[MBZ] Another BaT Flip For Dan

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/1988-mercedes-300ce-coupe/6528280368.html
Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:20:02 -0500 tyee165 via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Cracked dash, cracked and peeling wood on dash, split seats, damaged
> grill, dirty carpets, rusty underneath etc 

Jury-rigged rear exhaust hanger, rust bubbles on rear of trunk lid,
paint chip on rear of right-front wheel well, paint damage between
left-front wheel well and driver's door, strange wire on passenger's
side of console, damage on dark member to the left of the driver's
rug, driver's rug dirty and damaged, storage bins on the rears of the
front seats sagging and stretched, damage on center of bottom cushion
of rear seat, driveshaft tunnel rug discolored, console vent beneath
ash tray and ash tray dirty, colored dings on passenger's map pocket,
non-standard fasteners and dirt on inside of driver's door, leaves in
engine compartment, rust around vehicle identification plate, factory
rust-proofing coating damaged underneath passenger's compartment, etc.!

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Re: [MBZ] Brakes!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 01:42:57 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Did a front caliper on the Jetta today, the pads were still good but
> the caliper wouldn't release. I put in a new hose since the old one
> looked original. Only took me around an hour which I thought was okay.
> Interestingly a 15mm wrench which isn't included with the Harbor
> Freight kit I had in the garage would be quite handy. I had an
> adjustable that was good enough. I think the larger set I keep in my
> lantern rebuild kit has 15mm. I used my pressure brake bleeder for the
> second time. Boy I'm glad I bought that, bleeding brakes is so easy
> with the right tools...

Congratulations!


Craig

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[MBZ] W123 for Michael Esh or Mitch

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-mercedes-300-turbo/6526690662.html

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Re: [MBZ] Broke Brakes!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Scott sez:

>Not much.  Just tell everyone I meet that >would listen, naming names.


Yeah. Social media helps with that.  

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Broke Brakes!

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Not much.  Just tell everyone I meet that would listen, naming names.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Curley McLain via Mercedes
> 
> ...
> 
> What would y'all do in a case like this?
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Cracked dash, cracked and peeling wood on dash, split seats, damaged grill, 
dirty carpets, rusty underneath etc 


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-03-12  8:04 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Subject: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s? 
Kind of shocked that this 300D didn't get much love.  It's green, which is
unusual.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300d/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-03-12
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Re: [MBZ] Broke Brakes!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, that was my first comment to him.   "That's why I do my own work.  
I don't trust my life to stealers."followed by:   "The stealer 
monkey has incentives to cut corners.  He has no incentive to look out 
for you."


I've changed many baster cylinders, and never had a problem 
crossthreading the flare nuts.   It only takes a tiny bit of care to be 
sure the tubing is aligned.  Then the nut screws in without a problem.



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
March 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM

Work on my own cars.

Oh, and on point#1, sometimes getting the threads started on brake 
lines can be troublesome. Flat rate mechanics are in too big of a hurry...


Rick



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Re: [MBZ] Broke Brakes!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curley sez:

>What would y'all do in a case like this?

Work on my own cars. 

Oh, and on point#1, sometimes getting the threads started on brake lines can be 
troublesome. Flat rate mechanics are in too big of a hurry...

Rick


 
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[MBZ] Broke Brakes!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

SIL took his bowtie car to the stealer Thurs because it had a brake 
idiot light on.  They changed the master and booster.  Claimed the 
booster had to be changed because the master cyl leaked.   (BILL 
BOOSTER!)  Got it back, drove around Fri.   Sat he got about 60 miles, 
and had NO brakes.


Had it towed and dropped at the stealer's front door.Today the 
stealer admitted that the shop mnkey crossthreaded the nut on one of the 
brake lines into the master.  so, they replaced a brake line.


I would be livid.

#1  monkey should be able to thread in a brake line nut without 
crossthreading
#2  Monkey should be able to check to be sure it was not leaking after 
completion

#3 Shop manager should check for leaks before the car is released

What would y'all do in a case like this?



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[MBZ] Crack or meth?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1976 Mercedes Benz 300d sedan diesel classic

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/1976-mercedes-benz-300d-sedan/6528232975.html


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Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan sez:

>The 400E actually sold for a reasonable >price. That was good to see. It was a 
>decent >driver quality car

W124's don't seem to be in high demand, except for coupe's and cabriolet's. 
Which is good if you're in the market for reasonable drivers. Same goes for 
210's. 

Rick
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[MBZ] Brakes!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Did a front caliper on the Jetta today, the pads were still good but the 
caliper wouldn't release. I put in a new hose since the old one looked 
original. Only took me around an hour which I thought was okay. Interestingly a 
15mm wrench which isn't included with the Harbor Freight kit I had in the 
garage would be quite handy. I had an adjustable that was good enough. I think 
the larger set I keep in my lantern rebuild kit has 15mm.
I used my pressure brake bleeder for the second time. Boy I'm glad I bought 
that, bleeding brakes is so easy with the right tools...

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, I do have ASR.

This is a $650 car, so I’m not about to be dumping money into it for anything 
more than what is necessary at this point.

But thanks for the suggestion!

-D


> On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 2.82 seriously wakes the car up. You can get a diff on ebay in great
> condition for $150. Nobody expects an old mercedes to romp off the line
> like that; it makes LSD a reasonable consideration to avoid wheelspin, but
> I gather you probably have ASR.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Heh.  Dave M. already suggested this.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Super! Now imagine it with a 2.82 rear... Just be sure to match the diff
>> to the ASR status of the 400e, as the half shafts are different lengths.
>> Direct bolt in from a w140.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 1:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon.  Runs like a champ, no
>> warning lights.
>>> 
>>> Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and
>> it’s not getting new ones until Wednesday.
>>> 
>>> OH. MY. G-D.
>>> 
>>> A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8.  I have driven many, many W124s with the
>> venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like
>> this one.  I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.
>>> 
>>> Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up
>> good.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well maybe but my 124 is,still doing well @ 280K plus. Could be a martha
thing.LOL.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 12, 2018 9:20 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> They’re known as “noise encapsulation panels”.  And believe it or not,
> they do make a difference, especially on the diesels.
>
> And as you commented, they’re often removed during service and simply not
> put back.
>
> Like headlight wipers on the cars that have them, I consider noise
> encapsulation panels a canary in the coal mine as to the manner in which a
> car was maintained.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I take mine off or just don't put them back when they get buggered. I
> know
> > diesels sound reduction etc etc. I have 2 or 3 124 pans,around here.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Exactly 

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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They’re known as “noise encapsulation panels”.  And believe it or not, they 
> do make a difference, especially on the diesels.
> 
> And as you commented, they’re often removed during service and simply not put 
> back.
> 
> Like headlight wipers on the cars that have them, I consider noise 
> encapsulation panels a canary in the coal mine as to the manner in which a 
> car was maintained.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I take mine off or just don't put them back when they get buggered. I know
>> diesels sound reduction etc etc. I have 2 or 3 124 pans,around here.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

2.82 seriously wakes the car up. You can get a diff on ebay in great
condition for $150. Nobody expects an old mercedes to romp off the line
like that; it makes LSD a reasonable consideration to avoid wheelspin, but
I gather you probably have ASR.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Heh.  Dave M. already suggested this.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Super! Now imagine it with a 2.82 rear... Just be sure to match the diff
> to the ASR status of the 400e, as the half shafts are different lengths.
> Direct bolt in from a w140.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 1:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon.  Runs like a champ, no
> warning lights.
> >
> > Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and
> it’s not getting new ones until Wednesday.
> >
> > OH. MY. G-D.
> >
> > A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8.  I have driven many, many W124s with the
> venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like
> this one.  I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.
> >
> > Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up
> good.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They’re known as “noise encapsulation panels”.  And believe it or not, they do 
make a difference, especially on the diesels.

And as you commented, they’re often removed during service and simply not put 
back.

Like headlight wipers on the cars that have them, I consider noise 
encapsulation panels a canary in the coal mine as to the manner in which a car 
was maintained.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I take mine off or just don't put them back when they get buggered. I know
> diesels sound reduction etc etc. I have 2 or 3 124 pans,around here.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The 400E actually sold for a reasonable price.  That was good to see. It was a 
decent driver quality car - I would have been surprised if the price got run up 
on it.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe the BAT crack is running out
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Kind of shocked that this 300D didn't get much love.  It's green, which is
>> unusual.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

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Maybe the BAT crack is running out

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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Kind of shocked that this 300D didn't get much love.  It's green, which is
> unusual.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] nice wagon

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

In the north it is rust. 210 is secret code for rust.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> 6 days to go so the price will creep up for sure.  Whyat's the downside to
> this model?
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The Max needs to buy that'un to Dieselize.
> >
> > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> March 12, 2018 at 7:46 PM
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E-320-Wa
> >> gon-4-Matic/273105794991?hash=item3f965fb7af:g:FvgAAOSw6mJansNQ&vxp=mtr
> >>
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[MBZ] Is the market tanking for 115s?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Kind of shocked that this 300D didn't get much love.  It's green, which is
unusual.

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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I take mine off or just don't put them back when they get buggered. I know
diesels sound reduction etc etc. I have 2 or 3 124 pans,around here.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 12, 2018 8:56 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
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> What's so special about belly pans?
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > If the belly pans were in place it would make it easier for the mice to
> > chew things
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
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> > > On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > That adds at least $100 to the value of the car, after the mouse nests
> > are
> > > cleared out.
> > >
> > > Maybe the mices chewed through the gas lines and drained the tank?
> > >
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] nice wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

6 days to go so the price will creep up for sure.  Whyat's the downside to
this model?

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The Max needs to buy that'un to Dieselize.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 12, 2018 at 7:46 PM
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E-320-Wa
>> gon-4-Matic/273105794991?hash=item3f965fb7af:g:FvgAAOSw6mJansNQ&vxp=mtr
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

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What's so special about belly pans?

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> If the belly pans were in place it would make it easier for the mice to
> chew things
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That adds at least $100 to the value of the car, after the mouse nests
> are
> > cleared out.
> >
> > Maybe the mices chewed through the gas lines and drained the tank?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thank you!  A real relief, as I wasn’t looking forward to doing battle with the 
electronics in this thing.  It’s extremely rare for them to be the culprit, but 
I didn’t want to be the “one”, either.

Now to sort the rest of the piddly stuff….

-D

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Congrats!   Waytago!
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 12, 2018 at 3:48 PM
>> Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon. Runs like a champ, no warning 
>> lights.
>> 
>> Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and it’s 
>> not getting new ones until Wednesday.
>> 
>> OH. MY. G-D.
>> 
>> A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8. I have driven many, many W124s with the 
>> venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like 
>> this one. I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.
>> 
>> Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up 
>> good.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] nice wagon

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The Max needs to buy that'un to Dieselize.


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March 12, 2018 at 7:46 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E-320-Wagon-4-Matic/273105794991?hash=item3f965fb7af:g:FvgAAOSw6mJansNQ&vxp=mtr 





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[MBZ] nice wagon

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

> "Government intelligence in action"  Who can invent a better oxymoron?

How about "political correctness"?


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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Congrats!   Waytago!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 12, 2018 at 3:48 PM
Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon. Runs like a champ, no 
warning lights.


Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and 
it’s not getting new ones until Wednesday.


OH. MY. G-D.

A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8. I have driven many, many W124s with the 
venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was 
like this one. I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.


Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it 
up good.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

If the belly pans were in place it would make it easier for the mice to chew 
things

--R
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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That adds at least $100 to the value of the car, after the mouse nests are
> cleared out.
> 
> Maybe the mices chewed through the gas lines and drained the tank?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That adds at least $100 to the value of the car, after the mouse nests are
cleared out.

Maybe the mices chewed through the gas lines and drained the tank?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?
>
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Did I mention the belly pans are still in place?

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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No you didn’t.
> 
> "It even has the belly pans in place”
> 
> That’s from the post with the pictures.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Could be.  I forgot to mention the belly pans are still present. That is 
>> rare.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/12/2018 5:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 On 12/03/2018 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 So I got it home. Other than a few chewed nuts in the trunk I don’t see 
 any evidence of mice inside or chewed wires under the hood. I popped a 
 charged battery in it and I hear the pump kick on but it does not start. 
 The gauge shows empty so it could be as simple as it’s out of gas. 
 Probably needs fuel filters and maybe the tank cleaned out. We shall see. 
 The radio turns on and the antenna goes up but no sound comes out. It even 
 has the belly pans in place. Here are a few pics
 
>>> 
>>> Maybe the mice had a nest in the belly pan?
>>> 
>>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh.  Dave M. already suggested this.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel  wrote:
> 
> Super! Now imagine it with a 2.82 rear... Just be sure to match the diff to 
> the ASR status of the 400e, as the half shafts are different lengths. Direct 
> bolt in from a w140.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 1:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon.  Runs like a champ, no warning 
> lights.
> 
> Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and it’s not 
> getting new ones until Wednesday.
> 
> OH. MY. G-D.
> 
> A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8.  I have driven many, many W124s with the 
> venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like 
> this one.  I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.
> 
> Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up good.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Super! Now imagine it with a 2.82 rear... Just be sure to match the diff to
the ASR status of the 400e, as the half shafts are different lengths.
Direct bolt in from a w140.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018, 1:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon.  Runs like a champ, no
> warning lights.
>
> Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and it’s
> not getting new ones until Wednesday.
>
> OH. MY. G-D.
>
> A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8.  I have driven many, many W124s with the
> venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like
> this one.  I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.
>
> Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up
> good.
>
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No you didn’t.

"It even has the belly pans in place”

That’s from the post with the pictures.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could be.  I forgot to mention the belly pans are still present. That is rare.
> 
> 
> On 3/12/2018 5:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> On 12/03/2018 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> So I got it home. Other than a few chewed nuts in the trunk I don’t see any 
>>> evidence of mice inside or chewed wires under the hood. I popped a charged 
>>> battery in it and I hear the pump kick on but it does not start. The gauge 
>>> shows empty so it could be as simple as it’s out of gas. Probably needs 
>>> fuel filters and maybe the tank cleaned out. We shall see. The radio turns 
>>> on and the antenna goes up but no sound comes out. It even has the belly 
>>> pans in place. Here are a few pics
>>> 
>> 
>> Maybe the mice had a nest in the belly pan?
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] it has an all over problem

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

crush value I guess.


On 3/12/2018 5:59 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Why would such a thing be auctioned?  What possible value could that have?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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Should  be nothing for Poos to sort out though.

https://www.copart.com/lot/41690355




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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Could be.  I forgot to mention the belly pans are still present. That is 
rare.



On 3/12/2018 5:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 12/03/2018 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
So I got it home. Other than a few chewed nuts in the trunk I don’t 
see any evidence of mice inside or chewed wires under the hood. I 
popped a charged battery in it and I hear the pump kick on but it 
does not start. The gauge shows empty so it could be as simple as 
it’s out of gas. Probably needs fuel filters and maybe the tank 
cleaned out. We shall see. The radio turns on and the antenna goes up 
but no sound comes out. It even has the belly pans in place. Here are 
a few pics




Maybe the mice had a nest in the belly pan?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] it has an all over problem

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Why would such a thing be auctioned?  What possible value could that have?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Should  be nothing for Poos to sort out though.
>
> https://www.copart.com/lot/41690355
>
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe on BaT, post-Martha.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Is a decent 88 300e worth 2k?
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Re: [MBZ] it has an all over problem

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oh yeah, that'll buff right out...

-Curt






On Monday, March 12, 2018, 6:50:32 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Should  be nothing for Poos to sort out though.

https://www.copart.com/lot/41690355


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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 12/03/2018 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

So I got it home. Other than a few chewed nuts in the trunk I don’t see any 
evidence of mice inside or chewed wires under the hood. I popped a charged 
battery in it and I hear the pump kick on but it does not start. The gauge 
shows empty so it could be as simple as it’s out of gas. Probably needs fuel 
filters and maybe the tank cleaned out. We shall see. The radio turns on and 
the antenna goes up but no sound comes out. It even has the belly pans in 
place. Here are a few pics



Maybe the mice had a nest in the belly pan?

RB

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[MBZ] it has an all over problem

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Should  be nothing for Poos to sort out though.

https://www.copart.com/lot/41690355


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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Is a decent 88 300e worth 2k?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 5:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> Gas'er up, send to Dan for Martha Treatment, flip for $2k?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I got it home. Other than a few chewed nuts in the trunk I don’t see
>> any evidence of mice inside or chewed wires under the hood. I popped a
>> charged battery in it and I hear the pump kick on but it does not start.
>> The gauge shows empty so it could be as simple as it’s out of gas. Probably
>> needs fuel filters and maybe the tank cleaned out. We shall see. The radio
>> turns on and the antenna goes up but no sound comes out. It even has the
>> belly pans in place. Here are a few pics
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Re: [MBZ] The 300e

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Gas'er up, send to Dan for Martha Treatment, flip for $2k?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> So I got it home. Other than a few chewed nuts in the trunk I don’t see
> any evidence of mice inside or chewed wires under the hood. I popped a
> charged battery in it and I hear the pump kick on but it does not start.
> The gauge shows empty so it could be as simple as it’s out of gas. Probably
> needs fuel filters and maybe the tank cleaned out. We shall see. The radio
> turns on and the antenna goes up but no sound comes out. It even has the
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:00:09 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Yep, they are tons of fun to drive. A bitch to work on though. 

I wouldn't say it that way, but I agree working on them is well nigh
impossible.


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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Sounds like a keeper 

--R
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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon.  Runs like a champ, no warning 
> lights.
> 
> Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and it’s not 
> getting new ones until Wednesday.
> 
> OH. MY. G-D.
> 
> A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8.  I have driven many, many W124s with the 
> venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like 
> this one.  I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.
> 
> Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up good.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

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Not any worse than a W140 from what I can see.  The sides are tight, especially 
the driver’s side, but otherwise it doesn’t appear to be any worse than a W140.

I’ll let you know after I change engine mounts.  That will be a pig of a job, 
and the car needs them.

-D


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>  wrote:
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> Yep, they are tons of fun to drive. A bitch to work on though. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, they are tons of fun to drive. A bitch to work on though. 

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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon.  Runs like a champ, no warning 
> lights.
> 
> Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and it’s not 
> getting new ones until Wednesday.
> 
> OH. MY. G-D.
> 
> A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8.  I have driven many, many W124s with the 
> venerable 3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like 
> this one.  I can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.
> 
> Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up good.
> 
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[MBZ] IT'S ALIVE!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got the rebuilt ETA in the car this afternoon.  Runs like a champ, no warning 
lights.

Took it out for a quick drive, as the tires are a little sketchy and it’s not 
getting new ones until Wednesday.

OH. MY. G-D.

A W124 with a 4.2 liter V8.  I have driven many, many W124s with the venerable 
3.0 liter inline six, but I have never had a W124 that was like this one.  I 
can’t even imagine what a 500E would be like.

Once I get a new set of skins on the car I’ll take it out and wind it up good.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And if it does, I will ship you a jar of pepper jelly OR a box of unwanted
(by me) 123 parts.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's a good thought.  Start removing them from your routine in order of
> the latest vitamin you started talking, maybe wait about 48 hours after you
> stop each pill, and see if the hissing sound goes away.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Great.  Maybe one of the wonder vitamins I am taking daily is frizzing my
> > brain
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 11:59:53 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Nasty little critters that carry nasty little diseases.

I would phrase that, 

 Nasty little critters that carry nasty big diseases.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a good thought.  Start removing them from your routine in order of
the latest vitamin you started talking, maybe wait about 48 hours after you
stop each pill, and see if the hissing sound goes away.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Great.  Maybe one of the wonder vitamins I am taking daily is frizzing my
> brain
>
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great.  Maybe one of the wonder vitamins I am taking daily is frizzing my
brain

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The latest research I've come across identifies the source of Tinnitus to
> be located in the brain, rather than in the ear. The sounds you are hearing
> are "electrical discharge" located in the brain cells, according to the
> latest investigations.
>
> I didn't do the research... just read the results... your mileage may vary.
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the awesome feedback.  What a learned group!  I will
> definitely
> > check out the clinic at the U of M.
> >
> > The only logical explanation I can come up with is that the blood rushing
> > past some misaligned cilia (hairs) deep In the inner air are making the
> > hissing sound.  This might account for its constancy.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That would be the tuning aspect, somehow to generate an out-of-phase
> > > signal.  More research needed!
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/12/18 11:55 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> I can't think of a way the headphones could sample the "noise", much
> > less
> > >> generate an out-of-phase countering signal.
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Floyd
> > >> Thursby via Mercedes
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:41 AM
> > >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling headphones could work
> > to
> > >> generate anti-tinnitus sounds.  One would have to tune them to
> > individual
> > >> circumstances but the question is if the noise would cancel out
> whatever
> > >> the nerves or brain are doing, or if it would just add to the overall
> > >> sensation of more noise.
> > >>
> > >> --FT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 3/12/18 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around
> > >>> industrial engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a
> > >>> nuisance, but not debilitating, fortunately.
> > >>>
> > >>> One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay
> him
> > >>> out.  I consider myself lucky.
> > >>>
> > >>> -D
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  Andrew says:
> > 
> >  I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is
> > > not ambient but exists >inside my head
> > >
> >  Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT
> >  televisions. Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same
> frequency.
> >  Sounds like a cricket chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for
> many
> >  decades.
> > 
> >  It never goes away. Ever.
> > 
> >  At least you're not hearing voices in your head...
> > 
> >  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The interior does not smell like mice, so might not be bad. I did see evidence 
of mice in the trunk 

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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you going to strip it for parts, or sell the contents as food to a
> snake breeding lab?
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Pictures?
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> I stuck at $325 on that 300e and finally they accepted it. I didn’t really
>> think they would so I ended up stuck with the car.
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Re: [MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe. I will see once I get into it

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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it is worth more as parts?
> I 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM
>> I stuck at $325 on that 300e and finally they accepted it. I didn’t really 
>> think they would so I ended up stuck with the car. Picked it up earlier and 
>> as soon as they sat it on the trailer with the big fork lift mice started 
>> running out from under it. I thought of MMM.
>> 
>> Looks like it’s been parked under a tree for 10 years but we shall see what 
>> all it’s going to take to get it running and cleaned up
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The latest research I've come across identifies the source of Tinnitus to
be located in the brain, rather than in the ear. The sounds you are hearing
are "electrical discharge" located in the brain cells, according to the
latest investigations.

I didn't do the research... just read the results... your mileage may vary.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the awesome feedback.  What a learned group!  I will definitely
> check out the clinic at the U of M.
>
> The only logical explanation I can come up with is that the blood rushing
> past some misaligned cilia (hairs) deep In the inner air are making the
> hissing sound.  This might account for its constancy.
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That would be the tuning aspect, somehow to generate an out-of-phase
> > signal.  More research needed!
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/12/18 11:55 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> I can't think of a way the headphones could sample the "noise", much
> less
> >> generate an out-of-phase countering signal.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Floyd
> >> Thursby via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:41 AM
> >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus
> >>
> >> I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling headphones could work
> to
> >> generate anti-tinnitus sounds.  One would have to tune them to
> individual
> >> circumstances but the question is if the noise would cancel out whatever
> >> the nerves or brain are doing, or if it would just add to the overall
> >> sensation of more noise.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/12/18 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>> Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around
> >>> industrial engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a
> >>> nuisance, but not debilitating, fortunately.
> >>>
> >>> One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay him
> >>> out.  I consider myself lucky.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Andrew says:
> 
>  I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is
> > not ambient but exists >inside my head
> >
>  Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT
>  televisions. Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency.
>  Sounds like a cricket chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many
>  decades.
> 
>  It never goes away. Ever.
> 
>  At least you're not hearing voices in your head...
> 
>  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

[G Mann via Mercedes]

HAZMAT full body suit with breathing air source, would be your next wise
investment to rehab this mouse hotel on wheels.

Nasty little critters that carry nasty little diseases.

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> I stuck at $325 on that 300e and finally they accepted it. I didn’t really
> think they would so I ended up stuck with the car. Picked it up earlier and
> as soon as they sat it on the trailer with the big fork lift mice started
> running out from under it. I thought of MMM.
>
> Looks like it’s been parked under a tree for 10 years but we shall see
> what all it’s going to take to get it running and cleaned up
>
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Re: [MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Are you going to strip it for parts, or sell the contents as food to a
snake breeding lab?

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> Pictures?
>
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Maybe it is worth more as parts?


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM
I stuck at $325 on that 300e and finally they accepted it. I didn’t 
really think they would so I ended up stuck with the car. Picked it up 
earlier and as soon as they sat it on the trailer with the big fork 
lift mice started running out from under it. I thought of MMM.


Looks like it’s been parked under a tree for 10 years but we shall see 
what all it’s going to take to get it running and cleaned up




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Re: [MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Pictures?


Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks for the awesome feedback.  What a learned group!  I will definitely
check out the clinic at the U of M.

The only logical explanation I can come up with is that the blood rushing
past some misaligned cilia (hairs) deep In the inner air are making the
hissing sound.  This might account for its constancy.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That would be the tuning aspect, somehow to generate an out-of-phase
> signal.  More research needed!
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 3/12/18 11:55 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I can't think of a way the headphones could sample the "noise", much less
>> generate an out-of-phase countering signal.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd
>> Thursby via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:41 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Floyd Thursby
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus
>>
>> I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling headphones could work to
>> generate anti-tinnitus sounds.  One would have to tune them to individual
>> circumstances but the question is if the noise would cancel out whatever
>> the nerves or brain are doing, or if it would just add to the overall
>> sensation of more noise.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/18 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around
>>> industrial engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a
>>> nuisance, but not debilitating, fortunately.
>>>
>>> One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay him
>>> out.  I consider myself lucky.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Andrew says:

 I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is
> not ambient but exists >inside my head
>
 Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT
 televisions. Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency.
 Sounds like a cricket chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many
 decades.

 It never goes away. Ever.

 At least you're not hearing voices in your head...

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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Being in "agrarian societies" all my life, I have yet to find ONE farmer 
who is/was in favor of DST.   Might I politely suggest that someone has 
fed you a sack of excrement?


I have NEVER heard that one before!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 12, 2018 at 12:12 PM
That was part of it, and little to do with the Wednesday afternoon fun 
on the links of lawyers and bankers (my father was a banker, so I have 
direct experience in this area.)


Much of DST has to do with agrarian societies, the reasoning being 
that longer light into the evenings gives farmers more time to work 
the fields. While I can’t address all of this directly, I can tell you 
that based on personal experience as a young man, farmers did use DST 
to their advantage and it did help. When harvesting or detassling 
corn, being able to start later in the day and work later made a 
difference as the condensation or morning dew on the crops made it 
much harder to harvest or handle the plants. Dairy farmers, however, 
don’t like it, because cows are sensitive to time and changing their 
milking schedules can cause some serious affects on production. We 
heard about this a lot in Wisconsin.


Personally, I would like to see it gone. I know when we were growing 
up in Indiana it was PITA because different parts of the state were on 
different times….


-D




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[MBZ] My latest copart purchase.

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I stuck at $325 on that 300e and finally they accepted it. I didn’t really 
think they would so I ended up stuck with the car. Picked it up earlier and as 
soon as they sat it on the trailer with the big fork lift mice started running 
out from under it. I thought of MMM. 

Looks like it’s been parked under a tree for 10 years but we shall see what all 
it’s going to take to get it running and cleaned up 

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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow, that is too funny.  Good thing I hadn't just taken a sip of water or
coffee when I opened up that picture.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not only cows, but dogs don't like it either.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: Mercedes List
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later
>
> That was part of it, and little to do with the Wednesday afternoon fun on
> the links of lawyers and bankers (my father was a banker, so I have direct
> experience in this area.)
>
> Much of DST has to do with agrarian societies, the reasoning being that
> longer light into the evenings gives farmers more time to work the fields.
> While I can’t address all of this directly, I can tell you that based on
> personal experience as a young man, farmers did use DST to their advantage
> and it did help.  When harvesting or detassling corn, being able to start
> later in the day and work later made a difference as the condensation or
> morning dew on the crops made it much harder to harvest or handle the
> plants.  Dairy farmers, however, don’t like it, because cows are sensitive
> to time and changing their milking schedules can cause some serious affects
> on production.  We heard about this a lot in Wisconsin.
>
> Personally, I would like to see it gone.  I know when we were growing up
> in Indiana it was  PITA because different parts of the state were on
> different times….
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The feds meddled in the 70s.  Jimmay cahtah's "energy saving" program
> probably.  AZ and HI opted out, but everyone else had to begin and end
> stupid time on the same day.  Fed meddling still exists.
> >
> > Max, in the beginning it was not about "energy savings"  It was about
> > more afternoon time on Wed afternoon when the docs, shysters and
> > bankers closed early to go "hunt golf eggs in a pasture."  (Granny
> > Clampett)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  March 12,
> >> 2018 at 9:37 AM
> >> Here is what I think about every 6 months -- how can something so
> universally-hated persist?At some point in the past I suppose there was
> some semi-compelling reason to do it but there does not appear to be any
> such reason now.  The strongest one has something to do with kids going to
> school, but that seems pretty lame.  It appears there is no energy savings
> to speak of, maybe even more is being used.
> >>
> >> I spent my first 20some years in Indiana where the clocks did not
> change, but everyone else did.  So in the summer we were in Central
> Daylight Time zone, an hour behind the east coast, but in the winter we
> were Eastern Standard Time zone, an hour ahead of Central Standard.  The
> only real issue was TV shows were on an hour earlier in the summer.  I
> think a coupla counties near Louisville and Chicago did whatever those
> cities did, so they changed their clocks mostly so people who worked there
> were not constantly in some weird situation.  It mattered not to us as the
> clocks and the sun just kept doing their things and there was a smooth
> transition among the seasons.
> >>
> >> So it seems the states control whether clocks change, I don't think the
> federal gubmint has anything to do with it.  Next time I find myself
> amongst any of our elected fools at the state level I need to ax this
> question.
> >>
> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I propose that all the daylight that has been "saved" by "daylight savings
time" now be released into a Yuuge Photo-voltaic power plant
and converted to use in the electric grid to power Andrews electric car for
free.

After decades of "saving daylight", I'm sure some of the huge warehouse of
stored saved daylight could be converted to warm up the iced highways and
eliminate the need for salt.

[sarcasm off]

"Government intelligence in action"  Who can invent a better oxymoron?

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That was part of it, and little to do with the Wednesday afternoon fun on
> the links of lawyers and bankers (my father was a banker, so I have direct
> experience in this area.)
>
> Much of DST has to do with agrarian societies, the reasoning being that
> longer light into the evenings gives farmers more time to work the fields.
> While I can’t address all of this directly, I can tell you that based on
> personal experience as a young man, farmers did use DST to their advantage
> and it did help.  When harvesting or detassling corn, being able to start
> later in the day and work later made a difference as the condensation or
> morning dew on the crops made it much harder to harvest or handle the
> plants.  Dairy farmers, however, don’t like it, because cows are sensitive
> to time and changing their milking schedules can cause some serious affects
> on production.  We heard about this a lot in Wisconsin.
>
> Personally, I would like to see it gone.  I know when we were growing up
> in Indiana it was  PITA because different parts of the state were on
> different times….
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The feds meddled in the 70s.  Jimmay cahtah's "energy saving" program
> probably.  AZ and HI opted out, but everyone else had to begin and end
> stupid time on the same day.  Fed meddling still exists.
> >
> > Max, in the beginning it was not about "energy savings"  It was about
> more afternoon time on Wed afternoon when the docs, shysters and bankers
> closed early to go "hunt golf eggs in a pasture."  (Granny Clampett)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >> March 12, 2018 at 9:37 AM
> >> Here is what I think about every 6 months -- how can something so
> universally-hated persist?At some point in the past I suppose there was
> some semi-compelling reason to do it but there does not appear to be any
> such reason now.  The strongest one has something to do with kids going to
> school, but that seems pretty lame.  It appears there is no energy savings
> to speak of, maybe even more is being used.
> >>
> >> I spent my first 20some years in Indiana where the clocks did not
> change, but everyone else did.  So in the summer we were in Central
> Daylight Time zone, an hour behind the east coast, but in the winter we
> were Eastern Standard Time zone, an hour ahead of Central Standard.  The
> only real issue was TV shows were on an hour earlier in the summer.  I
> think a coupla counties near Louisville and Chicago did whatever those
> cities did, so they changed their clocks mostly so people who worked there
> were not constantly in some weird situation.  It mattered not to us as the
> clocks and the sun just kept doing their things and there was a smooth
> transition among the seasons.
> >>
> >> So it seems the states control whether clocks change, I don't think the
> federal gubmint has anything to do with it.  Next time I find myself
> amongst any of our elected fools at the state level I need to ax this
> question.
> >>
> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That was part of it, and little to do with the Wednesday afternoon fun on the 
links of lawyers and bankers (my father was a banker, so I have direct 
experience in this area.)

Much of DST has to do with agrarian societies, the reasoning being that longer 
light into the evenings gives farmers more time to work the fields.  While I 
can’t address all of this directly, I can tell you that based on personal 
experience as a young man, farmers did use DST to their advantage and it did 
help.  When harvesting or detassling corn, being able to start later in the day 
and work later made a difference as the condensation or morning dew on the 
crops made it much harder to harvest or handle the plants.  Dairy farmers, 
however, don’t like it, because cows are sensitive to time and changing their 
milking schedules can cause some serious affects on production.  We heard about 
this a lot in Wisconsin.

Personally, I would like to see it gone.  I know when we were growing up in 
Indiana it was  PITA because different parts of the state were on different 
times….

-D

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The feds meddled in the 70s.  Jimmay cahtah's "energy saving" program 
> probably.  AZ and HI opted out, but everyone else had to begin and end stupid 
> time on the same day.  Fed meddling still exists.
> 
> Max, in the beginning it was not about "energy savings"  It was about more 
> afternoon time on Wed afternoon when the docs, shysters and bankers closed 
> early to go "hunt golf eggs in a pasture."  (Granny Clampett)
> 
> 
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> March 12, 2018 at 9:37 AM
>> Here is what I think about every 6 months -- how can something so 
>> universally-hated persist?At some point in the past I suppose there was 
>> some semi-compelling reason to do it but there does not appear to be any 
>> such reason now.  The strongest one has something to do with kids going to 
>> school, but that seems pretty lame.  It appears there is no energy savings 
>> to speak of, maybe even more is being used.
>> 
>> I spent my first 20some years in Indiana where the clocks did not change, 
>> but everyone else did.  So in the summer we were in Central Daylight Time 
>> zone, an hour behind the east coast, but in the winter we were Eastern 
>> Standard Time zone, an hour ahead of Central Standard.  The only real issue 
>> was TV shows were on an hour earlier in the summer.  I think a coupla 
>> counties near Louisville and Chicago did whatever those cities did, so they 
>> changed their clocks mostly so people who worked there were not constantly 
>> in some weird situation.  It mattered not to us as the clocks and the sun 
>> just kept doing their things and there was a smooth transition among the 
>> seasons.
>> 
>> So it seems the states control whether clocks change, I don't think the 
>> federal gubmint has anything to do with it.  Next time I find myself amongst 
>> any of our elected fools at the state level I need to ax this question.
>> 
>> --FT


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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Avid (my employer) Media Composer (video editing application) is sensitive to 
time, if it finds files written more than 5min in the future it ignores them 
and video won't play. In 2006 they changed the date for DST to end. Microsoft 
and Apple both had patches but in any given newsroom about half the systems 
would be patched so on the appointed day half the systems fell back and half 
didn't, hilarity ensued as the patched systems now wouldn't play any media the 
new systems wrote...
So yeah I'm in favor of ending DST...

Curt

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  On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   The feds meddled in the 70s.  Jimmay 
cahtah's "energy saving" program 
probably.  AZ and HI opted out, but everyone else had to begin and end 
stupid time on the same day.  Fed meddling still exists.

Max, in the beginning it was not about "energy savings"  It was about 
more afternoon time on Wed afternoon when the docs, shysters and bankers 
closed early to go "hunt golf eggs in a pasture."  (Granny Clampett)



> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> March 12, 2018 at 9:37 AM
> Here is what I think about every 6 months -- how can something so 
> universally-hated persist?    At some point in the past I suppose 
> there was some semi-compelling reason to do it but there does not 
> appear to be any such reason now.  The strongest one has something to 
> do with kids going to school, but that seems pretty lame.  It appears 
> there is no energy savings to speak of, maybe even more is being used.
>
> I spent my first 20some years in Indiana where the clocks did not 
> change, but everyone else did.  So in the summer we were in Central 
> Daylight Time zone, an hour behind the east coast, but in the winter 
> we were Eastern Standard Time zone, an hour ahead of Central 
> Standard.  The only real issue was TV shows were on an hour earlier in 
> the summer.  I think a coupla counties near Louisville and Chicago did 
> whatever those cities did, so they changed their clocks mostly so 
> people who worked there were not constantly in some weird situation.  
> It mattered not to us as the clocks and the sun just kept doing their 
> things and there was a smooth transition among the seasons.
>
> So it seems the states control whether clocks change, I don't think 
> the federal gubmint has anything to do with it.  Next time I find 
> myself amongst any of our elected fools at the state level I need to 
> ax this question.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> March 12, 2018 at 8:00 AM
> DST needs to end. Self-imposed pain that doesn't produce the promised
> energy savings.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Did the temporal rift over the weekend consume the sun?
>
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> We are in a rare solar event this weekend. The rain will return soon, 
> so I am scrambling to pack lots of little tasks while I can.
>
> Allen seems to not have parking brakes. I thought they were there, but 
> the pedal goes to the floor and the wheels roll with no resistance, so 
> I tried to adjust the shoes. No impact spinning the star. Up on 
> driver/down for passenger. Maybe it will visit a shop instead of 
> spending many hours trying to make the ($**!!*%#%) wee spring to 
> actually hook up.
>
> That led to hooking the working antenna cable to the head unit. 
> Current wire was snipped off to splice into an chinese aftermarket 
> antenna. Had to pull up carpet, a seat, and dig into the console. May 
> as well hook the speakers directly to the radio instead of trying to 
> make the fader work right. Noise was only coming out the driver rear 
> speaker with this unit. Now I can control media from a touch screen, 
> plucked from PnP for $10, over installing one of the vintage Grand 
> Prix that would fetch multiples of that investment flogged on Fleabay. 
> I am not trying to make this a show car.
>
> While wrestling the driver seat, the power wires to the motors had to 
> be reseated, as they fell out somehow. The MBTex seat I installed, 
> came minus the back, so, I needed to make holes to fit the OE panel. 
> That done, I had to liberate the seatbelt dock, as it had become 
> h

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That would be the tuning aspect, somehow to generate an out-of-phase 
signal.  More research needed!


--FT


On 3/12/18 11:55 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I can't think of a way the headphones could sample the "noise", much less 
generate an out-of-phase countering signal.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:41 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling headphones could work to 
generate anti-tinnitus sounds.  One would have to tune them to individual 
circumstances but the question is if the noise would cancel out whatever the 
nerves or brain are doing, or if it would just add to the overall sensation of 
more noise.

--FT


On 3/12/18 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around industrial 
engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a nuisance, but not 
debilitating, fortunately.

One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay him out.  I 
consider myself lucky.

-D



On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

Andrew says:


I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is
not ambient but exists >inside my head

Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT televisions. 
Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency. Sounds like a cricket 
chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many decades.

It never goes away. Ever.

At least you're not hearing voices in your head...

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I can't think of a way the headphones could sample the "noise", much less 
generate an out-of-phase countering signal.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:41 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling headphones could work to 
generate anti-tinnitus sounds.  One would have to tune them to individual 
circumstances but the question is if the noise would cancel out whatever the 
nerves or brain are doing, or if it would just add to the overall sensation of 
more noise.

--FT


On 3/12/18 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around 
> industrial engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a nuisance, 
> but not debilitating, fortunately.
>
> One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay him out.  
> I consider myself lucky.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Andrew says:
>>
>>> I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is 
>>> not ambient but exists >inside my head
>> Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT televisions. 
>> Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency. Sounds like a 
>> cricket chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many decades.
>>
>> It never goes away. Ever.
>>
>> At least you're not hearing voices in your head...
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Third Floydsby sez:

>I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling >headphones could work
>to generate anti-tinnitus sounds.

There are masking hearing aids. That's about it.


Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The feds meddled in the 70s.  Jimmay cahtah's "energy saving" program 
probably.  AZ and HI opted out, but everyone else had to begin and end 
stupid time on the same day.  Fed meddling still exists.


Max, in the beginning it was not about "energy savings"  It was about 
more afternoon time on Wed afternoon when the docs, shysters and bankers 
closed early to go "hunt golf eggs in a pasture."  (Granny Clampett)





Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
March 12, 2018 at 9:37 AM
Here is what I think about every 6 months -- how can something so 
universally-hated persist?At some point in the past I suppose 
there was some semi-compelling reason to do it but there does not 
appear to be any such reason now.  The strongest one has something to 
do with kids going to school, but that seems pretty lame.  It appears 
there is no energy savings to speak of, maybe even more is being used.


I spent my first 20some years in Indiana where the clocks did not 
change, but everyone else did.  So in the summer we were in Central 
Daylight Time zone, an hour behind the east coast, but in the winter 
we were Eastern Standard Time zone, an hour ahead of Central 
Standard.  The only real issue was TV shows were on an hour earlier in 
the summer.  I think a coupla counties near Louisville and Chicago did 
whatever those cities did, so they changed their clocks mostly so 
people who worked there were not constantly in some weird situation.  
It mattered not to us as the clocks and the sun just kept doing their 
things and there was a smooth transition among the seasons.


So it seems the states control whether clocks change, I don't think 
the federal gubmint has anything to do with it.  Next time I find 
myself amongst any of our elected fools at the state level I need to 
ax this question.


--FT




Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
March 12, 2018 at 8:00 AM
DST needs to end. Self-imposed pain that doesn't produce the promised
energy savings.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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March 12, 2018 at 7:14 AM
Did the temporal rift over the weekend consume the sun?

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March 11, 2018 at 11:08 PM
We are in a rare solar event this weekend. The rain will return soon, 
so I am scrambling to pack lots of little tasks while I can.


Allen seems to not have parking brakes. I thought they were there, but 
the pedal goes to the floor and the wheels roll with no resistance, so 
I tried to adjust the shoes. No impact spinning the star. Up on 
driver/down for passenger. Maybe it will visit a shop instead of 
spending many hours trying to make the ($**!!*%#%) wee spring to 
actually hook up.


That led to hooking the working antenna cable to the head unit. 
Current wire was snipped off to splice into an chinese aftermarket 
antenna. Had to pull up carpet, a seat, and dig into the console. May 
as well hook the speakers directly to the radio instead of trying to 
make the fader work right. Noise was only coming out the driver rear 
speaker with this unit. Now I can control media from a touch screen, 
plucked from PnP for $10, over installing one of the vintage Grand 
Prix that would fetch multiples of that investment flogged on Fleabay. 
I am not trying to make this a show car.


While wrestling the driver seat, the power wires to the motors had to 
be reseated, as they fell out somehow. The MBTex seat I installed, 
came minus the back, so, I needed to make holes to fit the OE panel. 
That done, I had to liberate the seatbelt dock, as it had become 
high-centered on a bolt and would not allow the seat to be re-installed.


I popped the trunk and tested the vacuum pump. No vac holding, and 
pump would not power. Will need to trace where I have a hole, so will 
not hook the replacement pump to power. Which somehow flowed to under 
the hood looking at the EGR. That holds vacuum, but will not open. I 
pulled out and gave it a cleaning. Valve opened by digital 
manipulation, but not vacuum. Stuff It! Put it back, at least it is 
clean now.


A side trip to the hardware store to secure some Schedule 40 to build 
a few stands so I can refinish the Bundt wheels I pulled from PnP. 
Many $$$ later I had a square base with a set of posts along the 
middle side arms rising to an apex to hold the rims by the centers of 
the teepee. A fast wipe do

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Time to see your trusty ENT.

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> On Mar 12, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote:
>> At least you're not hearing voices in your head...
> 
> That's not normal?
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

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Rick wrote:
> At least you're not hearing voices in your head...

That's not normal?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling headphones could work 
to generate anti-tinnitus sounds.  One would have to tune them to 
individual circumstances but the question is if the noise would cancel 
out whatever the nerves or brain are doing, or if it would just add to 
the overall sensation of more noise.


--FT


On 3/12/18 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around industrial 
engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a nuisance, but not 
debilitating, fortunately.

One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay him out.  I 
consider myself lucky.

-D



On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

Andrew says:


I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is not ambient but 
exists >inside my head

Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT televisions. 
Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency. Sounds like a cricket 
chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many decades.

It never goes away. Ever.

At least you're not hearing voices in your head...

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out later

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Here is what I think about every 6 months -- how can something so 
universally-hated persist?    At some point in the past I suppose there 
was some semi-compelling reason to do it but there does not appear to be 
any such reason now.  The strongest one has something to do with kids 
going to school, but that seems pretty lame.  It appears there is no 
energy savings to speak of, maybe even more is being used.


I spent my first 20some years in Indiana where the clocks did not 
change, but everyone else did.  So in the summer we were in Central 
Daylight Time zone, an hour behind the east coast, but in the winter we 
were Eastern Standard Time zone, an hour ahead of Central Standard.  The 
only real issue was TV shows were on an hour earlier in the summer.  I 
think a coupla counties near Louisville and Chicago did whatever those 
cities did, so they changed their clocks mostly so people who worked 
there were not constantly in some weird situation.  It mattered not to 
us as the clocks and the sun just kept doing their things and there was 
a smooth transition among the seasons.


So it seems the states control whether clocks change, I don't think the 
federal gubmint has anything to do with it.  Next time I find myself 
amongst any of our elected fools at the state level I need to ax this 
question.


--FT


On 3/12/18 9:00 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

DST needs to end.  Self-imposed pain that doesn't produce the promised
energy savings.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Did the temporal rift over the weekend consume the sun?



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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Agreed,   End both DST and TDS


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
March 12, 2018 at 8:00 AM
DST needs to end. Self-imposed pain that doesn't produce the promised
energy savings.

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

DST needs to end.  Self-imposed pain that doesn't produce the promised
energy savings.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Did the temporal rift over the weekend consume the sun?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sun's out

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Did the temporal rift over the weekend consume the sun?

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 12:08 AM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We are in a rare solar event this weekend.  The rain will return soon, so I 
> am scrambling to pack lots of little tasks while I can.
> 
> Allen seems to not have parking brakes.  I thought they were there, but the 
> pedal goes to the floor and the wheels roll with no resistance, so I tried to 
> adjust the shoes.  No impact spinning the star.  Up on driver/down for 
> passenger.  Maybe it will visit a shop instead of spending many hours trying 
> to make the ($**!!*%#%) wee spring to actually hook up.  
> 
> That led to hooking the working antenna cable to the head unit.  Current wire 
> was snipped off to splice into an chinese aftermarket antenna.  Had to pull 
> up carpet, a seat, and dig into the console.  May as well hook the speakers 
> directly to the radio instead of trying to make the fader work right.  Noise 
> was only coming out the driver rear speaker with this unit.  Now I can 
> control media from a touch screen, plucked from PnP for $10, over installing 
> one of the vintage Grand Prix that would fetch multiples of that investment 
> flogged on Fleabay.  I am not trying to make this a show car.
> 
> While wrestling the driver seat, the power wires to the motors had to be 
> reseated, as they fell out somehow.  The MBTex seat I installed, came minus 
> the back, so, I needed to make holes to fit the OE panel.  That done, I had 
> to liberate the seatbelt dock, as it had become high-centered on a bolt and 
> would not allow the seat to be re-installed.  
> 
> I popped the trunk and tested the vacuum pump.  No vac holding, and pump 
> would not power.  Will need to trace where I have a hole, so will not hook 
> the replacement  pump to power.  Which somehow flowed to under the hood 
> looking at the EGR.  That holds vacuum, but will not open.  I pulled out and 
> gave it a cleaning.  Valve opened by digital manipulation, but not vacuum.  
> Stuff It!  Put it back, at least it is clean now.
> 
> A side trip to the hardware store to secure some Schedule 40 to build a few 
> stands so I can refinish the Bundt wheels I pulled from PnP.  Many $$$ later 
> I had a square base with a set of posts along the middle side arms rising to 
> an apex to hold the rims by the centers of the teepee.  A fast wipe down with 
> acetone (I cleaned, filled and sanded rims last month) and I was shaking the 
> rattle cans to prime, paint and clear the backsides of the Bundts.  It will 
> be warmer in the morrow, so I will tackle the fronts after lunch.
> 
> Last task this night was to blast the console switches with contact cleaner 
> on the off chance they needed it.  At least it could not hurt.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> clay 
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around industrial 
engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a nuisance, but not 
debilitating, fortunately.

One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay him out.  I 
consider myself lucky.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Andrew says:
> 
>> I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is not 
>> ambient but exists >inside my head
> 
> Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT televisions. 
> Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency. Sounds like a 
> cricket chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many decades.
> 
> It never goes away. Ever.
> 
> At least you're not hearing voices in your head...
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andrew says:

>I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is not ambient 
>but exists >inside my head

Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT televisions. 
Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency. Sounds like a cricket 
chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many decades.

It never goes away. Ever.

At least you're not hearing voices in your head...

Rick

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