[MBZ] '83 300D Euro 4spd on CL SF

[Alex Chamberlain]

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/4140972067.html

Looks like it could be a nice one for a fair price.  Who on the list is in
NorCal besides Ernie?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Rich Thomas]

It was the local (Texas) term used by the illegals for INS or ICE or whatever 
they were.  Shout it out and watch them scatter.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Craig  wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:20:30 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> There is no direct translation, but you may substitute any crude and
> nasty adjective.  Most non-literal translations I've heard would have
> to appear on "banned".

And what does "La Migra" mean? I tried looking that up on Google's
translation site and got no answer.

Craig

> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:15 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled
> 
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:52:08 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
>  wrote:
> 
>> << Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La 
>> Migra.>>
>> 
>> You mean La PINCHI Migra.
> 
> And in English that is ... ?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

[OK Don]

No real connection to your story (that I know of), but Myrick is not a
common name in these parts, yet I live on Myrick Airport, here in OK (33OK).

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, WILTON  wrote:
"What's her name?" "Anne Myrick," he answered. I exclaimed, "She's the
pretty, sweet little 3 or 4-year-old daughter of the Stedman's Grocery
Store manager in Nashville "

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- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td problems

[OK Don]

Yup - check the tank vent line.

Another thought, what happens if the return fuel line from the injectors to
the tank is clogged? I've never heard of it happening, but ???


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> Still sounds like a fuel starvation problem, unless you have gotten the IP
> gummed up and it's refusing to deliver fuel.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] rare on mercedes topic more 300td 1982 problems

[OK Don]

Two things come to mind, but neither might be related - you get what you
pay for!

1 - I bought a '76 300D once for the rust free NV body because the PO
thought the engine needed to be rebuilt because it was hard to start. I
found my 10,000 mile factory crate engine hard to start once transplanted
from the rusted out body to this one. I found a spot where the steel line
from the tank turns upward in the engine compartment that had rubbed
against the frame and worn a small hole. Cut the line there, spliced it
with a short piece of fuel hose, and never had any trouble starting the car
again (until the start died that is). The downside to this explanation is
that the car ran great once it was started, it just lost the prime and took
forever to get enough fuel to the IP to start, so this is probably not your
problem, though I'd look at every inch of the fuel delivery (and return)
path.

2 - is the vent for the fuel tank clear? No air in, no fuel out. They can
become clogged and cause all kinds of hard to diagnose trouble.


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Re: [MBZ] rare on mercedes topic more 300td 1982 problems

[clay]

OW.

Only event that replicates that symptom in my case was a leaky primer pump.  
Old one bit the dust and I replaced it with a real bosch pump.  The old one had 
been sucking air and not letting me get enough fuel through the IP.  When 
stopped, the prime would be lost, and I could crank it all day to no effect.  

clay

On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

> Folks
> 
> I've been having problems getting my 1982 300td to run correctly.  And yes 
> i'm running it on WVO.
> 
> Let's see if i can give some background and tell you all the things that i 
> have done.
> 
> About 3 weeks ago i drove it 60 miles to atlanta and back and basically 
> limped home at about 40 mph.
> 
> SO, here's what i did. I drained the tank and checked that the tank screen 
> was clear. I blew out the tank to prefilter line. I installed a clean 
> prefilter and also changed the main spin on fuel filter. No improvement.
> 
> Then i pulled all the injectors and pop tested them. Two had a very bad spray 
> pattern, so i replaced them with tested working injectors. At this point the 
> car ran pretty well, but was really hard to start. (yes, the valves have been 
> adjusted in the past 6000 miles)
> 
> It felt like fuel starvation and i started thinking that i have an air leak 
> somewhere.
> 
> At some point in all this i got a couple of ebay, allegedly Bosh primer 
> pumps, white box uro, i guess with the Bosch part number. I installed one of 
> them and didn't like the way it felt, but left it on.
> 
> Then at some point, i went to the flaps looking for a sealing washer for the 
> main fuel filter  advance and autozone both had about 3 copper washers, 
> nothing!!
> 
> I replaced the o ring in the main filter bolt, but didn't replace the 
> aluminum washer. Mine is the 1 O ring 1 washer style bolt.
> 
> Killed my battery when it wouldn't start and had them charge it for a few 
> hours. Then i returned and did a lot of priming and got it going.
> 
> Now i'm trying to remember what i did next. I guess i drove it a little and 
> it felt pretty good.
> 
> At some point in all of this i drilled the T connectors in the main vacuum 
> hose from pump to booster. After i did that, the key shutoff started working 
> again. I had been stopping the engine using the lever under the hood.
> 
> I am now starting to think that may have over drilled because the 
> transmission shifts started to seem like they were a bit too soft. I may have 
> messed up some restriction orifice in the T.
> 
> This story goes on and on over about a month. I may have some of this out of 
> chronology but i'm trying.
> 
> On tuesday afternoon, i drove from Athens, GA to near Pensacola, FL, a 
> distance of about 450 miles each way. I was dragging a 1000 lb letterpress on 
> the trailer on the to Pensacola.  When i started that trip, the rig would 
> only make about 40 mph, but after a few miles, it picked up and i ran about 
> 65 most of the way down i-85 and 65.
> 
> I delivered the press and turned around to come back to athens. I only shut 
> the engine down a few times and it always started ok, but sometimes it does a 
> strange thing. With a hot engine, i'll try to start it. I'll turn the engine 
> over WAY too many times it it will not start. THEN i'll try again and it will 
> start instantly. It does the same pattern every time.
> 
> Now, back to my return trip tuesday night/ wednesday. I went about 200 miles 
> till i was on the atlanta side of montgomery and the car would slow to about 
> 40 mph  then after a while it would pick up and do better, but never more 
> than about 60.
> 
> I changed the slightly dirty pre filter. I noticed that the new uro trash 
> primer pump seemed to be leaking, so i put the old bosch one back on and it 
> seemed to pump better and didn't leak.
> 
> So i limped home and went to sleep.
> 
> On Thursday, i messed with the car some more at the shop. I changed a bunch 
> of crush washers on banjo fittings on the IP and on the filter body. I 
> changed the fuel filter bolt with another one i had of the same type. I had 
> trouble getting it primed again and ran the battery down. After charging it a 
> while, i got it started and  drove home. About midnite last night i started 
> the car and went to the bank. It didn't run well. Today, i went to start 
> . no joy, i ran out of battery. I went to start my isuzu npr to use it 
> and i ran out of battery there, too.
> 
> So, i charged the battery for 40 minutes  (6 amp charger) and got started and 
> delivered a 300 lb type case up into the foothills of the mountains in 
> Dahlonega, Ga a distance of about 60 miles. I didn't shut down and returned 
> to the office. The car went 60 to 65 the entire way. I returned to the 
> office. I un hitched my trailer and considered swapping the main vacuum hose 
> assembly with one on another car, but only thought about it.
> 
> I started the warm engine with the usual over cranking to no result and then 
> start the seco

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td problems

[Peter Frederick]

Still sounds like a fuel starvation problem, unless you have gotten  
the IP gummed up and it's refusing to deliver fuel.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[clay]

It is not a female, but slang for the ICE people.  Immigration and 
Naturalization Service.  


On Nov 8, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

> The feminine for "migrant".
> 
> 
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[MBZ] 1982 300td problems

[Rick Hawkins Java]

peter said:

Replace all the fuel lines between the tank and the lift pump -- very  
likely you have bad hoses and a serious air leak somewhere.


Peter

Did you mean the metal line or the flex line between tank and metal  
line and the metal line to prefilter to lift pump hoses


i DID replace those hoses within the last couple of weeks  (the ones  
up front)


only inspected the tank to line hose and removed and reconnected it  
after checking for fuel flow at the tank nipple



thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] rare on mercedes topic more 300td 1982 problems

[Jim Cathey]

I would also cap off all the vacuum shutoff lines and see if that
made any difference.  Not highly likely, but should be ruled out.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I wonder what a realistic price is. I think he is at least double probably more.

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> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Crackhead nice.
> 
> I'm not impressed by his local MB dealership based on the background of the 
> pictures.
> 
> It is definitely a beautiful car, but if I had one like that I would be 
> afraid to drive it.  What fun is a garage queen?
> 
> I'll bet he could get that kind of money on eBay.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> http://lincoln.craigslist.org/cto/4180225189.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] rare on mercedes topic more 300td 1982 problems

[Peter Frederick]

Rubber lines first, but check the hard lines for corrosion and leaks.   
Not a bad idea to check to make sure one isn't smashed flat somewhere  
too.


Don't neglect the short one near the tank with two different sized ends.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] rare on mercedes topic more 300td 1982 problems

[Craig]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 20:20:06 -0600 Peter Frederick 
wrote:

> Replace all the fuel lines between the tank and the lift pump -- very  
> likely you have bad hoses and a serious air leak somewhere.

You mean the rubber hoses that join the hard lines, or the hard lines,
too?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is nice and red

[Hendrik and Fay]

Bit out of your usual price range for an old Merc?
I don't like all the US crap on it, I think I said it before but it 
makes them look like dodge em cars, guess we are just used to the Euro look.


Hendrik
with the Euro look, as the maker intended

On 09/11/13 12:38, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is nice

[Dan Penoff]

Crackhead nice.

I'm not impressed by his local MB dealership based on the background of the 
pictures.

It is definitely a beautiful car, but if I had one like that I would be afraid 
to drive it.  What fun is a garage queen?

I'll bet he could get that kind of money on eBay.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] rare on mercedes topic more 300td 1982 problems

[Peter Frederick]

Replace all the fuel lines between the tank and the lift pump -- very  
likely you have bad hoses and a serious air leak somewhere.


Peter
On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:


Folks

I've been having problems getting my 1982 300td to run correctly.   
And yes i'm running it on WVO.


Let's see if i can give some background and tell you all the things  
that i have done.


About 3 weeks ago i drove it 60 miles to atlanta and back and  
basically limped home at about 40 mph.


SO, here's what i did. I drained the tank and checked that the tank  
screen was clear. I blew out the tank to prefilter line. I  
installed a clean prefilter and also changed the main spin on fuel  
filter. No improvement.


Then i pulled all the injectors and pop tested them. Two had a very  
bad spray pattern, so i replaced them with tested working  
injectors. At this point the car ran pretty well, but was really  
hard to start. (yes, the valves have been adjusted in the past 6000  
miles)


It felt like fuel starvation and i started thinking that i have an  
air leak somewhere.


At some point in all this i got a couple of ebay, allegedly Bosh  
primer pumps, white box uro, i guess with the Bosch part number. I  
installed one of them and didn't like the way it felt, but left it on.


Then at some point, i went to the flaps looking for a sealing  
washer for the main fuel filter  advance and autozone both had  
about 3 copper washers, nothing!!


I replaced the o ring in the main filter bolt, but didn't replace  
the aluminum washer. Mine is the 1 O ring 1 washer style bolt.


Killed my battery when it wouldn't start and had them charge it for  
a few hours. Then i returned and did a lot of priming and got it  
going.


Now i'm trying to remember what i did next. I guess i drove it a  
little and it felt pretty good.


At some point in all of this i drilled the T connectors in the main  
vacuum hose from pump to booster. After i did that, the key shutoff  
started working again. I had been stopping the engine using the  
lever under the hood.


I am now starting to think that may have over drilled because the  
transmission shifts started to seem like they were a bit too soft.  
I may have messed up some restriction orifice in the T.


This story goes on and on over about a month. I may have some of  
this out of chronology but i'm trying.


On tuesday afternoon, i drove from Athens, GA to near Pensacola,  
FL, a distance of about 450 miles each way. I was dragging a 1000  
lb letterpress on the trailer on the to Pensacola.  When i started  
that trip, the rig would only make about 40 mph, but after a few  
miles, it picked up and i ran about 65 most of the way down i-85  
and 65.


I delivered the press and turned around to come back to athens. I  
only shut the engine down a few times and it always started ok, but  
sometimes it does a strange thing. With a hot engine, i'll try to  
start it. I'll turn the engine over WAY too many times it it will  
not start. THEN i'll try again and it will start instantly. It does  
the same pattern every time.


Now, back to my return trip tuesday night/ wednesday. I went about  
200 miles till i was on the atlanta side of montgomery and the car  
would slow to about 40 mph  then after a while it would pick up  
and do better, but never more than about 60.


I changed the slightly dirty pre filter. I noticed that the new uro  
trash primer pump seemed to be leaking, so i put the old bosch one  
back on and it seemed to pump better and didn't leak.


So i limped home and went to sleep.

On Thursday, i messed with the car some more at the shop. I changed  
a bunch of crush washers on banjo fittings on the IP and on the  
filter body. I changed the fuel filter bolt with another one i had  
of the same type. I had trouble getting it primed again and ran the  
battery down. After charging it a while, i got it started and   
drove home. About midnite last night i started the car and went to  
the bank. It didn't run well. Today, i went to start . no joy,  
i ran out of battery. I went to start my isuzu npr to use it and i  
ran out of battery there, too.


So, i charged the battery for 40 minutes  (6 amp charger) and got  
started and delivered a 300 lb type case up into the foothills of  
the mountains in Dahlonega, Ga a distance of about 60 miles. I  
didn't shut down and returned to the office. The car went 60 to 65  
the entire way. I returned to the office. I un hitched my trailer  
and considered swapping the main vacuum hose assembly with one on  
another car, but only thought about it.


I started the warm engine with the usual over cranking to no result  
and then start the second try. I put it into gear and pressed the  
throttle and had no increase in RPM on the tach or increased engine  
sound. The engine has a slight bit of roughness at idle. With the  
transmission in park or neutral, i could rev the engine, but in  
gear i couldn't get any RPM. I final

[MBZ] Wow this is nice

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Craig]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 17:19:46 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> La Migra is the Mexican's term for a US Immigration Officer or Border
> Patrol agent or for a group of such agents collectively.  In common
> parlance the noun "Migra" is often modified by the adjective "pinchi"
> or "pinche" indicating a certain level of disrespect.


Oh! So the original statement,

> Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La Migra.


really should have been translated,

> Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were Border
> Patrol.




> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled
> 
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:20:30 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
>  wrote:
> 
> > There is no direct translation, but you may substitute any crude and 
> > nasty adjective.  Most non-literal translations I've heard would have 
> > to appear on "banned".
> 
> And what does "La Migra" mean? I tried looking that up on Google's
> translation site and got no answer.
> 
> Craig
> 
> > Greg
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Craig
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:15 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled
> > 
> > On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:52:08 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > << Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were
> > > La Migra.>>
> > > 
> > > You mean La PINCHI Migra.
> > 
> > And in English that is ... ?
> > 
> > 
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[MBZ] rare on mercedes topic more 300td 1982 problems

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Folks

I've been having problems getting my 1982 300td to run correctly.  And  
yes i'm running it on WVO.


Let's see if i can give some background and tell you all the things  
that i have done.


About 3 weeks ago i drove it 60 miles to atlanta and back and  
basically limped home at about 40 mph.


SO, here's what i did. I drained the tank and checked that the tank  
screen was clear. I blew out the tank to prefilter line. I installed a  
clean prefilter and also changed the main spin on fuel filter. No  
improvement.


Then i pulled all the injectors and pop tested them. Two had a very  
bad spray pattern, so i replaced them with tested working injectors.  
At this point the car ran pretty well, but was really hard to start.  
(yes, the valves have been adjusted in the past 6000 miles)


It felt like fuel starvation and i started thinking that i have an air  
leak somewhere.


At some point in all this i got a couple of ebay, allegedly Bosh  
primer pumps, white box uro, i guess with the Bosch part number. I  
installed one of them and didn't like the way it felt, but left it on.


Then at some point, i went to the flaps looking for a sealing washer  
for the main fuel filter  advance and autozone both had about 3  
copper washers, nothing!!


I replaced the o ring in the main filter bolt, but didn't replace the  
aluminum washer. Mine is the 1 O ring 1 washer style bolt.


Killed my battery when it wouldn't start and had them charge it for a  
few hours. Then i returned and did a lot of priming and got it going.


Now i'm trying to remember what i did next. I guess i drove it a  
little and it felt pretty good.


At some point in all of this i drilled the T connectors in the main  
vacuum hose from pump to booster. After i did that, the key shutoff  
started working again. I had been stopping the engine using the lever  
under the hood.


I am now starting to think that may have over drilled because the  
transmission shifts started to seem like they were a bit too soft. I  
may have messed up some restriction orifice in the T.


This story goes on and on over about a month. I may have some of this  
out of chronology but i'm trying.


On tuesday afternoon, i drove from Athens, GA to near Pensacola, FL, a  
distance of about 450 miles each way. I was dragging a 1000 lb  
letterpress on the trailer on the to Pensacola.  When i started that  
trip, the rig would only make about 40 mph, but after a few miles, it  
picked up and i ran about 65 most of the way down i-85 and 65.


I delivered the press and turned around to come back to athens. I only  
shut the engine down a few times and it always started ok, but  
sometimes it does a strange thing. With a hot engine, i'll try to  
start it. I'll turn the engine over WAY too many times it it will not  
start. THEN i'll try again and it will start instantly. It does the  
same pattern every time.


Now, back to my return trip tuesday night/ wednesday. I went about 200  
miles till i was on the atlanta side of montgomery and the car would  
slow to about 40 mph  then after a while it would pick up and do  
better, but never more than about 60.


I changed the slightly dirty pre filter. I noticed that the new uro  
trash primer pump seemed to be leaking, so i put the old bosch one  
back on and it seemed to pump better and didn't leak.


So i limped home and went to sleep.

On Thursday, i messed with the car some more at the shop. I changed a  
bunch of crush washers on banjo fittings on the IP and on the filter  
body. I changed the fuel filter bolt with another one i had of the  
same type. I had trouble getting it primed again and ran the battery  
down. After charging it a while, i got it started and  drove home.  
About midnite last night i started the car and went to the bank. It  
didn't run well. Today, i went to start . no joy, i ran out of  
battery. I went to start my isuzu npr to use it and i ran out of  
battery there, too.


So, i charged the battery for 40 minutes  (6 amp charger) and got  
started and delivered a 300 lb type case up into the foothills of the  
mountains in Dahlonega, Ga a distance of about 60 miles. I didn't shut  
down and returned to the office. The car went 60 to 65 the entire way.  
I returned to the office. I un hitched my trailer and considered  
swapping the main vacuum hose assembly with one on another car, but  
only thought about it.


I started the warm engine with the usual over cranking to no result  
and then start the second try. I put it into gear and pressed the  
throttle and had no increase in RPM on the tach or increased engine  
sound. The engine has a slight bit of roughness at idle. With the  
transmission in park or neutral, i could rev the engine, but in gear i  
couldn't get any RPM. I finally got a little bit of increase in RPM  
and VERY SLOWLY limped home but it wouldn't pull much of a hill. I  
experimented with it a little and could get some forward motion, but  
was not able to pul

Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Greg Fiorentino]

Technically correct but wrong.

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Penoff
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

The feminine for "migrant".




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Greg Fiorentino]

La Migra is the Mexican's term for a US Immigration Officer or Border Patrol
agent or for a group of such agents collectively.  In common parlance the
noun "Migra" is often modified by the adjective "pinchi" or "pinche"
indicating a certain level of disrespect.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:20:30 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> There is no direct translation, but you may substitute any crude and 
> nasty adjective.  Most non-literal translations I've heard would have 
> to appear on "banned".

And what does "La Migra" mean? I tried looking that up on Google's
translation site and got no answer.

Craig

> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
> Craig
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:15 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled
> 
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:52:08 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
>  wrote:
> 
> > << Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La 
> > Migra.>>
> > 
> > You mean La PINCHI Migra.
> 
> And in English that is ... ?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Craig]

On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 20:14:11 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> The feminine for "migrant".

So the original,

> Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La Migra.

should have been,

> Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were looking
> for La Migra.

?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Dan Penoff]

The feminine for "migrant".




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Craig]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:20:30 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> There is no direct translation, but you may substitute any crude and
> nasty adjective.  Most non-literal translations I've heard would have
> to appear on "banned".

And what does "La Migra" mean? I tried looking that up on Google's
translation site and got no answer.

Craig

> Greg
> 
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> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:15 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled
> 
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:52:08 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
>  wrote:
> 
> > << Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La 
> > Migra.>>
> > 
> > You mean La PINCHI Migra.
> 
> And in English that is ... ?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

[WILTON]

Thnks.  


Wilt

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale



On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:07:02 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:


Yep, another Sondy Tale and a little more.


Great! I like your Sondy Tales!



Wonder how many and how often we cross such interesting paths and never
know it. Because of this, I'm more likely now to ask a new
acquaintance, "Where are you from originally?"  It's amazing how many
"strangers" are not so really "strange," after all, especially for one
who has lived in many different places.


Yes, it is amazing. It's a good idea to ask, as you say.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[WILTON]

Yep, reasonably nice-looking and unafraid, even jovial, white guy with white 
hair driving a purring 27-year-old Mercedes 124.


Wilton

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled


So what is interesting is that a black officer profiled you, whom I 
surmise is (are?) a white man.  I am guessing they were looking for people 
whose shades fall somewhere between you two.


Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La Migra.

--R


On 11/8/13 6:30 PM, WILTON wrote:
Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a 
NC Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve 
from a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing 
lights and the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my 
"license" ready as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young 
black man in his immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with the 
card, and as he was  reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him 
my military ID card instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was 
pulling it back to retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled out 
the wrong card."  He also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, 
you're alright, go ahead."


By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered 
such check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I 
had never seen that officer before.


If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check 
point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or 
any) Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show 
my license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it 
more in the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in many 
years.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[WILTON]

Yes

Wilt

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled



It sounds to me like the profiling was to let you go after the quick look.
That's what I would've done too.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:31 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a 
NC
Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve 
from
a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing lights 
and
the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my "license" 
ready

as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young black man in his
immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with the card, and as he was
reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him my military ID card
instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was pulling it back to
retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled out the wrong card."  He
also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, you're alright, go ahead."


By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered 
such
check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I had 
never

seen that officer before.

If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check
point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any)
Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my
license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more 
in

the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in many years.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[WILTON]

Right.  ;<)

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled


Of course you said nothing about the three migrant workers in your trunk, 
of course


(Just kidding!)

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:35 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

Actually, that's 63 ½ years with a driving license in my pocket.

Wilt

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Profiled


Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a 
NC Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a 
curve from a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the 
flashing lights and the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and 
had my "license" ready as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking 
young black man in his immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with 
the card, and as he was  reaching for it, I realized that I was handing 
him my military ID card instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I 
was pulling it back to retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled 
out the wrong card."  He also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, 
you're alright, go ahead."


By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered 
such check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I 
had never seen that officer before.


If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check 
point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or 
any) Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show 
my license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it 
more in the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in 
many years.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Greg Fiorentino]

There is no direct translation, but you may substitute any crude and nasty
adjective.  Most non-literal translations I've heard would have to appear on
"banned".

Greg

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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:52:08 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> << Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La 
> Migra.>>
> 
> You mean La PINCHI Migra.

And in English that is ... ?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Craig]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:52:08 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> << Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La
> Migra.>>
> 
> You mean La PINCHI Migra.

And in English that is ... ?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

[Craig]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:07:02 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

> Yep, another Sondy Tale and a little more.

Great! I like your Sondy Tales!


> Wonder how many and how often we cross such interesting paths and never
> know it. Because of this, I'm more likely now to ask a new
> acquaintance, "Where are you from originally?"  It's amazing how many
> "strangers" are not so really "strange," after all, especially for one
> who has lived in many different places.

Yes, it is amazing. It's a good idea to ask, as you say.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Greg Fiorentino]

<< Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La
Migra.>>

You mean La PINCHI Migra.

USBP rhyme: "De donde viene, a donde va?  No le hace get in the car!"

Greg

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Thomas
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

So what is interesting is that a black officer profiled you, whom I surmise
is (are?) a white man.  I am guessing they were looking for people whose
shades fall somewhere between you two.

Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La Migra.

--R


On 11/8/13 6:30 PM, WILTON wrote:
> Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a
NC Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve
from a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing
lights and the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my
"license" ready as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young
black man in his immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with the card,
and as he was  reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him my
military ID card instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was pulling
it back to retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled out the wrong
card."  He also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, you're alright, go
ahead."
>
> By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered
such check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I had
never seen that officer before.
>
> If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check
point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any)
Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my
license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more in
the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in many years.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Greg Fiorentino]

It sounds to me like the profiling was to let you go after the quick look.
That's what I would've done too.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a NC
Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve from
a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing lights and
the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my "license" ready
as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young black man in his
immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with the card, and as he was
reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him my military ID card
instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was pulling it back to
retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled out the wrong card."  He
also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, you're alright, go ahead."


By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered such
check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I had never
seen that officer before.

If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check
point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any)
Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my
license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more in
the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in many years.

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Dan Penoff]

Of course you said nothing about the three migrant workers in your trunk, of 
course

(Just kidding!)

Dan

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> On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:35 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:
> 
> Actually, that's 63 ½ years with a driving license in my pocket.
> 
> Wilt
> 
> - Original Message - From: "WILTON" 
> To: "mercedes list" 
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:30 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Profiled
> 
> 
>> Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a NC 
>> Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve from 
>> a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing lights and 
>> the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my "license" ready 
>> as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young black man in his 
>> immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with the card, and as he was  
>> reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him my military ID card 
>> instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was pulling it back to 
>> retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled out the wrong card."  He 
>> also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, you're alright, go ahead."
>> 
>> By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered such 
>> check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I had never 
>> seen that officer before.
>> 
>> If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check 
>> point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any) 
>> Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my 
>> license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more in 
>> the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in many years.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[Rich Thomas]

So what is interesting is that a black officer profiled you, whom I 
surmise is (are?) a white man.  I am guessing they were looking for 
people whose shades fall somewhere between you two.


Same thing happened to us in South Texas once, but the LE were La Migra.

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On 11/8/13 6:30 PM, WILTON wrote:

Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a NC Highway Patrol license check 
point just down a hill and around a curve from a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the 
flashing lights and the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my "license" ready as 
I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young black man in his immaculate uniform.  As I reached 
toward him with the card, and as he was  reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him my military ID 
card instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was pulling it back to retrieve the right card and said, 
"Oh, I pulled out the wrong card."  He also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, you're 
alright, go ahead."

By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered such 
check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I had never 
seen that officer before.

If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check point, 
it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any) Air Force 
or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my license only very 
rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more in the last 2 months out 
near that chicken plant than I have in many years.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Profiled

[WILTON]

Actually, that's 63 ½ years with a driving license in my pocket.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "mercedes list" 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Profiled


Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a 
NC Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve 
from a chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing 
lights and the officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my 
"license" ready as I pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young 
black man in his immaculate uniform.  As I reached toward him with the 
card, and as he was  reaching for it, I realized that I was handing him my 
military ID card instead of my license.  I suddenly laughed as I was 
pulling it back to retrieve the right card and said, "Oh, I pulled out the 
wrong card."  He also chuckled and said as he waved me on, "Oh, you're 
alright, go ahead."


By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered 
such check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I 
had never seen that officer before.


If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check 
point, it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any) 
Air Force or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my 
license only very rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more 
in the last 2 months out near that chicken plant than I have in many 
years.


Wilton
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[MBZ] OT - Profiled

[WILTON]

Coupla days ago, I was en route to my rental house, when I encountered a NC 
Highway Patrol license check point just down a hill and around a curve from a 
chicken processing plant.  Immediately upon seeing the flashing lights and the 
officers in the road, I pulled out my wallet and had my "license" ready as I 
pulled up to the tall, slim and nice-looking young black man in his immaculate 
uniform.  As I reached toward him with the card, and as he was  reaching for 
it, I realized that I was handing him my military ID card instead of my 
license.  I suddenly laughed as I was pulling it back to retrieve the right 
card and said, "Oh, I pulled out the wrong card."  He also chuckled and said as 
he waved me on, "Oh, you're alright, go ahead."

By the way, that's the sixth time in about 2 months that I encountered such 
check points somewhere in the area of that processing plant, but I had never 
seen that officer before.

If you're wondering why I would pull out my military ID at such a check point, 
it's 'cause that's what I hafta do when entering the local (or any) Air Force 
or military base - so, force of habit.  'Have had to show my license only very 
rarely in 62 years of having one.  'Have shown it more in the last 2 months out 
near that chicken plant than I have in many years.

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Gary Hurst]

if you get friendly with cops and have them talk to you candidly, it's
obvious why they don't want video.

i personally get along a lot better with the ones who are just sociopaths
who just like violence that the ones who feel that their terrorism somehow
protects and serves me


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, clay  wrote:

> Seattle cops are big on infringing upon the rights of the locals.  Shoot
> to kill, beat the living mexican urine out of downed suspects, rough up the
> non-caucasions, ignore the Fed inquiry into this sort of behaviour.
>
> clay
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > i am talking about this for 10 years.  most young cops think of the
> > citizenry as so much taliban.  most product of your beloved wars.  give
> > them up?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Larry T  wrote:
> >
> >> over the last few years more and more police forces are becoming
> >> militarized.  They receive military training, weapons and uniforms which
> >> often include masks that hide all but the officers' eyes.   Why is this
> a
> >> problem you might ask?  Well, todays your lucky day ;-)  The military is
> >> trained to locate and destroy.  Police are (supposed) to be trained to
> >> obtain a warrant issued by a judge and being the named person  in for a
> >> court to judge and determine punishment.
> >>
> >> When the Barney Fife's of the USA start wearing black uniforms that
> >> obscure their identity, carry automatic weapons, and then train to shoot
> >> 1st and ask questions later (for the protection of the public) we will
> have
> >> problems like those described.
> >>
> >> Larry.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/8/2013 2:27 PM, rickknoble wrote:
> >>
> >>> More proof the gestapo in some areas is out of control...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-
> >>> lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rick Knoble
> >>>
> >>> Sent from My Samsung tablet
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> >>>  Original message 
>  From Rick Knoble 
> >>> Date: 11/08/2013  12:52 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> >>> To Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>> Subject Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist..what do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Along these lines Karl Denninger has been posting on his blog the last
> >>> few days. Thank you Mitch Haley for turning me (us) on to this guy a
> few
> >>> years ago.
> >>>
> >>> New Mexico should be up in arms over this.
> >>>
> >>> http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225769
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[clay]

Seattle cops are big on infringing upon the rights of the locals.  Shoot to 
kill, beat the living mexican urine out of downed suspects, rough up the 
non-caucasions, ignore the Fed inquiry into this sort of behaviour.

clay


On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> i am talking about this for 10 years.  most young cops think of the
> citizenry as so much taliban.  most product of your beloved wars.  give
> them up?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Larry T  wrote:
> 
>> over the last few years more and more police forces are becoming
>> militarized.  They receive military training, weapons and uniforms which
>> often include masks that hide all but the officers' eyes.   Why is this a
>> problem you might ask?  Well, todays your lucky day ;-)  The military is
>> trained to locate and destroy.  Police are (supposed) to be trained to
>> obtain a warrant issued by a judge and being the named person  in for a
>> court to judge and determine punishment.
>> 
>> When the Barney Fife's of the USA start wearing black uniforms that
>> obscure their identity, carry automatic weapons, and then train to shoot
>> 1st and ask questions later (for the protection of the public) we will have
>> problems like those described.
>> 
>> Larry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/8/2013 2:27 PM, rickknoble wrote:
>> 
>>> More proof the gestapo in some areas is out of control...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-
>>> lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick Knoble
>>> 
>>> Sent from My Samsung tablet
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
 From Rick Knoble 
>>> Date: 11/08/2013  12:52 PM  (GMT-06:00)
>>> To Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Subject Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist..what do you think?
>>> 
>>> Along these lines Karl Denninger has been posting on his blog the last
>>> few days. Thank you Mitch Haley for turning me (us) on to this guy a few
>>> years ago.
>>> 
>>> New Mexico should be up in arms over this.
>>> 
>>> http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225769
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Gary Hurst]

i am talking about this for 10 years.  most young cops think of the
citizenry as so much taliban.  most product of your beloved wars.  give
them up?



On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Larry T  wrote:

> over the last few years more and more police forces are becoming
> militarized.  They receive military training, weapons and uniforms which
> often include masks that hide all but the officers' eyes.   Why is this a
> problem you might ask?  Well, todays your lucky day ;-)  The military is
> trained to locate and destroy.  Police are (supposed) to be trained to
> obtain a warrant issued by a judge and being the named person  in for a
> court to judge and determine punishment.
>
> When the Barney Fife's of the USA start wearing black uniforms that
> obscure their identity, carry automatic weapons, and then train to shoot
> 1st and ask questions later (for the protection of the public) we will have
> problems like those described.
>
> Larry.
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2013 2:27 PM, rickknoble wrote:
>
>> More proof the gestapo in some areas is out of control...
>>
>>
>> http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-
>> lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Knoble
>>
>> Sent from My Samsung tablet
>>
>>  Original message 
>> >From Rick Knoble 
>> Date: 11/08/2013  12:52 PM  (GMT-06:00)
>> To Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist..what do you think?
>>
>> Along these lines Karl Denninger has been posting on his blog the last
>> few days. Thank you Mitch Haley for turning me (us) on to this guy a few
>> years ago.
>>
>> New Mexico should be up in arms over this.
>>
>> http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225769
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Larry T]

over the last few years more and more police forces are becoming 
militarized.  They receive military training, weapons and uniforms which 
often include masks that hide all but the officers' eyes.   Why is this 
a problem you might ask?  Well, todays your lucky day ;-)  The military 
is trained to locate and destroy.  Police are (supposed) to be trained 
to obtain a warrant issued by a judge and being the named person  in for 
a court to judge and determine punishment.


When the Barney Fife's of the USA start wearing black uniforms that 
obscure their identity, carry automatic weapons, and then train to shoot 
1st and ask questions later (for the protection of the public) we will 
have problems like those described.


Larry.


On 11/8/2013 2:27 PM, rickknoble wrote:

More proof the gestapo in some areas is out of control...


http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897




Rick Knoble

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 Original message 
>From Rick Knoble 
Date: 11/08/2013  12:52 PM  (GMT-06:00)
To Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist..what do you think?

Along these lines Karl Denninger has been posting on his blog the last few 
days. Thank you Mitch Haley for turning me (us) on to this guy a few years ago.

New Mexico should be up in arms over this.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225769

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[rickknoble]

More proof the gestapo in some areas is out of control...


http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897




Rick Knoble

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>From Rick Knoble 
Date: 11/08/2013  12:52 PM  (GMT-06:00)
To Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist..what do you think?

Along these lines Karl Denninger has been posting on his blog the last few 
days. Thank you Mitch Haley for turning me (us) on to this guy a few years ago.

New Mexico should be up in arms over this.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225769

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Rick Knoble]

Along these lines Karl Denninger has been posting on his blog the last few 
days. Thank you Mitch Haley for turning me (us) on to this guy a few years ago. 

New Mexico should be up in arms over this. 

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225769

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Gary Hurst]

stop supporting the war on dugs.  stop supporting all the wars.  all of
these issues then disappear overnight

i know a guy who is a long hall trucker.  it's competitive and he doesn't
make that much money.  he says there is a 3% surcharge on credit cards so
he pays cash.  now he fears being robbed by government agents and is not
sure what to do.  sweet, huh?


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Larry T  wrote:

> This has been going on for a number of years.  There was a well publicized
> case on 60 Min I believe about a Lawn & Garden Center who lived in Tenn.
>  He was going to travel out of state to buy trees, bushes and flowers for
> his landscaping business.  He was questioned at the airport and when they
> found he was carrying approx $10K to buy the  (evidently the people he
> bought products from liked cash) inventory for his business.  None of that
> mattered.  His $10K was taken and he was still trying to get it back when
> his story appeared on TV.  Never heard if he got it back but he was on the
> verge of bankruptcy...
>
> The govt is run a muck and has been for some time.  I fear there are too
> many crooks running this country to see things change anytime soon.  And we
> end up with people electing Mcauliff as governor of Va -  he's basically a
> obama clone
>
> LarryT
>
>
> On 11/8/2013 11:31 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>
>> Craig,
>>Wow.  That is terrifying!  We have no rights any more.
>>
>> Mike
>> On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
>>
>>  On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has
 been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they
 appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice..

 What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?

 Mike

>>> Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that
>>> was "used in the committing of a crime", with all the unscrupulous
>>> extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, "Felons and
>>> Undocumented persons welcome!" seems somewhat beyond the pale. In
>>> addition,
>>>
>>> See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice
>>>
>>> See also
>>>
>>> http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/
>>> USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm
>>> which says a lot that is rather chilling.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Larry T]

This has been going on for a number of years.  There was a well 
publicized case on 60 Min I believe about a Lawn & Garden Center who 
lived in Tenn.  He was going to travel out of state to buy trees, bushes 
and flowers for his landscaping business.  He was questioned at the 
airport and when they found he was carrying approx $10K to buy the  
(evidently the people he bought products from liked cash) inventory for 
his business.  None of that mattered.  His $10K was taken and he was 
still trying to get it back when his story appeared on TV.  Never heard 
if he got it back but he was on the verge of bankruptcy...


The govt is run a muck and has been for some time.  I fear there are too 
many crooks running this country to see things change anytime soon.  And 
we end up with people electing Mcauliff as governor of Va -  he's 
basically a obama clone


LarryT

On 11/8/2013 11:31 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

Craig,
   Wow.  That is terrifying!  We have no rights any more.

Mike
On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:


On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield 
wrote:


I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has
been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they
appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice..

What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?

Mike

Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that
was "used in the committing of a crime", with all the unscrupulous
extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, "Felons and
Undocumented persons welcome!" seems somewhat beyond the pale. In
addition,

See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice

See also

http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm
which says a lot that is rather chilling.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Michael Canfield]

Nothing about it on Snopes.

Mike
On Nov 8, 2013 12:05 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Someone needs to check this out at Snopes.com.
>
> Sounds seriously bogus to me.
>
> > On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
> >
> > Craig,
> >  Wow.  That is terrifying!  We have no rights any more.
> >
> > Mike
> >> On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has
> >>> been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they
> >>> appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice..
> >>>
> >>> What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>
> >> Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that
> >> was "used in the committing of a crime", with all the unscrupulous
> >> extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, "Felons and
> >> Undocumented persons welcome!" seems somewhat beyond the pale. In
> >> addition,
> >>
> >> See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice
> >>
> >> See also
> >>
> >>
> http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm
> >> which says a lot that is rather chilling.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Dan Penoff]

Someone needs to check this out at Snopes.com.

Sounds seriously bogus to me.

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Michael Canfield  wrote:
> 
> Craig,
>  Wow.  That is terrifying!  We have no rights any more.
> 
> Mike
>> On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has
>>> been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they
>>> appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice..
>>> 
>>> What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>> 
>> Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that
>> was "used in the committing of a crime", with all the unscrupulous
>> extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, "Felons and
>> Undocumented persons welcome!" seems somewhat beyond the pale. In
>> addition,
>> 
>> See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice
>> 
>> See also
>> 
>> http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm
>> which says a lot that is rather chilling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Michael Canfield]

Craig,
  Wow.  That is terrifying!  We have no rights any more.

Mike
On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
>
> > I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has
> > been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they
> > appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice..
> >
> > What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?
> >
> > Mike
>
> Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that
> was "used in the committing of a crime", with all the unscrupulous
> extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, "Felons and
> Undocumented persons welcome!" seems somewhat beyond the pale. In
> addition,
>
> See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice
>
> See also
>
> http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm
> which says a lot that is rather chilling.
>
>
>
> Craig
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[MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

[WILTON]

Yep, another Sondy Tale and a little more.

SMALL WORLD
By Wilton Strickland

(The following tales of some unexpected, chance meetings illustrate what a 
really "small" world we occupy.  Though these meetings occurred much more 
recently, surprisingly, they relate directly back to my time as a teenager.)
On the Sunday morning after Christmas, 1978, while I was Director of 
Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, I had slept late, so I was 
the first to enter the dining hall when it opened for lunch at 1100.  I was 
taking a seat at my table when I noticed a young man of about 34, a master 
sergeant whom I had met briefly when he arrived from the States the 
afternoon before, go through the cafeteria line.  I asked him and some 
others to join me, and in a few minutes, there were six or eight at my table 
enjoying a rousing conversation.
The subject of Christmas came up, of course, and the newly-arrived sergeant 
commented that he always gets a little depressed at Christmas.  Somebody 
asked him why, and the sergeant replied that his father had been killed in a 
plane crash in his family's back yard on Christmas morning when he was a 
little boy.  This jogged my memory of a similar case near my home when I was 
14.  I thought I had noticed a bit of North Carolina accent in the sergeant's 
speech, and I asked him, "Where's home, where are you from originally?"  He 
replied, "North Carolina."  I said, "Yes, I thought so.  Me, too.  Where in 
NC?"  "Rocky Mount," he replied.  I exclaimed, "I'm from Nashville!"  (Ten 
miles west of Rocky Mount.)  Then he replied, "Well, I'm really from 
Battleboro." (A small village immediately north of Rocky Mount.)
In amazement, I responded, "Oh, Gosh!  I remember the morning your father 
was killed.  It was Christmas morning, 1948.  You were four years old.  You 
and your mother were standing in your back yard watching as your father and 
his friend showed-off the friend's new airplane by doing a little 
stunt-flying over your home.  Your father was a passenger in the aircraft 
flown by a local rich boy who had wrecked several new cars his dad had given 
him, and on this particular morning, you and your mother watched as he 
crashed his new airplane in your back yard, killing himself and your father. 
I remember it as if it were yesterday, yet, here we sit, finally meeting 
thirty years later in Greenland!"  It is, indeed, a small world, isn't it?
Another small-world indicator: Several years ago, I arrived at a house here 
in Goldsboro to do a home inspection for a client who was buying the house. 
I approached a man in the garage of the empty house who identified himself 
as the seller, Lucian Vick.  I introduced myself and began the inspection 
there in the garage.  For several years, I had occasionally heard the name, 
Lucian Vick, around town, and it always sounded vaguely familiar, somehow, 
as it did this day.
A few minutes after I started the inspection, I asked Mr. Vick, "By the way, 
Lucian, where are you from originally?"  He responded, "Nashville."  I 
suddenly realized why the name had seemed familiar; I turned quickly to him 
and exclaimed, "I'm from Nashville, too!  You're the little three or 
four-year-old boy who was playing around us and under the table the summer 
of 1956 while I was tutoring your brother, Johnny, in calculus and 
analytical geometry!  Your father had hired me to help Johnny with a 
correspondence course from NC State College that summer."
Another one:   In early 2004, a Rotary Club friend of my wife, Alice, was 
visiting our home in Goldsboro for a few minutes.  During our conversation, 
I asked him, "By the way, Frank, where are you from originally?"  He told 
me, then added, "My dad was from Whitakers, in Nash County; my mom is from 
Nashville."  I replied, "We're from Nashville, too!  What's her name?" 
"Anne Myrick," he answered.  I exclaimed, "She's the pretty, sweet little 3 
or 4-year-old daughter of the Stedman's Grocery Store manager in Nashville 
in the early to mid-50's.  Many days at about closing time while I was 
working there, she and her mom would arrive to give her dad a ride home. 
Anne would come running into the store, give me a hug and pull at me to play 
with her.  I would often lift her and set her on the edge of a sales counter 
and talk to her and play little child games with her while her dad completed 
the day's tally at the cash register and her mom beamed with pride nearby. 
I've often wondered what had happened to her over the last 50+ years."
And another one:  Several years ago, while I was in a family waiting room 
at the local hospital awaiting news from the surgeon who was doing 
cancer-related surgery on Alice, the hospital chaplain, Richard Hunt, came 
in to wait with me.  We had visited briefly with Richard and his wife 
several times at Community Arts Council functions, where Alice had been 
Executive Director for many years.  Sometime during our wait at the 
hospital, Richard asked me were I