Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

This type of blown in insulation can create a moisture problem (rot and 
termites) if there is no moisture barrier in the inside walls.  I presume the 
inside walls are plaster on lathe, which would almost certainly lack a moisture 
barrier.  The same goes for vinyl siding.  There are paints that offer some 
resistance to moisture migration but they are a poor substitute for plastic 
sheeting.  

The existence of all those holes implies the previous owner wasn't happy with 
HVAC costs.  A better strategy (vs insulation) may be sealing air leaks and a 
high-efficiency mini-split heat pump system that only heats/cools rooms as 
needed

In my old house I sealed all ceiling perforations and then blew insulation in 
attic, maybe 16 in deep.  But I used many cases of caulk to seal all gaps from 
the baseboard and the ceiling.  In my opinion,  air leaks are a bigger problem 
than heat conduction through walls.  My windows were not original so I replaced 
them all with vinyl (very quiet and airtight).  

I wouldn’t worry too much about the electrical and plumbing.  My builder wanted 
to rip down the lathe-plaster walls to do minor (IMO) electrical work (add 
outlets).  So I pulled and terminated new romex DIY and left long pigtails for 
the electrician to connect to his new breaker box.  I had a plumber replace ALL 
the supply plumbing with PEX and (almost) all the waste plumbing with PVC.  
Plumbing and electrical materials are not very expensive but the professional 
labor is.  I think one chandelier cost more than all the wire, boxes, outlets, 
etc.

I see this like rust on an old Mercedes.  If the foundation is OK (or fixable) 
and the framing (joists, rafters, studs) is OK it might be worth a try, 
assuming you have plenty of spare time.

Scott
---

> Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
> Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
> What is under the vinyl siding?
> 
> RB
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[MBZ] Evaporating ATF

[clay via Mercedes]

I had done a filter and fluid on the ATF for Allen in March.  It was being less 
than happy at shifts and cold start required a spool up to get movement to 
engage.  I was pretty sure that fluid was not an issue, as it was fresh and 
full, but I gave it a peek last night and found the fluid was at least a quart 
low.   I had not thought I had seen a leak from the pan, but maybe it was 
evaporating, or I must have forgotten to check the fluid a few days after the 
filter change and adjust.  This far past that date, I just installed the quart 
of ATF and called it good.  I will re-check in a day or so and adjust.

AS for the prior post about things alighting, I meant to say that was for Polei 
and her blue lights.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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[MBZ] ITS ALIGHT!

[clay via Mercedes]

Well, sort of.  I did the placement of the bubble gum lamps and filler.  The 
sanding went well, as did the primer application.  Then I found that my white 
paint was not on the shelf.  I had to run off to the paint shop for a few 
rattle cans of white.  I was hoping for the $1.33 stuff I got last year, but 
ended up with Rustoleum automotive paint.  Five cans, two for the initial spray 
(first did a spotty coat all over) the roof is now white, but there was a fuzzy 
area that needed a better sanding to smooth out.  After putting some 400 then 
600 grit on it, I did the third can.  I have to wait a few days before I whip 
out the sanding blocks for doing a shine (800-3000 grit).

Now I need to build a set of covers for the lights so I can drive the car 
without making smokey all excited.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Last I knew, Jaime was looking to get a set of four or five spare tires that 
had never left their respective trunks. 
Mitch. 

> On June 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Unused?  I have 4 14" bundts with tires on them.  The tires are worthless. 
> But, the rims are nice.  They are not new, but in nice shape.  I can take 
> some pictures later if somebody really wants them. 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Kopchinski [mailto:jaime...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:03 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims
> 
> It's true... got any unused spares?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:09 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Jaime wanted some!!!
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have some 14" bundts in very good shape that I would be glad to 
> > > sell very cheap just to get rid of them!
> > >
> > > Don Snook
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Karl Wittnebel [mailto:atypical...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
> > > Cc: MG 
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims
> > >
> > > Chinese replicas on ebay but supposedly decent ones rated by german 
> > > transit authority. Search archives.
> > >
> > > On May 31, 2017 4:02 AM, "MG via Mercedes" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Who was it that had some 15" bundt wheels for sale?
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[OK Don via Mercedes]

SDL: Yes - it worked great. I found that the wires to the dual sensor on
the head had been switched - changing position made the AC run like it was
supposed to.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Did the ac work when I got it? I remember it had that annoying driveshaft
> vibration. I had 3 or 4 SDLs at the time so sold that one. I do remember
> seeing what had to have been that car on Craigslist a while later for cheap.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > The clear coat on the SDL ws going in large patches before I bought it -
> > that plus the non-working A/C in July in OK allowed me to get the price
> > down where I needed it.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The only ok don car I have seen with good clearcoat was the ML. The SDL
> >> had something going on with it too I think. I sort of wish I still had
> that
> >> car.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> HAHAHA - yup, no covered parking, so the sun burns the clear coat off.
> >> The
> >>> clear coat on that car started going soon after I brought it home.
> >>>
> >>> All the MBs that I've bought have had failing clear coat - part of the
> >>> bottom feeder ethic.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about
> all
>  cars here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What
>  happened to the paint?
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >
> > Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
> >
> >> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You mean this car that is currently for sale?
> >>
> >> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> >>> 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I
> >>> was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd
> >>> moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people,
>  not you.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and
>  lots
> >> of
>  craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
>  insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I
>  loved
> >> it.
>  When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that
>  lead
> >> to
>  a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
> >> trying to
>  cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
> >> difficult
>  things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring
>  that
> >> had
>  been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't
> a
>  huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses
>  with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
> 
>  Don Snook
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> 
>  I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in
> this
> >> house.
>  It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house
>  built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little
>  wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by
>  Kaleb.
>  Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it 

Re: [MBZ] Rolling Coal Once Again

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On June 1, 2017 at 4:55 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is that what happened today?
> Mind you, this is not politics - this is government action.
> mao
>

Is this what you're talking about?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/01/investing/coal-mine-trump-paris-speech/

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Re: [MBZ] A potential poos flip

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Those are almost all gone, so the next higher mileage tier is now in great
demand.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I thought BATmobiles had 150k or less on the odometers?
> Mitch.
> > On June 1, 2017 at 6:53 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6131330998.html
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Re: [MBZ] A potential poos flip

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I thought BATmobiles had 150k or less on the odometers?
Mitch. 
> On June 1, 2017 at 6:53 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6131330998.html

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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I remember they guy that owned the mercury dealership built a house with 
a bomb shelter in about 1963.  I thought it was pretty cool!



Mountain Man via Mercedes 
June 1, 2017 at 4:01 PM

The 1950's domicile here has bomb shelter it is suggested.
tin.man


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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1!


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM
he should jack it to at least 16ft so he has room for a ramp and drive 
in garage with a lift under the house.


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[MBZ] A potential poos flip

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1984 Mercedes-Benz 300D Turbo Diesel
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6131330998.html

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Re: [MBZ] Rolling Coal Once Again

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 16:08:23 -0600
Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:55:47 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Is that what happened today?
> > Mind you, this is not politics - this is government action.
> 
> May the miners in West Virginia and elsewhere have hope of a turn around
> of their situation.
 
> Craig
> 
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Probably not until the price of gas goes up quite a bit. Duke Energy is in the 
process of building a gas operated plant here in Crystal River, and a large 
diameter gas line from out of state is being built to feed it and future plants 
downstate.

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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sure, and I'm sure I could fix it but its either a ton of time doing it 
yourself or a ton of money paying somebody else to do it. If the rot is really 
bad it could be a bunch of money and a bunch of time...
You can jack a house like that yourself, get a couple of the 5 ton bottle 
jacks, screw jacks would be good too if you can find old ones. Lots of 4x4s.

-Curt


  From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
   
It must be bad if the Maine guy says that. You guys are used to dealing with 
this sort of thing I thought?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Run away. Money pit...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
>      From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> To: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  
> Cc: Randy Bennell 
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that 
>> are curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
>> bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
>> termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame 
>> at the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
>> centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past 
>> but does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put 
>> under the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best 
>> handled by one of those foundation repair places.
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
>> 
> Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
> Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
> What is under the vinyl siding?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It was still in great shape when I sold it way way way way way too cheap last 
year. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The ML was too new - only one made in this century that I owned - though
> I'm guessing it's going by now . . .
> 
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The only ok don car I have seen with good clearcoat was the ML. The SDL
>> had something going on with it too I think. I sort of wish I still had that
>> car.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> HAHAHA - yup, no covered parking, so the sun burns the clear coat off.
>> The
>>> clear coat on that car started going soon after I brought it home.
>>> 
>>> All the MBs that I've bought have had failing clear coat - part of the
>>> bottom feeder ethic.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about all
 cars here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What
 happened to the paint?
> 
> Don Snook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> 
> Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You mean this car that is currently for sale?
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>>> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I
>>> was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd
>>> moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people,
 not you.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and
 lots
>> of
 craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
 insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I
 loved
>> it.
 When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that
 lead
>> to
 a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
>> trying to
 cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
>> difficult
 things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring
 that
>> had
 been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a
 huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses
 with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
 
 Don Snook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
 
 I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
>> house.
 It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house
 built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little
 wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by
 Kaleb.
 Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned
 by its owners.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing
>> I'm
 sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth
 trees
>> that
 are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still
 good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would
 definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and
 flip? Or turn it into a
>> rental?
 Or several apartments?
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 

Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Did the ac work when I got it? I remember it had that annoying driveshaft 
vibration. I had 3 or 4 SDLs at the time so sold that one. I do remember seeing 
what had to have been that car on Craigslist a while later for cheap. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The clear coat on the SDL ws going in large patches before I bought it -
> that plus the non-working A/C in July in OK allowed me to get the price
> down where I needed it.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The only ok don car I have seen with good clearcoat was the ML. The SDL
>> had something going on with it too I think. I sort of wish I still had that
>> car.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> HAHAHA - yup, no covered parking, so the sun burns the clear coat off.
>> The
>>> clear coat on that car started going soon after I brought it home.
>>> 
>>> All the MBs that I've bought have had failing clear coat - part of the
>>> bottom feeder ethic.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about all
 cars here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What
 happened to the paint?
> 
> Don Snook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> 
> Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You mean this car that is currently for sale?
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>>> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I
>>> was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd
>>> moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people,
 not you.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and
 lots
>> of
 craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
 insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I
 loved
>> it.
 When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that
 lead
>> to
 a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
>> trying to
 cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
>> difficult
 things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring
 that
>> had
 been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a
 huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses
 with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
 
 Don Snook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
 
 I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
>> house.
 It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house
 built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little
 wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by
 Kaleb.
 Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned
 by its owners.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing
>> I'm
 sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth
 trees
>> that
 are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still
 good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would

Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The first step will be to stop the leaking and repair the rot in the roof. Its 
clearly leaked in the past as evidenced by the replaced roof decking.
Rot is like rust in a car, what you can see is a small portion of what there 
is...
-Curt


  From: OK Don 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
   
It's not like he needs another project, he must be getting bored working on old 
MBs. Since it would be a hobby, not a business, being a money pit (which it 
will be) might not be an issue.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Run away. Money pit...

-Curt


      From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that are 
> curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
> bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
> termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame 
> at the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
> centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past 
> but does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put 
> under the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best 
> handled by one of those foundation repair places.
>
> http://okiebenz.com/pics/ Oldhouse/
>
Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
What is under the vinyl siding?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The ML was too new - only one made in this century that I owned - though
I'm guessing it's going by now . . .

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The only ok don car I have seen with good clearcoat was the ML. The SDL
> had something going on with it too I think. I sort of wish I still had that
> car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > HAHAHA - yup, no covered parking, so the sun burns the clear coat off.
> The
> > clear coat on that car started going soon after I brought it home.
> >
> > All the MBs that I've bought have had failing clear coat - part of the
> > bottom feeder ethic.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about all
> >> cars here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What
> >> happened to the paint?
> >>>
> >>> Don Snook
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>>
> >>> Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
> >>>
>  On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  You mean this car that is currently for sale?
> 
>  http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> > 
>  wrote:
> >
> > I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I
> > was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd
> > moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people,
> >> not you.
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and
> >> lots
>  of
> >> craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
> >> insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I
> >> loved
>  it.
> >> When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that
> >> lead
>  to
> >> a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
>  trying to
> >> cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
>  difficult
> >> things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring
> >> that
>  had
> >> been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a
> >> huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses
> >> with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
> >>
> >> Don Snook
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>
> >> I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
>  house.
> >> It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house
> >> built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little
> >> wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by
> >> Kaleb.
> >> Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned
> >> by its owners.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
>  On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>  Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing
> I'm
> >> sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth
> >> trees
>  that
> >> are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still
> >> good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would
> >> definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and
> >> flip? Or turn it into a
>  rental?
> >> Or several apartments?
> 
>  Don Snook
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>  Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house 

Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It must be bad if the Maine guy says that. You guys are used to dealing with 
this sort of thing I thought?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Run away. Money pit...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
>  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> To: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  
> Cc: Randy Bennell 
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that 
>> are curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
>> bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
>> termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame 
>> at the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
>> centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past 
>> but does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put 
>> under the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best 
>> handled by one of those foundation repair places.
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
>> 
> Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
> Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
> What is under the vinyl siding?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, and I have never seen a fix like that before.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably not as I think they are only on the one side.
> There is concrete between the pile and the foundation I think which is 
> intended to prevent the foundation from spreading outward.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 5:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
>> The large concrete piles - could they have been used to lift the
>> structure in the past?
>> tin.tin
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The clear coat on the SDL ws going in large patches before I bought it -
that plus the non-working A/C in July in OK allowed me to get the price
down where I needed it.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The only ok don car I have seen with good clearcoat was the ML. The SDL
> had something going on with it too I think. I sort of wish I still had that
> car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > HAHAHA - yup, no covered parking, so the sun burns the clear coat off.
> The
> > clear coat on that car started going soon after I brought it home.
> >
> > All the MBs that I've bought have had failing clear coat - part of the
> > bottom feeder ethic.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about all
> >> cars here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What
> >> happened to the paint?
> >>>
> >>> Don Snook
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>>
> >>> Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
> >>>
>  On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  You mean this car that is currently for sale?
> 
>  http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> > 
>  wrote:
> >
> > I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I
> > was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd
> > moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people,
> >> not you.
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and
> >> lots
>  of
> >> craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
> >> insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I
> >> loved
>  it.
> >> When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that
> >> lead
>  to
> >> a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
>  trying to
> >> cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
>  difficult
> >> things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring
> >> that
>  had
> >> been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a
> >> huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses
> >> with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
> >>
> >> Don Snook
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>
> >> I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
>  house.
> >> It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house
> >> built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little
> >> wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by
> >> Kaleb.
> >> Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned
> >> by its owners.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
>  On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>  Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing
> I'm
> >> sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth
> >> trees
>  that
> >> are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still
> >> good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would
> >> definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and
> >> flip? Or turn it into a
>  rental?
> >> Or several apartments?
> 
>  Don Snook
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>  Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 

Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

>From taking to the neighbor they said they were put in to stabilize the 
>foundation from moving out further. 

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The large concrete piles - could they have been used to lift the
> structure in the past?
> tin.tin
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That crossed my mind. I always wanted a big old house like that out in the 
country. You never find it unless it's some big million dollar estate.

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> If you are going to have a mover lift it, just keep going and have him move
> it to the Benz Ranch, set it on the new foundation you'll have ready, and
> move in. You love the old house, but not where it's located (not enough
> room for 40 MBs). Then rent the one you're in now, or have it moved to the
> city lot you'll get with the old house.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don't know exactly. But, he is a Highway Patrolman and his wife is a
>> small town attorney that doesn't make that much.  They are pretty frugal. I
>> asked him how it could possibly be worth it to have it done and he said
>> they loved their old house and it was much cheaper than he thought it would
>> be.
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 3:15 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
>> 
>> Just got giggles any idea how much that cost him?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a friend that actually just finished doing exactly that.  His
>> house is 100+ years old and they had a basement dug and new foundation
>> poured and put the house back.  He said it was a longish project, but not
>> as expensive as they had anticipated.
>>> 
>>> Don Snook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:58 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
>>> 
>>> Get an estimate from a house mover to jack it up, tear out the old
>> basement, pour new 9' (or 10') walls; then put in a new floor.  That would
>> give you a good usable basement that can be finished.  You could even build
>> a bomb shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.
>>> 
>>> If you think you might live there, i'd do this for sure!
 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  June 1,
 2017 at 1:46 PM I went back over to that house today and took a few
 photos for those that are curious. There are a couple of photos I did
 not take. In the downstairs bathroom they have built a closet around
 the hot water tank. There are old termite trails/slight damage in the
 wall behind that. Also in the door frame at the top there is more
 severe termite damage on that same wall. There are centricon bait
 stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but does
 not appear to now.
 Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under the house or
 foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by
 one of those foundation repair places.
 
 http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The only ok don car I have seen with good clearcoat was the ML. The SDL had 
something going on with it too I think. I sort of wish I still had that car.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> HAHAHA - yup, no covered parking, so the sun burns the clear coat off. The
> clear coat on that car started going soon after I brought it home.
> 
> All the MBs that I've bought have had failing clear coat - part of the
> bottom feeder ethic.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about all
>> cars here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What
>> happened to the paint?
>>> 
>>> Don Snook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
>>> 
>>> Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
>>> 
 On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 You mean this car that is currently for sale?
 
 http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> 
 wrote:
> 
> I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I
> was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd
> moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people,
>> not you.
> 
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and
>> lots
 of
>> craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
>> insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I
>> loved
 it.
>> When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that
>> lead
 to
>> a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
 trying to
>> cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
 difficult
>> things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring
>> that
 had
>> been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a
>> huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses
>> with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
>> 
>> I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
 house.
>> It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house
>> built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little
>> wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by
>> Kaleb.
>> Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned
>> by its owners.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
 Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
>> sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth
>> trees
 that
>> are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still
>> good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would
>> definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and
>> flip? Or turn it into a
 rental?
>> Or several apartments?
 
 Don Snook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
 Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
 
 I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of
 curiosity on
>> the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it
>> looked interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to
>> need a LOT
 of
>> work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house
>> with impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  Alot
>> or 

Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It's not like he needs another project, he must be getting bored working on
old MBs. Since it would be a hobby, not a business, being a money pit
(which it will be) might not be an issue.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Run away. Money pit...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  To: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> Cc: Randy Bennell 
>  Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:59 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
>
> On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those
> that are curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the
> downstairs bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank.
> There are old termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in
> the door frame at the top there is more severe termite damage on that same
> wall. There are centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had
> termites in the past but does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs
> those cable ties put under the house or foundation replaced in sections?
> Most likely a job best handled by one of those foundation repair places.
> >
> > http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
> >
> Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
> Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
> What is under the vinyl siding?
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes that is true.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IF it is not a labour of love that you plan to live in, then just forget it. 
> You are already a busy man with too many projects on the go and you are not 
> getting younger.
> It will not end well.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 3:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm looking to pay cash raised by selling a few vehicles, if I were to do 
>> it. Since my only expense would be about $400 a year in taxes and insurance, 
>> I would not have a lot of carrying costs. Plan would be to start with 
>> foundation within a year or 2. Actually before that probably start by repair 
>> wood rot from lack of gutters along the front face of roof. My estimate this 
>> would probably be a 5-10 year sort of project unless a person took out a 
>> huge loan and did it all at once.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Run away. Money pit...

-Curt


  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  
Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
   
On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that are 
> curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
> bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
> termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame 
> at the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
> centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past 
> but does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put 
> under the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best 
> handled by one of those foundation repair places.
>
> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
>
Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
What is under the vinyl siding?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Rolling Coal Once Again

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:55:47 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Is that what happened today?
> Mind you, this is not politics - this is government action.

May the miners in West Virginia and elsewhere have hope of a turn around
of their situation.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

The Lord only knows what all that would cost but THAT is an interesting 
idea.


RB

On 01/06/2017 4:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

If you are going to have a mover lift it, just keep going and have him move
it to the Benz Ranch, set it on the new foundation you'll have ready, and
move in. You love the old house, but not where it's located (not enough
room for 40 MBs). Then rent the one you're in now, or have it moved to the
city lot you'll get with the old house.




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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Probably not as I think they are only on the one side.
There is concrete between the pile and the foundation I think which is 
intended to prevent the foundation from spreading outward.


RB

On 01/06/2017 5:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

The large concrete piles - could they have been used to lift the
structure in the past?
tin.tin






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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

The large concrete piles - could they have been used to lift the
structure in the past?
tin.tin

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[OK Don via Mercedes]

If you are going to have a mover lift it, just keep going and have him move
it to the Benz Ranch, set it on the new foundation you'll have ready, and
move in. You love the old house, but not where it's located (not enough
room for 40 MBs). Then rent the one you're in now, or have it moved to the
city lot you'll get with the old house.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't know exactly. But, he is a Highway Patrolman and his wife is a
> small town attorney that doesn't make that much.  They are pretty frugal. I
> asked him how it could possibly be worth it to have it done and he said
> they loved their old house and it was much cheaper than he thought it would
> be.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 3:15 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
>
> Just got giggles any idea how much that cost him?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a friend that actually just finished doing exactly that.  His
> house is 100+ years old and they had a basement dug and new foundation
> poured and put the house back.  He said it was a longish project, but not
> as expensive as they had anticipated.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:58 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
> >
> > Get an estimate from a house mover to jack it up, tear out the old
> basement, pour new 9' (or 10') walls; then put in a new floor.  That would
> give you a good usable basement that can be finished.  You could even build
> a bomb shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.
> >
> > If you think you might live there, i'd do this for sure!
> >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  June 1,
> >> 2017 at 1:46 PM I went back over to that house today and took a few
> >> photos for those that are curious. There are a couple of photos I did
> >> not take. In the downstairs bathroom they have built a closet around
> >> the hot water tank. There are old termite trails/slight damage in the
> >> wall behind that. Also in the door frame at the top there is more
> >> severe termite damage on that same wall. There are centricon bait
> >> stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but does
> >> not appear to now.
> >> Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under the house or
> >> foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by
> >> one of those foundation repair places.
> >>
> >> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[OK Don via Mercedes]

HAHAHA - yup, no covered parking, so the sun burns the clear coat off. The
clear coat on that car started going soon after I brought it home.

All the MBs that I've bought have had failing clear coat - part of the
bottom feeder ethic.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about all
> cars here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What
> happened to the paint?
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >
> > Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
> >
> >> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You mean this car that is currently for sale?
> >>
> >> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> >>> 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I
> >>> was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd
> >>> moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people,
> not you.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and
>  lots
> >> of
>  craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little
>  insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I
>  loved
> >> it.
>  When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that
>  lead
> >> to
>  a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
> >> trying to
>  cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
> >> difficult
>  things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring
>  that
> >> had
>  been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a
>  huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses
>  with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
> 
>  Don Snook
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> 
>  I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
> >> house.
>  It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house
>  built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little
>  wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by
> Kaleb.
>  Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned
>  by its owners.
> >
> > RB
> >
> >> On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
>  sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth
>  trees
> >> that
>  are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still
>  good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would
>  definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and
>  flip? Or turn it into a
> >> rental?
>  Or several apartments?
> >>
> >> Don Snook
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>
> >> I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of
> >> curiosity on
>  the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it
>  looked interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to
>  need a LOT
> >> of
>  work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house
>  with impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  Alot
>  or most of the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to
>  the ends of the
> >> roof
>  studs (not sure what you call it) as well as sofet (sp) is rotted
>  and
> >> will
>  require replacement.  Floors are uneven in some spots as you would
> >> expect
>  in an old house and that does 

Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I don't know exactly. But, he is a Highway Patrolman and his wife is a small 
town attorney that doesn't make that much.  They are pretty frugal. I asked him 
how it could possibly be worth it to have it done and he said they loved their 
old house and it was much cheaper than he thought it would be. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 3:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

Just got giggles any idea how much that cost him?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a friend that actually just finished doing exactly that.  His house is 
> 100+ years old and they had a basement dug and new foundation poured and put 
> the house back.  He said it was a longish project, but not as expensive as 
> they had anticipated. 
> 
> Don Snook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:58 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
> 
> Get an estimate from a house mover to jack it up, tear out the old basement, 
> pour new 9' (or 10') walls; then put in a new floor.  That would give you a 
> good usable basement that can be finished.  You could even build a bomb 
> shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.
> 
> If you think you might live there, i'd do this for sure!
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  June 1,
>> 2017 at 1:46 PM I went back over to that house today and took a few 
>> photos for those that are curious. There are a couple of photos I did 
>> not take. In the downstairs bathroom they have built a closet around 
>> the hot water tank. There are old termite trails/slight damage in the 
>> wall behind that. Also in the door frame at the top there is more 
>> severe termite damage on that same wall. There are centricon bait 
>> stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but does 
>> not appear to now.
>> Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under the house or 
>> foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by 
>> one of those foundation repair places.
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

IF it is not a labour of love that you plan to live in, then just forget 
it. You are already a busy man with too many projects on the go and you 
are not getting younger.

It will not end well.

RB

On 01/06/2017 3:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I'm looking to pay cash raised by selling a few vehicles, if I were to do it. 
Since my only expense would be about $400 a year in taxes and insurance, I 
would not have a lot of carrying costs. Plan would be to start with foundation 
within a year or 2. Actually before that probably start by repair wood rot from 
lack of gutters along the front face of roof. My estimate this would probably 
be a 5-10 year sort of project unless a person took out a huge loan and did it 
all at once.




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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> You could even build a bomb
> shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.

The 1950's domicile here has bomb shelter it is suggested.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It does not have a basement just crawl space. I think it's approx 2400sqft over 
2 stories. 

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Shouldn't take many calls to get a rough estimate.
> How big is the house - sqare footage of main floor?
> How deep is the basement?
> How much does concrete cost right now - per yard off of the truck?
> With that info alone you could roughly calculate the cost of the materials.
> 
> Going to be a bunch more to lift the house off and support it and dig the old 
> foundation out and remove it and haul it away, and then put in the forms and 
> pour new footings and walls etc.
> 
> Prices here are no doubt different but a basic example is that my son built a 
> new garage last summer.
> We built the forms and tied the rebar etc so no labour in that part.
> The garage floor is 24 X 28 and 6 inches thick through the middle. 18 inches 
> thick around the exterior for a couple of feet.
> $1K worth of gravel under the floor.
> $7K for the concrete and the fellows who poured it and made it nice and 
> smooth.
> So, add in the form material and the steel and the floor alone cost about 
> $10K.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 3:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you 
>> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. 
>> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done 
>> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out 
>> loud at this point.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Lol!

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> he should jack it to at least 16ft so he has room for a ramp and drive in 
> garage with a lift under the house.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 6/1/17 4:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> Shouldn't take many calls to get a rough estimate.
>> How big is the house - sqare footage of main floor?
>> How deep is the basement?
>> How much does concrete cost right now - per yard off of the truck?
>> With that info alone you could roughly calculate the cost of the materials.
>> 
>> Going to be a bunch more to lift the house off and support it and dig the 
>> old foundation out and remove it and haul it away, and then put in the forms 
>> and pour new footings and walls etc.
>> 
>> Prices here are no doubt different but a basic example is that my son built 
>> a new garage last summer.
>> We built the forms and tied the rebar etc so no labour in that part.
>> The garage floor is 24 X 28 and 6 inches thick through the middle. 18 inches 
>> thick around the exterior for a couple of feet.
>> $1K worth of gravel under the floor.
>> $7K for the concrete and the fellows who poured it and made it nice and 
>> smooth.
>> So, add in the form material and the steel and the floor alone cost about 
>> $10K.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 01/06/2017 3:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you 
>>> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. 
>>> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done 
>>> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out 
>>> loud at this point.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

We have good renters now. They pay on time, we don't hear anything out of them 
except to ask for address to mail check. They might want to buy it at the end 
of their lease. I might consider selling it then. 

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> AND keep in mind your record as a landlord.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 3:37 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> If you're going to do the math, you had better figure on a worst case 
>> scenario and what the current market value would be for similar houses in 
>> your area before you do anything.
>> 
>> Also consider the cost of the money you're borrowing to buy it, assuming 
>> you're not paying cash.
>> 
>> And would you have the time to do the work, and a realistic time frame to 
>> complete it. Then factor in about 10% of your total for unforeseen expenses.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you 
>>> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. 
>>> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done 
>>> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out 
>>> loud at this point.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm looking to pay cash raised by selling a few vehicles, if I were to do it. 
Since my only expense would be about $400 a year in taxes and insurance, I 
would not have a lot of carrying costs. Plan would be to start with foundation 
within a year or 2. Actually before that probably start by repair wood rot from 
lack of gutters along the front face of roof. My estimate this would probably 
be a 5-10 year sort of project unless a person took out a huge loan and did it 
all at once. 

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> If you're going to do the math, you had better figure on a worst case 
> scenario and what the current market value would be for similar houses in 
> your area before you do anything.
> 
> Also consider the cost of the money you're borrowing to buy it, assuming 
> you're not paying cash.
> 
> And would you have the time to do the work, and a realistic time frame to 
> complete it. Then factor in about 10% of your total for unforeseen expenses.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you 
>> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. 
>> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done 
>> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out 
>> loud at this point. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Vinyl siding can be removed easier than removing and repalacing  a 
>>> foundation. That should be enough to make one run unless it was grandma's 
>>> house and one has to have it.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 01/06/2017 2:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 Vinyl siding on old house -- RUN AWAY!!!
 
 --FT
 
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[MBZ] Rolling Coal Once Again

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Is that what happened today?
Mind you, this is not politics - this is government action.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

he should jack it to at least 16ft so he has room for a ramp and drive 
in garage with a lift under the house.


--FT


On 6/1/17 4:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Shouldn't take many calls to get a rough estimate.
How big is the house - sqare footage of main floor?
How deep is the basement?
How much does concrete cost right now - per yard off of the truck?
With that info alone you could roughly calculate the cost of the 
materials.


Going to be a bunch more to lift the house off and support it and dig 
the old foundation out and remove it and haul it away, and then put in 
the forms and pour new footings and walls etc.


Prices here are no doubt different but a basic example is that my son 
built a new garage last summer.

We built the forms and tied the rebar etc so no labour in that part.
The garage floor is 24 X 28 and 6 inches thick through the middle. 18 
inches thick around the exterior for a couple of feet.

$1K worth of gravel under the floor.
$7K for the concrete and the fellows who poured it and made it nice 
and smooth.
So, add in the form material and the steel and the floor alone cost 
about $10K.


RB

On 01/06/2017 3:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming 
you picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 
45k in. Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to 
have been done but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's 
all just thinking out loud at this point.






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petty,
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Shouldn't take many calls to get a rough estimate.
How big is the house - sqare footage of main floor?
How deep is the basement?
How much does concrete cost right now - per yard off of the truck?
With that info alone you could roughly calculate the cost of the materials.

Going to be a bunch more to lift the house off and support it and dig 
the old foundation out and remove it and haul it away, and then put in 
the forms and pour new footings and walls etc.


Prices here are no doubt different but a basic example is that my son 
built a new garage last summer.

We built the forms and tied the rebar etc so no labour in that part.
The garage floor is 24 X 28 and 6 inches thick through the middle. 18 
inches thick around the exterior for a couple of feet.

$1K worth of gravel under the floor.
$7K for the concrete and the fellows who poured it and made it nice and 
smooth.
So, add in the form material and the steel and the floor alone cost 
about $10K.


RB

On 01/06/2017 3:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you picked 
it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. Still have 
room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done but would have 
to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out loud at this point.





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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

AND keep in mind your record as a landlord.

RB

On 01/06/2017 3:37 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

If you're going to do the math, you had better figure on a worst case scenario 
and what the current market value would be for similar houses in your area 
before you do anything.

Also consider the cost of the money you're borrowing to buy it, assuming you're 
not paying cash.

And would you have the time to do the work, and a realistic time frame to 
complete it. Then factor in about 10% of your total for unforeseen expenses.

-D


On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you picked 
it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. Still have 
room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done but would have 
to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out loud at this point.




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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

If you're going to do the math, you had better figure on a worst case scenario 
and what the current market value would be for similar houses in your area 
before you do anything.

Also consider the cost of the money you're borrowing to buy it, assuming you're 
not paying cash.

And would you have the time to do the work, and a realistic time frame to 
complete it. Then factor in about 10% of your total for unforeseen expenses.

-D

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you 
> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. 
> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done 
> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out 
> loud at this point. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Vinyl siding can be removed easier than removing and repalacing  a 
>> foundation. That should be enough to make one run unless it was grandma's 
>> house and one has to have it.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 01/06/2017 2:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Vinyl siding on old house -- RUN AWAY!!!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

[MG via Mercedes]

I was looking for some 15's and found some on ebay for a good 
price but someone else got them because I was in town when the 
sale ended. Oh well maybe next time since I wanted the original 
forged German ones.


Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
Unused?  I have 4 14" bundts with tires on them.  The tires are worthless. But, the rims are nice.  They are not new, but in nice shape.  I can take some pictures later if somebody really wants them. 

Don Snook 


-Original Message-
From: Jaime Kopchinski [mailto:jaime...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:03 PM

To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

It's true... got any unused spares?


On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:09 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Jaime wanted some!!!

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have some 14" bundts in very good shape that I would be glad to 
sell very cheap just to get rid of them!


Don Snook

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From: Karl Wittnebel [mailto:atypical...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:04 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
Cc: MG 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

Chinese replicas on ebay but supposedly decent ones rated by german 
transit authority. Search archives.


On May 31, 2017 4:02 AM, "MG via Mercedes" 

wrote:

Who was it that had some 15" bundt wheels for sale?

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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Then on the other hand if I were crazy enough to dive in what are he chance of 
Fannie Mae taking my $12-$15k offer on a $30k listing. On another note the wife 
went over to talk to the neighbor who had lived there her whole life. 
Apparently back in the day it was owned by a dentist who ran a small dental 
office in one of the rooms. I come from a long line of dentists with my 
grandfather being Will Rogers dentist. I should have been a dentist.

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You will have to call the local house mover.  It should be less there than 
> most of the rest of the country.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> June 1, 2017 at 3:14 PM
>> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you 
>> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. 
>> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done 
>> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out 
>> loud at this point.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

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True.

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You will have to call the local house mover.  It should be less there than 
> most of the rest of the country.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> June 1, 2017 at 3:14 PM
>> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you 
>> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. 
>> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done 
>> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out 
>> loud at this point.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You will have to call the local house mover.  It should be less there 
than most of the rest of the country.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
June 1, 2017 at 3:14 PM
So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming 
you picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 
45k in. Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to 
have been done but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's 
all just thinking out loud at this point.


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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you picked 
it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in. Still have 
room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done but would have 
to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out loud at this point. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Vinyl siding can be removed easier than removing and repalacing  a 
> foundation. That should be enough to make one run unless it was grandma's 
> house and one has to have it.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 2:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Vinyl siding on old house -- RUN AWAY!!!
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Just got giggles any idea how much that cost him?

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a friend that actually just finished doing exactly that.  His house is 
> 100+ years old and they had a basement dug and new foundation poured and put 
> the house back.  He said it was a longish project, but not as expensive as 
> they had anticipated. 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:58 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics
> 
> Get an estimate from a house mover to jack it up, tear out the old basement, 
> pour new 9' (or 10') walls; then put in a new floor.  That would give you a 
> good usable basement that can be finished.  You could even build a bomb 
> shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.
> 
> If you think you might live there, i'd do this for sure!
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  June 1, 
>> 2017 at 1:46 PM I went back over to that house today and took a few 
>> photos for those that are curious. There are a couple of photos I did 
>> not take. In the downstairs bathroom they have built a closet around 
>> the hot water tank. There are old termite trails/slight damage in the 
>> wall behind that. Also in the door frame at the top there is more 
>> severe termite damage on that same wall. There are centricon bait 
>> stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but does 
>> not appear to now.
>> Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under the house or 
>> foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by one 
>> of those foundation repair places.
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

It is just hiding most of  the termite damage!

RB

On 01/06/2017 2:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
True enougn but you have no idea what is under the siding, and if it 
has not been done correctly can be more damaging on old siding (and 
encourage more damage) than will be visible.


-_FT


On 6/1/17 3:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Vinyl siding can be removed easier than removing and repalacing  a 
foundation. That should be enough to make one run unless it was 
grandma's house and one has to have it.


RB

On 01/06/2017 2:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Vinyl siding on old house -- RUN AWAY!!!

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

True enougn but you have no idea what is under the siding, and if it has 
not been done correctly can be more damaging on old siding (and 
encourage more damage) than will be visible.


-_FT


On 6/1/17 3:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Vinyl siding can be removed easier than removing and repalacing  a 
foundation. That should be enough to make one run unless it was 
grandma's house and one has to have it.


RB

On 01/06/2017 2:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Vinyl siding on old house -- RUN AWAY!!!

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I have a friend that actually just finished doing exactly that.  His house is 
100+ years old and they had a basement dug and new foundation poured and put 
the house back.  He said it was a longish project, but not as expensive as they 
had anticipated. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

Get an estimate from a house mover to jack it up, tear out the old basement, 
pour new 9' (or 10') walls; then put in a new floor.  That would give you a 
good usable basement that can be finished.  You could even build a bomb 
shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.

If you think you might live there, i'd do this for sure!
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  June 1, 
> 2017 at 1:46 PM I went back over to that house today and took a few 
> photos for those that are curious. There are a couple of photos I did 
> not take. In the downstairs bathroom they have built a closet around 
> the hot water tank. There are old termite trails/slight damage in the 
> wall behind that. Also in the door frame at the top there is more 
> severe termite damage on that same wall. There are centricon bait 
> stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but does 
> not appear to now.
> Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under the house or 
> foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by one 
> of those foundation repair places.
>
> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/



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Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Unused?  I have 4 14" bundts with tires on them.  The tires are worthless. But, 
the rims are nice.  They are not new, but in nice shape.  I can take some 
pictures later if somebody really wants them. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Jaime Kopchinski [mailto:jaime...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

It's true... got any unused spares?


On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:09 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Jaime wanted some!!!
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have some 14" bundts in very good shape that I would be glad to 
> > sell very cheap just to get rid of them!
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Karl Wittnebel [mailto:atypical...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
> > Cc: MG 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims
> >
> > Chinese replicas on ebay but supposedly decent ones rated by german 
> > transit authority. Search archives.
> >
> > On May 31, 2017 4:02 AM, "MG via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Who was it that had some 15" bundt wheels for sale?
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Vinyl siding can be removed easier than removing and repalacing  a 
foundation. That should be enough to make one run unless it was 
grandma's house and one has to have it.


RB

On 01/06/2017 2:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Vinyl siding on old house -- RUN AWAY!!!

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Vinyl siding on old house -- RUN AWAY!!!

--FT


On 6/1/17 3:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Bat makes sense on the holes but I wonder why it's only on that side of the 
house? Not sure what is behind the siding but I assume it's painted wood would 
be my guess.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 1, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:


On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that are 
curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame at 
the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but 
does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under 
the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by 
one of those foundation repair places.

http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/


Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
What is under the vinyl siding?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Bat makes sense on the holes but I wonder why it's only on that side of the 
house? Not sure what is behind the siding but I assume it's painted wood would 
be my guess. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that 
>> are curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
>> bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
>> termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame 
>> at the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
>> centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past 
>> but does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put 
>> under the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best 
>> handled by one of those foundation repair places.
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
>> 
> Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
> Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
> What is under the vinyl siding?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I don't think I want to go that extreme. We do not have basements around 
here because they fill up with water as the water table is so high.

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 1:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Get an estimate from a house mover to jack it up, tear out the old basement, 
> pour new 9' (or 10') walls; then put in a new floor.  That would give you a 
> good usable basement that can be finished.  You could even build a bomb 
> shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.
> 
> If you think you might live there, i'd do this for sure!
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> June 1, 2017 at 1:46 PM
>> I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that 
>> are curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
>> bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
>> termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame 
>> at the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
>> centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past 
>> but does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put 
>> under the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best 
>> handled by one of those foundation repair places.
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

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On 01/06/2017 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that are 
curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame at 
the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but 
does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under 
the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by 
one of those foundation repair places.

http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/


Foundation issues look bad and expensive.
Holes in the siding are where they blew insulation  into the walls.
What is under the vinyl siding?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The paint is pretty good except for the roof. That happens to about all cars 
here, especially ones that  OK Don owns.

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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What happened 
> to the paint? 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> 
> Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .
> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You mean this car that is currently for sale?
>> 
>> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I 
>>> was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd 
>>> moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and 
 lots
>> of
 craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little 
 insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I 
 loved
>> it.
 When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that 
 lead
>> to
 a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
>> trying to
 cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
>> difficult
 things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring 
 that
>> had
 been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a 
 huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses 
 with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
 
 Don Snook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
 
 I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
>> house.
 It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house 
 built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little 
 wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by Kaleb.
 Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned 
 by its owners.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
 sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth 
 trees
>> that
 are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still 
 good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would 
 definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and 
 flip? Or turn it into a
>> rental?
 Or several apartments?
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
>> 
>> I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of 
>> curiosity on
 the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it 
 looked interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to 
 need a LOT
>> of
 work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house 
 with impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  Alot 
 or most of the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to 
 the ends of the
>> roof
 studs (not sure what you call it) as well as sofet (sp) is rotted 
 and
>> will
 require replacement.  Floors are uneven in some spots as you would
>> expect
 in an old house and that does not really concern me much.  All of 
 the windows in the house are the old original wood framed windows 
 and have storm windows installed on the outside.  These are these 
 big old windows you dont see in houses anymore.  Wife says they all 
 need to be replaced
>> but
 I told her these unlike new windows can be repaired, or so I think.
>> Just
 need to to have all the old paint scraped out, remove the old putty 
 that holds the glass in and replace.  No they are probably not as 
 

Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Get an estimate from a house mover to jack it up, tear out the old 
basement, pour new 9' (or 10') walls; then put in a new floor.  That 
would give you a good usable basement that can be finished.  You could 
even build a bomb shelter/tornado shelter/safe in a corner of the basement.


If you think you might live there, i'd do this for sure!

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
June 1, 2017 at 1:46 PM
I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those 
that are curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the 
downstairs bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water 
tank. There are old termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind 
that. Also in the door frame at the top there is more severe termite 
damage on that same wall. There are centricon bait stations outside so 
obviously they had termites in the past but does not appear to now. 
Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under the house or 
foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by one 
of those foundation repair places.


http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/


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[MBZ] Old house pics

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I went back over to that house today and took a few photos for those that are 
curious. There are a couple of photos I did not take. In the downstairs 
bathroom they have built a closet around the hot water tank. There are old 
termite trails/slight damage in the wall behind that. Also in the door frame at 
the top there is more severe termite damage on that same wall. There are 
centricon bait stations outside so obviously they had termites in the past but 
does not appear to now. Looks to me like it needs those cable ties put under 
the house or foundation replaced in sections? Most likely a job best handled by 
one of those foundation repair places.

http://okiebenz.com/pics/Oldhouse/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Dimitri's Dream come true

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

pretty lame.  That hand shoulda been used to rip a wheel off the 
piius.   3 min of hype BS and only a few seconds of denting the aluminum 
foil.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
June 1, 2017 at 1:13 PM
http://newatlas.com/megabots-mkiii-giant-fighting-robot/49826/

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[MBZ] OT Dimitri's Dream come true

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

http://newatlas.com/megabots-mkiii-giant-fighting-robot/49826/

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Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

It's true... got any unused spares?


On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:09 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Jaime wanted some!!!
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have some 14" bundts in very good shape that I would be glad to sell
> > very cheap just to get rid of them!
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Karl Wittnebel [mailto:atypical...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
> > Cc: MG 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims
> >
> > Chinese replicas on ebay but supposedly decent ones rated by german
> > transit authority. Search archives.
> >
> > On May 31, 2017 4:02 AM, "MG via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Who was it that had some 15" bundt wheels for sale?
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

He did lower the price after I challenged him.  Started out at $15k when he 
listed it yesterday, now it's $10k.

-D

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes you get what you pay for.
> Remember the old adage about cheap Mercedes.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 31/05/2017 6:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Beautiful car, stupid price.
>> 
>> https://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/6154876917.html
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I don't follow that list closely. Just skim the traffic every couple of weeks.

Thanks for mentioning it, though.  He did offer to put eyeballs on it, but the 
seller was really weird and didn't know anything about the car, and didn't seem 
willing to get more pictures or other information.

-D

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> 
> -D wrote:
>> Mercedes George is in a wheelchair.  Game over.
> 
> Oh, you didn't know that...
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Especially drug-addled minds

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Chad (the seller) is a real wordsmith, isn't he.  

If the wheels are worth $2000-$2500 take them off, sell them and junk the car. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:03 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Especially drug-addled minds

Everyone will take notice everywhere U go, Promise,

So, which is it? https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6152881784.html

--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”



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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE $1000

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

The picture of the engine bay makes me think a purchaser should plan on sinking 
TONS of money into that car.   

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:34 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE $1000

This has been for sale for a long time. I wonder how bad it is.

1972 Mercedes 280SE
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/6123820284.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Sometimes you get what you pay for.
Remember the old adage about cheap Mercedes.

RB

On 31/05/2017 6:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Beautiful car, stupid price.

https://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/6154876917.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You were correct. It did not work for very long.

RB

On 31/05/2017 6:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

You don't know until you try - I wouldn't have thought the first patch
would work . . .

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I think its beyond patching at this point.


On 5/31/2017 5:34 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


Patch it at the new crack?



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Re: [MBZ] somebody needs this....

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I think the one my friend had was a 305 now that folks bring up the 
differences.
He had no issues with the engine that I recall but he had to do some 
work on the transmission.


RB

On 31/05/2017 6:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I am not sure the 250 is right, but that is what the ad says.  Maybe 
it was japan or RTW only, if there was one.  I've only seen/heard of 
160 and 305.


My first motorcycle was a 305.  I had to rebuild the top end. After 
that it was ok, but it always vibrated a LOT.  I called it the 
nightmare.  It was not a good dream



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
May 31, 2017 at 6:16 PM
A 250 Dream?
Never saw one of those in person.
I don't think they were as common as the 160 and 305 were.
My dad bought a used 160 Dream in 1971, then the next winter he 
traded it in on a new/leftover 1971 Suzuki T500.

My first bike was a CB200T, a direct descendant of the CB160.
Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Blown radiator

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Just needs better duct tape.

RB

On 31/05/2017 6:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I think its beyond patching at this point.


On 5/31/2017 5:34 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Patch it at the new crack?



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Re: [MBZ] somebody needs this....

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 31/05/2017 6:06 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

For auction in June at tcmid.org

http://tcmid1.org/auction/vehicles/?view=mobile


A friend had one like that when I was in highschool back in about 1969.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The grocery store down the road gives 10% on Tues or Th, I forget 
which.  First time the woman says "I gave you the senior discount" I 
just about had a cow right there, but then I figured hell I'll be a 
senior if I can save a few $$


--FT


On 6/1/17 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Won't a lot of places give a senior discount at 55 years?

RB

On 31/05/2017 5:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 31 May 2017 14:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:


I'm 53, think I can get discount in 7 years. I don't think you look as
old as me. Maybe Curt or Craig could confirm that. Mitch.

Yes, I also think Kaleb doesn't look as old as Mitch.


Craig





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Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Come Begging

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-D wrote:
> If I pursued this car there is a trusted second  generation MB shop nearby...

Brooklyn Motoren Werke might have suggestions also, or may be they are
nearby enough to MSP?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

65 in the US, 60 in NZ and CA.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Won't a lot of places give a senior discount at 55 years?
>
> RB
>
> On 31/05/2017 5:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 May 2017 14:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm 53, think I can get discount in 7 years. I don't think you look as
>>> old as me. Maybe Curt or Craig could confirm that. Mitch.
>>>
>> Yes, I also think Kaleb doesn't look as old as Mitch.
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Rich, great news for Fred and Curt

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Nope.  CA cherries sold as a loss leader.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Those are chineecheeries raised in night soil
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 6/1/17 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> For whatever reasons, the national cherry crop (CA??) started already and
>> is plentiful and CHEAP.  Paid $.99/lb. at the Asian supermarket.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Up in the old Superfund site I hear they have some monster peaches
>> growing in the new orchard there
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/17 3:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> Might be imported from Woburn.
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>> 
>> >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well I don't know about the rest of SC but I got 'em at
>> the end of
>> my driveway.  I guess Sidi has connections in the peach
>> producers
>> sector of the economy.  Had my last one this morning,
>> gotta go get
>> more in a little while.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/17 2:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> With you or they is Fake news.  SC is supposed to be
>> peach-deprived.
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via
>> Mercedes
>> 
>> >
>> >  > > wrote:
>>
>> The farmstand at the end of the driveway got fresh SC
>> peaches in,
>> they are awesome and I am in heaven.  I did not
>> even look
>> at the
>> price.  Sidi's tomatoes should be ready any day now, I
>> will be in
>> second heaven.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 5/31/17 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> wrote:
>>
>> Southern states face summer without
>> peachesPublished:
>> Wednesday, May 31,
>> 2017
>>
>> A warm winter and a late spring cold snap have
>> devastated the
>> peach crop
>> across the southern United States.
>>
>> Georgia's peach yield may be 25 percent of
>> what it was
>> last
>> year, according
>> to the Department of Agriculture.
>>
>> In South Carolina, which trails only
>> California in peach
>> production, the
>> crop may be even worse compared with last year.
>>
>> "It's just really, really bad," said Juan Carlos
>> Melgar, an
>> assistant
>> professor of pomology at Clemson University.
>> "Historically bad."
>>
>> Workers, many of whom are from Mexico, are
>> being laid
>> off or
>> having their
>> contracts cut short.
>>
>> Much of the damage came from a three-day freeze in
>> March that
>> wiped out the
>> blossoms and early fruit.
>>
>> The New England peach crop, however, looks
>> great this year
>> (Kim Severson, *New
>> York Times*
>>   > 05/30/dining/peach-crop-georgia-south-carolina.html
>> > a-south-carolina.html>
>>> 2017/05/30/dining/peach-crop-georgia-south-carolina.html
>> > a-south-carolina.html>>
>>   > 05/30/dining/peach-crop-georgia-south-carolina.html
>> > a-south-carolina.html>
>>> 2017/05/30/dining/peach-crop-georgia-south-carolina.html
>> > a-south-carolina.html,
>> 

Re: [MBZ] Taco Bell

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Won't a lot of places give a senior discount at 55 years?

RB

On 31/05/2017 5:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 31 May 2017 14:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:


I'm 53, think I can get discount in 7 years. I don't think you look as
old as me. Maybe Curt or Craig could confirm that. Mitch.

Yes, I also think Kaleb doesn't look as old as Mitch.


Craig





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Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Jaime wanted some!!!

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have some 14" bundts in very good shape that I would be glad to sell
> very cheap just to get rid of them!
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Wittnebel [mailto:atypical...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
> Cc: MG 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims
>
> Chinese replicas on ebay but supposedly decent ones rated by german
> transit authority. Search archives.
>
> On May 31, 2017 4:02 AM, "MG via Mercedes"  wrote:
>
> > Who was it that had some 15" bundt wheels for sale?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Nice, But....

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-D wrote:
> Mercedes George is in a wheelchair.  Game over.

Oh, you didn't know that...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Mehdi still hasn't sold it

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sure, and I'll be sleeping in C's horse barn

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> no lowball offers
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6131963975.html
> Max needs to get on this
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Rich, great news for Fred and Curt

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Those are chineecheeries raised in night soil

--FT


On 6/1/17 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
For whatever reasons, the national cherry crop (CA??) started already 
and is plentiful and CHEAP.  Paid $.99/lb. at the Asian supermarket.


On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


Up in the old Superfund site I hear they have some monster peaches
growing in the new orchard there

--FT


On 5/31/17 3:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Might be imported from Woburn.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

>>
wrote:

Well I don't know about the rest of SC but I got 'em at
the end of
my driveway.  I guess Sidi has connections in the peach
producers
sector of the economy.  Had my last one this morning,
gotta go get
more in a little while.

--FT


On 5/31/17 2:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

With you or they is Fake news.  SC is supposed to be
peach-deprived.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via
Mercedes

>
 
   
>
 
 
   

>

Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Are you sure that's my old one?   Hmmm.  Well Kaleb, how much?  What happened 
to the paint? 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:57 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

Yup, that's the one. Snook needs to buy it back . . .

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You mean this car that is currently for sale?
>
> http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> > 
> wrote:
> >
> > I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I 
> > was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd 
> > moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you.
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and 
> >> lots
> of
> >> craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very little 
> >> insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I 
> >> loved
> it.
> >> When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that 
> >> lead
> to
> >> a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades
> trying to
> >> cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The
> difficult
> >> things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring 
> >> that
> had
> >> been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't a 
> >> huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses 
> >> with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
> >>
> >> Don Snook
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>
> >> I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this
> house.
> >> It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house 
> >> built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little 
> >> wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by Kaleb.
> >> Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned 
> >> by its owners.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
>  On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>  Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
> >> sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth 
> >> trees
> that
> >> are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still 
> >> good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would 
> >> definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and 
> >> flip? Or turn it into a
> rental?
> >> Or several apartments?
> 
>  Don Snook
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>  Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> 
>  I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of 
>  curiosity on
> >> the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it 
> >> looked interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to 
> >> need a LOT
> of
> >> work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house 
> >> with impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  Alot 
> >> or most of the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to 
> >> the ends of the
> roof
> >> studs (not sure what you call it) as well as sofet (sp) is rotted 
> >> and
> will
> >> require replacement.  Floors are uneven in some spots as you would
> expect
> >> in an old house and that does not really concern me much.  All of 
> >> the windows in the house are the old original wood framed windows 
> >> and have storm windows installed on the outside.  These are these 
> >> big old windows you dont see in houses anymore.  Wife says they all 
> >> need to be replaced
> but
> >> I told her these unlike new windows can be repaired, or so I think.
> Just
> >> need to to have all the old paint scraped out, remove the old putty 
> >> that holds the glass in and replace.  No they are probably not as 
> >> efficient
> as
> >> new windows.  On one side of the house they have 2 or 3 huge 
> >> concrete pillars/supports of some sort which butt up against the 
> >> foundation,
> almost
> >> sort of like buttresses on a cathedral.  The only thing I can 
> >> figure is
> the
> >> foundation started pushing out like it 

Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I don't think that is my old car.  Mine had excellent paint and more miles.  
IIRC.  I  have said this before, that of all the cars that I have had, that is 
one of the very few I wish I still had.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

You mean this car that is currently for sale?

http://okiebenz.com/sale/1990%20300D/

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2017, at 12:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I 
> was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd 
> moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you.
> 
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and 
>> lots of craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very 
>> little insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I 
>> loved it.
>> When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that 
>> lead to a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades 
>> trying to
>> cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The difficult
>> things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring 
>> that had been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It 
>> wasn't a huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built 
>> houses with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
>> 
>> I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this house.
>> It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house 
>> built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little 
>> wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by Kaleb.
>> Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned by 
>> its owners.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
 Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
>> sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth 
>> trees that are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably 
>> still good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would 
>> definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and flip? Or 
>> turn it into a rental?
>> Or several apartments?
 
 Don Snook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
 Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
 
 I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of curiosity 
 on
>> the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it looked 
>> interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to need a 
>> LOT of work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old 
>> house with impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  
>> Alot or most of the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to 
>> the ends of the roof studs (not sure what you call it) as well as 
>> sofet (sp) is rotted and will require replacement.  Floors are uneven 
>> in some spots as you would expect in an old house and that does not 
>> really concern me much.  All of the windows in the house are the old 
>> original wood framed windows and have storm windows installed on the 
>> outside.  These are these big old windows you dont see in houses 
>> anymore.  Wife says they all need to be replaced but I told her these 
>> unlike new windows can be repaired, or so I think.  Just need to to 
>> have all the old paint scraped out, remove the old putty that holds 
>> the glass in and replace.  No they are probably not as efficient as 
>> new windows.  On one side of the house they have 2 or 3 huge concrete 
>> pillars/supports of some sort which butt up against the foundation, 
>> almost sort of like buttresses on a cathedral.  The only thing I can 
>> figure is the foundation started pushing out like it does on old 
>> houses and these were installed to hold it in.  I have seen other old 
>> houses where they have drilled holes in the header plate or 
>> foundation with cables stretched across from one side of the house to 
>> the other attached to metal plates on the outside 

Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I have some 14" bundts in very good shape that I would be glad to sell very 
cheap just to get rid of them! 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Karl Wittnebel [mailto:atypical...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:04 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz com 
Cc: MG 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bundt rims

Chinese replicas on ebay but supposedly decent ones rated by german transit 
authority. Search archives.

On May 31, 2017 4:02 AM, "MG via Mercedes"  wrote:

> Who was it that had some 15" bundt wheels for sale?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

It was a great house! But, with a growing family, it was too small.  Sometimes 
I wish I still had it.  But, when family came to visit or the new baby arrived 
it was too crowded.   My current house isn't quite the polar opposite (meaning 
boring new cheap construction), but it is close.  My current house was built in 
1979 which is not new, but it is so much newer than the old one.   In the 1929 
house, I had to deal with 80 years of patchwork updates.  But, in this house, I 
still have to deal with odd wiring sometimes.  The previous owner was an 
electrician so there are some odd wiring issues.  He was a fan of doing his own 
projects.  That means having electricity is the shed AND the gazebo in the back 
yard.   I had to replace a dimmer switch in my basement last week and it was 
not a simple job because he had wired a bunch of things into one switch.  

Don Snook 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects

I remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I was there 
to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd moved, though I can 
understand that it was built for little people, not you.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and 
> lots of craftsmanship.  Of course, being an old house, it had very 
> little insulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I loved 
> it.
>  When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that 
> lead to a breakfast nook.  The contractor wore out several sawzall blades 
> trying to
> cut through the studs.  The wood was super dense and hard.   The difficult
> things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring that 
> had been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms.  It wasn't 
> a huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses 
> with small rooms.  I did love all the character of an old house.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
>
> I love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this house.
> It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house built 
> today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little wind 
> blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by Kaleb.
> Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned by 
> its owners.
> >
> > RB
> >
> >> On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit.One thing I'm
> sure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD.  Slow growth trees 
> that are as hard as iron.  The bones of the house are probably still 
> good.  A foundation issue would scare me a little.  It would 
> definitely be a long term project.  Would you try to restore and flip? Or 
> turn it into a rental?
> Or several apartments?
> >>
> >> Don Snook
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
> >>
> >> I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of curiosity 
> >> on
> the wifes MLS login.  Anyway, I saw this house in town and it looked 
> interesting.  I had her show it to me today. It is going to need a LOT 
> of work but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house 
> with impressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore.  Alot or 
> most of the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to the ends 
> of the roof studs (not sure what you call it) as well as sofet (sp) is 
> rotted and will require replacement.  Floors are uneven in some spots 
> as you would expect in an old house and that does not really concern 
> me much.  All of the windows in the house are the old original wood 
> framed windows and have storm windows installed on the outside.  These 
> are these big old windows you dont see in houses anymore.  Wife says 
> they all need to be replaced but I told her these unlike new windows 
> can be repaired, or so I think.  Just need to to have all the old 
> paint scraped out, remove the old putty that holds the glass in and 
> replace.  No they are probably not as efficient as new windows.  On 
> one side of the house they have 2 or 3 huge concrete pillars/supports 
> of some sort which butt up against the foundation, almost sort of like 
> 

Re: [MBZ] Drugs rampant in seaside community

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Tell them you're a buyer if they lop off a zero, which was clearly a typo.

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> 1988?  The three extra cylinders must have condensed out of the sea air.
>
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Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Once you pay in full they will let you know where the vehicle is located.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hes lost is you're gane!
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 6/1/17 7:06 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I don't know, my radar is up on this one. I did some checking on the
>> contact information and it's totally out of whack with the stated
>> logistics. That is, the seller was in WI and now rural UT. Their phone and
>> other records tie them to southwestern FL.
>>
>> They came down $5000 on my claim of stated value without hesitation.
>> That makes me suspect. Someone who has "spoken to dealers" about a car's
>> price isn't going to back off their claims so easily.
>>
>> Something doesn't jive on this. I may call today and see what I can find
>> out.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On May 31, 2017, at 9:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a Mercedes, miles don't count. An old low miles car is trouble -
>>> more
>>> than higher miles, and I don't consider one to be "high mileage" till
>>> it's
>>> over 350,000.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not really.  Hagerty and PPI put it at about $10k.  My biggest concern
 would be the miles it’s got (160k) and the location.

 I could see maybe $8500.

 -D


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>
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wow, that is THE car. Too bad it's about 10k too high.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 31, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Beautiful car, stupid price.
>>
>> https://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/6154876917.html
>>
>> -D
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>>> of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>>
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>>
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>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Rich, great news for Fred and Curt

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

For whatever reasons, the national cherry crop (CA??) started already
and is plentiful and CHEAP.  Paid $.99/lb. at the Asian supermarket.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Up in the old Superfund site I hear they have some monster peaches growing
> in the new orchard there
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 5/31/17 3:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Might be imported from Woburn.
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Well I don't know about the rest of SC but I got 'em at the end of
>> my driveway.  I guess Sidi has connections in the peach producers
>> sector of the economy.  Had my last one this morning, gotta go get
>> more in a little while.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/17 2:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> With you or they is Fake news.  SC is supposed to be
>> peach-deprived.
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>> 
>> >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The farmstand at the end of the driveway got fresh SC
>> peaches in,
>> they are awesome and I am in heaven.  I did not even look
>> at the
>> price.  Sidi's tomatoes should be ready any day now, I
>> will be in
>> second heaven.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 5/31/17 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> Southern states face summer without peachesPublished:
>> Wednesday, May 31,
>> 2017
>>
>> A warm winter and a late spring cold snap have
>> devastated the
>> peach crop
>> across the southern United States.
>>
>> Georgia's peach yield may be 25 percent of what it was
>> last
>> year, according
>> to the Department of Agriculture.
>>
>> In South Carolina, which trails only California in peach
>> production, the
>> crop may be even worse compared with last year.
>>
>> "It's just really, really bad," said Juan Carlos
>> Melgar, an
>> assistant
>> professor of pomology at Clemson University.
>> "Historically bad."
>>
>> Workers, many of whom are from Mexico, are being laid
>> off or
>> having their
>> contracts cut short.
>>
>> Much of the damage came from a three-day freeze in
>> March that
>> wiped out the
>> blossoms and early fruit.
>>
>> The New England peach crop, however, looks great this year
>> (Kim Severson, *New
>> York Times*
>>> 2017/05/30/dining/peach-crop-georgia-south-carolina.html
>> > a-south-carolina.html>
>>> 2017/05/30/dining/peach-crop-georgia-south-carolina.html
>> > a-south-carolina.html>>>,
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>> small, large or petty,
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>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently
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[MBZ] Your father's Dodge - tempting

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1949-dodge-wayfarer-2/
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Re: [MBZ] Drugs rampant in seaside community

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

1988?  The three extra cylinders must have condensed out of the sea air.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Especially drug-addled minds

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Translation:
After my last Overdose I'm unable to stand or walk from the brain damage.
The 20 inch rims won't fit on my wheelchair, and the working girls got
picked up by another pimp..
Must sell to make bail money.

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> Everyone will take notice everywhere U go, Promise,
>
> So, which is it? https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6152881784.html
>
> --
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> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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[MBZ] Especially drug-addled minds

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Everyone will take notice everywhere U go, Promise,

So, which is it? https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6152881784.html

--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[MBZ] Mehdi still hasn't sold it

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

no lowball offers

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6131963975.html
Max needs to get on this

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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[MBZ] This doesn't look half bad

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

but with no AC it ain't worth that

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6156141100.html

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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] After a Long Night of Hookers and Blow....

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Plan A.
Get a PPI and if it's as clean as it looks, offer him $11k or so. 

Plan B.
You WILL find the car you're looking for, but it will come at a price. Flip 
another Florida car or ‎two on BaT to improve your war chest. By September 
you'll have $20k and be able to get what you want. 

That 300CD in Tampa I posted last week could've easily sold for $5,500-$7,500. 

Here's a few to get you thinking. 
‎https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/6134973280.html

This one looks familiar...
‎https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6118863420.html

‎https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6150928654.html

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/6116746426.html

Everyone wants a bargain. What difference does it make if a car is $5,000 or 
$15,000, if the required effort to generate the extra $10,000 is minimal? You 
generated an extra $4,500 in a few weeks, with maybe 20 hours of work ($225 an 
hour ain't bad. That's attorney or physician money). 
It is repeatable. 
It becomes a game, numbers on a page...

Rick
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[MBZ] Drugs rampant in seaside community

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Dad died, I need to get rid of this POS that has been sitting in the 
damn garage for 10 years


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6157002603.html


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Re: [MBZ] After a Long Night of Hookers and Blow....

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

paint doesn't look right, like it was wrecked in the front?

--FT


On 6/1/17 10:32 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Beautiful car, but

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/6156909880.html

-D
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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Strong, or the Altitude is Affecting their Brain...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hes lost is you're gane!

--FT


On 6/1/17 7:06 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know, my radar is up on this one. I did some checking on the contact 
information and it's totally out of whack with the stated logistics. That is, 
the seller was in WI and now rural UT. Their phone and other records tie them 
to southwestern FL.

They came down $5000 on my claim of stated value without hesitation.  That makes me 
suspect. Someone who has "spoken to dealers" about a car's price isn't going to 
back off their claims so easily.

Something doesn't jive on this. I may call today and see what I can find out.

-D


On May 31, 2017, at 9:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

It's a Mercedes, miles don't count. An old low miles car is trouble - more
than higher miles, and I don't consider one to be "high mileage" till it's
over 350,000.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Not really.  Hagerty and PPI put it at about $10k.  My biggest concern
would be the miles it’s got (160k) and the location.

I could see maybe $8500.

-D



On May 31, 2017, at 8:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <

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Wow, that is THE car. Too bad it's about 10k too high.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 31, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Beautiful car, stupid price.

https://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/6154876917.html

-D

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Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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