Re: [MBZ] A case for manual shifting, for less (not more) automation, for engagement on the long road

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:47:58 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://www.overdriveonline.com/a-case-for-manual-shifting-for-less-not-more-automation-for-engagement-on-the-long-road/

The article on the New York Times linked from this page,

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/opinion/sunday/stick-shift-cars.html

is also interesting. Some quotes from the article:

 The fact that our brains so easily overdelegate this task to
 technology makes me worry about the tech industry’s aspirations
 — the fully autonomous everything. Could technology designed to
 save us from our lapses in attention actually make us even less
 attentive?


 An investigation revealed that the driver [of the Uber car which
 killed a pedestrian in Arizona] was watching Hulu until the moment
 of the crash. Because the human brain is impeccable in its ability
 to filter out extraneous information, this type of behavior should
 have been predicted. During normal driving, our brains are in a
 near-constant state of vigilance. But let someone or something do
 the driving for us and this vigilance easily fades.


Though a supercomputer will always surpass the human brain in terms
of pure speed, the brain is beyond complex in its ability to
reprioritize salient data inputs from multiple sources. If one input
becomes less relevant, our cognitive systems shift their attention
to the next most relevant one (which these days is usually our mobile
devices).

But there’s one feature available on some cars today that can
increase a driver’s vigilance instead of diminishing it — the
manual transmission.


Though research on the safety of manual transmissions is scant,
one study on the driving performance of teenage boys with A.D.H.D.
revealed that cars with manual transmissions resulted in safer,
more attentive driving than automatics. This suggests that the
cure for our attentional voids might be less technology, not more.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Network changes will affect your phone ...

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I have had a Moto G5 plus for over a year now. I am very satisfied with it, and 
it performs what I need it to do flawlessly. It is NOT loaded up with the 
bloatware you will find on offerings from Samsung et.al.  It is a little bigger 
than I would like, I cannot have it in my shirt pocket and button the pocket. I 
think the iPhone SE is a bit smaller, but then you have to contend with the 
infrastructure of Apple. 

Apple, Google (Android), Amazon (AWS), Facebook 
Yes, they all monitor you... For "marketing" purposes. 

Welcome to 1984 a few years late. 


Rick
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[MBZ] A case for manual shifting, for less (not more) automation, for engagement on the long road

[Craig via Mercedes]

https://www.overdriveonline.com/a-case-for-manual-shifting-for-less-not-more-automation-for-engagement-on-the-long-road/

A case for manual shifting, for less (not more) automation, for
engagement on the long road

The grounding of all produced Boeing 737 Max aircraft worldwide I imagine
gives some pause to the proselytizers of a glittery robotic future for
all manner of transportation. Or if it doesn’t, it well ought to.

(Continued on the web page)


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Network changes will affect your phone ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

I have been using Tracfone for a long time with a Nokia 2126 I got from
Mitch.

After much use and being dropped many times, the 2126 gave up the ghost
about a year ago. After talking with service on the phone for an
interminable time, I was able to activate an LG 236, which I also got from
Mitch.

Today I got a text message from Tracfone which said:

From 770-89
Tracfone: Network changes will affect
your phone. Go: yourphoneupgrade.com/tracfone

So, at that page I find I have to get a new phone and the choices I have
are:


LG REBEL™ 3 LTE® (L158VL) RECONDITIONED $  9.99
ALCATEL MYFLIP™ (A405DL)$  9.99
Samsung Galaxy J3 Luna Pro (S327VL) RECONDITIONED   $ 24.99
ZTE ZFIVE® C LTE (Z558VL)   $ 29.99
Alcatel TCL LX (A502DL) $ 29.99
ZTE Blade T2 (Z559DL)   $ 29.99
LG Premier Pro LTE (L413DL) $ 39.99
Samsung Galaxy J7 Sky Pro (S727VL) RECONDITIONED$ 39.99
LG Rebel 4 (L212VL) $ 59.99
moto e5 (XT1920DL)  $ 69.99
Samsung Galaxy J3 Orbit (S367VL)$ 79.99
Samsung Galaxy J7 Crown (S767VL)$ 99.99
iPhone 6s Space Grey 32GB   $124.99
Motorola Moto G6 (XT1925DL) $179.99
iPhone 6s Plus Rose Gold 32GB   $224.99
Samsung Galaxy S7 (G930VL)  $299.99
iPhone 7 Rose Gold 32GB $324.99 

Since the LG 236 is a flip-phone, I was drawn to the ALCATEL MYFLIP™
(A405DL). That phone, however, has bad reviews.

To say I am disappointed at this turn of events, having just learned the
LG 236, is an understatement.

My minutes balance of 16,433.11 minutes is valuable and I would rather
not lose it.

Any suggestions what to do?


Craig

P.S. I tend to be on the cheapskate side.

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Re: [MBZ] CL Is Dead

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I don't think they care. If they have 10 listings at $5 a piece, they make more 
money than if they have 10k listings for $0. Less server space is used too.

For our purposes, a CL type of service where the buyer pays a fee or 
subscription instead of the seller would be a viable business model. Any 
computer gurus want a billion dollar idea? There you go. You're welcome.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL Is Dead


Yep it’s going to implode. I don’t think it’s going to work out like they 
thought.

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Re: [MBZ] Car for Clay!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Tempting, but I got rid of all my pre 1980 parts, so would spiral into another 
hoarding venture to be able to keep it on the road.



> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Apr 18, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Here’s another beauty!
> 
> https://olympic.craigslist.org/cto/d/carlsborg-1972-mercedes-benz-280s/6865426101.html

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1082 SD - Allen
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: CL Is Dead

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Bag of hammers.

I checked the seattle CL and find it flooded with mercedes cars by owner.  It 
divides between those who think the cars are magical and should bring big 
dollar.  The others are realists and are selling off the things for a bit above 
scrap values, or at least at K’leb prices.  That does not bode well for getting 
rid of the SD for me

clay


> On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe you'll just have to fix and sell the ones you have.
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 4/18/19 5:20 PM:
>> Well my broad mercedes searches only yields 5-6 new posts in areas where 
>> there might have been 15-20 normally, other cities produce no new listings. 
>> It’s quite frustrating.
>> 
>> 


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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: if you were looking for an E320CDI

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

My 2005 gasser has Command Center.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 4:57 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes <
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> The '05 will have the inline 6. Ask Wilton how he likes his.
>
> The '09 will have the V-6 (same same Sprinter) . Make sure the oil
> cooler gasket has been
>
> replaced with the new type. Mine was replaced around 100K before I
> bought it.
>
> My '08 is a Blutec but does't use bluejuice. The '09 will.
>
> Don't know if the '05 has the Comand center or not but the '09 will have
> it.
>
> Russ W '08 E320 164k
>
> On 4/17/2019 11:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> > Which would you pick?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2005 $6000 E320 CDI  218k miles
> >
> >
> > 2009 $7900  E320 CDI  Bluejuice   98K miles
> >
> > pros and cons?what to check?  what to avoid?
> >
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Car for Clay!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Priced way too low in today's frenzied market for 108 sedans.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 5:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here’s another beauty!
>
>
> https://olympic.craigslist.org/cto/d/carlsborg-1972-mercedes-benz-280s/6865426101.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Affectionately known as "brain buckets".

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 5:36 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes a helmet, or they might have some loaners.  I'll let you know, could
> be fun.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/18/19 4:39 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Do you also need a helmet?  I think a co-driver is also required.  Hey
> I'm free that weekend!
>
> --
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: CL Is Dead

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Try autotempest.com

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow.
> 
> I’m looking through “MakeModelSearch” for my daily old MB search, and it’s 
> getting thinner and thinner as time goes on. Today there were only 8 hits for 
> the whole country for new CL listings of cars from 1940 to 1968. Last week 
> this time there were roughly 60-70 listings.
> 
> No way to do a national search on FB, or any sort of sensible narrow search 
> at all, for that matter. Guess I’ll need to start looking at Hemmings again. 
> Geez.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: CL Is Dead

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Maybe you'll just have to fix and sell the ones you have.

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 4/18/19 5:20 PM:

Well my broad mercedes searches only yields 5-6 new posts in areas where there 
might have been 15-20 normally, other cities produce no new listings. It’s 
quite frustrating.





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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:39:06 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Do you also need a helmet?  I think a co-driver is also required.  Hey
> I'm free that weekend!

The one I did was solo.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:06:27 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Has anyone ever done one of these?  I saw they are having one at a
> small airport up the road in a coupla weeks and I was thinking it might
> be fun to go, maybe take the SL and see how it would work.  They have
> some minimal rules but nothing too restrictive. You can basically run
> what ya brung, any sort of car.

Yes, I did it in Colorado Springs in 1972 with the Lotus Europa I had
(that was before the Christmas trip during which a piston disintegrated).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Draining Torque Converter

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:52:02 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Someone has gone before you.
> 
> Your bell housing casting is broken because someone has used the “ribs”
> as a fulcrum for a screwdriver against those little raised “tabs” you
> can see on the torque converter.
>
> That works, too, when ring gear teeth can’t be accessed.

I saw that and tried pushing on the little raised bumps, but had no
success.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] CL Is Dead

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Well my broad mercedes searches only yields 5-6 new posts in areas where there 
might have been 15-20 normally, other cities produce no new listings. It’s 
quite frustrating.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do consider that I’m looking at a relatively small segment of their market, 
> but to see it drop off that much is pretty stunning.
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep it’s going to implode. I don’t think it’s going to work out like they 
>> thought. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow.
>>> 
>>> I’m looking through “MakeModelSearch” for my daily old MB search, and it’s 
>>> getting thinner and thinner as time goes on. Today there were only 8 hits 
>>> for the whole country for new CL listings of cars from 1940 to 1968. Last 
>>> week this time there were roughly 60-70 listings.
>>> 
>>> No way to do a national search on FB, or any sort of sensible narrow search 
>>> at all, for that matter. Guess I’ll need to start looking at Hemmings 
>>> again. Geez.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] CL Is Dead

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Do consider that I’m looking at a relatively small segment of their market, but 
to see it drop off that much is pretty stunning.

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep it’s going to implode. I don’t think it’s going to work out like they 
> thought. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow.
>> 
>> I’m looking through “MakeModelSearch” for my daily old MB search, and it’s 
>> getting thinner and thinner as time goes on. Today there were only 8 hits 
>> for the whole country for new CL listings of cars from 1940 to 1968. Last 
>> week this time there were roughly 60-70 listings.
>> 
>> No way to do a national search on FB, or any sort of sensible narrow search 
>> at all, for that matter. Guess I’ll need to start looking at Hemmings again. 
>> Geez.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] CL Is Dead

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep it’s going to implode. I don’t think it’s going to work out like they 
thought. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow.
> 
> I’m looking through “MakeModelSearch” for my daily old MB search, and it’s 
> getting thinner and thinner as time goes on. Today there were only 8 hits for 
> the whole country for new CL listings of cars from 1940 to 1968. Last week 
> this time there were roughly 60-70 listings.
> 
> No way to do a national search on FB, or any sort of sensible narrow search 
> at all, for that matter. Guess I’ll need to start looking at Hemmings again. 
> Geez.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Car for Clay!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here’s another beauty!

https://olympic.craigslist.org/cto/d/carlsborg-1972-mercedes-benz-280s/6865426101.html

-D


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[MBZ] CL Is Dead

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wow.

I’m looking through “MakeModelSearch” for my daily old MB search, and it’s 
getting thinner and thinner as time goes on. Today there were only 8 hits for 
the whole country for new CL listings of cars from 1940 to 1968. Last week this 
time there were roughly 60-70 listings.

No way to do a national search on FB, or any sort of sensible narrow search at 
all, for that matter. Guess I’ll need to start looking at Hemmings again. Geez.

-D
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yes a helmet, or they might have some loaners.  I'll let you know, could 
be fun.


--FT

On 4/18/19 4:39 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Do you also need a helmet?  I think a co-driver is also required.  Hey I'm free 
that weekend!


--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT maybe I need this V12?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

You are right-confusing as Pierce fire engines and Pierce Arrow cars were
separate but Seagrave used Pierce Arrow engines. I drove a 1989 Pierce fire
engine with a Detroit diesel.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:27 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> One of the comments says a Pierce Arrow engine:
>
> td1 93 
>
> Seagrave bought the Pierce Arrow engine dies when Pierce closed in 1938.
> That’s basically a Pierce-Arrow V-12 in that beauty at no reserve. A few
> more engine photos might be helpful to P-A parts scavengers.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/18/19 3:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Of interest, the fire truck engine is actually a Packard engine. Once the
> > elegant cars of the 30's were killed off by Depression, Packard survived
> by
> > producing engines for trucks and fire for a number of years.
> > Your 1938 Packard engine can still be rebuilt because a store of parts
> > remains from the industrial sales Wonderful !!
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 8:40 AM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:13:31 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1952-seagrave-900/
> >> That's quite unique!
> >>
> >> This, however, might be a better choice:
> >>
> >>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1938-packard-twelve-convertible-sedan/
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] if you were looking for an E320CDI

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

The '05 will have the inline 6. Ask Wilton how he likes his.

The '09 will have the V-6 (same same Sprinter) . Make sure the oil 
cooler gasket has been


replaced with the new type. Mine was replaced around 100K before I 
bought it.


My '08 is a Blutec but does't use bluejuice. The '09 will.

Don't know if the '05 has the Comand center or not but the '09 will have 
it.


Russ W '08 E320 164k

On 4/17/2019 11:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Which would you pick?



2005 $6000 E320 CDI  218k miles


2009 $7900  E320 CDI  Bluejuice   98K miles

pros and cons?what to check?  what to avoid?




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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Do you also need a helmet?  I think a co-driver is also required.  Hey I'm free 
that weekend!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On April 18, 2019 3:25:34 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>It seems like it is not too hard to pass, basically if you have good 
>tires, brakes, brake fluid, nothing loose in the car.
>
>I would need to get the accumulators installed, I might do that this 
>weekend after this storm rolls through tomorrow.
>
>It's $55 if you aren't a member, I think a year membership is like $100
>
>and they waive your first fee, so not a bad deal.  They are having 
>another one closer in a coupla weeks too in a big parking lot.
>
>My worry is if I drive the car and it breaks, I would not be able to
>get 
>back!  I guess I could run it up on a trailer behind the truck.
>
>--FT
>
>On 4/18/19 2:17 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Will it pass their inspection?
>>
>> Every SCCA event I’ve ever seen or participated in had a technical
>inspection.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever done one of these?  I saw they are having one at a
>small airport up the road in a coupla weeks and I was thinking it might
>be fun to go, maybe take the SL and see how it would work.  They have
>some minimal rules but nothing too restrictive. You can basically run
>what ya brung, any sort of car.
>>>
>>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I did end up buying it had bad rear wheel bearings (common problem I
guess, and disclosed by seller). Bought a couple of Timken rear hubs
from RockAuto, and when I opened the box they were in Volvo bags with
part numbers so I guess that's a good sign.

Installation was a bit of a pain. Took some heavy hammering to get the
old hubs out. But saved over $800 from the dealer estimate the seller
provided, though at the cost of a couple of band-aids for the invariable
skinned knuckles.

Allan

Peter Hertzing via Mercedes  writes:

> Should be good then..  I’ve had a couple of those up to 250k...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's the 3.2 l 6 cylinder, FWD.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Peter Hertzing via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Big question is what engine...  avoid the V8
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I've not priced much in Volvo stuff but I've been around a few Volvo
 enthusiasts in my time and not heard anything about parts being hard
 to find or expensive. Next you'll tell me TDI parts are hard to find
 and over priced.  Non-enthusiasts, generally don't know anything
 about cars and have been fed a line by the marketers about how their
 cars are super reliable and will last forever so they just don't
 bother with any kind of maintenance. Volvo owners are a little worse
 than the rest of the crowd.  Of course we all know the real marketing
 that Volvo should have stuck to "Boxy but good."
 
 -Curt
 
 On Wednesday, March 27, 2019, 9:51:53 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:  
 
 THat's an OXYmoron volvo owners are notorious for never fixing 
 anything because the parts are outrageous IF you can find em.
 

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT maybe I need this V12?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

One of the comments says a Pierce Arrow engine:

td1 93 

Seagrave bought the Pierce Arrow engine dies when Pierce closed in 1938. 
That’s basically a Pierce-Arrow V-12 in that beauty at no reserve. A few 
more engine photos might be helpful to P-A parts scavengers.


--FT

On 4/18/19 3:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Of interest, the fire truck engine is actually a Packard engine. Once the
elegant cars of the 30's were killed off by Depression, Packard survived by
producing engines for trucks and fire for a number of years.
Your 1938 Packard engine can still be rebuilt because a store of parts
remains from the industrial sales Wonderful !!

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 8:40 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:13:31 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1952-seagrave-900/

That's quite unique!

This, however, might be a better choice:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1938-packard-twelve-convertible-sedan/


Craig

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** OT maybe I need this V12?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I want it!!!

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 3:31 PM G Mann via Mercedes  Of interest, the fire truck engine is actually a Packard engine. Once the
> elegant cars of the 30's were killed off by Depression, Packard survived by
> producing engines for trucks and fire for a number of years.
> Your 1938 Packard engine can still be rebuilt because a store of parts
> remains from the industrial sales Wonderful !!
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 8:40 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:13:31 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1952-seagrave-900/
> >
> > That's quite unique!
> >
> > This, however, might be a better choice:
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1938-packard-twelve-convertible-sedan/
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT maybe I need this V12?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Of interest, the fire truck engine is actually a Packard engine. Once the
elegant cars of the 30's were killed off by Depression, Packard survived by
producing engines for trucks and fire for a number of years.
Your 1938 Packard engine can still be rebuilt because a store of parts
remains from the industrial sales Wonderful !!

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 8:40 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:13:31 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1952-seagrave-900/
>
> That's quite unique!
>
> This, however, might be a better choice:
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1938-packard-twelve-convertible-sedan/
>
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> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It seems like it is not too hard to pass, basically if you have good 
tires, brakes, brake fluid, nothing loose in the car.


I would need to get the accumulators installed, I might do that this 
weekend after this storm rolls through tomorrow.


It's $55 if you aren't a member, I think a year membership is like $100 
and they waive your first fee, so not a bad deal.  They are having 
another one closer in a coupla weeks too in a big parking lot.


My worry is if I drive the car and it breaks, I would not be able to get 
back!  I guess I could run it up on a trailer behind the truck.


--FT

On 4/18/19 2:17 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Will it pass their inspection?

Every SCCA event I’ve ever seen or participated in had a technical inspection.

-D


On Apr 18, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Has anyone ever done one of these?  I saw they are having one at a small 
airport up the road in a coupla weeks and I was thinking it might be fun to go, 
maybe take the SL and see how it would work.  They have some minimal rules but 
nothing too restrictive. You can basically run what ya brung, any sort of car.

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Will it pass their inspection?

Every SCCA event I’ve ever seen or participated in had a technical inspection.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone ever done one of these?  I saw they are having one at a small 
> airport up the road in a coupla weeks and I was thinking it might be fun to 
> go, maybe take the SL and see how it would work.  They have some minimal 
> rules but nothing too restrictive. You can basically run what ya brung, any 
> sort of car.
> 
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[MBZ] hey Kleb

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

 ‎Richard Sheets
 
‎/_to_/Mercedes
 W123 (North America)
 

42 mins·

Hey guys, I’ve got several cars I’m looking to get rid of. If I made an 
ad is it ok to post it here?


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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** SCCA autocross?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Has anyone ever done one of these?  I saw they are having one at a small 
airport up the road in a coupla weeks and I was thinking it might be fun 
to go, maybe take the SL and see how it would work.  They have some 
minimal rules but nothing too restrictive. You can basically run what ya 
brung, any sort of car.


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Re: [MBZ] Draining Torque Converter

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Someone has gone before you.

Your bell housing casting is broken because someone has used the “ribs” as a 
fulcrum for a screwdriver against those little raised “tabs” you can see on the 
torque converter.

That works, too, when ring gear teeth can’t be accessed.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 19:57:42 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Or….
>> 
>> Long flat bladed screwdriver. You can engage the screwdriver blade in
>> the flywheel teeth through the cast “screen” in the bottom of the
>> flywheel housing and turn the engine over slowly, about a inch or two
>> at a time. I’ve done it this way in the past without any negative
>> effects.
> 
> Well, amongst everything else I have going on, I went do just that and
> found what is shown in the attached picture.
> 
> No flywheel teeth visible => this method won't work.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I wouldn’t go that far - yet.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh wait”WD 40/oil soaked”
> 
> Got it. Any need to withdraw the cable and lube it?  
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Extend all the way. Wipe/rub down with 1000 grit emery cloth. Wipe off with 
>> oil or WD40 soaked cloth. “Help” it lower to make sure it retracts all the 
>> way.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah. I normally do but I felt compelled to support my work associate. 
>>> Lesson learned. 
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Ah the advantages of hand washing
 
 
 Rick
 
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: April 18, 2019 10:57 AM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself
 
 
 A muddy drive through a construction zone and a coupon for a free car wash 
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 antenna. Damn it.
 I think it’s simply the through body grommet got wallered out. It will 
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 fully up it lists about 28 degrees off perfectly vertical.
 On the up side, the car wash is nice.
 
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Oh wait”WD 40/oil soaked”

Got it. Any need to withdraw the cable and lube it?  

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Extend all the way. Wipe/rub down with 1000 grit emery cloth. Wipe off with 
> oil or WD40 soaked cloth. “Help” it lower to make sure it retracts all the 
> way.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah. I normally do but I felt compelled to support my work associate. 
>> Lesson learned. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah the advantages of hand washing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: April 18, 2019 10:57 AM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A muddy drive through a construction zone and a coupon for a free car wash 
>>> at the new car wash a retired friend opened equals me having to go fix my 
>>> antenna. Damn it.
>>> I think it’s simply the through body grommet got wallered out. It will 
>>> still go all the way up but it will lower only to the last section. When 
>>> fully up it lists about 28 degrees off perfectly vertical.
>>> On the up side, the car wash is nice.
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

What about lube? Does it need something like sunroof lube? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Extend all the way. Wipe/rub down with 1000 grit emery cloth. Wipe off with 
> oil or WD40 soaked cloth. “Help” it lower to make sure it retracts all the 
> way.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah. I normally do but I felt compelled to support my work associate. 
>> Lesson learned. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah the advantages of hand washing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: April 18, 2019 10:57 AM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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>>> Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A muddy drive through a construction zone and a coupon for a free car wash 
>>> at the new car wash a retired friend opened equals me having to go fix my 
>>> antenna. Damn it.
>>> I think it’s simply the through body grommet got wallered out. It will 
>>> still go all the way up but it will lower only to the last section. When 
>>> fully up it lists about 28 degrees off perfectly vertical.
>>> On the up side, the car wash is nice.
>>> 
>>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Extend all the way. Wipe/rub down with 1000 grit emery cloth. Wipe off with oil 
or WD40 soaked cloth. “Help” it lower to make sure it retracts all the way.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah. I normally do but I felt compelled to support my work associate. 
> Lesson learned. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah the advantages of hand washing
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: April 18, 2019 10:57 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
>> Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself
>> 
>> 
>> A muddy drive through a construction zone and a coupon for a free car wash 
>> at the new car wash a retired friend opened equals me having to go fix my 
>> antenna. Damn it.
>> I think it’s simply the through body grommet got wallered out. It will still 
>> go all the way up but it will lower only to the last section. When fully up 
>> it lists about 28 degrees off perfectly vertical.
>> On the up side, the car wash is nice.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yeah. I normally do but I felt compelled to support my work associate. 
Lesson learned. 

Bob R

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> On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ah the advantages of hand washing
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: April 18, 2019 10:57 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself
> 
> 
> A muddy drive through a construction zone and a coupon for a free car wash at 
> the new car wash a retired friend opened equals me having to go fix my 
> antenna. Damn it.
> I think it’s simply the through body grommet got wallered out. It will still 
> go all the way up but it will lower only to the last section. When fully up 
> it lists about 28 degrees off perfectly vertical.
> On the up side, the car wash is nice.
> 
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Ah the advantages of hand washing


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself


A muddy drive through a construction zone and a coupon for a free car wash at 
the new car wash a retired friend opened equals me having to go fix my antenna. 
Damn it.
I think it’s simply the through body grommet got wallered out. It will still go 
all the way up but it will lower only to the last section. When fully up it 
lists about 28 degrees off perfectly vertical.
On the up side, the car wash is nice.

Bob R


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[MBZ] I Hate When I Make More Work for Myself

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

A muddy drive through a construction zone and a coupon for a free car wash at 
the new car wash a retired friend opened equals me having to go fix my antenna. 
Damn it. 
I think it’s simply the through body grommet got wallered out. It will still go 
all the way up but it will lower only to the last section. When fully up it 
lists about 28 degrees off perfectly vertical. 
On the up side, the car wash is nice. 

Bob R

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** This could go for some reasonable money

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Would be nicer in any other color combo. Pimped or Primped?

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Pimped a bit, and not as desirable as a 560, but is still pretty nice
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-380sec-5
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist screwed itself

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:11:09 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  I know. I don't know how it happens but there are people that make the
> same post every day or even twice a day and spam the crap out of the
> search. I tried it once and got a duplicate listing warning so I'm not
> sure how they do it but they do, or did anyway... -Curt

If you change something in the post -- maybe just change the order of the
pictures -- you can (could) post in different venues. I changed the title
of my posting of our Peterbilt 386 so I could post it in different places.
(A fellow near San Antonio was the one who bought it.)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT maybe I need this V12?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:13:31 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1952-seagrave-900/

That's quite unique!

This, however, might be a better choice:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1938-packard-twelve-convertible-sedan/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist screwed itself

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I know. I don't know how it happens but there are people that make the same 
post every day or even twice a day and spam the crap out of the search. I tried 
it once and got a duplicate listing warning so I'm not sure how they do it but 
they do, or did anyway...
-Curt

On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 10:08:59 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 You are only supposed to post the car once then you can renew it every few 
days. It looks like now with the paid ads you can’t renew it anymore to push it 
to the top 

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> On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> On the other hand it will weed out a lot of the unsellable cars. The ones 
> that should be going for scrap that somebody thinks they're going to actually 
> get paid for.
> 
> It might also weed out the crazy cross posting or over posting. When I was 
> shopping for my TDI there was a guy posting his same 7 or 8 cars twice a 
> day...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 10:41:58 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Since Craigslist started charging $5 for private seller ads listings are WAY 
> WAY down. In the markets I’m looking at before would have had dozens of MB 
> listings a day now has 6 or less. With traffic that far down from what it was 
> I would think buyers would look elsewhere for listings. I understand them 
> charging dealers but not private sellers. Without private seller listings 
> buyers won’t find what they are looking for and will quit going to the site 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist screwed itself

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You are only supposed to post the car once then you can renew it every few 
days. It looks like now with the paid ads you can’t renew it anymore to push it 
to the top 

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> On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> On the other hand it will weed out a lot of the unsellable cars. The ones 
> that should be going for scrap that somebody thinks they're going to actually 
> get paid for.
> 
> It might also weed out the crazy cross posting or over posting. When I was 
> shopping for my TDI there was a guy posting his same 7 or 8 cars twice a 
> day...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 10:41:58 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Since Craigslist started charging $5 for private seller ads listings are WAY 
> WAY down. In the markets I’m looking at before would have had dozens of MB 
> listings a day now has 6 or less. With traffic that far down from what it was 
> I would think buyers would look elsewhere for listings. I understand them 
> charging dealers but not private sellers. Without private seller listings 
> buyers won’t find what they are looking for and will quit going to the site 
> 
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** 22" rims yo

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-2008-mercedes-benz-e350-4/6869050363.html

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist screwed itself

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 On the other hand it will weed out a lot of the unsellable cars. The ones that 
should be going for scrap that somebody thinks they're going to actually get 
paid for.
It might also weed out the crazy cross posting or over posting. When I was 
shopping for my TDI there was a guy posting his same 7 or 8 cars twice a day...
-Curt

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 10:41:58 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Since Craigslist started charging $5 for private seller ads listings are WAY 
WAY down. In the markets I’m looking at before would have had dozens of MB 
listings a day now has 6 or less. With traffic that far down from what it was I 
would think buyers would look elsewhere for listings. I understand them 
charging dealers but not private sellers. Without private seller listings 
buyers won’t find what they are looking for and will quit going to the site 

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Re: [MBZ] How to get a cheap Benz

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.car2go.com/US/en/chicago/


 smart fortwo

Zippy and easy to park - The smart fortwo can fit in almost any parking 
spot and can maneuver around even the craziest downtown rush hour 
traffic jams.



 Mercedes-Benz GLA

Sporty and spacious - This small SUV has room for 5 people, plus added 
cargo capacity with a handy hatchback.



 Mercedes-Benz CLA

Stylish and fun - There's room for 5 in this 4-door sedan. Cruise around 
town in a smooth, comfortable ride - even everyday errands seem a little 
more exciting.


On 4/18/19 9:33 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:

of some sort

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/over-100-rental-cars-stolen-in-chicago-through-fraudulent-use-of-app-508720771.html 




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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** How to get a cheap Benz

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

of some sort

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/over-100-rental-cars-stolen-in-chicago-through-fraudulent-use-of-app-508720771.html

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT maybe I need this V12?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1952-seagrave-900/

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** This could go for some reasonable money

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Pimped a bit, and not as desirable as a 560, but is still pretty nice

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-380sec-5

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Re: [MBZ] if you were looking for an E320CDI

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The 05 will be much easier to work on, watch out for Black Death. It has the 
SBC braking which is covered for 25 years now. The 09 with lower miles would be 
nice but the 642 is much more complicated and has the oil cooler leaking issue. 

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> 
> Which would you pick?
> 
> 
> 
> 2005 $6000 E320 CDI  218k miles
> 
> 
> 2009 $7900  E320 CDI  Bluejuice   98K miles
> 
> pros and cons?what to check?  what to avoid?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] if you were looking for an E320CDI

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No question, the 2005.  Pretty much a bullet-proof drive train, straight 6
vs. V6 in the 2009, which are a lot of trouble.  Con: brakes, but there was
a warranty extension on them I think.  The price may be too high, have to
look at condition and records, but with so many miles I think that is
high.  Kaleb would know better what prices are.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:10 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Which would you pick?
>
>
>
> 2005 $6000 E320 CDI  218k miles
>
>
> 2009 $7900  E320 CDI  Bluejuice   98K miles
>
> pros and cons?what to check?  what to avoid?
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist screwed itself

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. The FB search function blows.

I think the CL $5 is a good thing.

-D

On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:12 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

>>> Yep. Too bad their search functions sucks
> 
>> Can  you go to https://start.duckduckgo.com/ and do the search:
> 
>Mercedes site:facebook.com   ?
> 
> Not successfully. I don't use the FB application on my phone, I use the 
> mobile Firefox browser to search FB marketplace.  It truly sucks.
> 
> 
> Rick
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