Re: [MBZ] rode hard and put up wet

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am too lazy to mess with that and you already have an account in good 
standing.  Maybe you get Brownie points with them for buying cars.

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m not following you: are you wanting that car? If so, just setup an account 
> and bid.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:13 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb, 
>> 
>> What would this one cost me?  Your bid and I can pick up and pay you.  
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/24463608
>> 
>> Oh, yeah, that car looks nasty.  what the heck was going on with the 
>> trousers of the folks on those seats?
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.copart.com/lot/50685317
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] rode hard and put up wet

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m not following you: are you wanting that car? If so, just setup an account 
and bid.

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:13 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kaleb, 
> 
> What would this one cost me?  Your bid and I can pick up and pay you.  
> https://www.copart.com/lot/24463608
> 
> Oh, yeah, that car looks nasty.  what the heck was going on with the trousers 
> of the folks on those seats?
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> https://www.copart.com/lot/50685317
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Re: [MBZ] rode hard and put up wet

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Kaleb, 

What would this one cost me?  Your bid and I can pick up and pay you.  
https://www.copart.com/lot/24463608

Oh, yeah, that car looks nasty.  what the heck was going on with the trousers 
of the folks on those seats?

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.copart.com/lot/50685317


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Re: [MBZ] Does it look like the RF fender is good?

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Looks like a reflection to me.

Dibs on the speedo.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Looks dented to me. YMMV
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> On Feb 14, 2018 7:24 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Thinking about bidding on this to fix the car the wife wrecked. Does the
> > RF fender look undamaged?  I can't tell if its scraped or if its just
> > reflections in the paint.
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This auction was on approval. It was a donation car also so I guess they are 
greedy. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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>> On February 14, 2018 at 4:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> 
>> What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
>> purchase?
> 
> On Reserve = the same as any reserve price auction, except the buyer and 
> seller can exchange counter offers after the non-sale. 
> One time I was the winning bidder at $1500, seller countered $1800, I 
> countered $1500, then next thing I knew it was relisted for next week. The 
> next week somebody else (probably the same dealer who bid $1450 to my $1500 
> the week before) had the winning bid, reserve not met, at $1450 and it was 
> sold. No idea if it sold for $1450, $1800, or something in between. Made me 
> wish I'd kept bidding $1500 until the seller gave up and let me have it. 
> 
> On Approval = no matter how high the winning bid is, there's no sale unless 
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

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> On February 14, 2018 at 4:36 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
> purchase?

On Reserve = the same as any reserve price auction, except the buyer and seller 
can exchange counter offers after the non-sale. 
One time I was the winning bidder at $1500, seller countered $1800, I countered 
$1500, then next thing I knew it was relisted for next week. The next week 
somebody else (probably the same dealer who bid $1450 to my $1500 the week 
before) had the winning bid, reserve not met, at $1450 and it was sold. No idea 
if it sold for $1450, $1800, or something in between. Made me wish I'd kept 
bidding $1500 until the seller gave up and let me have it. 

On Approval = no matter how high the winning bid is, there's no sale unless the 
seller accepts the winning bid, or the buyer and seller come to some agreement 
after the seller rejects the winning bid.

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Re: [MBZ] More beef cake 220 pics

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Perhaps, but I'm looking for a more serious flaw.  Hint: Look at the trim.
 

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:54 PM, OK Don  wrote:
 

 The battery - it's too short for the tray.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Sure is!  Now can someone find the one non-original detail?


    On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:27 PM, Dwight Giles 
 wrote:


 It is mint. 

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On Feb 14, 2018 7:25 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes"  wrote:

Notice how clean and rust free the wheel wells are!
















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Re: [MBZ] More beef cake 220 pics

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The battery - it's too short for the tray.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sure is!  Now can someone find the one non-original detail?
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:27 PM, Dwight Giles <
> dwight.gi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  It is mint.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> On Feb 14, 2018 7:25 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
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> Notice how clean and rust free the wheel wells are!
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

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> On February 14, 2018 at 8:45 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On February 14, 2018 at 5:31 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Yep
> > 
> 
> Pre-Regina'd. 
> Think she wants a turbo Camaro?
> https://www.iaai.com/vehicle?itemid=27196375=1

Oops, that one's got a scrap (destruction only) title on it.

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Re: [MBZ] More copart

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> On February 14, 2018 at 5:31 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yep
> 

Pre-Regina'd. 
Think she wants a turbo Camaro?
https://www.iaai.com/vehicle?itemid=27196375=1

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[MBZ] If it refuses to turn on the seat heaters...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

...turn around and go home, there isn't enough voltage to run them (or the car 
for very much longer).

The ML350 went about 20 miles, then put the traction control light on, then it 
put on  some more warning lights including the brake failure light, then it 
slowed to 40 mph, then a half mile later slowed to 20mph, and when I shifted 
into park it shut the engine off. I had to jump it to get it to shift back out 
of park to go on the tow truck. 

And no, I never saw a charging system warning light or message. I don't even 
know if it shows warning messages on the odometer display like the S210 does. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] rode hard and put up wet

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this 400E, maybe Poos can do something with it

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I think the wiring harness may need replacing

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 13, 2018 11:27 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
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> Dibs on the steering wheel.  ;-)
>
> Actually, the fact they actually TRIED to photograph the odometer makes the
> entire listing.  ;-)
>
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> > That will buff right out 20 grit?
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> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> > > Looks like,124 wiring harness crispy critter
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
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> > >
> > > On Feb 13, 2018 8:45 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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Re: [MBZ] More beef cake 220 pics

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Sure is!  Now can someone find the one non-original detail?
 

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:27 PM, Dwight Giles 
 wrote:
 

 It is mint. 

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Feb 14, 2018 7:25 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes"  wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] More beef cake 220 pics

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It is mint.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] Does it look like the RF fender is good?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Looks dented to me. YMMV
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 14, 2018 7:24 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thinking about bidding on this to fix the car the wife wrecked. Does the
> RF fender look undamaged?  I can't tell if its scraped or if its just
> reflections in the paint.
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[MBZ] Does it look like the RF fender is good?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Thinking about bidding on this to fix the car the wife wrecked. Does the 
RF fender look undamaged?  I can't tell if its scraped or if its just 
reflections in the paint.


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Re: [MBZ] More copart

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Yes good point.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 14, 2018 7:16 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That may be the wrong psychology.  Maybe the counter should be $200, as
> the seller is wasting  Kaleb's time.
>
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> February 14, 2018 at 3:44 PM
>> Offer $250
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

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That may be the wrong psychology.  Maybe the counter should be $200, as 
the seller is wasting  Kaleb's time.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
February 14, 2018 at 3:44 PM
Offer $250

RB




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Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750

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Yes, I remember when those were going for crazy money.

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> Yes, time to cash in. Ten years ago I sold a fair 201 diesel for $5200 when 
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Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, time to cash in. Ten years ago I sold a fair 201 diesel for $5200 when 
they were really popular (high fuel prices).
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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

;-)


clay 

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting, given that one can seldom see the whole of the car, but can 
> usually see a whole lot of the human component.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 14/02/2018 4:57 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> The car porn is the object of lust.  The human component is just frosting
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 14/02/2018 10:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 This is beefcake - post it to banned.
 
>>> You might have noticed, that on banned, there is a preference for 
>>> cheesecake.


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Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I suspect that the survivors are in much better condition than the ones that 
rusted out, got Cash/klunked, or abused over the past 40 years.  They are also 
very affordable to own and operate, as well as having a following in the old 
countries, so parts are available.  That it shares some parts with the R107 
does not hurt.  The size is a boon.  The W116 is really large, while the /8 can 
be handled better than that or the R107.

I enjoyed working on my /8, and it does have the classic Sacco and Braq lines.  
Why do you still hold on to your car Randy?



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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, what do you all think about this? There have been several 114/115 cars 
> sold for very good prices in recent times.
> None have been perfect show cars.
> 
> 1. Are they just getting old enough to have become somewhat rare?
> 
> 2. Do they appeal to older wealthy folks who can afford another toy?
> 
> 3. Should I shine mine up and get out while the going is good, so to speak?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Haha.  I think the car is a bit more handsome than its owner!
 

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 

 He's aiming for a modeling career.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> See his earlier post about Greece.
>
> RB
>
> On 14/02/2018 3:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> What is the story on that Dimitri? Looks nice.
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well I put in a prebid at $125 and was outbid this morning before the auction 
started. I upped by bid to $225 and was the winner before the auction started. 
I ended up high bidder so it does not seem like anybody bid on it at the live 
auction. It’s somewhat interesting to me as it is supposed low miles and might 
clean up nice, but not sure what I could flip it for. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone else bid?
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 14/02/2018 4:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I did, then they came back at $475. Too much for a 300e that looks like it’s 
>> been sitting under a tree for 10 years. In fact I think the last carfax 
>> activity was 10 years ago. No mention if it runs and drives. It would be 
>> $748 after auction fees.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Offer $250
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 14/02/2018 3:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 My $225 bid did not meet reserve. I just received a counter offer from the 
 seller for $500. I will pass. $225 was already more than I wanted to pay 
 factoring in copart fees.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
> purchase?
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Kaleb sez:
>> 
>>> ‎‎I won this pending approval
>> Okie Acres will be full of rusting hulks in no time, now that you've
>> discovered Copart.
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:00:09 -0800 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The rotor is not supposed to warp, so there is some other cause of the
> issue.

I replaced the disks and pads on our '90 E300D and the pedal pulsing
stopped.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Bought new by my parents in 1971 at Helms Brothers dealership in NY. They 
picked it up in Germany via European delivery and drove it to Greece where they 
were living. The car is a US spec model- probably the only 220/8 in Greece with 
US specs. Ironically, it’s never been in the US but has been driven throughout 
Europe. We keep it in Greece for when we visit. The car was driven on a daily 
basis by my father from 1971-1986. In 1986 it received a complete repaint with 
the exception of the roof. The car is and always has been completely rust free 
and has 128,000 original miles. It is in pristine condition- not a show car but 
a very high quality driver. I was last in Greece in 2008 for 3 months. I worked 
on the cosmetics of that car almost every day- mostly detailing. It has 
remained under cover in a dry garage ever since. 

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> What is the story on that Dimitri? Looks nice.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018 11:46 AM, "Dimitri via Mercedes"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> '84TD via Mercedes wrote:

> My car recently starting a pulsing in the brake pedal.  Had a
> garage look at it and they recommended a rotor turning to remove
> high spots.  This worked fine for awhile, but the pulsing is now
> back again.

Can't say for sure, but that is the symptom of brakes that
were not properly "bedded".


http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths

Solution is to turn the rotors or replace them.  While the S123
rotors can be turn, replacement isn't usually very expensive and
is what Mercedes specifies.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Common knowledge of Benz rotors is that they do not turn.  Get fresh rotors and 
have the brake system checked out.  The rotor is not supposed to warp, so there 
is some other cause of the issue.

Other list folks are far more versed on this.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Feb 14, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My car recently starting a pulsing in the brake pedal.  Had a garage look at 
> it and they recommended a rotor turning to remove high spots.  This worked 
> fine for awhile, but the pulsing is now back again.  Should I have the rotors 
> replaced or could it be  something else.
> Thanks
> Ralph '87 300 SDL  '84 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Interesting, given that one can seldom see the whole of the car, but can 
usually see a whole lot of the human component.


RB


On 14/02/2018 4:57 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

The car porn is the object of lust.  The human component is just frosting


clay

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

On 14/02/2018 10:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

This is beefcake - post it to banned.


You might have noticed, that on banned, there is a preference for cheesecake.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Anyone else bid?

RB

On 14/02/2018 4:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I did, then they came back at $475. Too much for a 300e that looks like it’s 
been sitting under a tree for 10 years. In fact I think the last carfax 
activity was 10 years ago. No mention if it runs and drives. It would be $748 
after auction fees.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

Offer $250

RB


On 14/02/2018 3:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
My $225 bid did not meet reserve. I just received a counter offer from the 
seller for $500. I will pass. $225 was already more than I wanted to pay 
factoring in copart fees.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
purchase?

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Kaleb sez:


‎‎I won this pending approval

Okie Acres will be full of rusting hulks in no time, now that you've
discovered Copart.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The car porn is the object of lust.  The human component is just frosting


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 14/02/2018 10:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> This is beefcake - post it to banned.
>> 
> 
> You might have noticed, that on banned, there is a preference for cheesecake.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I did, then they came back at $475. Too much for a 300e that looks like it’s 
been sitting under a tree for 10 years. In fact I think the last carfax 
activity was 10 years ago. No mention if it runs and drives. It would be $748 
after auction fees.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Offer $250
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 14/02/2018 3:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> My $225 bid did not meet reserve. I just received a counter offer from the 
>> seller for $500. I will pass. $225 was already more than I wanted to pay 
>> factoring in copart fees.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
>>> purchase?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Kaleb sez:
 
> ‎‎I won this pending approval
 Okie Acres will be full of rusting hulks in no time, now that you've
 discovered Copart.
 
 Rick
 
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Gonna fill up Okie Acres in a hurry now that you’ve found Coparts?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I won this pending approval 
>> 
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/51325767/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

cOkieparts

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Gonna fill up Okie Acres in a hurry now that you’ve found Coparts?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I won this pending approval 
>> 
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/51325767/
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[MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, what do you all think about this? There have been several 114/115 
cars sold for very good prices in recent times.

None have been perfect show cars.

1. Are they just getting old enough to have become somewhat rare?

2. Do they appeal to older wealthy folks who can afford another toy?

3. Should I shine mine up and get out while the going is good, so to speak?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gonna fill up Okie Acres in a hurry now that you’ve found Coparts?

-D

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> https://www.copart.com/lot/51325767/
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[MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-250/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-02-14
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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's aiming for a modeling career.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> See his earlier post about Greece.
>
> RB
>
> On 14/02/2018 3:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> What is the story on that Dimitri? Looks nice.
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

See his earlier post about Greece.

RB

On 14/02/2018 3:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

What is the story on that Dimitri? Looks nice.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

What is the story on that Dimitri? Looks nice.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 14, 2018 11:46 AM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Offer $250

RB

On 14/02/2018 3:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

My $225 bid did not meet reserve. I just received a counter offer from the 
seller for $500. I will pass. $225 was already more than I wanted to pay 
factoring in copart fees.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
purchase?

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Kaleb sez:


‎‎I won this pending approval

Okie Acres will be full of rusting hulks in no time, now that you've
discovered Copart.

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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

My $225 bid did not meet reserve. I just received a counter offer from the 
seller for $500. I will pass. $225 was already more than I wanted to pay 
factoring in copart fees. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
> purchase?
> 
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> 
>> Kaleb sez:
>> 
>>> ‎‎I won this pending approval
>> 
>> Okie Acres will be full of rusting hulks in no time, now that you've
>> discovered Copart.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] potato cam generic Benz

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At least it's a pretty color...

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz/6494686477.html
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What did you pay?  Why do you need approval - to use bitcoins for the
purchase?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Kaleb sez:
>
> >‎‎I won this pending approval
>
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> discovered Copart.
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[MBZ] potato cam generic Benz

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz/6494686477.html

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[MBZ] hard to tell what this is about

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1994-mercedes-c280-mechanics/6495765230.html

Did a rear suspension mount break loose?  $500?  Max you ought to go 
take a look at this.


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[MBZ] Kleb needs this chopped bus

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https://jalopnik.com/all-the-craigslist-shitboxes-readers-have-been-tempting-1822972691

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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nice,  in many ways.


Dimitri via Mercedes 
February 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM




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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You forgot to mention in the teeth/face of people riding motorcycles.  
They sting like hail. when you smack them at 70-80.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 14, 2018 at 10:44 AM
He offered it and I’ll take it. Whether or not I’ll put it on the car 
is yet to be determined. Understand that there are parts of the year 
down here where we’re inundated with “love bugs” that literally cover 
the front of your car to the point where their remains can damage the 
paint if left in place for a while. I would probably use it at that 
time as a protective measure, but otherwise leave it off.


"This species' reputation as a public nuisance is due not to any bite 
or sting (it is incapable of either), but to its slightly acidic body 
chemistry. Because airborne lovebugs can exist in enormous numbers 
near highways, they die in large numbers on automobile windshields, 
hoods, and radiator grills when the vehicles travel at high speeds. If 
left for more than an hour or two, the remains become extremely 
difficult to remove. Their body chemistry has a nearly neutral 6.5 pH 
but may become acidic at 4.25 pH if left on the car for a day. In the 
past, the acidity of the dead adult body, especially the female's egg 
masses, often resulted in pits and etches in automotive paint and 
chrome if not quickly removed. However, advances in automotive paints 
and protective coatings have reduced this threat significantly. Now 
the greatest concern is excessive clogging of vehicle radiator air 
passages by the bodies of the adults, with a reduction of the cooling 
effect on engines, and the obstruction of windshields when the remains 
of the adults and egg masses are smeared on the glass.


Lovebug adults are attracted to light-colored surfaces, especially if 
they are freshly painted, but adults congregate almost anywhere, 
apparently reacting to the effects of sunlight on automobile fumes, 
asphalt, and other products affected by environmental factors still 
not completely understood."


Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovebug

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Re: [MBZ] More copart

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Kaleb sez:

>‎‎I won this pending approval

Okie Acres will be full of rusting hulks in no time, now that you've discovered 
Copart.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

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I actually found the wear gauge on an MB rotor just a year or so ago. Never 
knew they had them.  If you haven’t seen one it’s just a little crescent shaped 
cutout on the edge of the rotor wear surface.

-D

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You don’t turn MB rotors. As you discovered it’s a waste of money. You just 
> need to replace the rotors.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My car recently starting a pulsing in the brake pedals.  Had a garage look 
>> at it and they recommended a rotor turning to remove high spots.  This 
>> worked fine for awhile, but the pulsing is now back again.  Should I have 
>> the rotors replaced or could it be  something else.
>> Thanks
>> Ralph '87 300 SDL  '84 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] More copart

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Looks like cheap wheels for 

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> I won this pending approval
>
> https://www.copart.com/lot/51325767/
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[MBZ] More copart

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I won this pending approval 

https://www.copart.com/lot/51325767/

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Jabba

--FT


On 2/14/18 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

These are but a few of the long list of awesome online parts shops with
competitive pricing and excellent customer service.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:22:28 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes"
 wrote:


Should I have the rotors replaced or could it be something else.
Thanks Ralph

You can get replacement disks at Rock Auto http://www.rockauto.com --
that's where I got them for our '90 E300D. They are cheaper than other
places and have good service.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,1986,
300sdl,3.0l+l6+diesel+turbocharged,1194072,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

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These are but a few of the long list of awesome online parts shops with
competitive pricing and excellent customer service.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:22:28 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > Should I have the rotors replaced or could it be something else.
> > Thanks Ralph
>
> You can get replacement disks at Rock Auto http://www.rockauto.com --
> that's where I got them for our '90 E300D. They are cheaper than other
> places and have good service.
>
> http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,1986,
> 300sdl,3.0l+l6+diesel+turbocharged,1194072,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896
>
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:22:28 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Should I have the rotors replaced or could it be something else.
> Thanks Ralph

You can get replacement disks at Rock Auto http://www.rockauto.com --
that's where I got them for our '90 E300D. They are cheaper than other
places and have good service.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,1986,300sdl,3.0l+l6+diesel+turbocharged,1194072,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Or better yet importecautoparts.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Get a choice of brands + free shipping at www.autohausaz.com
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> You don’t turn MB rotors. As you discovered it’s a waste of money. You just 
>> need to replace the rotors.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > My car recently starting a pulsing in the brake pedals.  Had a garage look 
>> > at it and they recommended a rotor turning to remove high spots.  This 
>> > worked fine for awhile, but the pulsing is now back again.  Should I have 
>> > the rotors replaced or could it be  something else.
>> > Thanks
>> > Ralph '87 300 SDL  '84 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Get a choice of brands + free shipping at www.autohausaz.com

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You don’t turn MB rotors. As you discovered it’s a waste of money. You
> just need to replace the rotors.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My car recently starting a pulsing in the brake pedals.  Had a garage
> look at it and they recommended a rotor turning to remove high spots.  This
> worked fine for awhile, but the pulsing is now back again.  Should I have
> the rotors replaced or could it be  something else.
> > Thanks
> > Ralph '87 300 SDL  '84 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You don’t turn MB rotors. As you discovered it’s a waste of money. You just 
need to replace the rotors.

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My car recently starting a pulsing in the brake pedals.  Had a garage look at 
> it and they recommended a rotor turning to remove high spots.  This worked 
> fine for awhile, but the pulsing is now back again.  Should I have the rotors 
> replaced or could it be  something else.
> Thanks
> Ralph '87 300 SDL  '84 300 CD
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[MBZ] '87 300SDL brake pulsing

[Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes]

My car recently starting a pulsing in the brake pedal.  Had a garage look at it 
and they recommended a rotor turning to remove high spots.  This worked fine 
for awhile, but the pulsing is now back again.  Should I have the rotors 
replaced or could it be  something else.
Thanks
Ralph '87 300 SDL          '84 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Or one can easily make a nice set of hooks from a coat hanger:  Cut piece of 
coat hanger 6" to 8" long.  Bend 1/8" on one end 90° to main axis.  Make 
loop on other end for gripping with finger(s).  With hook aligned to slip 
into slot between cluster "case" and dashboard about 1" to 2" above outsider 
corners of cluster, push hook ¾" or so into slot; rotate hook 90° and pull 
it to engage outer case of cluster.  This always worked easily and nicely on 
my 123's and 126, but I had to free the cluster on my 124 the first time by 
driving putty knife into the slot around the case because of mfgr's glue 
overflow onto the rubber around the case/cluster.


W

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?



Craig,

Just got my official MB pulling hooks out of the tool chest.  Here’s what 
I can tell you:


Part number: 140 589 02 33 00
Length of wire: approximately 6” from handle to hook
Hook length: 3/16”
Wire diameter: ~ 2 mm

There is a black line approximately 2-1/2” up from the end with the hook. 
I suspect that’s a reference point for how far you’re supposed to stick 
them into the dash before rotating to engage the cluster.  I’ll check 
today as I’m planning on pulling the cluster on the 400E.


Here is a pair on the island of large women:

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mercedes-Instrument-Cluster-140589023300/dp/B00VU0D7KO


-D


On Feb 13, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:


On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:08:49 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:


I used heavy coat hanger wire bent into a “T” for years until I finally
popped for a set of the official MB pullers a year ago.  They are
stout!!


For the official MB pullers:

- What is the diameter of the wire?

- How long is the bent portion?

- What is the part number?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s probably the biggest hindrance to getting them out - the rubber seal 
ages and pretty much anchors the thing in there.  The hooks won’t do it in this 
case, you need brute force.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2018, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On one older instrument cluster, I had to run a thin steel putty knife
> around to break the "seal" between the rubber and the dash - then I could
> push it out from the back.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Let’s just say this:  If you want to pull the cluster, try pushing it out
>> from the back first.  If that doesn’t work, buy a set of hooks.
>> 
>> -D


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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

On one older instrument cluster, I had to run a thin steel putty knife
around to break the "seal" between the rubber and the dash - then I could
push it out from the back.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Let’s just say this:  If you want to pull the cluster, try pushing it out
> from the back first.  If that doesn’t work, buy a set of hooks.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, I should not need hooks?
> >
> > RB
> >
> > On 14/02/2018 11:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> They do, but the older clusters usually push out from the back pretty
> easy.  That and they’re more accessible from the back as well.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Do these work for all of the older MB's? IE - my 1976 300D?
> >>> I need to do something about my dash lights rheostat that no longer
> permits any light. It used to work if I wiggled it around a bit, but not
> any more. Makes any driving at night a bit difficult and somewhat dangerous
> as I cannot see my speed or the oil pressure, temperature etc.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Let’s just say this:  If you want to pull the cluster, try pushing it out from 
the back first.  If that doesn’t work, buy a set of hooks.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, I should not need hooks?
> 
> RB
> 
> On 14/02/2018 11:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> They do, but the older clusters usually push out from the back pretty easy.  
>> That and they’re more accessible from the back as well.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do these work for all of the older MB's? IE - my 1976 300D?
>>> I need to do something about my dash lights rheostat that no longer permits 
>>> any light. It used to work if I wiggled it around a bit, but not any more. 
>>> Makes any driving at night a bit difficult and somewhat dangerous as I 
>>> cannot see my speed or the oil pressure, temperature etc.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 


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[MBZ] Wonderful Wednesday!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Updated the blog:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html

Parts pick up for a bunch of the stuff I needed, I slathered Leatherique over 
the seats as we’re having a nice sunny day that will bake the crap out of the 
interior, and painted the instrument needles.

Rest of the day is caught up with appointments, HOA board meeting, Valentine’s 
Day stuff, so I don’t expect to get anything else done.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, I should not need hooks?

RB

On 14/02/2018 11:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

They do, but the older clusters usually push out from the back pretty easy.  
That and they’re more accessible from the back as well.

-D



On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Do these work for all of the older MB's? IE - my 1976 300D?
I need to do something about my dash lights rheostat that no longer permits any 
light. It used to work if I wiggled it around a bit, but not any more. Makes 
any driving at night a bit difficult and somewhat dangerous as I cannot see my 
speed or the oil pressure, temperature etc.

RB

On 14/02/2018 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Craig,

Just got my official MB pulling hooks out of the tool chest.  Here’s what I can 
tell you:

Part number: 140 589 02 33 00
Length of wire: approximately 6” from handle to hook
Hook length: 3/16”
Wire diameter: ~ 2 mm

There is a black line approximately 2-1/2” up from the end with the hook.  I 
suspect that’s a reference point for how far you’re supposed to stick them into 
the dash before rotating to engage the cluster.  I’ll check today as I’m 
planning on pulling the cluster on the 400E.

Here is a pair on the island of large women:

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mercedes-Instrument-Cluster-140589023300/dp/B00VU0D7KO


-D







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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 14/02/2018 10:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

This is beefcake - post it to banned.



You might have noticed, that on banned, there is a preference for 
cheesecake.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They do, but the older clusters usually push out from the back pretty easy.  
That and they’re more accessible from the back as well.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do these work for all of the older MB's? IE - my 1976 300D?
> I need to do something about my dash lights rheostat that no longer permits 
> any light. It used to work if I wiggled it around a bit, but not any more. 
> Makes any driving at night a bit difficult and somewhat dangerous as I cannot 
> see my speed or the oil pressure, temperature etc.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 14/02/2018 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Craig,
>> 
>> Just got my official MB pulling hooks out of the tool chest.  Here’s what I 
>> can tell you:
>> 
>> Part number: 140 589 02 33 00
>> Length of wire: approximately 6” from handle to hook
>> Hook length: 3/16”
>> Wire diameter: ~ 2 mm
>> 
>> There is a black line approximately 2-1/2” up from the end with the hook.  I 
>> suspect that’s a reference point for how far you’re supposed to stick them 
>> into the dash before rotating to engage the cluster.  I’ll check today as 
>> I’m planning on pulling the cluster on the 400E.
>> 
>> Here is a pair on the island of large women:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mercedes-Instrument-Cluster-140589023300/dp/B00VU0D7KO
>> 
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Do these work for all of the older MB's? IE - my 1976 300D?
I need to do something about my dash lights rheostat that no longer 
permits any light. It used to work if I wiggled it around a bit, but not 
any more. Makes any driving at night a bit difficult and somewhat 
dangerous as I cannot see my speed or the oil pressure, temperature etc.


RB

On 14/02/2018 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Craig,

Just got my official MB pulling hooks out of the tool chest.  Here’s what I can 
tell you:

Part number: 140 589 02 33 00
Length of wire: approximately 6” from handle to hook
Hook length: 3/16”
Wire diameter: ~ 2 mm

There is a black line approximately 2-1/2” up from the end with the hook.  I 
suspect that’s a reference point for how far you’re supposed to stick them into 
the dash before rotating to engage the cluster.  I’ll check today as I’m 
planning on pulling the cluster on the 400E.

Here is a pair on the island of large women:

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mercedes-Instrument-Cluster-140589023300/dp/B00VU0D7KO


-D





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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I don't know about high inflation pressure, but I would certainly go out 
and drive it a bunch more before I gave up on the tires. I almost wonder 
if lower pressure would permit more flex as I assume these are radial 
tires. I would not go below minimum pressure but I wonder if maximum 
would help any.


I sold a boat on a tandem axle trailer to a fellow a few years ago. The 
trailer had new tires and wheels that I had put on it, but had sat for a 
couple of years without moving.
The buyer took off on a 200 mile trip pulling this 22 foot fibreglass 
inboard outboard late at night and later told me he wondered how he was 
going to do it as the trailer acted like it had square tires.

After about 25 miles, it smoothed out and was fine.

RB

On 14/02/2018 7:27 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Inflate the tires to max sidewall rated pressure, and then drive around for
an hour or two, and I'll bet they revert from squares back to circles.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


So the guy with the 124 cab called again today seeming really anxious to
swap cars.  I told him maybe Saturday but I want to drive this car for a
couple of days to see what else pops up.  I drove it today for a couple of
miles, which from what I can tell is the only 2 miles it has been driven in
the last 5+ years. Probably closer to 10 years.  Who knows.  Anyway, tires
look good, still have the nipples on them.  However when you get it up to
about 50 it feels like its driving on square tires and feels like the car
will fly apart.  I thought about trying to balance them being that I am
cheap, but I guess I will go ahead and install the new set of tires I
bought for the other 240D.  I also smelled something burning like brake
fluid maybe even though the brakes appear to work fine.  From looking under
the car looks like one of the calipers might be leaking.  Guess I will need
to swap that out.  I got a belt that seems to start squeeling at times so I
will replace the 2 belts on it.  I will see what flaps has since I wont
have time to wait for an order to come in.


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Can confirm 201 models use this system. I think Fred has one of the valves I 
bought but never used.
-Curt


On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:26:46 AM EST, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On the peach parts forum, there's a claim that the 201 models used this
arrangement, so if there are official MB parts support for things like the
vacuum controlled monovalve, that would be huge.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For $100 that looks like a no brainer.  These guys are really good, so I’m
> sure it is well designed and thought out.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-
> circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
> >
> > Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
> >
> > I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a
> rubber
> > diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Makes it into the system a 201 uses?
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:17:40 AM EST, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/

Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?

I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber
diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] My ‘71 220

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is beefcake - post it to banned.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 250 approaching 5 figures

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You spent 3 months in Greece you lucky dog.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I (my family) has a 1971 220 in Greece. My parents bought it new in New
> York and picked it up in Germany via European delivery. They drove it to
> Greece where they lived at the time. My father used it as a daily driver
> from 1971-1986. It now only gets occasional use when we visit. It is the
> same color as the one on BAT, heile beige with brown mb Tex, auto tranny,
> manual windows and a rare power sunroof. It is in pristine condition. Last
> time I was there I spent three months detailing it!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Closing today on BAT.  Has the highly coveted beige paint, faux cognac
> > interior, and crank window option.  YET - it also sports a zebrano wood
> > dash which is quite uncharacteristic for the plebeian W114 sedan weries.
> > I've actually grown fond of this one.
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-
> 250/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-02-14
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am on Cloud Nine since installing an OEM insert into my W123 300TD
monovalve assembly.  I get HEAT now on the COLDEST days. no matter HOW FAST
I am driving.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Jaime.
>
> +1
>
> Except for two (genuine MB) diaphragm changes mine still works to spec.
>
> (1985 300TD)
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Jaime
> Kopchinski via Mercedes 
> Sent: 14 February 2018 10:31
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Jaime Kopchinski
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum
> controlled?
>
> Another fix for something that isn’t broken.
>
> If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find.  In fact,
> the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly.  That
> is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user.
>
> I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a
> few times.
>
> It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better
> spendt on just making it work as designed.  The cars have run for 30-40
> years with the original design, why change it now?
>
> Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

He offered it and I’ll take it.  Whether or not I’ll put it on the car is yet 
to be determined.  Understand that there are parts of the year down here where 
we’re inundated with “love bugs” that literally cover the front of your car to 
the point where their remains can damage the paint if left in place for a 
while.  I would probably use it at that time as a protective measure, but 
otherwise leave it off.

"This species' reputation as a public nuisance is due not to any bite or sting 
(it is incapable of either), but to its slightly acidic body chemistry. Because 
airborne lovebugs can exist in enormous numbers near highways, they die in 
large numbers on automobile windshields, hoods, and radiator grills when the 
vehicles travel at high speeds. If left for more than an hour or two, the 
remains become extremely difficult to remove. Their body chemistry has a nearly 
neutral 6.5 pH but may become acidic at 4.25 pH if left on the car for a day. 
In the past, the acidity of the dead adult body, especially the female's egg 
masses, often resulted in pits and etches in automotive paint and chrome if not 
quickly removed. However, advances in automotive paints and protective coatings 
have reduced this threat significantly. Now the greatest concern is excessive 
clogging of vehicle radiator air passages by the bodies of the adults, with a 
reduction of the cooling effect on engines, and the obstruction of windshields 
when the remains of the adults and egg masses are smeared on the glass.

Lovebug adults are attracted to light-colored surfaces, especially if they are 
freshly painted, but adults congregate almost anywhere, apparently reacting to 
the effects of sunlight on automobile fumes, asphalt, and other products 
affected by environmental factors still not completely understood."

Reference:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovebug

-D

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Please do NOT install a bra on that beautiful car.  We need to see its 
> natural curves.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> I figure I’l have a total of about $2500 into the car when it’s all said and 
> done, including acquisition and shipping. I just set up a meet with a local 
> W140/W124 buddy who I’ve given a boatload of spares to, so now he’s returning 
> the favor and has a bunch of W124 stuff for me, like a rear view mirror, ash 
> tray, brand new bra for the front of the car and some other goodies.  Nice.
> 
> Youngest son says the burl steering wheel is in the storage locker, so I need 
> to go over there and dig it out.  That will look nice.
> 
> With the car on a Hagerty policy it’s $318/year for full coverage. To have 
> around as a spare ride is easy for that kind of expense.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> >
> > I would like to buy a car and have it delivered to your house for repair 
> > and Martha treatment!  Project is looking good!   You should save all this 
> > just in case son or someone else wrecks its later.  This car is going to be 
> > worth a lot when you are done than a similar car with similar miles!
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:29 PM
> > To: Mercedes List 
> > Subject: [MBZ] It's Arrived!
> >
> > 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a very 
> > thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
> >
> > http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 250 approaching 5 figures

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

I (my family) has a 1971 220 in Greece. My parents bought it new in New York 
and picked it up in Germany via European delivery. They drove it to Greece 
where they lived at the time. My father used it as a daily driver from 
1971-1986. It now only gets occasional use when we visit. It is the same color 
as the one on BAT, heile beige with brown mb Tex, auto tranny, manual windows 
and a rare power sunroof. It is in pristine condition. Last time I was there I 
spent three months detailing it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Closing today on BAT.  Has the highly coveted beige paint, faux cognac
> interior, and crank window option.  YET - it also sports a zebrano wood
> dash which is quite uncharacteristic for the plebeian W114 sedan weries.
> I've actually grown fond of this one.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-250/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-02-14
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Please do NOT install a bra on that beautiful car.  We need to see its
natural curves.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I figure I’l have a total of about $2500 into the car when it’s all said
> and done, including acquisition and shipping. I just set up a meet with a
> local W140/W124 buddy who I’ve given a boatload of spares to, so now he’s
> returning the favor and has a bunch of W124 stuff for me, like a rear view
> mirror, ash tray, brand new bra for the front of the car and some other
> goodies.  Nice.
>
> Youngest son says the burl steering wheel is in the storage locker, so I
> need to go over there and dig it out.  That will look nice.
>
> With the car on a Hagerty policy it’s $318/year for full coverage. To have
> around as a spare ride is easy for that kind of expense.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Donald Snook 
> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to buy a car and have it delivered to your house for repair
> and Martha treatment!  Project is looking good!   You should save all this
> just in case son or someone else wrecks its later.  This car is going to be
> worth a lot when you are done than a similar car with similar miles!
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:29 PM
> > To: Mercedes List 
> > Subject: [MBZ] It's Arrived!
> >
> > 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
> >
> > http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely not.  I bought mine from my dealer just a few months ago.  All over 
the aftemarket, too.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if they're NLA.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Craig,
> 
> Just got my official MB pulling hooks out of the tool chest.  Here’s what I 
> can tell you:
> 
> Part number: 140 589 02 33 00
> Length of wire: approximately 6” from handle to hook
> Hook length: 3/16”
> Wire diameter: ~ 2 mm
> 
> There is a black line approximately 2-1/2” up from the end with the hook.  I 
> suspect that’s a reference point for how far you’re supposed to stick them 
> into the dash before rotating to engage the cluster.  I’ll check today as I’m 
> planning on pulling the cluster on the 400E.
> 
> Here is a pair on the island of large women:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mercedes-Instrument-Cluster-140589023300/dp/B00VU0D7KO
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Jaime.

+1

Except for two (genuine MB) diaphragm changes mine still works to spec.

(1985 300TD)


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

Another fix for something that isn’t broken.

If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find.  In fact,
the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly.  That
is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user.

I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a
few times.

It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better
spendt on just making it work as designed.  The cars have run for 30-40
years with the original design, why change it now?

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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder if they're NLA.

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Craig,
>
> Just got my official MB pulling hooks out of the tool chest.  Here’s what
> I can tell you:
>
> Part number: 140 589 02 33 00
> Length of wire: approximately 6” from handle to hook
> Hook length: 3/16”
> Wire diameter: ~ 2 mm
>
> There is a black line approximately 2-1/2” up from the end with the hook.
> I suspect that’s a reference point for how far you’re supposed to stick
> them into the dash before rotating to engage the cluster.  I’ll check today
> as I’m planning on pulling the cluster on the 400E.
>
> Here is a pair on the island of large women:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mercedes-Instrument-
> Cluster-140589023300/dp/B00VU0D7KO
>
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:08:49 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> I used heavy coat hanger wire bent into a “T” for years until I finally
> >> popped for a set of the official MB pullers a year ago.  They are
> >> stout!!
> >
> > For the official MB pullers:
> >
> >   - What is the diameter of the wire?
> >
> >   - How long is the bent portion?
> >
> >   - What is the part number?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Craig
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[MBZ] 1972 250 approaching 5 figures

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Closing today on BAT.  Has the highly coveted beige paint, faux cognac
interior, and crank window option.  YET - it also sports a zebrano wood
dash which is quite uncharacteristic for the plebeian W114 sedan weries.
I've actually grown fond of this one.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would agree for the most part as a purist, however, I see the circulating 
pump as a time bomb which, if not fused to prevent potential damage to the rest 
of the system, I would easily replace wth a more reliable arrangement.

I noticed the circulating pump on the 400E has been disconnected.  Hmm.

-D



> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Another fix for something that isn’t broken.
> 
> If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find.  In fact,
> the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly.  That
> is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user.
> 
> I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a
> few times.
> 
> It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better
> spendt on just making it work as designed.  The cars have run for 30-40
> years with the original design, why change it now?
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:17 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
>> 
>> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
>> 
>> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber
>> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
>> -
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>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Amen

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Another fix for something that isn’t broken.
> 
> If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find.  In fact,
> the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly.  That
> is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user.
> 
> I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a
> few times.
> 
> It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better
> spendt on just making it work as designed.  The cars have run for 30-40
> years with the original design, why change it now?
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:17 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
>> 
>> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
>> 
>> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber
>> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
>> -
>> Max
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes 201 had a vacuum controlled heater valve. It sucks.

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On the peach parts forum, there's a claim that the 201 models used this
> arrangement, so if there are official MB parts support for things like the
> vacuum controlled monovalve, that would be huge.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> For $100 that looks like a no brainer.  These guys are really good, so I’m
>> sure it is well designed and thought out.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-
>> circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
>>> 
>>> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
>>> 
>>> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a
>> rubber
>>> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
>>> -
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Seems to me the monovalve setup is usually pretty reliable. Seems more reliable 
that this solution. 

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> On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
> 
> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
> 
> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber
> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

124 vice 123: I'd change it because the 1995 E300 Diesel monovalve is not
rebuild-able (no insert is sold) and is unique to the 1995 E300 model and
is pretty darn pricey from MB ($140 or more?  I could be wrong on that).
In addition, the replacement monovalve available from MB has a bad
reputation for failure within weeks or months of installation (cracks in
the plastic body).

Knock on wood, mine is working just fine in my E300.  However I'm pretty
sure the monovalve in my 124.193 is failing and though it is more common,
no insert is sold, so rather than roll the dice on an OE part I may take
the opportunity to try out this kit.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Another fix for something that isn’t broken.
>
> If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find.  In fact,
> the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly.  That
> is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user.
>
> I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a
> few times.
>
> It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better
> spendt on just making it work as designed.  The cars have run for 30-40
> years with the original design, why change it now?
>
> Jaime
>
>
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[MBZ] W124 Odometer Gears

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup, the little gear in the odometer is toast.  I know there are a number of 
odometer gear suppliers out there - who is recommended?

Thanks!

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Another fix for something that isn’t broken.

If you use a genuine MB monovalve insert, they work just find.  In fact,
the climate control works exceptionally well when repaired correctly.  That
is, it requires no adjustment at all by the user.

I haven’t touched mine in weeks or months, except for pressing defrost a
few times.

It’s a shame these kits are installed when the effort would be better
spendt on just making it work as designed.  The cars have run for 30-40
years with the original design, why change it now?

Jaime


On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:17 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
>
> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
>
> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber
> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

On the peach parts forum, there's a claim that the 201 models used this
arrangement, so if there are official MB parts support for things like the
vacuum controlled monovalve, that would be huge.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For $100 that looks like a no brainer.  These guys are really good, so I’m
> sure it is well designed and thought out.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-
> circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
> >
> > Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
> >
> > I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a
> rubber
> > diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For $100 that looks like a no brainer.  These guys are really good, so I’m sure 
it is well designed and thought out.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/
> 
> Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?
> 
> I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber
> diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I figure I’l have a total of about $2500 into the car when it’s all said and 
done, including acquisition and shipping. I just set up a meet with a local 
W140/W124 buddy who I’ve given a boatload of spares to, so now he’s returning 
the favor and has a bunch of W124 stuff for me, like a rear view mirror, ash 
tray, brand new bra for the front of the car and some other goodies.  Nice.

Youngest son says the burl steering wheel is in the storage locker, so I need 
to go over there and dig it out.  That will look nice.

With the car on a Hagerty policy it’s $318/year for full coverage. To have 
around as a spare ride is easy for that kind of expense.

-D


> On Feb 14, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> I would like to buy a car and have it delivered to your house for repair and 
> Martha treatment!  Project is looking good!   You should save all this just 
> in case son or someone else wrecks its later.  This car is going to be worth 
> a lot when you are done than a similar car with similar miles! 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:29 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: [MBZ] It's Arrived!
> 
> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a very 
> thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] W123 Monovalve final solution - make it vacuum controlled?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

http://www.klimakit.com/product/monovalve-and-coolant-circulator-pump-eliminator-upgrade-kit/

Anyone care to get this $100 kit and test it for us?

I wonder how the vacuum controlled valve works (does it also have a rubber
diaphragm inside that will eventually fail).
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I would like to buy a car and have it delivered to your house for repair and 
Martha treatment!  Project is looking good!   You should save all this just in 
case son or someone else wrecks its later.  This car is going to be worth a lot 
when you are done than a similar car with similar miles! 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:29 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Subject: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a very 
thorough inventory of issues later tonight:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html

-D




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Re: [MBZ] Wonder how hard this would be to fix?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Get some duct tape, put a bungee on the hood, and give it to the boy or 
the wife to drive.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Inflate the tires to max sidewall rated pressure, and then drive around for
an hour or two, and I'll bet they revert from squares back to circles.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So the guy with the 124 cab called again today seeming really anxious to
> swap cars.  I told him maybe Saturday but I want to drive this car for a
> couple of days to see what else pops up.  I drove it today for a couple of
> miles, which from what I can tell is the only 2 miles it has been driven in
> the last 5+ years. Probably closer to 10 years.  Who knows.  Anyway, tires
> look good, still have the nipples on them.  However when you get it up to
> about 50 it feels like its driving on square tires and feels like the car
> will fly apart.  I thought about trying to balance them being that I am
> cheap, but I guess I will go ahead and install the new set of tires I
> bought for the other 240D.  I also smelled something burning like brake
> fluid maybe even though the brakes appear to work fine.  From looking under
> the car looks like one of the calipers might be leaking.  Guess I will need
> to swap that out.  I got a belt that seems to start squeeling at times so I
> will replace the 2 belts on it.  I will see what flaps has since I wont
> have time to wait for an order to come in.
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Craig,

Just got my official MB pulling hooks out of the tool chest.  Here’s what I can 
tell you:

Part number: 140 589 02 33 00
Length of wire: approximately 6” from handle to hook
Hook length: 3/16”
Wire diameter: ~ 2 mm

There is a black line approximately 2-1/2” up from the end with the hook.  I 
suspect that’s a reference point for how far you’re supposed to stick them into 
the dash before rotating to engage the cluster.  I’ll check today as I’m 
planning on pulling the cluster on the 400E.

Here is a pair on the island of large women:

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mercedes-Instrument-Cluster-140589023300/dp/B00VU0D7KO


-D


> On Feb 13, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:08:49 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I used heavy coat hanger wire bent into a “T” for years until I finally
>> popped for a set of the official MB pullers a year ago.  They are
>> stout!!
> 
> For the official MB pullers:
> 
>   - What is the diameter of the wire?
> 
>   - How long is the bent portion?
> 
>   - What is the part number?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks for the offer Fred, it is appreciated.  Looks like a local buddy of mine 
has one - I’m meeting him today to pick it up.  If for some reason his falls 
through I’ll let you know.

Thanks!

Dan


> On Feb 13, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan.
> 
> I have an ashtray from a 1989 260E.
> 
> It is one of those push to release type.
> 
> Pic if you need them.
> 
> Fred.
> 
> 
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dan--- via 
> Mercedes 
> Sent: 13 February 2018 14:58
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> Subject: [MBZ] W124 Parts
> 
> Anyone have a functioning ash tray assembly and interior rear view mirror for 
> a W124?
> 
> I don’t care about the condition of the wood on the ash tray, as I’ll be 
> using mine. I just want one that’s functional and opens/closes properly.
> 
> PM me if you’ve got something, thanks!
> 
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