Re: [MBZ] ?
You need to get to the NSA gift shop. Really. I was at Ft. Meade in the early 90s, and one of the first days I was there we went down to the cafeteria to get some lunch. Now mind you, this was long before Snowden and other such events, so many of the the three letter government agencies were rarely spoken of or even acknowledged publicly. The running joke was always NSA stands for No Such Agency. As we walk out of the cafeteria, lo and behold, there is a flippin' gift shop filled with NSA swag!!! I bought a very discreet T-shirt with the letters NSA and the agency seal below it. What's really funny is that I had a contractor in house a few weeks ago who had done some work for the NSA a few years ago. We spoke briefly about it, but the one thing he said I found funny was, Can you believe they've got a gift shop in that place? Dan we never had this conversation Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I didn't go up on the lectern, just took a picture in front of it staying on the floor. I did try out the chair for the US rep to the Security Council... In retrospect it seems strange I didn't check out the gift shop, I managed to get to the gift shop at the FBI academy a couple years ago. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? Did you go to the lectern and take your shoe off and pound it on the top? THAT would have been funny as hell. You could also stand up and denounce imperialist hegemonists. --R On 3/19/15 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I just finished a class at the UN. Got a pic on the floor of the general Assembly. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Spring pads can and will compress over time. I'm getting ready to replace the pads on the 95 S500, as it sits a bit low in the back based both on visual and measured height. On point to note: MB can't tell you what spring pad is on your car, as they are fit during production based on the height. They can tell you what spring is on it, but you have to visually inspect the pad or shim as they call it by looking at it in place and counting the burls that stick out. The burls are little nubs or pins of rubber molded into the side of the shim and are usually visible by just looking at the shim from below. I believe the number of burls range from one to five. The number of burls correspond to the different shim thicknesses, which your parts supplier can identify when you tell them how many yours has. In my case I was all ready to replace the rear springs, but I'm going to do the shims first and see how that goes. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think the next step is replacing the rear springs and making sure the spring pads are correct. You may have to go to a thicker spring pad. Is all the mounting hardware at the top of the shock absorbers correct? Is there a kit to replace one of the bushings/links to provide a camber adjustment? Dave M. would know the answer there. I think I recall something about the Sportline suspension including such a kit. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
I think the next step is replacing the rear springs and making sure the spring pads are correct. You may have to go to a thicker spring pad. Is all the mounting hardware at the top of the shock absorbers correct? Is there a kit to replace one of the bushings/links to provide a camber adjustment? Dave M. would know the answer there. I think I recall something about the Sportline suspension including such a kit. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back
could be. Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers. You can drop off all manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug in. I suspect it gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage clay more likely, they stand a container on end, doors open, and dump the junk in with an elevator. More stuff shipped per container this way, and no crating charges. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Gerry says: What this list should be doing instead of debating global warmings existence, is to start thinking about workable solutions in case there is such a thing as global warming and its effects are as predicted. We need to come up with a workable solution to get around the Cap and Trade taxes that are coming. Whether human induced climate change exists matters none. The taxes are inevitable. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
Congratulations! Salute! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
A truly statistically insignificant sample clay On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Come on Andrew, do you read any of the stuff you post? Lowest-ever wintertime level since records began in 1979. Wow. 36 years worth of data. Typical low information voter response: OH NO, in 36 years we've NEVER seen such low ice!!! Quick, we've got to impose draconian costs on all Americans (especially the poor and middle class) to drive up their basic energy costs to keep their houses warm, cook food, and drive their cars to work. THAT will work FOR SURE Give me a break ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Andrew wrote: Just shoot the messenger. What can be done? Solutions demand unacceptable political and economic changes. Even if a solution became acceptable, how long would solution implementation need to be in place to stop the current inevitable event? Both shrill voices on each side are in the process of shooting the messenger. Both shrill voices are moot. There is no solution. So we shrill at each other - it is all hollywood and okiebenz. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Big chil indeed.
It sure did make for a year or two without summer in the 19th century. Snow in July and massive crop failures. Part of family history that caused us to move from MA westward when the farm failed. clay On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: From: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Didn't Krakatoa induce a mini ice age in the early middle ages? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:01:58 -0400 To: diese...@pisquared.net; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Big chil indeed. From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Only if we enter an age of extreme volcanism. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:51:56 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nothing we do is going to make much difference, IF it is a matter of oil consumption etc, so long as places like China and India keep on as they are. Sending them truck loads of our money in order to pursuade them not to pollute is not likely to do much for either them or us. Volcanoes dwarf anything man could think of doing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] w115 transmisison
Anybody know which auto trans was installed in a 300D in 1976? I am finding 722.1 722.2 and 722.3 mentioned. Is it important to use the exact 76 trans, or could I use something from an early w123? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Gerry says: What this list should be doing instead of debating global warmings existence, is to start thinking about workable solutions in case there is such a thing as global warming and its effects are as predicted. We need to come up with a workable solution to get around the Cap and Trade taxes that are coming. Whether human induced climate change exists matters none. The taxes are inevitable. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Solution for that is the same as most social problems. Open season on la wyers; no bag limit. Same as proposed in 1981 or so by my friend who ran a grain elevator. IT solves many problems. since most ot the congress and P are la wyers, it would take care of cap and TAX, er I mean Trade also. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Search for cave drawings of daily average temperatures as we speak... Hm 101.. file not found... Imagine that... Back to our regular programming... film at 11:00 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:01 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Geologic timeframes. I would think something like 50k years will provide statistically significant data. As long as there is truly global data collected so local data is correlated to all events so a complete picture is available. clay On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, let alone convinced? is it worth the risk pretending this problem is merely cyclical and will go away in, say, another 36 years? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Come on Andrew, do you read any of the stuff you post? Lowest-ever wintertime level since records began in 1979. Wow. 36 years worth of data. Typical low information voter response: OH NO, in 36 years we've NEVER seen such low ice!!! Quick, we've got to impose draconian costs on all Americans (especially the poor and middle class) to drive up their basic energy costs to keep their houses warm, cook food, and drive their cars to work. THAT will work FOR SURE Give me a break ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Data? Actual science is like: Make a theory Make a null hypothesis that says something of the sort: If my theory is correct, then y condition will occur after x happens. Set up appropriate statistical analysis to show that this condition y is not likely to have happened by chance to a whatever (95%, 99%) probability. Gather data. Crunch numbers. Rinse, repeat. Let other actual scientists also repeat. What we have seen so far from the IPCC theories is that the data are occurring outside the range of predicted results. That is known in actual science as falsifying the theory. Greg And it is all based on faulty computer models using faulty or falsified, or selected data. This is to prove the intended result to themselves and sheeple. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
ATTABOY! Congratulations! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 6:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] The Boy A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Starbucks is in NASCAR now?
All a matter of taste. PNW is into deep dark roasted coffee, Florida likes more latin light roast, NE seems to be happy with medium roast. Midwest is happy with folgers clay On Mar 19, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Youngest son's first Starbucks mocha: Yuck! Is it me, or does this stuff taste burned? Yeah, that's my boy Appreciates a good espresso at his age Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! I can just picture Bubba asking Barista-Babe about racing and the interesting exchange that will follow. - Max where's my espresso? Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
Would have also been great... one day I hope to take you up on the offer. Thank you! On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:57 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I could even buy ya lunch at (cough, cough) Cracker Barrel on I-95 near Wilson (or Selma), NC. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end Jaime, Are you driving back up or flying? If going through SC on '95, how about a quick stop in Charleston so Rich and I can treat you to a cup of coffee or something? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 camber Took it out fora short drive. I think it finally is the suspension the 124 is supposed to be. I am sure Dave M could make it better for a pile o cash, but I think it is very close to factory new now.Cost me $12. After the drive, I measured the ride height again. It has settled down to 16 already. I told #1 daughter to drive it 2 weeks, then measure ride height and report back to me. Once it quits settling in, we will take it to the alignment shop and get it aligned again. It was pretty good before, but now it really corners like a race car. I took it to the adjoining new hoity toity housing development and ran around on their fake brick streets and several cul de sacs. I am pretty sure the right shim is pretty well seated. On one corner the Blizzacks squealed a little @79ºF. If the car was named Ruby, it'd be Ruby on Rails. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Being a conspiracy nut, I am thinking there is a major plan to shuffle people off the planet. We are being crowded into smaller spaces, eating processed foods, gobbling up pharmaceuticals, toting electronics, developing bionics, and today there were articles about the ethical dilemma now that there is a very simple genetic engineering process to allow babies to be tailored. We can build better versions of human to survive in space, all cramped up in tiny closets. clay On Mar 20, 2015, at 4:07 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, (Andrew?) How old is the planet? What this list should be doing instead of debating global warmings existence, is to start thinking about workable solutions in case there is such a thing as global warming and its effects are as predicted. The first thing to do is eliminate the proposed solutions that cannot be done such as as reducing pollution by significantly restricting the use of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels have been the basis of mankinds progress since the beginning of the industrial age about 200 years ago and there are no energy sources that can effectively replace them now. Solar energy is obviously the best hope. If every DIYer on this list put some sort of solar panel on his roof; no matter how small; it would be a start. The longest journey begins with one step. Gerry USE a SPC control chart and do the math correctly. the numbers will tell us how much data we need to bring the control levels into acceptable levels. WHat level do you want? 6 sigma? 4? 2 sigma? Based on what the darwinist science tells us, the earf is millions of years old. so it would probably take hundreds of thousands of years of data to produce a good control chart. Personally, I'd guess if you had 10,000 years data, that would probably suffice. 200 to 300 years data we have is but a blip in time. It is insufficient to establish meaningful control limits. Read Walter Shewhart's book. Curly ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
A truly statistically insignificant sample clay Doesn't matter, so long as it supports our lie, er, a, point! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 20:35:36 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BTW, that reminds me: Granddaughter, who graduated summa cum laude from NC State U in Dec with BS in biotechnology and management, just received notice that she has been accepted in the PhD program at CO State U with a full/complete scholarship and stipend plus possible NSF grant. Not sure 'bout the grant yet. Wow! Attaboy!!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
Congratulations Rich! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 3:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] The Boy A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Data? Actual science is like: Make a theory Make a null hypothesis that says something of the sort: If my theory is correct, then y condition will occur after x happens. Set up appropriate statistical analysis to show that this condition y is not likely to have happened by chance to a whatever (95%, 99%) probability. Gather data. Crunch numbers. Rinse, repeat. Let other actual scientists also repeat. What we have seen so far from the IPCC theories is that the data are occurring outside the range of predicted results. That is known in actual science as falsifying the theory. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 6:19 AM To: Meade Dillon Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, let alone convinced? is it worth the risk pretending this problem is merely cyclical and will go away in, say, another 36 years? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Come on Andrew, do you read any of the stuff you post? Lowest-ever wintertime level since records began in 1979. Wow. 36 years worth of data. Typical low information voter response: OH NO, in 36 years we've NEVER seen such low ice!!! Quick, we've got to impose draconian costs on all Americans (especially the poor and middle class) to drive up their basic energy costs to keep their houses warm, cook food, and drive their cars to work. THAT will work FOR SURE Give me a break ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Very nice! Great price too! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 20, 2015 6:47:02 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Took it out fora short drive. I think it finally is the suspension the 124 is supposed to be. I am sure Dave M could make it better for a pile o cash, but I think it is very close to factory new now.Cost me $12. After the drive, I measured the ride height again. It has settled down to 16 already. I told #1 daughter to drive it 2 weeks, then measure ride height and report back to me. Once it quits settling in, we will take it to the alignment shop and get it aligned again. It was pretty good before, but now it really corners like a race car. I took it to the adjoining new hoity toity housing development and ran around on their fake brick streets and several cul de sacs. I am pretty sure the right shim is pretty well seated. On one corner the Blizzacks squealed a little @79ºF. If the car was named Ruby, it'd be Ruby on Rails. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Geologic timeframes. I would think something like 50k years will provide statistically significant data. As long as there is truly global data collected so local data is correlated to all events so a complete picture is available. clay On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, let alone convinced? is it worth the risk pretending this problem is merely cyclical and will go away in, say, another 36 years? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Come on Andrew, do you read any of the stuff you post? Lowest-ever wintertime level since records began in 1979. Wow. 36 years worth of data. Typical low information voter response: OH NO, in 36 years we've NEVER seen such low ice!!! Quick, we've got to impose draconian costs on all Americans (especially the poor and middle class) to drive up their basic energy costs to keep their houses warm, cook food, and drive their cars to work. THAT will work FOR SURE Give me a break ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dave M.
Is anyone in contact with Dave Mieman (sp?) If so, ask him if 13.3 (338mm) is about the right length for a 124.133 rear spring. (300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
Ha, just what I was thinking when I read that... but like Dan said, the Hampton Inn was actually pretty expensive. And we have budgets too! But I think they blew it at the Miami Beach Hilton for four nights later during the trip. Jaime On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's a great story Dan and Jaime! However, something about Hampton Inn and Maybach just doesn't seem right... sort of like eating caviar on potato chips... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back
could be. Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers. You can drop off all manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug in. I suspect it gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage clay On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: There is some guy around here who begs on freecycle for e-waste all the time, I'm sure he has some backyard smelter thing going on. --R On 3/19/15 1:02 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Salvage the gold --- On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sadly, there would be no value to the garbage inside the cases. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, (Andrew?) How old is the planet? What this list should be doing instead of debating global warmings existence, is to start thinking about workable solutions in case there is such a thing as global warming and its effects are as predicted. The first thing to do is eliminate the proposed solutions that cannot be done such as as reducing pollution by significantly restricting the use of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels have been the basis of mankinds progress since the beginning of the industrial age about 200 years ago and there are no energy sources that can effectively replace them now. Solar energy is obviously the best hope. If every DIYer on this list put some sort of solar panel on his roof; no matter how small; it would be a start. The longest journey begins with one step. Gerry USE a SPC control chart and do the math correctly. the numbers will tell us how much data we need to bring the control levels into acceptable levels. WHat level do you want? 6 sigma? 4? 2 sigma? Based on what the darwinist science tells us, the earf is millions of years old. so it would probably take hundreds of thousands of years of data to produce a good control chart. Personally, I'd guess if you had 10,000 years data, that would probably suffice. 200 to 300 years data we have is but a blip in time. It is insufficient to establish meaningful control limits. Read Walter Shewhart's book. Curly ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back
I saw a vid posted on some tech site yesterday of all that crap in a big hopper going into a shredder, every bit of plastic, metal, and whatever else is in there. They pointed out most of it was printers, which are cheaper to replace than buy ink carts. It probably does get shipped to Africa or China or somewhere for recovery of whatever is useful. Having seen how they do that -- big outdoor piles of burning smoldering smoking stuff -- it is rather horrifying. --R On 3/20/15 7:07 PM, clay wrote: could be. Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers. You can drop off all manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug in. I suspect it gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage clay On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: There is some guy around here who begs on freecycle for e-waste all the time, I'm sure he has some backyard smelter thing going on. --R On 3/19/15 1:02 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Salvage the gold --- On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sadly, there would be no value to the garbage inside the cases. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Big chil indeed.
Tambora blew in 1816 which lead to the loss of family farm. Not krakatoa clay On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 19:12:18 + Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Didn't Krakatoa induce a mini ice age in the early middle ages? Krakatoa blew in August, 1883. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
Congratulations to son and daughter for their hard won accomplishments. Gerry Rich Thomas wrote: A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4311/9346 - Release Date: 03/20/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
I'm all for solar if our legislators didn't prevent us from using it. That's those of us in the Sunshine State, I might add. Dan On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Gerry, Great point. Easy answer: nuclear. Need a faster response? High altitude release of titanium dioxide particles small enough to stay aloft for a meaningful period of time, reflect some sunlight back into space. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 20, 2015 7:07:30 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What this list should be doing instead of debating global warmings existence, is to start thinking about workable solutions in case there is such a thing as global warming and its effects are as predicted. The first thing to do is eliminate the proposed solutions that cannot be done such as as reducing pollution by significantly restricting the use of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels have been the basis of mankinds progress since the beginning of the industrial age about 200 years ago and there are no energy sources that can effectively replace them now. Solar energy is obviously the best hope. If every DIYer on this list put some sort of solar panel on his roof; no matter how small; it would be a start. The longest journey begins with one step. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back
I meant it as pallets. Some of the stuff is broken down, then wrapped on the pallet. CRTs get that treatment when removed from cases, printers go whole, logic and cards dump in giant cardboard box on a pallet. Small junk is tossed in big box with wires. ABS and metal are sent to local scrap yards. On Mar 20, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: could be. Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers. You can drop off all manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug in. I suspect it gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage clay more likely, they stand a container on end, doors open, and dump the junk in with an elevator. More stuff shipped per container this way, and no crating charges. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Gerry wrote: The longest journey begins with one step. Let's get this started. I like your suggestion. I agree with your approach. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back
I thought it was all dolled up based on Gump having manual trans, no fogs, no PS, no auto lock, no AC, no cruise, wind up glass, manual antenna, solid roof, steel wheels, one mirror, mono radio, color match vent clay On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Yea that's pretty much all standard My 115 has none of that, except the fog lights which are part of the headlight assembly anyway. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Gerry, Great point. Easy answer: nuclear. Need a faster response? High altitude release of titanium dioxide particles small enough to stay aloft for a meaningful period of time, reflect some sunlight back into space. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 20, 2015 7:07:30 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What this list should be doing instead of debating global warmings existence, is to start thinking about workable solutions in case there is such a thing as global warming and its effects are as predicted. The first thing to do is eliminate the proposed solutions that cannot be done such as as reducing pollution by significantly restricting the use of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels have been the basis of mankinds progress since the beginning of the industrial age about 200 years ago and there are no energy sources that can effectively replace them now. Solar energy is obviously the best hope. If every DIYer on this list put some sort of solar panel on his roof; no matter how small; it would be a start. The longest journey begins with one step. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
Excellent! You both must be very proud. Congrats to the future grads! Dan On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:55 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Congratulations to son and daughter for their hard won accomplishments. Gerry Rich Thomas wrote: A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4311/9346 - Release Date: 03/20/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
BTW, that reminds me: Granddaughter, who graduated summa cum laude from NC State U in Dec with BS in biotechnology and management, just received notice that she has been accepted in the PhD program at CO State U with a full/complete scholarship and stipend plus possible NSF grant. Not sure 'bout the grant yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Boy ATTABOY! Congratulations! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 6:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] The Boy A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
ATTAGIRL! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 5:36 PM To: WILTON; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Boy BTW, that reminds me: Granddaughter, who graduated summa cum laude from NC State U in Dec with BS in biotechnology and management, just received notice that she has been accepted in the PhD program at CO State U with a full/complete scholarship and stipend plus possible NSF grant. Not sure 'bout the grant yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Boy ATTABOY! Congratulations! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 6:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] The Boy A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/m ailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ma ilman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/ listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
Congratulations to grand daughter for all her hard work and success, and to you for encouraging her. Gerry WILTON wrote: BTW, that reminds me: Granddaughter, who graduated summa cum laude from NC State U in Dec with BS in biotechnology and management, just received notice that she has been accepted in the PhD program at CO State U with a full/complete scholarship and stipend plus possible NSF grant. Not sure 'bout the grant yet. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
Jaime, Are you driving back up or flying? If going through SC on '95, how about a quick stop in Charleston so Rich and I can treat you to a cup of coffee or something? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
I would guess that hundreds, if not thousands, of years worth of data would be necessary to be able to make sense of any significant weather patterns. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, let alone convinced? is it worth the risk pretending this problem is merely cyclical and will go away in, say, another 36 years? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Come on Andrew, do you read any of the stuff you post? Lowest-ever wintertime level since records began in 1979. Wow. 36 years worth of data. Typical low information voter response: OH NO, in 36 years we've NEVER seen such low ice!!! Quick, we've got to impose draconian costs on all Americans (especially the poor and middle class) to drive up their basic energy costs to keep their houses warm, cook food, and drive their cars to work. THAT will work FOR SURE Give me a break ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Here is a very good essay from Michael Crichton on science and pseudo science. It is a short read. I urge everyone on either side of the argument to read it. He makes a lot of sense. http://www.michaelcrichton.net/essay-stateoffear-whypoliticizedscienceisdangerous.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
You could have saved a bundle using either Priceline or Hotwire to book a hotel room. There's app for both of them. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Heh, I paid $260 for a Holiday Inn Express in NYC last night. The room was predictably tiny. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Yeah, but that doesn't mean I have my head in the sand. The writing is on the wall - the climate is changing way faster than it ever did in geological time. These changes are magnified on the poles. I think it would be foolish to just sit back and do nothing to try and slow down the melting of the polar ice caps. You agree? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why would it go away? If we're coming out of an ice age wouldn't we have several hundred more years of warming before we turn the corner? As a geologist don't you study the cycles between ice ages? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ?
I have various CIA swag, including a nice beer mug that gets some significant use --R On 3/20/15 5:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You need to get to the NSA gift shop. Really. I was at Ft. Meade in the early 90s, and one of the first days I was there we went down to the cafeteria to get some lunch. Now mind you, this was long before Snowden and other such events, so many of the the three letter government agencies were rarely spoken of or even acknowledged publicly. The running joke was always NSA stands for No Such Agency. As we walk out of the cafeteria, lo and behold, there is a flippin' gift shop filled with NSA swag!!! I bought a very discreet T-shirt with the letters NSA and the agency seal below it. What's really funny is that I had a contractor in house a few weeks ago who had done some work for the NSA a few years ago. We spoke briefly about it, but the one thing he said I found funny was, Can you believe they've got a gift shop in that place? Dan we never had this conversation Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I didn't go up on the lectern, just took a picture in front of it staying on the floor. I did try out the chair for the US rep to the Security Council... In retrospect it seems strange I didn't check out the gift shop, I managed to get to the gift shop at the FBI academy a couple years ago. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? Did you go to the lectern and take your shoe off and pound it on the top? THAT would have been funny as hell. You could also stand up and denounce imperialist hegemonists. --R On 3/19/15 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I just finished a class at the UN. Got a pic on the floor of the general Assembly. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's a great story Dan and Jaime! However, something about Hampton Inn and Maybach just doesn't seem right... sort of like eating caviar on potato chips... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, let alone convinced? is it worth the risk pretending this problem is merely cyclical and will go away in, say, another 36 years? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Come on Andrew, do you read any of the stuff you post? Lowest-ever wintertime level since records began in 1979. Wow. 36 years worth of data. Typical low information voter response: OH NO, in 36 years we've NEVER seen such low ice!!! Quick, we've got to impose draconian costs on all Americans (especially the poor and middle class) to drive up their basic energy costs to keep their houses warm, cook food, and drive their cars to work. THAT will work FOR SURE Give me a break ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Why would it go away? If we're coming out of an ice age wouldn't we have several hundred more years of warming before we turn the corner? As a geologist don't you study the cycles between ice ages? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Come on Andrew, do you read any of the stuff you post? Lowest-ever wintertime level since records began in 1979. Wow. 36 years worth of data. Typical low information voter response: OH NO, in 36 years we've NEVER seen such low ice!!! Quick, we've got to impose draconian costs on all Americans (especially the poor and middle class) to drive up their basic energy costs to keep their houses warm, cook food, and drive their cars to work. THAT will work FOR SURE Give me a break ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
On July 12, 2011, crew from the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Healy retrieved a canister dropped by parachute from a C-130, which brought supplies for some mid-mission fixes. The ICESCAPE mission, or Impacts of Climate on Ecosystems and Chemistry of the Arctic Pacific Environment, is NASA's two-year shipborne investigation to study how changing conditions in the Arctic affect the ocean's chemistry and ecosystems. The bulk of the research takes place in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas in summer 2010 and 2011. Credit: NASA/Kathryn Hansen On July 12, 2011, crew from the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Healy retrieved a canister dropped by parachute from a C-130, which brought supplies for some mid-mission fixes.The ICESCAPE mission, or Impacts of Climate on Ecosystems and Chemistry of the Arctic Pacific Environment, is NASA's two-year shipborne investigation to study how changing conditions in the Arctic affect the ocean's chemistry and ecosystems. The bulk of the research takes place in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas in summer 2010 and 2011.Credit: NASA/Kathryn Hansen (NASA/Kathryn Hansen) March 19, 2015 Arctic sea ice has reached its lowest-ever wintertime level, a fresh indication that rapidly rising global temperatures are significantly impacting the polar region. The National Snow and Ice Data Center announced http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2015/03/2015-maximum-lowest-on-record/ Thursday that this year's Arctic ice cover hit a peak of 5.61 million square miles at the end of February, an alltime winter low since records began in 1979. Arctic sea ice expands and shrinks on a seasonal basis. Polar ice is typically at its thickest and most expansive in the winter before significant amounts of the Arctic's ice sheets melt away during the spring. That trend is to be expected, scientists say. But what is not typical is how thin Arctic ice has become in recent years during the winter. Temperatures are rising twice as fast in the polar region than the rest of the planet due to climate change, and scientists predict that within decades Arctic ice could completely disappear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
So how many years of data would you like before you're persuaded we have a problem, How old is the planet? USE a SPC control chart and do the math correctly. the numbers will tell us how much data we need to bring the control levels into acceptable levels. WHat level do you want? 6 sigma? 4? 2 sigma? Based on what the darwinist science tells us, the earf is millions of years old. so it would probably take hundreds of thousands of years of data to produce a good control chart. Personally, I'd guess if you had 10,000 years data, that would probably suffice. 200 to 300 years data we have is but a blip in time. It is insufficient to establish meaningful control limits. Read Walter Shewhart's book. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] US Crude oil production sets record - more propaganda
.OIL:U.S. is on track to break 1970 production record -- if crude prices cooperate Published: Friday, March 20, 2015 U.S. daily oil production this year could achieve a record volume not seen since 1970. But the oil price bust unraveling the industry now may keep domestic production figures just under that level for a few more years, depending on how swiftly producers can curb the outflow. The Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration (EIA) said the U.S. hit peak crude output in November 1970, when monthly production averaged 10 million barrels per day. The average output for the year was about 9.6 million barrels per day, the annual record. December 2014 average production is estimated to have been nearly 9.23 million barrels a day. The annual average for 2014 is estimated to be 8.65 million barrels a day. Prior to the price bust, the domestic oil industry was on target to achieving 1970 production volumes this year, but reports of plateauing production in some shale oil fields amid the price collapse are now pointing to a lower overall number. The short answer is no, EIA spokesman Jonathan Cogan said in an email, when asked whether it's likely that 2015 could see a return to 1970 production highs. Peter Maniloff, an energy and environment economics professor at the Colorado School of Mines, said momentum will keep U.S. shale oil production rising until output from new wells drops off sharply over the course of about 18 months. By mid-2015, wells that were drilled in January 2014 will be only a fraction of their former selves, Maniloff said. The fact that we are cutting well drilling now will start to have an effect a year from now. If earlier predictions pan out, then U.S. output would reach or exceed the 1970 annual average high. The shale oil boom has seen output expanding by around 1 million barrels per day on average over the past couple of years. The United States has gone from pumping 5 million barrels a day in 2008 to at least 9.2 million barrels per day at present. As the active rig rate began dropping sharply due to the price crash, many industry watchers anticipated U.S. production growth would continue, but slowing to around 700,000 barrels per day. If true, that suggests the 1970 annual average level could still be reached again this summer, while the November 1970 monthly record would be hit in early 2016. New data are casting doubt on this, however. This week, energy commodities tracking firm Bentek, a division of Platts, reported that oil production from the Bakken and Eagle Ford shales came close to flat-lining last month, rising by a cumulative 19,000 barrels per day, or only 1 percent. Federal energy analysts are predicting production from those two fields could actually fall in April. Rising production in the Permian Basin and Gulf of Mexico will offset anticipated declines from the Eagle Ford and Bakken for months to come. But EIA now says it doesn't believe the difference will be large enough to achieve the 1970 record. EIA now says U.S. domestic crude production will expand to an annual average of 9.35 million barrels per day this year, a figure barely above the December 2014 monthly output level, according to its latest Short-Term Energy Outlook. Annual production for 2016 is forecast to be 9.5 million barrels a day. Where will oil prices land? Analysts widely believe global crude oil prices will recover to at least the $70 range that year. If the new EIA outlooks holds, at that pricing level it's feasible that daily U.S. production volumes could once again achieve highs at or beyond 1970 records, but not until 2017 or possibly further out. Globally, output is also expected to rise, so demand for crude will have to firm up if prices are to recover from the 60 percent drop witnessed yesterday. In a February review energy, analysts at Deloitte said they believe global output from new large oil field projects will expand by 2.6 million to 3.4 million barrels per day, a figure that excludes U.S. shale oil and new output from the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries. These projects are well underway and are unlikely to be halted, even in the current low-price environment, analysts wrote. Natural oil field declines around the world will cut in to this additional supply, but the general consensus is that oil production will expand in 2015 and 2016. Deloitte agrees that total U.S. production will grow, but at less than the average 1 million barrels per day that the U.S. industry has experienced over the past couple of years. The shale oil boom has already led U.S. oil and gas companies to pump more domestic crude than at peak 1980s levels. Monthly production hit 9.1 million barrels per day in January 1986. Bruce Wells, an energy historian at the American Oil and Gas Historical Society, sees close parallels to the drilling boom in the 1980s that ended in about 1986 and the boom-bust cycle the industry finds itself in today. However, he
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
If I recall, the room rate was like $180/night. It's high season down here due to it being Spring Break time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 20, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: That's a great story Dan and Jaime! However, something about Hampton Inn and Maybach just doesn't seem right... sort of like eating caviar on potato chips... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
Heh, I paid $260 for a Holiday Inn Express in NYC last night. The room was predictably tiny. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ?
Culinary Institute of America? http://www.ciachef.edu On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have various CIA swag, including a nice beer mug that gets some significant use --R On 3/20/15 5:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You need to get to the NSA gift shop. Really. I was at Ft. Meade in the early 90s, and one of the first days I was there we went down to the cafeteria to get some lunch. Now mind you, this was long before Snowden and other such events, so many of the the three letter government agencies were rarely spoken of or even acknowledged publicly. The running joke was always NSA stands for No Such Agency. As we walk out of the cafeteria, lo and behold, there is a flippin' gift shop filled with NSA swag!!! I bought a very discreet T-shirt with the letters NSA and the agency seal below it. What's really funny is that I had a contractor in house a few weeks ago who had done some work for the NSA a few years ago. We spoke briefly about it, but the one thing he said I found funny was, Can you believe they've got a gift shop in that place? Dan we never had this conversation Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I didn't go up on the lectern, just took a picture in front of it staying on the floor. I did try out the chair for the US rep to the Security Council... In retrospect it seems strange I didn't check out the gift shop, I managed to get to the gift shop at the FBI academy a couple years ago. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? Did you go to the lectern and take your shoe off and pound it on the top? THAT would have been funny as hell. You could also stand up and denounce imperialist hegemonists. --R On 3/19/15 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I just finished a class at the UN. Got a pic on the floor of the general Assembly. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Another idea: Check with your FLAPS and online for the spring spacers that you can insert between coils without removing the spring / spring pad. Friend at work used those quite successfully on an old Datsun 300Z to correct the same problem. Dealer predicted disaster, wanted to sell him all kinds of new parts including springs, but his cheap solution worked just fine. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
Are you smarter today? --R On 3/20/15 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Heh, I paid $260 for a Holiday Inn Express in NYC last night. The room was predictably tiny. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
I could even buy ya lunch at (cough, cough) Cracker Barrel on I-95 near Wilson (or Selma), NC. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end Jaime, Are you driving back up or flying? If going through SC on '95, how about a quick stop in Charleston so Rich and I can treat you to a cup of coffee or something? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Now this is really brilliant - floating solar panels
Here's an idea I think we can all agree is brilliant as it solves several problems at once. Solar Power Inc. Seeks to Develop Floating Projects in U.S. byJustin Doom http://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AP-42FMk7c4/justin-doom 7:58 AM EDT March 19, 2015 http://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?p%5Burl%5D=http%3A%2F%2Fbloom.bg%2F195lN1yp%5Btitle%5D=Solar%20Power%20Inc.%20Seeks%20to%20Develop%20Floating%20Projects%20in%20U.S. https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbloom.bg%2F195lN1ytext=Solar%20Power%20Inc.%20Seeks%20to%20Develop%20Floating%20Projects%20in%20U.S.via=business http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?title=Solar%20Power%20Inc.%20Seeks%20to%20Develop%20Floating%20Projects%20in%20U.S.url=http%3A%2F%2Fbloom.bg%2F195lN1y http://reddit.com/submit?title=Solar%20Power%20Inc.%20Seeks%20to%20Develop%20Floating%20Projects%20in%20U.S.url=http%3A%2F%2Fbloom.bg%2F195lN1y https://plus.google.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbloom.bg%2F195lN1y ?body=Solar%20Power%20Inc.%20Seeks%20to%20Develop%20Floating%20Projects%20in%20U.S.%0ABy%20Justin%20Doom%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fbloom.bg%2F195lN1y%0ABloombergsubject=Solar%20Power%20Inc.%20Seeks%20to%20Develop%20Floating%20Projects%20in%20U.S. Recommended [image: Solar Eclipse] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/eclipse-tests-european-power-grid-flooded-by-solar-farmsEclipse Tests European Power Grid Flooded by Solar Farms http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/eclipse-tests-european-power-grid-flooded-by-solar-farms http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/look-what-today-s-eclipse-did-to-german-solar-power-outputLook What Today's Eclipse Did to German Solar Power Output http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/look-what-today-s-eclipse-did-to-german-solar-power-output [image: Russian Crude Exports] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/russian-teapots-pose-next-big-threat-to-global-crude-oil-pricesHere's the Next Biggest Threat to Global Crude Oil Prices http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/russian-teapots-pose-next-big-threat-to-global-crude-oil-prices http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-19/obama-orders-40-emissions-cut-by-u-s-agencies-deese Obama Orders 40% Emissions Cut by U.S. Agencies: Deese http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-19/obama-orders-40-emissions-cut-by-u-s-agencies-deese (Bloomberg) -- Solar Power Inc., a renewable-energy developer backed by China’s LDK Solar Co., is joining with Aqua Clean Energy to develop floating solar projects in the U.S. and Mexico. The joint venture would put solar panels on platforms in reservoirs, quarry lakes, irrigation canals and tailing ponds, Shanghai-based Solar Power said in a statement Thursday. The joint venture is considering projects in California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Mexico. In addition to the environmental benefits of clean power, the platforms will reduce water evaporation and slow algae growth, Solar Power said. The two companies have identified more than 50 megawatts of potential projects. “This technology not only generates clean solar power energy, but also serves to conserve water in critically dry regions like the southwestern U.S. and California in particular, which is now experiencing its fourth consecutive year of drought,” Peng Xiaofeng, chairman of SPI, said in the statement. Jacqueline Lilinshtein, a Bloomberg New Energy Finance analyst, said the concept may have a limited market appeal and only a small impact on water conservation. “Unless the technology offers significant savings in capital expenditures or increases output, it will likely remain a niche product,” Lilinshtein said Thursday in an e-mail. “Any water savings will be a drop in a bucket, especially in places such as California, which is enduring one of the worst droughts in its recent history.” California’s reservoirs are less than half full after record-low rain and snowfall. Governor Jerry Brown is expected to unveil emergency legislation Thursday that’s intended to help manage the water shortage. Solar installations in the U.S. this year may reach almost 9 gigawatts, while global demand is expected to rise 23 percent to more than 58 gigawatts, according to data compiled by Bloomberg New Energy Finance. Last year, about 6.3 gigawatts were added in the U.S. To contact the reporter on this story: Justin Doom in New York at jdo...@bloomberg.net https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=jdo...@bloomberg.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Now this is really brilliant - floating solar panels
The problem with that is when you effect the water temperature with solar panels absorbing the sun's energy, you affect climate change. Rick PS for Rich. Did I use affect/effect correctly? (probably not) Also suns would be plural and sun's is possessive, yes? Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MBZ] ?
On the phone for last coupla hours with Time Warner Cable (TWC)/ISP to secure my acct. from scammer in Singapore. 'Finally simply changed SSN last four to a new PIN. Maybe, I can sleep better tonight; going to easy chair in few minutes for nap after restless night. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:09 PM Subject: MBZ] ? 'Has to do with a scammer in Singapore trying to get to my stuff. That's the reason for the ? To see if my e-mail still works. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] ? Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
So if a neighbor yells too loud that your house is on fire you dismiss him as being shrill? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Actually no. As time goes on I'm less and less convinced, especially as the calls get more shrill. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Actually no. As time goes on I'm less and less convinced, especially as the calls get more shrill. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Spec I have seen in the manual is center to fender lip. That is what Dave is measuring too. mine is 14.5 rear. going to 15.5 to 16 looks like if should cure the camber issue. I've seen it in the manual when looking for other things. Now I can't find it when I am looking... Murphy again. The heights in the TDM used to be from the ground to the top of the wheel arch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 20, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody know the spec or the manual section number for the measurement of the body height? I am looking for the measurement from the center of the axle to the wheel arch. Dave M has a picture of 13.5 to 14, on a 500E, but He likes sportline and that is a different measurement. What I have found is a spec that says 30mm, but it does not say 30mm from what to where. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
But think of all of the extraordinary and fantastic things you can do today because of it. 'Don't even hafta call a taxi - just leap to the next destination. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end Heh, I paid $260 for a Holiday Inn Express in NYC last night. The room was predictably tiny. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ?
Exactly. From the Langley campus bookstore. --R On 3/20/15 10:22 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Culinary Institute of America? http://www.ciachef.edu On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have various CIA swag, including a nice beer mug that gets some significant use --R On 3/20/15 5:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You need to get to the NSA gift shop. Really. I was at Ft. Meade in the early 90s, and one of the first days I was there we went down to the cafeteria to get some lunch. Now mind you, this was long before Snowden and other such events, so many of the the three letter government agencies were rarely spoken of or even acknowledged publicly. The running joke was always NSA stands for No Such Agency. As we walk out of the cafeteria, lo and behold, there is a flippin' gift shop filled with NSA swag!!! I bought a very discreet T-shirt with the letters NSA and the agency seal below it. What's really funny is that I had a contractor in house a few weeks ago who had done some work for the NSA a few years ago. We spoke briefly about it, but the one thing he said I found funny was, Can you believe they've got a gift shop in that place? Dan we never had this conversation Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I didn't go up on the lectern, just took a picture in front of it staying on the floor. I did try out the chair for the US rep to the Security Council... In retrospect it seems strange I didn't check out the gift shop, I managed to get to the gift shop at the FBI academy a couple years ago. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? Did you go to the lectern and take your shoe off and pound it on the top? THAT would have been funny as hell. You could also stand up and denounce imperialist hegemonists. --R On 3/19/15 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I just finished a class at the UN. Got a pic on the floor of the general Assembly. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
The heights in the TDM used to be from the ground to the top of the wheel arch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 20, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody know the spec or the manual section number for the measurement of the body height? I am looking for the measurement from the center of the axle to the wheel arch. Dave M has a picture of 13.5 to 14, on a 500E, but He likes sportline and that is a different measurement. What I have found is a spec that says 30mm, but it does not say 30mm from what to where. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
So if a neighbor yells too loud that your house is on fire you dismiss him as being shrill? Not just apples and oranges. more like apricots and rocks comparison. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS, WEATHERSBY FARM
Yep, another one already. Some of you may have seen part (the 2 visitors/strangers) of this before. WEATHERSBY FARM By Wilton Strickland In January of 1944, we moved to the Thad Weathersby Farm in Franklin County, NC, between Spring Hope and Zebulon. The land on this farm was red, hard and rocky. I remember watching Carson and W. B., my seventeen and fifteen-year-old brothers, trying to plow with, as usual, a mule-drawn, walk-behind plow. The ground was so hard, it was very difficult to keep the plow in the ground, and the abundant rocks made the plows bounce around throwing the boys violently up and down and from side to side. Early in the year, Daddy, Carson and W. B. were in the woods cutting wood to be used to cure the year's tobacco crop. They were using a long crosscut saw and an ax to fell trees and cut them into sections for the barn furnaces. Daddy was using the ax when W. B. stepped in front of it and received a severe cut on the leg above his kneecap. Daddy carried W. B. to the house in his arms, and Carson drove them to a doctor. W. B. recovered completely, but he was out of school for several days and used crutches for several weeks. In the yard near the house was a small wooden building used as a shop of sorts. The shop did not have many tools, but I spent a lot of time in the building tinkering, building bird houses, toy boats, etc., from small pieces of scrap lumber and learning to saw with a dull hand saw. In early spring, a nice pile of new, rough-sawed, pine lumber was delivered to the farm to use in building a new tobacco-curing barn. Much of the lumber was 1 X 12 boards. I freely used these boards and the nails provided with them to make three or four long flower boxes for our front porch. I never asked permission to use this lumber. When I had an idea for a project, I just scrounged (took) what I needed from the pile. Neither Daddy nor the landowner ever said a word to me about taking the lumber and nails. Daddy was there with me every day, and the landowner came often. They both knew what I was doing, though we never discussed it. They probably thought the carpentry exercises were good training for an industrious 10-year-old boy. Mama and I used the boxes to raise lots of petunias and other flowers I don't remember. One Saturday afternoon in early summer, Carson, Daddy and I were returning home after grocery shopping in Spring Hope. We came upon two young men in their early twenties, standing by the road trying to hitch a ride. We stopped for them, and they got into the back seat with me. They were thin, dirty unshaven and had no luggage or baggage - no package of any sort - that I remember. They said that they had not had a meal in several days and had been eating green, raw corn from the fields by the road. They told us that they were from New Jersey and just bumming around the country on an adventure. Because tobacco harvest time was just beginning, and labor was in short supply, Daddy made a deal with them to stay with us for the summer and help with the harvest. They had never been on a farm before, but learned quickly, seeming to enjoy all of it, especially when I would let them drive the mules pulling the small tobacco trucks back and forth from the fields to the curing barn. At times, however, they wanted the mules to go too fast for our safety and the animals' good health. Once, when one of them was driving the mule pulling an empty tobacco trunk along the side of the busy, paved highway, and I was in the truck with him, he was making the mule run. Suddenly, the mule bolted onto the pavement in front of an approaching Trailways bus! The bus driver and I stared into each other's terrified eyes as the bus skidded toward us and stopped close enough for me to reach out and touch the front of it. Every day I've had since that day has been a bonus. The visitors and I soon became good friends and were often alone - just the three of us. Almost every time we were alone, one of them would ask me if I spoke German, sometimes pressing me with, Are you sure you don't speak German? Of course, I, a ten-year-old farm boy in eastern North Carolina in 1944, did not speak German. After being assured each time that I did not speak German, they would go into a private lengthy conversation in German. Until a few years ago, I had never told anybody else in the family about these conversations in German and their insistence that I not be able to understand them. They never spoke German around others in the family, and I was too young and naïve to suspect anything other than what they had told us, but I now feel certain that the two young men were, indeed, German. The two visitors were with us for six or eight weeks until Daddy began to suspect that he may have been harboring draft dodgers and asked them to leave. They left our lives as suddenly as they had entered. Meanwhile,
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
A neighbor who is a conspiracy nut, says that there are Government planes flying around spreading aluminum power in the stratosphere to reflect sunlight away, thus reducing global warming. You can see them when you see a contrail that extends from horizon to horizon. The conspiracy part is that the aluminum falls to earth and poisons our food and water supplies, the Government knows this, but doesn't care. To Grant's theory about the magnetic poles changing and the magnetic flux weakening, thus letting more cosmic rays in, I think he's onto something. No one has addresses the HUGE increase in electro-magnetic radiation since cell phones became main stream. All those electro-MAGNETIC waves, coupled with all the WiFi, are destroying the magnetic flux shield that earth naturally has in place! I blame it all on the HUGE number of un-licensed radios in place. I posit that if we out-lawed all un-licensed electro-magnetic radiation, the problem would go away as soon as 80% of the devices were powered down. Only licensed elecrto-magnetic radiators should be allowed. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Need a faster response? High altitude release of titanium dioxide particles small enough to stay aloft for a meaningful period of time, reflect some sunlight back into space. -- Max Dillon -- OK Don, KD5NRO, a licensed radiator of electro-magnetic energy, able to communicate around the world with 10 watts of power! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble
While it's probably illegal to jam it, these are all operating on public unlicensed frequencies which have as their stipulation that they must not cause interference to licensed operations, and must accept any interference that they encounter. The digital codes that they employ are purposefully difficult to clone/intercept, so that will be difficult or very expensive to accomplish, if possible. However, Curt's low tech idea of netting it is the best, IMHO. A: - low tech, simple. Think Occam's razor. B: - the device is not hurt or destroyed, it is now more valuable to you. At the very least, you can sell it on eBay, but I like the idea of replacing the receiver with your own. Also think of the Amazon drones (who just got approval for testing from the FAA) - skeey with prizes. You wouldn't want to harm your prize would you? C: - Jamming, a lot of these are programmed to fly home to the point the flight originated if it looses contact with the controller - if you don't destroy the whole electronic system, it will just fly away. Yes - a net gun is the best solution! On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yabbut then the whole system is fried. Hijacking might be easier with a more powerful control xmtr but you would have to find one that was compatible with the rcvr, there probably aren't that many frequencies and protocols. A jammer would drop it right quick but that might be illegal. --R -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w115 transmisison
W115 will have the tranny with a fluid coupling and four speeds. W123s have a torque converter, but still are four speeds I think. I don't believe they interchange directly, but usually it's possible to retrofit Benz trannys. Worst issue would probably be lack of room in the drive tunnel. That W115 tranny is pretty small. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Big chil indeed.
Andy sez: Well, if Krakatoa blows again all bets are off - until the dust settles.. Forget the big ones. I'd bet Puu O'o has put out more pollution in the past 30 years than all the wood and fossil fuels ever burned. And that is a fairly benign volcano. When the big ones blow, as andrew sez: all bets are off, but they never seem to be as bad an impact as the fearmongers predict. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know? Peter perhaps? On a 124, is there normally a rubber shim below the rear spring? Mine has never had any since I got it. That may be the root of the problem. No, but I know where to find out - the EPC parts diagrams. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS, WEATHERSBY FARM
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 23:28:02 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, another one already. Some of you may have seen part (the 2 visitors/strangers) of this before. Thank you, Wilton. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Big chil indeed.
Well, if Krakatoa blows again all bets are off - until the dust settles.. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:40 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Tambora blew in 1816 which lead to the loss of family farm. Not krakatoa clay On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 19:12:18 + Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Didn't Krakatoa induce a mini ice age in the early middle ages? Krakatoa blew in August, 1883. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
It was great to meet up with Jaime and his associate Andrew and spend a few hours talking MBs. There is some background here worth repeating: My youngest son is not a gear head, but he does love his Mercedes, and for that matter, all things MB and exotic when it comes to cars. He's been in close touch while I actively search for a new car these days, so when Jaime told me he would be in the neighborhood with the Maybach I hatched a scheme. I told Stu I was going to be looking at a potential car purchase in St. Pete where he attends school, and that if he wanted I would pick him up and we could get some dinner. Being the proverbial starving college student, he gladly accepted my offer. I drove over and picked him up that night, telling him the car and its owner were over at the Hampton Inn and we would meet him there. We drove over to the Hampton Inn and walked up to two men standing at the lobby doors. Jaime? I asked, and we exchanged pleasantries. So where is this car? I asked. Right over there, as we walked towards the Maybach. Stu just about soiled himself. It was, and still is, a priceless moment I'll never forget. I'm indebted to Jaime for being gracious enough to let us take a ride in it. Needless to say, Stu was agog, in awe, etc., for the whole evening. When I talked to him the next morning, I asked him how much sleep he had gotten that night. I was so wound up I finally got to sleep around two! That was really great. You gave my boy an experience he'll never forget. I am a candidate for World's Best Dad, no doubt. Thanks again, Jaime! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've been down in Florida since last Monday for work. We did a test drive for work, driving a loop around most of the state: Jacksonville - Daytona Beach (during bike week) - St. Petersburg - Naples - Miami Beach - Cocoa Beach - Jacksonville. Highlights of the trip were visiting folks along the way. Had a great dinner with Dan Penoff and his son Stu, and got to treat them to a ride in a Maybach. Dan and I haven't seen each other since the days of the Rusty Qs and it was great to catch up and share stories. Next up was Miami Beach for four nights, which meant visiting with Gary Hurst. We shared a few meals and drove around quite a bit. Gary in person, for those who haven't met him, is great experience. I always look forward to seeing him. And finally I had dinner with Pierre Hedary and his sister Marie on Tuesday, followed by a visit to his shop on Wednesday with the Germans. They're both gracious hosts and we had a great time. I could hang out there for a week I think. His shop holds many treasures, including a 1967 300SEL, very similar to my car. I'm a bit surprised by my busy social calendar over the trip... its a reminder of what kind of community our hobby can create. Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
I put in new shims the last time the links were replaced, along with the subframe bushings, LCAs and shocks. I could try thicker shims. I've replaced springs before, to no avail. They don't get sprung. they do crack on occasion. Spring pads can and will compress over time. I'm getting ready to replace the pads on the 95 S500, as it sits a bit low in the back based both on visual and measured height. On point to note: MB can't tell you what spring pad is on your car, as they are fit during production based on the height. They can tell you what spring is on it, but you have to visually inspect the pad or shim as they call it by looking at it in place and counting the burls that stick out. The burls are little nubs or pins of rubber molded into the side of the shim and are usually visible by just looking at the shim from below. I believe the number of burls range from one to five. The number of burls correspond to the different shim thicknesses, which your parts supplier can identify when you tell them how many yours has. In my case I was all ready to replace the rear springs, but I'm going to do the shims first and see how that goes. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think the next step is replacing the rear springs and making sure the spring pads are correct. You may have to go to a thicker spring pad. Is all the mounting hardware at the top of the shock absorbers correct? Is there a kit to replace one of the bushings/links to provide a camber adjustment? Dave M. would know the answer there. I think I recall something about the Sportline suspension including such a kit. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
Now, THAT'S a goodun! 'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end It was great to meet up with Jaime and his associate Andrew and spend a few hours talking MBs. There is some background here worth repeating: My youngest son is not a gear head, but he does love his Mercedes, and for that matter, all things MB and exotic when it comes to cars. He's been in close touch while I actively search for a new car these days, so when Jaime told me he would be in the neighborhood with the Maybach I hatched a scheme. I told Stu I was going to be looking at a potential car purchase in St. Pete where he attends school, and that if he wanted I would pick him up and we could get some dinner. Being the proverbial starving college student, he gladly accepted my offer. I drove over and picked him up that night, telling him the car and its owner were over at the Hampton Inn and we would meet him there. We drove over to the Hampton Inn and walked up to two men standing at the lobby doors. Jaime? I asked, and we exchanged pleasantries. So where is this car? I asked. Right over there, as we walked towards the Maybach. Stu just about soiled himself. It was, and still is, a priceless moment I'll never forget. I'm indebted to Jaime for being gracious enough to let us take a ride in it. Needless to say, Stu was agog, in awe, etc., for the whole evening. When I talked to him the next morning, I asked him how much sleep he had gotten that night. I was so wound up I finally got to sleep around two! That was really great. You gave my boy an experience he'll never forget. I am a candidate for World's Best Dad, no doubt. Thanks again, Jaime! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've been down in Florida since last Monday for work. We did a test drive for work, driving a loop around most of the state: Jacksonville - Daytona Beach (during bike week) - St. Petersburg - Naples - Miami Beach - Cocoa Beach - Jacksonville. Highlights of the trip were visiting folks along the way. Had a great dinner with Dan Penoff and his son Stu, and got to treat them to a ride in a Maybach. Dan and I haven't seen each other since the days of the Rusty Qs and it was great to catch up and share stories. Next up was Miami Beach for four nights, which meant visiting with Gary Hurst. We shared a few meals and drove around quite a bit. Gary in person, for those who haven't met him, is great experience. I always look forward to seeing him. And finally I had dinner with Pierre Hedary and his sister Marie on Tuesday, followed by a visit to his shop on Wednesday with the Germans. They're both gracious hosts and we had a great time. I could hang out there for a week I think. His shop holds many treasures, including a 1967 300SEL, very similar to my car. I'm a bit surprised by my busy social calendar over the trip... its a reminder of what kind of community our hobby can create. Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My florida tour has come to an end
Unlikely, we have a corporate deal that usually beats all others. Priceline usually only works if you don't need a specific hotel or can be flexible on dates. I've tried that game before. I wanted this hotel because it was close to the UN. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Anybody know the spec or the manual section number for the measurement of the body height? I am looking for the measurement from the center of the axle to the wheel arch. Dave M has a picture of 13.5 to 14, on a 500E, but He likes sportline and that is a different measurement. What I have found is a spec that says 30mm, but it does not say 30mm from what to where. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Well, I'm going to add some stuff simply because I can't take any more of the bickering...it's making my eyes hurt as I read it. Personally, I think the Earth may be both warming and cooling. Why, the magnetic poles are trying to flip. Now, if you read the science, which according to some on this list is either gospel or hocus pocus. Anyway, as the poles flip the Earth's magnetic fields strengthen and weaken. If you look at the current map of Antarctica, it is experiencing both cooling on one side and warming on the other. Again, if you read the stories, when the magnetic fields weaken, it lets in more of the cosmic radiation which is an efficient source of heating. Now, since the reports indicate that the magnetic fields have weakened a good deal since 1900, could this be causing some warming? And also, causing some cooling? I'm not a physics PHD, so I don't know, but it seems just as plausible as man made global warming. Now comes the question, if it is the poles flipping causing this, how much money can world governments spend to stop it and how can Al Gore claim that he is responsible for the poles flipping? So, I throw this in to provide yet another possible scenario to be debated with no absolute answer in sight as no one was around 750,000 yrs ago. Best Wishes and have a happy and restful weekend, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Here is a nice informational page, includes the part number for the special kit to adjust the camber: http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic4232.html bolt kit (part #210 330 00 18) This kit is meant for 202 and later chassis, but I'll bet it will also work on a 124 chassis. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
I would like a turn at climate change theory, since it seems any crackpot with a PhD can take license to propound any theory that will generate grant money. Premise 1: Earth Magnetic pole shift is now happening. The degree of magnetic North shift has precessed at a more rapid rate than previously recorded. There is now an area of magnetic pole reversal located in the South Atlantic, which is growing in size and intensity. South pole magnetic lines of flux center [which represent the magnetic south pole position] has also shifted by progression. The Earth has experienced polar relocation several times, verified through geological history. Thus, the Earth is preparing to yet again change it's center of rotational axis. The life cycle of planetary movement far exceeds the life cycle of human record keeping, and in most cases, far exceeds the scope of human imagination, and in all cases, exceeds the life cycle of government funding. Premise 2: These changes in Magnetic polar shift cause attendant changes in the lines of magnetic force which surround the earth and act as a shield which deflect energy from the Sun in the form of various frequencies. Without this magnetic shield, the earth would receive the full intensity of Sun energy and the water and gas would boil away. Shifts in Magnetic polar location cause shifts in Magnetic Lines of Force. This shift causes changes in the Magnetic Shield Effect, thus, in the current state of flux, an incremental increase in warming in some locations. Premise 3: The EPA, in both USA and EU, have forced the reduction in visible particulates in the air. Those visible particulates served to blank out to some degree, as cloud cover, the Sun heating effect, thus reduction of particulates has had a direct cause on the increase of global heat rise and consequently, the melting of Polar ice caps and the death of Polar Bear Babies [not true, there are now more Polar Bears than before the current climate change hoopla] Premise 4: Thus, Government is the cause of the current exacerbation of a natural Earth Cycle that can not be attenuated by Social Engineering. In fact, Social Engineering is a direct contributor to the acceleration of the Natural process. Large urban populations, in order to be built require the destruction of forest and medow, replaced by concrete, asphalt, buildings, and a concentration of vehicles and humans. None of which contribute to reduction of the Sun Heat Load, instead, becoming virtual heat sinks that absorb Sun Energy and retain it. Thus the argument is raised that all cities must be burned down [to generate cloud particulate cover] and the populations dispersed to the remaining forests and open spaces with rules in place that only small tribes can gather. The suggestion is made that this Social Engineering is the only action that will save the planet from further destruction prior to the coming Polar Shift, which will, from the geological record, likely cause extinction of all life as presently known.. Respectfully, Grant... Available for speaking tours at my usual rate of $20,000 per event, same as Al Gore... On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's too humane. Make him read all the climate change denyin' and gun lovin' posts on this list. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If he says my house is on fire but I point out its just the smoke from my wood stove am I a house fire denier? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Yep! absolutely! That is a hangin' offense! House Fire Denier! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Now this is really brilliant - floating solar panels
Yes, just like when I fan myself. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The problem with that is when you effect the water temperature with solar panels absorbing the sun's energy, you affect climate change. Rick PS for Rich. Did I use affect/effect correctly? (probably not) Also suns would be plural and sun's is possessive, yes? Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
I may have some of those bolt kits. If you use a base height of 14.5 and then use the MB chart, which in this case, (124.133) shows +30mm, it makes sense. The 14.5 +30mm gives you a ride height of about 15.7 to 16 Based on some posts from other 124 owners, the 15.5 to 16 range seems common for 124 cars. We will see where I end up. THe top shim has 3 nubs. These were replaces a couple years ago when I replaced everything but springs. Shocks seem to have good pressure. Springs are original. they measure 13.3 overall length. I have not found a chart for spring measurements. Here is a nice informational page, includes the part number for the special kit to adjust the camber: http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic4232.htmlhttp://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic4232.html bolt kit (part #210 330 00 18) This kit is meant for 202 and later chassis, but I'll bet it will also work on a 124 chassis. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
Just shoot the messenger. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If he says my house is on fire but I point out its just the smoke from my wood stove am I a house fire denier? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
If he says my house is on fire but I point out its just the smoke from my wood stove am I a house fire denier? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
If he says my house is on fire but I point out its just the smoke from my wood stove am I a house fire denier? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Yep! absolutely! That is a hangin' offense! House Fire Denier! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
That's too humane. Make him read all the climate change denyin' and gun lovin' posts on this list. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If he says my house is on fire but I point out its just the smoke from my wood stove am I a house fire denier? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Yep! absolutely! That is a hangin' offense! House Fire Denier! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Everything I've found in the manual for measuring chassis height calls for special tools (section 40 of the FSM). See post #4 in this thread for some ideas about making your own special tools: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/284337-how-i-adjusted-toe-out-camber-caster-my-w123-300d.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Is this your pride and joy, or a beater, or something in between? If you cannot fix it in what you think is the normal and proper way, you might consider bending the control arm. You say that the lower arm acts like it is stretched. If you arced it a bit, it would shorten the arm. The old Ford twin I beam front suspension on pick up trucks required one to bend the I beam in order to correct alignment issues of this nature. It is a bit of an issue to determine how much to bend it. I know that some alignment mechanics got pretty good at adjusting the Ford trucks. I think they used to chain the truck down and then just jack under the beam to bend it up. You could dismantle the suspension and bend it in a press. RB On 19/03/2015 10:35 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: The rear wheels on my 124 300D have had a camber problem since i got it maybe 9 yrs ago. I replaced the rear subframe bushings, and all the links and bushings a couple years ago. It still has too much camber. tops in, bottoms out. supposedly the camber is not adjustable. All parts were OE or OEM. the obvious cause would be if the lower control arm was stretched, or the top link was too short. I did replace the LCAs also in the attempt to correct the problem. Body height seems right. springs were not sprung, or broken, replaced the rubber spring seats when working on the links. Any ideas how to correct or fix the camber problem? I am out of ideas. Surely someone here has fixed this before. I gave up on it for a while, but it is wearing the inside of the rear tires like a 126 in need of subframe bushings. Before putting tar on it, I want to try again to figure out the geometry and cause of the excess camber. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble
Yabbut then the whole system is fried. Hijacking might be easier with a more powerful control xmtr but you would have to find one that was compatible with the rcvr, there probably aren't that many frequencies and protocols. A jammer would drop it right quick but that might be illegal. --R On 3/20/15 5:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I was thinking that or an EMF generator. Just point and BOOM - it drops out of the sky. Dan On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm really surprised. All the electronic brain power of this group and no one has suggested building a jamming device to cause the control signal to be lost? Seems the most simple and effective mode to take down drones... if you are indeed crafty.. just hack the signal.. run your own controller and make it a new addition to your drone collection... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble
I was thinking that or an EMF generator. Just point and BOOM - it drops out of the sky. Dan On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm really surprised. All the electronic brain power of this group and no one has suggested building a jamming device to cause the control signal to be lost? Seems the most simple and effective mode to take down drones... if you are indeed crafty.. just hack the signal.. run your own controller and make it a new addition to your drone collection... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 camber
Does anyone know? Peter perhaps? On a 124, is there normally a rubber shim below the rear spring? Mine has never had any since I got it. That may be the root of the problem. The top has new ones with 3 nubs on it. Those were new when I replaced everything else. Overkill? I put about 1.25 shim under the rear springs. the camber appears about a half degree positive, rather than 1.5 to 1.7 negative. I believe that is within spec. the fender arch is now 17 above the center of the wheel. so it is about a 2 to 1 multiple from the shim. I'm thinking that 15.5 to 16 is about right. I will let it go a while and see if it settles in, and the measurement decreases. I may need to take out the shims and cut them down some. But the camber is in spec now. it may be overkill, but it is better than it was. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble
Now we are talking death and destruction by stealth... perfect... I thought I could stimulate the economy with the suggestion. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was thinking that or an EMF generator. Just point and BOOM - it drops out of the sky. Dan On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm really surprised. All the electronic brain power of this group and no one has suggested building a jamming device to cause the control signal to be lost? Seems the most simple and effective mode to take down drones... if you are indeed crafty.. just hack the signal.. run your own controller and make it a new addition to your drone collection... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The Boy
A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R Congrats! Well done! Hope he will be driving an MB again soon! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Boy
Yes congrats. A very fine choice. He will only be a few miles from the ChowdahQ. On Mar 20, 2015 6:13 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A former 84 300SD driver, got his first choice residency match today, Brown Univ hospital in Providence, RI, Internal Medicine. This is a Very Big Deal, and a Very Happy Day for proud parents (79 300TD, 84 300SD, 12 ML350BT) and daughter unit (84 300SD). Graduating Georgetown in 2 months, #2 Dr. Thomas in the fam! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
