Re: [MBZ] 210 door latch not catching
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. I’ll check it out tomorrow --FT Sent from iPhone > On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > My thought was sort of along the lines of, if the part facing you looks worn, > then move it forward towards you a hair to make up for the spot where it > looks a bit worn. > > Randy > >> On 01/10/2019 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> Well it might be but hard to tell. Seems like the catch on the door frame >> is just pushing the little movable latch part enough to engage it, I guess >> that could be due to wear. >> >> -_FT >> >>> On 10/1/19 4:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 01/10/2019 2:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: The driver door latch on this 99 $600E320 is not grabbing when door is closed. If I push the outside just a bit right at the latch it will catch. The mechanism moves freely so that works ok. Which part do I need to adjust, very very slightly, the latch in the door or the catch on the frame? --FT >>> >>> >>> Does it appear to be worn? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT health insurance again
With jobs, I like to say it isnt so much what they pay you as it is what you have to do to get the money. Similarly with health insurance, the cost is only half of what you should consider. The other half is what kind of doctor you get if you get sick. With PPO, you decide where you go. With HMO, someone else decides, and you may or may not like the answer. For routine stuff it is fine. For anything complex or specialized surgical stuff, it's a different story. On Sun, Sep 29, 2019, 7:35 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > One thing I forgot to mention is the employer matches up to $2k HSA > contribution. I need to clarify but I assume that means if I put in at > least $2000 per year they put in $2000 per year for a total of $4000 in > the account per year. > > On 9/29/2019 9:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > I brought this up a while back comparing PPO to HDHP HSA plans. The > > consensus was if you use the plan very much the cost at the end of the > > day would end up being the same. It is now time for me to decide one > > way or the other so I decided to plug the numbers into a spreadsheet > > to see how they would come up. On the spread sheet I basically > > calculated out what the cost per month would be based on premium, HSA > > contributions etc. I also included calculations based on premiums plus > > out of pocket max for the year. That out of pocket max would be the > > number we would hit if we used the plan up to the max. > > > > If my line of thinking is correct, the monthly cost in yellow would be > > what the costs would be if the plan was not used much and includes the > > premiums, deductible, and HSA contributions. Blue would be premium > > plus out of pocket max. This should include the deductible. In that > > case, HSA2 comes out a little cheaper. > > > > If I am looking at this correctly, if the plan is not used that much > > during a particular year, I get to basically bank most of the HSA > > contributions. But, if it happens during a year the plan is used to > > the max, the cost does end up about the same with some savings over > > the PPO with the HSA plans. The one difference that could make a > > difference is the PPO has an embedded deductible and the HSA is non > > embedded. From what I understand is with the embedded if one person > > meets the individual deductible then the plan kicks in after that. > > Once the family amount is met then it kicks in for everyone. With non > > embedded the family amount has to be met before the plan kicks is so > > it almost seems to me the individual amount is irrelevant. All my > > calculations were based on the family deductible and out of pocket max. > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oh boy
On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:21:05 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I want to see that rebuilt into an OM603. I'll bet the Fins could do > it. > https://austin.craigslist.org/pts/d/leander-87-mercedes-om603-inline-6/6977799240.html The page does not work now, and going to the Austin car page does not bring up the car. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 93 (140) Diesel for Sale in Dallas
Yes. Its ,karma (carma) Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 5:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sounds like it needs to come home to Okie Acres. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 1, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I will need to find my SDL a new home in December. Great car for being > a project. Strong OM603 with #14 head and smooth transmission. Drove like > a dream on my round trip to PDX in September. Would be a superb winter > tear down or body shop/welding event > > > > clay > > > > > >> On Sep 30, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Yes that is a rod bender. Totally agree that the SDL would have been a > >> better choice than the 123. > >> - > >> Max > >> Charleston SC > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:31 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> The guy I bought the 123 from also had an 87 300SDL. I wish I would > have > >>> known that. But, he sold it already for $1500. He also has a 93 (140 > >>> chassis) diesel. That’s a rodbender, right? He said the previous > owner > >>> garaged it since 2003. 129K. Transmission was rebuilt two years > ago. Has > >>> new tires and AMG wheels. I’m assuming it has not had the replacement > >>> engine. He wants $3K but says he is open to offers. I’m staying > away > >>> from it. But, for anyone else that has an engine, this could be > decent. > >>> > >>> Donald H. Snook > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oh boy
I want to see that rebuilt into an OM603. I'll bet the Fins could do it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On October 1, 2019 9:49:39 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >87 Mercedes om603 inline 6 > >https://austin.craigslist.org/pts/d/leander-87-mercedes-om603-inline-6/6977799240.html > > >Sent from my iPhone > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oh boy
87 Mercedes om603 inline 6 https://austin.craigslist.org/pts/d/leander-87-mercedes-om603-inline-6/6977799240.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Max car
What's your PayPal Curly, I'll send the $200 plus your usual fee. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On October 1, 2019 4:20:56 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >That's $200 at most > >--FT > >On 10/1/19 3:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> That's an Honest Car. Use it as lawn art until the replacement >engine >> arrives. >> >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 12:02 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> just what Max is lookin fer. Just not in mt. P. >>> >>> >>> >https://wausau.craigslist.org/pts/d/aniwa-1995-mercedes-wagon/6986648271.html >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 13:49:47 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Back to vacuum... > > There is a rather lengthy dissertation I wrote for Richarde’s mbz.org > on adjusting and troubleshooting the vacuum system with the IP and > transmission, I.e., modulator adjustment. If you can’t find it I’ll dig > up a copy. Donald, I will send you offlist the vacuum information I have in a ZIP file. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive Carpet Cleaner
I think it might be more accurate to say "I'm not offended that you're offended", would it not? On Sun, Sep 29, 2019, 11:03 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm offended that you are offended! (by something not offensive!) My > standard response to anybody who is offended. I find their self > centered thoughts offensive! > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 9/29/19 12:39 PM: > > I am offended by the use of the term red neck. > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 fakebook
I have really not paid attention over there in a month or more because I really don’t care. I happened to look at the page today and their so called experts are not really very nice at all. Some new guy posted a video and the expect basically just dogged the guy. Class act there. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
I checked the fuse first thing. It was not bad, but I replaced it anyway. Donald H. Snook > On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > The blower motor is probably blowing the fuse. Uprate the fuse after > replacing the blower motor if the fuse keeps on blowing after that. I have > a spare used PBU if you want to swap it out. > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 1:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> After you start the car try wiggling the ignition switch a little or turn >> is just a small fraction of an inch back toward off and see if it kicks in. >> I have seen a lot of times the switch gets some wear in it and won’t power >> the ACC. Other that that, the pbu is only part of the system. You also have >> the acc and blower control relays behind the globe box. Have to run thru >> the tests to see what the issue is. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Donald Snook wrote: >>> >>> Nothing at all. >>> >>> Donald H. Snook >>> >>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Are you saying nothing happens at all, no blower or it just doesn’t >> blow out of the correct vents? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > > I understand a vacuum leak could have an effect. But, when I try the >> CCU (push button unit) nothing happens. Wouldn’t that be more likely to be >> related to the switch? > > Keep in mind (and I’m just relying on the honesty of the seller), the >> previous owner said he was told he could “hot-wire” the blower to get it to >> work. So, I think he is saying that the failure is in the switch because >> the solder traces have failed therefore nothing is telling the blower to >> come on. > > Is that completely wrong? > > Donald H. Snook > > >> On Sep 30, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin >> wrote: >> >> You have a vacuum leak somewhere >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 93 (140) Diesel for Sale in Dallas
Sounds like it needs to come home to Okie Acres. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will need to find my SDL a new home in December. Great car for being a > project. Strong OM603 with #14 head and smooth transmission. Drove like a > dream on my round trip to PDX in September. Would be a superb winter tear > down or body shop/welding event > > clay > > >> On Sep 30, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yes that is a rod bender. Totally agree that the SDL would have been a >> better choice than the 123. >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:31 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> The guy I bought the 123 from also had an 87 300SDL. I wish I would have >>> known that. But, he sold it already for $1500. He also has a 93 (140 >>> chassis) diesel. That’s a rodbender, right? He said the previous owner >>> garaged it since 2003. 129K. Transmission was rebuilt two years ago. Has >>> new tires and AMG wheels. I’m assuming it has not had the replacement >>> engine. He wants $3K but says he is open to offers. I’m staying away >>> from it. But, for anyone else that has an engine, this could be decent. >>> >>> Donald H. Snook > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 door latch not catching
My thought was sort of along the lines of, if the part facing you looks worn, then move it forward towards you a hair to make up for the spot where it looks a bit worn. Randy On 01/10/2019 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Well it might be but hard to tell. Seems like the catch on the door frame is just pushing the little movable latch part enough to engage it, I guess that could be due to wear. -_FT On 10/1/19 4:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 01/10/2019 2:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: The driver door latch on this 99 $600E320 is not grabbing when door is closed. If I push the outside just a bit right at the latch it will catch. The mechanism moves freely so that works ok. Which part do I need to adjust, very very slightly, the latch in the door or the catch on the frame? --FT Does it appear to be worn? Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 door latch not catching
Well it might be but hard to tell. Seems like the catch on the door frame is just pushing the little movable latch part enough to engage it, I guess that could be due to wear. -_FT On 10/1/19 4:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 01/10/2019 2:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: The driver door latch on this 99 $600E320 is not grabbing when door is closed. If I push the outside just a bit right at the latch it will catch. The mechanism moves freely so that works ok. Which part do I need to adjust, very very slightly, the latch in the door or the catch on the frame? --FT Does it appear to be worn? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 door latch not catching
On 01/10/2019 2:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: The driver door latch on this 99 $600E320 is not grabbing when door is closed. If I push the outside just a bit right at the latch it will catch. The mechanism moves freely so that works ok. Which part do I need to adjust, very very slightly, the latch in the door or the catch on the frame? --FT Does it appear to be worn? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 93 (140) Diesel for Sale in Dallas
I will need to find my SDL a new home in December. Great car for being a project. Strong OM603 with #14 head and smooth transmission. Drove like a dream on my round trip to PDX in September. Would be a superb winter tear down or body shop/welding event clay > On Sep 30, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes that is a rod bender. Totally agree that the SDL would have been a > better choice than the 123. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:31 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The guy I bought the 123 from also had an 87 300SDL. I wish I would have >> known that. But, he sold it already for $1500. He also has a 93 (140 >> chassis) diesel. That’s a rodbender, right? He said the previous owner >> garaged it since 2003. 129K. Transmission was rebuilt two years ago. Has >> new tires and AMG wheels. I’m assuming it has not had the replacement >> engine. He wants $3K but says he is open to offers. I’m staying away >> from it. But, for anyone else that has an engine, this could be decent. >> >> Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive Carpet Cleaner
Gerry, Peroxide in a weak solution does a superior job of attacking mold and mildew. 10:1 with H2O. Spray and scrub the surfaces over a bunch of weeks and it will take the smell, spores and active cultures. Weak enough that it does no damage at all to the fabrics or other surfaces. Safe for leather and MBTex, as well as carpet and seat belts. I have seen no damage using this for the past five years. clay > On Sep 29, 2019, at 4:21 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's interesting about the peroxide and baking soda. > > I'm getting ready to try and remove a coating of mold from inside the '83 > 300D which apparently got enough water inside during the recent blowing rains > to make it humid enough that the whole interior was coated with white mold. > It hasn't been on a long time and wipes off with a little elbow grease fairly > easily using 409. > > Internet websites say that peroxide is the best mold killer, and a solution > of one cup of borax powder in a gallon of water, sprayed or wiped on and left > to dry will prevent future mold growth. > The only concern is whether or not the peroxide or the borax solution will > bleach or damage the blue MBtex. > Anyone had experience using these chemicals on MBtex? > Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember Clay's Poleizi car?
Jewish old farts who think German = NAZI? Mitch. > On October 1, 2019 at 4:18 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > ?? Clay wrote: "The hebrew national neighbors are the sort to get all in > an uproar. Somehow it is a symbol on Nazi unrest in the hood. I should > think they would be more afeared of the roving zombie horde of drug > infested vagrants breaking into their homes and stealing their oxy." > > Want to explain this statement a bit more? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Addition
My youngest is wasting his mother’s retirement funds at a liberal private college. Thinks his degree will be in computers. He knows nothing about the hardware and less about software. He does play computer games. The level of difficulty his 200 level comp sci class achieves does not rival the ASCII dot matrix picture code the children in 1979 were conjuring up. I am fairly certain the current textbook is meant for coloring and coding is to be done in crayons. clay > On Sep 28, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Some kids are college material and some aren't. IMO, it's criminal to conn a > kid into running up tens of thousands of student loans to "study" useless > stuff that will not make them employable. > > I think there are two systemic failures in the current US educational > establishment: the kids never learn to deal with failure and they never learn > to think. > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Rick> Knoble via Mercedes >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Addition >> >> Awesome! That is one of my biggest gripes is putting a kid in college that >> doesn't belong there. (I did) There is no shame in having a trade, although >> some white collar workers, and elite politicians may believe otherwise. He >> gets >> to work with his mind and his hands. Plus, he will make six figures, if he so >> desires. Well done dad! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Floyd's next car
I remember seeing one of those in the lake when I was a kid, it did not look like a very good idea given how low it sat in the water. It's kinda like those car planes, there was one I would see driving around occasionally, it was like the size of an Isetta with little go car wheels, and the wings folded along the back. I think it was basically a fiberglass shell on a frame to hold the important bits together, might have been metal, I don't know That thing gave me the creeps though. Later on when I worked summers at the airport some of the guys told me they had seen it flying, and had similar views on its airworthiness. --FT On 10/1/19 3:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I wonder how stable it is in the water. Not a lot of freeboard. Don't think I would want to be in it in rough water. Randy Just in time for the next inevitable flooding event. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-amphicar-model-770-4/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-10-01 ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Max car
That's $200 at most --FT On 10/1/19 3:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: That's an Honest Car. Use it as lawn art until the replacement engine arrives. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 12:02 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: just what Max is lookin fer. Just not in mt. P. https://wausau.craigslist.org/pts/d/aniwa-1995-mercedes-wagon/6986648271.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 door latch not catching
Thanks. It seems to be moving quite freely but I will try some cleaning and lube first before I start moving bits around. --FT On 10/1/19 4:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: First, lube the latch and all moving parts.. then open and close the door several times. Might just be sticky. Then, take a sharp lead pencil and draw a line along the back of the frame latch, to make a reference line for how much you adjust it. [if you still need adjustment].. then, adjust as necessary from the line you just made. Worst case, you can always go back to the line and start over. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 12:56 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The driver door latch on this 99 $600E320 is not grabbing when door is closed. If I push the outside just a bit right at the latch it will catch. The mechanism moves freely so that works ok. Which part do I need to adjust, very very slightly, the latch in the door or the catch on the frame? --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember Clay's Poleizi car?
?? Clay wrote: "The hebrew national neighbors are the sort to get all in an uproar. Somehow it is a symbol on Nazi unrest in the hood. I should think they would be more afeared of the roving zombie horde of drug infested vagrants breaking into their homes and stealing their oxy." Want to explain this statement a bit more? On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:00 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I get no hassles from the pigs for the most part. One Barney Fife got his > skivvies stained, but the rest of the men in blue want to take pix of them > posing with it. > > The hebrew national neighbors are the sort to get all in an uproar. > Somehow it is a symbol on Nazi unrest in the hood. I should think they > would be more afeared of the roving zombie horde of drug infested vagrants > breaking into their homes and stealing their oxy > > clay > > > On Sep 27, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > https://freebeacon.com/national-security/california-probes-chinese-communist-police-impersonators/ > > > > Police in California are investigating at least two cases of people > posing as Chinese police driving cars with markings of the Communist Party > of China's People's Armed Police (PAP). > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 door latch not catching
First, lube the latch and all moving parts.. then open and close the door several times. Might just be sticky. Then, take a sharp lead pencil and draw a line along the back of the frame latch, to make a reference line for how much you adjust it. [if you still need adjustment].. then, adjust as necessary from the line you just made. Worst case, you can always go back to the line and start over. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 12:56 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The driver door latch on this 99 $600E320 is not grabbing when door is > closed. If I push the outside just a bit right at the latch it will catch. > The mechanism moves freely so that works ok. Which part do I need to > adjust, very very slightly, the latch in the door or the catch on the > frame? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember Clay's Poleizi car?
I get no hassles from the pigs for the most part. One Barney Fife got his skivvies stained, but the rest of the men in blue want to take pix of them posing with it. The hebrew national neighbors are the sort to get all in an uproar. Somehow it is a symbol on Nazi unrest in the hood. I should think they would be more afeared of the roving zombie horde of drug infested vagrants breaking into their homes and stealing their oxy clay > On Sep 27, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://freebeacon.com/national-security/california-probes-chinese-communist-police-impersonators/ > > Police in California are investigating at least two cases of people posing as > Chinese police driving cars with markings of the Communist Party of China's > People's Armed Police (PAP). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys
If somebody has some locks they want to donate I'll match them to your key.. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Yes, Curt. Please do. On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 8:01 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Curt' want to use my 300CD for a 123 object lesson on wafers? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 7:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > 123 locks are simplicity itself to work on. The "right" way would be to > > buy a selection of lock wafers to build the correct lock.The expedient > way > > is to use the wafers you have and a small file to make them work. IIRC > > theres like 8 wafers in there, 123s aren't exactly high profile targets > for > > theft, if you had 4 wafers that'd be plenty to dissuade normal thieves. > > Actually a couple junkyard locks would provide you with plenty of wafers > > to mix and match. > > > > I kind of wish I still had a 123, it'd be fun to make a video. > > -Curt > > > > On Monday, September 30, 2019, 11:33:04 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via > > Mercedes wrote: > > > > Correct. What about the door lock(s)? > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: September 30, 2019 10:30 AM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: dhsn...@gmail.com > > Subject: [MBZ] Keys > > > > On this new to me 300D, the ignition key does not unlock the trunk. It > > has the little tiny key. I am guessing the ignition key is the valet > key. > > So, if I ordered a new key based on the VIN, it should also work on the > > trunk lock, right? BUT, if the ignition lock cylinder has been replaced > > previously then a key that I order by VIN number will not work in the > > ignition, right? > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 210 door latch not catching
The driver door latch on this 99 $600E320 is not grabbing when door is closed. If I push the outside just a bit right at the latch it will catch. The mechanism moves freely so that works ok. Which part do I need to adjust, very very slightly, the latch in the door or the catch on the frame? --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Floyd's next car
I wonder how stable it is in the water. Not a lot of freeboard. Don't think I would want to be in it in rough water. Randy Just in time for the next inevitable flooding event. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-amphicar-model-770-4/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-10-01 ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Floyd's next car
Just in time for the next inevitable flooding event. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-amphicar-model-770-4/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-10-01 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Max car
That's an Honest Car. Use it as lawn art until the replacement engine arrives. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 12:02 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > just what Max is lookin fer. Just not in mt. P. > > > https://wausau.craigslist.org/pts/d/aniwa-1995-mercedes-wagon/6986648271.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
The blower motor is probably blowing the fuse. Uprate the fuse after replacing the blower motor if the fuse keeps on blowing after that. I have a spare used PBU if you want to swap it out. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 1:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > After you start the car try wiggling the ignition switch a little or turn > is just a small fraction of an inch back toward off and see if it kicks in. > I have seen a lot of times the switch gets some wear in it and won’t power > the ACC. Other that that, the pbu is only part of the system. You also have > the acc and blower control relays behind the globe box. Have to run thru > the tests to see what the issue is. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > > > > Nothing at all. > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > >> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > >> > >> Are you saying nothing happens at all, no blower or it just doesn’t > blow out of the correct vents? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > >>> > >>> I understand a vacuum leak could have an effect. But, when I try the > CCU (push button unit) nothing happens. Wouldn’t that be more likely to be > related to the switch? > >>> > >>> Keep in mind (and I’m just relying on the honesty of the seller), the > previous owner said he was told he could “hot-wire” the blower to get it to > work. So, I think he is saying that the failure is in the switch because > the solder traces have failed therefore nothing is telling the blower to > come on. > >>> > >>> Is that completely wrong? > >>> > >>> Donald H. Snook > >>> > >>> > On Sep 30, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin > wrote: > > You have a vacuum leak somewhere > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys
Yes, Curt. Please do. On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 8:01 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Curt' want to use my 300CD for a 123 object lesson on wafers? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 7:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > 123 locks are simplicity itself to work on. The "right" way would be to > > buy a selection of lock wafers to build the correct lock.The expedient > way > > is to use the wafers you have and a small file to make them work. IIRC > > theres like 8 wafers in there, 123s aren't exactly high profile targets > for > > theft, if you had 4 wafers that'd be plenty to dissuade normal thieves. > > Actually a couple junkyard locks would provide you with plenty of wafers > > to mix and match. > > > > I kind of wish I still had a 123, it'd be fun to make a video. > > -Curt > > > > On Monday, September 30, 2019, 11:33:04 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via > > Mercedes wrote: > > > > Correct. What about the door lock(s)? > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: September 30, 2019 10:30 AM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: dhsn...@gmail.com > > Subject: [MBZ] Keys > > > > On this new to me 300D, the ignition key does not unlock the trunk. It > > has the little tiny key. I am guessing the ignition key is the valet > key. > > So, if I ordered a new key based on the VIN, it should also work on the > > trunk lock, right? BUT, if the ignition lock cylinder has been replaced > > previously then a key that I order by VIN number will not work in the > > ignition, right? > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Wheels and caps?
Yikes! What did they charge for this? I assume your wheels are now fully baked. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 1:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No. I dont think my oven is big enough. > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 10:00 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Karl, did you DIY the refinishing of your 14" alloys? > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:08 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Yeah. I have a set of 14" bundts from my wagon. Just had them > refinished. > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 6:50 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > My new to me 82 300D has much newer wheels on it. They are the 5 hole > > > > wheels that are pretty wide. I can’t decide if I want to put bundts > on > > it > > > > or try the 240D style with wheels and hubcaps. I’m a sucker for the > > > > painted caps since my first MB (71 250) had the painted caps. > > > > > > > > Anyone have wheels and caps that fit? Or a set of bundts? If they > have > > > > good tires mounted on them that might be the best way to go. > > > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel
I don't mind MB Tex, but on a "high end"/limited production model like the CD it probably limits the resale value. For some reason my '83 300TD came with a "luxury package" of options, which included leather interior, rear seat headrests, and fold out child seating in the hatch area. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 1:35 PM Dwight Giles wrote: > Mine has Tex. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 12:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > >> Generally these have a leather interior so I am suspicious. Also, why >> only one photo? >> >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 9:31 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes. I don't have,a garage for the CD i already javhave . I bet book >>> is,14/15K on that. >>> >>> Dwight Giles Jr. >>> Wickford RI >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 9:03 PM Curt Raymond wrote: >>> >>> > If I had a garage for it I'd consider consider buying it and driving it >>> > back. It'd be a great adventure... >>> > >>> > -Curt >>> > >>> > On Monday, September 30, 2019, 8:06:40 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via >>> Mercedes < >>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > I wish it were,Salem MA. I would be on it. >>> > >>> > Dwight Giles Jr. >>> > Wickford RI >>> > >>> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 6:08 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < >>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > What do you guys think of this one? >>> > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR >>> > > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Sent from my iPhone >>> > > ___ >>> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > > >>> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> > > >>> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ___ >>> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
It IS turbocharged. Donald H. Snook > On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:54 AM, OK Don wrote: > > So it's not turbo charged? Then, yes, it will seem very slow compared to > the 300D 2.5 T - that thing was like a rocket powered car relative to the > previous MB Diesels! > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:08 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> what year 300D? I think it was an 82 or so. If so, it sounds like the >> line form the intake manifold to the fender needs to be blown out with >> air. WHil you are at it, blow out/ream out the fitting in the >> manifold. Cheap fix. >> >> You should fix the vacuum system first. some of the acc problems could >> be related to vacuum to the cabin being plugged off. >> >> Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote on 10/1/19 10:54 AM: >>> It’s a 300D. It’s slow. But, not nearly as bad a 240D. The one time I >> drove one of those it felt dangerously slow. Keep in mind, the last MB >> diesel I have driven was my former 124 300D 2.5T and I remember thinking >> back then it was a lot faster then my previous 123 diesel. So, maybe what >> I am experiencing is normal. >>> >>> The thing I keep wondering is if the lack of black smoke means this is >> tuned perfectly (and thus no wasted fuel) or is something wrong and it is >> not getting enough fuel which would mean the reason there is no smoke is >> because it is running TOO lean. That might explain low power and no smoke. >>> >>> One potential wrinkle I experienced last night was that the car seemed >> to run tougher than it did when I drove it back from Texas. I didn’t baby >> it. I wanted to see what it could do. I know the old advice is to drive it >> like you stole it. But, I’m hoping I didn’t drive it a little too hard. >>> >>> Seeing all the vacuum lines is sort of giving me a little PTSD from >> prior 123 experience. :) >>> >>> On another note (which is also enhancing my anxiety), the three closest >> Mercedes/European shops in Memphis have said they do not work on these old >> cars. I was hoping one of these shops had an old guy that would be excited >> to see one of these cars because they are so iconic. >>> >>> I did find one shop in Memphis that has been around forever that I think >> will work on it. >>> >>> Donald H. Snook >>> >>> > On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > I’m wondering about the lack of power. Either I have forgotten how >> slow these really are. Or, there is something wrong. 123 240D? Incredibly slow, as in: feels like there's something wrong. >> At least, mine was. Somebody had backed off the throttle limiter, I made it match (-ish) >> one of the other 123's and that helped a lot. > But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did not downshift. Maybe >> that’s too high for it to go into second? Where are the pips on the speedometer? It shouldn't downshift once >> past the last one. -- Jim >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
After you start the car try wiggling the ignition switch a little or turn is just a small fraction of an inch back toward off and see if it kicks in. I have seen a lot of times the switch gets some wear in it and won’t power the ACC. Other that that, the pbu is only part of the system. You also have the acc and blower control relays behind the globe box. Have to run thru the tests to see what the issue is. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > > Nothing at all. > > Donald H. Snook > > >> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: >> >> Are you saying nothing happens at all, no blower or it just doesn’t blow out >> of the correct vents? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Donald Snook wrote: >>> >>> I understand a vacuum leak could have an effect. But, when I try the CCU >>> (push button unit) nothing happens. Wouldn’t that be more likely to be >>> related to the switch? >>> >>> Keep in mind (and I’m just relying on the honesty of the seller), the >>> previous owner said he was told he could “hot-wire” the blower to get it to >>> work. So, I think he is saying that the failure is in the switch because >>> the solder traces have failed therefore nothing is telling the blower to >>> come on. >>> >>> Is that completely wrong? >>> >>> Donald H. Snook >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: You have a vacuum leak somewhere Sent from my iPhone >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Wheels and caps?
No. I dont think my oven is big enough. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 10:00 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Karl, did you DIY the refinishing of your 14" alloys? > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:08 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Yeah. I have a set of 14" bundts from my wagon. Just had them refinished. > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 6:50 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > My new to me 82 300D has much newer wheels on it. They are the 5 hole > > > wheels that are pretty wide. I can’t decide if I want to put bundts on > it > > > or try the 240D style with wheels and hubcaps. I’m a sucker for the > > > painted caps since my first MB (71 250) had the painted caps. > > > > > > Anyone have wheels and caps that fit? Or a set of bundts? If they have > > > good tires mounted on them that might be the best way to go. > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
Donald, Some suggestions: 1.) Stop. Take a few steps back and stop trying to solve the car’s (perceived) issues collectively. Taking a shotgun approach to a car that is new and unknown to you is rarely productive. 2.) Try to make a list of the issues. Pick one and resolve it, then move to the next one on the list. If you run into a wall with something, move on to the next and circle back when others are resolved. 3.) Assume that everything is messed up. Take whatever the PO told you and forget it, as it will color your opinions regarding what is or isn’t wrong. Start clean with every issue and make no assumptions until you know they’re fact. My rule is to ignore everything the PO said and start from scratch. Rarely will you find someone as knowledgeable as yourself or this group, meaning that what you’re being told by the PO is probably wrong. Observations on my part based on things you’ve said of late: Clean out the boost line from the back of the intake manifold to the vacuum control valve on the firewall and to the IP. I’m betting your lack of power is the classic “no boost” scenario due to a clogged boost line. Find a diagram for the switchover valves and get that sorted. Plug the EGR line with a BB or golf tee. Replace the worn out switchover valve levers that I’m betting are worn away to nothing. They’re pocket change from the dealer. Forget everything the PO told you about the ACC. Check the blower fuse first. It’s undersized and prone to fail. Mercedes has a retrofit kit to relocate the fuse out of the fuse box and use a strip fuse of a higher amperage. I can get the number if you can’t find it in the archives - I’ve posted it here a couple of times, cost is around $20 from the dealer. With the fuse sorted, check the system for operation. Some good suggestions on the blower motor in the event it needs brushes. The ACC controller rarely fails, ignore it for now. Your push button unit may need to be resoldered, if you’re handy with a soldering iron it’s an easy fix. Back to vacuum... There is a rather lengthy dissertation I wrote for Richarde’s mbz.org on adjusting and troubleshooting the vacuum system with the IP and transmission, I.e., modulator adjustment. If you can’t find it I’ll dig up a copy. Small steps, man. It’s like eating an elephant - lots and lots of small bites. -D > On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > You can't drive it too hard, or rather if you do what broke was about to fail > anyway. A 240D has to be driven 100% almost all of the time, a 300D turbo is > babied by comparison. > I suspect your accelerator pedal isn't making the rack travel all the way. I > had that happen to my second 240D, theres a dingus that takes the back and > forth motion from the firewall and makes it up and down motion at the rack > that had gotten loose and was only moving about halfway. > > RE: smoke, you should be able to see if at dusk with headlights behind you, > no smoke when pushing hard means you're not really pushing hard... > Have you put any magic goop in it? A diesel purge treatment is probably in > order... > -Curt > >On Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 11:55:18 AM EDT, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s a 300D. It’s slow. But, not nearly as bad a 240D. The one time I drove > one of those it felt dangerously slow. Keep in mind, the last MB diesel I > have driven was my former 124 300D 2.5T and I remember thinking back then it > was a lot faster then my previous 123 diesel. So, maybe what I am > experiencing is normal. > > The thing I keep wondering is if the lack of black smoke means this is tuned > perfectly (and thus no wasted fuel) or is something wrong and it is not > getting enough fuel which would mean the reason there is no smoke is because > it is running TOO lean. That might explain low power and no smoke. > > One potential wrinkle I experienced last night was that the car seemed to run > tougher than it did when I drove it back from Texas. I didn’t baby it. I > wanted to see what it could do. I know the old advice is to drive it like you > stole it. But, I’m hoping I didn’t drive it a little too hard. > > Seeing all the vacuum lines is sort of giving me a little PTSD from prior 123 > experience. :) > > On another note (which is also enhancing my anxiety), the three closest > Mercedes/European shops in Memphis have said they do not work on these old > cars. I was hoping one of these shops had an old guy that would be excited > to see one of these cars because they are so iconic. > > I did find one shop in Memphis that has been around forever that I think will > work on it. > > Donald H. Snook > > >> On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jim Cathey http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
My 300D 2.5t was,a rocket 0-60 in ~12/13 seconds. 240D was 22 seconds. Not sure,about OM617 turbo. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 11:55 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It’s a 300D. It’s slow. But, not nearly as bad a 240D. The one time I > drove one of those it felt dangerously slow. Keep in mind, the last MB > diesel I have driven was my former 124 300D 2.5T and I remember thinking > back then it was a lot faster then my previous 123 diesel. So, maybe what > I am experiencing is normal. > > The thing I keep wondering is if the lack of black smoke means this is > tuned perfectly (and thus no wasted fuel) or is something wrong and it is > not getting enough fuel which would mean the reason there is no smoke is > because it is running TOO lean. That might explain low power and no smoke. > > One potential wrinkle I experienced last night was that the car seemed to > run tougher than it did when I drove it back from Texas. I didn’t baby it. > I wanted to see what it could do. I know the old advice is to drive it like > you stole it. But, I’m hoping I didn’t drive it a little too hard. > > Seeing all the vacuum lines is sort of giving me a little PTSD from prior > 123 experience. :) > > On another note (which is also enhancing my anxiety), the three closest > Mercedes/European shops in Memphis have said they do not work on these old > cars. I was hoping one of these shops had an old guy that would be excited > to see one of these cars because they are so iconic. > > I did find one shop in Memphis that has been around forever that I think > will work on it. > > Donald H. Snook > > > > On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > > > > I’m wondering about the lack of power. Either I have forgotten how > slow these really are. Or, there is something wrong. > > > > 123 240D? Incredibly slow, as in: feels like there's something wrong. > At least, mine was. > > Somebody had backed off the throttle limiter, I made it match (-ish) one > of the other 123's > > and that helped a lot. > > > > > But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did not downshift. Maybe > that’s too high for it to go into second? > > > > Where are the pips on the speedometer? It shouldn't downshift once past > the last one. > > > > -- Jim > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel
Mine has Tex. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 12:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Generally these have a leather interior so I am suspicious. Also, why > only one photo? > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 9:31 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yes. I don't have,a garage for the CD i already javhave . I bet book >> is,14/15K on that. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 9:03 PM Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> > If I had a garage for it I'd consider consider buying it and driving it >> > back. It'd be a great adventure... >> > >> > -Curt >> > >> > On Monday, September 30, 2019, 8:06:40 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via >> Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > I wish it were,Salem MA. I would be on it. >> > >> > Dwight Giles Jr. >> > Wickford RI >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 6:08 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > > What do you guys think of this one? >> > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR >> > > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html >> > > >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > ___ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
You can't drive it too hard, or rather if you do what broke was about to fail anyway. A 240D has to be driven 100% almost all of the time, a 300D turbo is babied by comparison. I suspect your accelerator pedal isn't making the rack travel all the way. I had that happen to my second 240D, theres a dingus that takes the back and forth motion from the firewall and makes it up and down motion at the rack that had gotten loose and was only moving about halfway. RE: smoke, you should be able to see if at dusk with headlights behind you, no smoke when pushing hard means you're not really pushing hard... Have you put any magic goop in it? A diesel purge treatment is probably in order... -Curt On Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 11:55:18 AM EDT, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: It’s a 300D. It’s slow. But, not nearly as bad a 240D. The one time I drove one of those it felt dangerously slow. Keep in mind, the last MB diesel I have driven was my former 124 300D 2.5T and I remember thinking back then it was a lot faster then my previous 123 diesel. So, maybe what I am experiencing is normal. The thing I keep wondering is if the lack of black smoke means this is tuned perfectly (and thus no wasted fuel) or is something wrong and it is not getting enough fuel which would mean the reason there is no smoke is because it is running TOO lean. That might explain low power and no smoke. One potential wrinkle I experienced last night was that the car seemed to run tougher than it did when I drove it back from Texas. I didn’t baby it. I wanted to see what it could do. I know the old advice is to drive it like you stole it. But, I’m hoping I didn’t drive it a little too hard. Seeing all the vacuum lines is sort of giving me a little PTSD from prior 123 experience. :) On another note (which is also enhancing my anxiety), the three closest Mercedes/European shops in Memphis have said they do not work on these old cars. I was hoping one of these shops had an old guy that would be excited to see one of these cars because they are so iconic. I did find one shop in Memphis that has been around forever that I think will work on it. Donald H. Snook > On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > > I’m wondering about the lack of power. Either I have forgotten how slow > > these really are. Or, there is something wrong. > > 123 240D? Incredibly slow, as in: feels like there's something wrong. At > least, mine was. > Somebody had backed off the throttle limiter, I made it match (-ish) one of > the other 123's > and that helped a lot. > > > But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did not downshift. Maybe > > that’s too high for it to go into second? > > Where are the pips on the speedometer? It shouldn't downshift once past the > last one. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
Good point. If it’s an 82 it probably doesn’t have the relocated and larger strip fuse for the blower motor. The original fuse may have melted down. -D > On Oct 1, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > CHANGE the FUSES ? (channelling Herr Doktor) > > Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote on 10/1/19 11:15 AM: >> Weird that defrost doesn't work, that is the "failsafe" mode AFAIK. >> >> Allan >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Wheels and caps?
Karl, did you DIY the refinishing of your 14" alloys? On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:08 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah. I have a set of 14" bundts from my wagon. Just had them refinished. > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 6:50 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > My new to me 82 300D has much newer wheels on it. They are the 5 hole > > wheels that are pretty wide. I can’t decide if I want to put bundts on it > > or try the 240D style with wheels and hubcaps. I’m a sucker for the > > painted caps since my first MB (71 250) had the painted caps. > > > > Anyone have wheels and caps that fit? Or a set of bundts? If they have > > good tires mounted on them that might be the best way to go. > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel
Generally these have a leather interior so I am suspicious. Also, why only one photo? On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 9:31 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes. I don't have,a garage for the CD i already javhave . I bet book > is,14/15K on that. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 9:03 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > > > If I had a garage for it I'd consider consider buying it and driving it > > back. It'd be a great adventure... > > > > -Curt > > > > On Monday, September 30, 2019, 8:06:40 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > I wish it were,Salem MA. I would be on it. > > > > Dwight Giles Jr. > > Wickford RI > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 6:08 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > What do you guys think of this one? > > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > > > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard > > > > > > > > > > > > https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
So it's not turbo charged? Then, yes, it will seem very slow compared to the 300D 2.5 T - that thing was like a rocket powered car relative to the previous MB Diesels! On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:08 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > what year 300D? I think it was an 82 or so. If so, it sounds like the > line form the intake manifold to the fender needs to be blown out with > air. WHil you are at it, blow out/ream out the fitting in the > manifold. Cheap fix. > > You should fix the vacuum system first. some of the acc problems could > be related to vacuum to the cabin being plugged off. > > Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote on 10/1/19 10:54 AM: > > It’s a 300D. It’s slow. But, not nearly as bad a 240D. The one time I > drove one of those it felt dangerously slow. Keep in mind, the last MB > diesel I have driven was my former 124 300D 2.5T and I remember thinking > back then it was a lot faster then my previous 123 diesel. So, maybe what > I am experiencing is normal. > > > > The thing I keep wondering is if the lack of black smoke means this is > tuned perfectly (and thus no wasted fuel) or is something wrong and it is > not getting enough fuel which would mean the reason there is no smoke is > because it is running TOO lean. That might explain low power and no smoke. > > > > One potential wrinkle I experienced last night was that the car seemed > to run tougher than it did when I drove it back from Texas. I didn’t baby > it. I wanted to see what it could do. I know the old advice is to drive it > like you stole it. But, I’m hoping I didn’t drive it a little too hard. > > > > Seeing all the vacuum lines is sort of giving me a little PTSD from > prior 123 experience. :) > > > > On another note (which is also enhancing my anxiety), the three closest > Mercedes/European shops in Memphis have said they do not work on these old > cars. I was hoping one of these shops had an old guy that would be excited > to see one of these cars because they are so iconic. > > > > I did find one shop in Memphis that has been around forever that I think > will work on it. > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > >> On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > >> > >>> I’m wondering about the lack of power. Either I have forgotten how > slow these really are. Or, there is something wrong. > >> 123 240D? Incredibly slow, as in: feels like there's something wrong. > At least, mine was. > >> Somebody had backed off the throttle limiter, I made it match (-ish) > one of the other 123's > >> and that helped a lot. > >> > >>> But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did not downshift. Maybe > that’s too high for it to go into second? > >> Where are the pips on the speedometer? It shouldn't downshift once > past the last one. > >> > >> -- Jim > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT electric motor capacitors
That's what I would do - go with the larger cap and not worry about the cover. On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 10:30 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I am starting to think that there is no real > reason why I need to do that. I can seal the opening where the wires go > into the motor housing with a bit of silicon caulking and shrink wrap > the connections to the capacitor. The housing protected the capacitor > from impact damage and prevented careless folks from touching the > contacts but since the motor is normally inaccessible unless one > deliberately opens the hatch, I doubt that the protective bump is truly > necessary. I can pretty readily strap the capacitor to the motor housing. > > Anyone think that is a bad idea? If so, why? > > Randy > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
CHANGE the FUSES ? (channelling Herr Doktor) Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote on 10/1/19 11:15 AM: Weird that defrost doesn't work, that is the "failsafe" mode AFAIK. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
The solder joints on the control unit circuit board can crack. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you can reflow those. I did that on my W123 to resolve some ACC wonkiness (been long enough that I don't really remember the symptoms though). Weird that defrost doesn't work, that is the "failsafe" mode AFAIK. Allan Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > The vent doesn’t work at all — ac or vent or defrost. The seller installed a > new (reman) blower motor and claimed that the problem was in the CCU. Anyone > have one to sell? I found some on eBay. Feel free to reply here or message > me directly at: > > donald.sn...@fedex.com > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
what year 300D? I think it was an 82 or so. If so, it sounds like the line form the intake manifold to the fender needs to be blown out with air. WHil you are at it, blow out/ream out the fitting in the manifold. Cheap fix. You should fix the vacuum system first. some of the acc problems could be related to vacuum to the cabin being plugged off. Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote on 10/1/19 10:54 AM: It’s a 300D. It’s slow. But, not nearly as bad a 240D. The one time I drove one of those it felt dangerously slow. Keep in mind, the last MB diesel I have driven was my former 124 300D 2.5T and I remember thinking back then it was a lot faster then my previous 123 diesel. So, maybe what I am experiencing is normal. The thing I keep wondering is if the lack of black smoke means this is tuned perfectly (and thus no wasted fuel) or is something wrong and it is not getting enough fuel which would mean the reason there is no smoke is because it is running TOO lean. That might explain low power and no smoke. One potential wrinkle I experienced last night was that the car seemed to run tougher than it did when I drove it back from Texas. I didn’t baby it. I wanted to see what it could do. I know the old advice is to drive it like you stole it. But, I’m hoping I didn’t drive it a little too hard. Seeing all the vacuum lines is sort of giving me a little PTSD from prior 123 experience. :) On another note (which is also enhancing my anxiety), the three closest Mercedes/European shops in Memphis have said they do not work on these old cars. I was hoping one of these shops had an old guy that would be excited to see one of these cars because they are so iconic. I did find one shop in Memphis that has been around forever that I think will work on it. Donald H. Snook On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I’m wondering about the lack of power. Either I have forgotten how slow these really are. Or, there is something wrong. 123 240D? Incredibly slow, as in: feels like there's something wrong. At least, mine was. Somebody had backed off the throttle limiter, I made it match (-ish) one of the other 123's and that helped a lot. But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did not downshift. Maybe that’s too high for it to go into second? Where are the pips on the speedometer? It shouldn't downshift once past the last one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
Would this be of any help? https://youtu.be/hHkvi1o2U2g Rory No MBZ yet! On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:59 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I understand a vacuum leak could have an effect. But, when I try the CCU > (push button unit) nothing happens. Wouldn’t that be more likely to be > related to the switch? > > Keep in mind (and I’m just relying on the honesty of the seller), the > previous owner said he was told he could “hot-wire” the blower to get it to > work. So, I think he is saying that the failure is in the switch because > the solder traces have failed therefore nothing is telling the blower to > come on. > > Is that completely wrong? > > Donald H. Snook > > > > On Sep 30, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > > > You have a vacuum leak somewhere > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Max car
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Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
I understand a vacuum leak could have an effect. But, when I try the CCU (push button unit) nothing happens. Wouldn’t that be more likely to be related to the switch? Keep in mind (and I’m just relying on the honesty of the seller), the previous owner said he was told he could “hot-wire” the blower to get it to work. So, I think he is saying that the failure is in the switch because the solder traces have failed therefore nothing is telling the blower to come on. Is that completely wrong? Donald H. Snook > On Sep 30, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > You have a vacuum leak somewhere > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
It’s a 300D. It’s slow. But, not nearly as bad a 240D. The one time I drove one of those it felt dangerously slow. Keep in mind, the last MB diesel I have driven was my former 124 300D 2.5T and I remember thinking back then it was a lot faster then my previous 123 diesel. So, maybe what I am experiencing is normal. The thing I keep wondering is if the lack of black smoke means this is tuned perfectly (and thus no wasted fuel) or is something wrong and it is not getting enough fuel which would mean the reason there is no smoke is because it is running TOO lean. That might explain low power and no smoke. One potential wrinkle I experienced last night was that the car seemed to run tougher than it did when I drove it back from Texas. I didn’t baby it. I wanted to see what it could do. I know the old advice is to drive it like you stole it. But, I’m hoping I didn’t drive it a little too hard. Seeing all the vacuum lines is sort of giving me a little PTSD from prior 123 experience. :) On another note (which is also enhancing my anxiety), the three closest Mercedes/European shops in Memphis have said they do not work on these old cars. I was hoping one of these shops had an old guy that would be excited to see one of these cars because they are so iconic. I did find one shop in Memphis that has been around forever that I think will work on it. Donald H. Snook > On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > > I’m wondering about the lack of power. Either I have forgotten how slow > > these really are. Or, there is something wrong. > > 123 240D? Incredibly slow, as in: feels like there's something wrong. At > least, mine was. > Somebody had backed off the throttle limiter, I made it match (-ish) one of > the other 123's > and that helped a lot. > > > But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did not downshift. Maybe > > that’s too high for it to go into second? > > Where are the pips on the speedometer? It shouldn't downshift once past the > last one. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT electric motor capacitors
buy the physically bigger cap and stop by a local motor shop. Ask them if you can pick through their pile of scrap to find a cover that will fit. If no luck there, fasten it to the motor and hook up the wires. Use shrink insulation and seal the motor as you planned. I've seen worse in the real world. Sometimes the cap just is left dangling by the wires. It is quite possible the mfgr shaved insulation inside the old cap to make it smaller. Assuming the larger one has more insulation, it should last longer. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 10/1/19 10:29 AM: Way off topic here but some of you folks appear to know much more about various things than I do, so I am going to tell you a story and seek advice. Sunday afternoon, I was ripping some 5/8 plywood when my table saw started to smell like melted plastic. I cannot say I heard anything unusual but with the dust collector howling and ear muffs on, I likely wouldn't. The saw is a 10" Delta hybrid or whatever they called them. It has a cabinet that goes to the floor but is not the Unisaw. The motor is inside the cabinet so one must use a dust collector or plan on killing the motor as it is not totally sealed. It is a Chinese made saw and motor - probably 10 to 15 years old. Old enough that it predates Delta's demise and rebirth in recent years but not old enough to be made in North America. I shut the saw down and opened the side hatch. The motor is 1 3/4 HP and has 2 housings for capacitors. A longer and a shorter. The longer one felt fine and the shorter one felt hot. Based upon my internet research, it appears that the shorter one is the run capacitor and the longer one is the start capacitor. After supper, I removed the motor, which is a miserable job. The motor is heavy and the bracket is spring loaded to hold it down to keep tension on the drive belt. My primary concern was not so much getting it out but trying to set myself up so it would be easier to put it back in. I had some pieces of 1 1/2 blue foam insulation and I used those to block the motor up. I think I will be able to get the motor back against the bracket and get a couple of bolts started when I put it back. Once I pulled it out and removed the housing over the shorter capacitor it was obvious that the capacitor had burned out. The plastic cap over the end was melted along with the wires. So, at a minimum, I need a capacitor. It is 35 MFD 250V so nothing too odd. My problem has been that it is not easy to find one small enough to fit back under the housing. There are lots of them available but they mostly are larger. I have tracked down what appears to be the right one but I have only found it available by ordering it from China. Unless I want to spring for expensive shipping it may take a couple of weeks or more to get it. My initial thought was that I needed to find one that would permit me to put it back inside the metal cover - mostly because it operates in a dusty environment and I want to keep the motor sealed as much as it was intended to be. However, I am starting to think that there is no real reason why I need to do that. I can seal the opening where the wires go into the motor housing with a bit of silicon caulking and shrink wrap the connections to the capacitor. The housing protected the capacitor from impact damage and prevented careless folks from touching the contacts but since the motor is normally inaccessible unless one deliberately opens the hatch, I doubt that the protective bump is truly necessary. I can pretty readily strap the capacitor to the motor housing. Anyone think that is a bad idea? If so, why? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT electric motor capacitors
That will be OK, cut a plastic bottle or something and tape it over the cap to cover it and keep from getting zapped/dusty/etc. Can you find the part on Delta site or parts catalog? There are some sites that have parts for older woodworking equipment too if you want to try find something similar, but any matching type cap should work. --FT On 10/1/19 11:29 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Way off topic here but some of you folks appear to know much more about various things than I do, so I am going to tell you a story and seek advice. Sunday afternoon, I was ripping some 5/8 plywood when my table saw started to smell like melted plastic. I cannot say I heard anything unusual but with the dust collector howling and ear muffs on, I likely wouldn't. The saw is a 10" Delta hybrid or whatever they called them. It has a cabinet that goes to the floor but is not the Unisaw. The motor is inside the cabinet so one must use a dust collector or plan on killing the motor as it is not totally sealed. It is a Chinese made saw and motor - probably 10 to 15 years old. Old enough that it predates Delta's demise and rebirth in recent years but not old enough to be made in North America. I shut the saw down and opened the side hatch. The motor is 1 3/4 HP and has 2 housings for capacitors. A longer and a shorter. The longer one felt fine and the shorter one felt hot. Based upon my internet research, it appears that the shorter one is the run capacitor and the longer one is the start capacitor. After supper, I removed the motor, which is a miserable job. The motor is heavy and the bracket is spring loaded to hold it down to keep tension on the drive belt. My primary concern was not so much getting it out but trying to set myself up so it would be easier to put it back in. I had some pieces of 1 1/2 blue foam insulation and I used those to block the motor up. I think I will be able to get the motor back against the bracket and get a couple of bolts started when I put it back. Once I pulled it out and removed the housing over the shorter capacitor it was obvious that the capacitor had burned out. The plastic cap over the end was melted along with the wires. So, at a minimum, I need a capacitor. It is 35 MFD 250V so nothing too odd. My problem has been that it is not easy to find one small enough to fit back under the housing. There are lots of them available but they mostly are larger. I have tracked down what appears to be the right one but I have only found it available by ordering it from China. Unless I want to spring for expensive shipping it may take a couple of weeks or more to get it. My initial thought was that I needed to find one that would permit me to put it back inside the metal cover - mostly because it operates in a dusty environment and I want to keep the motor sealed as much as it was intended to be. However, I am starting to think that there is no real reason why I need to do that. I can seal the opening where the wires go into the motor housing with a bit of silicon caulking and shrink wrap the connections to the capacitor. The housing protected the capacitor from impact damage and prevented careless folks from touching the contacts but since the motor is normally inaccessible unless one deliberately opens the hatch, I doubt that the protective bump is truly necessary. I can pretty readily strap the capacitor to the motor housing. Anyone think that is a bad idea? If so, why? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT electric motor capacitors
Way off topic here but some of you folks appear to know much more about various things than I do, so I am going to tell you a story and seek advice. Sunday afternoon, I was ripping some 5/8 plywood when my table saw started to smell like melted plastic. I cannot say I heard anything unusual but with the dust collector howling and ear muffs on, I likely wouldn't. The saw is a 10" Delta hybrid or whatever they called them. It has a cabinet that goes to the floor but is not the Unisaw. The motor is inside the cabinet so one must use a dust collector or plan on killing the motor as it is not totally sealed. It is a Chinese made saw and motor - probably 10 to 15 years old. Old enough that it predates Delta's demise and rebirth in recent years but not old enough to be made in North America. I shut the saw down and opened the side hatch. The motor is 1 3/4 HP and has 2 housings for capacitors. A longer and a shorter. The longer one felt fine and the shorter one felt hot. Based upon my internet research, it appears that the shorter one is the run capacitor and the longer one is the start capacitor. After supper, I removed the motor, which is a miserable job. The motor is heavy and the bracket is spring loaded to hold it down to keep tension on the drive belt. My primary concern was not so much getting it out but trying to set myself up so it would be easier to put it back in. I had some pieces of 1 1/2 blue foam insulation and I used those to block the motor up. I think I will be able to get the motor back against the bracket and get a couple of bolts started when I put it back. Once I pulled it out and removed the housing over the shorter capacitor it was obvious that the capacitor had burned out. The plastic cap over the end was melted along with the wires. So, at a minimum, I need a capacitor. It is 35 MFD 250V so nothing too odd. My problem has been that it is not easy to find one small enough to fit back under the housing. There are lots of them available but they mostly are larger. I have tracked down what appears to be the right one but I have only found it available by ordering it from China. Unless I want to spring for expensive shipping it may take a couple of weeks or more to get it. My initial thought was that I needed to find one that would permit me to put it back inside the metal cover - mostly because it operates in a dusty environment and I want to keep the motor sealed as much as it was intended to be. However, I am starting to think that there is no real reason why I need to do that. I can seal the opening where the wires go into the motor housing with a bit of silicon caulking and shrink wrap the connections to the capacitor. The housing protected the capacitor from impact damage and prevented careless folks from touching the contacts but since the motor is normally inaccessible unless one deliberately opens the hatch, I doubt that the protective bump is truly necessary. I can pretty readily strap the capacitor to the motor housing. Anyone think that is a bad idea? If so, why? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines
> I’m wondering about the lack of power. Either I have forgotten how slow these really are. Or, there is something wrong. 123 240D? Incredibly slow, as in: feels like there's something wrong. At least, mine was. Somebody had backed off the throttle limiter, I made it match (-ish) one of the other 123's and that helped a lot. > But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did not downshift. Maybe that’s too high for it to go into second? Where are the pips on the speedometer? It shouldn't downshift once past the last one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123
Just get a rebuilt one: https://www.programainc.com/item_list.aspx?ma=45333=45678=24661=28 On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:17 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The vent doesn’t work at all — ac or vent or defrost. The seller > installed a new (reman) blower motor and claimed that the problem was in > the CCU. Anyone have one to sell? I found some on eBay. Feel free to > reply here or message me directly at: > > donald.sn...@fedex.com > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
