Re: [MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[arche...@embarqmail.com]

Emergency items for '83 300D:

long flat blade screw driver for primary filter
medium flat and phillips screwdrivers
small flat and phillips screwdrivers
large end wrench for secondary filter
channelock, vicegrip, needlenose, and sliplock pliers
1/2" drive socket and breakover handle for lug nuts
set of 3/8" wrenches with ratchet handle
multimeter
rolls of 12, 14, and 16 gauge wire
assorted bulbs and fuses
plastic sheet to lie on
3' fuel line
3' return line
3' vacuum line
radiator hose wrap-around tape
plastic tape
epoxy steel
gorilla glue
2 gallons of water
quart of ATF
5 qts of oil
wheel chock
and probably several other items I can't remember off hand.

This may seem like a lot, but it all goes easily into 2 gallon plastic 
freezer bags that fit in gulley on the side of the trunk; except, of 
course, for the oil which sits against the back of the trunk and the 
water which goes in the cab.  On out-of-state trips I also take a spare 
water pump.

Gerry

On 1/16/2014 11:22 PM, OK Don wrote:

The basic tool kit that came with the car is pretty good (it was ENGINEERED
to go with the car by MB). I would just verify that you have everything
needed to change the canister fuel filter. The multi-meter is a good
addition since the cars are getting old.
Some of the later ones came with a tool to guide the spare tire/wheel onto
the hub - found one in the SDL kit, then made a goal of adding them to
every kit - sure makes aligning that first lug bolt easy!





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Re: [MBZ] bicycle lesson

[Gary Hurst]

hmmm, lock washer swapped for loctite?  hmm, sounds scary but i might
go for it



On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:51 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Lock-tite is your friend . . .
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> >
> > and i kinda feel weird about the idea of removing lock washers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] Microwave Ovens on End

[arche...@embarqmail.com]

Does anyone know if microwave ovens can be operated sitting on the end 
opposite the electronics?
I don't see why it wouldn't work, and I doubt there is a tilt mechanism 
such as in small electric heaters, but thought I'd ask since it's a slow 
day.
The reason is, I'd like to sit my tall coffee cup in one of the very 
small microwaves with it sitting on a long worktable.  That way I can 
reheat the coffee when it gets cold without interrupting work.

Thanks,
Gerry

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[MBZ] Target, Neiman Marcus, and RAM scrapers [was: Re: Hendrik, was that you?]

[Craig]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:17:01 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> They have been doing the RFID thing in Europe for a while.  A great way
> to do it, as you never have to surrender your card to a server to get
> it swiped.
> 
> Just had a briefing today at work from a security consultant on the
> Target breach - pretty interesting how it was done - with a "RAM
> scraper".

http://recode.net/2014/01/13/what-the-heck-is-a-ram-scraper/

http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/business-financial/319767-how-ram-scraper-malware-stole-data-from-target-neiman-marcus


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Re: [MBZ] bicycle lesson

[Gary Hurst]

trek lists the spacing as 135mm in their literature so i just took it at
face value and didn't measure first


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:51 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Lock-tite is your friend . . .
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> >
> > and i kinda feel weird about the idea of removing lock washers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] bicycle lesson

[OK Don]

Lock-tite is your friend . . .


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

>
> and i kinda feel weird about the idea of removing lock washers
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Machines

[Craig]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:07:43 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >oldmachinepress.wordpress.com
> >
> >I bet some of us might enjoy seeing pictures of these old beasts.
> >mao
> 
> Cool.  I like 
> http://oldmachinepress.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/inside-the-cylinder-of-a-diesel-engine-by-harry-ricardo/
> 
> and the 30 cyl sherman tank engine,  if only it were a Diesel!
> 
> Shermans were known as easy to blow up because of the gasoline inside.

I also like,

https://oldmachinepress.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/fairbanks-morse-model-32-stationary-engine/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] bicycle lesson

[Gary Hurst]

you think it would be feasible to file down the nuts?

and i kinda feel weird about the idea of removing lock washers


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:32 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> You either need a good file, or a bigger hammer. The alternative is to heat
> the space and cool the wide part 
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > seems you can't put something 135mm wide in a 132mm space.  well, at
> least
> > i can't
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
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> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] bicycle lesson

[OK Don]

You either need a good file, or a bigger hammer. The alternative is to heat
the space and cool the wide part 


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> seems you can't put something 135mm wide in a 132mm space.  well, at least
> i can't
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[OK Don]

The basic tool kit that came with the car is pretty good (it was ENGINEERED
to go with the car by MB). I would just verify that you have everything
needed to change the canister fuel filter. The multi-meter is a good
addition since the cars are getting old.
Some of the later ones came with a tool to guide the spare tire/wheel onto
the hub - found one in the SDL kit, then made a goal of adding them to
every kit - sure makes aligning that first lug bolt easy!


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>
OK Don
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safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] bicycle lesson

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:

seems you can't put something 135mm wide in a 132mm space.  well, at least
i can't


Depends on how stiff the frame is.
People used to stick 126mm 6 speed hubs in 120mm steel frames all the time.
You sort of needed two hands to spread the triangle and one hand to stick the 
wheel in.


Can you pull a lock washer or two off of the axle? If it's quick release you 
might make the axle stick out too far past the nuts but an extra 3mm of axle 
probably doesn't matter.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[OK Don]

Ah! You need a 3D printer - make a new one. Sell them to others ---


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> What do you do to the plastic to ensure that the epoxy will adhere? Sand
> it to roughen the surface? Clean it with some chemical to ensure it does
> not reject your efforts?
>
> Randy
>
>  The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
>>> I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes
>>> to hold it on.
>>> I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic
>>> pins but not both of them.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>


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[MBZ] bicycle lesson

[Gary Hurst]

seems you can't put something 135mm wide in a 132mm space.  well, at least
i can't

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Machines

[Dieselhead]

oldmachinepress.wordpress.com

I bet some of us might enjoy seeing pictures of these old beasts.
mao


Cool.  I like 
http://oldmachinepress.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/inside-the-cylinder-of-a-diesel-engine-by-harry-ricardo/


and the 30 cyl sherman tank engine,  if only it were a Diesel!

Shermans were known as easy to blow up because of the gasoline inside.

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[MBZ] OT - Machines

[Mountain Man]

oldmachinepress.wordpress.com

I bet some of us might enjoy seeing pictures of these old beasts.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[Mountain Man]

mao wrote:
> dseretakis wrote:
>> It means silent assassin;)
>
> And at times it means preacher.

Eh... What's the difference.
Really.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[Mountain Man]

dseretakis wrote:
> It means silent assassin;)

And at times it means preacher.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother Sondy Tale - Panama City

[Mountain Man]

Dave wrote:
> Just when I think you guys are getting too political or there is precious 
> little MB content, Wilton will post one of these and I stick around.
>

I dunno...
I have never reached the point where the delete key is too hard to
reach for threads and chatter I don't want to read.  It is the threads
I want to read and then the chatter that makes me know I know some
people in lotsa places.  Eh... maybe you guys all have enough social
time and chatter at work.  Me? - not so much.  Too young to collect
social.  I may not make it, but... that is the purpose of eating and
sleeping.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[Mountain Man]

Andrew wrote:
> Might as well add 8, 12, 14 and 17 and call it a day.

W123 has sooo few of those sizes, it is hardly necessary, unless I am
carrying emergency tools to help someone else... now that is such a
kind thoughtful idea, but... too much space.  Ratchet handle and small
breaker each with one socket fits right in the map pocket with
screwdriver and most easy repairs can probably happen.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?

[Mitch Haley]

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Ach, die Jugend von heute...


Hey, I crested a pretty big hill last month.
Even if I last as long as Uncle Clyde my life is half over.
Few of my relatives, and no other male relative, lived as long as he did.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/lsj/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=167755184

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[dseretakis]

It means silent assassin;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

> No, it means "brilliant; infallible; a paragon among men"
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
> wrote:
> 
>> So does "Strasfogel" literally mean "street bird"?  Maybe a translation for
>> the Polish word for "pigeon"?  gołąb  which is a pretty common name in
>> those
>> parts.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Strasfogel
>> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:10 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew
>> 
>> Spelled that way because it is Polish, with Germanic origin back to the mid
>> 19th century when national boundaries were, shall we say,  different..
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> very witty. I especially liked the Germanic spelling of strasfogel
>>> 
>>> I figger that was the original, pre-1917.  Besides, it will help keep
>> your
>>> cover.   Glad you like it.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Of course it means street bird.  Or pigeon if you want to take a little
poetic license.


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> No, it means "brilliant; infallible; a paragon among men"
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
> wrote:
>
>> So does "Strasfogel" literally mean "street bird"?  Maybe a translation
>> for
>> the Polish word for "pigeon"?  gołąb  which is a pretty common name in
>> those
>> parts.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Strasfogel
>> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:10 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew
>>
>> Spelled that way because it is Polish, with Germanic origin back to the
>> mid
>> 19th century when national boundaries were, shall we say,  different..
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >  very witty. I especially liked the Germanic spelling of strasfogel
>> >>
>> >
>> > I figger that was the original, pre-1917.  Besides, it will help keep
>> your
>> > cover.   Glad you like it.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] slow list today and possibly tomorrow as well

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I would expend all my energy into finding a good used replacement panel
from that era.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mercedes+door+%2B+%281974%2C+1975%2C+1976%2C+74%2C+75%2C+76%2C+114%2C+115%29+-sl%2C+-450sl&_ipg=50&_sadis=200&_ftrv=1&_sop=12&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_dmd=1&_ftrt=901&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xmercedes+door+panel+%2B+%281974%2C+1975%2C+1976%2C+74%2C+75%2C+76%2C+114%2C+115%29+-sl%2C+-450sl&_nkw=mercedes+door+panel+%2B+%281974%2C+1975%2C+1976%2C+74%2C+75%2C+76%2C+114%2C+115%29+-sl%2C+-450sl&_sacat=0


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Fencing wire will do the trick. Hammer and nails maybe, depending on how
> far out into the boonies you live.
>
> Hendrik
> who has lots of fencing wire to keep the old crates going
>
> On 17/01/14 06:41, clay wrote:
>
>> mount to the panel.  Teeth on the bottom hook through, and the tops are
>> fastened on.
>>
>> clay
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>
>>  I have not tried to find any as I had heard long ago that they were not
>>> readily available.
>>> My passenger side is fine.
>>> The driver's side is ok except for the little corner spots where the
>>> pins go through.
>>> They look fine from the outside.
>>> I sort of plan to fix with epoxy and maybe drill holes through the outer
>>> part in order to put screws in to hold it in place.
>>> Not original but this is an old driver and not a show car.
>>> Wouldn't mind coming up with a way that does not require the holes to be
>>> drilled but so far have not determined what that might be.
>>>
>>> Anyone know if these just mount to the inside door panel? Could I fasten
>>> it onto that with some form of rivet from the back and then install the
>>> whole thing? Or does it mount to the metal itself via the original hardware?
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother Sondy Tale - Panama City

[Dave]

> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:08:12 -0500
> From: "WILTON" 
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> Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already.
> 
> PANAMA CITY BEACH
> By Wilton Strickland
> 
> My year as Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, from
> 4 February, 1978, to 8 February, 1979, was extremely busy, enjoyable,
> interesting and possibly the most productive assignment I had during my 22
> years on Air Force active duty.  

Just when I think you guys are getting too political or there is precious 
little MB content, Wilton will post one of these and I stick around. Thank you 
Sir.

dave
Lynnwood, Wa.

'82 300CD - Daily commuter, work in progress
'95 E300D - Gilda
'98 Volvo S70 Turbo  - going on Craigslist next month
'89 Chev conversion van

and many, many more.

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[Andrew Strasfogel]

No, it means "brilliant; infallible; a paragon among men"


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> So does "Strasfogel" literally mean "street bird"?  Maybe a translation for
> the Polish word for "pigeon"?  gołąb  which is a pretty common name in
> those
> parts.
>
> Greg
>
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> Strasfogel
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>
> Spelled that way because it is Polish, with Germanic origin back to the mid
> 19th century when national boundaries were, shall we say,  different..
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  very witty. I especially liked the Germanic spelling of strasfogel
> >>
> >
> > I figger that was the original, pre-1917.  Besides, it will help keep
> your
> > cover.   Glad you like it.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Ach, die Jugend von heute...


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Mountain Man wrote:
>
>> Mitch wrote:
>>
>>> Man I hate this getting older stuff.
>>>
>>
>> You ain't old.
>> What grade were you in when JFK ended?
>>
>
> Me?
> I was almost born prematurely when my mom freaked out on November 22.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Might as well add 8, 12, 14 and 17 and call it a day.


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> I carry couple sockets and old ratchet - 10 & 13.  I think that fits
> most fasteners that might need quick attention.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik, was that you?

[Dan Penoff]

They have been doing the RFID thing in Europe for a while.  A great way to do 
it, as you never have to surrender your card to a server to get it swiped.

Just had a briefing today at work from a security consultant on the Target 
breach - pretty interesting how it was done - with a "RAM scraper".

Dan

On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> Yeah it's got to that stage where Fay has to do all the buying of stuff in 
> shops.
> Seriously though, I can't keep up with all the changes, now they got that 
> wave pay/tap and go or whatever it's called and I get confused between that 
> and sticking the card in and some places won't allow you to use a debit CC 
> without a pin number and pretty soon all you will be able to do is use a pin 
> and then there won't be any need for me to remember how to write my name but 
> I will need to know a bunch of numbers.
> 
> Hendrik
> who is still surviving by living in the pool
> 


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Re: [MBZ] slow list today and possibly tomorrow as well

[Hendrik and Fay]

Fencing wire will do the trick. Hammer and nails maybe, depending on how 
far out into the boonies you live.


Hendrik
who has lots of fencing wire to keep the old crates going

On 17/01/14 06:41, clay wrote:

mount to the panel.  Teeth on the bottom hook through, and the tops are 
fastened on.

clay



On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:


I have not tried to find any as I had heard long ago that they were not readily 
available.
My passenger side is fine.
The driver's side is ok except for the little corner spots where the pins go 
through.
They look fine from the outside.
I sort of plan to fix with epoxy and maybe drill holes through the outer part 
in order to put screws in to hold it in place.
Not original but this is an old driver and not a show car.
Wouldn't mind coming up with a way that does not require the holes to be 
drilled but so far have not determined what that might be.

Anyone know if these just mount to the inside door panel? Could I fasten it 
onto that with some form of rivet from the back and then install the whole 
thing? Or does it mount to the metal itself via the original hardware?

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik, was that you?

[Hendrik and Fay]

Yeah it's got to that stage where Fay has to do all the buying of stuff 
in shops.
Seriously though, I can't keep up with all the changes, now they got 
that wave pay/tap and go or whatever it's called and I get confused 
between that and sticking the card in and some places won't allow you to 
use a debit CC without a pin number and pretty soon all you will be able 
to do is use a pin and then there won't be any need for me to remember 
how to write my name but I will need to know a bunch of numbers.


Hendrik
who is still surviving by living in the pool

On 17/01/14 00:33, Mitch Haley wrote:
When I was ready to check out and pay for my groceries the cashier 
said, "Strip down, facing me."


Making a mental note so I could complain to my local MP about this 
running amok security crap, I did just as she had instructed.


After the shrieking and hysterical remarks finally subsided, I found 
out that she was referring to how I should position my credit card.


Nonetheless, I've been asked to shop elsewhere in the future.

They need to make their instructions a little clearer for seniors.
Man I hate this getting older stuff.





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Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother Sondy Tale - Panama City

[Craig]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:08:12 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

> Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already.

Thank you, Wilton.

ATTABOY!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[Greg Fiorentino]

So does "Strasfogel" literally mean "street bird"?  Maybe a translation for
the Polish word for "pigeon"?  gołąb  which is a pretty common name in those
parts.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

Spelled that way because it is Polish, with Germanic origin back to the mid
19th century when national boundaries were, shall we say,  different..

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  very witty. I especially liked the Germanic spelling of strasfogel
>>
>
> I figger that was the original, pre-1917.  Besides, it will help keep your
> cover.   Glad you like it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?

[Mitch Haley]

Mountain Man wrote:

Mitch wrote:

Man I hate this getting older stuff.


You ain't old.
What grade were you in when JFK ended?


Me?
I was almost born prematurely when my mom freaked out on November 22.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT - 'Nother Sondy Tale - Panama City

[WILTON]

Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already.

PANAMA CITY BEACH
By Wilton Strickland

My year as Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, from 
4 February, 1978, to 8 February, 1979, was extremely busy, enjoyable, 
interesting and possibly the most productive assignment I had during my 22 
years on Air Force active duty.  The scenery in the area is fantastically 
beautiful, and the people with whom I worked were very professional, 
agreeable and accommodating.  I never had time to think about being lonely - 
I was undoubtedly the busiest person on base and surely traveled more than 
anybody else there.  I was careful not to remind anybody about how my time 
away was accumulating, though the Base Commander did balk a bit in October, 
'78, when I went to 'im for his signature on a request form for a trip to 
Panama City Beach, FL, to give a briefing at a USAF Pavements Conference. 
When I laid the form in front of 'im and said, "Please sign this. I need to 
go to Panama City Beach, FL, to brief the Kulusuk Airfield drainage 
project."  He stormed (in mock anger), "What the Hell is this? You just got 
back a couple of weeks ago!" I responded, "Well, it was a couple of months 
ago, and I'm just trying to do my duty, and you know - I'm going to DO my 
duty, and you know I'll do it well.  Here's a message from Headquarters that 
says I need to go to Panama City Beach."  I handed 'im the message; he 
glanced at it and said, "It doesn't say you HAVE to go; it says you SHOULD 
go."  I responded, "Yes, I know, but you know how I feel about doing my 
duty."  As I was turning to leave with the signed document, I reminded him, 
"You know, I need to go to Copenhagen the first two weeks in December, and, 
oh, by the way, I'm taking Havbro (Danish contractor's chief engineer) with 
me to Panama City."  "Whoa, whoa, wait a minute," he sputtered, "Why does 
Havbro need to go?"  "For long-term continuity," I responded.  He persisted, 
"But, if he goes, why do you need to go?"  I also persisted, "Kulusuk is MY 
project; they want ME to brief it, and they're going to talk about lots of 
other things that can be beneficial to the base after I'm gone.  For 
example, we have a big runway re-paving project coming up next summer.  That's 
why Havbro should go."


I left Sondy aboard a New York Air National Guard C-130 on Friday morning 
before the Panama City Beach conference began on Monday, and made it home to 
Southern California to see my wife and two sons for a day and a half or so 
before proceeding to Florida on Sunday afternoon.  Havbro left Sondy on 
Saturday aboard a USAF C-141 to McGuire AFB, NJ, and arrived at Panama City 
Beach early Sunday morning.  Our rooms were ON the beach - the beach 
literally outside our doors - quite a pleasant, nearly tropical - and a bit 
shocking - change from the arctic conditions at Sondy, where the temperature 
was already hovering near 0° F.


At breakfast the next morning, Havbro told us about going to a restaurant 
and bar a few miles down the beach the previous night and stayed until after 
taxis had stopped running.
For a while, he and his newly-found Air Force friends thought they were 
stranded and were going to have to walk the 4 or 5 miles back to the hotel. 
Finally, a man driving a very ragged old car came along and offered them a 
ride.  During the few minutes riding to the hotel, the man told them that he 
had just bought the car the previous day for $10.  Everybody agreed that the 
tires alone surely must be worth at least $10.  Havbro remarked that he'd 
never ridden in a $10 car before.  We quickly reminded him that he had 
ridden in a worthless car on $10 tires.


My briefing on the Kulusuk drainage project went very well, but members of 
the audience seemed to be much more interested in the fantastic scenery in 
the backgrounds of my slides.  I tended to agree and easily veered several 
times into a Greenland travelogue and told them that they should volunteer 
for a government "all-expenses-paid" trip there sometime.  (Traditionally, 
since the early 1950's, anyway, one of the biggest threats in the Air Force 
has been "getting sent to Thule," - in the far north of Greenland.)  I 
assured them that for me an assignment to Sondrestrom was a lot better than 
an assignment to Korea.  "Before my assignment to Greenland, friends were 
telling me I should volunteer for Korea.  Well, first, I would never leave 
the family voluntarily, and Sondrestrom has worked out much better for me. 
I've been able to talk to my wife a couple of times a week, and because of 
Greenland's proximity to the States, I've been able to get home to see the 
family, at least briefly,  about every two and a half months.  My job has 
also given me the opportunity to take several short trips to other very 
interesting sites in Greenland.  'Even visiting Panama City Beach right now 
and will be going to Copenhagen the first two weeks in December.  How's that 
for an assignment in the "briar patc

Re: [MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[Mountain Man]

I carry couple sockets and old ratchet - 10 & 13.  I think that fits
most fasteners that might need quick attention.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?

[Mountain Man]

Mitch wrote:
> Man I hate this getting older stuff.

You ain't old.
What grade were you in when JFK ended?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[Dieselhead]

Spelled that way because it is Polish, with Germanic origin back to the mid
19th century when national boundaries were, shall we say,  different..


So that makes SA a well Polish-ed German

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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[Randy Bennell]

What do you do to the plastic to ensure that the epoxy will adhere? Sand 
it to roughen the surface? Clean it with some chemical to ensure it does 
not reject your efforts?


Randy

On 16/01/2014 2:08 PM, clay wrote:

I might have a working pocket.  You would need to paint it to match your 
interior.

I faked a way with the pockets on Gump.  I too had corner connector failures.  
A little bit of a landing to use, so I epoxied a nut to the pocket, then used a 
stubby bolt/screw to go through the panel.  A washer on the back help to both 
shim and to reduce tear through

clay


On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:


so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.

The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes to 
hold it on.
I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic pins 
but not both of them.

Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[Randy Bennell]

On 16/01/2014 3:18 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Randy Bennell wrote:
Ok, so this has likely been beaten to death on many forums but here 
goes anyway:


What do you or would you keep in a small tool kit in your vehicle?
I am fortunate enough to have the original tool roll and its contents 
in my 300D but is there anything specific you would add to it?


First thing that comes to mind is a test light or a $5 Harbor Freight 
voltmeter.

An assortment of fuses is kept in the glove box of all my cars.

Mitch.

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when I posed the question. Both the light and the meter would be a good 
idea. Sometimes the meter will indicate voltage but there is not enough 
to actually run anything, even the little test light.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[Mitch Haley]

Randy Bennell wrote:
Ok, so this has likely been beaten to death on many forums but here goes 
anyway:


What do you or would you keep in a small tool kit in your vehicle?
I am fortunate enough to have the original tool roll and its contents in 
my 300D but is there anything specific you would add to it?


First thing that comes to mind is a test light or a $5 Harbor Freight voltmeter.
An assortment of fuses is kept in the glove box of all my cars.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Spelled that way because it is Polish, with Germanic origin back to the mid
19th century when national boundaries were, shall we say,  different..

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  very witty. I especially liked the Germanic spelling of strasfogel
>>
>
> I figger that was the original, pre-1917.  Besides, it will help keep your
> cover.   Glad you like it.
>
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[MBZ] Another Q for you - just to keep your minds sharp

[Randy Bennell]

Ok, so this has likely been beaten to death on many forums but here goes 
anyway:


What do you or would you keep in a small tool kit in your vehicle?
I am fortunate enough to have the original tool roll and its contents in 
my 300D but is there anything specific you would add to it?
I don't recall the exact contents of the factory roll but I assume that 
MB gave some considerable thought to the contents.
Do new motorcycles still come with a basic tool kit? I recall that my 
Honda bikes did back in the 60's and 70's.


Also, I plan to make up one to carry in my truck and another for the 
boat. I used to carry a big plastic tool box around in my truck whenever 
I left town but it was cumbersome and I think a tool roll would be less 
of an issue as it would take less space. I would need a second box or 
container of some sort for other things like tape, wire, pull ties etc 
but that should not be too much trouble to put in a zip lock bag or 
something similar.


The boat is another story as spare spark plugs and fuel filters and such 
might be more of an issue for it than for the wheeled vehicles.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[Randy Bennell]

Ok, so if it just mounts to the panel it should not be a problem.
I like the idea of attaching a nut with epoxy and then running a short 
bolt through from behind.
Or, I could likely attach a short bolt with epoxy and then put the nut 
on the back of the panel. That might work even better.


Will check it out and let you know if I think I might need the pocket 
you have. At least shipping should be reasonable as they are not heavy.


Did you ever get the seats re-done on your car?

Randy

On 16/01/2014 2:11 PM, clay wrote:

mount to the panel.  Teeth on the bottom hook through, and the tops are 
fastened on.

clay



On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:


I have not tried to find any as I had heard long ago that they were not readily 
available.
My passenger side is fine.
The driver's side is ok except for the little corner spots where the pins go 
through.
They look fine from the outside.
I sort of plan to fix with epoxy and maybe drill holes through the outer part 
in order to put screws in to hold it in place.
Not original but this is an old driver and not a show car.
Wouldn't mind coming up with a way that does not require the holes to be 
drilled but so far have not determined what that might be.

Anyone know if these just mount to the inside door panel? Could I fasten it 
onto that with some form of rivet from the back and then install the whole 
thing? Or does it mount to the metal itself via the original hardware?

Randy

On 16/01/2014 1:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Just as the plastic ones were/are on the W123s.

I think they have been unobtanium for a while.

Dan


On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

Can you source new or used pockets? They are a weak point on the W115.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.

The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes to 
hold it on.
I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic pins 
but not both of them.

Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[Dan Penoff]

I don't recall how these were affixed in the W114/5, but on the W123 models I 
seem to recall them hooking into the door panel.

Dan

> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
> I have not tried to find any as I had heard long ago that they were not 
> readily available.
> My passenger side is fine.
> The driver's side is ok except for the little corner spots where the pins go 
> through.
> They look fine from the outside.
> I sort of plan to fix with epoxy and maybe drill holes through the outer part 
> in order to put screws in to hold it in place.
> Not original but this is an old driver and not a show car.
> Wouldn't mind coming up with a way that does not require the holes to be 
> drilled but so far have not determined what that might be.
> 
> Anyone know if these just mount to the inside door panel? Could I fasten it 
> onto that with some form of rivet from the back and then install the whole 
> thing? Or does it mount to the metal itself via the original hardware?
> 
> Randy
> 
>> On 16/01/2014 1:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Just as the plastic ones were/are on the W123s.
>> 
>> I think they have been unobtanium for a while.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you source new or used pockets? They are a weak point on the W115.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
 
 so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.
 
 The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
 I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes 
 to hold it on.
 I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic 
 pins but not both of them.
 
 Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?
 
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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[clay]

mount to the panel.  Teeth on the bottom hook through, and the tops are 
fastened on.

clay



On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

> I have not tried to find any as I had heard long ago that they were not 
> readily available.
> My passenger side is fine.
> The driver's side is ok except for the little corner spots where the pins go 
> through.
> They look fine from the outside.
> I sort of plan to fix with epoxy and maybe drill holes through the outer part 
> in order to put screws in to hold it in place.
> Not original but this is an old driver and not a show car.
> Wouldn't mind coming up with a way that does not require the holes to be 
> drilled but so far have not determined what that might be.
> 
> Anyone know if these just mount to the inside door panel? Could I fasten it 
> onto that with some form of rivet from the back and then install the whole 
> thing? Or does it mount to the metal itself via the original hardware?
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 16/01/2014 1:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Just as the plastic ones were/are on the W123s.
>> 
>> I think they have been unobtanium for a while.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you source new or used pockets? They are a weak point on the W115.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
 
 so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.
 
 The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
 I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes 
 to hold it on.
 I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic 
 pins but not both of them.
 
 Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?
 
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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[clay]

I might have a working pocket.  You would need to paint it to match your 
interior.

I faked a way with the pockets on Gump.  I too had corner connector failures.  
A little bit of a landing to use, so I epoxied a nut to the pocket, then used a 
stubby bolt/screw to go through the panel.  A washer on the back help to both 
shim and to reduce tear through

clay


On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

> so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.
> 
> The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
> I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes to 
> hold it on.
> I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic pins 
> but not both of them.
> 
> Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[Randy Bennell]

I have not tried to find any as I had heard long ago that they were not 
readily available.

My passenger side is fine.
The driver's side is ok except for the little corner spots where the 
pins go through.

They look fine from the outside.
I sort of plan to fix with epoxy and maybe drill holes through the outer 
part in order to put screws in to hold it in place.

Not original but this is an old driver and not a show car.
Wouldn't mind coming up with a way that does not require the holes to be 
drilled but so far have not determined what that might be.


Anyone know if these just mount to the inside door panel? Could I fasten 
it onto that with some form of rivet from the back and then install the 
whole thing? Or does it mount to the metal itself via the original hardware?


Randy

On 16/01/2014 1:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Just as the plastic ones were/are on the W123s.

I think they have been unobtanium for a while.

Dan


On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

Can you source new or used pockets? They are a weak point on the W115.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.

The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes to 
hold it on.
I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic pins 
but not both of them.

Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[Dan Penoff]

Just as the plastic ones were/are on the W123s.

I think they have been unobtanium for a while.

Dan

> On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> Can you source new or used pockets? They are a weak point on the W115.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>> 
>> so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.
>> 
>> The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
>> I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes to 
>> hold it on.
>> I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic pins 
>> but not both of them.
>> 
>> Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?
>> 
>> Randy
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Can you source new or used pockets? They are a weak point on the W115.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.
> 
> The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
> I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes to 
> hold it on.
> I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic pins 
> but not both of them.
> 
> Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] slow list today

[OK Don]

Shoe goo and machine screws?


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.
>
> The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
> I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes
> to hold it on.
> I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic
> pins but not both of them.
>
> Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?
>
> Randy
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[MBZ] slow list today

[Randy Bennell]

so, I will ask a question that I think I have asked before.

The map pocket on the driver's door is not on my car  - '76 115 300D.
I have it but the corners are broken where the pins go through the holes 
to hold it on.
I think I have - or at least did have - one of the little black plastic 
pins but not both of them.


Any suggestions on the best way to repair this?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding bloody Stuck bolt removers

[Larry T]

Sounds like a similar situation I am having with my brake bleeders on 
the rear of our w124.   I tried the suggestions from the list and had no 
luck.  I may have to drill them out I have some left hand drill bits 
that may help...


Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/15/2014 8:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Does the system have to be bleed?
It is my understanding that when the valve is in the neutral position 
fluid just circulates.


Hendrik
who is not bleeding

On 16/01/14 07:55, Mitch Haley wrote:

Greg Fiorentino wrote:

I have found Irwin's tools to be serviceable.


What's funny, considering the fact that Irwin moved the Vice-Grip 
factory to China, is the labeling on the bolt extractor packaging. 
"Made in USA with Global Components" - what does that mean when the 
tool is forged in one piece? I hope it doesn't mean the blister pack 
was made in USA and the tools inside were made in China.


At any rate, I agree with the Amazon reviewers who say the helical 
Irwin are better than the straight splined Lisle. To use a Lisle 
extractor on that flare fitting, I would have had to hammer it on and 
then I would have had to hammer it out of the tool.


Now the bleeder is stuck in the control valve, and since the other 
end of the line goes into the control valve ABOVE the bleeder, I 
can't easily cut the line to put the extractor on the nut. Why would 
the control valve bleeder be below the outlet pipe to the spheres, is 
there a good reason to make sure the air goes to the spheres and not 
to the bleeder?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1982 MERCEDES Benz 500SEL BLACK SEDAN - $ 1000 (North Reading MA)

[Larry T]

Yeah, I'm sure ya'll are right.  Those were heavy cars - being a huge 
diesel fan, this might be a good case for a Chevy v8 350 crate 
engine.with maybe 400-500HP? ...  with a GM AT to match..course I'm sure 
crate diesels are available also - did someone mention the Dodge Ram 
diesel in the pickups?.


I guess with enough time and money anything is possible.   I have never 
lived with a 140 so I don't know how they would work with that kind of 
resto-mod - but i guess if I had a choise i'd go for a W108 with a 
suitable diesel...  with the HVAC updated as well.. love those old 
280SELs and 300SELs...  owned 2 280SEs and 1 280S. all were robust cars...


So many choices, so little time  ;-)

Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/15/2014 6:16 PM, clay wrote:

Ima thinkin' that you need at least the 603 if not a 606 to get that much metal 
moving.  The M104 in the boy's w140 is not a speed demon, and I am pretty sure 
a 2.5 liter would struggle.  Also have to bring the transmission along so it 
behaves.

clay


On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Larry T wrote:


Hmmm, I wonder how hard it would be to put a W124 2.5T diesel into a W140?  
You're bound to be able to find both at great prices, right?  I always liked 
the 140 for it's luxuriousness -- feared it for it's complexity (Still do) 
;-)

Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/15/2014 5:26 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Frederick Moir wrote:

Mitch.
I'd expect it to have baggy suspension, and expensive if broken.
Diesel idea is good, though it would be relatively slow.

Not much slower than an SD if you used a 123 wagon engine.
No slower than an SDL if you used a 124 wagon engine.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?

[Larry T]

sounds like a perfectly reasonable mistake.:-)

Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/16/2014 9:03 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
When I was ready to check out and pay for my groceries the cashier 
said, "Strip down, facing me."


Making a mental note so I could complain to my local MP about this 
running amok security crap, I did just as she had instructed.


After the shrieking and hysterical remarks finally subsided, I found 
out that she was referring to how I should position my credit card.


Nonetheless, I've been asked to shop elsewhere in the future.

They need to make their instructions a little clearer for seniors.
Man I hate this getting older stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?

[WILTON]

'Nother goodun.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Mitch Haley" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:03 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?


When I was ready to check out and pay for my groceries the cashier said, 
"Strip down, facing me."


Making a mental note so I could complain to my local MP about this running 
amok security crap, I did just as she had instructed.


After the shrieking and hysterical remarks finally subsided, I found out 
that she was referring to how I should position my credit card.


Nonetheless, I've been asked to shop elsewhere in the future.

They need to make their instructions a little clearer for seniors.
Man I hate this getting older stuff.

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[MBZ] Hendrick, was that you?

[Mitch Haley]

When I was ready to check out and pay for my groceries the cashier said, "Strip 
down, facing me."


Making a mental note so I could complain to my local MP about this running amok 
security crap, I did just as she had instructed.


After the shrieking and hysterical remarks finally subsided, I found out that 
she was referring to how I should position my credit card.


Nonetheless, I've been asked to shop elsewhere in the future.

They need to make their instructions a little clearer for seniors.
Man I hate this getting older stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding bloody Stuck bolt removers

[Dieselhead]

Does the system have to be bleed?


Isn't it more of a pressure release point, allowing the
oil to be captured for reuse?

-- Jim


Yes

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding bloody Stuck bolt removers

[Dan Penoff]

The system is self bleeding.

Dan

> On Jan 16, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> 
> Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>> Does the system have to be bleed?
>> It is my understanding that when the valve is in the neutral position fluid 
>> just circulates.
> 
> I don't know, but if you're going to put a bleeder on the valve, shouldn't 
> the bleeder be the highest outlet?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding bloody Stuck bolt removers

[Mitch Haley]

Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Does the system have to be bleed?
It is my understanding that when the valve is in the neutral position 
fluid just circulates.


I don't know, but if you're going to put a bleeder on the valve, shouldn't the 
bleeder be the highest outlet?


Mitch

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