Re: [MBZ] LOWERED 1985 Mercedes 380sl -- Opiod abuse is rampant

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

When I took my SL in to get the new injectors installed, my indy was telling me 
about how he saw a car Just Like Mine sell on BAT for something around $65k.  I 
had to point out that, while it looked just like mine, I have 200k more on my 
clock.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most of these things are bringing nearly three times what we are asking it is 
> a fair car and a fair price.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/lowered-1985-mercedes-380sl/6552595108.html
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Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Switches were fully functional prior to putting the fresh motor in.  Then none 
of the switches would function.  I cleaned them, and even my spares, just for 
good measure.  Now only the driver side rear responds to switch from the 
console, while the rear switches do provide window action.  

I remain confused


clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:59 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Remove door skin.  See that both motor terminals have +12V on them
> normally, measured to the door frame metal.  Use a test lamp, that puts a
> load on it to make sure it's actually got current ability and not just
> leakage.  One or the other terminal is grounded to make the motor go,
> depending on direction.  If you don't have +12V, you have a problem.  99%
> of the time it's dirty switches.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Might be, but why would the ground fail now, while it worked the day I 
installed the fresh motor?

clay 

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:05 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ground under the console?
> 
> clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> A few weeks ago I put a new motor in the front passenger regulator.  Prior 
>> to this, all the other windows worked fine with the front controls.  The 
>> rear windows respond to the door switches, but not console buttons, except 
>> for the driver rear.  The front windows no longer go down or up, and rear 
>> pass window does not respond to front buttons.
>> 
>> I checked the fuses and replaced, though they look fine.  Copper/brass 
>> fuses, not the aluminum.  Is there an ice cube relay that is needing 
>> attention?
>> 
>> 
>> clay

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[MBZ] tornado time

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Just had a tornado warning this afternoon.  One sighted about 10-15 
miles away.SWMBO came out to warn me.  I said I heard it on the 
radio and heard the sireens.  I kept on cleaning up stuff.  The weather 
was not tornado-like in our locale.  Made me think of this graphic.



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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

My great uncle, who was about 50 years older than me, could outwalk me 
when he was 85.  He lived to be 99.  A cousin of my dad's just kicked 
off at 99!   I can only hope I make it that far...


archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Heh! Heh! I'll be 89 in July. When I get to be 99, then I might brag a little 
bit. Actually it's not unusual to live to be over 100 nowadays, and that's 
often people who never expected it. It seems to be modern medicine and easier 
lives than our forebears lived which plays a big role.
Gerry




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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Heh! Heh! I'll be 89 in July. When I get to be 99, then I might brag a little 
bit. Actually it's not unusual to live to be over 100 nowadays, and that's 
often people who never expected it. It seems to be modern medicine and easier 
lives than our forebears lived which plays a big role.
Gerry
~
On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:27:45 +
Rick Knoble via Mercedes  wrote:

> Gerry sez:
> 
> >We Geezers
> 
> How old are you now?
> 
> If I remember correctly, you are about 87-88?
> 
> Our very own Gerry-atric Benz-a-holic!
> 
> Rick
> Who will be quite happy to be breathing, let alone working on anything in his 
> eighty's.  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] User: Quahog?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Max
You might mean me- I was never user Quahog but used to have a spoof
signature "Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co. Our clams,are fresh our
cars,are vintage". Anyway I don't have any OM 602 parts. Wonder if Fred
does? If not I could put you in touch with my Indy who has,his own PnP but
would charge for pulling &  shipping.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Apr 14, 2018 9:32 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

In search of OM602 turbo or head?  I think you're still on Okie Benz?
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Gerry sez:

>We Geezers

How old are you now?

If I remember correctly, you are about 87-88?

Our very own Gerry-atric Benz-a-holic!

Rick
Who will be quite happy to be breathing, let alone working on anything in his 
eighty's.  



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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, those Hondys are bad news. Now, if they had bought a Tojo they could have 
relaxed and the Tojo would have driven them home. (Just kidding!) 

We Geezers call them Tojo's because General Tojo was the infamous top Japanese 
general during WW-2 that everybody hated.

After driving the Tojo 25K miles just around the county; (I've only made 2 
trips on the interstate which were sort of hair raising in the middle lane of 
I-75 South when surrounded by big cars and trucks doing 80); it's just now 
needed it's first repair.

The "Red Light of Death" (check engine light) came on, and testing identified 
it as the 12 volt electric pump that drives the inverter cooling system.

The inverter(s) change the 400+ traction battery volts to 12 volts for running 
the computers, lights, and all the other geejaws that need 12 volts which 
include charging the 12 volt battery; as well as changing the 400+ volts to 
140+ volts for running the air conditioning compressor, so it needs it's own 
cooling system.
In order to change the 12 volt pump, the left front fender; which is made of 
tin that's not much thicker than a tin can, has to be loosened and the left 
headlight assembly removed. Then it's a simple job to disconnect the hoses and 
install the new pump.
 
While the Tojo has been down, I've been driving the 240D. I was thinking about 
selling the diesels and going "modern", but getting into the innards of the Tojo
changed my mind. There just isn't much between you and a vehicle that hits you 
head on in the Tojo or nearly any of the these "modern" short-hooded cars.

Driving the 240D is so much more relaxing than driving the Tojo, I might sell 
the Tojo and pretty much rebuild the 240D which needs the usual upgrades of a 
35 year old Mercedes; rubber all around, various suspension parts, slow leaking 
A/C lines, etc. The 190K engine still runs like a new one, as does the 
stickshift transmission. Amazingly the rear axle boots are still in good shape.

Anyway, back to the shop and the Tojo which still needs 3 quarts of coolant and 
re-assembly. This car has more nuts and bolts than an old Erector set.

Gerry

~~~
On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:00:48 -0500
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

> This does not have to do with a Smart (TM) car.
> 
> Some friends just got home form FL, driving a 2017 Hondog pitot with all 
> the latest electronic "smart" crap. "lane control"  "Driver assist" and 
> a slew of other "marketing phrases" are built into the POS.They got 
> into schnee for the last 35 or so miles, (out of 1500 or so) and shortly 
> after the "Driver assist" electronics went bizerk.   According to their 
> report, the thing was steering them all over the road (Interstate).   
> They slowed, got off, and continued the last 20  miles or so driving 
> slowly on gravel roads.   Apparently the electrons let them drive(or at 
> least steer) the veeehicle if they were slow enough.
> 
> There is no way (that they can find) to turn off this crap. When the 
> "elektronisch getrankt"  the thing can kill you.
> 
> It is quite possible that schnee or road slop froze over some sensor 
> that caused this behavior, but whatever the cause, the result is dangerous.
> 
> If you have newish vehicles, BEWARE!!UNSAFE AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS!   
> WHERE is Ralphie Nadir when you need him?
> 
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[MBZ] 400E Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Low key day today…

Put the new “Battery in Trunk” label on the new apparatus box cover.

Put the “Mercedes and AMG prefer Mobil1 Products” label on the fan shroud.

Replaced the lower windshield trim/seal on the right side, as the original was 
coming apart.  Replaced the seal on the left side part, too.

Installed a used OE window regulator on the left rear door, as the original one 
was toast.  Motor appeared to be dead as the cable was stuck and wouldn’t move. 
 I bet the thermal breaker in the motor is just open circuited, but I was too 
“meh” to bother taking it apart to check.

Installed a nice used center vent assembly to replace the original, which was 
self destructing and no longer working properly.

I still have some other things to do to the car, but they’re all major 
undertakings (motor mounts, headliner.)  Not sure I’ll take one of them on 
tomorrow.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The 3M film is sold here for both UV blocking and hurricane protection.  
Security is a secondary benefit for most.

I made the mistake of using 3/4” treated plywood last year, thinking that 
thicker is better and treated would weather better.

Wrong.

The stuff was so heavy it was unmanageable.  So now I’m using this:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Storm-Busters-48-in-x-96-in-Clear-Polycarbonate-Hurricane-Shutters/3041437

But cutting it to fit inside the window openings, as my windows are recessed 
into the walls about 4”-6”.

Then securing it with these:

https://tinyurl.com/ycm78fq9

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:56 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am looking at mylar film. More for security than anything; just to slow
> criminals down enough to take away the 10 min they typically use to grab
> stuff and run before anyone can respond to the alarm. Wondering if rates go
> down with film also.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 12:27 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Some 5/8" plywood and hangers are pretty cheap
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I am looking at mylar film. More for security than anything; just to slow
criminals down enough to take away the 10 min they typically use to grab
stuff and run before anyone can respond to the alarm. Wondering if rates go
down with film also.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 12:27 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Some 5/8" plywood and hangers are pretty cheap
>
>
> On 4/14/18 2:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I can’t imagine what it would cost to replace my windows, but I’m
> betting it would be far more than $13k. Probably cheaper to buy roll up
> hurricane shutters….
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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Apr 15 is the average date of last frost.

Thanks to OK Don and Rich for good ideas.  I will send those and any 
more that surface on to them.  Sounds like they should investigate a supabru


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On April 14, 2018 at 2:00 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


This does not have to do with a Smart (TM) car.

Some friends just got home form FL, driving a 2017 Hondog pitot with all
the latest electronic "smart" crap. "lane control"  "Driver assist" and
a slew of other "marketing phrases" are built into the POS.They got
into schnee for the last 35 or so miles


That's why most of my friends are coming home NEXT month.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Some 5/8" plywood and hangers are pretty cheap


On 4/14/18 2:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I can’t imagine what it would cost to replace my windows, but I’m betting it 
would be far more than $13k. Probably cheaper to buy roll up hurricane 
shutters….


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:41:18 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> You got the math, right, Craig.  I can’t imagine what it would cost to
>> replace my windows, but I’m betting it would be far more than $13k.
>> Probably cheaper to buy roll up hurricane shutters….
> 
> Would you get an insurance discount for shutters?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:41:18 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You got the math, right, Craig.  I can’t imagine what it would cost to
> replace my windows, but I’m betting it would be far more than $13k.
> Probably cheaper to buy roll up hurricane shutters….

Would you get an insurance discount for shutters?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, it is.  Any time you can bring your home up to current hurricane codes you 
realize significant savings.  Our house was built right around the time that 
existing codes were updated, so when we bought it we insisted and paid for 
what’s known as a “wind mitigation inspection”.  Essentially, it’s a very 
detailed inspection that verifies the nailing schedule that was used for the 
roof and tie down straps on the roof joists, along with the presence of metal 
clips placed between roof decking panels to make them act as a complete unit as 
opposed to individual sheets.

The new

You got the math, right, Craig.  I can’t imagine what it would cost to replace 
my windows, but I’m betting it would be far more than $13k. Probably cheaper to 
buy roll up hurricane shutters….

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Karl Wittnebel  wrote:
> 
> Cool. 40% off the total bill? That's huge.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

True, but consider that it would be isolated to the area where the fire was, 
and not the rest of the house.  Believe it or not, insurers give some hefty 
discounts for homes equipped with sprinkler systems.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 2:37 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The water damage would truly mess up the house in any event.
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

The water damage would truly mess up the house in any event.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-04-14  12:05 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Okie Benz 
 Cc: Dan Penoff  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 
Heads up OK listers! 
That sucks for them, for sure.

And the reason why the next house I build, if I ever do build again, will have 
sprinklers.  The initial cost to include them in the build isn’t that 
significant relative to the total cost of the home, and they reduce the 
insurance cost and almost totally assure the likelihood of survival of a fire 
with minimal damage.

We considered it on the house we built in WI.  At the time (1991) it would have 
added about $5k to the total cost of the house ($120k) but would have cut our 
insurance over 50%/year.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hard Red Wheat. and weads.
> 
> Speaking of OK fires - the hangar across the runway from us burned to the
> ground yesterday evening - several load explosions, huge plumes of black
> smoke - excitement all around. Surprisingly, the fire was contained to the
> hanger and a few vehicles parked nearby. Two country fire departments
> arrived and worked to contain it, then pulled what was left of the building
> down and tried to prevent further fires from erupting. They left around
> 8:30PM, then returned after midnight to check on it.
> No injuries - the owner was at work miles away when it started. No idea yet
> of the cause, etc. One less Bellanca in the fleet now - - -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellanca_Viking
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Lots of emotional appeal to wick lanterns and nothing beats a Coleman-style 
(gas or LP) lantern for raw light output.  But the new LED lanterns are hard to 
beat for convenience.  I have been using a couple of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011J9XXP4/
They come on instantly and give good light for general purposes.  I'm still on 
the original set of batteries and probably have 20+ hours of operation so far.  
My only complaint od the switch is hard to find in the dark.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, 
April 14, 2018 5:37 AM
> 
> What sort of lantern do you all recommend for residential use? We had a
> power failure here last night and the 6yo had no idea anything without
> batteries could be used for illumination. I am thinking of the wick type or
> railroad stuff with reflectors because they are beautiful, but perhaps should 
> go
> white gas mantle - we had a nice old coleman we used to use in riyadh for
> nightly power failures. But dont those use beryllium or some sort of toxic 
> crap
> on the mantles? Lehmans seem to have the wick type in various flavors.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Apparently a lot of other people do too, or the clickbait title is
> > doing its job. Its got more views than the video that preceded it.
> > -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On April 14, 2018 at 2:00 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This does not have to do with a Smart (TM) car.
> 
> Some friends just got home form FL, driving a 2017 Hondog pitot with all 
> the latest electronic "smart" crap. "lane control"  "Driver assist" and 
> a slew of other "marketing phrases" are built into the POS.They got 
> into schnee for the last 35 or so miles

That's why most of my friends are coming home NEXT month. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[OK Don via Mercedes]

You have to actively turn the nannies on in our Subaru - and can just as
easily turn them off . . .
I've never turned on the "lane assist" stuff.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This does not have to do with a Smart (TM) car.
>
> Some friends just got home form FL, driving a 2017 Hondog pitot with all
> the latest electronic "smart" crap. "lane control"  "Driver assist" and a
> slew of other "marketing phrases" are built into the POS.They got into
> schnee for the last 35 or so miles, (out of 1500 or so) and shortly after
> the "Driver assist" electronics went bizerk.   According to their report,
> the thing was steering them all over the road (Interstate).   They slowed,
> got off, and continued the last 20  miles or so driving slowly on gravel
> roads.   Apparently the electrons let them drive(or at least steer) the
> veeehicle if they were slow enough.
>
> There is no way (that they can find) to turn off this crap. When the
> "elektronisch getrankt"  the thing can kill you.
>
> It is quite possible that schnee or road slop froze over some sensor that
> caused this behavior, but whatever the cause, the result is dangerous.
>
> If you have newish vehicles, BEWARE!!UNSAFE AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS!   WHERE
> is Ralphie Nadir when you need him?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I wonder if that behavior is a result of the automotive equivalent of the BSOD 
and the car needs a hard reboot. Not that having that happen is in any way 
acceptable but that might be how to get the nannies back in line. 

They also need to get to the stealer and document the problem and get all the 
info in the system then get copies of the service and send it all to NHTSA and 
the newspaper and tv outlets. It could get picked up on the wire and get some 
exposure. 

--R
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> On Apr 14, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This does not have to do with a Smart (TM) car.
> 
> Some friends just got home form FL, driving a 2017 Hondog pitot with all the 
> latest electronic "smart" crap. "lane control"  "Driver assist" and a slew of 
> other "marketing phrases" are built into the POS.They got into schnee for 
> the last 35 or so miles, (out of 1500 or so) and shortly after the "Driver 
> assist" electronics went bizerk.   According to their report, the thing was 
> steering them all over the road (Interstate).   They slowed, got off, and 
> continued the last 20  miles or so driving slowly on gravel roads.   
> Apparently the electrons let them drive(or at least steer) the veeehicle if 
> they were slow enough.
> 
> There is no way (that they can find) to turn off this crap. When the 
> "elektronisch getrankt"  the thing can kill you.
> 
> It is quite possible that schnee or road slop froze over some sensor that 
> caused this behavior, but whatever the cause, the result is dangerous.
> 
> If you have newish vehicles, BEWARE!!UNSAFE AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS!   WHERE is 
> Ralphie Nadir when you need him?
> 
> 
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[MBZ] "smart" cars (Not Smart)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

This does not have to do with a Smart (TM) car.

Some friends just got home form FL, driving a 2017 Hondog pitot with all 
the latest electronic "smart" crap. "lane control"  "Driver assist" and 
a slew of other "marketing phrases" are built into the POS.They got 
into schnee for the last 35 or so miles, (out of 1500 or so) and shortly 
after the "Driver assist" electronics went bizerk.   According to their 
report, the thing was steering them all over the road (Interstate).   
They slowed, got off, and continued the last 20  miles or so driving 
slowly on gravel roads.   Apparently the electrons let them drive(or at 
least steer) the veeehicle if they were slow enough.


There is no way (that they can find) to turn off this crap. When the 
"elektronisch getrankt"  the thing can kill you.


It is quite possible that schnee or road slop froze over some sensor 
that caused this behavior, but whatever the cause, the result is dangerous.


If you have newish vehicles, BEWARE!!UNSAFE AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS!   
WHERE is Ralphie Nadir when you need him?




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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

St Paul Mercantile is a good choice, nice folks.
A good GPA shouldn't need to be pumped more than once every 5 or so hours...
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote: 
  Oh ok tig tungstens have a bunch of those weird metals. But I dont want to 
pump all the time and these are intermittent indoor use. So I will go with 
wicks.
I would like some brass wick kosmos lamps with Sans Rival chimneys. Anyone know 
a good source?
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 5:05 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:

For occasional use like that a wicked lantern is probably the way to go. A 
round wick lamp will throw way more light, something like a B&H or Rayo can be 
had on eBay pretty cheap. Alladin lamps are the Cadillac of wick lamps and 
throw the best light.A flat wick lantern like a Dietz will work but provides 
pretty poor light as does a deadflame lamp. I find the "lamp oil" to smell like 
burning crayons and turn solid if temps approach freezing, cut with some low 
odor kerosene it's much better all around.

Whitegas lanterns tend to smell, I don't like them for indoor use. In any case 
I think you're thinking of thorium which is not so much toxic as radioactive. 
The fear of radioactivity is mostly unfounded, don't eat mantles. Thorium was 
replaced with ytrium which, while not radioactive is quite toxic and doesn't 
throw terrific light.
For camping a gas pressure appliance is the way to go, a flat wick lantern will 
give something like 40 candle power, a small Coleman lantern is more like 200...

Curt

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  On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:37 AM, Karl Wittnebel wrote: 
  What sort of lantern do you all recommend for residential use? We had a power 
failure here last night and the 6yo had no idea anything without batteries 
could be used for illumination. I am thinking of the wick type or railroad 
stuff with reflectors because they are beautiful, but perhaps should go white 
gas mantle - we had a nice old coleman we used to use in riyadh for nightly 
power failures. But dont those use beryllium or some sort of toxic crap on the 
mantles? Lehmans seem to have the wick type in various flavors.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

Apparently a lot of other people do too, or the clickbait title is doing its 
job. Its got more views than the video that preceded it.
-Curt


    On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 4:20:39 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 I liked this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFAsBNGWnE


clay 

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POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find 
> interesting:https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released the 
> other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some 
> cheap LED lanterns.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Oh ok tig tungstens have a bunch of those weird metals. But I dont want to
pump all the time and these are intermittent indoor use. So I will go with
wicks.

I would like some brass wick kosmos lamps with Sans Rival chimneys. Anyone
know a good source?

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 5:05 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> For occasional use like that a wicked lantern is probably the way to go. A
> round wick lamp will throw way more light, something like a B&H or Rayo can
> be had on eBay pretty cheap. Alladin lamps are the Cadillac of wick lamps
> and throw the best light.
> A flat wick lantern like a Dietz will work but provides pretty poor light
> as does a deadflame lamp. I find the "lamp oil" to smell like burning
> crayons and turn solid if temps approach freezing, cut with some low odor
> kerosene it's much better all around.
>
>
> Whitegas lanterns tend to smell, I don't like them for indoor use. In any
> case I think you're thinking of thorium which is not so much toxic as
> radioactive. The fear of radioactivity is mostly unfounded, don't eat
> mantles. Thorium was replaced with ytrium which, while not radioactive is
> quite toxic and doesn't throw terrific light.
>
> For camping a gas pressure appliance is the way to go, a flat wick lantern
> will give something like 40 candle power, a small Coleman lantern is more
> like 200...
>
>
> Curt
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:37 AM, Karl Wittnebel
>  wrote:
> What sort of lantern do you all recommend for residential use? We had a
> power failure here last night and the 6yo had no idea anything without
> batteries could be used for illumination. I am thinking of the wick type or
> railroad stuff with reflectors because they are beautiful, but perhaps
> should go white gas mantle - we had a nice old coleman we used to use in
> riyadh for nightly power failures. But dont those use beryllium or some
> sort of toxic crap on the mantles? Lehmans seem to have the wick type in
> various flavors.
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Apparently a lot of other people do too, or the clickbait title is doing
> its job. Its got more views than the video that preceded it.
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 4:20:39 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I liked this one
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFAsBNGWnE
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find interesting:
> https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> > The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I
> released the other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> > I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some
> cheap LED lanterns.
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Cool. 40% off the total bill? That's huge.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 3:48 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> A month or so ago we were having a get together for the mother in law’s
> 80th birthday.  Wife is leaning back on the couch in the family room and
> notices a stain on the ceiling  Dang. Roof leak.
>
> We had just had some really violent storms blow through, so we figured
> they were the cause of the leak.  Our house is just about 20 years old, so
> we knew it was close to new roof time.  We were hoping it would be another
> year or two before we had to replace the roof, but this looked like it was
> going to force the matter. Darn.
>
> Understand that there is quite the cottage industry using software that
> closely monitors the NOAA weather radars and will use GIS to extract exact
> addresses under storm tracks and then send a compiled list of those
> addresses to subscribers (roofing companies.) These fine folks take that
> information and canvass the neighborhoods in an attempt to sell new roofs
> or repairs using the homeowner’s insurer.  Basically, they inspect the
> roof, manage the claim with the insurer, and have the homeowner sign an AOB
> (assignment of benefits) so that they are paid directly for the work.  This
> isn’t a bad thing necessarily, however, you’re now locked in to this
> contractor, like it or not, and they’ll get the proceeds of your insurance
> payout regardless of what the work costs.
>
> Anyway, I had avoided these people despite their presence in our area.  I
> checked with a couple of friends who had their roofs done recently and got
> referrals for a couple of contractors.
>
> One contractor came a few weeks ago, spent about 30 minutes on the roof,
> gave me a quote and said that in their opinion there was little to nothing
> to warrant an insurance claim.  Bummer.
>
> A day later I was talking to my insurance agent about getting an updated
> quote on my homeowner’s insurance once the roof was replaced.  By bringing
> the roof up to current code (hurricane requirements) I would get a
> significant discount in my homeowner’s insurance.  I mentioned the leak and
> that I was getting quotes for a replacement.  He told me I should file a
> claim with my insurer.  After all, what’s the worst thing that could
> happen, right?
>
> So the following Tuesday I was working from home and had already scheduled
> another roofing contractor to come out and give me an estimate.  The
> insurance adjuster said he could come the same day.  That works for me….
>
> They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.
>
> So they’re both on the roof for a good 45 minutes.  The insurance adjuster
> comes down and inspects the interior of the house, checks out the stain on
> the ceiling, etc.  He finishes up and leaves.
>
> The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15
> minutes of video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on the
> roof.  He tells me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time with the
> insurance adjuster showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk marks all
> over the roof, lots and lots of notes, this guy was super thorough.  He
> gives me a quote and heads out.
>
> Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance
> company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to
> believe it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over everything
> in such detail with the insurance adjustor.  You can guess who got the job.
>
> So in 2-3 weeks I’m going to have a new, hurricane rated roof at no out of
> pocket cost.  Nice.  And my insurance costs are going to drop about 40%,
> too.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:16:14 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If I got newer rated windows installed it would knock another 25% off,
> however, I’m not going to replace windows anytime soon as the costs are
> stupid and mine are in good shape.

In our house in Los Alamos, we had the original 1959 steel casement
windows. Leaky and drafty. Cold in the winter. We replaced them. You
are right, the costs are stupid!

I think our costs were around $13,000. If you, by your "another 25% off"
could save $250/year, it would take 52 years to pay off from reduced
insurance costs alone.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] LOWERED 1985 Mercedes 380sl -- Opiod abuse is rampant

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

And all it needs are a new top and new seat covers!

Greg

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Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:31 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] LOWERED 1985 Mercedes 380sl -- Opiod abuse is rampant

Most of these things are bringing nearly three times what we are asking it is a 
fair car and a fair price.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/lowered-1985-mercedes-380sl/6552595108.html

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--FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Our (new) roof will be shingles as the original is.  However, the nailing 
schedule along with the more modern roofing materials bumps the roof’s wind 
rating from 60 mph (I think) to over 130 mph.  While it’s not a metal roof, 
that’s pretty darned good for a shingle roof.

My current homeowner’s insurance is about $1700/year.  It will drop to at least 
$1000/year with the new roof, and possibly more.  If I got newer rated windows 
installed it would knock another 25% off, however, I’m not going to replace 
windows anytime soon as the costs are stupid and mine are in good shape.  I 
just bought a bunch of polystyrene sheets that will be cut to cover the windows 
in the event of a hurricane, so with those I should be just fine.  The total 
cost for the polystyrene was around $900, far less than the cost of new windows.

So in a little over a year’s time, I will have replaced the AC, hot water 
heater, and roof.  Darned near a new house.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 1:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We had a very similar experience several years ago - small stain on the
> ceiling, call the insurance company and found a metal roofing contractor -
> they both arrived the same day and went over not only the house roof, but
> all five roofs on the property. ended up replacing all of them except the
> hangar which got a layer of foam and paint on top of the steel. Our rates
> went down considerable due to the metal roof.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> A month or so ago we were having a get together for the mother in law’s
>> 80th birthday.  Wife is leaning back on the couch in the family room and
>> notices a stain on the ceiling  Dang. Roof leak.
>> 
>> We had just had some really violent storms blow through, so we figured
>> they were the cause of the leak.  Our house is just about 20 years old, so
>> we knew it was close to new roof time.  We were hoping it would be another
>> year or two before we had to replace the roof, but this looked like it was
>> going to force the matter. Darn.
>> 
>> Understand that there is quite the cottage industry using software that
>> closely monitors the NOAA weather radars and will use GIS to extract exact
>> addresses under storm tracks and then send a compiled list of those
>> addresses to subscribers (roofing companies.) These fine folks take that
>> information and canvass the neighborhoods in an attempt to sell new roofs
>> or repairs using the homeowner’s insurer.  Basically, they inspect the
>> roof, manage the claim with the insurer, and have the homeowner sign an AOB
>> (assignment of benefits) so that they are paid directly for the work.  This
>> isn’t a bad thing necessarily, however, you’re now locked in to this
>> contractor, like it or not, and they’ll get the proceeds of your insurance
>> payout regardless of what the work costs.
>> 
>> Anyway, I had avoided these people despite their presence in our area.  I
>> checked with a couple of friends who had their roofs done recently and got
>> referrals for a couple of contractors.
>> 
>> One contractor came a few weeks ago, spent about 30 minutes on the roof,
>> gave me a quote and said that in their opinion there was little to nothing
>> to warrant an insurance claim.  Bummer.
>> 
>> A day later I was talking to my insurance agent about getting an updated
>> quote on my homeowner’s insurance once the roof was replaced.  By bringing
>> the roof up to current code (hurricane requirements) I would get a
>> significant discount in my homeowner’s insurance.  I mentioned the leak and
>> that I was getting quotes for a replacement.  He told me I should file a
>> claim with my insurer.  After all, what’s the worst thing that could
>> happen, right?
>> 
>> So the following Tuesday I was working from home and had already scheduled
>> another roofing contractor to come out and give me an estimate.  The
>> insurance adjuster said he could come the same day.  That works for me….
>> 
>> They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.
>> 
>> So they’re both on the roof for a good 45 minutes.  The insurance adjuster
>> comes down and inspects the interior of the house, checks out the stain on
>> the ceiling, etc.  He finishes up and leaves.
>> 
>> The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15
>> minutes of video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on the
>> roof.  He tells me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time with the
>> insurance adjuster showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk marks all
>> over the roof, lots and lots of notes, this guy was super thorough.  He
>> gives me a quote and heads out.
>> 
>> Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance
>> company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to
>> believe it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over everything
>> in such detail with the insurance adjustor.  Yo

Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Winning with the InsCos is a SUPERWIN!

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:48 AM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

A month or so ago we were having a get together for the mother in law’s 80th 
birthday.  Wife is leaning back on the couch in the family room and notices a 
stain on the ceiling  Dang. Roof leak.

We had just had some really violent storms blow through, so we figured they 
were the cause of the leak.  Our house is just about 20 years old, so we knew 
it was close to new roof time.  We were hoping it would be another year or two 
before we had to replace the roof, but this looked like it was going to force 
the matter. Darn.

Understand that there is quite the cottage industry using software that closely 
monitors the NOAA weather radars and will use GIS to extract exact addresses 
under storm tracks and then send a compiled list of those addresses to 
subscribers (roofing companies.) These fine folks take that information and 
canvass the neighborhoods in an attempt to sell new roofs or repairs using the 
homeowner’s insurer.  Basically, they inspect the roof, manage the claim with 
the insurer, and have the homeowner sign an AOB (assignment of benefits) so 
that they are paid directly for the work.  This isn’t a bad thing necessarily, 
however, you’re now locked in to this contractor, like it or not, and they’ll 
get the proceeds of your insurance payout regardless of what the work costs.

Anyway, I had avoided these people despite their presence in our area.  I 
checked with a couple of friends who had their roofs done recently and got 
referrals for a couple of contractors.

One contractor came a few weeks ago, spent about 30 minutes on the roof, gave 
me a quote and said that in their opinion there was little to nothing to 
warrant an insurance claim.  Bummer.

A day later I was talking to my insurance agent about getting an updated quote 
on my homeowner’s insurance once the roof was replaced.  By bringing the roof 
up to current code (hurricane requirements) I would get a significant discount 
in my homeowner’s insurance.  I mentioned the leak and that I was getting 
quotes for a replacement.  He told me I should file a claim with my insurer.  
After all, what’s the worst thing that could happen, right?

So the following Tuesday I was working from home and had already scheduled 
another roofing contractor to come out and give me an estimate.  The insurance 
adjuster said he could come the same day.  That works for me….

They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.

So they’re both on the roof for a good 45 minutes.  The insurance adjuster 
comes down and inspects the interior of the house, checks out the stain on the 
ceiling, etc.  He finishes up and leaves.

The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15 minutes of 
video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on the roof.  He tells 
me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time with the insurance adjuster 
showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk marks all over the roof, lots and 
lots of notes, this guy was super thorough.  He gives me a quote and heads out.

Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance 
company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to believe 
it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over everything in such 
detail with the insurance adjustor.  You can guess who got the job.

So in 2-3 weeks I’m going to have a new, hurricane rated roof at no out of 
pocket cost.  Nice.  And my insurance costs are going to drop about 40%, too.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

We had a very similar experience several years ago - small stain on the
ceiling, call the insurance company and found a metal roofing contractor -
they both arrived the same day and went over not only the house roof, but
all five roofs on the property. ended up replacing all of them except the
hangar which got a layer of foam and paint on top of the steel. Our rates
went down considerable due to the metal roof.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A month or so ago we were having a get together for the mother in law’s
> 80th birthday.  Wife is leaning back on the couch in the family room and
> notices a stain on the ceiling  Dang. Roof leak.
>
> We had just had some really violent storms blow through, so we figured
> they were the cause of the leak.  Our house is just about 20 years old, so
> we knew it was close to new roof time.  We were hoping it would be another
> year or two before we had to replace the roof, but this looked like it was
> going to force the matter. Darn.
>
> Understand that there is quite the cottage industry using software that
> closely monitors the NOAA weather radars and will use GIS to extract exact
> addresses under storm tracks and then send a compiled list of those
> addresses to subscribers (roofing companies.) These fine folks take that
> information and canvass the neighborhoods in an attempt to sell new roofs
> or repairs using the homeowner’s insurer.  Basically, they inspect the
> roof, manage the claim with the insurer, and have the homeowner sign an AOB
> (assignment of benefits) so that they are paid directly for the work.  This
> isn’t a bad thing necessarily, however, you’re now locked in to this
> contractor, like it or not, and they’ll get the proceeds of your insurance
> payout regardless of what the work costs.
>
> Anyway, I had avoided these people despite their presence in our area.  I
> checked with a couple of friends who had their roofs done recently and got
> referrals for a couple of contractors.
>
> One contractor came a few weeks ago, spent about 30 minutes on the roof,
> gave me a quote and said that in their opinion there was little to nothing
> to warrant an insurance claim.  Bummer.
>
> A day later I was talking to my insurance agent about getting an updated
> quote on my homeowner’s insurance once the roof was replaced.  By bringing
> the roof up to current code (hurricane requirements) I would get a
> significant discount in my homeowner’s insurance.  I mentioned the leak and
> that I was getting quotes for a replacement.  He told me I should file a
> claim with my insurer.  After all, what’s the worst thing that could
> happen, right?
>
> So the following Tuesday I was working from home and had already scheduled
> another roofing contractor to come out and give me an estimate.  The
> insurance adjuster said he could come the same day.  That works for me….
>
> They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.
>
> So they’re both on the roof for a good 45 minutes.  The insurance adjuster
> comes down and inspects the interior of the house, checks out the stain on
> the ceiling, etc.  He finishes up and leaves.
>
> The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15
> minutes of video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on the
> roof.  He tells me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time with the
> insurance adjuster showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk marks all
> over the roof, lots and lots of notes, this guy was super thorough.  He
> gives me a quote and heads out.
>
> Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance
> company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to
> believe it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over everything
> in such detail with the insurance adjustor.  You can guess who got the job.
>
> So in 2-3 weeks I’m going to have a new, hurricane rated roof at no out of
> pocket cost.  Nice.  And my insurance costs are going to drop about 40%,
> too.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That sucks for them, for sure.

And the reason why the next house I build, if I ever do build again, will have 
sprinklers.  The initial cost to include them in the build isn’t that 
significant relative to the total cost of the home, and they reduce the 
insurance cost and almost totally assure the likelihood of survival of a fire 
with minimal damage.

We considered it on the house we built in WI.  At the time (1991) it would have 
added about $5k to the total cost of the house ($120k) but would have cut our 
insurance over 50%/year.

-D


> On Apr 14, 2018, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hard Red Wheat. and weads.
> 
> Speaking of OK fires - the hangar across the runway from us burned to the
> ground yesterday evening - several load explosions, huge plumes of black
> smoke - excitement all around. Surprisingly, the fire was contained to the
> hanger and a few vehicles parked nearby. Two country fire departments
> arrived and worked to contain it, then pulled what was left of the building
> down and tried to prevent further fires from erupting. They left around
> 8:30PM, then returned after midnight to check on it.
> No injuries - the owner was at work miles away when it started. No idea yet
> of the cause, etc. One less Bellanca in the fleet now - - -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellanca_Viking
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hard Red Wheat. and weads.

Speaking of OK fires - the hangar across the runway from us burned to the
ground yesterday evening - several load explosions, huge plumes of black
smoke - excitement all around. Surprisingly, the fire was contained to the
hanger and a few vehicles parked nearby. Two country fire departments
arrived and worked to contain it, then pulled what was left of the building
down and tried to prevent further fires from erupting. They left around
8:30PM, then returned after midnight to check on it.
No injuries - the owner was at work miles away when it started. No idea yet
of the cause, etc. One less Bellanca in the fleet now - - -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellanca_Viking

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What grows best in that red soil?
>
> On Apr 14, 2018 5:19 AM, "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
> > country.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April
> > 13,
> > > 2018
> > >
> > > An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> > > people to leave their homes.
> > >
> > > The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries
> have
> > > been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> > > Lehenbauer.
> > >
> > > Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles
> > from
> > > Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
> > >
> > > Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in
> > the
> > > state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports
> (Associated
> > > Press
> > > <
> > > https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b
> > 96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> > > >,
> > > April 13). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] Florida wins again in the crackhead contest

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's a Marsedees!

On Apr 14, 2018 10:35 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

THIS CAR IS HARD TO FIND!!  JUST ASK MY EX-WIFE AND THE SHERIFF!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-c36-am
g-1996/6559872034.html

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[MBZ] cheepcheep OBDII readers

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://deals.kinja.com/listen-to-what-your-car-is-telling-you-with-these-obd2-1825262458

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Re: [MBZ] LOWERED 1985 Mercedes 380sl -- Opiod abuse is rampant

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Must be so low that it's hard to get a good picture...
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On April 14, 2018 10:31:20 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Most of these things are bringing nearly three times what we are asking
>
>it is a fair car and a fair price.
>
>https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/lowered-1985-mercedes-380sl/6552595108.html
>
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[MBZ] Florida wins again in the crackhead contest

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

THIS CAR IS HARD TO FIND!!  JUST ASK MY EX-WIFE AND THE SHERIFF!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-c36-amg-1996/6559872034.html

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[MBZ] LOWERED 1985 Mercedes 380sl -- Opiod abuse is rampant

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Most of these things are bringing nearly three times what we are asking 
it is a fair car and a fair price.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/lowered-1985-mercedes-380sl/6552595108.html

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Re: [MBZ] super size shoo goo

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have never seen this mysterious substance "ShoeGoo" but I have seen 
similar stuff in the H/W store and Lowes


--FT


On 4/14/18 1:04 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I got 2 tubes of Henry #212  "super clear all purpose sealant" in 
caulking tubes after I watched roofer use something similar in place 
of chimney flashing.   The stuff looks and smells like shoo goo!  If 
you need lots, it is much cheaper in the caulking tube than the little 
bit sold as shoo goo.   However, if you only need a little, then the 
small tubes of shoo goo may be more economical.  I would guess the big 
tube may become unusable in a month or two as the solvent evaporates, 
despite your best efforts.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 06:48:20 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.

A Providential circumstance ...


> The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15
> minutes of video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on
> the roof.  He tells me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time
> with the insurance adjuster showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk
> marks all over the roof, lots and lots of notes, this guy was super
> thorough.  He gives me a quote and heads out.

I can see why he got the contract!


> Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance
> company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to
> believe it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over
> everything in such detail with the insurance adjustor.  You can guess
> who got the job.
> 
> So in 2-3 weeks I’m going to have a new, hurricane rated roof at no out
> of pocket cost.  Nice.  And my insurance costs are going to drop about
> 40%, too.

Praise the Lord!


Craig

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[MBZ] User: Quahog?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

In search of OM602 turbo or head?  I think you're still on Okie Benz?
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Rednecks?


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 Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-04-14  7:24 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers! 
What grows best in that red soil?

On Apr 14, 2018 5:19 AM, "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
> country.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April
> 13,
> > 2018
> >
> > An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> > people to leave their homes.
> >
> > The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> > been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> > Lehenbauer.
> >
> > Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles
> from
> > Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
> >
> > Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in
> the
> > state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> > Press
> > <
> > https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b
> 96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> > >,
> > April 13). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What grows best in that red soil?

On Apr 14, 2018 5:19 AM, "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
> country.
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April
> 13,
> > 2018
> >
> > An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> > people to leave their homes.
> >
> > The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> > been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> > Lehenbauer.
> >
> > Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles
> from
> > Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
> >
> > Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in
> the
> > state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> > Press
> > <
> > https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b
> 96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> > >,
> > April 13). *— CS*
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For occasional use like that a wicked lantern is probably the way to go. A 
round wick lamp will throw way more light, something like a B&H or Rayo can be 
had on eBay pretty cheap. Alladin lamps are the Cadillac of wick lamps and 
throw the best light.A flat wick lantern like a Dietz will work but provides 
pretty poor light as does a deadflame lamp. I find the "lamp oil" to smell like 
burning crayons and turn solid if temps approach freezing, cut with some low 
odor kerosene it's much better all around.

Whitegas lanterns tend to smell, I don't like them for indoor use. In any case 
I think you're thinking of thorium which is not so much toxic as radioactive. 
The fear of radioactivity is mostly unfounded, don't eat mantles. Thorium was 
replaced with ytrium which, while not radioactive is quite toxic and doesn't 
throw terrific light.
For camping a gas pressure appliance is the way to go, a flat wick lantern will 
give something like 40 candle power, a small Coleman lantern is more like 200...

Curt

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  On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 5:37 AM, Karl Wittnebel wrote: 
  What sort of lantern do you all recommend for residential use? We had a power 
failure here last night and the 6yo had no idea anything without batteries 
could be used for illumination. I am thinking of the wick type or railroad 
stuff with reflectors because they are beautiful, but perhaps should go white 
gas mantle - we had a nice old coleman we used to use in riyadh for nightly 
power failures. But dont those use beryllium or some sort of toxic crap on the 
mantles? Lehmans seem to have the wick type in various flavors.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

Apparently a lot of other people do too, or the clickbait title is doing its 
job. Its got more views than the video that preceded it.
-Curt


    On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 4:20:39 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 I liked this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFAsBNGWnE


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> 
> So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find 
> interesting:https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released the 
> other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some 
> cheap LED lanterns.
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> What sort of lantern do you all recommend for residential use?


An Aladdin kerosene mantle lamp.  Bright, dead quiet.  We have two.

Mantles used to use thorium oxide, which is mildly radioactive.  (I know I
stuffed one into a gamma counter I had once, and it definitely reacted.)
 Not sure what they use now, but they're not quite as bright and emit
somewhat greener light, if I'm remembering the old ones correctly.  I can't
find the gamma counter, my family might have tossed it, so I can't test
current mantles the same way.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

There are Aladdin kerosene lamps that are really nice for a silent light (and 
heat) source, and they have been made for decades in brass, nickel, crystal, 
and you can find them on eBay.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 14, 2018 5:37:06 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>What sort of lantern do you all recommend for residential use? We had a
>power failure here last night and the 6yo had no idea anything without
>batteries could be used for illumination. I am thinking of the wick
>type or
>railroad stuff with reflectors because they are beautiful, but perhaps
>should go white gas mantle - we had a nice old coleman we used to use
>in
>riyadh for nightly power failures. But dont those use beryllium or some
>sort of toxic crap on the mantles? Lehmans seem to have the wick type
>in
>various flavors.
>
>On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Apparently a lot of other people do too, or the clickbait title is
>doing
>> its job. Its got more views than the video that preceded it.
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 4:20:39 PM EDT, clay monroe via
>Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I liked this one
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFAsBNGWnE
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>>
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find
>interesting:
>> https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
>> > The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I
>> released the other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
>> > I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find
>some
>> cheap LED lanterns.
>> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Remove door skin.  See that both motor terminals have +12V on them
normally, measured to the door frame metal.  Use a test lamp, that puts a
load on it to make sure it's actually got current ability and not just
leakage.  One or the other terminal is grounded to make the motor go,
depending on direction.  If you don't have +12V, you have a problem.  99%
of the time it's dirty switches.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

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Nice!
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'95 E300

On April 14, 2018 6:48:20 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>A month or so ago we were having a get together for the mother in law’s
>80th birthday.  Wife is leaning back on the couch in the family room
>and notices a stain on the ceiling  Dang. Roof leak.
>
>We had just had some really violent storms blow through, so we figured
>they were the cause of the leak.  Our house is just about 20 years old,
>so we knew it was close to new roof time.  We were hoping it would be
>another year or two before we had to replace the roof, but this looked
>like it was going to force the matter. Darn.
>
>Understand that there is quite the cottage industry using software that
>closely monitors the NOAA weather radars and will use GIS to extract
>exact addresses under storm tracks and then send a compiled list of
>those addresses to subscribers (roofing companies.) These fine folks
>take that information and canvass the neighborhoods in an attempt to
>sell new roofs or repairs using the homeowner’s insurer.  Basically,
>they inspect the roof, manage the claim with the insurer, and have the
>homeowner sign an AOB (assignment of benefits) so that they are paid
>directly for the work.  This isn’t a bad thing necessarily, however,
>you’re now locked in to this contractor, like it or not, and they’ll
>get the proceeds of your insurance payout regardless of what the work
>costs.
>
>Anyway, I had avoided these people despite their presence in our area. 
>I checked with a couple of friends who had their roofs done recently
>and got referrals for a couple of contractors.
>
>One contractor came a few weeks ago, spent about 30 minutes on the
>roof, gave me a quote and said that in their opinion there was little
>to nothing to warrant an insurance claim.  Bummer.
>
>A day later I was talking to my insurance agent about getting an
>updated quote on my homeowner’s insurance once the roof was replaced. 
>By bringing the roof up to current code (hurricane requirements) I
>would get a significant discount in my homeowner’s insurance.  I
>mentioned the leak and that I was getting quotes for a replacement.  He
>told me I should file a claim with my insurer.  After all, what’s the
>worst thing that could happen, right?
>
>So the following Tuesday I was working from home and had already
>scheduled another roofing contractor to come out and give me an
>estimate.  The insurance adjuster said he could come the same day. 
>That works for me….
>
>They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.
>
>So they’re both on the roof for a good 45 minutes.  The insurance
>adjuster comes down and inspects the interior of the house, checks out
>the stain on the ceiling, etc.  He finishes up and leaves.
>
>The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15
>minutes of video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on
>the roof.  He tells me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time
>with the insurance adjuster showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk
>marks all over the roof, lots and lots of notes, this guy was super
>thorough.  He gives me a quote and heads out.
>
>Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance
>company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to
>believe it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over
>everything in such detail with the insurance adjustor.  You can guess
>who got the job.
>
>So in 2-3 weeks I’m going to have a new, hurricane rated roof at no out
>of pocket cost.  Nice.  And my insurance costs are going to drop about
>40%, too.
>
>-D
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[MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A month or so ago we were having a get together for the mother in law’s 80th 
birthday.  Wife is leaning back on the couch in the family room and notices a 
stain on the ceiling  Dang. Roof leak.

We had just had some really violent storms blow through, so we figured they 
were the cause of the leak.  Our house is just about 20 years old, so we knew 
it was close to new roof time.  We were hoping it would be another year or two 
before we had to replace the roof, but this looked like it was going to force 
the matter. Darn.

Understand that there is quite the cottage industry using software that closely 
monitors the NOAA weather radars and will use GIS to extract exact addresses 
under storm tracks and then send a compiled list of those addresses to 
subscribers (roofing companies.) These fine folks take that information and 
canvass the neighborhoods in an attempt to sell new roofs or repairs using the 
homeowner’s insurer.  Basically, they inspect the roof, manage the claim with 
the insurer, and have the homeowner sign an AOB (assignment of benefits) so 
that they are paid directly for the work.  This isn’t a bad thing necessarily, 
however, you’re now locked in to this contractor, like it or not, and they’ll 
get the proceeds of your insurance payout regardless of what the work costs.

Anyway, I had avoided these people despite their presence in our area.  I 
checked with a couple of friends who had their roofs done recently and got 
referrals for a couple of contractors.

One contractor came a few weeks ago, spent about 30 minutes on the roof, gave 
me a quote and said that in their opinion there was little to nothing to 
warrant an insurance claim.  Bummer.

A day later I was talking to my insurance agent about getting an updated quote 
on my homeowner’s insurance once the roof was replaced.  By bringing the roof 
up to current code (hurricane requirements) I would get a significant discount 
in my homeowner’s insurance.  I mentioned the leak and that I was getting 
quotes for a replacement.  He told me I should file a claim with my insurer.  
After all, what’s the worst thing that could happen, right?

So the following Tuesday I was working from home and had already scheduled 
another roofing contractor to come out and give me an estimate.  The insurance 
adjuster said he could come the same day.  That works for me….

They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.

So they’re both on the roof for a good 45 minutes.  The insurance adjuster 
comes down and inspects the interior of the house, checks out the stain on the 
ceiling, etc.  He finishes up and leaves.

The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15 minutes of 
video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on the roof.  He tells 
me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time with the insurance adjuster 
showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk marks all over the roof, lots and 
lots of notes, this guy was super thorough.  He gives me a quote and heads out.

Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance 
company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to believe 
it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over everything in such 
detail with the insurance adjustor.  You can guess who got the job.

So in 2-3 weeks I’m going to have a new, hurricane rated roof at no out of 
pocket cost.  Nice.  And my insurance costs are going to drop about 40%, too.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

What sort of lantern do you all recommend for residential use? We had a
power failure here last night and the 6yo had no idea anything without
batteries could be used for illumination. I am thinking of the wick type or
railroad stuff with reflectors because they are beautiful, but perhaps
should go white gas mantle - we had a nice old coleman we used to use in
riyadh for nightly power failures. But dont those use beryllium or some
sort of toxic crap on the mantles? Lehmans seem to have the wick type in
various flavors.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Apparently a lot of other people do too, or the clickbait title is doing
> its job. Its got more views than the video that preceded it.
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 4:20:39 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I liked this one
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFAsBNGWnE
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find interesting:
> https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> > The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I
> released the other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> > I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some
> cheap LED lanterns.
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Heads up OK listers!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

 I have been to Woodward. That is some pretty, but pretty rural, red soil
country.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 11:10 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Okla. blaze burns 120,000 acres, destroys homesPublished: Friday, April 13,
> 2018
>
> An Oklahoma wildfire has burned over 120,000 acres, forcing hundreds of
> people to leave their homes.
>
> The fire has destroyed multiple homes near Woodward, but no injuries have
> been reported, said Woodward County Emergency Management Director Matt
> Lehenbauer.
>
> Another fire has burned over 21,000 acres near Leedey, about 40 miles from
> Woodward, according to the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management.
>
> Low humidity and strong winds will create dangerous fire conditions in the
> state through Saturday, the National Weather Service reports (Associated
> Press
> <
> https://apnews.com/7e4e361ca4ac4e7e8f517a3defc02b96/Wildfires-burn-homes,-force-evacuations-in-Oklahoma
> >,
> April 13). *— CS*
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