Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
I’ll address this later this morning when I have a minute. In the meantime, can you be a little more specific about the exact problem(s) he’s having? You haven’t really told us a lot. Dan > On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > W140 windows are computer operated. Which sucks if you have a bad motor > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
I’ll get the number off my invoice this afternoon when I get home. I think the price was $167 with my discount putting it around $133. Standard MB AGM Group 49 battery, nothing unusual. Dan > On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:16 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: >> > > Part number? Online sources say NLA > > > Advance has raised prices a lot! $175 less 20% is still about 140. +$20 core > > Wally mert is $123 +$20 core > > Amazon $153 > > O'really $143 +$18 core > > Anyone finding better prices? > > Commodities are way down. Batteries up? obummer banned lead mining. epa > closed most battery plants. What is the latest reason? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
Autozone is pretty close to Advance - $40 coupon these days. Mitch > On February 29, 2016 at 2:16 AM Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > >Just checked with my dealer on a battery for the 350SDL. $133 > >exchange. WallyWorld can't beat that! > > > >Dan > > Part number? Online sources say NLA > > > Advance has raised prices a lot! $175 less 20% is still about 140. > +$20 core > > Wally mert is $123 +$20 core > > Amazon $153 > > O'really $143 +$18 core > > Anyone finding better prices? > > Commodities are way down. Batteries up? obummer banned lead > mining. epa closed most battery plants. What is the latest reason? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
Your posts are a stream of consciousness rather that a clearly defined list of issues. Can you give us specifics? Model year would help, too, as the interior systems went through a number of running production/design changes. Despite having the biodegradable harness, failures in the interior portions of the wiring are really rare. It typically fails where it's exposed to heat, such as the engine compartment. I have never seen an interior harness fail on one of these. In the W140, window operation is controlled by the convenience module, which,,if memory serves me correctly, is located in the trunk on the right side. Failures of the convenience module affect all windows, so if the problems are related to one or two and not all, it's unlikely to be the problem. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:14 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > This is a long distance mystery diagnosis/fix. > > #1 boy has his 300SE in ND with windows that are misbehaving. Erratic > weather at the moment, so he is unwilling to dive in until deeper into > Spring. I have been able to figure out the switches are good. When it is > unzipped, we will know if the motor, regulator, or some wee part is making > the window unhappy. > > Dan, since you have vast knowledge of the W140 series. What are the most > probable causes that you have found? Kid is hoping it is a simple Dorman > part instead of needing to dig deep into the EPC. Maybe Kaleb has window > motors that he will part with, or should we look at just replacing the motor > and using original gearing? > > Child is now investing far too much in heavy weaponry because he thinks a > wire harness is thousands of $$$. Is this a realistic view, or can a fresh > Delco harness be found for a few hundred? He had pulled a harness out of a > 93 SE, but cut it short of the computer end. Are they even compatible? > > > clay > > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
Check out PepBoys for a group 49 battery. Unless my eyes are going bad, my local store has Bosch for $121 or $129, can't remember for positive. The last one I got was $109 and the one before was $99. In my two old 617s which aren't driven enough they sometimes don't last 3 years, but the good news is that the warranty replaces them or most of the cost. In the past I used Interstate, but I've come to be satisfied with the Bosch. Just some info Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 lust
Never heard of this show Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:21 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Judd Apatow show on Netflix, Love, has a K'leb loving car. Green with camel > 300D that the dame actress drives. I sort of got aroused seeing it driving > around L.A. and looking so hot. > > clay > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
In the W140, window operation is controlled by the convenience module, which,,if memory serves me correctly, is located in the trunk on the right side. Failures of the convenience module affect all windows, so if the problems are related to one or two and not all, it's unlikely to be the problem. Dan That makes some of us long for the days when fixing a window was replacing a plastic slide, a regulator made of steel, or a handle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
Check out PepBoys for a group 49 battery. Unless my eyes are going bad, my local store has Bosch for $121 or $129, can't remember for positive. The last one I got was $109 and the one before was $99. In my two old 617s which aren't driven enough they sometimes don't last 3 years, but the good news is that the warranty replaces them or most of the cost. In the past I used Interstate, but I've come to be satisfied with the Bosch. Just some info Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com the boys ran out of pep before they got west of the appalachians. I did see one item they were selling on fleabay. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Your jump starter
http://deals.kinja.com/ankers-new-car-jump-starting-battery-pack-is-no-bigger-1761917170 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Welding tips
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Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:30:04 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 14:06:46 + (UTC) rogerhga--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Check out PepBoys for a group 49 battery. Unless my eyes are going bad, > my local store has Bosch for $121 or $129, can't remember for positive. > >Check out PepBoys for a group 49 battery. Unless my eyes are going > >bad, my local store has Bosch for $121 or $129, can't remember for > >positive. > > the boys ran out of pep before they got west of the appalachians. We have PepBoys here in New Mexico. The deal Roger got is the one I used to buy a new battery for our '95 E320. A list of their stores is at http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepboys/storelist.html Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
Last time I bought a battery nobody knew what a Group 49 was, the code was H8. The Jetta has IIRC a Group 47, I paid $125 at my local Car Quest 3 years ago, was way cheaper than anywhere else, although I don't do Wally-Mart. Sadly Car Quest has become Advance and the quality of the counter help has already started to suffer. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries I’ll get the number off my invoice this afternoon when I get home. I think the price was $167 with my discount putting it around $133. Standard MB AGM Group 49 battery, nothing unusual. Dan > On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:16 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: >> > > Part number? Online sources say NLA > > > Advance has raised prices a lot! $175 less 20% is still about 140. +$20 core > > Wally mert is $123 +$20 core > > Amazon $153 > > O'really $143 +$18 core > > Anyone finding better prices? > > Commodities are way down. Batteries up? obummer banned lead mining. epa > closed most battery plants. What is the latest reason? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Your jump starter
I think they're stretching the bounds of reality here, a 12ah battery pack isn't going to start many really dead batteries very often or at all. I also have doubts they can really pull 400a peak current over those weenie little cables. I've got a good set of 6ga jumper cables and if the car being jumped has a really dead battery they get really hot in use. The truth is for a jump pack nothing beats size and capacity. The battery in the Jetta is smaller than a Group 49, Group 47 I think and is rated at 70ah, its hard to believe something 1/6th the size would have much of a chance, especially if it was cold out at all. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] Your jump starter http://deals.kinja.com/ankers-new-car-jump-starting-battery-pack-is-no-bigger-1761917170 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I want this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9S9ge4IzTs http://www.tenhoope.net/4sale.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line
The new era of hand build MBs is coming: http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line/ar-BBpYcTm?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=edgsp -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And one shows up much closer to poos
Looks a little rough on the edges, although the white/gray combo is ideal for FL. On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-SDL-/272149015604?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f5d586c34:g:qe4AAOSwQYZW0jhU&item=272149015604 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 lust
I can't understand what Netflix has to do with cable TV. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Never heard of this show > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:21 AM, clay via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Judd Apatow show on Netflix, Love, has a K'leb loving car. Green with > camel 300D that the dame actress drives. I sort of got aroused seeing it > driving around L.A. and looking so hot. > > > > clay > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I want this
Of course you do - who wouldn't? Is it for sale? On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9S9ge4IzTs > > http://www.tenhoope.net/4sale.html > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line
This is quite counterintuitive, and I would argue that in a few years humans will again be in shorter supply on the assembly lines as robots gain sophistication... On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:21 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > The new era of hand build MBs is coming: > > > http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line/ar-BBpYcTm?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=edgsp > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
I never really figured out the "difference" between 49, 93, and H8, although 93 often has lower CCA and H8 often has higher price. The AGM batteries at FLAPS are usually labeled H8. If I don't see a 49 on the shelf, I look for a 93 or H8. Mitch.On February 29, 2016 at 11:04 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:Last time I bought a battery nobody knew what a Group 49 was, the code was H8. The Jetta has IIRC a Group 47, I paid $125 at my local Car Quest 3 years ago, was way cheaper than anywhere else, although I don't do Wally-Mart. Sadly Car Quest has become Advance and the quality of the counter help has already started to suffer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line
Yeah that article is lame, computers do a way better job dealing with customization than people, anybody who has every ordered a "bacon and egg, no cheese" knows that the people work on auto pilot. One time I got cheese on my sandwich TWICE and she was going for a third when I yelled repeatedly "no cheese dammit!" If their robots can't deal with customization it means the programming sucks, not the robots... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line This is quite counterintuitive, and I would argue that in a few years humans will again be in shorter supply on the assembly lines as robots gain sophistication... On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:21 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > The new era of hand build MBs is coming: > > > http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line/ar-BBpYcTm?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=edgsp > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
The day they swear in The Donald. The idiots got themselves a man of color, they may as well put a fascist in for two terms clay On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > I only said that the Saudi situation was not sustainable. But for fun, why > don't you give us a Drop Dead date for the USA? > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Andrew writes: >> >>> Unsustainble. >> >> (in reference to Saudi give away programs) >> >> And a debt of $20,000,000,000,000.00 >> With deficit spending of >> $1,000,000,000,000.00 >> IS sustainable? >> >> You must be a Dick (deficits don't matter) Cheney fan... >> >> Rick >> Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 >> Original Message >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And one shows up much closer to poos
I am very tempted clay On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-SDL-/272149015604?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f5d586c34:g:qe4AAOSwQYZW0jhU&item=272149015604 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
Last I dealt with the car was in June. At that time the driver window was not moving consistently when the switch was used. Pulled the door card and I forget what we did for the solution. May have come off the rail. Rear windows do not go up and down regularly now. There seems to be noise when the switch is applied. Kid is not disclosing much other than he does not want to try the window in case it gets stuck open in -40 weather. clay On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I’ll address this later this morning when I have a minute. > > In the meantime, can you be a little more specific about the exact problem(s) > he’s having? You haven’t really told us a lot. > > Dan > > >> On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> W140 windows are computer operated. Which sucks if you have a bad motor >> >> Peter >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
David Duke will be his Sec. of Hate. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:22 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > The day they swear in The Donald. > > The idiots got themselves a man of color, they may as well put a fascist > in for two terms > > clay > > On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > > I only said that the Saudi situation was not sustainable. But for fun, > why > > don't you give us a Drop Dead date for the USA? > > > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Andrew writes: > >> > >>> Unsustainble. > >> > >> (in reference to Saudi give away programs) > >> > >> And a debt of $20,000,000,000,000.00 > >> With deficit spending of > >> $1,000,000,000,000.00 > >> IS sustainable? > >> > >> You must be a Dick (deficits don't matter) Cheney fan... > >> > >> Rick > >> Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 > >> Original Message > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And one shows up much closer to poos
My experiences has been if the details are bad or imply heavy/careless use(bumper scuffs, bad radio, inoperative antenna, torn driver's seat) that means the larger maintenance issues have probably poorly addressed as well. Might be worth a test drive but I bet there will be a bunch of issues ... On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:25 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > I am very tempted > > clay > > > On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-SDL-/272149015604?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f5d586c34:g:qe4AAOSwQYZW0jhU&item=272149015604 > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
Could just be they are frozen no? I've had lots of vehicles that had troubles with windows in freezing cold temps that went away when it was warmer. Could be also he ran or tried to run a window down when it was real cold out and bent/broke something while the window was frozen... -Curt From: clay via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: clay Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes Last I dealt with the car was in June. At that time the driver window was not moving consistently when the switch was used. Pulled the door card and I forget what we did for the solution. May have come off the rail. Rear windows do not go up and down regularly now. There seems to be noise when the switch is applied. Kid is not disclosing much other than he does not want to try the window in case it gets stuck open in -40 weather. clay On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I’ll address this later this morning when I have a minute. > > In the meantime, can you be a little more specific about the exact problem(s) > he’s having? You haven’t really told us a lot. > > Dan > > >> On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> W140 windows are computer operated. Which sucks if you have a bad motor >> >> Peter >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Multimeter
I think its high time for me to update to a good multimeter. I've got a radioschmuck analog meter thats served me well, I've also got a cheapo Harbor Freight one thats really crappy but is useful in environments where it might get damaged or stolen. I don't need much, DCV, ACV, and resistance are all I've ever used or know how to use I think. ACV is required on old snowmobiles with super simple electrics. I found a Fluke 101 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-101-Multimeter-Equipment-Industrial/dp/B00JT5RUUU/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1456767527&sr=8-10&keywords=flukewhich seems like all I'll ever need but with this I'm just being a brand shopper, I know Fluke is (was?) good and just buying based on that. I've got a couple Amazon gift cards so its the easy way to go. Thoughts? Looking for bang for the buck here, willing to spend up to about $100. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
Car is a 1992 300SE. Salvage title purchased from a PnP with shot transmission. Put transmission into it, CEL is on due to under hood wire insulation. Vacuum pump under the rear seat is non functional, so no auto lock. Sunroof does open and close, but is balky. Rear back up sticks are not working. I am not aware of any things living in the rear, other than the battery and the amp/antenna. Interior is stock. Seats work, Becker works, AC blows cold, heat is not a furnace, but good enough. I think he has 220k on it. Transmission went in at 203k. I am aware that the window glass is overly heavy and can lead to failure of the window motors or bending of the regulator. Other interior wiring has been shown to be in good condition. A Marshall Booth fuse ectomy was done. Only screwy thing is the wiper (I think #17) will function erratically. clay On Feb 29, 2016, at 4:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Your posts are a stream of consciousness rather that a clearly defined list > of issues. > > Can you give us specifics? Model year would help, too, as the interior > systems went through a number of running production/design changes. > > Despite having the biodegradable harness, failures in the interior portions > of the wiring are really rare. It typically fails where it's exposed to heat, > such as the engine compartment. I have never seen an interior harness fail > on one of these. > > In the W140, window operation is controlled by the convenience module, > which,,if memory serves me correctly, is located in the trunk on the right > side. Failures of the convenience module affect all windows, so if the > problems are related to one or two and not all, it's unlikely to be the > problem. > > Dan > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:14 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: >> >> This is a long distance mystery diagnosis/fix. >> >> #1 boy has his 300SE in ND with windows that are misbehaving. Erratic >> weather at the moment, so he is unwilling to dive in until deeper into >> Spring. I have been able to figure out the switches are good. When it is >> unzipped, we will know if the motor, regulator, or some wee part is making >> the window unhappy. >> >> Dan, since you have vast knowledge of the W140 series. What are the most >> probable causes that you have found? Kid is hoping it is a simple Dorman >> part instead of needing to dig deep into the EPC. Maybe Kaleb has window >> motors that he will part with, or should we look at just replacing the motor >> and using original gearing? >> >> Child is now investing far too much in heavy weaponry because he thinks a >> wire harness is thousands of $$$. Is this a realistic view, or can a fresh >> Delco harness be found for a few hundred? He had pulled a harness out of a >> 93 SE, but cut it short of the computer end. Are they even compatible? >> >> >> clay >> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
On 29/02/2016 11:31 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Last I dealt with the car was in June. At that time the driver window was not moving consistently when the switch was used. Pulled the door card and I forget what we did for the solution. May have come off the rail. Rear windows do not go up and down regularly now. There seems to be noise when the switch is applied. Kid is not disclosing much other than he does not want to try the window in case it gets stuck open in -40 weather. clay Where are they getting -40 F in ND? I am in Manitoba (just North of ND) and we have had little that has been much worse than -25 C. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 lust
Turned out I miss identified the age. 220D based on the steering wheel, tail lamps, and smoke while driving up a hill. Episode 2 takes place in and around the car. I would estimate value to be in the five figure range. clay On Feb 29, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Never heard of this show > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:21 AM, clay via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Judd Apatow show on Netflix, Love, has a K'leb loving car. Green with camel >> 300D that the dame actress drives. I sort of got aroused seeing it driving >> around L.A. and looking so hot. >> >> clay >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
Rear windows and front windows are completely different in their operation, I believe. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't had to deal with windows in a W140 sedan, other than the rear. Fronts, I believe, are the typical "scissors" type of regulator. Rear windows use a cable and pulley setup that seems prone to fail by design. If the rear window(s) is/are acting up, he's best off to leave them alone. The most common failure I have seen usually involves the cable coming off the guide roller at the bottom or the roller itself breaking into pieces and the cable gets caught in the mechanism. Tell him to keep the windows up until summer. Based on the limited information, I don't think you have electrical issues, I think you have mechanical issues with the windows themselves. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:31 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Last I dealt with the car was in June. At that time the driver window was > not moving consistently when the switch was used. Pulled the door card and I > forget what we did for the solution. May have come off the rail. > > Rear windows do not go up and down regularly now. There seems to be noise > when the switch is applied. Kid is not disclosing much other than he does > not want to try the window in case it gets stuck open in -40 weather > > clay > > > >> On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> >> I’ll address this later this morning when I have a minute. >> >> In the meantime, can you be a little more specific about the exact >> problem(s) he’s having? You haven’t really told us a lot. >> >> Dan >> >> >>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> W140 windows are computer operated. Which sucks if you have a bad motor >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
Curt, That model lacks the ability to measure DC current, which is useful when you are diagnosing a current drain that is killing the battery. Other than that, a good meter. The price looks amazing. It does measure capacitance, which mine does not, which could be useful at times. If one of your cheapo meters can measure current, maybe you don't need that function. I think I have a Fluke 77? It is meant for automotive work, came in a nice protective case with a kick-stand and with alligator clip adapters for the test leads. I had to shop around a bit to find a place that sold it for a decent price. For most things I use the cheapo Hazard Fraught meters, I keep one in each car, and they are good enough for basic diagnosis. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think its high time for me to update to a good multimeter. I've got a > radioschmuck analog meter thats served me well, I've also got a cheapo > Harbor Freight one thats really crappy but is useful in environments where > it might get damaged or stolen. > I don't need much, DCV, ACV, and resistance are all I've ever used or know > how to use I think. ACV is required on old snowmobiles with super simple > electrics. > I found a Fluke 101 on Amazon > http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-101-Multimeter-Equipment-Industrial/dp/B00JT5RUUU/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1456767527&sr=8-10&keywords=flukewhich > seems like all I'll ever need but with this I'm just being a brand shopper, > I know Fluke is (was?) good and just buying based on that. I've got a > couple Amazon gift cards so its the easy way to go. > Thoughts? Looking for bang for the buck here, willing to spend up to about > $100. > -Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
Will he be using his own email server to send around highly-classified information? --R On 2/29/16 12:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: David Duke will be his Sec. of Hate. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:22 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: The day they swear in The Donald. The idiots got themselves a man of color, they may as well put a fascist in for two terms clay On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I only said that the Saudi situation was not sustainable. But for fun, why don't you give us a Drop Dead date for the USA? On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Andrew writes: Unsustainble. (in reference to Saudi give away programs) And a debt of $20,000,000,000,000.00 With deficit spending of $1,000,000,000,000.00 IS sustainable? You must be a Dick (deficits don't matter) Cheney fan... Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Original Message ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:28:24 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I think I have a Fluke 77? It is meant for automotive work, came in a > nice protective case with a kick-stand and with alligator clip adapters > for the test leads. I had to shop around a bit to find a place that > sold it for a decent price. I have a Fluke 77 I bought in the mid-80s from W.W. Grainger (Hewlett-Packard employees got the HP discount when they purchased from Grainger). I had had a cheap digital multimeter, but had tried to measure the voltage of a 12 V car battery with it set on current. That mistake destroyed the meter. I did the same thing helping a friend with his John Deere tractor (trying to measure voltage with the meter set on current) with the Fluke. This system had two batteries in series for 24 V, but the Fluke survived the mistake. > For most things I use the cheapo Hazard Fraught meters, I keep one in > each car, and they are good enough for basic diagnosis. I have a cheap meter I inherited from my father, but both it and my Fluke are currently where I cannot get to them. Maybe I should get one from Harbor Freight on one of their specials since we are so close to the Albuquerque store. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
On of the advantages of the cheap Chinee meters is that should you smoke it or lose it, no big deal. If I did that to a Fluke I would be really upset. I have some CTs I use for measuring current, which I prefer over putting a meter inline, unless it's a fairly low value. Most meters won tolerate over current well, which often toasts them. I also have my trusty Amprobe with some nice accessories that allow me to measure current on a standard line cord, too. There's something really attractive about the Amprobe. It's certainly a retro sort of device, but they're well built, accurate, and pretty bulletproof. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:28:24 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I think I have a Fluke 77? It is meant for automotive work, came in a >> nice protective case with a kick-stand and with alligator clip adapters >> for the test leads. I had to shop around a bit to find a place that >> sold it for a decent price. > > I have a Fluke 77 I bought in the mid-80s from W.W. Grainger > (Hewlett-Packard employees got the HP discount when they purchased from > Grainger). > > I had had a cheap digital multimeter, but had tried to measure the > voltage of a 12 V car battery with it set on current. That mistake > destroyed the meter. > > I did the same thing helping a friend with his John Deere tractor (trying > to measure voltage with the meter set on current) with the Fluke. This > system had two batteries in series for 24 V, but the Fluke survived the > mistake. > > >> For most things I use the cheapo Hazard Fraught meters, I keep one in >> each car, and they are good enough for basic diagnosis. > > I have a cheap meter I inherited from my father, but both it and my Fluke > are currently where I cannot get to them. Maybe I should get one from > Harbor Freight on one of their specials since we are so close to the > Albuquerque store. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
Ahh good catch, thought I might have forgotten something. Looks like thats nearly a $300 meter on Amazon, theres one on NH Craigslist for $50 which seems like a sweet deal. That one is series 2, the one on Amazon appears to be series 4. Not sure if that matters, I doubt it.That one is pretty far away, theres another much closer but no model number. I'll email and ask... The worst is that years ago an employer got rid of a whole bunch of meters. I could have had one but found out only after they were gone... -Curt From: Meade Dillon To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter Curt, That model lacks the ability to measure DC current, which is useful when you are diagnosing a current drain that is killing the battery. Other than that, a good meter. The price looks amazing. It does measure capacitance, which mine does not, which could be useful at times. If one of your cheapo meters can measure current, maybe you don't need that function. I think I have a Fluke 77? It is meant for automotive work, came in a nice protective case with a kick-stand and with alligator clip adapters for the test leads. I had to shop around a bit to find a place that sold it for a decent price. For most things I use the cheapo Hazard Fraught meters, I keep one in each car, and they are good enough for basic diagnosis. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I think its high time for me to update to a good multimeter. I've got a radioschmuck analog meter thats served me well, I've also got a cheapo Harbor Freight one thats really crappy but is useful in environments where it might get damaged or stolen. I don't need much, DCV, ACV, and resistance are all I've ever used or know how to use I think. ACV is required on old snowmobiles with super simple electrics. I found a Fluke 101 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-101-Multimeter-Equipment-Industrial/dp/B00JT5RUUU/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1456767527&sr=8-10&keywords=flukewhich seems like all I'll ever need but with this I'm just being a brand shopper, I know Fluke is (was?) good and just buying based on that. I've got a couple Amazon gift cards so its the easy way to go. Thoughts? Looking for bang for the buck here, willing to spend up to about $100. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
I think all his communications are conducted after dark, illuminated by torchlights. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Will he be using his own email server to send around highly-classified > information? > > --R > > On 2/29/16 12:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> David Duke will be his Sec. of Hate. >> >> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:22 PM, clay via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> The day they swear in The Donald. >>> >>> The idiots got themselves a man of color, they may as well put a fascist >>> in for two terms >>> >>> clay >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I only said that the Saudi situation was not sustainable. But for fun, >>> why >>> don't you give us a Drop Dead date for the USA? On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Andrew writes: > > Unsustainble. >> > (in reference to Saudi give away programs) > > And a debt of $20,000,000,000,000.00 > With deficit spending of > $1,000,000,000,000.00 > IS sustainable? > > You must be a Dick (deficits don't matter) Cheney fan... > > Rick > Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 > Original Message > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I need more oxy
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5469801632.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
On my last active duty job, an electrician left a bunch of tools behind after installing some new circuits. There was a really nice Fluke and a big tool box full of goodies, and a nice step ladder. I contacted the company he worked for and asked them to send someone to pick up the tools. Repeated the request a couple days later. Several weeks went by and tools were still waiting. I called and said if they weren't gone by the end of the week, I was going to keep them. I was truly hoping they wouldn't pick them up, but the next day someone finally got them. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
I bought an Extech EX330 a while back and have been happy with the quality and repeatability of the readings. I think I paid about $40. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter I think its high time for me to update to a good multimeter. I've got a radioschmuck analog meter thats served me well, I've also got a cheapo Harbor Freight one thats really crappy but is useful in environments where it might get damaged or stolen. I don't need much, DCV, ACV, and resistance are all I've ever used or know how to use I think. ACV is required on old snowmobiles with super simple electrics. I found a Fluke 101 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-101-Multimeter-Equipment-Industrial/dp/B00JT5RUUU/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1456767527&sr=8-10&keywords=flukewhich seems like all I'll ever need but with this I'm just being a brand shopper, I know Fluke is (was?) good and just buying based on that. I've got a couple Amazon gift cards so its the easy way to go. Thoughts? Looking for bang for the buck here, willing to spend up to about $100. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
Is it possible you only blew the fuse when you "fried" those meters? Even my cheapie meters had a fuse for overcurrent protection. And I had to replace that fuse a few times too > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Craig via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:41 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Craig > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter > > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:28:24 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I think I have a Fluke 77? It is meant for automotive work, came in a > > nice protective case with a kick-stand and with alligator clip > > adapters for the test leads. I had to shop around a bit to find a > > place that sold it for a decent price. > > I have a Fluke 77 I bought in the mid-80s from W.W. Grainger (Hewlett- > Packard employees got the HP discount when they purchased from Grainger). > > I had had a cheap digital multimeter, but had tried to measure the voltage of > a 12 V car battery with it set on current. That mistake destroyed the meter. > > I did the same thing helping a friend with his John Deere tractor (trying to > measure voltage with the meter set on current) with the Fluke. This system > had two batteries in series for 24 V, but the Fluke survived the mistake. > > > > For most things I use the cheapo Hazard Fraught meters, I keep one in > > each car, and they are good enough for basic diagnosis. > > I have a cheap meter I inherited from my father, but both it and my Fluke are > currently where I cannot get to them. Maybe I should get one from Harbor > Freight on one of their specials since we are so close to the Albuquerque > store. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:21:57 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > Is it possible you only blew the fuse when you "fried" those meters? > Even my cheapie meters had a fuse for overcurrent protection. And I > had to replace that fuse a few times too No, being an EE at the time, I checked it out -- it was destroyed. Craig > > I had had a cheap digital multimeter, but had tried to measure the > > voltage of a 12 V car battery with it set on current. That mistake > > destroyed the meter. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake Light Sockets - W123/W126
Anybody got a couple of lamp sockets for the brake bulbs on a W123 or W126? I want to convert my fog light positions to brake lights, and I need a couple of the sockets. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
Most cheap meters use a shunt for measuring current, and when it gets zapped, the meter is toast. The meter I’ve had since the late 1980s is an Extech. Bought it as a cheap traveling meter that had frequency, something that was not common on cheap meters of the day. Very important for generator work... Dan > On Feb 29, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:21:57 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Is it possible you only blew the fuse when you "fried" those meters? >> Even my cheapie meters had a fuse for overcurrent protection. And I >> had to replace that fuse a few times too > > No, being an EE at the time, I checked it out -- it was destroyed. > > > Craig > >>> I had had a cheap digital multimeter, but had tried to measure the >>> voltage of a 12 V car battery with it set on current. That mistake >>> destroyed the meter. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Light Sockets - W123/W126
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:48:46 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Anybody got a couple of lamp sockets for the brake bulbs on a W123 or > W126? > > I want to convert my fog light positions to brake lights, and I need a > couple of the sockets. I did that on our '82 240D/3.0. Sorry, I don't have any sockets. If, in looking for car parts, I run across some, I'll snag them for you. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need more oxy
Thank goodness the alternate has been replaced. Don’t want a bad one leaving you stranded. Dan > On Feb 29, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5469801632.html > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:55:45 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Most cheap meters use a shunt for measuring current, and when it gets > zapped, the meter is toast. Yup. > The meter I’ve had since the late 1980s is an Extech. Bought it as a > cheap traveling meter that had frequency, something that was not common > on cheap meters of the day. > > Very important for generator work... Indeed. I built an analog frequency meter when we were living off-grid to display the generator's frequency. A large analog meter, a 555 wired as a single-shot multivibrator, a step down transformer to provide the AC signal, and a bridge rectifier, filter cap, and a three-terminal regulator to provide the DC. It still works very well. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Light Sockets - W123/W126
Kaleb sent me a rear lamp assembly (just the inner part) years ago for that; I converted rear fogs on my 123, 124 and 126 to additional TAIL lights, cause I want more light there ALL the time. MB factory tail lights are WIMPY. I'll try to see if I have any more sockets; 'think I may have finally pitched what was left. I think 123 and 126 are alike; 124 different. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] Brake Light Sockets - W123/W126 Anybody got a couple of lamp sockets for the brake bulbs on a W123 or W126? I want to convert my fog light positions to brake lights, and I need a couple of the sockets. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Light Sockets - W123/W126
Thanks, Craig. That is correct, Wilton. W123 and W126 are interchangeable. W124 are not. Sadly, there was a guy selling a kit on eBay a while back with everything you needed for like $14, but he’s no longer doing this. Certainly the parts were cheaper than that, but the convenience factor kicks in when you don’t have a knackers in town that has cars older than about 5-7 years, like me. Dan > On Feb 29, 2016, at 6:04 PM, WILTON via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb sent me a rear lamp assembly (just the inner part) years ago for that; > I converted rear fogs on my 123, 124 and 126 to additional TAIL lights, cause > I want more light there ALL the time. MB factory tail lights are WIMPY. > I'll try to see if I have any more sockets; 'think I may have finally pitched > what was left. I think 123 and 126 are alike; 124 different. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > > To: "Mercedes List" > Cc: "Dan Penoff" > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:48 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Brake Light Sockets - W123/W126 > > >> Anybody got a couple of lamp sockets for the brake bulbs on a W123 or W126? >> >> I want to convert my fog light positions to brake lights, and I need a >> couple of the sockets. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
That is possible, but I think things were going south before it got very cold. Car does park outside 24/7 clay On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Could just be they are frozen no? > I've had lots of vehicles that had troubles with windows in freezing cold > temps that went away when it was warmer. > Could be also he ran or tried to run a window down when it was real cold out > and bent/broke something while the window was frozen... > -Curt > > From: clay via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: clay > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes > > Last I dealt with the car was in June. At that time the driver window was > not moving consistently when the switch was used. Pulled the door card and I > forget what we did for the solution. May have come off the rail. > > Rear windows do not go up and down regularly now. There seems to be noise > when the switch is applied. Kid is not disclosing much other than he does > not want to try the window in case it gets stuck open in -40 weather. > > clay > > > > On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > >> I’ll address this later this morning when I have a minute. >> >> In the meantime, can you be a little more specific about the exact >> problem(s) he’s having? You haven’t really told us a lot. >> >> Dan >> >> >>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> W140 windows are computer operated. Which sucks if you have a bad motor >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 winder woes
I am not clear on his weather woes. I take what he tells me as true clay On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > On 29/02/2016 11:31 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote: >> Last I dealt with the car was in June. At that time the driver window was >> not moving consistently when the switch was used. Pulled the door card and >> I forget what we did for the solution. May have come off the rail. >> >> Rear windows do not go up and down regularly now. There seems to be noise >> when the switch is applied. Kid is not disclosing much other than he does >> not want to try the window in case it gets stuck open in -40 weather. >> >> clay >> >> >> > Where are they getting -40 F in ND? > I am in Manitoba (just North of ND) and we have had little that has been > much worse than -25 C. > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I want this
Andrew wrote: > Is it for sale? 100k euro mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line
Read the article. Its about making better use of changing technology. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah that article is lame, computers do a way better job dealing with > customization than people, anybody who has every ordered a "bacon and egg, > no cheese" knows that the people work on auto pilot. One time I got cheese > on my sandwich TWICE and she was going for a third when I yelled repeatedly > "no cheese dammit!" > If their robots can't deal with customization it means the programming > sucks, not the robots... > -Curt > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:46 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production > line > > This is quite counterintuitive, and I would argue that in a few years > humans will again be in shorter supply on the assembly lines as robots gain > sophistication... > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:21 AM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > wrote: > > > The new era of hand build MBs is coming: > > > > > > > http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line/ar-BBpYcTm?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=edgsp > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line
I did read the article. It suggested that somehow people could do repetative jobs with mixed changes better than machines. I'm just not sure I believe it. I think somebody's got a bad automation system that they're managing some good press out of... -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line Read the article. Its about making better use of changing technology. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Yeah that article is lame, computers do a way better job dealing with customization than people, anybody who has every ordered a "bacon and egg, no cheese" knows that the people work on auto pilot. One time I got cheese on my sandwich TWICE and she was going for a third when I yelled repeatedly "no cheese dammit!" If their robots can't deal with customization it means the programming sucks, not the robots... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line This is quite counterintuitive, and I would argue that in a few years humans will again be in shorter supply on the assembly lines as robots gain sophistication... On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:21 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > The new era of hand build MBs is coming: > > > http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line/ar-BBpYcTm?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=edgsp > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinskihttp://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Group 49 Battery
Just saw that PeachParts has a Bosch Premium for $127 + $20 core. Looks like shipping from CA to SC is about $9. I could turn in the old battery for $15 or $20 at the local metal recycler, and avoid the shipping charge to get the $20 core charge back. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:30:04 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 14:06:46 + (UTC) rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote: Check out PepBoys for a group 49 battery. Unless my eyes are going bad, my local store has Bosch for $121 or $129, can't remember for positive. >Check out PepBoys for a group 49 battery. Unless my eyes are going >bad, my local store has Bosch for $121 or $129, can't remember for >positive. the boys ran out of pep before they got west of the appalachians. We have PepBoys here in New Mexico. The deal Roger got is the one I used to buy a new battery for our '95 E320. A list of their stores is at http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepboys/storelist.html Craig YEAH, I priced one today. It was $175 or $195 for AGP ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Your jump starter
I think they're stretching the bounds of reality here, a 12ah battery pack isn't going to start many really dead batteries very often or at all. I also have doubts they can really pull 400a peak current over those weenie little cables. I've got a good set of 6ga jumper cables and if the car being jumped has a really dead battery they get really hot in use. The truth is for a jump pack nothing beats size and capacity. The battery in the Jetta is smaller than a Group 49, Group 47 I think and is rated at 70ah, its hard to believe something 1/6th the size would have much of a chance, especially if it was cold out at all. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] Your jump starter http://deals.kinja.com/ankers-new-car-jump-starting-battery-pack-is-no-bigger-1761917170 --R I was thinking about asking them for a sample so I could test it and report the results here, MBCA and BMWMOA. I'm thinking it might start an R75/5 once, but no frickin' way it will start a 240D. Phizzicks is still Physics and Kem-mystery is still chemistry. Ain't no free lunch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Your jump starter
Mine will start several 300ds Sent from my iPhone On Feb 29, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> I think they're stretching the bounds of reality here, a 12ah battery pack >> isn't going to start many really dead batteries very often or at all. I also >> have doubts they can really pull 400a peak current over those weenie little >> cables. I've got a good set of 6ga jumper cables and if the car being jumped >> has a really dead battery they get really hot in use. >> The truth is for a jump pack nothing beats size and capacity. The battery in >> the Jetta is smaller than a Group 49, Group 47 I think and is rated at 70ah, >> its hard to believe something 1/6th the size would have much of a chance, >> especially if it was cold out at all. >> -Curt >> >> From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Rich Thomas >> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:57 AM >> Subject: [MBZ] Your jump starter >> >> http://deals.kinja.com/ankers-new-car-jump-starting-battery-pack-is-no-bigger-1761917170 >> >> --R > > I was thinking about asking them for a sample so I could test it and report > the results here, MBCA and BMWMOA. I'm thinking it might start an R75/5 > once, but no frickin' way it will start a 240D. Phizzicks is still Physics > and Kem-mystery is still chemistry. Ain't no free lunch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is halting robots' reign on the production line
The new era of hand build MBs is coming: http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/why-mercedes-is-halting-robots-reign-on-the-production-line/ar-BBpYcTm?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=edgsp -- OK Don Translation: "we put in robots to get those !X@#^%$XX turks out of the plant. Now the goobers have turned the country over to the !X@#^%$XX$&*^% syrians and assorted s@&drats, and the goobers tell us we HAVE to make jobs for them somewhere. So MAYBE we can train them to put 4 matching valve caps on a set of tires! Out of 4 choices do you REALLY think they will get the right set on the right car?" 25% chance of them getting it right. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Batteries
I never really figured out the "difference" between 49, 93, and H8, although 93 often has lower CCA and H8 often has higher price. The AGM batteries at FLAPS are usually labeled H8. If I don't see a 49 on the shelf, I look for a 93 or H8. Mitch. And in my looking this week, I am also being shown "96" which I've not heard of before, but 93 seems to be out. 93 is a couple mm different in 1 or 2 dimensions, but fits fine. The last battery I bought was a 93. They were $25 to $50 cheaper than a 49, for no apparent reason. Both 93 and 49 were shown as "H8." I wonder if H8 is some yuro or ISO numbering system rather than the battery industry group sizes we are used to. now regardless of nomenclature they all seem to be $175 up. advance still have a 20% deal, but that is still $140 + $20 core and 7% tax., so near $180. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
The day they swear in The Donald. The idiots got themselves a man of color, they may as well put a fascist in for two terms clay My call is late July, 2017 or Aug, 2017. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
I think all his communications are conducted after dark, illuminated by torchlights. Just like that other much revered leader of the party that scams folks of the po and of the color variety, Senator BYRD. No member of the D party ever had to apologize for him or for endorsing him! Can you spell hypocrite? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
A fast glance at the bay of fleas shows Fluke 335 for $89 used. I use the ac, DC and ohmmeter functions regularly. I agree a HF will work for almost anything except GP diagnosis and perhpas the tach signal. I try to keep HF or cheap multimeters that came with A+ training kits in each car. Even with those, you can detect an open GP, the most common failure. It would be difficult, but perhaps not impossible to detect the difference between a good GP and a dead short with a cheapo meter. I have a radiojunk analog folding meter I bought in Kailua in 1989. Harry Fuller had one just like it and I used his and liked it. It was about $35 then. It could sort GPs better than anything until I got the fluke. BTW, Harry was a Pearl Harbor survivor, He was on Ford Island during the bombing and strafing. Curt, That model lacks the ability to measure DC current, which is useful when you are diagnosing a current drain that is killing the battery. Other than that, a good meter. The price looks amazing. It does measure capacitance, which mine does not, which could be useful at times. If one of your cheapo meters can measure current, maybe you don't need that function. I think I have a Fluke 77? It is meant for automotive work, came in a nice protective case with a kick-stand and with alligator clip adapters for the test leads. I had to shop around a bit to find a place that sold it for a decent price. For most things I use the cheapo Hazard Fraught meters, I keep one in each car, and they are good enough for basic diagnosis. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I think its high time for me to update to a good multimeter. I've got a radioschmuck analog meter thats served me well, I've also got a cheapo Harbor Freight one thats really crappy but is useful in environments where it might get damaged or stolen. I don't need much, DCV, ACV, and resistance are all I've ever used or know how to use I think. ACV is required on old snowmobiles with super simple electrics. I found a Fluke 101 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-101-Multimeter-Equipment-Industrial/dp/B00JT5RUUU/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1456767527&sr=8-10&keywords=flukewhich seems like all I'll ever need but with this I'm just being a brand shopper, I know Fluke is (was?) good and just buying based on that. I've got a couple Amazon gift cards so its the easy way to go. Thoughts? Looking for bang for the buck here, willing to spend up to about $100. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
Scott sez: Is it possible you only blew the fuse when you "fried" those meters? Even my cheapie meters had a fuse for overcurrent protection. And I had to replace that fuse a few times too That was one of the things i liked about that radiojunk meter. It not only had an easily accessible fuse, but carried a spare in the battery compartment too! I blew the fuse a couple times trying to measure volties without switching the meter back to volts from Ohms. I had a couple of cheap ones I fried that did not have fuses. Flukes are pretty hard to kill by doing dumb things. They are well built with lots of "buttsaver" circuits to keep it from blowing up when you do something stupid. I had a small toolbox analog meter I used for 20 years. It was intertec or inter something. I probably trouble shot more circuits with it than anything else. Dishwashers, washers, dryers, cars, household electric, control circuits, etc. It was good enough it could sort glow plugs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
Your point? That was 50 yrs. Ago. On Mar 1, 2016 12:11 AM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > I think all his communications are conducted after dark, illuminated by >> torchlights. >> > > Just like that other much revered leader of the party that scams folks of > the po and of the color variety, Senator BYRD. No member of the D party > ever had to apologize for him or for endorsing him! > > Can you spell hypocrite? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices, was: We should sell our 123s in Deutschland
Andy Sez: Your point? That was 50 yrs. Ago. 2010 was 50 years ago?My math says Sheets Byrd, the grand wizzer of the KKK was a (D) leader 6 years ago. Remember Michael Vick and the dog fights? Byrd gave a speechifying about that. I guess that was 50 years ago huh? Either that or he came back from the dead to speechify. My point? Read my last post. The hypocrisy on the (D) side is obvious. I realize that you are suggesting that Pillary should name Duke to the position of secretary of hate, but you still claim that the opposition is racist, while the (D) party and its candidates and incumbents are in fact the racists. That is hypocrisy. On Mar 1, 2016 12:11 AM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" wrote: I think all his communications are conducted after dark, illuminated by torchlights. Just like that other much revered leader of the party that scams folks of the po and of the color variety, Senator BYRD. No member of the D party ever had to apologize for him or for endorsing him! > Can you spell hypocrite? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 quality
http://artofgears.com/2016/02/25/this-1989-mercedes-benz-300e-has-over-80-miles/ nice! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Multimeter
Looking for bang for the buck here, willing to spend up to about $100. Love my Fluke 83. Have bought two Fluke 87's, used, under your price mark. The protective current fuse alone costs more than a HF meter on sale! But there's no contest. The 83 is what I reach for, year after year. (Digits are a bit larger than the 87, and the battery lasts longer on it.) The Fluke, with a clamp-on AC/DC ammeter, is all you need. The Flukes are many times faster at reading than the HF's, and have analog scales too for the jumpy stuff. (I prefer the 83's analog scale to the 87's.) The 87 is true RMS, and has a backlight, and one extra digit of precision. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
