Re: [MBZ] Turbo tune up

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Duh (slaps forehead)!  Why didn't I think of that.

> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:36 PM
> 
> You can also cut the rolled edge off the inlet of the U tube so you can see 
> the
> position of the seal.  It also allows you to put the seal on the turbo inlet 
> and
> then push the U tube over it to make sure it’s properly seated, too.
> 
> My 300D has this modification, which I had heard about but had never
> experienced.  Definitely makes it a lot easier, since that U tube is as hard 
> as a
> rock.  I’ve always wondered if the U tubes were any more flexible when new….
> 
> -D


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Re: [MBZ] I want

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1  Savage 24(+) it is better.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
March 12, 2017 at 8:22 PM
.410 is perfect for dispatching all manner of rodentia. Dad has a 
single barrel that is always my go-to. It has taken uncountable 
numbers of porcupine, squirrels, and partridge.

Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Gotcha. I've got one of those. However, I have an LED tester which is a lot 
less hassle.

Thanks!

-D

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> On Mar 12, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You should have a harness that goes to the mux that has 3 banana pins on the 
> end, you insert them into the holes depending on what system you are 
> checking. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:52 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What do you use for a connector?
>> 
>> I don't recall there being anything in my bunch of harnesses that would fit?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You know the xentry can read those too, much easier than the blinker tool
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yup.  16 pin socket.  Just got done dumping the codes from the 350SDL.  
 Going to look them up in a minute.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm assuming both cars babe the square 16 pin or however many pin 
> diagnostics socket usually over by the battery?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I want

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

.410 is perfect for dispatching all manner of rodentia. Dad has a single barrel 
that is always my go-to. It has taken uncountable numbers of porcupine, 
squirrels, and partridge.
Curt

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  On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:   I do have more success hitting the running bushy-tail tree rodents 
with the
.410. They don't sit still when I'm out anymore, YMMV.

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For hunting wascal wabbits as indicated in the pciture,, ditch the heavy
> rotary hardware in favor of a 22/410 over/under.  If you can't get the
> wabbit with one shot, go home.  (Same for bushy-tail tree rodents, only you
> don't need the 410 for that)
>
>> --
>>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You should have a harness that goes to the mux that has 3 banana pins on the 
end, you insert them into the holes depending on what system you are checking. 

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> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:52 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What do you use for a connector?
> 
> I don't recall there being anything in my bunch of harnesses that would fit?
> 
> -D
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You know the xentry can read those too, much easier than the blinker tool
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup.  16 pin socket.  Just got done dumping the codes from the 350SDL.  
>>> Going to look them up in a minute.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I'm assuming both cars babe the square 16 pin or however many pin 
 diagnostics socket usually over by the battery?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

What do you use for a connector?

I don't recall there being anything in my bunch of harnesses that would fit?

-D

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> On Mar 12, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You know the xentry can read those too, much easier than the blinker tool
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup.  16 pin socket.  Just got done dumping the codes from the 350SDL.  
>> Going to look them up in a minute.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm assuming both cars babe the square 16 pin or however many pin 
>>> diagnostics socket usually over by the battery?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You know the xentry can read those too, much easier than the blinker tool

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup.  16 pin socket.  Just got done dumping the codes from the 350SDL.  Going 
> to look them up in a minute.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm assuming both cars babe the square 16 pin or however many pin 
>> diagnostics socket usually over by the battery?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup.  16 pin socket.  Just got done dumping the codes from the 350SDL.  Going 
to look them up in a minute.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm assuming both cars babe the square 16 pin or however many pin diagnostics 
> socket usually over by the battery?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm assuming both cars babe the square 16 pin or however many pin diagnostics 
socket usually over by the battery?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup, I did some work on the 300SEL today…Low impact day today after all the 
> major gains yesterday.
> 
> After reading a thread on setting the duty cycle, I realized I have a tester 
> for the diagnostic codes that I had been using on my W140 cars before I got a 
> DAS/XENTRY system.
> 
> Went out and dumped codes on the 300SEL. Pretty much all stuff I figured I 
> would see based on it probably never having been cleared, or if it was, not 
> in many years. I'm going to drive it to work tomorrow, a good 40 mile round 
> trip about 50-50 highway/city and check it again when I get home to see if 
> any codes get thrown.
> 
> Went out this afternoon with a can of DeOxIt and a red straw. Popped the 
> buttons off the seat adjuster switches, gave them all a good shot of DeOxIt 
> and then worked the heck out of them. Some had been a little touchy as far as 
> working I had noticed, so I figured the switches probably needed a good 
> cleaning.
> 
> I'm going to go out a little later and put the code tester on my 1990 350SDL 
> and see what it has in the way of stored codes. Should be interesting…
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup, I did some work on the 300SEL today…Low impact day today after all the 
major gains yesterday.

After reading a thread on setting the duty cycle, I realized I have a tester 
for the diagnostic codes that I had been using on my W140 cars before I got a 
DAS/XENTRY system.

Went out and dumped codes on the 300SEL. Pretty much all stuff I figured I 
would see based on it probably never having been cleared, or if it was, not in 
many years. I'm going to drive it to work tomorrow, a good 40 mile round trip 
about 50-50 highway/city and check it again when I get home to see if any codes 
get thrown.

Went out this afternoon with a can of DeOxIt and a red straw. Popped the 
buttons off the seat adjuster switches, gave them all a good shot of DeOxIt and 
then worked the heck out of them. Some had been a little touchy as far as 
working I had noticed, so I figured the switches probably needed a good 
cleaning.

I'm going to go out a little later and put the code tester on my 1990 350SDL 
and see what it has in the way of stored codes. Should be interesting…

-D
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[MBZ] quiz

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tintin

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Re: [MBZ] Turbo tune up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Oh!  I finally figgered out you a re talking about an SD OM617.

On the SDL with OM603, it is a rubber "hose" with a hose clamp.  It can 
be a bit of a bugger from the top to get the hose and clamp in place on 
the bottom, but with the lower panel off under the engine, it is not hard.



Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
March 12, 2017 at 12:30 PM
Removing the plastic U tube (between air cleaner and turbo) is indeed easy
on a 126 Diesel. But the hard part (for me, anyway) was getting it back on
without "rolling" the lower rubber gasket. That gasket won't seal right if
it's out of position and you don't want to suck unfiltered air into the
turbo. The old gasket had swelled and gotten soft and was hard to install.
Eventually, I bought a new gasket which was firmer. This gasket is like a
big, thick rubber band.


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Re: [MBZ] Turbo tune up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You can also cut the rolled edge off the inlet of the U tube so you can see the 
position of the seal.  It also allows you to put the seal on the turbo inlet 
and then push the U tube over it to make sure it’s properly seated, too.

My 300D has this modification, which I had heard about but had never 
experienced.  Definitely makes it a lot easier, since that U tube is as hard as 
a rock.  I’ve always wondered if the U tubes were any more flexible when new….

-D


> On Mar 12, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Removing the plastic U tube (between air cleaner and turbo) is indeed easy
> on a 126 Diesel.  But the hard part (for me, anyway) was getting it back on
> without "rolling" the lower rubber gasket.  That gasket won't seal right if
> it's out of position and you don't want to suck unfiltered air into the
> turbo.  The old gasket had swelled and gotten soft and was hard to install.
> Eventually, I bought a new gasket which was firmer.  This gasket is like a
> big, thick rubber band.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Turbo tune up

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Removing the plastic U tube (between air cleaner and turbo) is indeed easy
on a 126 Diesel.  But the hard part (for me, anyway) was getting it back on
without "rolling" the lower rubber gasket.  That gasket won't seal right if
it's out of position and you don't want to suck unfiltered air into the
turbo.  The old gasket had swelled and gotten soft and was hard to install.
Eventually, I bought a new gasket which was firmer.  This gasket is like a
big, thick rubber band.

> -Original Message-
> From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> 
> Leak and turbo performance may be unrelated, do the test that Peter
> described.  Removing the intake rubber accordion duct is easy enough on
> a 124, can't be much worse on a 126, and see how she feels.  ..



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Re: [MBZ] I want

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I do have more success hitting the running bushy-tail tree rodents with the
.410. They don't sit still when I'm out anymore, YMMV.

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For hunting wascal wabbits as indicated in the pciture,, ditch the heavy
> rotary hardware in favor of a 22/410 over/under.  If you can't get the
> wabbit with one shot, go home.  (Same for bushy-tail tree rodents, only you
> don't need the 410 for that)
>
>> --
>>
>

OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

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SWMBA seems to be unable to distinguish between what she would tolerate,
and what would be not only tolerable, but likely best for the boy in the
long run in these situations.  I expect that we've got a few more fights on
the calendar before the boy actually hits the road.

You can't ever forget that the only real goal is preventing "Failure To
Launch".

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Re: [MBZ] HF Ball Joint Separator

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Yep.  Put the separator under tension so that the joint knows which way the
wind is blowing, then use the two hammers to get its attention.  Don't
remove the nut on the end first, just loosen it.  That'll keep it from
flying loose when it does let go.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Thanks, Manfred.
>
> I was brought up to back the knuckle up with one BFH, then hit the other
> side with a BFH to loosen.
>
> We’ll see….
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 2017, at 11:03 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > When you use the tool, tighten the separation bolt and then hit the
> steering knuckle right where the tie rod bolt goes through. That should pop
> it loose. If not tighten the bolt some more and hit again. A few good licks
> usually make it pop. Do the same with where the ball joint connects to the
> LCA. I've also found that using an air hammer on those points can work
> better, more vibration for less force.
> >
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Snagged one of these this morning.  Wife’s SL500 has a sloppy inner tie
> rod end and I have a new tie rod coming tomorrow, so it will be a good
> opportunity to try it out.  I have a pickle fork, but if I don’t have to
> beat on something to separate it, it’s all the better, I think.
> >> Drove the 300SEL this morning for my early morning grocery run and a
> later trip to HF.  Runs great, no issues.  I’ll probably drive it to work
> tomorrow to stretch its legs a bit.  I know the first tank of fuel will
> have sucky mileage since it’s spent a fair amount of time idling and
> running on five cylinders in the last week, but I really want to get a full
> tank through it to see how it’s doing.
> >> I need to get an analog voltmeter so I can set the duty cycle of the
> fuel system.  As I understand it, once these systems are set up properly
> they’ll even run pretty well in limp home mode.  Can’t beat that.  Here’s a
> really good writeup for setting duty cycle for the Bosch KE-Jetronic fuel
> system:
> >> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/
> 2720049-ke-jetronic-lambda-control-duty-cycle.html
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] HF Ball Joint Separator

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Manfred.

I was brought up to back the knuckle up with one BFH, then hit the other side 
with a BFH to loosen.

We’ll see….

-D



> On Mar 12, 2017, at 11:03 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> When you use the tool, tighten the separation bolt and then hit the steering 
> knuckle right where the tie rod bolt goes through. That should pop it loose. 
> If not tighten the bolt some more and hit again. A few good licks usually 
> make it pop. Do the same with where the ball joint connects to the LCA. I've 
> also found that using an air hammer on those points can work better, more 
> vibration for less force.
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Snagged one of these this morning.  Wife’s SL500 has a sloppy inner tie rod 
>> end and I have a new tie rod coming tomorrow, so it will be a good 
>> opportunity to try it out.  I have a pickle fork, but if I don’t have to 
>> beat on something to separate it, it’s all the better, I think.
>> Drove the 300SEL this morning for my early morning grocery run and a later 
>> trip to HF.  Runs great, no issues.  I’ll probably drive it to work tomorrow 
>> to stretch its legs a bit.  I know the first tank of fuel will have sucky 
>> mileage since it’s spent a fair amount of time idling and running on five 
>> cylinders in the last week, but I really want to get a full tank through it 
>> to see how it’s doing.
>> I need to get an analog voltmeter so I can set the duty cycle of the fuel 
>> system.  As I understand it, once these systems are set up properly they’ll 
>> even run pretty well in limp home mode.  Can’t beat that.  Here’s a really 
>> good writeup for setting duty cycle for the Bosch KE-Jetronic fuel system:
>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2720049-ke-jetronic-lambda-control-duty-cycle.html
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] HF Ball Joint Separator

[MG via Mercedes]

When you use the tool, tighten the separation bolt and then hit 
the steering knuckle right where the tie rod bolt goes through. 
That should pop it loose. If not tighten the bolt some more and 
hit again. A few good licks usually make it pop. Do the same with 
where the ball joint connects to the LCA. I've also found that 
using an air hammer on those points can work better, more 
vibration for less force.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Snagged one of these this morning.  Wife’s SL500 has a sloppy inner tie rod end 
and I have a new tie rod coming tomorrow, so it will be a good opportunity to 
try it out.  I have a pickle fork, but if I don’t have to beat on something to 
separate it, it’s all the better, I think.

Drove the 300SEL this morning for my early morning grocery run and a later trip 
to HF.  Runs great, no issues.  I’ll probably drive it to work tomorrow to 
stretch its legs a bit.  I know the first tank of fuel will have sucky mileage 
since it’s spent a fair amount of time idling and running on five cylinders in 
the last week, but I really want to get a full tank through it to see how it’s 
doing.

I need to get an analog voltmeter so I can set the duty cycle of the fuel 
system.  As I understand it, once these systems are set up properly they’ll 
even run pretty well in limp home mode.  Can’t beat that.  Here’s a really good 
writeup for setting duty cycle for the Bosch KE-Jetronic fuel system:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2720049-ke-jetronic-lambda-control-duty-cycle.html

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[MBZ] HF Ball Joint Separator

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Snagged one of these this morning.  Wife’s SL500 has a sloppy inner tie rod end 
and I have a new tie rod coming tomorrow, so it will be a good opportunity to 
try it out.  I have a pickle fork, but if I don’t have to beat on something to 
separate it, it’s all the better, I think.

Drove the 300SEL this morning for my early morning grocery run and a later trip 
to HF.  Runs great, no issues.  I’ll probably drive it to work tomorrow to 
stretch its legs a bit.  I know the first tank of fuel will have sucky mileage 
since it’s spent a fair amount of time idling and running on five cylinders in 
the last week, but I really want to get a full tank through it to see how it’s 
doing.

I need to get an analog voltmeter so I can set the duty cycle of the fuel 
system.  As I understand it, once these systems are set up properly they’ll 
even run pretty well in limp home mode.  Can’t beat that.  Here’s a really good 
writeup for setting duty cycle for the Bosch KE-Jetronic fuel system:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2720049-ke-jetronic-lambda-control-duty-cycle.html

-D
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[MBZ] 124 Windshield Goodness

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Wilton - did you have MB replace the windshield in the 124 300D?

Yesterday I finally had some time to clean off the windshield from Wilton's
124 sedan, which you probably recall was an '87 model.  I plan to install
it into my '95 sedan, which has an aftermarket windshield that has
cracked.

The '95 sedan has the VIN / Airbag tag mounted low on the dash, and is
supposed to show through a little window in the black ceramic coating
around the edge of the window.  '87 is different, VIN tag is on the
A-column.  I thought I'd need to scrape off the ceramic coating in the
right spot to make a window.

Someone up there must be looking out for me, the VIN window was there.  As
I was removing the old sealant with a razor scraper, it became visible.
Some cleaning was required to remove all the old black sealant, but it is
perfectly positioned and obviously "factory".

Either this is a replacement windshield, or MB was planning ahead.

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Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Michelins at Costco

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Nicer stores. Better selection.

On Mar 11, 2017 3:41 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> by what measure?
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> March 11, 2017 at 10:51 AM
>> Costco is better than Sam's.
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Re: [MBZ] Grandpa was Pablo Escobar

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Should get around $5k on BAT.

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Re: [MBZ] I want

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

For hunting wascal wabbits as indicated in the pciture,, ditch the heavy 
rotary hardware in favor of a 22/410 over/under.  If you can't get the 
wabbit with one shot, go home.  (Same for bushy-tail tree rodents, only 
you don't need the 410 for that)



G Mann via Mercedes 
March 10, 2017 at 12:03 PM
Here is a picture of what comes to mind for drive configuration. This
particular picture is NOT of me driving my squirrel hunting gun... honest.
;))

I presume it takes moderator blessings to post the picture.. so.. 
"please"?



​This track configuration, with drive motors mounted high, should give 
true

"4x4" for your camera, wifi reporting, guard machine. And your vast estate
will be covered... and you'll have fun building more than one.. ;))

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <



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Re: [MBZ] Turbo tune up

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Leak and turbo performance may be unrelated, do the test that Peter
described.  Removing the intake rubber accordion duct is easy enough on a
124, can't be much worse on a 126, and see how she feels.  (Are you feeling
good today?  Can I check to make sure?)

Turbo non-performance can be related to a clogged pressure feed line from
the intake to the over-pressure cut-off valve, thence to the ALDA.  If that
line is clogged or leaking, turbo can do its thing all day long but no
extra fuel is delivered and performance is the same as non-turbo.

My '87 wagon was only producing 8 psi from the turbo, I had to adjust the
waste gate rod.  The internal spring for the waste gate control valve will
tend to weaken over time and open too early, and the turbo pressure won't
build to the factory spec.  One complete turn of the rod in the shorter
(tighter) direction will increase the pressure by 4 psi.

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Charleston SC
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