned in a dishwasher. At first they tinkered with things like robotic arms and complicated valve systems. Eventually they gave up trying to mechanically add and remove ingredients. Instead they figured out a way to circulate water at different temperatures through the dry ingredients. To make a batch with a Zymatic, you select a recipe in the browser. Then you measure and pour grain into a plastic tray and the hops into specially designed filter baskets. You then slide them into the machine. A small Cornelius keg is filled with water and attached to the machine, which circulates the water back and forth. About 3 ½ hours later the batch is done. You add yeast to the keg, refrigerate it for a week or so and the beer is ready. The machines are developed and assembled by a team of eight
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Where did you get the steamer, Clay? My pressure washer is a PIA with all the water flying around, and it doesn't do a very good job anyway. Thanks, Gerry From: clay redgh...@comcast.net #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6718 - Release Date: 10/02/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine
A much easier way: http://gizmodo.com/how-you-can-brew-beer-in-your-own-digestive-tract-1439889846 --R On 10/4/13 3:29 AM, clay wrote: I gave the thing a look over online. Seems like a viable solution for the beer guy who wants some top level beer. Not meant for the crafty beer hobbyist, but the guy who has cash and likes the cachet of making his own really good beer. No need to make gallons of the stuff, but a gallon at a time of all sorts of interesting beers. I like to mess around with all the little tasks involved in brewing. Then getting to make dozens of bottles to age and drink over time. I get three or four batches a year. If I could pop out a fresh beer every week, that would be really fun. To drink. Not sure I am ready for a beer appliance though clay On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Sounds very cool, but $1500 seems a far reach. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:01 AM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine If you were one of the top guys who spent much of the 2000s trying to get Microsoft to develop tablet computers, you might be ready for a drink. Or two. Fortunately, that guy - Bill Mitchell - has figured out how to easily produce a never-ending supply of absolutely top-notch beer, in any style and flavor you can imagine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
This is a M104 engine? Hendrik with an oily 103 On 04/10/13 16:51, clay wrote: #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One lonely car message
Yep; an ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] One lonely car message So I was driving home fairly late tonight, and the gentle red blinking glow on my DEF switch was very nice. It's not too bright at all for night, but not too dim either, you can just detect it in the daylight, if you shade it a bit maybe. It confirms that the heater is working as expected, now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] slow day
So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home-brewing
Have you considered doing the keezer thing? Randy On 04/10/2013 2:29 AM, clay wrote: I gave the thing a look over online. Seems like a viable solution for the beer guy who wants some top level beer. Not meant for the crafty beer hobbyist, but the guy who has cash and likes the cachet of making his own really good beer. No need to make gallons of the stuff, but a gallon at a time of all sorts of interesting beers. I like to mess around with all the little tasks involved in brewing. Then getting to make dozens of bottles to age and drink over time. I get three or four batches a year. If I could pop out a fresh beer every week, that would be really fun. To drink. Not sure I am ready for a beer appliance though clay On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Sounds very cool, but $1500 seems a far reach. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:01 AM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine If you were one of the top guys who spent much of the 2000s trying to get Microsoft to develop tablet computers, you might be ready for a drink. Or two. Fortunately, that guy - Bill Mitchell - has figured out how to easily produce a never-ending supply of absolutely top-notch beer, in any style and flavor you can imagine. After leaving Microsoft in 2010, Mitchell started a company called PicoBrew with his food-scientist brother and a gifted hardware hacker he used to work with in Redmond. Together they created a dream machine for small-scale brewing that they're unveiling Monday. Called the PicoBrew Zymatic, it's a device the size of a large microwave oven that almost completely automates the process of producing beer. The idea was to take the drudgery out of brewing, without sacrificing the fun or the gratification that comes from creating your own batches, Mitchell said. The beauty for us, especially in beer-making, is it's this great fusion of science and cooking, of chemistry and cooking, he said. We didn't want to lose any of that - in fact we want to enhance that portion of it - and just take out the bad portions. They've also applied modern technologies to the ancient art. Zymatic machines were designed to be Internet appliances. They are controlled by open-source software, connected to the Web and managed through a browser. PicoBrew's software dashboard is used to concoct recipes and adjust brewing cycles. Users can share recipes through the service and monitor the brewing process remotely on their smartphone. Data collected by this online service - from users who opt to share their brewing activity - will be used to continue refining the machines, which are also designed to be hacked and modified as buyers see fit. About 1 million people in the U.S. brew their own beer, from President Obama on down, according to the American Homebrewers Association. But it remains a niche hobby because home-brewing can be a hassle. To make a batch, you may spend most of a day cleaning and sterilizing vessels and implements, then heating, mixing and cooling the ingredients. It's also tricky to precisely repeat the process, which is what finally convinced Mitchell there had to be a better way. While still an executive leading various Microsoft hardware projects, Mitchell, 50, began brewing more and more advanced beers at his Medina home, including Belgian ales, stouts and barley wines. A turning point came after he produced a particularly great stout for a soccer-team party. Others raved and asked for more, but he was unable to get his special recipe to work again. Mitchell didn't have to look far for help. His brother, Jim, is a physicist and home-brewer who designs food-processing facilities. Their late grandfather was a noted General Foods scientist whose inventions led to products such as Cool Whip, Tang, Jell-O and Pop Rocks candy. We said, 'We should be able to come up with something that automates that process, like a superautomatic espresso maker,'? Mitchell said. Goals included a system with precise temperature control that could produce repeat batches and that could be cleaned in a dishwasher. At first they tinkered with things like robotic arms and complicated valve systems. Eventually they gave up trying to mechanically add and remove ingredients. Instead they figured out a way to circulate water at different temperatures through the dry ingredients. To make a batch with a Zymatic, you select a recipe in the browser. Then you measure and pour grain into a plastic tray and the hops into specially designed filter baskets. You then slide them into the machine. A small Cornelius keg is filled with water and attached to the machine, which circulates the water back and forth. About 3 ½ hours later the batch is done. You add yeast to the keg, refrigerate it for a week or so and the beer is ready. The machines are developed and assembled by a
Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine
I am going to go with sharp memory, given the IQ of the ferry terminal workers of that era. The need to serve hundreds of passengers in minutes would require a few barrels direct form corporate a few blocks away instead of allowing staff to run machines and froth milk. clay On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Peter wrote: Complete automation? Gotta be using extract, which means they aren't really brewing anyway. Buy it at the grocery. Extract - reminds me of a starbucks latte I bought at the ferry pier years ago in Seattle. It was a one time purchase so memory, I assume, fails. I could swear they were using one of those extract spray things that they use to serve beer or soft drinks - the thing was on a long plastic hose. Did anyone else ever buy starbucks coffee served that way? Seemed totally odd years ago, but that was before the third wave coffee brew movement started. Third wave seems to have brought starbucks back to some rational espresso brewing, it seems. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
this is really farce and theater. the government is not actually shut down. the oppressive wars of american ideological zealotry, foreign and abroad, continue as usual and that is the real cost of government. checks still being mailed out to people. you still get felt up at the airport as far as i can tell, the main issue is that the national parks are closed. a bunch of other people who don't do much anyway get a paid vacation On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Sad.. but if we gave all government workers full pay and sent them home.. we would save more money... An elephant: A mouse built by government workers capable of carrying the paperwork for the project to build the mouse. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
Keep it in your pants, Gary. The truth will come out, but will not put you in good light if it comes from you. We all know what is going on and will not put Trent in a positive light. You divorced yourself from Bimby. Move on by letting the feces hit the fan all by itself. If you really want to get splattered, then pipe up. It will fly everywhere and the guy with his mouth open will be one of the first hit. clay On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for reasons i cannot fathom. why not, wilton? he is a crook using the trade name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just sit idly by and let him do it. why? On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Please don't, Gary. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker? it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy has done On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth... despite the ubiquity of the internet. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Restitution FIRST! Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker? October Contact: Trent Fiorini (815) 564-0136 Tom Benedikt (770) 609-8795 1-800-741-5252 *buyMBparts Inc.* October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the Mercedes. I am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that. We are making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long time customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohphttp://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp** P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_** ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw== http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp** P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_** ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw==http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw== and *will continue to have this site for you.* We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRhttp://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR** D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww== http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR** D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_**eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC** jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B**_8ukiwvJ6ww==http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRD9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVCjZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww== to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it will be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately buymbparts.com was not available. Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer *Genuine*, *OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this business, and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being our customers, and look forward to serving you soon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_ okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_
Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
Gary, You have been yapping about this on all manner of forums. The data is out there. You put it out. It is not going away. Let other people put supporting data there. The need to reach a critical mass so it goes viral will require you to grin and bear it. Do not be an Obama, trying to protect everyone from their own worst impulses. clay On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: this conversation began with andrew mentioning how trent's deeds remain largely unknown. it is piling on in this very small group but my customer list is about 6,000, maybe 100 or so have contact with this list. the case is not closed for those 5900 people who think they are buying from buymbparts but are actually buying from trent, whose answer to what he did was basically that he doesnt' know why anyone is upset as their credit card companies have or will make them whole financially. why should i not document what has happened to those 5900 people who don't know what happened and haven't yet given him money and sat wondering for weeks where their parts are? imagine you were doing business with a crook and i had documentation that he was a crook, but i let you just give him money without informing you? what sort of person would you think i was when you discovered your parts were never coming and i knew that this was a likely outcome beforehand? this is really essentially what i am being asked to do and i have done so for a long time against my better judgment for no other reason than i have feared anger and retribution from this group. it just doesn't seem that good a reason not to do the right thing, either on moral or pragmatic grounds. the reality is that very few of you buy from me and those who do have experienced outstanding service and value that they probably wouldn't discard out of protest over trent's exposure to an unknowing public. and those who aren't buying from me, especially those who won't consider it due to their established hate bias against me, well, are they going to now stop buying from me more than they are already not buying from me? there is a kind of group psychosis going on here, i would say unusual but it actually seems fairly common. it may just be all groups create a mythologizing orthodoxy. the official public veneration of rusty, my absolute villification, the insanely irrational support for trent (talk about a religious cult in the making!) -- it's all lunacy. while many of you might be rational and decent people individually, as a group you are fairly crazy and i am wondering if this opposition to my exposing trent to the unwary is simply part of this madness and nothing more. i think maybe it's just the nature of groups as such to get crazy and support each other publicly in that crazy. but i really don't want to join into crazy time and will try to avoid doing so i'd like a reason not to expose trent that makes sense to me so it's something i do for some other reason than fear of your anger and retribution On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In this case its not to protect Trent its to protect you. None of us defend Trent, his sins have been well documented, that case is closed. If you sent an email now detailing everything it did it just makes you look petty because all you're really doing is piling it on. Now if you wanted to send out a note about how great things are with you and you're having a special super sale on oil filters or something thats totally within bounds and might even drive some business. Which reminds me when I get back from vacation and a business trip I need to make an order with you. -Curt Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 11:39:07 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker? Message-ID: CACioK3vh78zoZv6hYF9gto_Z3NXOeex57R=puybqtnhbn8p...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for reasons i cannot fathom. why not, wilton? he is a crook using the trade name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just sit idly by and let him do it. why? On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Please don't, Gary. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] slow day
We'll gladly send some experts north to help ya with that, but ya may not wanta let 'em in. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] slow day So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
It is one of the little home steam cleaning machines. I picked it up at Goodwill for ten bucks. Mostly used it to sterilize rental homes. Good on urine and encrusted gunk on bathroom floors. Got to do an adequate job on the underside of a car. Little yellow one pint model with a hose and attachments. I used the steam nozzle and patience. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Where did you get the steamer, Clay? My pressure washer is a PIA with all the water flying around, and it doesn't do a very good job anyway. Thanks, Gerry From: clay redgh...@comcast.net #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6718 - Release Date: 10/02/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
yes. inline 6. On Oct 4, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: This is a M104 engine? Hendrik with an oily 103 On 04/10/13 16:51, clay wrote: #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Sometimes you just have to celebrate the checks and balances form of government. We can see it in action now. It allows no one part of the government to over power the other, and run rough shod over the governed. As long as they keep at each others necks, it is all good. When it implodes, then it can be built up clean and sparkly. Better fit and able to meet the real needs of the populace. Local liberal coverage is trying to place blame, but in reading the reporting of statement made by out states congress critters, they are far more entrenched in their positions than the right. Less willing to sacrifice their own pay to help their staffers, and have a giant sense of entitlement to suckle at the public teat, while those across the aisle are putting pay in escrow for their staff, or making a cut equivalent to the one taken by the rest of the federal employees. Compromise is not a game the left is willing to play. So, the show down continues. clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home-brewing
nope. I like the 5 gallon at a time game clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: Have you considered doing the keezer thing? Randy On 04/10/2013 2:29 AM, clay wrote: I gave the thing a look over online. Seems like a viable solution for the beer guy who wants some top level beer. Not meant for the crafty beer hobbyist, but the guy who has cash and likes the cachet of making his own really good beer. No need to make gallons of the stuff, but a gallon at a time of all sorts of interesting beers. I like to mess around with all the little tasks involved in brewing. Then getting to make dozens of bottles to age and drink over time. I get three or four batches a year. If I could pop out a fresh beer every week, that would be really fun. To drink. Not sure I am ready for a beer appliance though clay On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Sounds very cool, but $1500 seems a far reach. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:01 AM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine If you were one of the top guys who spent much of the 2000s trying to get Microsoft to develop tablet computers, you might be ready for a drink. Or two. Fortunately, that guy - Bill Mitchell - has figured out how to easily produce a never-ending supply of absolutely top-notch beer, in any style and flavor you can imagine. After leaving Microsoft in 2010, Mitchell started a company called PicoBrew with his food-scientist brother and a gifted hardware hacker he used to work with in Redmond. Together they created a dream machine for small-scale brewing that they're unveiling Monday. Called the PicoBrew Zymatic, it's a device the size of a large microwave oven that almost completely automates the process of producing beer. The idea was to take the drudgery out of brewing, without sacrificing the fun or the gratification that comes from creating your own batches, Mitchell said. The beauty for us, especially in beer-making, is it's this great fusion of science and cooking, of chemistry and cooking, he said. We didn't want to lose any of that - in fact we want to enhance that portion of it - and just take out the bad portions. They've also applied modern technologies to the ancient art. Zymatic machines were designed to be Internet appliances. They are controlled by open-source software, connected to the Web and managed through a browser. PicoBrew's software dashboard is used to concoct recipes and adjust brewing cycles. Users can share recipes through the service and monitor the brewing process remotely on their smartphone. Data collected by this online service - from users who opt to share their brewing activity - will be used to continue refining the machines, which are also designed to be hacked and modified as buyers see fit. About 1 million people in the U.S. brew their own beer, from President Obama on down, according to the American Homebrewers Association. But it remains a niche hobby because home-brewing can be a hassle. To make a batch, you may spend most of a day cleaning and sterilizing vessels and implements, then heating, mixing and cooling the ingredients. It's also tricky to precisely repeat the process, which is what finally convinced Mitchell there had to be a better way. While still an executive leading various Microsoft hardware projects, Mitchell, 50, began brewing more and more advanced beers at his Medina home, including Belgian ales, stouts and barley wines. A turning point came after he produced a particularly great stout for a soccer-team party. Others raved and asked for more, but he was unable to get his special recipe to work again. Mitchell didn't have to look far for help. His brother, Jim, is a physicist and home-brewer who designs food-processing facilities. Their late grandfather was a noted General Foods scientist whose inventions led to products such as Cool Whip, Tang, Jell-O and Pop Rocks candy. We said, 'We should be able to come up with something that automates that process, like a superautomatic espresso maker,'? Mitchell said. Goals included a system with precise temperature control that could produce repeat batches and that could be cleaned in a dishwasher. At first they tinkered with things like robotic arms and complicated valve systems. Eventually they gave up trying to mechanically add and remove ingredients. Instead they figured out a way to circulate water at different temperatures through the dry ingredients. To make a batch with a Zymatic, you select a recipe in the browser. Then you measure and pour grain into a plastic tray and the hops into specially designed filter baskets. You then slide them into the machine. A small Cornelius keg is filled with water and attached to the machine, which circulates
Re: [MBZ] slow day
The thing that has me confused (and I am saying this from a totally neutral point of view) is how the Republicans can try to change something that has been voted into law? After all, the ACA passed both houses and was signed into law by the President. The only way to change or rescind the law would be through the legislative process. With this in mind, there is no way to short circuit a piece of legislation based on our current process. I realize that there have been numerous attempts to vote on repealing the ACA, but they have all failed to-date. Short of there being success in this manner, I see the current approach as being fundamentally flawed and totally inappropriate. Confused Dan On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sometimes you just have to celebrate the checks and balances form of government. We can see it in action now. It allows no one part of the government to over power the other, and run rough shod over the governed. As long as they keep at each others necks, it is all good. When it implodes, then it can be built up clean and sparkly. Better fit and able to meet the real needs of the populace. Local liberal coverage is trying to place blame, but in reading the reporting of statement made by out states congress critters, they are far more entrenched in their positions than the right. Less willing to sacrifice their own pay to help their staffers, and have a giant sense of entitlement to suckle at the public teat, while those across the aisle are putting pay in escrow for their staff, or making a cut equivalent to the one taken by the rest of the federal employees. Compromise is not a game the left is willing to play. So, the show down continues. clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
The president has changed the law that Congress passed (barely, but that is another story) by postponing the employer mandate by 1 year. Congress said, Do this and the president decided to do something else. Not sure what consequences there are to that unilateral action (which is not really allowed) but there you go. Seems like the whole thing is just one giant mess. --R On 10/4/13 3:28 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: The thing that has me confused (and I am saying this from a totally neutral point of view) is how the Republicans can try to change something that has been voted into law? After all, the ACA passed both houses and was signed into law by the President. The only way to change or rescind the law would be through the legislative process. With this in mind, there is no way to short circuit a piece of legislation based on our current process. I realize that there have been numerous attempts to vote on repealing the ACA, but they have all failed to-date. Short of there being success in this manner, I see the current approach as being fundamentally flawed and totally inappropriate. Confused Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
alternatively i can reclaim the bimby that i created On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Keep it in your pants, Gary. The truth will come out, but will not put you in good light if it comes from you. We all know what is going on and will not put Trent in a positive light. You divorced yourself from Bimby. Move on by letting the feces hit the fan all by itself. If you really want to get splattered, then pipe up. It will fly everywhere and the guy with his mouth open will be one of the first hit. clay On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for reasons i cannot fathom. why not, wilton? he is a crook using the trade name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just sit idly by and let him do it. why? On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Please don't, Gary. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker? it's really at the point where i want to just send an email out to my customer list (which goes back over a decade) documenting what this guy has done On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: It's amazing there are so many people who don't know the Truth... despite the ubiquity of the internet. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Restitution FIRST! Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@ ** constructivity.net richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker? October Contact: Trent Fiorini (815) 564-0136 Tom Benedikt (770) 609-8795 1-800-741-5252 *buyMBparts Inc.* October is here already, Time to think about winterizing the Mercedes. I am waiting to see what specials I can get for you to help with that. We are making some web store changes, for those of you that have been a long time customer, you have seen changes before, buymbparts.com is not part of buymbparts Inc. That's why we have www.buymbparts.biz http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp** P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_** ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw== http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohp** P5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-**f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_** ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-**ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw== http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEBjPTOiFD6sBOpohpP5iTiAqyaU5akR6edOJVF-f8MRQgStBZQKQ-JtjOfPk3aj_ARVzLAf_yE61G3URucYldi-ddsgwW04XOdOVTqjdZkDw== and *will continue to have this site for you.* We are *adding,not changing*www.buybenzpart.com http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR** D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww== http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=**001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXR** D9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_**eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVC** jZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B**_8ukiwvJ6ww== http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001pSfNbdU4qKEoijehnnllHGJOKXRD9FnhE5qglj8ym5LSJH_eN2Op57jip1YHJOzsJnwivQ4KUgUVCjZKOwoZ5VyrsUEe8Fx89Ty7dqCm75B_8ukiwvJ6ww== to the web store. nothing has changed except the appeareance, and it will be easier yet to use. We need the .com pressence, and unfortunately buymbparts.com was not available. Nothing with the quality of parts has changed, we still offer *Genuine*, *OEM,* and *OES* parts. Rusty has done a great job creating this business, and we will continue to carry it on. I want to thank you all for being our customers, and look forward to serving you soon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_ okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/
Re: [MBZ] slow day
No doubt but that our government would welcome them with open arms. One of the things that our government loves is studies on various things. They could work on that for years. Randy On 04/10/2013 1:55 PM, WILTON wrote: We'll gladly send some experts north to help ya with that, but ya may not wanta let 'em in. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] slow day So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Something passed that nobody read. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. It all comes back to bite you in the butt down the road. clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: The thing that has me confused (and I am saying this from a totally neutral point of view) is how the Republicans can try to change something that has been voted into law? After all, the ACA passed both houses and was signed into law by the President. The only way to change or rescind the law would be through the legislative process. With this in mind, there is no way to short circuit a piece of legislation based on our current process. I realize that there have been numerous attempts to vote on repealing the ACA, but they have all failed to-date. Short of there being success in this manner, I see the current approach as being fundamentally flawed and totally inappropriate. Confused Dan On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sometimes you just have to celebrate the checks and balances form of government. We can see it in action now. It allows no one part of the government to over power the other, and run rough shod over the governed. As long as they keep at each others necks, it is all good. When it implodes, then it can be built up clean and sparkly. Better fit and able to meet the real needs of the populace. Local liberal coverage is trying to place blame, but in reading the reporting of statement made by out states congress critters, they are far more entrenched in their positions than the right. Less willing to sacrifice their own pay to help their staffers, and have a giant sense of entitlement to suckle at the public teat, while those across the aisle are putting pay in escrow for their staff, or making a cut equivalent to the one taken by the rest of the federal employees. Compromise is not a game the left is willing to play. So, the show down continues. clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Part of me says, You're welcome to them, please take 'em, but I wouldn't wanta crap on my good friends to the north like that. You're too nice a people to foist such on ya, eh?;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day No doubt but that our government would welcome them with open arms. One of the things that our government loves is studies on various things. They could work on that for years. Randy On 04/10/2013 1:55 PM, WILTON wrote: We'll gladly send some experts north to help ya with that, but ya may not wanta let 'em in. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] slow day So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Amen. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day The thing that has me confused (and I am saying this from a totally neutral point of view) is how the Republicans can try to change something that has been voted into law? After all, the ACA passed both houses and was signed into law by the President. The only way to change or rescind the law would be through the legislative process. With this in mind, there is no way to short circuit a piece of legislation based on our current process. I realize that there have been numerous attempts to vote on repealing the ACA, but they have all failed to-date. Short of there being success in this manner, I see the current approach as being fundamentally flawed and totally inappropriate. Confused Dan On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sometimes you just have to celebrate the checks and balances form of government. We can see it in action now. It allows no one part of the government to over power the other, and run rough shod over the governed. As long as they keep at each others necks, it is all good. When it implodes, then it can be built up clean and sparkly. Better fit and able to meet the real needs of the populace. Local liberal coverage is trying to place blame, but in reading the reporting of statement made by out states congress critters, they are far more entrenched in their positions than the right. Less willing to sacrifice their own pay to help their staffers, and have a giant sense of entitlement to suckle at the public teat, while those across the aisle are putting pay in escrow for their staff, or making a cut equivalent to the one taken by the rest of the federal employees. Compromise is not a game the left is willing to play. So, the show down continues. clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
I wonder how hard it would be to make such a thing. I assume it is not much more that an electric kettle with a means of directing the steam. Is there any sort of pop-off valve as a safety device? Randy On 04/10/2013 1:57 PM, clay wrote: It is one of the little home steam cleaning machines. I picked it up at Goodwill for ten bucks. Mostly used it to sterilize rental homes. Good on urine and encrusted gunk on bathroom floors. Got to do an adequate job on the underside of a car. Little yellow one pint model with a hose and attachments. I used the steam nozzle and patience. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Where did you get the steamer, Clay? My pressure washer is a PIA with all the water flying around, and it doesn't do a very good job anyway. Thanks, Gerry From: clay redgh...@comcast.net #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6718 - Release Date: 10/02/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
On 04/10/2013 3:31 PM, WILTON wrote: Part of me says, You're welcome to them, please take 'em, but I wouldn't wanta crap on my good friends to the north like that. You're too nice a people to foist such on ya, eh? ;) Wilton You are a true gentleman, Wilton. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
I actually read a version of the law before the one that had to be passed to find out what was in it. It was like 1200 pages long pdf, but it was widely spaced and not much on each page, so it went pretty fast. the thing that struck me about it was how much of it had very little to do with provision of health/medical care, and how much asserted that various commissions, boards, panels, etc. were to go off and figure it out, without a lot of guidance on what it actually was. A lot of it also related to other laws that needed to be changed, superseded, deleted, etc. to read differently in various provisions of those. So there was actually not much of anything in there that one could divine what was actually meant or intended. Most curious, but then I thought about it, and it became clearer. I questioned a local candidate for the state legislature, who was waxing enthusiastic about the PPACA, if he had actually read the law and understood it sufficiently to 1) be enthusiastic and 2) vote on things in the legislature regarding the law and whatever requirements it would impose on the state. His response was that no, he had not actually read it, and did not know anyone who had, at which point I said I did and he then said, Well, it is Obama's law, so I am all for it! This guy is a black democrat, which reflects most of our population in this district, so I sorta expected that, but was also disappointed he could not think for himself. He is a nice guy though, and seems to actually do stuff if you ask him, so I guess you can't get the whole package. --R On 10/4/13 4:22 PM, clay wrote: Something passed that nobody read. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. It all comes back to bite you in the butt down the road. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry It is one of the little home steam cleaning machines. I picked it up at Goodwill for ten bucks. Mostly used it to sterilize rental homes. Good on urine and encrusted gunk on bathroom floors. Got to do an adequate job on the underside of a car. Little yellow one pint model with a hose and attachments. I used the steam nozzle and patience. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Where did you get the steamer, Clay? My pressure washer is a PIA with all the water flying around, and it doesn't do a very good job anyway. Thanks, Gerry From: clay redgh...@comcast.net #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6718 - Release Date: 10/02/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6721 - Release Date: 10/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 15:46:49 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The president has changed the law that Congress passed (barely, but that is another story) by postponing the employer mandate by 1 year. Congress said, Do this and the president decided to do something else. Not sure what consequences there are to that unilateral action (which is not really allowed) but there you go. Yes, where are those on the left who are waxing poetic on how the law was passed and signed and declared Constitutional by the Supreme Court when Obama has violated the law by postponing the employer mandate and giving out exemptions to his buddies and supporters? Why are they not pushing for him to go to jail? Seems like the whole thing is just one giant mess. That is an extreme understatement. And that doesn't even address the lack of computer security and proper functioning. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:50:20 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: alternatively i can reclaim the bimby that i created Do you mean buymbparts.com? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
no, all of buymbparts. really, sexton created it and sent me to make it work. like this list, the much maligned dickarde is the originator. buymbparts was invented to be the parts department for mbz.org On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:50:20 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: alternatively i can reclaim the bimby that i created Do you mean buymbparts.com? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
do you get the feeling that you are just around to be a pawn in a lot of people's rackets? why is it 1200 pages long other than the keep lawyers and other similar parasites employed? how does a man support a law if he doesn't even know what it contains? etc On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I actually read a version of the law before the one that had to be passed to find out what was in it. It was like 1200 pages long pdf, but it was widely spaced and not much on each page, so it went pretty fast. the thing that struck me about it was how much of it had very little to do with provision of health/medical care, and how much asserted that various commissions, boards, panels, etc. were to go off and figure it out, without a lot of guidance on what it actually was. A lot of it also related to other laws that needed to be changed, superseded, deleted, etc. to read differently in various provisions of those. So there was actually not much of anything in there that one could divine what was actually meant or intended. Most curious, but then I thought about it, and it became clearer. I questioned a local candidate for the state legislature, who was waxing enthusiastic about the PPACA, if he had actually read the law and understood it sufficiently to 1) be enthusiastic and 2) vote on things in the legislature regarding the law and whatever requirements it would impose on the state. His response was that no, he had not actually read it, and did not know anyone who had, at which point I said I did and he then said, Well, it is Obama's law, so I am all for it! This guy is a black democrat, which reflects most of our population in this district, so I sorta expected that, but was also disappointed he could not think for himself. He is a nice guy though, and seems to actually do stuff if you ask him, so I guess you can't get the whole package. --R On 10/4/13 4:22 PM, clay wrote: Something passed that nobody read. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. It all comes back to bite you in the butt down the road. clay __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Those things are basically a tank you can fill with water and a propane burner to heat it -- a turkey fryer burner base, maybe using an old propane tank as the water tank (with a filler bung and a fitting for a heater hose 10 or 12ft long, and a nozzle on the end to spew the steam. Probably want to put a water heater-type pop off valve on there too, maybe at the base fitting of the hose. It could be the $2 steamer (well, maybe more like $20, but still...). I recall renting one of the wallpaper steamers once, the house got hot from the burner and the steam, maybe they have electric ones now. --R On 10/4/13 5:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
It should never have come to this. Both sides are employing similar tactics of take no prisoners. When the president rammed through the ACA over the objections of the republicans (at a time when he SHOULD have been devoting all of his energy to turning the economy around), his comment was Elections have consequences. This approach runs counter to most traditional legislative history, where some buy-in was usually sought from the loyal opposition. Treating the republicans this way created the 2010 election backlash in (the peoples!) house of representatives, while the house of Lords retained their democrat majority. Since the House has the constitutional mandate (because of the tradition in British government) to be the primary authority on budget matters, the 2010 election also had consequences. The shutdown also has a rich tradition, having occurred some 17 times since the Gerald Ford administration; so has become yet another tried-and-true method to encourage negotiation and compromise. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day The thing that has me confused (and I am saying this from a totally neutral point of view) is how the Republicans can try to change something that has been voted into law? After all, the ACA passed both houses and was signed into law by the President. The only way to change or rescind the law would be through the legislative process. With this in mind, there is no way to short circuit a piece of legislation based on our current process. I realize that there have been numerous attempts to vote on repealing the ACA, but they have all failed to-date. Short of there being success in this manner, I see the current approach as being fundamentally flawed and totally inappropriate. Confused Dan On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sometimes you just have to celebrate the checks and balances form of government. We can see it in action now. It allows no one part of the government to over power the other, and run rough shod over the governed. As long as they keep at each others necks, it is all good. When it implodes, then it can be built up clean and sparkly. Better fit and able to meet the real needs of the populace. Local liberal coverage is trying to place blame, but in reading the reporting of statement made by out states congress critters, they are far more entrenched in their positions than the right. Less willing to sacrifice their own pay to help their staffers, and have a giant sense of entitlement to suckle at the public teat, while those across the aisle are putting pay in escrow for their staff, or making a cut equivalent to the one taken by the rest of the federal employees. Compromise is not a game the left is willing to play. So, the show down continues. clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Those things are basically a tank you can fill with water and a propane burner to heat it Naw, he's got a McCullough. http://www.amazon.com/McCulloch-MC-1275-Heavy-Duty-Steam-Cleaner/dp/BDF0RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
If both parties of Congress did their job when they passed the budget they would not need to ask for an increase in the debit limit at a later date. Its all political games. Its like buying a house, moving in, and then months later getting a loan approved. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: do you get the feeling that you are just around to be a pawn in a lot of people's rackets? why is it 1200 pages long other than the keep lawyers and other similar parasites employed? how does a man support a law if he doesn't even know what it contains? etc On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I actually read a version of the law before the one that had to be passed to find out what was in it. It was like 1200 pages long pdf, but it was widely spaced and not much on each page, so it went pretty fast. the thing that struck me about it was how much of it had very little to do with provision of health/medical care, and how much asserted that various commissions, boards, panels, etc. were to go off and figure it out, without a lot of guidance on what it actually was. A lot of it also related to other laws that needed to be changed, superseded, deleted, etc. to read differently in various provisions of those. So there was actually not much of anything in there that one could divine what was actually meant or intended. Most curious, but then I thought about it, and it became clearer. I questioned a local candidate for the state legislature, who was waxing enthusiastic about the PPACA, if he had actually read the law and understood it sufficiently to 1) be enthusiastic and 2) vote on things in the legislature regarding the law and whatever requirements it would impose on the state. His response was that no, he had not actually read it, and did not know anyone who had, at which point I said I did and he then said, Well, it is Obama's law, so I am all for it! This guy is a black democrat, which reflects most of our population in this district, so I sorta expected that, but was also disappointed he could not think for himself. He is a nice guy though, and seems to actually do stuff if you ask him, so I guess you can't get the whole package. --R On 10/4/13 4:22 PM, clay wrote: Something passed that nobody read. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. It all comes back to bite you in the butt down the road. clay __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:43:47 -0700 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: It should never have come to this. Both sides are employing similar tactics of take no prisoners. No, actually they are not. The Republicans have passed three bills, the first to fund all of the government, the other two to fund separate important parts of the government. The Senate Dems are the ones who are being intransigent. And why? All so we the people, the ordinary Joes, do not get a year's delay in the implementation of Obamacare like businesses. And we get all our personal information turned over to the IRS and registrars and thence, because of lax computer security, to the world. When the president rammed through the ACA over the objections of the republicans (at a time when he SHOULD have been devoting all of his energy to turning the economy around), his comment was Elections have consequences Since the House has the constitutional mandate (because of the tradition in British government) to be the primary authority on budget matters, the 2010 election also had consequences. Yes, Obama wasn't the only one who was elected. In fact the House of Representatives is elected twice as often as the presidency. The shutdown also has a rich tradition, having occurred some 17 times since the Gerald Ford administration; so has become yet another tried-and-true method to encourage negotiation and compromise. Yes, Tip O'Neill had 5 shutdowns while he was speaker. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:04:40 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: If both parties of Congress did their job when they passed the budget they would not need to ask for an increase in the debit limit at a later date. Its all political games. Its like buying a house, moving in, and then months later getting a loan approved. That's an apt illustration. What happens when those that fund the loan (not those who say you can borrow that much) decide they don't want to do it? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
How 'bout a pressure cooker? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day Those things are basically a tank you can fill with water and a propane burner to heat it -- a turkey fryer burner base, maybe using an old propane tank as the water tank (with a filler bung and a fitting for a heater hose 10 or 12ft long, and a nozzle on the end to spew the steam. Probably want to put a water heater-type pop off valve on there too, maybe at the base fitting of the hose. It could be the $2 steamer (well, maybe more like $20, but still...). I recall renting one of the wallpaper steamers once, the house got hot from the burner and the steam, maybe they have electric ones now. --R On 10/4/13 5:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Where's the blade? Wilt - Original Message - From: m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day Those things are basically a tank you can fill with water and a propane burner to heat it Naw, he's got a McCullough. http://www.amazon.com/McCulloch-MC-1275-Heavy-Duty-Steam-Cleaner/dp/BDF0RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
Craig wrote: And we get all our personal information turned over to the IRS and registrars and thence, because of lax computer security, to the world. Someone was telling this week that the refusal to purchase coverage IRS fine will be on 2013 1040. Can someone corroborate this? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
My betting is on urban myth. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: And we get all our personal information turned over to the IRS and registrars and thence, because of lax computer security, to the world. Someone was telling this week that the refusal to purchase coverage IRS fine will be on 2013 1040. Can someone corroborate this? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Questions-and-Answers-on-the-Individual-Shared-Responsibility-Provision On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My betting is on urban myth. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: And we get all our personal information turned over to the IRS and registrars and thence, because of lax computer security, to the world. Someone was telling this week that the refusal to purchase coverage IRS fine will be on 2013 1040. Can someone corroborate this? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Have a look at the following link, which is a picture of the ACA bill, as passed, plus all the regulations which are now a part of this bill by authority of the law, from the various agencies now having authority to write regulations [weight of law, no direct representation of Citizens in writing regulation] The stack now towers some 7 feet high. You are responsible to know every word and it's meaning [Ignorance of the law is no defense, remember]. The page count now comes to over 20,000 pages and still rising. For those of you that have not grasp yet what has to happen for this law to go into effect, Congress has to FUND THE LAW to implement it.. no tickee, no laundree GI. Without funding,,, it doesn't function. It's on the books, yes.. but so is that law that says you can't spit on sidewalks... http://twitchy.com/2013/03/12/whoa-sen-mcconnell-tweets-shocking-photo-of-the-2-pages-of-obamacare-regulations/ Only 20,000 pages what could possibly go wrong?? On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sometimes you just have to celebrate the checks and balances form of government. We can see it in action now. It allows no one part of the government to over power the other, and run rough shod over the governed. As long as they keep at each others necks, it is all good. When it implodes, then it can be built up clean and sparkly. Better fit and able to meet the real needs of the populace. Local liberal coverage is trying to place blame, but in reading the reporting of statement made by out states congress critters, they are far more entrenched in their positions than the right. Less willing to sacrifice their own pay to help their staffers, and have a giant sense of entitlement to suckle at the public teat, while those across the aisle are putting pay in escrow for their staff, or making a cut equivalent to the one taken by the rest of the federal employees. Compromise is not a game the left is willing to play. So, the show down continues. clay On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: So, are you folks like the government? Have you been shut down? Randy in Canada where we don't seem able to figure out how to shut down the government ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
And: http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/penalty.asp On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: http://www.irs.gov/uac/Questions-and-Answers-on-the-Individual-Shared-Responsibility-Provision On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My betting is on urban myth. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: And we get all our personal information turned over to the IRS and registrars and thence, because of lax computer security, to the world. Someone was telling this week that the refusal to purchase coverage IRS fine will be on 2013 1040. Can someone corroborate this? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
Be careful what you say! The NSA is listening!:-) Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day How 'bout a pressure cooker? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day Those things are basically a tank you can fill with water and a propane burner to heat it -- a turkey fryer burner base, maybe using an old propane tank as the water tank (with a filler bung and a fitting for a heater hose 10 or 12ft long, and a nozzle on the end to spew the steam. Probably want to put a water heater-type pop off valve on there too, maybe at the base fitting of the hose. It could be the $2 steamer (well, maybe more like $20, but still...). I recall renting one of the wallpaper steamers once, the house got hot from the burner and the steam, maybe they have electric ones now. --R On 10/4/13 5:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day
My thoughts, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day Be careful what you say! The NSA is listening!:-) Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day How 'bout a pressure cooker? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adventure of the day Those things are basically a tank you can fill with water and a propane burner to heat it -- a turkey fryer burner base, maybe using an old propane tank as the water tank (with a filler bung and a fitting for a heater hose 10 or 12ft long, and a nozzle on the end to spew the steam. Probably want to put a water heater-type pop off valve on there too, maybe at the base fitting of the hose. It could be the $2 steamer (well, maybe more like $20, but still...). I recall renting one of the wallpaper steamers once, the house got hot from the burner and the steam, maybe they have electric ones now. --R On 10/4/13 5:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Thanks. Didn't know they were made that small. I'll check Ebay and the 'net. Gerry A friend of mine has one of the bigger ones, uses it to sanitize foreclosed houses and strip wallpaper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker?
If rusty was getting out would it not have been best to hand over the bimby to jabba? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: alternatively i can reclaim the bimby that i created On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Keep it in your pants, Gary. The truth will come out, but will not put you in good light if it comes from you. We all know what is going on and will not put Trent in a positive light. You divorced yourself from Bimby. Move on by letting the feces hit the fan all by itself. If you really want to get splattered, then pipe up. It will fly everywhere and the guy with his mouth open will be one of the first hit. clay On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: that's why i haven't as so many here seem intent on protecting trent for reasons i cannot fathom. why not, wilton? he is a crook using the trade name that i created to defraud people and people insist that i must just sit idly by and let him do it. why? On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Please don't, Gary. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can we chip in for a spel chekker? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
Mountain Man wrote: Craig wrote: And we get all our personal information turned over to the IRS and registrars and thence, because of lax computer security, to the world. Someone was telling this week that the refusal to purchase coverage IRS fine will be on 2013 1040. Can someone corroborate this? Naw, the 2014 1040 due in April 2015. They won't know to fine, I mean tax, you for lack of 2014 coverage until you've gone without Democrat-approved insurance for at least three months of 2014. It seems the IRS is prohibited from pursuing you for the money if you don't pay the tax, but they can deduct it (plus interest) from any money they might owe you some day. Since I intend to exercise my First Amendment right to protest the tax on my 2014 return, and I'm licensed as an e-File return originator, either they'll take action against me or everybody's safe. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
Dan Penoff wrote: http://www.irs.gov/uac/Questions-and-Answers-on-the-Individual-Shared-Responsibility-Provision For some reason, the Hardship Exemptions aren't mentioned there. Some of the hardships are voluntary, like getting a utility shutoff notice. (anybody can get a shutoff notice, just go 2-3 months without paying) Some of them are downright ROTFL hilarious, like having a medical bill you couldn't afford to pay because you didn't have insurance is a hardship excuse for not having insurance. Since the whole excuse for having the law is that some people can't pay their medical bills without insurance, excluding them from the mandate makes a total sham of the mandate. https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/ Mao should just read this discussion: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1302585/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] leaky Adventure of the day
The 104 has been known to leak oil, usually out of the top timing chain cover seal. Another more expensive culprit is the head gasket, which leaks at the back left hand corner. Hendrik who did a head gasket RR on a 103 recently On 05/10/13 04:28, clay wrote: yes. inline 6. On Oct 4, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: This is a M104 engine? Hendrik with an oily 103 On 04/10/13 16:51, clay wrote: #1 boy finally decided that he would show some interest in his car. We had been working on making the car functional enough to pass state inspection so it could be registered. Got that out of the way and he slacked off. With the W140 on the road, he wants to put some shine to it. Anyway, he drags me out to see what is making the grease spots on the street where he parks. From the top it looks like nothing, but I get him to put it on ramps and take off the covers. It is a pit under there and the belly pans are loaded with asphalt and crud. Gave the pans a good scrubbing and they are ten pound lighter. We scraped the crap off the underside of the engine. Soaked it with citrus degreaser. No matter how much we dosed it, the stuff kept flowing off black and thick. Wire brush to the cruddy parts with thick coating and found aged cosmoline or some yellowed coating. Brake cleaner cut the mounds of gunk on top of the sub frames. Boy got it off ramps and drove it in the rain. When he got back there was lots of oily drips all over the place. Looks like there is a good leak going on. Door locks and other vac stuff is not working. I got tired of dealing with the kid whining about oil and gunk getting in his hair, so I told him to work on the vac lines. I have no idea if the pump actually works, but he got happy playing with my vac tester and making the door locks work. We will have to figure out the rest of that mystery when he has another day off. I spent the afternoon with the steam machine blasting away at the built up snot on the oil pan and the rest of the stuff under there. It was flowing and plopping all over, and the crust was disappearing to the point that what was once black was beginning to look about 150k miles newer. I finally got it clean enough that any new black drips will be very obvious and I will be able to see any real leaks. And the underside is all shiny and pretty. Even found that the suspension may have been replaced within the last 12k miles. All the bolts, once cleaned, were looking like new. I can see that this 300SE could be a sweet ride for show and shine. Now I am going to have to spend a number of hours with the steamer getting Frosch ready clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:02:31 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mountain Man wrote: Craig wrote: And we get all our personal information turned over to the IRS and registrars and thence, because of lax computer security, to the world. Someone was telling this week that the refusal to purchase coverage IRS fine will be on 2013 1040. Can someone corroborate this? Naw, the 2014 1040 due in April 2015. They won't know to fine, I mean tax, you for lack of 2014 coverage until you've gone without Democrat-approved insurance for at least three months of 2014. It seems the IRS is prohibited from pursuing you for the money if you don't pay the tax, but they can deduct it (plus interest) from any money they might owe you some day. Since I intend to exercise my First Amendment right to protest the tax on my 2014 return, and I'm licensed as an e-File return originator, either they'll take action against me or everybody's safe. www.refuse2enroll.com Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:43:51 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: And: http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/penalty.asp From the bottom of that page, In short, failure to pay the PPACA non-compliance penalty might result in the IRS' sending you warning letters and deducting the penalty amount from your future tax refunds (if you have any), but not throwing you in jail, forcibly taking money from your bank account, or seizing your house or other property. We have also found no provision of the PPACA or IRS code that would allow the federal government to suspend an individual's driver's license as a penalty for non-compliance with the individual mandate provision of the PPACA. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Dan wrote: ...I see the current approach as being fundamentally flawed and totally inappropriate. I probably agree with your sentiment but sounds more progressive than I suspect out of you. Actually, I probably sound more progressive than I like also. On gov't - I get all libertarian. The functions of gov't can be done by we the people. We the people have been supplanted. We can take that back via sacrifice. Ask about the teacher that taught my kids. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
drfatty wrote: do you get the feeling that you are just around to be a pawn in a lot of people's rackets? Such as the news racket? Blather on and on. Then jump to debt. ...eh... The gov't runs on and on. Is there anyone here at okiebenz that is affected by ACA? or shutdown? I suspect nobody is affected by either ACA or shutdown and we are pawns in the racket of news reporting. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Grant wrote: Have a look at the following link, which is a picture of the ACA bill... 30 years ago I helped write project status reports and such. My boss would say about the reports... If you can't make it good, make it thick. Maybe he is in DC? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
...we are pawns in the racket of news reporting. Only if we're too lazy to find alternate information sources. I've been in the boots on the ground and later seen the event reported by journalists; so I know to take lamestream media reports with a pound or 2 of salt. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 5:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day drfatty wrote: do you get the feeling that you are just around to be a pawn in a lot of people's rackets? Such as the news racket? Blather on and on. Then jump to debt. ...eh... The gov't runs on and on. Is there anyone here at okiebenz that is affected by ACA? or shutdown? I suspect nobody is affected by either ACA or shutdown and mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this
http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/4109030244.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS slow day, now Shutdown
Mitch wrote: Mao should just read this discussion: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1302585/ That's a huge thread but sounds like a keeper. I guess they will fine me, since I have zero ability to pay - no income. I'm not gonna let them know that by signing up for medicaid. At best, I want to let them know that I like JFK - I am asking what I can do for my country, instead of asking what my country can do for me. The only thing I want to ask from my country is - leave me alone, thank you. Count me as a refuse to enroll bandit/outlaw/radical. Another question - are there any okiebenz readers that are affected by ACA? I suspect all the blather is by folks that already have private coverage and the affects are minimal or covered by employers. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Greg wrote: so I know to take lamestream media reports with a pound or 2 of salt. Yabbut... There ain't nuthin' but lamestream anymore. All the sources out there are re-mouthing other talking heads. Also, I suspect even the local blather is all 6-figure entertainers that have advertiser money on the mind disease - advertisers are the cash cow. Are there any talking heads that make middle class incomes? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
On Oct 4, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: What happens when those that fund the loan (not those who say you can borrow that much) decide they don't want to do it? Interest rates go up. Credit ratings drop. The ability to even service the interest on the debt disappears. Economic calamity ensues, followed by economic collapse. Then a new (digital) currency is announced and implemented. You asked. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Mountain Man wrote: Is there anyone here at okiebenz that is affected by ACA? Everybody is affected by ACA, unless they already have Medicaid, or don't have insurance of any sort and plan to entirely ignore the new law. Here's the effect on me: Right now, the best deal I can find is $187/mo for $2000 deductible full coverage with $2000 cap on out of pocket expenses. Same plan is $132 with $5k deductible. This sort of insurance is everything I could ever want, except maybe I could want more in-network doctors. An ACA compliant policy from the same insurance company would cost $443/month with a $6000 deductible. Let's go over that again: Today, $5k deductible costs $132/month, in January, $6k deductible costs $443.43/month, or an increase of 20% in out of pocket liability for an increase of 236% in premium. I don't care if they offer me a $4k tax credit, I'm not buying health insurance at 2014 prices. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Greg Fiorentino wrote: ...we are pawns in the racket of news reporting. Only if we're too lazy to find alternate information sources. I've been in the boots on the ground and later seen the event reported by journalists; so I know to take lamestream media reports with a pound or 2 of salt. Once I read an account of a situation that I had first hand knowledge of and there were some major factual inconsistencies between what I knew and what was published. Another time, I read a personal interest story which included an interview of somebody I knew. Then I saw a letter to the editor that she wrote, complaining that what she was quoted as saying was very different from what she actually said. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/4109030244.html I take it they don't smog test 1997 vehicles in MO? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] connecting athens and johns island
saw this http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/10/01/228193565/a-grass-roots-rally-to-protect-south-carolinas-massive-angel-oak mercedes content, i have visited the tree in my 82 300td thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
Congress said, Do this and the president decided to do something else. Not sure what consequences there are to that unilateral action (which is not really allowed) but there you go. Only one, that I know of: Impeachment, followed by replacement by the next guy in line, who's presumably more willing to execute the law as passed. Wash, rinse, repeat. That _is_ the feedback mechanism. The check, or balance. Whatever you want to call it. Congress needs no more justification than we want to to eject a president. But a lot of 'em have to want it bad, enough to risk their own later reprisals at the polls. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
My experience exactly! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 7:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day Greg Fiorentino wrote: ...we are pawns in the racket of news reporting. Only if we're too lazy to find alternate information sources. I've been in the boots on the ground and later seen the event reported by journalists; so I know to take lamestream media reports with a pound or 2 of salt. Once I read an account of a situation that I had first hand knowledge of and there were some major factual inconsistencies between what I knew and what was published. Another time, I read a personal interest story which included an interview of somebody I knew. Then I saw a letter to the editor that she wrote, complaining that what she was quoted as saying was very different from what she actually said. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this
Uh no Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/4109030244.html I take it they don't smog test 1997 vehicles in MO? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
All the sources out there are re-mouthing other talking heads. There are a few bloggers out there that seem reliable. But I always try to look at all sides in order to separate the grain from the chaff. After having worked for 32 years within the gummint I became pretty good at identifying the smell of horseshit. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day Greg wrote: so I know to take lamestream media reports with a pound or 2 of salt. Yabbut... There ain't nuthin' but lamestream anymore. All the sources out there are re-mouthing other talking heads. Also, I suspect even the local blather is all 6-figure entertainers that have advertiser money on the mind disease - advertisers are the cash cow. Are there any talking heads that make middle class incomes? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
No chance that this senate will impeach this president! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day Congress said, Do this and the president decided to do something else. Not sure what consequences there are to that unilateral action (which is not really allowed) but there you go. Only one, that I know of: Impeachment, followed by replacement by the next guy in line, who's presumably more willing to execute the law as passed. Wash, rinse, repeat. That _is_ the feedback mechanism. The check, or balance. Whatever you want to call it. Congress needs no more justification than we want to to eject a president. But a lot of 'em have to want it bad, enough to risk their own later reprisals at the polls. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
No chance that this senate will impeach this president! Once they figure out they don't actually have to do what they're told, I predict a rather steep decline. 'Course, were _I_ Obama being called on the carpet on account of not implementing ACA (?) correctly, I'd just fix 'em with a gaze and say: Fine! Then _you_ explain it to me. I've tried reading it, but I got lost and then I fell asleep. I'm here, I'll even take notes. And next time give me something that is not pure crap to begin with. Sir. That, _also_, is never going to happen. (Esp. since O was behind originating it in the first place.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
'Zackly what's so frustrating about what I have experienced personally, especially in B-52's, being reported erroneously and in a misleading and sensational manner by too many journalists or wannabe journalists who embellish the facts with what they imagine or may have seen in some fictitious movie such as Dr. Strangelove, Fail Safe and others. I've seen this happen not only with subjects relating to B-52's and the Air Force but other matters, as well, of which I have personal knowledge. Therefore, I've learned to take a lot of the stuff I read, see and hear in the news with a bag of salt, as Greg already said, and as I've been telling my friends at lunch for years. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day Greg Fiorentino wrote: ...we are pawns in the racket of news reporting. Only if we're too lazy to find alternate information sources. I've been in the boots on the ground and later seen the event reported by journalists; so I know to take lamestream media reports with a pound or 2 of salt. Once I read an account of a situation that I had first hand knowledge of and there were some major factual inconsistencies between what I knew and what was published. Another time, I read a personal interest story which included an interview of somebody I knew. Then I saw a letter to the editor that she wrote, complaining that what she was quoted as saying was very different from what she actually said. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
And I'm a pretty good spotter of bulls**t. ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day All the sources out there are re-mouthing other talking heads. There are a few bloggers out there that seem reliable. But I always try to look at all sides in order to separate the grain from the chaff. After having worked for 32 years within the gummint I became pretty good at identifying the smell of horseshit. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow day Greg wrote: so I know to take lamestream media reports with a pound or 2 of salt. Yabbut... There ain't nuthin' but lamestream anymore. All the sources out there are re-mouthing other talking heads. Also, I suspect even the local blather is all 6-figure entertainers that have advertiser money on the mind disease - advertisers are the cash cow. Are there any talking heads that make middle class incomes? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
I became pretty good at identifying the smell of horseshit. It is the taste that I'm particularly averse to. -- JIm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
I became pretty good at identifying the smell of horseshit. It is the taste that I'm particularly averse to. Wish I could say that about my niece's little dog. One night I let her out one last time before going to bed, and when I let her back in the room filled with the stench of horse feces. We gave her a bath, but the smell seemed undiminished. The stench which was filling my house was coming from the mouth of a 10lb Rat Terrier. Amazingly enough, holding her down and attacking her with a tooth brush and mint flavored toothpaste totally solved the problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 23:58:26 -0400 (EDT) m...@voyager.net wrote: The stench which was filling my house was coming from the mouth of a 10lb Rat Terrier. Amazingly enough, holding her down and attacking her with a tooth brush and mint flavored toothpaste totally solved the problem. Did it also solve the proclivity to repeat the ingestion? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow day
reported erroneously and in a misleading and sensational manner by too many journalists or wannabe journalists who embellish the facts So tell me, Mr. Reporter Sir, is it just that you're stupid, or incompetent? Or merely a lying propagandist and not actually a reporter at all? Feel free to quote me on this, if you like. If you _can_. Boy, am I in a squirrely mood today or what?! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Just ain't got time!
Ugh...Well, someone had time to black out the grill, time to install aftermarket wheels, time to install a spoiler, time to install clear marker lights time to install an aftermarket warm air intake (not sure how they figure air drawn from under the hood is cooler). But...to have new ball joints installed, fix the temp gauge or the rear windowforgetta'bout it...just ain't got time!!! eBay link: 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class (1995 Mercedes E300D 163k) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-Gold-1995-mercedes-e-300-d-163-k-/251351651811 -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
