[MBZ] 1982 Mercedes 240D (W123 Diesel) PHX CL Bueno
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4935800260.html Someone needs this.. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL ad of the weak
The car in die hard was a 126 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We should go look at it just to meet the guy, maybe take a few beers along. --R On 3/23/15 10:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The car's engine turns over and roars to life with one simple twist of the key, only trouble maker is the transmission. There's no fumbling, cranking, pumping the pedal, stalling or waiting for the zombies to come and kill you. Fact: This car would NEVER be featured as a get-away-car in a zombie horror film because it would get you away from whatever is trying to eat, dissolve, melt, vaporize, mate, shoot or kill you. ... All this and more for only $1500... https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4940392746.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL ad of the weak
That could be fun! Looks like he's got at least one other Benz in the background of one of the photos. Price is actually not too bad, too bad it has transmission problems. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We should go look at it just to meet the guy, maybe take a few beers along. --R On 3/23/15 10:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The car's engine turns over and roars to life with one simple twist of the key, only trouble maker is the transmission. There's no fumbling, cranking, pumping the pedal, stalling or waiting for the zombies to come and kill you. Fact: This car would NEVER be featured as a get-away-car in a zombie horror film because it would get you away from whatever is trying to eat, dissolve, melt, vaporize, mate, shoot or kill you. ... All this and more for only $1500... https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4940392746.html ___ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] new Snookmobile
http://jalopnik.com/for-3-985-this-custom-1988-bmw-750il-is-a-wide-load-1692944875 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL ad of the weak
We should go look at it just to meet the guy, maybe take a few beers along. --R On 3/23/15 10:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The car's engine turns over and roars to life with one simple twist of the key, only trouble maker is the transmission. There's no fumbling, cranking, pumping the pedal, stalling or waiting for the zombies to come and kill you. Fact: This car would NEVER be featured as a get-away-car in a zombie horror film because it would get you away from whatever is trying to eat, dissolve, melt, vaporize, mate, shoot or kill you. ... All this and more for only $1500... https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4940392746.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Looks Like Mercedes' Inline-Six Revival Will Come With Lots Of Turbos
http://jalopnik.com/looks-like-mercedes-inline-six-revival-will-come-with-l-1693070677 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL ad of the weak
The car's engine turns over and roars to life with one simple twist of the key, only trouble maker is the transmission. There's no fumbling, cranking, pumping the pedal, stalling or waiting for the zombies to come and kill you. Fact: This car would NEVER be featured as a get-away-car in a zombie horror film because it would get you away from whatever is trying to eat, dissolve, melt, vaporize, mate, shoot or kill you. ... All this and more for only $1500... https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4940392746.html -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] grounding heads up
No idea if this applies to MB but it likely could not hurt. My mechanic son Tom, spent the weekend swapping a transmission for a friend in a 2000 Nissan Maxma. The existing transmission still moved the car but would not go into the higher gears. They had a couple of options. Have the original rebuilt or find a used one to throw into it. They chose the latter and found a used one from a junk yard for a fraction of the price of the rebuild. Tom had his fingers crossed that the transmission would work once it was installed. The yard that they got it from swore it worked fine before it was removed from the previous car but it had also been on their shelf for a long while. He pulled the old transmission on Saturday and had the replacement in and most of the car back together by Saturday at supper time. Sunday, he went back out in the morning to finish it off. Then he got a surprise. The vehicle would crank but not start. He checked a bunch of things but had no success in starting it. No codes came up. He then went online and read some forums that discussed this. The gist of what he found there is that one must sand the mating surfaces of the engine and the transmission to clean the metal and ensure a good ground between the two. He could not easily do this after it was all installed without pulling the transmission again so the did the next best thing and installed a couple of ground wires from the transmission bolts back to the battery ground. That seemed to do the trick as the engine then fired up. He drove it a bit and the transmssion started out a bit questionable, flaring etc, but seemed to get better after he drove it some, so he has given the vehicle back to the owners with instructions to drive it but to try not to abuse it for a bit and see if it improves with time and use. They did put Mobil1 transmission fluid in it. He says he did read the instructions on Mitchell before he started the job and looked at all of the tips they offer but they said nothing about this issue of grounding. He says he will never install another transmission without cleaning the mating surfaces to ensure he does not run into this issue again. He has also suggested to the vehicle owner that it is a good time to sell the Maxima. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT BBQ
We have a Vermont Castings BBQ that we have had for a long while and like despite the fact that it is showing its age. We needed to do some repair on it so a week or so ago, I ordered some parts online. Vermont Castings has changed hands according to their website and they no longer wish to deal with the public. One is supposed to find the local dealer and deal through them. They do have a limited online outlet for some parts but I have checked it a few times and the ones I need are always out of stock. I ordered parts that were aftermarket replacements in order to keep the thing going. Burner tubes and heat plates. The heat plates are fine but different as the originals were ceramic coated steel and the new ones are stainless steel. Apart from that the fit is ok so they will work. We shall see how long they last. The burner tubes are a different story. At first glance they appear to be pretty much identical. However, I could not get them to fit. I would have had to either modify the BBQ housing or the new burner tubes in order to make them work. As luck would have it, I discovered I did not really need them so I will just return the new tubes. The shutter valve that lets air in has screen and the screen had become plugged up with what looks to be fluff from dandelions etc. I used a little wire brush to clean them up and reinstalled the original tubes and they seem to work fine. I had been concerned that the holes in the tubes had become enlarged over time but it does not appear that that is an issue. The holes in the new tubes appeared to be similar size. The burners are now showing decent blue flame so my issue with the quality of the flame before was likely just an issue of the air intakes being plugged up. I need to refill some propane tanks before we can give it a good test and cook something but for now I think I am ok. Frustrating when parts do not fit the way they should. Not sure exactly what the issue is but the tube just would not fit in such a way that the brass feed from the control valve would fit in the end of the tube. The original just slips in like it should. The new ones would have required some modification so if I had to do it I could but I was reluctant to really get into it. I did not want to damage the new tubes so that they could not be returned if they never did work properly. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT BBQ
I also have an old Vermont castings grill. I got it from a co-worker who didn't want to rebuild it again. The venturi tubes (which I think is the same as what you call burner tubes) had rotted out. Sadly the screws which held the tubes to the burner broke in the brass burner and I had no luck getting them out. I ended up getting a new cast iron burner and tubes and we've been using it since I think 2009 or 2010. I got the parts from an online supplier. My local Vermont Castings place had no desire to look up parts for me and was notably un-helpful. I need to pull it apart this year and clean since the flame is getting noticeably yellow. Other than that I really see no reason that I'd ever need to replace it. It looks and operates exactly the same today as it did the day I fixed it. If it does someday fail I'll be looking for another used top quality grill to rebuild. We had a cheap Outback brand before this grill and it was garbage. At camp we've got a $100 Kmart cheapie which is fine since a more expensive grill would probably get stolen but my grill is a million times better. My dad gets a new cheap grill every 3-5 years. I feel like I'm way ahead of him with mine... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:52 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT BBQ We have a Vermont Castings BBQ that we have had for a long while and like despite the fact that it is showing its age. We needed to do some repair on it so a week or so ago, I ordered some parts online. Vermont Castings has changed hands according to their website and they no longer wish to deal with the public. One is supposed to find the local dealer and deal through them. They do have a limited online outlet for some parts but I have checked it a few times and the ones I need are always out of stock. I ordered parts that were aftermarket replacements in order to keep the thing going. Burner tubes and heat plates. The heat plates are fine but different as the originals were ceramic coated steel and the new ones are stainless steel. Apart from that the fit is ok so they will work. We shall see how long they last. The burner tubes are a different story. At first glance they appear to be pretty much identical. However, I could not get them to fit. I would have had to either modify the BBQ housing or the new burner tubes in order to make them work. As luck would have it, I discovered I did not really need them so I will just return the new tubes. The shutter valve that lets air in has screen and the screen had become plugged up with what looks to be fluff from dandelions etc. I used a little wire brush to clean them up and reinstalled the original tubes and they seem to work fine. I had been concerned that the holes in the tubes had become enlarged over time but it does not appear that that is an issue. The holes in the new tubes appeared to be similar size. The burners are now showing decent blue flame so my issue with the quality of the flame before was likely just an issue of the air intakes being plugged up. I need to refill some propane tanks before we can give it a good test and cook something but for now I think I am ok. Frustrating when parts do not fit the way they should. Not sure exactly what the issue is but the tube just would not fit in such a way that the brass feed from the control valve would fit in the end of the tube. The original just slips in like it should. The new ones would have required some modification so if I had to do it I could but I was reluctant to really get into it. I did not want to damage the new tubes so that they could not be returned if they never did work properly. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300cd manny
I have no idea. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:45 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, What kind of love does it need? Manual conversion, so it's had some work history at some time. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1982 Mercedes 300CD http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4944095342.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I have had excellent service from a Kohler faucets with ceramic valves. One is the kitchen faucet that gets constant use, even with our somewhat acid well water. On the other hand I have to rebuild the pricey Delta lavatory faucets every year or two. The guts of those fancy oiled-bronze things are the same as the cheapest Peerless faucets. So I buy seats and springs in bulk (boxes of 50). The secret to getting any longevity from those Delta seats is to use silicone grease, NOT plumber's grease. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
You get what you pay for, and America will only pay the lowest possible price, hence the Walmartization of the USA. You can't buy quality anymore because there is not enough market for it. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is this a good as we can do? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL ad of the weak
The car in die hard was a 126 That was the battery in andrews 123!aka die easy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I just bought a $40 chinee delta knockoff at el mercado de wall/ gato merde It works ok, but not thrilling. It looks exactly the same as a the chinee ones sold on fleaby for $15. I didn't have time to wait, as the faucet project came up a couple days before we needed to leave. I too am getting to decrepit to work under da sink. A couple of couch cushions helped a lot. Installation was easy , but getting the old one out was a pain. All parts are still available for Deltas here in the lower 48. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I've taken to buying commercial grade faucets from www.faucetdepot.com instead of the junk in the retail stores. So far, they've worked out fine. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:14:02 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It seems like it is becoming next to impossible to find decent plumbing stuff. We have been pleased with the Moen faucets we bought for our remodel. The utility sink faucet for the laundry came from amazon.com; the other ones came from Lowes. The kitchen faucet is a Danze that came as a special deal through our local Do It Best hardware store. I have seen a lot of chrome plated plastic junk and have run away from that except for a two-handle bathtub set we bought at Lowes. They had nothing that was all metal and we needed it quickly; otherwise, I would have bought something online or at a professional plumbing supply place. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT faucets
It seems like it is becoming next to impossible to find decent plumbing stuff. We have a Delta faucet on our kitchen sink that is not terribly old but is making my good wife unhappy because it is corroding at bit and losing some of the chrome plating. It also leaks around the swivel when it is used for just cold water. That might be fixed with new O rings but the damage to the finish is such that she does not like the look of it. We decided a while ago to get a new faucet. We bought a Kohler unit as they seem to be good quality - or at least they once were. Saturday morning I decided to install the thing. Unfortunately no one wants to do real plumbing anymore so these things all come with flex hoses etc. I prefer the old style where one hooks them up with copper. (although I did our bath remodel on the 2nd floor with mostly PEX). I am getting a bit old, stiff, and too heavy for the work inside kitchen cabinets on the floor but I did manage to change the plumbing lines so that the flex hoses would connect to the existing copper. However, this was one of those faucets with the pull out spray unit in the main spout. The flex hose goes down into the cupboard in a big loop and back up to the bottom of the faucet unit and has a weight on the loop to pull the flex hose back into the spout. Unfortunately, the loop fell right into the area where my existing copper plumbing is with gate valves for shutoff etc. The weight banged on the pipes and got stuck sometimes when the spray unit was pulled out. Not a good thing. We looked it over and I told my wife that I could make it work but it was going to take longer as I was going to have to re-plumb the whole works under the sink and move the feed lines out from the middle to the outer edges of the cabinet in order to leave the middle clear for the spray hose. She looked at the installed faucet and decided she really did not care for it and preferred just to remove it and get something different. This was about 4 PM on Saturday afternoon. We hopped in the car and ran to a couple of stores to see if we could quickly find a different faucet to swap in while the plumbing was apart. No luck at all. So much of the stuff offered appears to be junk intended to last only a short while. The taps weigh next to nothing and have a cheap appearance. HD had one unit on display that might have been OK but then had none in stock. The 2nd store we went to had nothing we would bring home. We were going to dinner with friends Saturday evening so I had to leave it as it was at that point but after we returned home later in the evening, I pulled the new faucet back out and put it back in the box. No harm done to it that I can see. It never even had water run through it. Sunday morning, I re-installed the old faucet and we were back up and running by lunch time but we are still on the lookout for a decent replacement faucet set. I needed to get it working as I had to shutoff the lines that feed the washer in the basement as they are on the same lines that feed the kitchen. I pulled the hoses from the washer and drained the piping to the kitchen via the valves for the washer so that I could solder in the cupboard in the kitchen. My wife wanted to use the washer so I needed to get the kitchen put back together. I was also going to get only a sandwich for Sunday dinner if I did not get the kitchen functional again. My wife was looking online to see what she could find and noted that Delta seems to have almost disappeared. She saw a Grohe that looked like it might be ok but we would likely have to order it online and hope it looked good up close. RB who remembers the old days when stuff was well made in North America and one could even get parts and fix things instead of replacing them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I think Grohe is the best. There is a HansGrohe brand too, I am not quite sure if they are the same or some difference or what. I have bought Grohe stuff in the past, and have new bath sink faucets and shower thingies which are very solid, all cast brass, very well machined, ceramic valves, work smoothly. German, but might be of the chinee side of the family. In any case, order from build.com if you can there. I have bought almost all my new kitchen and bathroom stuff from them and they have been awesome. I have that same problem with the pull-out faucet sprayers, if I get annoyed enough I will put a box around the hoses and weights. --R On 3/23/15 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: It seems like it is becoming next to impossible to find decent plumbing stuff. We have a Delta faucet on our kitchen sink that is not terribly old but is making my good wife unhappy because it is corroding at bit and losing some of the chrome plating. It also leaks around the swivel when it is used for just cold water. That might be fixed with new O rings but the damage to the finish is such that she does not like the look of it. We decided a while ago to get a new faucet. We bought a Kohler unit as they seem to be good quality - or at least they once were. Saturday morning I decided to install the thing. Unfortunately no one wants to do real plumbing anymore so these things all come with flex hoses etc. I prefer the old style where one hooks them up with copper. (although I did our bath remodel on the 2nd floor with mostly PEX). I am getting a bit old, stiff, and too heavy for the work inside kitchen cabinets on the floor but I did manage to change the plumbing lines so that the flex hoses would connect to the existing copper. However, this was one of those faucets with the pull out spray unit in the main spout. The flex hose goes down into the cupboard in a big loop and back up to the bottom of the faucet unit and has a weight on the loop to pull the flex hose back into the spout. Unfortunately, the loop fell right into the area where my existing copper plumbing is with gate valves for shutoff etc. The weight banged on the pipes and got stuck sometimes when the spray unit was pulled out. Not a good thing. We looked it over and I told my wife that I could make it work but it was going to take longer as I was going to have to re-plumb the whole works under the sink and move the feed lines out from the middle to the outer edges of the cabinet in order to leave the middle clear for the spray hose. She looked at the installed faucet and decided she really did not care for it and preferred just to remove it and get something different. This was about 4 PM on Saturday afternoon. We hopped in the car and ran to a couple of stores to see if we could quickly find a different faucet to swap in while the plumbing was apart. No luck at all. So much of the stuff offered appears to be junk intended to last only a short while. The taps weigh next to nothing and have a cheap appearance. HD had one unit on display that might have been OK but then had none in stock. The 2nd store we went to had nothing we would bring home. We were going to dinner with friends Saturday evening so I had to leave it as it was at that point but after we returned home later in the evening, I pulled the new faucet back out and put it back in the box. No harm done to it that I can see. It never even had water run through it. Sunday morning, I re-installed the old faucet and we were back up and running by lunch time but we are still on the lookout for a decent replacement faucet set. I needed to get it working as I had to shutoff the lines that feed the washer in the basement as they are on the same lines that feed the kitchen. I pulled the hoses from the washer and drained the piping to the kitchen via the valves for the washer so that I could solder in the cupboard in the kitchen. My wife wanted to use the washer so I needed to get the kitchen put back together. I was also going to get only a sandwich for Sunday dinner if I did not get the kitchen functional again. My wife was looking online to see what she could find and noted that Delta seems to have almost disappeared. She saw a Grohe that looked like it might be ok but we would likely have to order it online and hope it looked good up close. RB who remembers the old days when stuff was well made in North America and one could even get parts and fix things instead of replacing them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] OT BBQ
I think mine must be a newer but not better model. It has 3 stainless steel tubes that run front to back. The venturi is built into the front end of the tube. They each attach to the front wall of the burner box with a small stainless bolt threaded into an insert attached to the wall and protrude through. The brass feeds from the valves just protrude into the hole in the end of each tube. No cast iron in sight and no physical attachment. The inserts were seized and I twisted them out of the metal getting the burner tubes loose. I had to use a steel strap as a repair patch but such is life. The BBQ box is deteriorating somewhat. Should be good for another few years. RB On 23/03/2015 11:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I also have an old Vermont castings grill. I got it from a co-worker who didn't want to rebuild it again. The venturi tubes (which I think is the same as what you call burner tubes) had rotted out. Sadly the screws which held the tubes to the burner broke in the brass burner and I had no luck getting them out. I ended up getting a new cast iron burner and tubes and we've been using it since I think 2009 or 2010. I got the parts from an online supplier. My local Vermont Castings place had no desire to look up parts for me and was notably un-helpful. I need to pull it apart this year and clean since the flame is getting noticeably yellow. Other than that I really see no reason that I'd ever need to replace it. It looks and operates exactly the same today as it did the day I fixed it. If it does someday fail I'll be looking for another used top quality grill to rebuild. We had a cheap Outback brand before this grill and it was garbage. At camp we've got a $100 Kmart cheapie which is fine since a more expensive grill would probably get stolen but my grill is a million times better. My dad gets a new cheap grill every 3-5 years. I feel like I'm way ahead of him with mine... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:52 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT BBQ We have a Vermont Castings BBQ that we have had for a long while and like despite the fact that it is showing its age. We needed to do some repair on it so a week or so ago, I ordered some parts online. Vermont Castings has changed hands according to their website and they no longer wish to deal with the public. One is supposed to find the local dealer and deal through them. They do have a limited online outlet for some parts but I have checked it a few times and the ones I need are always out of stock. I ordered parts that were aftermarket replacements in order to keep the thing going. Burner tubes and heat plates. The heat plates are fine but different as the originals were ceramic coated steel and the new ones are stainless steel. Apart from that the fit is ok so they will work. We shall see how long they last. The burner tubes are a different story. At first glance they appear to be pretty much identical. However, I could not get them to fit. I would have had to either modify the BBQ housing or the new burner tubes in order to make them work. As luck would have it, I discovered I did not really need them so I will just return the new tubes. The shutter valve that lets air in has screen and the screen had become plugged up with what looks to be fluff from dandelions etc. I used a little wire brush to clean them up and reinstalled the original tubes and they seem to work fine. I had been concerned that the holes in the tubes had become enlarged over time but it does not appear that that is an issue. The holes in the new tubes appeared to be similar size. The burners are now showing decent blue flame so my issue with the quality of the flame before was likely just an issue of the air intakes being plugged up. I need to refill some propane tanks before we can give it a good test and cook something but for now I think I am ok. Frustrating when parts do not fit the way they should. Not sure exactly what the issue is but the tube just would not fit in such a way that the brass feed from the control valve would fit in the end of the tube. The original just slips in like it should. The new ones would have required some modification so if I had to do it I could but I was reluctant to really get into it. I did not want to damage the new tubes so that they could not be returned if they never did work properly. RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile
Actually I was at a gas station and now I'm at Taco Bell. :) Donald H. Snook On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:09 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: And texting while driving at 80 mph? What kinda evidence woulda call this? ;) Please have a safe trip and enjoy the new car. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile Actually, I'm currently driving the new Snookmobile. I'm in between Russelville, AR and Fort Smith. Cruise it set at 80 mph. Last fill up showed 25.1 MPG for trip so far Donald H. Snook On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://jalopnik.com/for-3-985-this-custom-1988-bmw-750il-is-a-wide-load-1692944875 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT BBQ
Is the box on yours steel? Mine appears to be heavy cast aluminum. I can't see any degradation on it at all. Side shelves are also aluminum as is the heavy base. I think the uprights are steel but they might be plastic with steel rods through them, hard to tell without ruining the paint. Should last a long long time. The guy I got it from got it used so we have no real idea how old it is. He replaced it with a $600 Weber. Used that for a year and asked for this one back. I just smiled. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT BBQ I think mine must be a newer but not better model. It has 3 stainless steel tubes that run front to back. The venturi is built into the front end of the tube. They each attach to the front wall of the burner box with a small stainless bolt threaded into an insert attached to the wall and protrude through. The brass feeds from the valves just protrude into the hole in the end of each tube. No cast iron in sight and no physical attachment. The inserts were seized and I twisted them out of the metal getting the burner tubes loose. I had to use a steel strap as a repair patch but such is life. The BBQ box is deteriorating somewhat. Should be good for another few years. RB On 23/03/2015 11:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I also have an old Vermont castings grill. I got it from a co-worker who didn't want to rebuild it again. The venturi tubes (which I think is the same as what you call burner tubes) had rotted out. Sadly the screws which held the tubes to the burner broke in the brass burner and I had no luck getting them out. I ended up getting a new cast iron burner and tubes and we've been using it since I think 2009 or 2010. I got the parts from an online supplier. My local Vermont Castings place had no desire to look up parts for me and was notably un-helpful. I need to pull it apart this year and clean since the flame is getting noticeably yellow. Other than that I really see no reason that I'd ever need to replace it. It looks and operates exactly the same today as it did the day I fixed it. If it does someday fail I'll be looking for another used top quality grill to rebuild. We had a cheap Outback brand before this grill and it was garbage. At camp we've got a $100 Kmart cheapie which is fine since a more expensive grill would probably get stolen but my grill is a million times better. My dad gets a new cheap grill every 3-5 years. I feel like I'm way ahead of him with mine... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:52 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT BBQ We have a Vermont Castings BBQ that we have had for a long while and like despite the fact that it is showing its age. We needed to do some repair on it so a week or so ago, I ordered some parts online. Vermont Castings has changed hands according to their website and they no longer wish to deal with the public. One is supposed to find the local dealer and deal through them. They do have a limited online outlet for some parts but I have checked it a few times and the ones I need are always out of stock. I ordered parts that were aftermarket replacements in order to keep the thing going. Burner tubes and heat plates. The heat plates are fine but different as the originals were ceramic coated steel and the new ones are stainless steel. Apart from that the fit is ok so they will work. We shall see how long they last. The burner tubes are a different story. At first glance they appear to be pretty much identical. However, I could not get them to fit. I would have had to either modify the BBQ housing or the new burner tubes in order to make them work. As luck would have it, I discovered I did not really need them so I will just return the new tubes. The shutter valve that lets air in has screen and the screen had become plugged up with what looks to be fluff from dandelions etc. I used a little wire brush to clean them up and reinstalled the original tubes and they seem to work fine. I had been concerned that the holes in the tubes had become enlarged over time but it does not appear that that is an issue. The holes in the new tubes appeared to be similar size. The burners are now showing decent blue flame so my issue with the quality of the flame before was likely just an issue of the air intakes being plugged up. I need to refill some propane tanks before we can give it a good test and cook something but for now I think I am ok. Frustrating when parts do not fit the way they should. Not sure exactly what the issue is but the tube just would not fit in such a way that the brass feed from the control valve would fit in the end of the tube. The original just
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Price-Pfister, or Pfister, worked very well for me several years ago when I replaced faucets on a 1905 enameled cast iron sink with a modern mixer faucet. Unit is very good quality and looks great. 'Think I got it at fauucetdirect.com Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets I've taken to buying commercial grade faucets from www.faucetdepot.com instead of the junk in the retail stores. So far, they've worked out fine. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile
And texting while driving at 80 mph? What kinda evidence woulda call this? ;) Please have a safe trip and enjoy the new car. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile Actually, I'm currently driving the new Snookmobile. I'm in between Russelville, AR and Fort Smith. Cruise it set at 80 mph. Last fill up showed 25.1 MPG for trip so far Donald H. Snook On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://jalopnik.com/for-3-985-this-custom-1988-bmw-750il-is-a-wide-load-1692944875 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT BBQ
Yes, the box is steel. There is a big oval hole in the bottom with a pan that slips into grooves from the back that is aluminum. I guess its job is to catch drippings etc. It is tapered to one end and at the low end there is another smaller metal tray that hangs under a hole in the bigger one to catch the drips. The box was enameled steel for the most part but has started to wear away in spots. The grills are ceramic coated cast iron. The lid is heavy ceramic coated and blue. The end pieces of it may be cast iron as they are solid - also coated but shiny and black - and the lid is very heavy. No cast aluminum anywhere. RB On 23/03/2015 2:21 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Is the box on yours steel? Mine appears to be heavy cast aluminum. I can't see any degradation on it at all. Side shelves are also aluminum as is the heavy base. I think the uprights are steel but they might be plastic with steel rods through them, hard to tell without ruining the paint. Should last a long long time. The guy I got it from got it used so we have no real idea how old it is. He replaced it with a $600 Weber. Used that for a year and asked for this one back. I just smiled. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT BBQ I think mine must be a newer but not better model. It has 3 stainless steel tubes that run front to back. The venturi is built into the front end of the tube. They each attach to the front wall of the burner box with a small stainless bolt threaded into an insert attached to the wall and protrude through. The brass feeds from the valves just protrude into the hole in the end of each tube. No cast iron in sight and no physical attachment. The inserts were seized and I twisted them out of the metal getting the burner tubes loose. I had to use a steel strap as a repair patch but such is life. The BBQ box is deteriorating somewhat. Should be good for another few years. RB On 23/03/2015 11:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I also have an old Vermont castings grill. I got it from a co-worker who didn't want to rebuild it again. The venturi tubes (which I think is the same as what you call burner tubes) had rotted out. Sadly the screws which held the tubes to the burner broke in the brass burner and I had no luck getting them out. I ended up getting a new cast iron burner and tubes and we've been using it since I think 2009 or 2010. I got the parts from an online supplier. My local Vermont Castings place had no desire to look up parts for me and was notably un-helpful. I need to pull it apart this year and clean since the flame is getting noticeably yellow. Other than that I really see no reason that I'd ever need to replace it. It looks and operates exactly the same today as it did the day I fixed it. If it does someday fail I'll be looking for another used top quality grill to rebuild. We had a cheap Outback brand before this grill and it was garbage. At camp we've got a $100 Kmart cheapie which is fine since a more expensive grill would probably get stolen but my grill is a million times better. My dad gets a new cheap grill every 3-5 years. I feel like I'm way ahead of him with mine... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:52 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT BBQ We have a Vermont Castings BBQ that we have had for a long while and like despite the fact that it is showing its age. We needed to do some repair on it so a week or so ago, I ordered some parts online. Vermont Castings has changed hands according to their website and they no longer wish to deal with the public. One is supposed to find the local dealer and deal through them. They do have a limited online outlet for some parts but I have checked it a few times and the ones I need are always out of stock. I ordered parts that were aftermarket replacements in order to keep the thing going. Burner tubes and heat plates. The heat plates are fine but different as the originals were ceramic coated steel and the new ones are stainless steel. Apart from that the fit is ok so they will work. We shall see how long they last. The burner tubes are a different story. At first glance they appear to be pretty much identical. However, I could not get them to fit. I would have had to either modify the BBQ housing or the new burner tubes in order to make them work. As luck would have it, I discovered I did not really need them so I will just return the new tubes. The shutter valve that lets air in has screen and the screen had become plugged up with what looks to be fluff from dandelions etc. I used a little wire brush to clean them up and reinstalled the original tubes and they seem to work fine. I had been concerned that the holes in the
Re: [MBZ] 300cd manny
Kaleb, What kind of love does it need? Manual conversion, so it's had some work history at some time. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1982 Mercedes 300CD http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4944095342.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Greenpeace founder is a skeptic too!
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 21:07:19 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Da GMann Sez: As something of a student of mechanical history, I came across a medical device which was sold at one time to the general public with incredible claims of medical cure and success. The people who sold this device made a name for themselves because of their success in selling this device. What is the name of the company who made it? I didn't see that anywhere in the article. Based on the age, was it E. I. DuPont? . They're still in use. Enter: history of medicine rectal insuflators in Bing for a number of websites. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I don't think you expect too much, properly applied chrome should last decades, half centuries even. I've got a Coleman lantern from 1929 that still has good nickel... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets On 23/03/2015 4:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I just bought a $40 chinee delta knockoff at el mercado de wall/ gato merde It works ok, but not thrilling. It looks exactly the same as a the chinee ones sold on fleaby for $15. I didn't have time to wait, as the faucet project came up a couple days before we needed to leave. I too am getting to decrepit to work under da sink. A couple of couch cushions helped a lot. Installation was easy , but getting the old one out was a pain. All parts are still available for Deltas here in the lower 48. ___ I did not use couch cushions. I had some old towels folded up to lay on. Hard part is I am not so flexible anymore. I took both doors off as they have the adjustable European style hinges and it was easy. No centre divider so wide open with the doors off. However, once in there and with a torchin one hand and a piece of hot copper pipe in the other hand held by vice grips it is difficult to wiggle out to a sitting position without touching things. Thankfully I have a torch with the rubber hose back to the tank and an igniter so it starts when I squeeze the trigger and stops when I let off on the trigger. I think Delta advertised that the finish was guaranteed for life so I should look into it and see if they will replace the one that is corroding and flaking. I don't think it is 10 years old. I guess I expect too much. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
The separate hot/cold faucets I replaced with the Pfister mixer faucet a few years ago lasted well over 100 years. 'Replaced 'em 'cause I wanted a faucet that looks better and mixes hot/cold, though I seldom turn the hot on. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets On 23/03/2015 12:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: This posting serves to remind me of one thing that really fails to impress me with our civilization in particular. We are now surrounded by high tech electrical devices. Our cars will start without taking the key out of our pockets, our wrist watch has greater computing power than the first rocket that guided a crew to land on the moon, yet we have barely evolved past the inside toilet in quality and tech when it comes to home materials like plumbing and construction. Plumbing is a billion dollar industry, yet the water valves in my great grandmothers home that are 140 years old are of better quality than what I can buy today, and are still working. For example. Is this a good as we can do? The reverse is true. We are going backward. Electronics are throw away as there is a newer, better, cheaper one waiting to be sold to you. The people that make hardware and tools and appliances want in on this so they make the stuff fail and refuse to make parts readily available so we have little choice but to buy the next version of the junk they peddle. The faucets on the sink at home when I was a kid lasted until the sink wore out. They likely could have been re-used but we put new ones in with the new sink. I have since changed those new ones out for a new set and that one is causing trouble. The first were good for better than 30 years and the chrome was good when we tossed them. The two sets since have not lasted 10 years each and they are only used from May through October as the place is closed down for the winter. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
All the faucets in our house are mixers and I don't like any of them. The ones I especially don't like are in the bathroom because they're the kind you have to pull out. The one in the bathroom sink is the worst, pull not hard enough and nothing happens, pull too hard and water BLASTS out and your crotch gets drenched. You end up playing a wiggle wiggle wiggle game to get enough but not too much. When we finally decide to de-pink our bathroom completely the pink vanity will go along with the stupid mixer faucet. Wilton I think you got sold a bill of goods... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets The separate hot/cold faucets I replaced with the Pfister mixer faucet a few years ago lasted well over 100 years. 'Replaced 'em 'cause I wanted a faucet that looks better and mixes hot/cold, though I seldom turn the hot on. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets On 23/03/2015 12:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: This posting serves to remind me of one thing that really fails to impress me with our civilization in particular. We are now surrounded by high tech electrical devices. Our cars will start without taking the key out of our pockets, our wrist watch has greater computing power than the first rocket that guided a crew to land on the moon, yet we have barely evolved past the inside toilet in quality and tech when it comes to home materials like plumbing and construction. Plumbing is a billion dollar industry, yet the water valves in my great grandmothers home that are 140 years old are of better quality than what I can buy today, and are still working. For example. Is this a good as we can do? The reverse is true. We are going backward. Electronics are throw away as there is a newer, better, cheaper one waiting to be sold to you. The people that make hardware and tools and appliances want in on this so they make the stuff fail and refuse to make parts readily available so we have little choice but to buy the next version of the junk they peddle. The faucets on the sink at home when I was a kid lasted until the sink wore out. They likely could have been re-used but we put new ones in with the new sink. I have since changed those new ones out for a new set and that one is causing trouble. The first were good for better than 30 years and the chrome was good when we tossed them. The two sets since have not lasted 10 years each and they are only used from May through October as the place is closed down for the winter. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
On 23/03/2015 4:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I just bought a $40 chinee delta knockoff at el mercado de wall/ gato merde It works ok, but not thrilling. It looks exactly the same as a the chinee ones sold on fleaby for $15. I didn't have time to wait, as the faucet project came up a couple days before we needed to leave. I too am getting to decrepit to work under da sink. A couple of couch cushions helped a lot. Installation was easy , but getting the old one out was a pain. All parts are still available for Deltas here in the lower 48. ___ I did not use couch cushions. I had some old towels folded up to lay on. Hard part is I am not so flexible anymore. I took both doors off as they have the adjustable European style hinges and it was easy. No centre divider so wide open with the doors off. However, once in there and with a torchin one hand and a piece of hot copper pipe in the other hand held by vice grips it is difficult to wiggle out to a sitting position without touching things. Thankfully I have a torch with the rubber hose back to the tank and an igniter so it starts when I squeeze the trigger and stops when I let off on the trigger. I think Delta advertised that the finish was guaranteed for life so I should look into it and see if they will replace the one that is corroding and flaking. I don't think it is 10 years old. I guess I expect too much. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Yes, it should last longer. It should not flake off in spots and should not corrode. We have pretty decent water in Winnipeg and I think it should stand up better than it does. RB On 23/03/2015 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I don't think you expect too much, properly applied chrome should last decades, half centuries even. I've got a Coleman lantern from 1929 that still has good nickel... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets On 23/03/2015 4:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I just bought a $40 chinee delta knockoff at el mercado de wall/ gato merde It works ok, but not thrilling. It looks exactly the same as a the chinee ones sold on fleaby for $15. I didn't have time to wait, as the faucet project came up a couple days before we needed to leave. I too am getting to decrepit to work under da sink. A couple of couch cushions helped a lot. Installation was easy , but getting the old one out was a pain. All parts are still available for Deltas here in the lower 48. ___ I did not use couch cushions. I had some old towels folded up to lay on. Hard part is I am not so flexible anymore. I took both doors off as they have the adjustable European style hinges and it was easy. No centre divider so wide open with the doors off. However, once in there and with a torchin one hand and a piece of hot copper pipe in the other hand held by vice grips it is difficult to wiggle out to a sitting position without touching things. Thankfully I have a torch with the rubber hose back to the tank and an igniter so it starts when I squeeze the trigger and stops when I let off on the trigger. I think Delta advertised that the finish was guaranteed for life so I should look into it and see if they will replace the one that is corroding and flaking. I don't think it is 10 years old. I guess I expect too much. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Don't buy plumbing stuff at the box stores, it's invariably the worst possible grade available. Go to a standard pluming supply company, the one your local plumbers use. Slightly higher prices, but vastly better stuff. I need to do this myself, I grabbed a Delta from the box store last year because the old one was leaking into the basement and it's a pain to get to the plumber's supply from work (they close at 5). I'm sorry I did, it's flimsy and the temperature control is pretty much full hot or full cold, the range where there is mixing is about 10% of the travel of the tap. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Old Mac on the Interweb
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/12228/mac-plus-modern-web/ MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old Mac on the Interweb
...was surprised when he whipped up a filtering proxy solution in about 20 minutes using Python, Requests http://www.python-requests.org/en/latest/, Flask http://flask.pocoo.org/, and Beautiful Soup http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/. That is pretty much the definition of insanity, but I like it. --R On 3/23/15 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/12228/mac-plus-modern-web/ MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes 240D (W123 Diesel) PHX CL Bueno
Bob Rentfro wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4935800260.html Someone needs this.. Bob R ___ It has five cylinders? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I had actually thought of that too. If we end up putting in a unit with a spray hose, I will move the feed lines to the outer edges to get them out of the way and will build a box as you say to keep the hose from getting tangled in the other stuff she stores under the sink. RB On 23/03/2015 11:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Why not just build a little box for the hose to live in? I did that in our last apartment where the hose had a tendency to get caught on the plumbing, it worked out great. 2 pieces of 1x2 in a V shape with a piece of plywood (or even cardboard if you wanted to be really cheap) over the top. Leave the bottom of the V open so water falls out... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT faucets It seems like it is becoming next to impossible to find decent plumbing stuff. We have a Delta faucet on our kitchen sink that is not terribly old but is making my good wife unhappy because it is corroding at bit and losing some of the chrome plating. It also leaks around the swivel when it is used for just cold water. That might be fixed with new O rings but the damage to the finish is such that she does not like the look of it. We decided a while ago to get a new faucet. We bought a Kohler unit as they seem to be good quality - or at least they once were. Saturday morning I decided to install the thing. Unfortunately no one wants to do real plumbing anymore so these things all come with flex hoses etc. I prefer the old style where one hooks them up with copper. (although I did our bath remodel on the 2nd floor with mostly PEX). I am getting a bit old, stiff, and too heavy for the work inside kitchen cabinets on the floor but I did manage to change the plumbing lines so that the flex hoses would connect to the existing copper. However, this was one of those faucets with the pull out spray unit in the main spout. The flex hose goes down into the cupboard in a big loop and back up to the bottom of the faucet unit and has a weight on the loop to pull the flex hose back into the spout. Unfortunately, the loop fell right into the area where my existing copper plumbing is with gate valves for shutoff etc. The weight banged on the pipes and got stuck sometimes when the spray unit was pulled out. Not a good thing. We looked it over and I told my wife that I could make it work but it was going to take longer as I was going to have to re-plumb the whole works under the sink and move the feed lines out from the middle to the outer edges of the cabinet in order to leave the middle clear for the spray hose. She looked at the installed faucet and decided she really did not care for it and preferred just to remove it and get something different. This was about 4 PM on Saturday afternoon. We hopped in the car and ran to a couple of stores to see if we could quickly find a different faucet to swap in while the plumbing was apart. No luck at all. So much of the stuff offered appears to be junk intended to last only a short while. The taps weigh next to nothing and have a cheap appearance. HD had one unit on display that might have been OK but then had none in stock. The 2nd store we went to had nothing we would bring home. We were going to dinner with friends Saturday evening so I had to leave it as it was at that point but after we returned home later in the evening, I pulled the new faucet back out and put it back in the box. No harm done to it that I can see. It never even had water run through it. Sunday morning, I re-installed the old faucet and we were back up and running by lunch time but we are still on the lookout for a decent replacement faucet set. I needed to get it working as I had to shutoff the lines that feed the washer in the basement as they are on the same lines that feed the kitchen. I pulled the hoses from the washer and drained the piping to the kitchen via the valves for the washer so that I could solder in the cupboard in the kitchen. My wife wanted to use the washer so I needed to get the kitchen put back together. I was also going to get only a sandwich for Sunday dinner if I did not get the kitchen functional again. My wife was looking online to see what she could find and noted that Delta seems to have almost disappeared. She saw a Grohe that looked like it might be ok but we would likely have to order it online and hope it looked good up close. RB who remembers the old days when stuff was well made in North America and one could even get parts and fix things instead of replacing them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
[MBZ] OT my final copper light instructable
I finally went back and added some final photos and instructions on making the copper lights I put in my new kitchen, should anyone care or have an interest. It was fun and productive work. http://www.instructables.com/id/Copper-LED-Light-Fixtures/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: This poor Audi
Youngster sent me this: Sent from my iPad I can't believe someone drove it that long without changing the oil http://jalopnik.com/what-happens-if-you-dont-change-the-oil-in-your-audi-fo-1692660828 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Why not just build a little box for the hose to live in? I did that in our last apartment where the hose had a tendency to get caught on the plumbing, it worked out great. 2 pieces of 1x2 in a V shape with a piece of plywood (or even cardboard if you wanted to be really cheap) over the top. Leave the bottom of the V open so water falls out... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT faucets It seems like it is becoming next to impossible to find decent plumbing stuff. We have a Delta faucet on our kitchen sink that is not terribly old but is making my good wife unhappy because it is corroding at bit and losing some of the chrome plating. It also leaks around the swivel when it is used for just cold water. That might be fixed with new O rings but the damage to the finish is such that she does not like the look of it. We decided a while ago to get a new faucet. We bought a Kohler unit as they seem to be good quality - or at least they once were. Saturday morning I decided to install the thing. Unfortunately no one wants to do real plumbing anymore so these things all come with flex hoses etc. I prefer the old style where one hooks them up with copper. (although I did our bath remodel on the 2nd floor with mostly PEX). I am getting a bit old, stiff, and too heavy for the work inside kitchen cabinets on the floor but I did manage to change the plumbing lines so that the flex hoses would connect to the existing copper. However, this was one of those faucets with the pull out spray unit in the main spout. The flex hose goes down into the cupboard in a big loop and back up to the bottom of the faucet unit and has a weight on the loop to pull the flex hose back into the spout. Unfortunately, the loop fell right into the area where my existing copper plumbing is with gate valves for shutoff etc. The weight banged on the pipes and got stuck sometimes when the spray unit was pulled out. Not a good thing. We looked it over and I told my wife that I could make it work but it was going to take longer as I was going to have to re-plumb the whole works under the sink and move the feed lines out from the middle to the outer edges of the cabinet in order to leave the middle clear for the spray hose. She looked at the installed faucet and decided she really did not care for it and preferred just to remove it and get something different. This was about 4 PM on Saturday afternoon. We hopped in the car and ran to a couple of stores to see if we could quickly find a different faucet to swap in while the plumbing was apart. No luck at all. So much of the stuff offered appears to be junk intended to last only a short while. The taps weigh next to nothing and have a cheap appearance. HD had one unit on display that might have been OK but then had none in stock. The 2nd store we went to had nothing we would bring home. We were going to dinner with friends Saturday evening so I had to leave it as it was at that point but after we returned home later in the evening, I pulled the new faucet back out and put it back in the box. No harm done to it that I can see. It never even had water run through it. Sunday morning, I re-installed the old faucet and we were back up and running by lunch time but we are still on the lookout for a decent replacement faucet set. I needed to get it working as I had to shutoff the lines that feed the washer in the basement as they are on the same lines that feed the kitchen. I pulled the hoses from the washer and drained the piping to the kitchen via the valves for the washer so that I could solder in the cupboard in the kitchen. My wife wanted to use the washer so I needed to get the kitchen put back together. I was also going to get only a sandwich for Sunday dinner if I did not get the kitchen functional again. My wife was looking online to see what she could find and noted that Delta seems to have almost disappeared. She saw a Grohe that looked like it might be ok but we would likely have to order it online and hope it looked good up close. RB who remembers the old days when stuff was well made in North America and one could even get parts and fix things instead of replacing them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Here is an nice one. A little on the high side for me. (: Buy Kohler K-6227-c15-bv Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 23, 2015, at 12:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've taken to buying commercial grade faucets from www.faucetdepot.com instead of the junk in the retail stores. So far, they've worked out fine. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] grounding heads up
What a nightmare. This is why I thank my lucky stars I discovered Mercedes 33 years ago and have owned no other marque else since. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No idea if this applies to MB but it likely could not hurt. My mechanic son Tom, spent the weekend swapping a transmission for a friend in a 2000 Nissan Maxma. The existing transmission still moved the car but would not go into the higher gears. They had a couple of options. Have the original rebuilt or find a used one to throw into it. They chose the latter and found a used one from a junk yard for a fraction of the price of the rebuild. Tom had his fingers crossed that the transmission would work once it was installed. The yard that they got it from swore it worked fine before it was removed from the previous car but it had also been on their shelf for a long while. He pulled the old transmission on Saturday and had the replacement in and most of the car back together by Saturday at supper time. Sunday, he went back out in the morning to finish it off. Then he got a surprise. The vehicle would crank but not start. He checked a bunch of things but had no success in starting it. No codes came up. He then went online and read some forums that discussed this. The gist of what he found there is that one must sand the mating surfaces of the engine and the transmission to clean the metal and ensure a good ground between the two. He could not easily do this after it was all installed without pulling the transmission again so the did the next best thing and installed a couple of ground wires from the transmission bolts back to the battery ground. That seemed to do the trick as the engine then fired up. He drove it a bit and the transmssion started out a bit questionable, flaring etc, but seemed to get better after he drove it some, so he has given the vehicle back to the owners with instructions to drive it but to try not to abuse it for a bit and see if it improves with time and use. They did put Mobil1 transmission fluid in it. He says he did read the instructions on Mitchell before he started the job and looked at all of the tips they offer but they said nothing about this issue of grounding. He says he will never install another transmission without cleaning the mating surfaces to ensure he does not run into this issue again. He has also suggested to the vehicle owner that it is a good time to sell the Maxima. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
On 23/03/2015 12:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: This posting serves to remind me of one thing that really fails to impress me with our civilization in particular. We are now surrounded by high tech electrical devices. Our cars will start without taking the key out of our pockets, our wrist watch has greater computing power than the first rocket that guided a crew to land on the moon, yet we have barely evolved past the inside toilet in quality and tech when it comes to home materials like plumbing and construction. Plumbing is a billion dollar industry, yet the water valves in my great grandmothers home that are 140 years old are of better quality than what I can buy today, and are still working. For example. Is this a good as we can do? The reverse is true. We are going backward. Electronics are throw away as there is a newer, better, cheaper one waiting to be sold to you. The people that make hardware and tools and appliances want in on this so they make the stuff fail and refuse to make parts readily available so we have little choice but to buy the next version of the junk they peddle. The faucets on the sink at home when I was a kid lasted until the sink wore out. They likely could have been re-used but we put new ones in with the new sink. I have since changed those new ones out for a new set and that one is causing trouble. The first were good for better than 30 years and the chrome was good when we tossed them. The two sets since have not lasted 10 years each and they are only used from May through October as the place is closed down for the winter. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w115 transmisison
Easier to plug your VIN into the online EPC and get the vehicle data card, maybe... It may not cover a car that old? -Max On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I can look at the plate by the radiator on my car. I assume that should tell us what is in my 76 115 300D. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
The other things I did not mention were the big looped drain hose for the dishwasher and the feed line for the dishwasher, which are in the middle of this cabinet as well. Another couple of obstacles. If I did the box you refer to, the dishwasher drain could likely be put in front of it. RB On 23/03/2015 11:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Why not just build a little box for the hose to live in? I did that in our last apartment where the hose had a tendency to get caught on the plumbing, it worked out great. 2 pieces of 1x2 in a V shape with a piece of plywood (or even cardboard if you wanted to be really cheap) over the top. Leave the bottom of the V open so water falls out... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT faucets It seems like it is becoming next to impossible to find decent plumbing stuff. We have a Delta faucet on our kitchen sink that is not terribly old but is making my good wife unhappy because it is corroding at bit and losing some of the chrome plating. It also leaks around the swivel when it is used for just cold water. That might be fixed with new O rings but the damage to the finish is such that she does not like the look of it. We decided a while ago to get a new faucet. We bought a Kohler unit as they seem to be good quality - or at least they once were. Saturday morning I decided to install the thing. Unfortunately no one wants to do real plumbing anymore so these things all come with flex hoses etc. I prefer the old style where one hooks them up with copper. (although I did our bath remodel on the 2nd floor with mostly PEX). I am getting a bit old, stiff, and too heavy for the work inside kitchen cabinets on the floor but I did manage to change the plumbing lines so that the flex hoses would connect to the existing copper. However, this was one of those faucets with the pull out spray unit in the main spout. The flex hose goes down into the cupboard in a big loop and back up to the bottom of the faucet unit and has a weight on the loop to pull the flex hose back into the spout. Unfortunately, the loop fell right into the area where my existing copper plumbing is with gate valves for shutoff etc. The weight banged on the pipes and got stuck sometimes when the spray unit was pulled out. Not a good thing. We looked it over and I told my wife that I could make it work but it was going to take longer as I was going to have to re-plumb the whole works under the sink and move the feed lines out from the middle to the outer edges of the cabinet in order to leave the middle clear for the spray hose. She looked at the installed faucet and decided she really did not care for it and preferred just to remove it and get something different. This was about 4 PM on Saturday afternoon. We hopped in the car and ran to a couple of stores to see if we could quickly find a different faucet to swap in while the plumbing was apart. No luck at all. So much of the stuff offered appears to be junk intended to last only a short while. The taps weigh next to nothing and have a cheap appearance. HD had one unit on display that might have been OK but then had none in stock. The 2nd store we went to had nothing we would bring home. We were going to dinner with friends Saturday evening so I had to leave it as it was at that point but after we returned home later in the evening, I pulled the new faucet back out and put it back in the box. No harm done to it that I can see. It never even had water run through it. Sunday morning, I re-installed the old faucet and we were back up and running by lunch time but we are still on the lookout for a decent replacement faucet set. I needed to get it working as I had to shutoff the lines that feed the washer in the basement as they are on the same lines that feed the kitchen. I pulled the hoses from the washer and drained the piping to the kitchen via the valves for the washer so that I could solder in the cupboard in the kitchen. My wife wanted to use the washer so I needed to get the kitchen put back together. I was also going to get only a sandwich for Sunday dinner if I did not get the kitchen functional again. My wife was looking online to see what she could find and noted that Delta seems to have almost disappeared. She saw a Grohe that looked like it might be ok but we would likely have to order it online and hope it looked good up close. RB who remembers the old days when stuff was well made in North America and one could even get parts and fix things instead of replacing them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] w115 transmisison
I can look at the plate by the radiator on my car. I assume that should tell us what is in my 76 115 300D. RB On 20/03/2015 7:08 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Anybody know which auto trans was installed in a 300D in 1976? I am finding 722.1 722.2 and 722.3 mentioned. Is it important to use the exact 76 trans, or could I use something from an early w123? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Once seen, cannot be unseen
Oh my gawd those were the *exact* rims I had purchased and ready to put on the Fintail! Blast! Now I'll have to find something even more obnoxious. EdB. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4929137546.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes 240D (W123 Diesel) PHX CL Bueno
What gave it away as his? The horn? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that yours Bob, or did you just find it? EdB. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4935800260.html Someone needs this.. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on from the global warming conspiracy front
I live with ONE very special 18 lb. black cat, a survivor of cancer surgery, whose purring rattles the windows, and who is more dog-like than feline.. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew sez: I shower at least weekly, except in leap months. Yabut, you live with cats. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes 240D (W123 Diesel) PHX CL Bueno
Is that mittle rot or orient red? On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What gave it away as his? The horn? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that yours Bob, or did you just find it? EdB. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4935800260.html Someone needs this.. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes 240D (W123 Diesel) PHX CL Bueno
Is that yours Bob, or did you just find it? EdB. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4935800260.html Someone needs this.. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I just ripped out my old kitchen, a coupla years ago I had to replace the leaky single-handle faucet so bought probably the same thing from Lowes, was like $40 too. POS but it lasted for a year or so until the handle started flopping around, tightening the screw lasted about 3 days and it was back again flopping, and then it started leaking on the valve. So it is sitting on the porch in the double SS sink, the Habitat guys are coming Th to drag off the old fridge, I'll see if they want it, or I might save it and put it down under the deck for an outdoor cleanup sink or something. I guess I got my dinero worth, it was only meant to be a temp fix, but it still sorta pisses me off that something so simple, that has been around pretty much for 50 years, can't last more than a year or two. Two words: Crowbar, BFH --R On 3/23/15 5:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I just bought a $40 chinee delta knockoff at el mercado de wall/ gato merde It works ok, but not thrilling. It looks exactly the same as a the chinee ones sold on fleaby for $15. I didn't have time to wait, as the faucet project came up a couple days before we needed to leave. I too am getting to decrepit to work under da sink. A couple of couch cushions helped a lot. Installation was easy , but getting the old one out was a pain. All parts are still available for Deltas here in the lower 48. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile
I imagine you will be stopping again fairly soon if you are indeed eating at Taco Bell. :) Mike On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: Actually I was at a gas station and now I'm at Taco Bell. :) Donald H. Snook On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:09 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: And texting while driving at 80 mph? What kinda evidence woulda call this? ;) Please have a safe trip and enjoy the new car. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile Actually, I'm currently driving the new Snookmobile. I'm in between Russelville, AR and Fort Smith. Cruise it set at 80 mph. Last fill up showed 25.1 MPG for trip so far Donald H. Snook On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://jalopnik.com/for-3-985-this-custom-1988-bmw-750il-is-a-wide-load-1692944875 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I tried to buy a good, older kitchen faucet from a used store for one of my rentals here in Michigan last year and was told they could no longer sell the due lead regulations. Frustrating. Mike On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I just ripped out my old kitchen, a coupla years ago I had to replace the leaky single-handle faucet so bought probably the same thing from Lowes, was like $40 too. POS but it lasted for a year or so until the handle started flopping around, tightening the screw lasted about 3 days and it was back again flopping, and then it started leaking on the valve. So it is sitting on the porch in the double SS sink, the Habitat guys are coming Th to drag off the old fridge, I'll see if they want it, or I might save it and put it down under the deck for an outdoor cleanup sink or something. I guess I got my dinero worth, it was only meant to be a temp fix, but it still sorta pisses me off that something so simple, that has been around pretty much for 50 years, can't last more than a year or two. Two words: Crowbar, BFH --R On 3/23/15 5:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I just bought a $40 chinee delta knockoff at el mercado de wall/ gato merde It works ok, but not thrilling. It looks exactly the same as a the chinee ones sold on fleaby for $15. I didn't have time to wait, as the faucet project came up a couple days before we needed to leave. I too am getting to decrepit to work under da sink. A couple of couch cushions helped a lot. Installation was easy , but getting the old one out was a pain. All parts are still available for Deltas here in the lower 48. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
I had a delta kitchen faucet corrode from the inside in just 6 yrs. total garbage. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Don't buy plumbing stuff at the box stores, it's invariably the worst possible grade available. Go to a standard pluming supply company, the one your local plumbers use. Slightly higher prices, but vastly better stuff. I need to do this myself, I grabbed a Delta from the box store last year because the old one was leaking into the basement and it's a pain to get to the plumber's supply from work (they close at 5). I'm sorry I did, it's flimsy and the temperature control is pretty much full hot or full cold, the range where there is mixing is about 10% of the travel of the tap. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
And Curt drives a 30 year old car. True sign of a neo Luddite On Mar 23, 2015 9:01 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Somehow I got mixer faucets and single handle faucets confused. Mixers are worth having, the single handle jobs are not. -Curt What a luddite! I bet you cook on coleman stoves and use a lantern for light too! Actually, I like single handle delta faucets. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile
Touche and bonus points! On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I imagine you will be stopping again fairly soon if you are indeed eating at Taco Bell. :) Mike On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: Actually I was at a gas station and now I'm at Taco Bell. :) Donald H. Snook On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:09 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: And texting while driving at 80 mph? What kinda evidence woulda call this? ;) Please have a safe trip and enjoy the new car. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new Snookmobile Actually, I'm currently driving the new Snookmobile. I'm in between Russelville, AR and Fort Smith. Cruise it set at 80 mph. Last fill up showed 25.1 MPG for trip so far Donald H. Snook On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://jalopnik.com/for-3-985-this-custom-1988-bmw-750il-is-a-wide-load-1692944875 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Well, the faucet I'm talkin' 'bout has valves and valve handles widely separated (where the 1905 spigots were); the water is mixed at the base of spout, not in the valve(s). They work well, smoothly and positively from only a trickle (if desired) to full non-splattering full flow and anywhere between. 'Well satisfied with it. BTW, I don't like those pull/push POS's, either. Reminds me: At a Best Buy few days ago, restroom faucets had those pull/push/twist (what the Hell ever - never did figure it out) faucets. 'Finally got some water flowing, then couldn't turn it off; left it running. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets All the faucets in our house are mixers and I don't like any of them. The ones I especially don't like are in the bathroom because they're the kind you have to pull out. The one in the bathroom sink is the worst, pull not hard enough and nothing happens, pull too hard and water BLASTS out and your crotch gets drenched. You end up playing a wiggle wiggle wiggle game to get enough but not too much. When we finally decide to de-pink our bathroom completely the pink vanity will go along with the stupid mixer faucet. Wilton I think you got sold a bill of goods... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets The separate hot/cold faucets I replaced with the Pfister mixer faucet a few years ago lasted well over 100 years. 'Replaced 'em 'cause I wanted a faucet that looks better and mixes hot/cold, though I seldom turn the hot on. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets On 23/03/2015 12:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: This posting serves to remind me of one thing that really fails to impress me with our civilization in particular. We are now surrounded by high tech electrical devices. Our cars will start without taking the key out of our pockets, our wrist watch has greater computing power than the first rocket that guided a crew to land on the moon, yet we have barely evolved past the inside toilet in quality and tech when it comes to home materials like plumbing and construction. Plumbing is a billion dollar industry, yet the water valves in my great grandmothers home that are 140 years old are of better quality than what I can buy today, and are still working. For example. Is this a good as we can do? The reverse is true. We are going backward. Electronics are throw away as there is a newer, better, cheaper one waiting to be sold to you. The people that make hardware and tools and appliances want in on this so they make the stuff fail and refuse to make parts readily available so we have little choice but to buy the next version of the junk they peddle. The faucets on the sink at home when I was a kid lasted until the sink wore out. They likely could have been re-used but we put new ones in with the new sink. I have since changed those new ones out for a new set and that one is causing trouble. The first were good for better than 30 years and the chrome was good when we tossed them. The two sets since have not lasted 10 years each and they are only used from May through October as the place is closed down for the winter. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Somehow I got mixer faucets and single handle faucets confused. Mixers are worth having, the single handle jobs are not. -Curt What a luddite! I bet you cook on coleman stoves and use a lantern for light too! Actually, I like single handle delta faucets. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Actually for Christmas I got an Optimus stove which might be my new favorite: http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-Hiker-Plus-Single-Unit/dp/B0042Y7562/ref=sr_1_5?s=outdoor-recreationie=UTF8qid=1427158993sr=1-5keywords=Optimus The new one is quite large, I've got a much smaller one that I've had for a few years. I love the design, super simple and it'll burn about anything. I've been using the larger one with kerosene thus far... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets Somehow I got mixer faucets and single handle faucets confused. Mixers are worth having, the single handle jobs are not. -Curt What a luddite! I bet you cook on coleman stoves and use a lantern for light too! Actually, I like single handle delta faucets. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Somehow I got mixer faucets and single handle faucets confused. Mixers are worth having, the single handle jobs are not. -Curt From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets Well, the faucet I'm talkin' 'bout has valves and valve handles widely separated (where the 1905 spigots were); the water is mixed at the base of spout, not in the valve(s). They work well, smoothly and positively from only a trickle (if desired) to full non-splattering full flow and anywhere between. 'Well satisfied with it. BTW, I don't like those pull/push POS's, either. Reminds me: At a Best Buy few days ago, restroom faucets had those pull/push/twist (what the Hell ever - never did figure it out) faucets. 'Finally got some water flowing, then couldn't turn it off; left it running. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets All the faucets in our house are mixers and I don't like any of them. The ones I especially don't like are in the bathroom because they're the kind you have to pull out. The one in the bathroom sink is the worst, pull not hard enough and nothing happens, pull too hard and water BLASTS out and your crotch gets drenched. You end up playing a wiggle wiggle wiggle game to get enough but not too much. When we finally decide to de-pink our bathroom completely the pink vanity will go along with the stupid mixer faucet. Wilton I think you got sold a bill of goods... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets The separate hot/cold faucets I replaced with the Pfister mixer faucet a few years ago lasted well over 100 years. 'Replaced 'em 'cause I wanted a faucet that looks better and mixes hot/cold, though I seldom turn the hot on. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets On 23/03/2015 12:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: This posting serves to remind me of one thing that really fails to impress me with our civilization in particular. We are now surrounded by high tech electrical devices. Our cars will start without taking the key out of our pockets, our wrist watch has greater computing power than the first rocket that guided a crew to land on the moon, yet we have barely evolved past the inside toilet in quality and tech when it comes to home materials like plumbing and construction. Plumbing is a billion dollar industry, yet the water valves in my great grandmothers home that are 140 years old are of better quality than what I can buy today, and are still working. For example. Is this a good as we can do? The reverse is true. We are going backward. Electronics are throw away as there is a newer, better, cheaper one waiting to be sold to you. The people that make hardware and tools and appliances want in on this so they make the stuff fail and refuse to make parts readily available so we have little choice but to buy the next version of the junk they peddle. The faucets on the sink at home when I was a kid lasted until the sink wore out. They likely could have been re-used but we put new ones in with the new sink. I have since changed those new ones out for a new set and that one is causing trouble. The first were good for better than 30 years and the chrome was good when we tossed them. The two sets since have not lasted 10 years each and they are only used from May through October as the place is closed down for the winter. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To
Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes 240D (W123 Diesel) PHX CL Bueno
Good. I don't want to look because I may be smitten. Bob R On Mar 23, 2015 9:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bob, Since it's in town and I'm in Phoenix.. I think I will give it a look tomorrow. Seems like a pretty virgin car for a pretty price. Of course, I'll try to improve on that number if it can be done... I like that it's a 3 peddle car. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:30 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4935800260.html Someone needs this.. Bob R ___ It has five cylinders? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
And Curt drives a 30 year old car. True sign of a neo Luddite My new car is 27, and my oldest is ... Wow! 49 this year! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
My new car is 25 my next one is 33. I don't mind at all being a Lyddite. On Mar 23, 2015 9:46 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And Curt drives a 30 year old car. True sign of a neo Luddite My new car is 27, and my oldest is ... Wow! 49 this year! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Luddite On Mar 23, 2015 10:12 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: My new car is 25 my next one is 33. I don't mind at all being a Lyddite. On Mar 23, 2015 9:46 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And Curt drives a 30 year old car. True sign of a neo Luddite My new car is 27, and my oldest is ... Wow! 49 this year! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Mine are 32 and 30. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Luddite On Mar 23, 2015 10:12 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: My new car is 25 my next one is 33. I don't mind at all being a Lyddite. On Mar 23, 2015 9:46 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And Curt drives a 30 year old car. True sign of a neo Luddite My new car is 27, and my oldest is ... Wow! 49 this year! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT faucets
Mine's a whippersnapper at 28½. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT faucets Mine are 32 and 30. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Luddite On Mar 23, 2015 10:12 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: My new car is 25 my next one is 33. I don't mind at all being a Lyddite. On Mar 23, 2015 9:46 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And Curt drives a 30 year old car. True sign of a neo Luddite My new car is 27, and my oldest is ... Wow! 49 this year! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/ mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Q for the network guys
I am getting annoyed with email attachments being stripped off email from certain senders, with no apparent pattern. Today I received an email sent with an important attachment, but when I received it, there was no attachment. The first instance I noticed was close to a year ago, the local community college was sending emails with attachments, but the attachments were stripped most of the time. In between there have been other instances. Today's email originated in St. Joe, MO. the CC is only a couple miles away, although the message probably went to the head shed and them here, making the distance around 60 miles. Is anyone else noticing attachments being stripped? Does anyone know if the stripping is being done at ISPs? the backbone carriers? or elsewhere? Is there anything I can do to prevent the attachments being stripped? Thanks! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1982 Mercedes 240D (W123 Diesel) PHX CL Bueno
Bob, Since it's in town and I'm in Phoenix.. I think I will give it a look tomorrow. Seems like a pretty virgin car for a pretty price. Of course, I'll try to improve on that number if it can be done... I like that it's a 3 peddle car. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:30 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4935800260.html Someone needs this.. Bob R ___ It has five cylinders? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
