Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I think the three issues with knob and tube are (1) possible arcing at poor 
solder joints, (2) brittle old natural rubber insulation, and (3) possible 
insulation overheating/failure if insulation was added.  I replaced all the KNT 
in the attic and the insulation just crumbled when I bent the wire.  I left one 
KNT circuit that powers the ceiling lights because I didn't want to rip up the 
upstairs floors but I breakered it down to 10 amps with an arc-fault breaker.  
I think KNT is safe if properly installed and not disturbed.  But the 
connections were soldered using soldering irons heated by a gasoline blow 
torch, so skill was a big factor.

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> Knob and tube is quite safe, wonder why they have that policy?  I guess it is
> really old so maybe insulation issues, but since the conductors are separated 
> it
> is not much of an issue as far as shorting.
> 
> --FT
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> > I found out that USAA won't insure a house with any knob-and-tube
> wiring.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar update

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Our farm had a hydraulic ram pump at one time for stock watering.  Pump is
still in the barn.  It takes a bit of water flow, but if you have it it'll
run 24x7 for decades.  There's only one moving part.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Knob and tube has excellent insulation potential, very hard to get a short
due to the physical isolation of the two conductors.  It is also
air-cooled, so it doesn't overheat as much under overload.  On the down
side, there's never a safety ground, and it is more exposed to physical
damage since it doesn't have a second insulation layer.  And, it's old,
which means that bad connections are going to be a much more likely
prospect.  Also, it's a lot more likely to have cloth insulation rather
than rubber or vinyl, and neutral vs hot is probably not color-coded, so
you have to pay attention to what you are doing.

Disclaimer: I have a box of knobs and tubes in the garage somewhere.

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE $1000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The rust is wicked, and not in the good sense.

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> Looks like it’s ready for the back 40.
>
> -D
>
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> > This has been for sale for a long time. I wonder how bad it is.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

 
> > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> > May 31, 2017 at 5:10 PM
> > So a couple of weeks ago I patched a crack in the kids radiator after 
> > he hit something which pushed one of the side supports until the tank. 
> > This weekend he said it blew. I took a look at it today and the patch 
> > was holding, it had a huge crack at the top near the neck. I have seen 
> > the necks break off but never this.
~~
Several years ago someone said you could replace the plastic tops and bottoms 
of radiators easily if you bought the special tools to uncrimp and then 
re-crimp them from the core. Here is a supply house that probably has the top 
for your Mercedes if you can figure out their classification for the model 
Mercedes.
Probably calling them would be best.
I've tried patching cracks in the top, but they always fail.

https://www.thermprocesses.com/index.php?cPath=3_33_138

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Re: [MBZ] Come Begging

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You must have more pictures than the 4 on the ad..  What I can see from 
the one picture, the interior looks ok.  The dash is cracked, but that 
is normal, unless you are trying to turn it into a museum exhibit.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 7:36 PM
The seller on this car is now contacting me and asking me to consider 
it - he wants to “talk about the price”. Interior is an issue but the 
car is otherwise solid. Hagerty on this car in this condition is 
between $3k and $5k, roughly.


https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/6091781141.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What's the past tense of ATTABOY ?

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:26 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> You noticed, of course, my Victorians were RESTORED, incl, parquet and
> tile floors, original wood moldings throughout, several fireplace surrounds
> and mantels, decorative plaster ceilings, beautiful stairways with walnut
> balustrades, etc., etc., etc.
>
> Wilt
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, a real pity to see a house ruined like that.

You noticed, of course, my Victorians were RESTORED, incl, parquet and tile 
floors, original wood moldings throughout, several fireplace surrounds and 
mantels, decorative plaster ceilings, beautiful stairways with walnut 
balustrades, etc., etc., etc.


Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects


Back about 10 years ago there was a old Tudor style 4000sqft house that 
used to belong to a long time dr in town that was a beautiful old house 
built in the early 1900s.  It ended up forclosed on and was listed for 
about 70-80K in Claremore where we used to live.  Housing market very 
strong there.  Anyway wife was a realtor then also and we had a loan all 
lined up and everything but ended up not proceeding.  Whoever got it got a 
steal, and they have really fixed it up nice.


On the other end of the spectrum and you seen people who buy old victorian 
style houses, then completely gut them and "update" them so when you walk 
in them, they look like any other modern house? Well back in the late 90's 
there was this victorian type house that came up for sale. It was listed 
at 89k I think.  Anyway, the owner was an old teacher who passed away and 
the house was quite original.  Had the most beautiful woodwork and 
craftsmanship in the house it was amazing.  It needed a little work but 
nothing too major.  I would have loved to have bought it but I was young 
and knew nothing about buying houses.  It ended up selling and later it 
came back up on the market for sale and I went and looked at it again. 
Apparently whoever bought it went in and completely gutted the house down 
to the wall studs.   I mean completely.  Even the original beautiful 
wooden starcase was out, it its place they had build a new one out of 
regular lumber.  It was sad, very sad.  If I remember right they got 
forclosed on.  Later on somebody else bought it and it later came up for 
sale, this time at around $250k if memory serves.  It was like a brand new 
house inside.  It was very very sad remembering what it used to look like. 
It has been foreclosed on a couple of times since then and is currently 
foreclosed and was listed, but for some reason the listing has been 
removed.  Here it is on zillow.  Take a look at the photos. Look at the 
fireplace now, it used to be this big fancy dark wood deal, same with the 
stare case.  It looks like they just put run of the mill Lowes hardware in 
it.  If you look at the photo of the back of the house, that upstairs off 
the back of the house used to be sort of like a screened in porch sort of 
deal, was a room with windows on all sides.  I am betting that was a 
sleeping room back in the days before AC.  For some reason they have fully 
enclosed it and it  is just a windowless room now.  Heck it even looks 
like it some of the photos they installed pergo type flooring either over 
or replacing the original hardwoods.  Of course they have carpeting over 
most of the hardwood flooring as well.  I do not understand why people do 
this to an old house.  If you want it new go buy a new house.



https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Claremore-OK/22083621_zpid/10834_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/36.310347,-95.605631,36.309184,-95.607348_rect/18_zm/


On 5/31/2017 5:34 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
1984 thru '87 I was part owner of (1/3 on one, 1/4 on the other) and 
restored two 1875 Victorian mansions (one a 4200 SF, other 5000SF) listed 
on The National Register of Historic Places.


Early '88 'bought and moved into 3500SF Georgian Colonial Revival (like 
those in Williamsburg, VA, and  Charleston, SC) built in 1905.  This 
house had been extensively renovated in 1941 -lotsa 1941 fabric-covered 
"Romex"; plumbing supply pipes are copper w/cast iron dwv.  I built new 
kitchen cabinets and installed all new wiring & plumbing in kit and for 
laundry room/closet in 2F hallway.  Also installed new 200 Amp main 
breaker panel and several new circuits as necessary.  Main htng is via 
1941, gas fired circulating hot water system with new burner/blower. 
'Also installed 3 heat pumps - one on 1F, 2 on 2F

1905 slate roof; some repairs as necessary coupla years ago.

Wilton

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I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I was
there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd moved,
though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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My 

Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It's a Mercedes, miles don't count. An old low miles car is trouble - more
than higher miles, and I don't consider one to be "high mileage" till it's
over 350,000.

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> Not really.  Hagerty and PPI put it at about $10k.  My biggest concern
> would be the miles it’s got (160k) and the location.
>
> I could see maybe $8500.
>
> -D
>
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> > Wow, that is THE car. Too bad it's about 10k too high.
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> >> Beautiful car, stupid price.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] A car that needs poos

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Wonder how much for the Delorian or the Rolls in the background?
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'95 E300

On May 31, 2017 8:22:43 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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>1992 Mercedes 500SL hard top convertible
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Re: [MBZ] A car that needs poos

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Until I read the text, I couldn't figure out why all the cars had doors or 
windows open. I was thinking "if you shut the doors, most of the dust will stay 
outside the car".

 it is complete but was running when parked but got water in it

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE $1000

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks like it’s ready for the back 40.

-D


> On May 31, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> This has been for sale for a long time. I wonder how bad it is.
> 
> 1972 Mercedes 280SE
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[MBZ] Come Begging

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The seller on this car is now contacting me and asking me to consider it - he 
wants to “talk about the price”. Interior is an issue but the car is otherwise 
solid.  Hagerty on this car in this condition is between $3k and $5k, roughly.

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/6091781141.html

-D
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[MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE $1000

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This has been for sale for a long time. I wonder how bad it is.

1972 Mercedes 280SE
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[MBZ] Rustbucket

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles -
https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6155104641.html

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[MBZ] A car that needs poos

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1992 Mercedes 500SL hard top convertible
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/6153373062.html

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Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

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Not really.  Hagerty and PPI put it at about $10k.  My biggest concern would be 
the miles it’s got (160k) and the location.

I could see maybe $8500.

-D

 
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> Wow, that is THE car. Too bad it's about 10k too high. 
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>> Beautiful car, stupid price.
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>> https://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/6154876917.html
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Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

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Wow, that is THE car. Too bad it's about 10k too high. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> Beautiful car, stupid price.
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> https://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/6154876917.html
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[MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Beautiful car, stupid price.

https://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/6154876917.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

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https://pics.me.me/momlthebabysitterdoesnt-want-to-breastfeed-me-she-only-wants-to-breastfeed-15858285.png

> On May 31, 2017 at 7:24 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would have thought that you were past that stage.
> 
> Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[MG via Mercedes]

I would have thought that you were past that stage.

Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

RB wrote:

Who is going to do the cooking and cleaning?


That and breastfeeding.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[MG via Mercedes]

Granny of course!

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 31/05/2017 5:02 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:

Tsk tsk tsk...Such prurient thoughts.

You should be thinking of parts, for the repairs.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 31/05/2017 10:05 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
damn boy you gonna have a regular compound out there in the 
boonies.  I guess we can all drive our dizzels down there and camp 
out after the Brirriant Reader smokes us with an EMP.


Dizzels and guns, what more do we need?

--FT



Women?

RB


Who is going to do the cooking and cleaning?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I know.  It’s out there somewhere….

-D


> On May 31, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Patience, grasshopper
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 6:12 PM
>> Yabbut the ear nose and throat doctor who owns it thinks it’s worth a heck 
>> of a lot more than it is. It will be on CL for a long, long time.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[OK Don via Mercedes]

You don't know until you try - I wouldn't have thought the first patch
would work . . .

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think its beyond patching at this point.
>
>
> On 5/31/2017 5:34 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Patch it at the new crack?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] somebody needs this....

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I am not sure the 250 is right, but that is what the ad says.  Maybe it 
was japan or RTW only, if there was one.  I've only seen/heard of 160 
and 305.


My first motorcycle was a 305.  I had to rebuild the top end.  After 
that it was ok, but it always vibrated a LOT.  I called it the 
nightmare.  It was not a good dream



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 6:16 PM
A 250 Dream?
Never saw one of those in person.
I don't think they were as common as the 160 and 305 were.
My dad bought a used 160 Dream in 1971, then the next winter he traded 
it in on a new/leftover 1971 Suzuki T500.

My first bike was a CB200T, a direct descendant of the CB160.
Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Patience, grasshopper


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 6:12 PM
Yabbut the ear nose and throat doctor who owns it thinks it’s worth a 
heck of a lot more than it is. It will be on CL for a long, long time.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Yeah, but the $1,000 one is more what I had in mind, budgetwise...


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I thought the brand new one (the first one Dan linked) looked interesting
> for $3500...which I think is less than the kit sold for in 1985 without the
> drivetrain.
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Re: [MBZ] somebody needs this....

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

A 250 Dream?
Never saw one of those in person. 
I don't think they were as common as the 160 and 305 were.
My dad bought a used 160 Dream in 1971, then the next winter he traded it in on 
a new/leftover 1971 Suzuki T500.
My first bike was a CB200T, a direct descendant of the CB160.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yabbut the ear nose and throat doctor who owns it thinks it’s worth a heck of a 
lot more than it is.  It will be on CL for a long, long time.

-D

> On May 31, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> there is one in desmoines.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 5:52 PM
>> Yeah, given the choice I would really like to find something 64 or newer for 
>> that reason..
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I thought the brand new one (the first one Dan linked) looked interesting for 
$3500...which I think is less than the kit sold for in 1985 without the 
drivetrain.

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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I think its beyond patching at this point.


On 5/31/2017 5:34 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Patch it at the new crack?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Back about 10 years ago there was a old Tudor style 4000sqft house that 
used to belong to a long time dr in town that was a beautiful old house 
built in the early 1900s.  It ended up forclosed on and was listed for 
about 70-80K in Claremore where we used to live.  Housing market very 
strong there.  Anyway wife was a realtor then also and we had a loan all 
lined up and everything but ended up not proceeding.  Whoever got it got 
a steal, and they have really fixed it up nice.


On the other end of the spectrum and you seen people who buy old 
victorian style houses, then completely gut them and "update" them so 
when you walk in them, they look like any other modern house? Well back 
in the late 90's there was this victorian type house that came up for 
sale. It was listed at 89k I think.  Anyway, the owner was an old 
teacher who passed away and the house was quite original.  Had the most 
beautiful woodwork and craftsmanship in the house it was amazing.  It 
needed a little work but nothing too major.  I would have loved to have 
bought it but I was young and knew nothing about buying houses.  It 
ended up selling and later it came back up on the market for sale and I 
went and looked at it again.  Apparently whoever bought it went in and 
completely gutted the house down to the wall studs.   I mean 
completely.  Even the original beautiful wooden starcase was out, it its 
place they had build a new one out of regular lumber.  It was sad, very 
sad.  If I remember right they got forclosed on.  Later on somebody else 
bought it and it later came up for sale, this time at around $250k if 
memory serves.  It was like a brand new  house inside.  It was very very 
sad remembering what it used to look like.  It has been foreclosed on a 
couple of times since then and is currently foreclosed and was listed, 
but for some reason the listing has been removed.  Here it is on 
zillow.  Take a look at the photos. Look at the fireplace now, it used 
to be this big fancy dark wood deal, same with the stare case.  It looks 
like they just put run of the mill Lowes hardware in it.  If you look at 
the photo of the back of the house, that upstairs off the back of the 
house used to be sort of like a screened in porch sort of deal, was a 
room with windows on all sides.  I am betting that was a sleeping room 
back in the days before AC.  For some reason they have fully enclosed it 
and it  is just a windowless room now.  Heck it even looks like it some 
of the photos they installed pergo type flooring either over or 
replacing the original hardwoods.  Of course they have carpeting over 
most of the hardwood flooring as well.  I do not understand why people 
do this to an old house.  If you want it new go buy a new house.



https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Claremore-OK/22083621_zpid/10834_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/36.310347,-95.605631,36.309184,-95.607348_rect/18_zm/


On 5/31/2017 5:34 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
1984 thru '87 I was part owner of (1/3 on one, 1/4 on the other) and 
restored two 1875 Victorian mansions (one a 4200 SF, other 5000SF) 
listed on The National Register of Historic Places.


Early '88 'bought and moved into 3500SF Georgian Colonial Revival 
(like those in Williamsburg, VA, and  Charleston, SC) built in 1905.  
This house had been extensively renovated in 1941 -lotsa 1941 
fabric-covered "Romex"; plumbing supply pipes are copper w/cast iron 
dwv.  I built new kitchen cabinets and installed all new wiring & 
plumbing in kit and for laundry room/closet in 2F hallway.  Also 
installed new 200 Amp main breaker panel and several new circuits as 
necessary.  Main htng is via 1941, gas fired circulating hot water 
system with new burner/blower.  'Also installed 3 heat pumps - one on 
1F, 2 on 2F

1905 slate roof; some repairs as necessary coupla years ago.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects



I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I was
there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd moved,
though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and 
lots of

craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I 
loved it.
 When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that 
lead to
a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades 
trying to
cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard. The 
difficult
things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring 
that had
been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It 

Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

there is one in desmoines.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 5:52 PM
Yeah, given the choice I would really like to find something 64 or 
newer for that reason..


-D


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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, given the choice I would really like to find something 64 or newer for 
that reason..

-D


> On May 31, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
>> …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
>> 
>> https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html
>> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> The good thing about it is that the carbs are dual Solex!
> 
> Bad is that in 1960, is still has drum brakes on all 4s, and the brake system 
> is single circuit.  It will stop ok, but  you want to be really, really sure 
> the brake lines and hoses are in great shape.
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Sommat like this one is what I have in mind.

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6128462106.html

Pity it's halfway across the nation, tho.



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wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 2017 16:30:40 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > I use an app on my phone called cPro or something like that.
>
> I was using
>
> www.searchtempest.com
>
> to search for cars and that site suggested
>
> www.autotempest.com
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no, because it already had a hole in the radiator.  There was no way for 
the pressure to build up.


It does not look like a stress/vibration crack.  It looks like a 
overpressure crack.


I'll give ya $500 for it, delivered.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 5:43 PM
It did not exhibit any signs of that last time around.



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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
…it’s in the middle of nowhere…

https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html

Dang it.

-D


The good thing about it is that the carbs are dual Solex!

Bad is that in 1960, is still has drum brakes on all 4s, and the brake 
system is single circuit.  It will stop ok, but  you want to be really, 
really sure the brake lines and hoses are in great shape.

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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 31 May 2017 14:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'm 53, think I can get discount in 7 years. I don't think you look as
> old as me. Maybe Curt or Craig could confirm that. Mitch.

Yes, I also think Kaleb doesn't look as old as Mitch.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It did not exhibit any signs of that last time around. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ja..too much pressure?   Like he overheated it severely the first time , 
> so the head cracked and is blowing exhaust gasses into the radiator?
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 5:10 PM
>> So a couple of weeks ago I patched a crack in the kids radiator after he hit 
>> something which pushed one of the side supports until the tank. This weekend 
>> he said it blew. I took a look at it today and the patch was holding, it had 
>> a huge crack at the top near the neck. I have seen the necks break off but 
>> never this.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Patch it at the new crack?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 31, 2017 6:10:21 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So a couple of weeks ago I patched a crack in the kids radiator after
>he hit something which pushed one of the side supports until the tank.
>This weekend he said it blew. I took a look at it today and the patch
>was holding, it had a huge crack at the top near the neck. I have seen
>the necks break off but never this.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[WILTON via Mercedes]

1984 thru '87 I was part owner of (1/3 on one, 1/4 on the other) and 
restored two 1875 Victorian mansions (one a 4200 SF, other 5000SF) listed on 
The National Register of Historic Places.


Early '88 'bought and moved into 3500SF Georgian Colonial Revival (like 
those in Williamsburg, VA, and  Charleston, SC) built in 1905.  This house 
had been extensively renovated in 1941 -lotsa 1941 fabric-covered "Romex"; 
plumbing supply pipes are copper w/cast iron dwv.  I built new kitchen 
cabinets and installed all new wiring & plumbing in kit and for laundry 
room/closet in 2F hallway.  Also installed new 200 Amp main breaker panel 
and several new circuits as necessary.  Main htng is via 1941, gas fired 
circulating hot water system with new burner/blower.  'Also installed 3 heat 
pumps - one on 1F, 2 on 2F

1905 slate roof; some repairs as necessary coupla years ago.

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects



I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I was
there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd moved,
though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and lots 
of

craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I loved 
it.
 When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that lead 
to
a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades trying 
to
cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The 
difficult
things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring that 
had

been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a huge
house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses with small
rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this 
house.

It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house built
today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little wind blows
such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by Kaleb.
Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned by its
owners.
>
> RB
>
>> On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth trees 
that

are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still good.  A
foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would definitely be a long
term project.  Would you try to restore and flip? Or turn it into a 
rental?

Or several apartments?
>>
>> Don Snook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
>>
>> I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of curiosity on
the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it looked
interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to need a LOT of
work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house with
impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  Alot or most of
the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to the ends of the 
roof
studs (not sure what you call it) as well as sofet (sp) is rotted and 
will

require replacement.  Floors are uneven in some spots as you would expect
in an old house and that does not really concern me much.  All of the
windows in the house are the old original wood framed windows and have
storm windows installed on the outside.  These are these big old windows
you dont see in houses anymore.  Wife says they all need to be replaced 
but

I told her these unlike new windows can be repaired, or so I think.  Just
need to to have all the old paint scraped out, remove the old putty that
holds the glass in and replace.  No they are probably not as efficient as
new windows.  On one side of the house they have 2 or 3 huge concrete
pillars/supports of some sort which butt up against the foundation, 
almost
sort of like buttresses on a cathedral.  The only thing I can figure is 
the

foundation started pushing out like it 

Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Still have that red car.  Wife drives it daily.  Current stable includes:

1997 SL500 - 112k
1995 E300D - 257k
1994 S420 - 120k
1990 350SDL - 272k

-D


> On May 31, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I should have thought that red MB convertible that you had (maybe still have) 
> would have fit that bill pretty nicely given where you live.
> The reason I am reluctant to buy a newer boat has a lot to do with the cost 
> of one. I would not use it enough to justify the cost.
> If I had a $40K boat I would be paying a lot for insurance and I would be 
> much more worried about it getting scratched up while tied at the dock etc.
> I don't mind being something of a bottom feeder for boats although I have 
> been looking at ones that run closer to $10K.
> I really do not want a fancy fiberglass thing with lots of upholstery. I 
> would rather have a more rugged aluminum boat but they do not seem as common 
> around here and they hold their value well so the cost would likely be closer 
> to $20K for a decent one and that is getting beyond what I really want to 
> spend on a boat. The newer 4 stroke outboards are nice but expensive and the 
> cost of repairs will be substantial if it goes bad too.
> Bigger older 2 stroke motors use too much fuel so I have generally been 
> looking at 4 or 6 cylinder inboard outboards.
> 
> I don't think safety is a big issue with a boat. No seat belts or air bags 
> etc. Speed is probably the biggest issue with boats. There are lots of them 
> that will exceed 70 mph and that is sort of silly. I have no need to go that 
> fast on the water.  Accidents happen but are more avoidable on open water. 
> Failure to pay attention is the most likely cause.  A 20 foot boat is big 
> enough for the waters we use and still small enough to fairly easily launch 
> and retrieve etc. The only real issue is reliability as I don't want to be 
> out on the lake and have the motor give up. We would have a smaller auxiliary 
> outboard engine but it would take some time to come home. Cell phone coverage 
> is ok so we could possibly call for help and get someone to come tow us in. I 
> don't think of that as a safety item however in comparison to cars. Old cars 
> are generally not as safe as newer cars - especially if one goes back into 
> the 50's and 60's. I know Mercedes was a leader in designing safer cars but 
> the ol
 d ones generally cannot match the newer ones.
> 
> I am rambling so I will stop now.
> 
> RB


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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ja..too much pressure?   Like he overheated it severely the first 
time , so the head cracked and is blowing exhaust gasses into the radiator?



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 5:10 PM
So a couple of weeks ago I patched a crack in the kids radiator after 
he hit something which pushed one of the side supports until the tank. 
This weekend he said it blew. I took a look at it today and the patch 
was holding, it had a huge crack at the top near the neck. I have seen 
the necks break off but never this.



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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No the top.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 31 May 2017 17:10:21 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> So a couple of weeks ago I patched a crack in the kids radiator after
>> he hit something which pushed one of the side supports until the tank.
>> This weekend he said it blew. I took a look at it today and the patch
>> was holding, it had a huge crack at the top near the neck. I have seen
>> the necks break off but never this.
> 
> That would leak, wouldn't it?
> 
> I presume it's the bottom radiator hose we are seeing in the picture.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I should have thought that red MB convertible that you had (maybe still 
have) would have fit that bill pretty nicely given where you live.
The reason I am reluctant to buy a newer boat has a lot to do with the 
cost of one. I would not use it enough to justify the cost.
If I had a $40K boat I would be paying a lot for insurance and I would 
be much more worried about it getting scratched up while tied at the 
dock etc.
I don't mind being something of a bottom feeder for boats although I 
have been looking at ones that run closer to $10K.
I really do not want a fancy fiberglass thing with lots of upholstery. I 
would rather have a more rugged aluminum boat but they do not seem as 
common around here and they hold their value well so the cost would 
likely be closer to $20K for a decent one and that is getting beyond 
what I really want to spend on a boat. The newer 4 stroke outboards are 
nice but expensive and the cost of repairs will be substantial if it 
goes bad too.
Bigger older 2 stroke motors use too much fuel so I have generally been 
looking at 4 or 6 cylinder inboard outboards.


I don't think safety is a big issue with a boat. No seat belts or air 
bags etc. Speed is probably the biggest issue with boats. There are lots 
of them that will exceed 70 mph and that is sort of silly. I have no 
need to go that fast on the water.  Accidents happen but are more 
avoidable on open water. Failure to pay attention is the most likely 
cause.  A 20 foot boat is big enough for the waters we use and still 
small enough to fairly easily launch and retrieve etc. The only real 
issue is reliability as I don't want to be out on the lake and have the 
motor give up. We would have a smaller auxiliary outboard engine but it 
would take some time to come home. Cell phone coverage is ok so we could 
possibly call for help and get someone to come tow us in. I don't think 
of that as a safety item however in comparison to cars. Old cars are 
generally not as safe as newer cars - especially if one goes back into 
the 50's and 60's. I know Mercedes was a leader in designing safer cars 
but the old ones generally cannot match the newer ones.


I am rambling so I will stop now.

RB


On 31/05/2017 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I want a “fun” car to drive for leisure and on the weekends when the weather is 
nice.  The other cars are nice, but they’re transportation. I like to have 
something that’s unique and unusual, and a finnie is one car I’ve always liked 
ever since I had my 1962 300SE.

I could ask you why do you want so many boats?  Why don’t you buy a newer one 
instead of old ones you never get going? I doubt they’re all that much fun or 
safe compared to a modern boat.

I rest my case, counselor.

-D




On May 31, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

Why do you want one of these so bad?
You already have some nice cars and have had others that you have moved on from 
that are a heck of a lot better than some early 60's car..
I doubt a finnie is either all that fun to drive or all that safe.
Admire from afar and stick with cars a bit newer would be my advice.
I see cars in traffic every day that look really nice but I truly do not want 
to own them.
New Corvettes are a perfect example. They look really nice but I sure don't 
want to own one.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 31 May 2017 17:10:21 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> So a couple of weeks ago I patched a crack in the kids radiator after
> he hit something which pushed one of the side supports until the tank.
> This weekend he said it blew. I took a look at it today and the patch
> was holding, it had a huge crack at the top near the neck. I have seen
> the necks break off but never this.

That would leak, wouldn't it?

I presume it's the bottom radiator hose we are seeing in the picture.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

With that car and that distance shipping is a no-brainer. I can't see taking an 
unknown 50+ year old car on a 2000+ mile journey.
It'd maybe make a good episode of "Roadkill". Maybe pitch them the idea.

-Curt


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Cc: Mountain Man 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But
   
Craig wrote:
> Or repeat the process you had with your SEL.

Or repeat the process you had with your LWB - say hi to Al.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 31 May 2017 17:23:01 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> Dan Penoff wrote:
> 
> > …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
> > 
> > https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html
> > 
> > Dang it.
> 
> That's in Washington state, isn't it? How far would that be from Jim?

That was what I initially thought, too, but it's not.


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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 31 May 2017 16:30:40 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I use an app on my phone called cPro or something like that.

I was using

www.searchtempest.com

to search for cars and that site suggested

www.autotempest.com


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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Craig wrote:
> Or repeat the process you had with your SEL.

Or repeat the process you had with your LWB - say hi to Al.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 31 May 2017 16:32:22 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
> 
> https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html

Fly to LAX of SFO, rent a car one-way, drive it home ...

Or repeat the process you had with your SEL.


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

RB wrote:
> Who is going to do the cooking and cleaning?

That and breastfeeding.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Son of a b….

I never thought about him - he goes by “gcvisalia”.

Already dropped him an email.

Talked to the seller.,  Some Hispanic guy I could hardly understand, doesn’t 
know the car, bought it from a local mechanic that owned it for many years.  
When I asked him about things like the back seat and headliner, he said 
something about how he paid a guy to "put up all of those pictures on 
Craigslist.”

I explained to him that there was nothing of the sort in the ad…

More as I know it.

Thanks, Mao!

-D


> On May 31, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gerry wrote:
>> That's in Washington state, isn't it? How far would that be from Jim?
> 
> scroll back out - just west of Visalia, CA
> tin.tin
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 31/05/2017 5:02 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:

Tsk tsk tsk...Such prurient thoughts.

You should be thinking of parts, for the repairs.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 31/05/2017 10:05 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
damn boy you gonna have a regular compound out there in the 
boonies.  I guess we can all drive our dizzels down there and camp 
out after the Brirriant Reader smokes us with an EMP.


Dizzels and guns, what more do we need?

--FT



Women?

RB


Who is going to do the cooking and cleaning?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gerry wrote:
> That's in Washington state, isn't it? How far would that be from Jim?

scroll back out - just west of Visalia, CA
tin.tin

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-D wrote:
> …it’s in the middle of nowhere…

mercedeslist george lives east of there in visalia, fwiw
tin.tin

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[MG via Mercedes]

Tsk tsk tsk...Such prurient thoughts.

You should be thinking of parts, for the repairs.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 31/05/2017 10:05 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
damn boy you gonna have a regular compound out there in the boonies.  
I guess we can all drive our dizzels down there and camp out after the 
Brirriant Reader smokes us with an EMP.


Dizzels and guns, what more do we need?

--FT



Women?

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I want a “fun” car to drive for leisure and on the weekends when the weather is 
nice.  The other cars are nice, but they’re transportation. I like to have 
something that’s unique and unusual, and a finnie is one car I’ve always liked 
ever since I had my 1962 300SE.

I could ask you why do you want so many boats?  Why don’t you buy a newer one 
instead of old ones you never get going? I doubt they’re all that much fun or 
safe compared to a modern boat.

I rest my case, counselor.

-D



> On May 31, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why do you want one of these so bad?
> You already have some nice cars and have had others that you have moved on 
> from that are a heck of a lot better than some early 60's car..
> I doubt a finnie is either all that fun to drive or all that safe.
> Admire from afar and stick with cars a bit newer would be my advice.
> I see cars in traffic every day that look really nice but I truly do not want 
> to own them.
> New Corvettes are a perfect example. They look really nice but I sure don't 
> want to own one.
> 
> RB
> 

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I hate having to get in and out of corvettes. I had to drive one just 
yesterday. They are not made for tall guys.

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> On May 31, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why do you want one of these so bad?
> You already have some nice cars and have had others that you have moved on 
> from that are a heck of a lot better than some early 60's car..
> I doubt a finnie is either all that fun to drive or all that safe.
> Admire from afar and stick with cars a bit newer would be my advice.
> I see cars in traffic every day that look really nice but I truly do not want 
> to own them.
> New Corvettes are a perfect example. They look really nice but I sure don't 
> want to own one.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 31/05/2017 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Does the right rear taillight frame/trim look like it’s got no plating?
>> 
>> Engine compartment sure is clean.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looks pretty nice for a commie car.  (Communists in yurp rotated their 
>>> stars to point down , especially on fin cars and 114/5s.  Max's Italian 
>>> in-laws should be able to confirm this.
>>> 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
 …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
 
 https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html
 
 Dang it.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Why do you want one of these so bad?
You already have some nice cars and have had others that you have moved 
on from that are a heck of a lot better than some early 60's car..

I doubt a finnie is either all that fun to drive or all that safe.
Admire from afar and stick with cars a bit newer would be my advice.
I see cars in traffic every day that look really nice but I truly do not 
want to own them.
New Corvettes are a perfect example. They look really nice but I sure 
don't want to own one.


RB

On 31/05/2017 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Does the right rear taillight frame/trim look like it’s got no plating?

Engine compartment sure is clean.

-D



On May 31, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

Looks pretty nice for a commie car.  (Communists in yurp rotated their stars to 
point down , especially on fin cars and 114/5s.  Max's Italian in-laws should 
be able to confirm this.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
…it’s in the middle of nowhere…

https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html

Dang it.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

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Dan Penoff wrote:

> …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
> 
> https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html
> 
> Dang it.

That's in Washington state, isn't it? How far would that be from Jim?
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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It does appear dull compared to the left one.

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> On May 31, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does the right rear taillight frame/trim look like it’s got no plating?
> 
> Engine compartment sure is clean.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks pretty nice for a commie car.  (Communists in yurp rotated their stars 
>> to point down , especially on fin cars and 114/5s.  Max's Italian in-laws 
>> should be able to confirm this.
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
>>> …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
>>> 
>>> https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html
>>> 
>>> Dang it.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I heard something about that on the radio. The millennial women have figured 
out the men their own are are snowflakes and have started going after older 
established men because they want stability. Even to the point of giving up 
having kids and potentially taking care of the man when he gets too old. I have 
been saying for years if I was a good looking young woman I would skip working 
hard building up money etc and just skip to getting me a man that already had 
some. 

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> On May 31, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They were sayin' that there is a study our tax $$$ paid for that sez the 
> young girls are sick of the metroqueers and want to chase older men since 
> they are more likely to be a man.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 4:31 PM
>> No I went inside.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 31/05/2017 4:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
They were sayin' that there is a study our tax $$$ paid for that 
sez the young girls are sick of the metroqueers and want to chase 
older men since they are more likely to be a man.


and have a job and cash

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Does the right rear taillight frame/trim look like it’s got no plating?

Engine compartment sure is clean.

-D


> On May 31, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks pretty nice for a commie car.  (Communists in yurp rotated their stars 
> to point down , especially on fin cars and 114/5s.  Max's Italian in-laws 
> should be able to confirm this.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
>> …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
>> 
>> https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html
>> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Rats WUZ: Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Several feral cats are in the neighborhood - they don't seem to make much
of a dent, though I'd hate to see the rodent population if they weren't
here. They do like us feeding the birds, making them easier to catch. We
figure there are enough birds to go around.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You both need a couple rat terriers that you don't feed much and don't let
> in the house, and a similarly hungry cat in the garage.
>
> We had a BC that could cover a quarter mile in 10 seconds if she thought
> there was a morsel of food to be had.  She was the ugliest cat ever, but
> also the best varmit gitter.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 4:29 PM
>> If you think building a garage will keep the rodents out you are
>> dreaming. They will find a way in. They will run in when the doors are open.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Rats WUZ: Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

We have 5-6 cats outside plus whatever barn cats live around here. I have a 
bunch of seats stored in the barn and have not seen any mice damage on them. I 
wish the cars would trail out to the back 40 where the parts cars are and keep 
mice out of the cars. I do see mice crap and such in cars. Would love to figure 
out a way to deter them. We have coyotes around here you can hear at night. 
Down at the parts car lot I see where the prairie grass is beat down around 
them and evidence of dirt dug out from under some of them. I have not gotten 
down under to look but I wonder of coyotes live under cars during the day. No 
telling what I will find when I happen to move one out with the tractor.

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> On May 31, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You both need a couple rat terriers that you don't feed much and don't let in 
> the house, and a similarly hungry cat in the garage.
> 
> We had a BC that could cover a quarter mile in 10 seconds if she thought 
> there was a morsel of food to be had.  She was the ugliest cat ever, but also 
> the best varmit gitter.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 4:29 PM
>> If you think building a garage will keep the rodents out you are dreaming. 
>> They will find a way in. They will run in when the doors are open.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

They were sayin' that there is a study our tax $$$ paid for that sez 
the young girls are sick of the metroqueers and want to chase older men 
since they are more likely to be a man.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 4:31 PM
No I went inside.

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Awful aftermarket seat covers

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> On May 31, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks pretty nice for a commie car.  (Communists in yurp rotated their stars 
> to point down , especially on fin cars and 114/5s.  Max's Italian in-laws 
> should be able to confirm this.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
>> …it’s in the middle of nowhere…
>> 
>> https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html
>> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> -D
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[MBZ] Rats WUZ: Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You both need a couple rat terriers that you don't feed much and don't 
let in the house, and a similarly hungry cat in the garage.


We had a BC that could cover a quarter mile in 10 seconds if she thought 
there was a morsel of food to be had.  She was the ugliest cat ever, but 
also the best varmit gitter.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 4:29 PM
If you think building a garage will keep the rodents out you are 
dreaming. They will find a way in. They will run in when the doors are 
open.




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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's nowhere yet. A fellow list member was looking for a car and I figured this 
would fit the bill. If the list member does not want to do a deal maybe I 
should put it in BAT. Btw, that is how you take photos to try and sell a 
vehicle. When I do list cars for sale I get very little emails about them 
because I put lots of high quality photos and video up. Usually the first one 
to show up ends up buying it. I leave little room in the ad for questions so it 
just comes down to driving the car. 

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> On May 31, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> ‎You mean this car that is currently for sale?
> 
> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/‎
> 
> It's not on CL or Ebay. 
>  Is it on BaT?
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It will help control them, and make poisoning and trapping easier.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> If you think building a garage will keep the rodents out you are dreaming.
> They will find a way in. They will run in when the doors are open.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 31, 2017, at 3:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I actually have a letter from the county saying that I don't need any
> > permits to build anything on our land. We are having a 24' x 40' garage
> > built beside the house now - no other contact with the "authorities"
> other
> > than the inquiry that resulted in the letter.
> >
> > The garage is to keep the rodents out of the car wiring, and to get the
> > gardening tools, mowers, etc. out of the hangar, maybe even the wood
> > working tools.
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On May 30, 2017 at 11:37 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 30 May 2017 15:18:57 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  Thanks for asking.
>  Nothing worthy just yet. Been focused on putting up the new shop, and
>  all the prep work for that [engineering, permits, etc, etc.]
> >>>
> >>> Permits? Out in the middle of the boonies?
> >>
> >> Good point. Who needs permits for outbuildings when you have a 14 mile
> >> driveway? Around here, if you have 40 acres and claim the outbuilding is
> >> for your farm, there's no requirement for a permit to build, but you
> might
> >> need an electrical permit to wire it for lights etc.
> >>
> >> Mitch.
> >>
> >> Mitch.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Craig
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> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
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> who
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> > for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 30 May 2017 22:05:20 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The list goes on and on... to date.. a bit more than $8,000 in permit
> fees and another $12,000 in engineering fees to produce drawings
> with engineers registered stamp for the various elements of the project.
> 
> All for a place to build Mercedes and restore them... and other
> projects...

Wow. $20k+ before you even break ground.


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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Looks pretty nice for a commie car.  (Communists in yurp rotated their 
stars to point down , especially on fin cars and 114/5s.  Max's Italian 
in-laws should be able to confirm this.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 3:32 PM
…it’s in the middle of nowhere…

https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html

Dang it.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No I went inside.

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> On May 31, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2017 at 4:04 PM OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> HAHAHAHAHA - - - you didn't last time I saw you, but she might have been
>> making a snide comment that way . . .
> 
> If he used the drive through window, she probably saw the old MBZ diesel and 
> rang it up as geezer before she ever saw him. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I use an app on my phone called cPro or something like that.

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> On May 31, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey - what's the national CL search site?  The old Crazedlist.com no longer
> exists.
> 
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> IIRC, a neighbor has one of those kits and the chassis to put it on that he
>> bought as an abandoned project. He's trying to clean up and reduce the
>> number of cars he has to focus more on airplanes. I can ask if he wants to
>> get rid of it cheep if you're really interested in creating Maxwell . . .
>> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:27 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, but how many of them are Maxwells?  ;)
>>> 
>>> -MMM-
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Mitch,
 
 I just looked at my national Craigslist search at lunch. And out of
>> maybe
 300 ads for a Mercedes between 1959 and 1967 I got over 20 of the
>>> Gazelles
 in the results.
 
 -D
 
> On May 31, 2017, at 3:17 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm halfway tempted to get a Gazelle, get rid of the Mercedes emblems
>>> and
> put "Maxwell" on it instead in honor of Jack Benny...
> 
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>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
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>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

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If you think building a garage will keep the rodents out you are dreaming. They 
will find a way in. They will run in when the doors are open.

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> On May 31, 2017, at 3:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote: 
> 
> I actually have a letter from the county saying that I don't need any
> permits to build anything on our land. We are having a 24' x 40' garage
> built beside the house now - no other contact with the "authorities" other
> than the inquiry that resulted in the letter.
> 
> The garage is to keep the rodents out of the car wiring, and to get the
> gardening tools, mowers, etc. out of the hangar, maybe even the wood
> working tools.
> 
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2017 at 11:37 PM Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 30 May 2017 15:18:57 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks for asking.
 Nothing worthy just yet. Been focused on putting up the new shop, and
 all the prep work for that [engineering, permits, etc, etc.]
>>> 
>>> Permits? Out in the middle of the boonies?
>> 
>> Good point. Who needs permits for outbuildings when you have a 14 mile
>> driveway? Around here, if you have 40 acres and claim the outbuilding is
>> for your farm, there's no requirement for a permit to build, but you might
>> need an electrical permit to wire it for lights etc.
>> 
>> Mitch.
>> 
>> Mitch.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Probably. She was way too friendly.

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> On May 31, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> She thinks you're hot, hope you got her phone number.
> -- 
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> '95 E300
> 
>> On May 31, 2017 2:13:07 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> So i am currently at Taco Bell and my total was less that I figured.
>> Looked at the receipt and the girl gave me senior discount. I don't
>> look that old do I?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not even much of a replica if you have a look at photos of the real 1929 
Mercedes SSK.


RB

On 31/05/2017 4:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Mercedes replicars.

Typically advertised as replicas of a 1930 something SSK or something like that…

-D





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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[OK Don via Mercedes]

OK - I just sent him an inquiry - if he does have one to sell, I'll put you
two in contact and get out of the middle.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:33 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IIRC, a neighbor has one of those kits and the chassis to put it on that
> he
> > bought as an abandoned project. He's trying to clean up and reduce the
> > number of cars he has to focus more on airplanes. I can ask if he wants
> to
> > get rid of it cheep if you're really interested in creating Maxwell . . .
> >
>
> Can't hurt to ask.   Keep me posted.   Thanks!  :D
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mercedes replicars.

Typically advertised as replicas of a 1930 something SSK or something like that…

-D


> On May 31, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rather odd that they advertise them as being Mercedes. Not much about them is 
> Mercedes.  A hoodstar maybe if someone springs for it but nothing else.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 31/05/2017 3:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Mercedes SSK.Gazelle kit cars on CL today:
>> 
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/6115653997.html
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6146852020.html
>> 
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/6119363483.html
>> 
>> https://modesto.craigslist.org/cto/6114162292.html
>> 
>> https://redding.craigslist.org/cto/6135798994.html
>> 
>> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6128136008.html
>> 
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/6116796326.html
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6150893754.html
>> 
>> https://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/6151654540.html
>> 
>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/6148456687.html
>> 
>> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/6151365735.html
>> 
>> https://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/6151432279.html
>> 
>> https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6147938738.html
>> 
>> https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6128462106.html
>> 
>> https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6138182866.html
>> 
>> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/6146000526.html
>> 
>> https://medford.craigslist.org/cto/6150113199.html
>> 
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6140388814.html
>> 
>> https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6111041799.html
>> 
>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6147723809.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Rather odd that they advertise them as being Mercedes. Not much about 
them is Mercedes.  A hoodstar maybe if someone springs for it but 
nothing else.


RB


On 31/05/2017 3:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Mercedes SSK.Gazelle kit cars on CL today:


https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/6115653997.html

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6146852020.html

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/6119363483.html

https://modesto.craigslist.org/cto/6114162292.html

https://redding.craigslist.org/cto/6135798994.html

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6128136008.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/6116796326.html

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6150893754.html

https://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/6151654540.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/6148456687.html

https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/6151365735.html

https://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/6151432279.html

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6147938738.html

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6128462106.html

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6138182866.html

https://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/6146000526.html

https://medford.craigslist.org/cto/6150113199.html

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6140388814.html

https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6111041799.html

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6147723809.html








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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mercedes SSK.Gazelle kit cars on CL today:


https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/6115653997.html

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6146852020.html

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/6119363483.html

https://modesto.craigslist.org/cto/6114162292.html

https://redding.craigslist.org/cto/6135798994.html

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6128136008.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/6116796326.html

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6150893754.html

https://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/6151654540.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/6148456687.html

https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/6151365735.html

https://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/6151432279.html

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6147938738.html

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6128462106.html

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6138182866.html

https://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/6146000526.html

https://medford.craigslist.org/cto/6150113199.html

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6140388814.html

https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6111041799.html

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6147723809.html






> On May 31, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Mitch,
> 
> I just looked at my national Craigslist search at lunch. And out of maybe 300 
> ads for a Mercedes between 1959 and 1967 I got over 20 of the Gazelles in the 
> results.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 31, 2017, at 3:17 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm halfway tempted to get a Gazelle, get rid of the Mercedes emblems and
>> put "Maxwell" on it instead in honor of Jack Benny...
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> IIRC, a neighbor has one of those kits and the chassis to put it on that he
> bought as an abandoned project. He's trying to clean up and reduce the
> number of cars he has to focus more on airplanes. I can ask if he wants to
> get rid of it cheep if you're really interested in creating Maxwell . . .
>

Can't hurt to ask.   Keep me posted.   Thanks!  :D

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[MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

…it’s in the middle of nowhere…

https://hanford.craigslist.org/cto/6155706026.html

Dang it.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I use a private subscription service specifically for cars on Craigslist called:

https://makemodelsearch.com

It’s $3.99/month, but they index CL roughly three times a day and have search 
filters for “newly listed” ads, too.  I was a little leery of paying for this 
since there’s not a lot of information about them, but so far it’s been great!

-D



> On May 31, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Searchtempest.com
> 
> Rick
>   Original Message  
> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:06 PM
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> Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits
> 
> Hey - what's the national CL search site? The old Crazedlist.com no longer
> exists.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb sez:

>‎You mean this car that is currently for sale?

http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/‎

It's not on CL or Ebay. 
 Is it on BaT?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

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> On May 31, 2017 at 4:04 PM OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> HAHAHAHAHA - - - you didn't last time I saw you, but she might have been
> making a snide comment that way . . .

If he used the drive through window, she probably saw the old MBZ diesel and 
rang it up as geezer before she ever saw him. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

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Searchtempest.com

Rick
  Original Message  
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

Hey - what's the national CL search site? The old Crazedlist.com no longer
exists.
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

OK Don wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHA - - - you didn't last time I saw you, but she might have been
> making a snide comment that way . . .

She is cougar.
tin.tin

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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Rich, great news for Fred and Curt

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How are the Iowa peaches?

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> According to the NY Slimes, those are fake peaches!  Better not eat em!
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> May 31, 2017 at 1:53 PM
>> With you or they is Fake news. SC is supposed to be peach-deprived.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

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Hey - what's the national CL search site?  The old Crazedlist.com no longer
exists.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> IIRC, a neighbor has one of those kits and the chassis to put it on that he
> bought as an abandoned project. He's trying to clean up and reduce the
> number of cars he has to focus more on airplanes. I can ask if he wants to
> get rid of it cheep if you're really interested in creating Maxwell . . .
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:27 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, but how many of them are Maxwells?  ;)
> >
> > -MMM-
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mitch,
> > >
> > > I just looked at my national Craigslist search at lunch. And out of
> maybe
> > > 300 ads for a Mercedes between 1959 and 1967 I got over 20 of the
> > Gazelles
> > > in the results.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > > On May 31, 2017, at 3:17 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm halfway tempted to get a Gazelle, get rid of the Mercedes emblems
> > and
> > > > put "Maxwell" on it instead in honor of Jack Benny...
> > > >
> > > > -MMM-
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[OK Don via Mercedes]

HAHAHAHAHA - - - you didn't last time I saw you, but she might have been
making a snide comment that way . . .

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So i am currently at Taco Bell and my total was less that I figured.
> Looked at the receipt and the girl gave me senior discount. I don't look
> that old do I?
>
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Re: [MBZ] GM in hot water over diesel emissions

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For sure - good catch!

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> Andrew wrote:
> > General Motors under scrutiny for diesel emissions
>
> Is this backlash against USA abanconment of global climate change accords?
> mao.man
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[OK Don via Mercedes]

IIRC, a neighbor has one of those kits and the chassis to put it on that he
bought as an abandoned project. He's trying to clean up and reduce the
number of cars he has to focus more on airplanes. I can ask if he wants to
get rid of it cheep if you're really interested in creating Maxwell . . .

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:27 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, but how many of them are Maxwells?  ;)
>
> -MMM-
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mitch,
> >
> > I just looked at my national Craigslist search at lunch. And out of maybe
> > 300 ads for a Mercedes between 1959 and 1967 I got over 20 of the
> Gazelles
> > in the results.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On May 31, 2017, at 3:17 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm halfway tempted to get a Gazelle, get rid of the Mercedes emblems
> and
> > > put "Maxwell" on it instead in honor of Jack Benny...
> > >
> > > -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 138, Issue 228

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I actually have a letter from the county saying that I don't need any
permits to build anything on our land. We are having a 24' x 40' garage
built beside the house now - no other contact with the "authorities" other
than the inquiry that resulted in the letter.

The garage is to keep the rodents out of the car wiring, and to get the
gardening tools, mowers, etc. out of the hangar, maybe even the wood
working tools.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On May 30, 2017 at 11:37 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 30 May 2017 15:18:57 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for asking.
> > > Nothing worthy just yet. Been focused on putting up the new shop, and
> > > all the prep work for that [engineering, permits, etc, etc.]
> >
> > Permits? Out in the middle of the boonies?
>
> Good point. Who needs permits for outbuildings when you have a 14 mile
> driveway? Around here, if you have 40 acres and claim the outbuilding is
> for your farm, there's no requirement for a permit to build, but you might
> need an electrical permit to wire it for lights etc.
>
> Mitch.
>
> Mitch.
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

She thinks you're hot, hope you got her phone number.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 31, 2017 2:13:07 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So i am currently at Taco Bell and my total was less that I figured.
>Looked at the receipt and the girl gave me senior discount. I don't
>look that old do I?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You mean this car that is currently for sale?
>
> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I was
> > there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd moved,
> > though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you.
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and lots
> of
> >> craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
> >> insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I loved
> it.
> >> When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that lead
> to
> >> a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
> trying to
> >> cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
> difficult
> >> things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring that
> had
> >> been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a huge
> >> house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses with small
> >> rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
> >>
> >> Don Snook
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>
> >> I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
> house.
> >> It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house built
> >> today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little wind blows
> >> such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by Kaleb.
> >> Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned by its
> >> owners.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
>  On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>  Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
> >> sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth trees
> that
> >> are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still good.  A
> >> foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would definitely be a long
> >> term project.  Would you try to restore and flip? Or turn it into a
> rental?
> >> Or several apartments?
> 
>  Don Snook
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>  Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> 
>  I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of curiosity on
> >> the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it looked
> >> interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to need a LOT
> of
> >> work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house with
> >> impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  Alot or most of
> >> the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to the ends of the
> roof
> >> studs (not sure what you call it) as well as sofet (sp) is rotted and
> will
> >> require replacement.  Floors are uneven in some spots as you would
> expect
> >> in an old house and that does not really concern me much.  All of the
> >> windows in the house are the old original wood framed windows and have
> >> storm windows installed on the outside.  These are these big old windows
> >> you dont see in houses anymore.  Wife says they all need to be replaced
> but
> >> I told her these unlike new windows can be repaired, or so I think.
> Just
> >> need to to have all the old paint scraped out, remove the old putty that
> >> holds the glass in and replace.  No they are probably not as efficient
> as
> >> new windows.  On one side of the house they have 2 or 3 huge concrete
> >> pillars/supports of some sort which butt up against the foundation,
> almost
> >> sort of like buttresses on a cathedral.  The only thing I can figure is
> the
> >> foundation started pushing out like it does on old houses and these were
> >> installed to hold it in.  I have seen other old houses where they have
> >> drilled holes in the header plate or foundation with cables stretched
> >> across from one side of the house to the other attached to metal plates
> on
> >> the outside of the house which can then be tightened as needed to adjust
> >> the foundation. The other side of the house looks like its going to 

Re: [MBZ] Way beyond OT - Replacing CA avocado groves with coffee plantations

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

costs too much to rip em out when corn'n'beans are not worth cost of 
production.


As is, I think they get taxed as forest rather than field.  MUCH lower 
taxes



Mountain Man via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 2:14 PM

Abandoned vineyards will retool to more lucrative crop. THC
tin.man


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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Rich, great news for Fred and Curt

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

According to the NY Slimes, those are fake peaches!  Better not eat em!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 1:53 PM
With you or they is Fake news. SC is supposed to be peach-deprived.


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