Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Dan,
Good result for first try !

Now that you have the bits all melted back together, give it a good sanding
with 220 wet or dry and a sanding block, then use some J-B Weld material
called "Plastic Bonder" with a plastic spreader [bondo type] to put a
smooth coating over the weld area.
The J-B Weld Plastic Bonder has 3770 psi strength and sets up in 15
minutes, will sand in 30 / 45 minutes [depending on temp/humidity locally]
It goes on nice and smooth, sort of semi liquid for a nice skim coat. Block
sand it to contour, fill any low spots you still have with a second coat,
and the injury will disappear.  Spray bomb primer, sand, top color coat..

You'll never know it was damaged.

If you have other plastic bumper injuries on other cars a heat gun does
wonders for softening the plastic that's dented wear gloves and
"massage" the dent back to contour while the plastic is warmed by heat
gun If you play the heat just right, the paint and plastic will come to
contour without having to repaint, sometimes. Don't use to much heat, it's
easy to tell when the plastic is working temp to massage to shape, once you
do it.. combination of playing the heat gun over the surface and trial
pushing from the other side by gloved hand... withdraw heat gun and let
plastic cool... reheat and move more if necessary... etc etc.

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 9:53 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:26:36 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > That and I can also see where the heat gun approach for repairing
> > plastic is far superior to the oversize soldering iron approach. The
> > oversize soldering iron method works, but it’s slow. If you have a
> > large crack or area to cover, it’s going to take you a while.
> >
> > I’m wondering if I can use my heat gun to do this…
>
> I would expect you to not have as fine a control of the heat of the
> various parts as you would like, which would be manifested by things
> going soft and slumping away from where you want them to be.
>
> But then, I could be wrong ...
>
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:26:36 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That and I can also see where the heat gun approach for repairing
> plastic is far superior to the oversize soldering iron approach. The
> oversize soldering iron method works, but it’s slow. If you have a
> large crack or area to cover, it’s going to take you a while.
> 
> I’m wondering if I can use my heat gun to do this…

I would expect you to not have as fine a control of the heat of the
various parts as you would like, which would be manifested by things
going soft and slumping away from where you want them to be.

But then, I could be wrong ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 22:00:10 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So when I saw that HF had a plastic welder, essentially an 80W
> soldering iron with a big flat sort of tip on it, for $16, I went that
> route.

I thought you said it was, "a BIG honking soldering iron ..."

I have had for years a 200 W soldering iron for soldering moderately
heavy things.

When I worked at Hewlett-Packard in Colorado Springs, I had the
opportunity to use a 600 W soldering iron in the course of my work.
It put out a lot of heat, which got me wondering. I turned off the
room's lights and let my eye dark adapt and, sure enough, I could
see the iron glowing a dull red.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe somebody on fakebook will want this

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

CAN U STACK IT BRO

CAN I CUT SPRINGS DOWN TO LOWER IT BRO

CAN I FIT 20S YO

SHOULD I POUR THE USED OIL IN THE TANK TO LUBRICATE THE INJECTION PUMP BECAUSE 
THE NEW DIESEL FUEL LACKS SULFUR 

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> 1980 Mercedes 300SD turbo diesel
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This would be a lot nicer than that ugly SLC

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Owned a '76 Chevette from '76 - '82.  Paid $3600, sold it for $300, and the
only work it required was for brakes during that time period. This enabled
us to purchase our first Mercedes (1973 280).

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:37 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Yes,well said.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 10:15 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  Weight.Your '78 Celica was a little tin can with seats, it weighed
> > nothing and if you got in an accident with something bigger than it you
> > died.Today's cars are considerably more substantial, they've got bracing
> in
> > the doors and a safety frame that will stay together and protect you in
> an
> > accident.For a good comparison go back and find the old Fifthgear video
> > where they crash a '90's Volvo, a car that I thought seemed pretty safe.
> > Then they crash some little Asian crap box at the same speed into the
> same
> > barrier. The people in the Asian crap box would have walked away, the
> > people in the Volvo MIGHT have survived...
> > Cars today are way safer than even just 20 years ago, they emit less
> > pollution and will last 200,000 miles with minimal maintenance.
> > Go back and drive any car OTHER than a Mercedes (or maybe Volvo) from the
> > '70s, they were not nice vehicles compared to the stuff made today...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Saturday, June 15, 2019, 2:53:32 PM EDT, Clay Monroe via Mercedes
> <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  My vote for the GWN would be a diesel dually.  But the question is, why,
> > with all the new technology, are cars not getting better gas mileage over
> > the past two decades.  My ’78 Celica got the same mileage 40 years ago
> that
> > I can get with a new car.
> >
> > clay monroe
> >
> > > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for
> what
> > I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 14, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Huh?  Were toad "toadas run forever."  No need to replace that, unless
> > it got munched by a moose.  Replace the cheep with a e300D AWD, or if AWD
> > is not needed, read Curt's last post about his VW.  A VW Pissant Dissel
> > will do well, and keep you out of MB to suit SWMBO.
> > >
> > > Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 6/14/19 2:14 PM:
> > >> I haz a kwextchin
> > >>
> > >> Looking at something to replace either the ten year old yoda of SWMBA
> > or the junker 20 yo yeep driven by #2 boy, most of the vergasser choices
> > able to seat four normal adults and one reasonable child are not able to
> do
> > better than 22mpg.  The same lame economy cars twenty or more years old
> > were able to achieve.  Are we relegated to the new electric toys cars
> that
> > are stretching to get range or  hybrid and only get a few miles more per
> > gallon?
> > >>
> > >> clay
> > >>
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe somebody on fakebook will want this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Would have to assume it has no brakes ("Runs and drives") and the interior
is totally thrashed (no potos).

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 1980 Mercedes 300SD turbo diesel
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Re: [MBZ] This would be a lot nicer than that ugly SLC

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes,well said.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 10:15 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Weight.Your '78 Celica was a little tin can with seats, it weighed
> nothing and if you got in an accident with something bigger than it you
> died.Today's cars are considerably more substantial, they've got bracing in
> the doors and a safety frame that will stay together and protect you in an
> accident.For a good comparison go back and find the old Fifthgear video
> where they crash a '90's Volvo, a car that I thought seemed pretty safe.
> Then they crash some little Asian crap box at the same speed into the same
> barrier. The people in the Asian crap box would have walked away, the
> people in the Volvo MIGHT have survived...
> Cars today are way safer than even just 20 years ago, they emit less
> pollution and will last 200,000 miles with minimal maintenance.
> Go back and drive any car OTHER than a Mercedes (or maybe Volvo) from the
> '70s, they were not nice vehicles compared to the stuff made today...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, June 15, 2019, 2:53:32 PM EDT, Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  My vote for the GWN would be a diesel dually.  But the question is, why,
> with all the new technology, are cars not getting better gas mileage over
> the past two decades.  My ’78 Celica got the same mileage 40 years ago that
> I can get with a new car.
>
> clay monroe
>
> > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>
>
>
> > On Jun 14, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Huh?  Were toad "toadas run forever."  No need to replace that, unless
> it got munched by a moose.  Replace the cheep with a e300D AWD, or if AWD
> is not needed, read Curt's last post about his VW.  A VW Pissant Dissel
> will do well, and keep you out of MB to suit SWMBO.
> >
> > Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 6/14/19 2:14 PM:
> >> I haz a kwextchin
> >>
> >> Looking at something to replace either the ten year old yoda of SWMBA
> or the junker 20 yo yeep driven by #2 boy, most of the vergasser choices
> able to seat four normal adults and one reasonable child are not able to do
> better than 22mpg.  The same lame economy cars twenty or more years old
> were able to achieve.  Are we relegated to the new electric toys cars that
> are stretching to get range or  hybrid and only get a few miles more per
> gallon?
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >
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[MBZ] Maybe somebody on fakebook will want this

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

1980 Mercedes 300SD turbo diesel

https://easttexas.craigslist.org/pts/d/mabank-1980-mercedes-300sd-turbo-diesel/6911532832.html


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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Thats the iron I have, for the money I think its a really good tool. Heck for 
twice the money its still a pretty good tool...
-Curt

On Saturday, June 15, 2019, 8:25:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.

Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering iron 
with a big flat tip on it.

Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to remove 
it.

Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless steel 
mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a unit, 
stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get to all of 
it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but got most of 
it.

Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got it 
all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. I 
guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but for 
now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look. 

Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] This would be a lot nicer than that ugly SLC

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Weight.Your '78 Celica was a little tin can with seats, it weighed nothing and 
if you got in an accident with something bigger than it you died.Today's cars 
are considerably more substantial, they've got bracing in the doors and a 
safety frame that will stay together and protect you in an accident.For a good 
comparison go back and find the old Fifthgear video where they crash a '90's 
Volvo, a car that I thought seemed pretty safe. Then they crash some little 
Asian crap box at the same speed into the same barrier. The people in the Asian 
crap box would have walked away, the people in the Volvo MIGHT have survived...
Cars today are way safer than even just 20 years ago, they emit less pollution 
and will last 200,000 miles with minimal maintenance.
Go back and drive any car OTHER than a Mercedes (or maybe Volvo) from the '70s, 
they were not nice vehicles compared to the stuff made today...

-Curt

On Saturday, June 15, 2019, 2:53:32 PM EDT, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 My vote for the GWN would be a diesel dually.  But the question is, why, with 
all the new technology, are cars not getting better gas mileage over the past 
two decades.  My ’78 Celica got the same mileage 40 years ago that I can get 
with a new car.

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Jun 14, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Huh?  Were toad "toadas run forever."  No need to replace that, unless it got 
> munched by a moose.  Replace the cheep with a e300D AWD, or if AWD is not 
> needed, read Curt's last post about his VW.  A VW Pissant Dissel will do 
> well, and keep you out of MB to suit SWMBO.
> 
> Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 6/14/19 2:14 PM:
>> I haz a kwextchin
>> 
>> Looking at something to replace either the ten year old yoda of SWMBA or the 
>> junker 20 yo yeep driven by #2 boy, most of the vergasser choices able to 
>> seat four normal adults and one reasonable child are not able to do better 
>> than 22mpg.  The same lame economy cars twenty or more years old were able 
>> to achieve.  Are we relegated to the new electric toys cars that are 
>> stretching to get range or  hybrid and only get a few miles more per gallon?
>> 
>> clay
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 oil pressure gauge no worky

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan. On order.

Not to stoke any political fires but on the gun thing I enjoyed this
conversation. Not the usual take:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GFRCx5LJHI

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 2:28 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Especially on M119 engines.
>
> I believe it’s a part number 0065429417, and I checked and VDO was the
> supplier. The OE sender is about $90 and the VDO can be found in the
> $50-$60 dollar range. There are others, but they’re far less expensive and
> reliable.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 14, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 94 e420. Do the sending units go bad, or what? The harness is new. No
> > lights on the dash.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 5:28 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It is finally warmed up here in the desert. Over the last three days
> we’ve
> >> had 108, 112, and then yesterday was 114. It’s finally use the AC time
> in
> >> my old W124. The old R12 system is doing well, so long as I keep
> moving. We
> >> all know that whole story.
> >> I don’t think that I ever heard the aux fan come on. While driving in
> stop
> >> and go traffic, engine temperature got up to 110° C. But then once I
> >> started moving, it got back down to about 90 to 95 C.
> >>
> >> I suppose I should test the aux fan. What is the procedure for testing
> the
> >> aux fan on my W124? At what temperature should that rascal be kicking
> on?
> >>
> >> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I had the pieces.

I also had plastic filler sticks that came with the plastic welder. That’s the 
black stuff you see on the bumper. They also include a piece of stainless 
screen, but you can buy 9” x 12” pieces of it from the Island of Large Wimmen 
for like $6 for three pieces, too.

What you do if you have access to the back of the pieces is cut out a piece of 
stainless steel mesh (screen) and melt that into the back of the crack or 
pieces to give them some physical strength. Then you can fill in the cracks 
from the outside with the filler sticks.

Grant posted a good YouTube video on how to do it earlier this week. That guy 
used a sort of “spoon” that he heated up in a MAPP torch, then used it to melt 
things. I tried that earlier in the day but it’s not terribly efficient and 
you’re also dealing with an open torch. So when I saw that HF had a plastic 
welder, essentially an 80W soldering iron with a big flat sort of tip on it, 
for $16, I went that route.

Definitely better than the torch and spoon approach.

-D



> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So did you have the pieces that broke out of the bumper?  or use some other 
> plastic for filler?
> 
> On 6/15/2019 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> No pictures from the back where you could see the stainless mesh, but you’ll 
>> get the idea.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
>>> 
>>> Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering 
>>> iron with a big flat tip on it.
>>> 
>>> Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to 
>>> remove it.
>>> 
>>> Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
>>> Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless 
>>> steel mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a 
>>> unit, stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get 
>>> to all of it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but 
>>> got most of it.
>>> 
>>> Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got 
>>> it all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. 
>>> I guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but 
>>> for now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look.
>>> 
>>> Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You should "borrow" the title of this thread for the article, Plan Bee...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On June 15, 2019 8:32:05 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>In the last few years (since the drought ended) the bees swarmed at
>least a half dozen times.  As I understand it, the old queen leads the
>swarm as a new queen is "born" to lead the old hive.  Local beekeepers
>came and got a couple of the swarms before they "got away" but most of
>the swarms apparently have new homes somewhere in the wild. I have
>about 45 forested acres and there are several other large "tree farms"
>nearby.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>Max
>> Dillon via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 6:55 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
>> 
>> That's a great story Scott!  You should contact your local newspaper
>to
>> see if they would like to run an article.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On June 15, 2019 6:08:54 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> >I tried to get rid of my bees at first.  Gad several bee-keepers
>come
>> >to get them.  They removed a bunch each time but never got them all.
> I
>> >decided to try to kill the ones remaining.  I killed a bunch but
>many
>> >still remained.  Finally I decided to co-exist.  They are right over
>> >our bedroom (I can hear them buzz) but I sealed that room pretty
>well
>> >when I painted it and they don't seem to get in.  A few do get into
>the
>> >upstairs storeroom through cracks between the 1854 floorboards but
>> >that's manageable.  Given the problems bees have had lately I'm glad
>> >some have a safe place.
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> >> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>> >> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 3:14 PM
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>> >> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
>> >> Subject: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
>> >>
>> >> After my neighbor got sorted out on his anaphylactic reaction to
>the
>> >bee
>> >> sting the other day he’s back and working on the hive. He pulled
>out
>> >a
>> >> coupla combs (11 visible)and could see and feel a lot more way up
>in
>> >> there. He has determined it goes up into the rafters a lot, the
>honey
>> >is
>> >> up in there. He thinks it’s huge maybe 10-15 lb or more (most he
>sees
>> >> are like 2-3lb), the queen is up in there. Maybe I will get some
>> >honey
>> >> out of it!
>> >>
>> >> He’s trying to figure out how to get it dealt with, we might have
>to
>> >> start pulling off the beadboard panel on the bottom of the rafters
>or
>> >> cutting into stuff to get at it. H.
>> >>
>> >> The bees are really upset now. He’s been using a shop vac setup to
>> >suck
>> >> them out but they keep boiling out from up in there. He’s got a
>> >goodly
>> >> amount sucked into a bucket now. Trying to get more. Might need to
>> >get
>> >> his buddy over to help.
>> >>
>> >> I’m sitting here on the porch watching not too far away, they are
>> >pretty
>> >> much ignoring me which is good.
>> >>
>> >> He figures they have been up in there a long time. Funny as I
>never
>> >> noticed them until a few weeks ago.  They are amazing though.
>> >>
>> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So did you have the pieces that broke out of the bumper?  or use some 
other plastic for filler?


On 6/15/2019 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

No pictures from the back where you could see the stainless mesh, but you’ll 
get the idea.

http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html

-D



On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.

Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering iron 
with a big flat tip on it.

Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to remove 
it.

Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless steel 
mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a unit, 
stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get to all of 
it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but got most of 
it.

Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got it 
all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. I 
guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but for 
now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look.

Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can see where this would work for a big crack in a valance or something like 
that, but trying to reconstruct a hole like I have isn’t really realistic. That 
and I can also see where the heat gun approach for repairing plastic is far 
superior to the oversize soldering iron approach. The oversize soldering iron 
method works, but it’s slow. If you have a large crack or area to cover, it’s 
going to take you a while.

I’m wondering if I can use my heat gun to do this…

-D

 
> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> I like the black plastic,as is.  conveys a certain attitude.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 8:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> No pictures from the back where you could see the stainless mesh, but you’ll 
> get the idea.
> 
> http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
> > 
> > Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering 
> > iron with a big flat tip on it.
> > 
> > Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to 
> > remove it.
> > 
> > Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
> > Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless 
> > steel mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a 
> > unit, stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get 
> > to all of it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but 
> > got most of it.
> > 
> > Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got 
> > it all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. 
> > I guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but 
> > for now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look. 
> > 
> > Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I would like to see some pics of the progress on it as well 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
> 
> Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering iron 
> with a big flat tip on it.
> 
> Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to 
> remove it.
> 
> Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
> Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless steel 
> mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a unit, 
> stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get to all of 
> it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but got most of 
> it.
> 
> Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got it 
> all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. I 
> guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but for 
> now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look. 
> 
> Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I like the black plastic,as is.  conveys a certain attitude.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 8:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> No pictures from the back where you could see the stainless mesh, but
> you’ll get the idea.
>
> http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
> >
> > Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering
> iron with a big flat tip on it.
> >
> > Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to
> remove it.
> >
> > Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on
> it. Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless
> steel mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a
> unit, stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get
> to all of it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but
> got most of it.
> >
> > Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I
> got it all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping
> hole. I guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle
> can, but for now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a
> Frankenstein look.
> >
> > Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Crude but effective. Had I desired to be a bit more careful about it I’m sure I 
could have made it look better and be more of a candidate for sanding and 
painting.

However, this was great practice for repairing the bumper on my S210. I bumped 
into someone a year or so ago when I crossed the center line in a curve and 
caught my right rear mudflap on their rear wheel. Scared the heck out of me, 
the other driver bolted. No doubt because they probably didn’t have insurance.

I have the mud flap (good thing - it’s a rare OE mudflap from Germany) with the 
piece of bumper still attached. It’s the leading edge of the rear wheel well 
where the bumper comes up to the wheel well. I’m pretty sure I can get behind 
it without a lot of effort with the wheel removed. If I can fix this it will be 
a big win, as I won’t have to replace an otherwise good bumper.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very cool. Maybe I should try that on the $500E300 to get the front valance 
> repaired, somewhat. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No pictures from the back where you could see the stainless mesh, but you’ll 
>> get the idea.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
>>> 
>>> Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering 
>>> iron with a big flat tip on it.
>>> 
>>> Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to 
>>> remove it.
>>> 
>>> Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
>>> Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless 
>>> steel mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a 
>>> unit, stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get 
>>> to all of it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but 
>>> got most of it.
>>> 
>>> Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got 
>>> it all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. 
>>> I guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but 
>>> for now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look. 
>>> 
>>> Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] EPC

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah it has airmatic but the list doesn’t have part #30 listed. Just lists #10. 
 I’ll look at it more closely tomorrow, and put in the VIN 

--R
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You need to run your VIN to see if your car has code 489 (airmatic) and if 
> yes, then you buy part #30. Part #10 has "-489" after the name, the negative 
> sign means "not" for cars with code 489.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
>> On June 15, 2019 12:54:30 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Was looking at the EPC link Dan sent to see what parts would fit the
>> air 
>> shocks on the 03 $500E500,  211.070  which year cars might provide
>> donor 
>> parts (E, S, CL, whatever) and here it shows the parts for the fronts
>> 
>> http://mbepc.net/1/fg/e/64u/211070/0/32/054
>> 
>> I can't figure out how it works.  it shows the standard shocks as #10 
>> and lists 4 part numbers, but then it says they are
>> 
>> AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE
>> 
>> but it looks like the air units are #30?
>> 
>> Am I not understanding the schema here?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Trim Clips

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Look here:

http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_SubGroupAction.php?lang=E=BM=1=FG=576=124133=69=060

I think you want # 56.

-D




> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I now see that the end “clip” on the piece of trip in the middle of the door 
> (87 300D) isn’t really a clip at all. It has a screw that goes through the 
> door. Looks like you place the trim in place, slide it ahead then fasten it 
> with the screw-clippy thing. 
> Anyone have one of those taking up valuable garage space? I have a good home 
> for it. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Very cool. Maybe I should try that on the $500E300 to get the front valance 
repaired, somewhat. 

--FT
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No pictures from the back where you could see the stainless mesh, but you’ll 
> get the idea.
> 
> http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
>> 
>> Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering 
>> iron with a big flat tip on it.
>> 
>> Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to 
>> remove it.
>> 
>> Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
>> Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless steel 
>> mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a unit, 
>> stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get to all 
>> of it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but got 
>> most of it.
>> 
>> Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got it 
>> all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. I 
>> guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but 
>> for now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look. 
>> 
>> Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes my bee guy told me about that. He’s hoping these bees do something similar. 

--FT
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In the last few years (since the drought ended) the bees swarmed at least a 
> half dozen times.  As I understand it, the old queen leads the swarm as a new 
> queen is "born" to lead the old hive.  Local beekeepers came and got a couple 
> of the swarms before they "got away" but most of the swarms apparently have 
> new homes somewhere in the wild. I have about 45 forested acres and there are 
> several other large "tree farms" nearby.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
>> Dillon via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 6:55 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
>> 
>> That's a great story Scott!  You should contact your local newspaper to
>> see if they would like to run an article.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On June 15, 2019 6:08:54 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> I tried to get rid of my bees at first.  Gad several bee-keepers come
>>> to get them.  They removed a bunch each time but never got them all.  I
>>> decided to try to kill the ones remaining.  I killed a bunch but many
>>> still remained.  Finally I decided to co-exist.  They are right over
>>> our bedroom (I can hear them buzz) but I sealed that room pretty well
>>> when I painted it and they don't seem to get in.  A few do get into the
>>> upstairs storeroom through cracks between the 1854 floorboards but
>>> that's manageable.  Given the problems bees have had lately I'm glad
>>> some have a safe place.
>>> 
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 Subject: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
 
 After my neighbor got sorted out on his anaphylactic reaction to the
>>> bee
 sting the other day he’s back and working on the hive. He pulled out
>>> a
 coupla combs (11 visible)and could see and feel a lot more way up in
 there. He has determined it goes up into the rafters a lot, the honey
>>> is
 up in there. He thinks it’s huge maybe 10-15 lb or more (most he sees
 are like 2-3lb), the queen is up in there. Maybe I will get some
>>> honey
 out of it!
 
 He’s trying to figure out how to get it dealt with, we might have to
 start pulling off the beadboard panel on the bottom of the rafters or
 cutting into stuff to get at it. H.
 
 The bees are really upset now. He’s been using a shop vac setup to
>>> suck
 them out but they keep boiling out from up in there. He’s got a
>>> goodly
 amount sucked into a bucket now. Trying to get more. Might need to
>>> get
 his buddy over to help.
 
 I’m sitting here on the porch watching not too far away, they are
>>> pretty
 much ignoring me which is good.
 
 He figures they have been up in there a long time. Funny as I never
 noticed them until a few weeks ago.  They are amazing though.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No pictures from the back where you could see the stainless mesh, but you’ll 
get the idea.

http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html

-D


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
> 
> Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering iron 
> with a big flat tip on it.
> 
> Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to 
> remove it.
> 
> Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
> Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless steel 
> mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a unit, 
> stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get to all of 
> it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but got most of 
> it.
> 
> Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got it 
> all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. I 
> guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but for 
> now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look. 
> 
> Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Advance auto parts

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I think AA will price match. You might also be able to get the coupon discount 

--R
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was going to order shocks for the Suburban using a 25% off code, but even 
> with that Amazon had them about $50 cheaper.  The fitment detail which lists 
> that it fits my vehicle has a note that says lifetime warranty.  I did not 
> know Amazon had this.  Anybody know how this works?
> 
>> On 6/15/2019 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> I don't know about ship to home, but in store pickup order info is available 
>> for two years in the store. If you want a 'lifetime warranty', you better 
>> have 'lifetime document retention'.
>> I turned in a 3 year battery for warranty with a printout of my online 
>> invoice when the store no longer had my order in their system and I didn't 
>> have the cash register receipt from when I picked it up.
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Re: [MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Attaboy

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 8:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.
>
> Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering
> iron with a big flat tip on it.
>
> Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to
> remove it.
>
> Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it.
> Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless
> steel mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a
> unit, stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get
> to all of it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but
> got most of it.
>
> Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got
> it all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole.
> I guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but
> for now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look.
>
> Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

In the last few years (since the drought ended) the bees swarmed at least a 
half dozen times.  As I understand it, the old queen leads the swarm as a new 
queen is "born" to lead the old hive.  Local beekeepers came and got a couple 
of the swarms before they "got away" but most of the swarms apparently have new 
homes somewhere in the wild. I have about 45 forested acres and there are 
several other large "tree farms" nearby.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 6:55 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
> 
> That's a great story Scott!  You should contact your local newspaper to
> see if they would like to run an article.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> On June 15, 2019 6:08:54 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >I tried to get rid of my bees at first.  Gad several bee-keepers come
> >to get them.  They removed a bunch each time but never got them all.  I
> >decided to try to kill the ones remaining.  I killed a bunch but many
> >still remained.  Finally I decided to co-exist.  They are right over
> >our bedroom (I can hear them buzz) but I sealed that room pretty well
> >when I painted it and they don't seem to get in.  A few do get into the
> >upstairs storeroom through cracks between the 1854 floorboards but
> >that's manageable.  Given the problems bees have had lately I'm glad
> >some have a safe place.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 3:14 PM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
> >> Subject: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
> >>
> >> After my neighbor got sorted out on his anaphylactic reaction to the
> >bee
> >> sting the other day he’s back and working on the hive. He pulled out
> >a
> >> coupla combs (11 visible)and could see and feel a lot more way up in
> >> there. He has determined it goes up into the rafters a lot, the honey
> >is
> >> up in there. He thinks it’s huge maybe 10-15 lb or more (most he sees
> >> are like 2-3lb), the queen is up in there. Maybe I will get some
> >honey
> >> out of it!
> >>
> >> He’s trying to figure out how to get it dealt with, we might have to
> >> start pulling off the beadboard panel on the bottom of the rafters or
> >> cutting into stuff to get at it. H.
> >>
> >> The bees are really upset now. He’s been using a shop vac setup to
> >suck
> >> them out but they keep boiling out from up in there. He’s got a
> >goodly
> >> amount sucked into a bucket now. Trying to get more. Might need to
> >get
> >> his buddy over to help.
> >>
> >> I’m sitting here on the porch watching not too far away, they are
> >pretty
> >> much ignoring me which is good.
> >>
> >> He figures they have been up in there a long time. Funny as I never
> >> noticed them until a few weeks ago.  They are amazing though.
> >>
> >> --FT
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[MBZ] Plastic Welding Session

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Decided to tackle the ML’s rear bumper gaping hole today.

Went to HF and bought a $16 plastic welding kit. A BIG honking soldering iron 
with a big flat tip on it.

Four screws and the bumper pulls right off. Took me all of 2 minutes to remove 
it.

Took it into the garage and got it set up on stands so I could work on it. 
Pieced together as many pieces of the blowout I could, using stainless steel 
mesh to reinforce and hold them together. Got those put together as a unit, 
stuck them in the hole and tacked everything in place. Couldn’t get to all of 
it from the back because of the reinforcements in the bumper, but got most of 
it.

Started on it from the outside. Slow going, but after about an hour I got it 
all welded up. Isn’t pretty, but I think it’s better than a gaping hole. I 
guess at some point I could sand it off and hit it with a rattle can, but for 
now I’m going to leave it as-is. Gives it sort of a Frankenstein look. 

Pics to follow once I get it back on the car.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Advance auto parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I was going to order shocks for the Suburban using a 25% off code, but 
even with that Amazon had them about $50 cheaper.  The fitment detail 
which lists that it fits my vehicle has a note that says lifetime 
warranty.  I did not know Amazon had this.  Anybody know how this works?


On 6/15/2019 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know about ship to home, but in store pickup order info is available 
for two years in the store. If you want a 'lifetime warranty', you better have 
'lifetime document retention'.
I turned in a 3 year battery for warranty with a printout of my online invoice 
when the store no longer had my order in their system and I didn't have the 
cash register receipt from when I picked it up.

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Re: [MBZ] Advance auto parts

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I don't know about ship to home, but in store pickup order info is available 
for two years in the store. If you want a 'lifetime warranty', you better have 
'lifetime document retention'. 
I turned in a 3 year battery for warranty with a printout of my online invoice 
when the store no longer had my order in their system and I didn't have the 
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[MBZ] Advance auto parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

 I know some of you folks order a lot of items from them.  If an item 
has a lifetime warranty, or any warranty for that matter, if it is 
ordered online for pickup in store, or ordered online and shipped to 
home, if you want to return it for replacement can you just take said 
part into a store?  Will they have your info on file or will you have to 
bring the order info with you from the online order?



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Re: [MBZ] DeBenz

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ve been watching the utuber vids of the guy stuffing a V12 in the 201 
chassis. I’m almost to the end. He’s doing a great job. 

In the last vid he had a 3 liter inline 6 he got for some reason and made 
mention of putting new rods in it and turbos and it could get up to 800 or 
900hp, I forget exactly. But sounds fun. 

--R
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Probably not built on the original engine.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
> 
>> On June 15, 2019 6:36:47 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] DeBenz

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I was going to say take it to Banned, but then saw it was an english car.  They 
are mad as it is, so …

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



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Re: [MBZ] DeBenz

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Probably not built on the original engine.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a great story Scott!  You should contact your local newspaper to see if 
they would like to run an article.
-- 
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Charleston SC

On June 15, 2019 6:08:54 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I tried to get rid of my bees at first.  Gad several bee-keepers come
>to get them.  They removed a bunch each time but never got them all.  I
>decided to try to kill the ones remaining.  I killed a bunch but many
>still remained.  Finally I decided to co-exist.  They are right over
>our bedroom (I can hear them buzz) but I sealed that room pretty well
>when I painted it and they don't seem to get in.  A few do get into the
>upstairs storeroom through cracks between the 1854 floorboards but
>that's manageable.  Given the problems bees have had lately I'm glad
>some have a safe place.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 3:14 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
>> 
>> After my neighbor got sorted out on his anaphylactic reaction to the
>bee
>> sting the other day he’s back and working on the hive. He pulled out
>a
>> coupla combs (11 visible)and could see and feel a lot more way up in
>> there. He has determined it goes up into the rafters a lot, the honey
>is
>> up in there. He thinks it’s huge maybe 10-15 lb or more (most he sees
>> are like 2-3lb), the queen is up in there. Maybe I will get some
>honey
>> out of it!
>> 
>> He’s trying to figure out how to get it dealt with, we might have to
>> start pulling off the beadboard panel on the bottom of the rafters or
>> cutting into stuff to get at it. H.
>> 
>> The bees are really upset now. He’s been using a shop vac setup to
>suck
>> them out but they keep boiling out from up in there. He’s got a
>goodly
>> amount sucked into a bucket now. Trying to get more. Might need to
>get
>> his buddy over to help.
>> 
>> I’m sitting here on the porch watching not too far away, they are
>pretty
>> much ignoring me which is good.
>> 
>> He figures they have been up in there a long time. Funny as I never
>> noticed them until a few weeks ago.  They are amazing though.
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I tried to get rid of my bees at first.  Gad several bee-keepers come to get 
them.  They removed a bunch each time but never got them all.  I decided to try 
to kill the ones remaining.  I killed a bunch but many still remained.  Finally 
I decided to co-exist.  They are right over our bedroom (I can hear them buzz) 
but I sealed that room pretty well when I painted it and they don't seem to get 
in.  A few do get into the upstairs storeroom through cracks between the 1854 
floorboards but that's manageable.  Given the problems bees have had lately I'm 
glad some have a safe place.

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> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 3:14 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Plan Bee
> 
> After my neighbor got sorted out on his anaphylactic reaction to the bee
> sting the other day he’s back and working on the hive. He pulled out a
> coupla combs (11 visible)and could see and feel a lot more way up in
> there. He has determined it goes up into the rafters a lot, the honey is
> up in there. He thinks it’s huge maybe 10-15 lb or more (most he sees
> are like 2-3lb), the queen is up in there. Maybe I will get some honey
> out of it!
> 
> He’s trying to figure out how to get it dealt with, we might have to
> start pulling off the beadboard panel on the bottom of the rafters or
> cutting into stuff to get at it. H.
> 
> The bees are really upset now. He’s been using a shop vac setup to suck
> them out but they keep boiling out from up in there. He’s got a goodly
> amount sucked into a bucket now. Trying to get more. Might need to get
> his buddy over to help.
> 
> I’m sitting here on the porch watching not too far away, they are pretty
> much ignoring me which is good.
> 
> He figures they have been up in there a long time. Funny as I never
> noticed them until a few weeks ago.  They are amazing though.
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Trim Clips

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I know what you’re talking about. I’ll look it up in the EPC in a bit and post 
the part number and a link.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The clip. When I get home I’ll take a pic. 
> 
> Bob R
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>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The clip, or the trim?
>> -- 
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>> Charleston SC
>> 
>>> On June 15, 2019 1:21:35 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I now see that the end “clip” on the piece of trip in the middle of the
>>> door (87 300D) isn’t really a clip at all. It has a screw that goes
>>> through the door. Looks like you place the trim in place, slide it
>>> ahead then fasten it with the screw-clippy thing. 
>>> Anyone have one of those taking up valuable garage space? I have a good
>>> home for it. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Trim Clips

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The clip. When I get home I’ll take a pic. 

Bob R

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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The clip, or the trim?
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
> 
>> On June 15, 2019 1:21:35 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I now see that the end “clip” on the piece of trip in the middle of the
>> door (87 300D) isn’t really a clip at all. It has a screw that goes
>> through the door. Looks like you place the trim in place, slide it
>> ahead then fasten it with the screw-clippy thing. 
>> Anyone have one of those taking up valuable garage space? I have a good
>> home for it. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] truck shocks

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea about as frustrating as looking for a non cracked 124 turn signal lens that 
has to be around here somewhere. 

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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:16:03 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I guess I won’t be doing any shocks today. Both sets for the read
>> appear to be the same as what is on the truck. I wanted to be sure so I
>> looked up the shocks in rock auto and other places and my 2500 calls
>> for a different part number. The part numbers I have nearest I call
>> tell fit 1500 and 3500 but not 2500 for some reason. 
> 
> Frustrating, isn't it?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bought my lottery ticket this morning

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice car, but those wheels look cheesy.
-- 
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On June 15, 2019 1:44:31 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>
>A more affordable vehicle is:
>
>https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-mercedes-benz-e60-renntech/
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 220S convertible at cars/coffee this morning

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No, an Adenauer is the model prior to the Ponton. Close, though.

I think the Ponton cabriolet is far better looking than the Adenauer cabriolet.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Izat called an Adenauer?
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
> 
> On June 15, 2019 1:09:34 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> It had a few rust bubbles on the body, the interior was a bit worn, it
>> wasn’t a trailer queen which I kinda was drawn to. 
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[MBZ] OT Plan Bee

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

After my neighbor got sorted out on his anaphylactic reaction to the bee sting 
the other day he’s back and working on the hive. He pulled out a coupla combs 
(11 visible)and could see and feel a lot more way up in there. He has 
determined it goes up into the rafters a lot, the honey is up in there. He 
thinks it’s huge maybe 10-15 lb or more (most he sees are like 2-3lb), the 
queen is up in there. Maybe I will get some honey out of it!

He’s trying to figure out how to get it dealt with, we might have to start 
pulling off the beadboard panel on the bottom of the rafters or cutting into 
stuff to get at it. H. 

The bees are really upset now. He’s been using a shop vac setup to suck them 
out but they keep boiling out from up in there. He’s got a goodly amount sucked 
into a bucket now. Trying to get more. Might need to get his buddy over to 
help. 

I’m sitting here on the porch watching not too far away, they are pretty much 
ignoring me which is good. 

He figures they have been up in there a long time. Funny as I never noticed 
them until a few weeks ago.  They are amazing though. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 antenna

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That is correct for the mast, it's a mechanical connection established once the 
antenna is in place.  Something else is wrong.
-- 
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On June 15, 2019 2:24:41 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Yes it worked before. I always thought simply feeding it in magically
>made the connection. 
>
>Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] 220S convertible at cars/coffee this morning

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Izat called an Adenauer?
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On June 15, 2019 1:09:34 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>It had a few rust bubbles on the body, the interior was a bit worn, it
>wasn’t a trailer queen which I kinda was drawn to. 

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Trim Clips

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

The clip, or the trim?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On June 15, 2019 1:21:35 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I now see that the end “clip” on the piece of trip in the middle of the
>door (87 300D) isn’t really a clip at all. It has a screw that goes
>through the door. Looks like you place the trim in place, slide it
>ahead then fasten it with the screw-clippy thing. 
>Anyone have one of those taking up valuable garage space? I have a good
>home for it. 
>
>Bob R
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 antenna

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 14:44:30 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It does. The connection is made through the bushing nut that holds the
> mast in place.
> 
> Look in the trunk and make sure there’s a cable that connected to the
> cylinder above the case where the mast goes. Right about where the
> cylinder meets the inside of the fender should be a sort of dog leg
> with a cable connected using an RG type screw connector. Make sure
> that’s tight.

To see what he is talking about, see the picture "W124.Antenna.01.jpg" in
my email of a couple minutes ago.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 220S convertible at cars/coffee this morning

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Some dude rolled up in a Murcielago and that got all the attention. There was a 
Ferrari 360 there too that people were drooling over. I was the only one 
interested in the Benz!  I’d take that over any of the eyetallian stuff or the 
new plastic chebbies there. There was a sweet 66 impala convertible and a blue 
67 Bonneville coupé though...

--R
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What a gorgeous car!
> 
> Greg
> 
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> 
> It had a few rust bubbles on the body, the interior was a bit worn, it wasn’t 
> a trailer queen which I kinda was drawn to. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] truck shocks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:16:03 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I guess I won’t be doing any shocks today. Both sets for the read
> appear to be the same as what is on the truck. I wanted to be sure so I
> looked up the shocks in rock auto and other places and my 2500 calls
> for a different part number. The part numbers I have nearest I call
> tell fit 1500 and 3500 but not 2500 for some reason. 

Frustrating, isn't it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This would be a lot nicer than that ugly SLC

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

My vote for the GWN would be a diesel dually.  But the question is, why, with 
all the new technology, are cars not getting better gas mileage over the past 
two decades.  My ’78 Celica got the same mileage 40 years ago that I can get 
with a new car.

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Jun 14, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Huh?  Were toad "toadas run forever."   No need to replace that, unless it 
> got munched by a moose.  Replace the cheep with a e300D AWD, or if AWD is not 
> needed, read Curt's last post about his VW.   A VW Pissant Dissel will do 
> well, and keep you out of MB to suit SWMBO.
> 
> Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 6/14/19 2:14 PM:
>> I haz a kwextchin
>> 
>> Looking at something to replace either the ten year old yoda of SWMBA or the 
>> junker 20 yo yeep driven by #2 boy, most of the vergasser choices able to 
>> seat four normal adults and one reasonable child are not able to do better 
>> than 22mpg.  The same lame economy cars twenty or more years old were able 
>> to achieve.  Are we relegated to the new electric toys cars that are 
>> stretching to get range or  hybrid and only get a few miles more per gallon?
>> 
>> clay
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 antenna

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It does. The connection is made through the bushing nut that holds the mast in 
place.

Look in the trunk and make sure there’s a cable that connected to the cylinder 
above the case where the mast goes. Right about where the cylinder meets the 
inside of the fender should be a sort of dog leg with a cable connected using 
an RG type screw connector. Make sure that’s tight.

-D

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes it worked before. I always thought simply feeding it in magically made 
> the connection. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:02:38 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> So I fixed my antenna and it goes up and down properly. But it clearly
>>> isn’t connected to the radio. What did I forget to do?
>> 
>> Did it work before?
>> 
>> You can remove the left plastic cover in the trunk and get access to the
>> antenna mechanism to see if the cable to the radio is connected to the
>> antenna.
>> 
>> I don't know how to check to see if the cable is connected to the radio.
>> Someone else will have to chime in.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] EPC

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You need to run your VIN to see if your car has code 489 (airmatic) and if yes, 
then you buy part #30. Part #10 has "-489" after the name, the negative sign 
means "not" for cars with code 489.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On June 15, 2019 12:54:30 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Was looking at the EPC link Dan sent to see what parts would fit the
>air 
>shocks on the 03 $500E500,  211.070  which year cars might provide
>donor 
>parts (E, S, CL, whatever) and here it shows the parts for the fronts
>
>http://mbepc.net/1/fg/e/64u/211070/0/32/054
>
>I can't figure out how it works.  it shows the standard shocks as #10 
>and lists 4 part numbers, but then it says they are
>
>AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE
>
>but it looks like the air units are #30?
>
>Am I not understanding the schema here?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bought my lottery ticket this morning

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’d buy that one too

--FT
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 12:25:24 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-mercedes-benz-unimog-u500/
> 
> 
> A more affordable vehicle is:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-mercedes-benz-e60-renntech/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 antenna

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yes it worked before. I always thought simply feeding it in magically made the 
connection. 

Bob R

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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:02:38 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> So I fixed my antenna and it goes up and down properly. But it clearly
>> isn’t connected to the radio. What did I forget to do?
> 
> Did it work before?
> 
> You can remove the left plastic cover in the trunk and get access to the
> antenna mechanism to see if the cable to the radio is connected to the
> antenna.
> 
> I don't know how to check to see if the cable is connected to the radio.
> Someone else will have to chime in.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] truck shocks

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I guess I won’t be doing any shocks today. Both sets for the read appear to be 
the same as what is on the truck. I wanted to be sure so I looked up the shocks 
in rock auto and other places and my 2500 calls for a different part number. 
The part numbers I have nearest I call tell fit 1500 and 3500 but not 2500 for 
some reason. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Suburban needs shocks badly.  I have 2 sets of shocks that I have had for 
> a long time on the shelf.  IIRC one set is for the Duramax, and the other set 
> was for a former Suburban I had that I never installed them on. When I got to 
> looking it appears the rear shocks are correct, but both sets of shocks 
> appear to be for the Duramax as they do not have the correct upper mount.  
> So, I guess I can go ahead and replace the rears and do the front when I 
> order them and they arrive, or just wait and do them all at once.  I was 
> hoping for a dramatic improvement in the ride but if I do not do them all at 
> the same time it will be less dramatic.  I will probably just go ahead and do 
> the rears today.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 antenna

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:02:38 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So I fixed my antenna and it goes up and down properly. But it clearly
> isn’t connected to the radio. What did I forget to do?

Did it work before?

You can remove the left plastic cover in the trunk and get access to the
antenna mechanism to see if the cable to the radio is connected to the
antenna.

I don't know how to check to see if the cable is connected to the radio.
Someone else will have to chime in.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bought my lottery ticket this morning

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 12:25:24 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > 
> > 
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-mercedes-benz-unimog-u500/


A more affordable vehicle is:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-mercedes-benz-e60-renntech/


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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 220S convertible at cars/coffee this morning

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

What a gorgeous car!

Greg

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It had a few rust bubbles on the body, the interior was a bit worn, it wasn’t a 
trailer queen which I kinda was drawn to. 



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[MBZ] truck shocks

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The Suburban needs shocks badly.  I have 2 sets of shocks that I have 
had for a long time on the shelf.  IIRC one set is for the Duramax, and 
the other set was for a former Suburban I had that I never installed 
them on. When I got to looking it appears the rear shocks are correct, 
but both sets of shocks appear to be for the Duramax as they do not have 
the correct upper mount.  So, I guess I can go ahead and replace the 
rears and do the front when I order them and they arrive, or just wait 
and do them all at once.  I was hoping for a dramatic improvement in the 
ride but if I do not do them all at the same time it will be less 
dramatic.  I will probably just go ahead and do the rears today.



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Re: [MBZ] Bought my lottery ticket this morning

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Gots 20's yo.

Greg

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> 
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-mercedes-benz-unimog-u500/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The invoice from automotivetouchup was still in the box with the paint. 
Turns out I bought it a year ago when I bought the ML hood. 
$11.52 to ship six 12oz spray cans via Fedex surepost, which was the slow/cheap 
option.
If they were telling me to wait a week for mixing and shipping and I was in no 
real hurry I wasn't going to pay extra to save a day or two.

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Re: [MBZ] 220S convertible at cars/coffee this morning

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I should clarify - I meant the W111 coupes when I spoke of designs.

Very nice.  Nothing at all wrong with a driver quality car. I prefer them as 
you don’t worry about a little bit of wear and tear if you drive it. A very 
nice example of one of these can easily top $100k.

I never realized the rears of these were so curvy. That’s pretty cool.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> It had a few rust bubbles on the body, the interior was a bit worn, it wasn’t 
> a trailer queen which I kinda was drawn to. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You know, the convertibles are nice cars, but I think the coupes are so much 
>> better looking from a styling/design standpoint. I like the lines a lot 
>> better.
>> 
>> Pictures or it didn’t happen.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Silver, in somewhat original condition with some patina
>>> 
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[MBZ] W124 Door Trim Clips

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I now see that the end “clip” on the piece of trip in the middle of the door 
(87 300D) isn’t really a clip at all. It has a screw that goes through the 
door. Looks like you place the trim in place, slide it ahead then fasten it 
with the screw-clippy thing. 
Anyone have one of those taking up valuable garage space? I have a good home 
for it. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s about right for ground transportation for two cans.

Thanks!

-D

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bought a few cans of stuff, shipping from LA to MI was in the $10-15 range 
> I believe. 
> Can't find the invoice right now. You're closer to bayou country than I am. 
> 
>> On June 15, 2019 at 12:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Mitch, do you recall what they dinged you for shipping on a can of paint?
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Re: [MBZ] Bought my lottery ticket this morning

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ll use some to cure cancer too, whatever Uncle Joe doesn’t take care of. 
Maybe feed some hungry orphans too. After I buy Benzes and such. 

--FT 
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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Good luck. What a noble goal
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 12:26 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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>> > 
>> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-mercedes-benz-unimog-u500/
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Re: [MBZ] Bought my lottery ticket this morning

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Good luck. What a noble goal

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> >
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[MBZ] EPC

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Was looking at the EPC link Dan sent to see what parts would fit the air 
shocks on the 03 $500E500,  211.070  which year cars might provide donor 
parts (E, S, CL, whatever) and here it shows the parts for the fronts


http://mbepc.net/1/fg/e/64u/211070/0/32/054

I can't figure out how it works.  it shows the standard shocks as #10 
and lists 4 part numbers, but then it says they are


AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE

but it looks like the air units are #30?

Am I not understanding the schema here?

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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I bought a few cans of stuff, shipping from LA to MI was in the $10-15 range I 
believe. 
Can't find the invoice right now. You're closer to bayou country than I am. 

> On June 15, 2019 at 12:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mitch, do you recall what they dinged you for shipping on a can of paint?

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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mitch, do you recall what they dinged you for shipping on a can of paint?

I ask because whenever I bought paint from APS/Tower I usually bought two cans, 
as shipping was the same for one as it was for two.

-D



> On Jun 15, 2019, at 10:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> I bought my last batch here, but haven't used it yet so all I can say about 
> them is they delivered when they promised. 
> https://www.automotivetouchup.com/paint-codes/mercedes-benz.htm
> 
> APS/Tower was bought out, I believe Poos was going to check with the new 
> company and see if they did retail sales of rattle cans.
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[MBZ] Bought my lottery ticket this morning

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

> 
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-mercedes-benz-unimog-u500/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you get under it with something thin, like a putty knife, at the top and 
bottom you can carefully lever it up and off the hood.

They’ve used this method of attachment for a while. My SL500 has the same setup 
and it’s pretty easy to remove. Just go in small increments and alternate sides 
and it should come off without too much effort.

-D

 
> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
>> On June 15, 2019 at 11:45 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah, EPC makes it appear that it’s the two pin with the nylon sockets 
>> arrangement
> 
> Thanks. 
> I'll yank it off the old hood and see what I learn from that. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Mitch, looks like this place has the best prices and good reviews.
I'm going to give them a try.

I've also looked at paintscratch.com and expresspaint.com, both are more
expensive.
-
Max
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> about them is they delivered when they promised.
> https://www.automotivetouchup.com/paint-codes/mercedes-benz.htm
>
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[MBZ] W124 antenna

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

So I fixed my antenna and it goes up and down properly. But it clearly isn’t 
connected to the radio. What did I forget to do?

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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

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> On June 15, 2019 at 11:45 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, EPC makes it appear that it’s the two pin with the nylon sockets 
> arrangement

Thanks. 
I'll yank it off the old hood and see what I learn from that. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 220S convertible at cars/coffee this morning

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You know, the convertibles are nice cars, but I think the coupes are so much 
better looking from a styling/design standpoint. I like the lines a lot better.

Pictures or it didn’t happen.

-D



> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Silver, in somewhat original condition with some patina
> 
> -- 
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[MBZ] 220S convertible at cars/coffee this morning

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Silver, in somewhat original condition with some patina

--
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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, EPC makes it appear that it’s the two pin with the nylon sockets 
arrangement:

http://mbepc.net/1/fg/ml/06h/163175/0/88/120

-D


> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
>> On June 15, 2019 at 11:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Haven’t looked for an alternative at this point as I don’t have a need, but 
>> I’ll be watching this thread to see what others have come up with.
> 
> I still need to remove my hood badge to sand/prep/paint the rust around and 
> under it. 
> Do you know how to remove the hood badge from a W163? I looked at the old 
> hood, and you can't really access the back side of the hood where the badge 
> is mounted.
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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ll look, but I’m guessing like a lot of the later model cars that have the 
flat badge, it’s just pressed in place with two pins that stick into some nylon 
sockets in the hood. Get a piece of masking tape on the hood next to it and use 
a putty knife to see if it lifts off. The pins are usually at the 12 and 6 
o’clock positions.

I’ll look at mine in a bit to confirm.

-D

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
>> On June 15, 2019 at 11:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Haven’t looked for an alternative at this point as I don’t have a need, but 
>> I’ll be watching this thread to see what others have come up with.
> 
> I still need to remove my hood badge to sand/prep/paint the rust around and 
> under it. 
> Do you know how to remove the hood badge from a W163? I looked at the old 
> hood, and you can't really access the back side of the hood where the badge 
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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

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> On June 15, 2019 at 11:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Haven’t looked for an alternative at this point as I don’t have a need, but 
> I’ll be watching this thread to see what others have come up with.

I still need to remove my hood badge to sand/prep/paint the rust around and 
under it. 
Do you know how to remove the hood badge from a W163? I looked at the old hood, 
and you can't really access the back side of the hood where the badge is 
mounted.

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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They were. Sucks. When I made some inquiries to the national firm that bought 
out APS/Tower, I got a response from their local store in Tampa. They wanted 
$40/can for the stuff I had been getting from APS/Tower for $20. Forget that. 
Still 25% more than I paid to APS/Tower including shipping, so it’s not a deal 
to me.

Haven’t looked for an alternative at this point as I don’t have a need, but 
I’ll be watching this thread to see what others have come up with.

-D



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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Source for paint?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I bought my last batch here, but haven't used it yet so all I can say about 
them is they delivered when they promised. 
https://www.automotivetouchup.com/paint-codes/mercedes-benz.htm

APS/Tower was bought out, I believe Poos was going to check with the new 
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[MBZ] Source for paint?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Any recommendations for a place to buy a rattle can of 904 midnight blue?
-- 
Max Dillon
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