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Amazing!  There is a Euro product that turns tanned skin into fishbelly
white but it's ony sold in urope.

Peace sure beats wartime.

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> That is really cool.  Amazing how the buildings have been restored.
>
> One main difference:  today the Germans and Brits are fat and wearing
> black speedos on the beach, but still pasty white.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/10/15 6:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
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>>
>> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/d-day-landing-sites-then-now-normandy-beaches-1944-70-years-later-1450286
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Re: [MBZ] This looks nice

He left out a digit.  Price should be $28,xxx.

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> Thanks Mitch!
>
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> > The odd price that's just a little too low ($2855)
> > is the tip-off. Also, the South Carolina phone number
> > on a Tampa ad.
> >
> > And then when you put the phone number in a Google
> > search, you see this:
> > 2 days ago - (803) 810-1704 - 2003 nissan maxima gle - $1550: ORGANIZED
> > CRIME!!!
> > ((803) 810-1704 is a PROFESSIONAL SCAMMER!)
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Re: [MBZ] This looks nice

If that was real pooosy needs to jump on it

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> 
> Yes, but the ad is pretty light on details like location and pix.  Price is
> right, mileage seems incredibly low.  Too good to be true perhaps?
> 
> I like the exterior color, but the grey interior is pretty boring.  I'm
> sure Andrew will agree...
> 
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> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5308255627.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed amount
of gold.

--R

On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for various
reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and always has the same
buying power.

BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is sending you?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
Gerry

Curt wrote:

No inflation means you never get a raise...
If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, look
at the price of cars...

Curt

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)

The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material. I told them, "Your
friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
and think about this. For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
cents we're getting for nothing."

Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
Craig

So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that
was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the gold
standard.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] This looks nice

The odd price that's just a little too low ($2855)
is the tip-off. Also, the South Carolina phone number
on a Tampa ad. 

And then when you put the phone number in a Google
search, you see this:
2 days ago - (803) 810-1704 - 2003 nissan maxima gle - $1550: ORGANIZED CRIME!!!
((803) 810-1704 is a PROFESSIONAL SCAMMER!) 

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Re: [MBZ] THIS is CRACK!

A very rare 123 for which the mileage and price are nearly identical.

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> and then later on they claim the interior is leather.
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> > i put your name and contact info in the listing
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 11/9/15 11:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip=true=AUTO=c23766=c23768=20818=500=true=true=true=undefined=undefined#listing=127123227
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for various 
reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and always has 
the same buying power.

BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is sending you?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
Gerry

Curt wrote:
> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, 
> look at the price of cars...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>   On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via 
> Mercedes wrote:   
> > > GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > > By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >    
> > > The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > > them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > > friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > > and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > > cents we're getting for nothing."
> > 
> > Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > Craig
> 
> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that 
> was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the 
> gold standard.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I might point out, those dollars your friend paid for that gold is now
worth about 0.13 cents in real buying power. Adjusted against the dollars
buying power at the time of purchase.

Hard to keep such comparisons in a strictly "apples to apples" frame of
reference. But quite necessary when assessing real buying power of stored
investment gold.

The worldwide ponzi schemes of central banks AKA Federal Reserve have just
run out of fresh victims and ponzi... expect major crash in near future,
some have already crashed and been propped up in short term.. there is no
"reserve" to call on for long term left.



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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> True, but it's "buying power" is never based on deliberate governmental
> devalutation (inflation) like the dollar. Over time, the averaged price of
> gold continues to increase in value. For example, the gold that a friend
> bought in the 1980s is now worth four times what he paid for it, and at one
> time was worth 6 times what he paid for it in US$.
> Of course, the gold standard is an impractical system in the current, fast
> moving, computerized world.
> Gerry
>
> Rich Thomas wrote:
> > Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed amount
> > of gold.
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > > No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for
> various reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and
> always has the same buying power.
> > >
> > > BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is
> sending you?
> > >
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
> > > Gerry
> > >
> > > Curt wrote:
> > >> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> > >> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty
> good, look at the price of cars...
> > >>
> > >> Curt
> > >>
> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >>
> > >>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >  GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> >  By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > 
> >   
> >  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> >  them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> >  friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> >  and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> >  cents we're getting for nothing."
> > >>> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > >>> Craig
> > >> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> > >> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation,
> but that was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort
> of) on the gold standard.
> > >> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] 1944 and 2014: D-Day historical sites sure look different now

I have seen that stuff there but unfortunately I have the natural 
whiteness (whitist of white boys) so good to go without it, but I DO NOT 
wear the black speedo.


--R

On 11/10/15 11:31 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Amazing!  There is a Euro product that turns tanned skin into 
fishbelly white but it's ony sold in urope.

Peace sure beats wartime.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:


That is really cool.  Amazing how the buildings have been restored.

One main difference:  today the Germans and Brits are fat and
wearing black speedos on the beach, but still pasty white.

--R


On 11/10/15 6:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/d-day-landing-sites-then-now-normandy-beaches-1944-70-years-later-1450286

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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

Hey Grant, I'll buy ALL your soon-to-be-worthless paper dollars for 50 REAL
copper pennies each!

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> I might point out, those dollars your friend paid for that gold is now
> worth about 0.13 cents in real buying power. Adjusted against the dollars
> buying power at the time of purchase.
>
> Hard to keep such comparisons in a strictly "apples to apples" frame of
> reference. But quite necessary when assessing real buying power of stored
> investment gold.
>
> The worldwide ponzi schemes of central banks AKA Federal Reserve have just
> run out of fresh victims and ponzi... expect major crash in near future,
> some have already crashed and been propped up in short term.. there is no
> "reserve" to call on for long term left.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:50 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > True, but it's "buying power" is never based on deliberate governmental
> > devalutation (inflation) like the dollar. Over time, the averaged price
> of
> > gold continues to increase in value. For example, the gold that a friend
> > bought in the 1980s is now worth four times what he paid for it, and at
> one
> > time was worth 6 times what he paid for it in US$.
> > Of course, the gold standard is an impractical system in the current,
> fast
> > moving, computerized world.
> > Gerry
> >
> > Rich Thomas wrote:
> > > Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed
> amount
> > > of gold.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > > On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise
> for
> > various reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold
> and
> > always has the same buying power.
> > > >
> > > > BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is
> > sending you?
> > > >
> >
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
> > > > Gerry
> > > >
> > > > Curt wrote:
> > > >> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> > > >> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty
> > good, look at the price of cars...
> > > >>
> > > >> Curt
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > > >>
> > > >>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >  GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > >  By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >   
> > >  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > >  them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > >  friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about
> it,
> > >  and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's
> 50
> > >  cents we're getting for nothing."
> > > >>> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > > >>> Craig
> > > >> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> > > >> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation,
> > but that was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort
> > of) on the gold standard.
> > > >> Gerry
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[MBZ] El Capitan

Not heeding my own advice, but I was forced to...


I picked up a macbook off Goodwill yesterday.  Paid next to nothing for a 
unibody with working battery, no charger, small ram.  The thing was wiped with 
fresh install of 10.6.3.  I tried to migrate stuff over and update the OS.  
Update just locked it up, as it had done on my other macbooks.  It would not 
allow me to install 10.7 from DVD, but manual update got to 10.6.8 so the DVD 
did work.  Auto update on 10.7 farted and locked.  It did not want to behave, 
so I just went with El Capitan.  Took all night to install.

This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel.  No lock up 
so far.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Thanks. I neglected to look that up and point that out.
Gerry

G Mann wrote:

> I might point out, those dollars your friend paid for that gold is now
> worth about 0.13 cents in real buying power. Adjusted against the dollars
> buying power at the time of purchase.
> 
> Hard to keep such comparisons in a strictly "apples to apples" frame of
> reference. But quite necessary when assessing real buying power of stored
> investment gold.
> 
> The worldwide ponzi schemes of central banks AKA Federal Reserve have just
> run out of fresh victims and ponzi... expect major crash in near future,
> some have already crashed and been propped up in short term.. there is no
> "reserve" to call on for long term left.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:50 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > True, but it's "buying power" is never based on deliberate governmental
> > devalutation (inflation) like the dollar. Over time, the averaged price of
> > gold continues to increase in value. For example, the gold that a friend
> > bought in the 1980s is now worth four times what he paid for it, and at one
> > time was worth 6 times what he paid for it in US$.
> > Of course, the gold standard is an impractical system in the current, fast
> > moving, computerized world.
> > Gerry
> >
> > Rich Thomas wrote:
> > > Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed amount
> > > of gold.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > > On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for
> > various reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and
> > always has the same buying power.
> > > >
> > > > BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is
> > sending you?
> > > >
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
> > > > Gerry
> > > >
> > > > Curt wrote:
> > > >> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> > > >> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty
> > good, look at the price of cars...
> > > >>
> > > >> Curt
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> > > >>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >  GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > >  By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >   
> > >  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > >  them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > >  friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > >  and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > >  cents we're getting for nothing."
> > > >>> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > > >>> Craig
> > > >> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> > > >> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation,
> > but that was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort
> > of) on the gold standard.
> > > >> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

A bit too korean for my tastes

clay

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Re: [MBZ] THIS is CRACK!

About the price of a new high end Chrysler.

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>
> > On November 10, 2015 at 11:25 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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> >
> >
> > A very rare 123 for which the mileage and price are nearly identical.
>
> A 123 that's worth more than MSRP is rare indeed.
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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan

Rick warned me about it so I am sticking with good ol' Yosemite.

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> Not heeding my own advice, but I was forced to...
>
>
> I picked up a macbook off Goodwill yesterday.  Paid next to nothing for a
> unibody with working battery, no charger, small ram.  The thing was wiped
> with fresh install of 10.6.3.  I tried to migrate stuff over and update the
> OS.  Update just locked it up, as it had done on my other macbooks.  It
> would not allow me to install 10.7 from DVD, but manual update got to
> 10.6.8 so the DVD did work.  Auto update on 10.7 farted and locked.  It did
> not want to behave, so I just went with El Capitan.  Took all night to
> install.
>
> This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel.  No
> lock up so far.
>
>
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] 1944 and 2014: D-Day historical sites sure look different now

You could go with the tobacco brown flaps of elephant skin with the black 
Speedo that has always been the rage with the retirees down here

Dan still white except for his "farmer's tan"

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> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have seen that stuff there but unfortunately I have the natural whiteness 
> (whitist of white boys) so good to go without it, but I DO NOT wear the black 
> speedo.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 11/10/15 11:31 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> Amazing!  There is a Euro product that turns tanned skin into fishbelly 
>> white but it's ony sold in urope.
>> Peace sure beats wartime.
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>That is really cool.  Amazing how the buildings have been restored.
>> 
>>One main difference:  today the Germans and Brits are fat and
>>wearing black speedos on the beach, but still pasty white.
>> 
>>--R
>> 
>> 
>>On 11/10/15 6:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>
>> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/d-day-landing-sites-then-now-normandy-beaches-1944-70-years-later-1450286
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

My cars both have 1.9l engines, no scandal...


Curt

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Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for various 
reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and always has 
the same buying power.

BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is sending you?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
Gerry

Curt wrote:
> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, 
> look at the price of cars...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>  On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via 
>Mercedes wrote:  
> > > GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > > By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >    
> > > The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > > them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > > friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > > and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > > cents we're getting for nothing."
> > 
> > Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > Craig
> 
> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that 
> was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the 
> gold standard.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT - VW diesel scandal


So that discount "costs" them about nothing.

--R

On 11/10/15 3:21 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On November 10, 2015 at 2:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:


My cars both have 1.9l engines, no scandal...

The headline says $1000, the body of the article says $500 in discounts at the
dealership and
a $500 VISA gift card.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

BTW, due to the appreciating real estate market and the significant 
improvements I made to the cabin using the scrounged/salvaged materials, I 
was rewarded handsomely when we sold it in Aug '79.  'Even made it possible 
for me to buy a new '80 MB 240D ($17.4k) in Nov '79.  'Been driving MB 
Diesels since.


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] THIS is CRACK!



> On November 10, 2015 at 11:25 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> A very rare 123 for which the mileage and price are nearly identical.

A 123 that's worth more than MSRP is rare indeed. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT - VW diesel scandal



> On November 10, 2015 at 2:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My cars both have 1.9l engines, no scandal...

The headline says $1000, the body of the article says $500 in discounts at the
dealership and
a $500 VISA gift card. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan


Not heeding my own advice, but I was forced to...


I picked up a macbook off Goodwill yesterday.  Paid next to nothing 
for a unibody with working battery, no charger, small ram.  The 
thing was wiped with fresh install of 10.6.3.  I tried to migrate 
stuff over and update the OS.  Update just locked it up, as it had 
done on my other macbooks.  It would not allow me to install 10.7 
from DVD, but manual update got to 10.6.8 so the DVD did work.  Auto 
update on 10.7 farted and locked.  It did not want to behave, so I 
just went with El Capitan.  Took all night to install.


This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel. 
No lock up so far.


clay


What is ugly?  the install or the GUI?
What is like ios?

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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan

They dumped classic icons and went South Beach, flat pastel cartoon.  Looks 
like something from Toontown for Miami Hotwives.  The install was very simple.  
Took forever for the download, but I had the install screen there when I woke 
up.  Poke the install button and away it went.   The whole feel is simplistic 
and very one button.  The same look and feel interface as with the iPhones and 
iPads for configuration, as well as execution.  It also hooks deeply into 
iCloud and synching all your Apple products together.  That way you can answer 
you phone on the computer, phone or ipad.  Or move from one to the next as 
needed.  

The slow degradation of options and locking away of user meddling for usability 
sake sort of sucks.  Out of box functionality is slick, so a non tech would 
have no issues or distractions diving right in.  A bit too much like the Benz 
ethos of hiding all the new things under slick wrapping and keeping the user 
from being able to swing a wrench without having all the official parts and 
diagnostic tool kits.

clay

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>> Not heeding my own advice, but I was forced to...
>> 
>> 
>> I picked up a macbook off Goodwill yesterday.  Paid next to nothing for a 
>> unibody with working battery, no charger, small ram.  The thing was wiped 
>> with fresh install of 10.6.3.  I tried to migrate stuff over and update the 
>> OS.  Update just locked it up, as it had done on my other macbooks.  It 
>> would not allow me to install 10.7 from DVD, but manual update got to 10.6.8 
>> so the DVD did work.  Auto update on 10.7 farted and locked.  It did not 
>> want to behave, so I just went with El Capitan.  Took all night to install.
>> 
>> This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel. No lock 
>> up so far.
>> 
>> clay
> 
> What is ugly?  the install or the GUI?
> What is like ios?
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[MBZ] I smoked crack and meth then shooted up some heroin then posted this car on CL


It's a sedan.

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   1985 Mercedes Benz 300TD - $6000



cylinders: *4 cylinders*
drive: *fwd*
fuel: *other*
odometer: *9580

**Everything works except the air conditioner.

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can run on biofuel, a green alternative to fossil fuels. Biofuel such 
as: canola oil, corn, soybeans.

*
5,980 original low miles
replaced transmission, original radio/cassette player works. Replaced 3 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap CD

given the age, I vote repaint.  Red would have oxidized to nasty in thirty years

clay

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> 
> 
>> On November 10, 2015 at 5:22 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5299313187.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan

Very true, the meat is tucked out of view of most users.  The dumbing down 
issue is what stuck in my craw.  Just a bit too simplistic.  Great for 
grandmothers and small children.

clay

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> Terminal is still there, and the underlying OS kernel is still readily 
> accessible for those who wish to tinker or modify.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:57 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> They dumped classic icons and went South Beach, flat pastel cartoon.  Looks 
>> like something from Toontown for Miami Hotwives.  The install was very 
>> simple.  Took forever for the download, but I had the install screen there 
>> when I woke up.  Poke the install button and away it went.   The whole feel 
>> is simplistic and very one button.  The same look and feel interface as with 
>> the iPhones and iPads for configuration, as well as execution.  It also 
>> hooks deeply into iCloud and synching all your Apple products together.  
>> That way you can answer you phone on the computer, phone or ipad.  Or move 
>> from one to the next as needed.  
>> 
>> The slow degradation of options and locking away of user meddling for 
>> usability sake sort of sucks.  Out of box functionality is slick, so a non 
>> tech would have no issues or distractions diving right in.  A bit too much 
>> like the Benz ethos of hiding all the new things under slick wrapping and 
>> keeping the user from being able to swing a wrench without having all the 
>> official parts and diagnostic tool kits.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
 Not heeding my own advice, but I was forced to...
 
 
 I picked up a macbook off Goodwill yesterday.  Paid next to nothing for a 
 unibody with working battery, no charger, small ram.  The thing was wiped 
 with fresh install of 10.6.3.  I tried to migrate stuff over and update 
 the OS.  Update just locked it up, as it had done on my other macbooks.  
 It would not allow me to install 10.7 from DVD, but manual update got to 
 10.6.8 so the DVD did work.  Auto update on 10.7 farted and locked.  It 
 did not want to behave, so I just went with El Capitan.  Took all night to 
 install.
 
 This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel. No lock 
 up so far.
 
 clay
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap CD

I'm guessing a repaint.  It looks like the car a woman I know was 
selling a few years ago, she and her husband had lots of diesels and had 
a CD for awhile then decided to sell it.  They had done some work on it, 
not sure if they had it repainted or not but it did look like a respray, 
same color as this one and too shiny too.  But they did come in red I 
think, I have seen others around.


--R

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On November 10, 2015 at 5:22 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5299313187.html

Is that a real color or a repaint?

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[MBZ] Cheap CD


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5299313187.html

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap CD



> On November 10, 2015 at 5:22 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5299313187.html

Is that a real color or a repaint?

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Re: [MBZ] I smoked crack and meth then shooted up some heroin then posted this car on CL

Wow that is a lot of drug use

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> On Nov 10, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It's a sedan.
> 
> --R
> 
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5304943640.html
> 
> 
>   1985 Mercedes Benz 300TD - $6000
> 
> 
> 
> cylinders: *4 cylinders*
> drive: *fwd*
> fuel: *other*
> odometer: *9580
> 
> **Everything works except the air conditioner.
> 
> Despite minor repairs needed, the fact that it's a diesel is a bonus. It can 
> run on biofuel, a green alternative to fossil fuels. Biofuel such as: canola 
> oil, corn, soybeans.
> *
> 5,980 original low miles
> replaced transmission, original radio/cassette player works. Replaced 3 ball 
> joints, alternator, and battery.
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap CD

2015-11-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:40:05 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'm guessing a repaint.  It looks like the car a woman I know was 
> selling a few years ago, she and her husband had lots of diesels and
> had a CD for awhile then decided to sell it.  They had done some work
> on it, not sure if they had it repainted or not but it did look like a
> respray, same color as this one and too shiny too.  But they did come
> in red I think, I have seen others around.

Chinese Red was about that color.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan

2015-11-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes


This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel.


So I think of the Yosemite that's on my wife's 'book.  Ugly.
Works well, though, but slow.  Cured the infuriating wifi problems
we were having with 10.5, 10.6.  Could use an SSD, but RAM is maxed
at 4GB.  It wants more.  You probably need a lot more.

I'm sending this from my machine that's running 10.2.8, controlled
(via Chicken of the VNC) from a G5Q that's running 10.5.8.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan

What kind of ‘book? My secondary machine is a late 2008 Unibody MacBook Pro 13” 
C2D with 8GB of RAM and an SSD.  It works quite well under El Capitan.

Dan




> On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel.
> 
> So I think of the Yosemite that's on my wife's 'book.  Ugly.
> Works well, though, but slow.  Cured the infuriating wifi problems
> we were having with 10.5, 10.6.  Could use an SSD, but RAM is maxed
> at 4GB.  It wants more.  You probably need a lot more.
> 
> I'm sending this from my machine that's running 10.2.8, controlled
> (via Chicken of the VNC) from a G5Q that's running 10.5.8.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

2015-11-10 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes

On Nov 9, 2015 5:26 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>
> But it's a hybrid and will save you money and Gaia!  You could put an
Obama or Bernie sticker on it and be good to go!
>
Just think of the torque curve with a 114 hp elective motor supplementing a
twin turbo gas engine. And you can sign me up for that heated steering
wheel option, too.

Tom
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[MBZ] 1944 and 2014: D-Day historical sites sure look different now

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/d-day-landing-sites-then-now-normandy-beaches-1944-70-years-later-1450286

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[MBZ] This looks nice

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5308255627.html

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Re: [MBZ] THIS is CRACK!


i put your name and contact info in the listing

--R

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Re: [MBZ] This looks nice

2015-11-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Yes, but the ad is pretty light on details like location and pix.  Price is
right, mileage seems incredibly low.  Too good to be true perhaps?

I like the exterior color, but the grey interior is pretty boring.  I'm
sure Andrew will agree...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5308255627.html
>
> Dan
>
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Re: [MBZ] THIS is CRACK!

2015-11-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

"This is an original, unrestored car that was comprehensively inspected and
reconditioned by the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center."

and then later on they claim the interior is leather.

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Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> i put your name and contact info in the listing
>
> --R
>
> On 11/9/15 11:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=usedPaidSearchNoZip=true=AUTO=c23766=c23768=20818=500=true=true=true=undefined=undefined#listing=127123227
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Re: [MBZ] 1944 and 2014: D-Day historical sites sure look different now


That is really cool.  Amazing how the buildings have been restored.

One main difference:  today the Germans and Brits are fat and wearing 
black speedos on the beach, but still pasty white.


--R

On 11/10/15 6:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/d-day-landing-sites-then-now-normandy-beaches-1944-70-years-later-1450286

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Re: [MBZ] This looks nice

Good price too if the car is OK.  I like that color but the interior 
might be nicer in tan or black.


The spare tire is original and never on the road. The spare tire is 
original and never on the road.


--R

On 11/10/15 6:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5308255627.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan

Terminal is still there, and the underlying OS kernel is still readily 
accessible for those who wish to tinker or modify.

Dan


> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:57 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> They dumped classic icons and went South Beach, flat pastel cartoon.  Looks 
> like something from Toontown for Miami Hotwives.  The install was very 
> simple.  Took forever for the download, but I had the install screen there 
> when I woke up.  Poke the install button and away it went.   The whole feel 
> is simplistic and very one button.  The same look and feel interface as with 
> the iPhones and iPads for configuration, as well as execution.  It also hooks 
> deeply into iCloud and synching all your Apple products together.  That way 
> you can answer you phone on the computer, phone or ipad.  Or move from one to 
> the next as needed.  
> 
> The slow degradation of options and locking away of user meddling for 
> usability sake sort of sucks.  Out of box functionality is slick, so a non 
> tech would have no issues or distractions diving right in.  A bit too much 
> like the Benz ethos of hiding all the new things under slick wrapping and 
> keeping the user from being able to swing a wrench without having all the 
> official parts and diagnostic tool kits.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>>> Not heeding my own advice, but I was forced to...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I picked up a macbook off Goodwill yesterday.  Paid next to nothing for a 
>>> unibody with working battery, no charger, small ram.  The thing was wiped 
>>> with fresh install of 10.6.3.  I tried to migrate stuff over and update the 
>>> OS.  Update just locked it up, as it had done on my other macbooks.  It 
>>> would not allow me to install 10.7 from DVD, but manual update got to 
>>> 10.6.8 so the DVD did work.  Auto update on 10.7 farted and locked.  It did 
>>> not want to behave, so I just went with El Capitan.  Took all night to 
>>> install.
>>> 
>>> This thing is ugly.  Like ios.  Or winblows.  All flat and pastel. No lock 
>>> up so far.
>>> 
>>> clay
>> 
>> What is ugly?  the install or the GUI?
>> What is like ios?
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[MBZ] Who has an engine for a cheap 300SE with blown engine?


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5282101541.html

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap CD

English red??

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm guessing a repaint.  It looks like the car a woman I know was selling
> a few years ago, she and her husband had lots of diesels and had a CD for
> awhile then decided to sell it.  They had done some work on it, not sure if
> they had it repainted or not but it did look like a respray, same color as
> this one and too shiny too.  But they did come in red I think, I have seen
> others around.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/10/15 5:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> On November 10, 2015 at 5:22 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5299313187.html
>>>
>> Is that a real color or a repaint?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I smoked crack and meth then shooted up some heroin then posted this car on CL



> On November 10, 2015 at 6:04 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow that is a lot of drug use

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/11/oklahoma-woman-plows-car-into-cop-car-and-says-im-god-bitch/

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Re: [MBZ] OT cider

There's an awesome apple tree in my front yard planted by a PO in 1982.

Tree is not much to look at but the fruits are numerous and totally free of
disease, although they look mottled and streaked red/black.  Taste is
tart-sweet, crisp skin, small sized. I went to applename.com and it seems
to be a Virginia winesap.  I made applesauce on the stove (cored but
unpeeled) and then blended it in the Blendtec - voila - pink applesauce.
:)  Also, some apple-mint jelly that has deep flavor and is quite unusual
(not sure I like it).

The winesap is not supposed to be self fruitful but my tree has nothing to
pollinate it yet was lousy with fruit.

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> Cool story. http://theweek.com/articles/587314/hunt-1-billion-apple
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz $500


Mercedes Benz
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5309425392.html



How come you didn't go get it for Okie Ache rs?

The guy definitely gets a photo award for bad.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz $500

I might go look at it

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>> Mercedes Benz
>> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5309425392.html
> 
> How come you didn't go get it for Okie Ache rs?
> 
> The guy definitely gets a photo award for bad.
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Re: [MBZ] OT cider


There's an awesome apple tree in my front yard planted by a PO in 1982.

Tree is not much to look at but the fruits are numerous and totally free of
disease, although they look mottled and streaked red/black.  Taste is
tart-sweet, crisp skin, small sized. I went to applename.com and it seems
to be a Virginia winesap.  I made applesauce on the stove (cored but
unpeeled) and then blended it in the Blendtec - voila - pink applesauce.
:)  Also, some apple-mint jelly that has deep flavor and is quite unusual
(not sure I like it).

The winesap is not supposed to be self fruitful but my tree has nothing to
pollinate it yet was lousy with fruit.


Red Winesap is one of the older varieties, tracing back to Yurp as 
sops of wine.  It is a hardy variety that will survive with little or 
no care/spray.  They will tend to have a lot of apples if not 
thinned.  There may be enough pollinators around to do the job.  They 
don't have to be within sight.  Flowering crabs abound in suburbia, 
and will do the job.


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Re: [MBZ] OT cider

There is a flowering crab up the street a few hundred yards, come to think
of it.  Should I thin the fruit next season to get larger apples?

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> There's an awesome apple tree in my front yard planted by a PO in 1982.
>>
>> Tree is not much to look at but the fruits are numerous and totally free
>> of
>> disease, although they look mottled and streaked red/black.  Taste is
>> tart-sweet, crisp skin, small sized. I went to applename.com and it seems
>> to be a Virginia winesap.  I made applesauce on the stove (cored but
>> unpeeled) and then blended it in the Blendtec - voila - pink applesauce.
>> :)  Also, some apple-mint jelly that has deep flavor and is quite unusual
>> (not sure I like it).
>>
>> The winesap is not supposed to be self fruitful but my tree has nothing to
>> pollinate it yet was lousy with fruit.
>>
>
> Red Winesap is one of the older varieties, tracing back to Yurp as sops of
> wine.  It is a hardy variety that will survive with little or no
> care/spray.  They will tend to have a lot of apples if not thinned.  There
> may be enough pollinators around to do the job.  They don't have to be
> within sight.  Flowering crabs abound in suburbia, and will do the job.
>
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Re: [MBZ] El Capitan

Terminal is still there, and the underlying OS kernel is still 
readily accessible for those who wish to tinker or modify.


Dan



TO get the free download can you download and not install, or does it 
install on the machine you download from?


I'd like to get the copy, but I don't want to risk bricking an older 
machine if it goes south.  I want to sit on it a while to do more 
research on performance with old intel machines.


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[MBZ] Mercedes Benz $500



Mercedes Benz
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5309425392.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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[MBZ] OT cider

Cool story. http://theweek.com/articles/587314/hunt-1-billion-apple

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