Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Exactly. The elites shitting on the disadvantaged, the poor and the 
undesirables whilst hypocritically erecting BLM signs in their yards. 

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Racist and elitist agenda against the working class people who are living 
> paycheck to paycheck or just slowing going deeper into debt.  The bottom rung 
> of the populace struggles to survive and the racist elites erect blocks 
> against their survival at every turn.
> 
> A person should be able to effect repairs upon their property and effects 
> without undue hinderance by the ruling class and Karens.  IF you plan on 
> curtailing the lower class from seeking continued survival, just go out and 
> kill them outright and be open about the repression.  Being poor does not 
> look pretty, but there are more people groveling at the bottom of the pile 
> than those who can afford to visit the dealership or pay for a repair that 
> could and should be able to be done at home.
> 
> My home may have been unsightly when I was basking in multiple bottom feeder 
> Benz that were glad to be roadworthy by my own wrenching.  Had I been 
> required to/mandated they be professionally service, there is no way I could 
> have kept any of them driving or available for another owner to love and 
> service them.
> 
> A pox upon California, may it be swallowed by the sea and its populace of 
> elitist be consumed by plague.
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
>> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
>> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
>> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
>> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
>> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
>> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
>> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
>> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
>> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
>> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
>> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
>> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
>> like junkyards.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Zero turn mower

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Also, you can use a reacher to pick up twigs, etc., without leaving the
seat.  The flat deck under your knees can hold a lot of debris until you get
to a place to dump it.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Zero turn mower

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/oil-coming-out-intake-of-v-twin-br
iggs.298464/

ZTR mowers are a blast to mow with. I've had one about ten years. They mow
around obstacles very easily and mow very quickly.


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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Clay via Mercedes]

The current state of civilizations decline confirms to me that analog tech is 
superior to all the whizbang computer gimcracks.  Witness the TX debacle.  A 
home with a wood burning fireplace, and other “old fashion” resources would 
have been an adventure, but not the catastrophic event that engulfed the 
populace.

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Mar 20, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  > writes:
> 
>> I just saw where the Volvo plant in the region here is shutting down 
>> production because they can't get microprocessors. I'm not sure what 
>> that's about, I need to read up on it
> 
> Wonder how that impacts their plans to go to all EVs? I'd guess EVs have
> even more microprocessors than conventional cars, with all the regen and
> battery management.
> 
> The W123 300D is looking better and better.
> 
> Alla


Clay


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Seattle  has become a backwashed P trap of California.   Same lack of laws and 
mindless sheeple trudging toward the slaughter.  The elite take no care of the 
“mandates” though they dutifully muzzle while seen in public.  Today, while 
power washing the vast estate, I saw at least 40 high end cars and must have 
been 100 people of all ages from toddlers to nonagenarians congregate at a 
neighbors home.  The idiot Goobernator and his minions declaim that only 10 
blood relatives in their genetic bubble are allowed to gather.  Not being a 
Karen, I just kept on with my task and sniggered at the hypocrisy.


Clay


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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> California is three different worlds.  There is the wealthy coastal strip
> like Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, etc., there are the big cities, and there is
> a rural interior.  Laws are enforced selectively.  If you can't (or won't)
> pay the fines then administrative laws don't apply; enforcement agencies
> learned not to waste their time.  In the biggest cities property crime (and
> other) laws are not enforced, literally.  Crimes within illegal and homeless
> communities get little attention.  Only wealthy and gated areas get what we
> would consider normal law enforcement.  
> This is not an accident.  Between stupid and arrogant one-party control and
> Soros backed DAs, CA has changed, and not in a good way.  As one example:
> when I moved there in 1976 CA had the top public schools in the country, now
> they are in the bottom two or three.  
> CA will get a big bail-out in the $1.9T (so-called) COVID relief bill but
> that won't last long.  And that $1.9T is coming from you and me and anyone
> that owns dollars (in the bank, in retirement accounts, bonds, etc).  The
> recently-posted FRED chart on M1 money supply (which was before this
> bailout) tells that story..

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Racist and elitist agenda against the working class people who are living 
paycheck to paycheck or just slowing going deeper into debt.  The bottom rung 
of the populace struggles to survive and the racist elites erect blocks against 
their survival at every turn.

A person should be able to effect repairs upon their property and effects 
without undue hinderance by the ruling class and Karens.  IF you plan on 
curtailing the lower class from seeking continued survival, just go out and 
kill them outright and be open about the repression.  Being poor does not look 
pretty, but there are more people groveling at the bottom of the pile than 
those who can afford to visit the dealership or pay for a repair that could and 
should be able to be done at home.

My home may have been unsightly when I was basking in multiple bottom feeder 
Benz that were glad to be roadworthy by my own wrenching.  Had I been required 
to/mandated they be professionally service, there is no way I could have kept 
any of them driving or available for another owner to love and service them.

A pox upon California, may it be swallowed by the sea and its populace of 
elitist be consumed by plague.

Clay


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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
> like junkyards.


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[MBZ] 2003 E320 - 40k miles - $8,200

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"Dealership Owned" what is that, a loaner car? Seems high even if very
nice, it's still 18 years old.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-03-mercedes-benz-e320-40k-mi/7294310440.html

Allan


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[MBZ] 1993 300TE - 230k miles, needs some work - $1,200 OBO

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1993-mercedes-300-te/7294427011.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bingo.  A fool and his money...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Mar 20, 2021 2:09:13 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes :

> Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
>> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
>> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
>> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
>> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
>> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
>> coupla weeks ago.
>> 
>> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
>> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
>> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly)
>> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
>>> 
>>> They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
>> done on CL) and get no takers.
>>> 
>>> Some people just don’t get it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 A little pricey.
 
 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I'd guess them to have the same if not fewer microprocessors due to the
lack of engine/emissions management functions.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 7:49 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I just saw where the Volvo plant in the region here is shutting down
> > production because they can't get microprocessors. I'm not sure what
> > that's about, I need to read up on it
>
> Wonder how that impacts their plans to go to all EVs? I'd guess EVs have
> even more microprocessors than conventional cars, with all the regen and
> battery management.
>
> The W123 300D is looking better and better.
>
> Allan
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OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> I just saw where the Volvo plant in the region here is shutting down 
> production because they can't get microprocessors. I'm not sure what 
> that's about, I need to read up on it

Wonder how that impacts their plans to go to all EVs? I'd guess EVs have
even more microprocessors than conventional cars, with all the regen and
battery management.

The W123 300D is looking better and better.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Zero turn mower

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea this is a vanguard engine as they discuss in the thread. I will check the 
pcv out. 

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/oil-coming-out-intake-of-v-twin-briggs.298464/
> 
> ZTR mowers are a blast to mow with. I've had one about ten years. They mow 
> around obstacles very easily and mow very quickly.
> 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The quoted ordinance appears to be aimed at repair facilities in areas 
not zoned for repair facilities, not DIY:


Minor adjustments, service, and repairs to automobiles or other 
passenger vehicles. Examples include but are not limited to: radiator, 
transmission, muffler, and brake repair, lubricant shops, diagnosis and 
tune-up, smog inspection, auto glass repair and installation, automotive 
seat covers, and re-upholstery, tire sales and service, and car washes. 
Shall not include body and engine work as defined in “Major Automobile 
Repair.” (See Section 7.3 of the Zoning Code).


And why do people keep posting links with Goolag or Failbook tracking 
crap in them? Most of the time the crap is longer than the link itself.

The article is here:
https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repairs-illegal/

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Re: [MBZ] Zero turn mower

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/oil-coming-out-intake-of-v-twin-briggs.298464/

ZTR mowers are a blast to mow with. I've had one about ten years. They mow 
around obstacles very easily and mow very quickly.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

If I recall correctly, estimated 2021 federal tax receipts were $3.5T and
spending was $8T (before latest $1.9T "COVID relief", I think).  With this
kind of "creative accounting" I would not put much stock on any state's
received vs paid numbers.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

On 2021-03-20 13:02, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Seems like we pull our weight. We are net even on federal payments 
> now, like most other states:

With last week's new legislation, I don't think anybody can claim to be net
even. MI, with our ten million residents, got IIRC ten billion in direct aid
to governments, on top of $1400 x ten mil ($14B) to the residents
themselves. CA and NY's government aid packages were truly huge, especially
to the SanFran area.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Mild Crack User, But Nice

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That woukd be worth getting for $3k less

--FT
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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I like:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-2005-mercedes-e320/7294461943.html
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Zero turn mower

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Just look at most of the guys that do landscaping. You shouldn’t have a problem 

--FT
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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My mother bought a new mower and gave me her old JD zero turn. Has about 800 
> hours on it I believe and has a 22hp Briggs. It starts up and seems to run 
> fine, but she says the air filter gets oil in it after a while. Filter is 
> clean now but will have to wait and see what she is talking about. Assuming 
> it does, could it be something simple or something bigger like needing the 
> engine rebuilt or replaced? Also, how hard is it to get used to driving one 
> of these things? I have driven a couple over the years very briefly but could 
> never get the hang of it. 
> 
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[MBZ] Zero turn mower

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

My mother bought a new mower and gave me her old JD zero turn. Has about 800 
hours on it I believe and has a 22hp Briggs. It starts up and seems to run 
fine, but she says the air filter gets oil in it after a while. Filter is clean 
now but will have to wait and see what she is talking about. Assuming it does, 
could it be something simple or something bigger like needing the engine 
rebuilt or replaced? Also, how hard is it to get used to driving one of these 
things? I have driven a couple over the years very briefly but could never get 
the hang of it. 

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-03-20 13:02, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Seems like we pull our weight. We are net even on federal payments now,
like most other states:


With last week's new legislation, I don't think anybody can claim to be 
net even. MI, with our ten million residents, got IIRC ten billion in 
direct aid to governments, on top of $1400 x ten mil ($14B) to the 
residents themselves. CA and NY's government aid packages were truly 
huge, especially to the SanFran area.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

20 or so years ago in Norman, OK I was rebuilding the engine in the 450SLC
at the rate that I could afford and get parts. Some of those special hoses
under the manifold took months to get from the dealer.
A neighbor reported us to the code people, who posted a notice on the
windshield that I had 7 days to get the car off my property or the
city would tow it and charge me for the privilege. I called the code
office, got a woman on the phone and told her that I was restoring a
classic Mercedes as I could afford it, and fully indented to finish. She
gave me a 6 month extension, which was enough to get it on the road again.

So, CA isn't the only place with those crappy regs, freedom loving Oklahoma
is rife with them as well. The problem isn't CA, it's people who like to
stick their noses into everyone else's business.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 4:56 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So if you have A neighbor that hates you and decides to report you to the
> authorities because you’re fixing your car in your garage, you get
> penalized. There are a lot of asshole neighbors ask me how I know. That is
> the problem with ordinances like these and HOAs  etc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 20, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > For what it’s worth, I know Sacramento well, having friends that have
> lived there for decades, and seriously considered relocating there in the
> late 1990s. And yes, I would live there. More likely, I would live in the
> foothills around Auburn, as it’s an easy commute and the elevation tempers
> the climate significantly.
> >
> > This is, for all intents and purposes, a story posted a year or two ago
> to rile people up and gain clicks. The ordinance passed some time ago and
> from what my friends tell me, it’s not actively enforced unless you p*ss
> off a neighbor who rats you out or have all sorts of cars around your
> property in various states of disrepair. Many developments in the area have
> HOAs whose CC&Rs go well beyond what the city’s ordinance targets.
> >
> > The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the
> streets actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or
> torque wrench. It’s simply not so.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 20, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover
> number of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or
> abandoned vehicles.  The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and
> enforce the existing laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they
> need to figure a way to enforce the existing ones!
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael E. Esh
> >>
> >>
>  On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there
> are
> >>> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for
> weeks
> >>> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business
> out
> >>> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots
> of
> >>> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing
> density
> >>> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
> >>> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your
> lawn,
> >>> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
> >>> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the
> country can
> >>> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
> >>> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per
> house,
> >>> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
> >>> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
> >>> like junkyards.
> >>>
>  On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>  Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with
> laws like
>  this?
> 
>  What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
>  private home?
>  -
>  Max
>  Charleston SC
> 
> 
>  On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > As a friend in the area says:
> >
> > "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
>  opening
> > auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on
> your
> > own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
> > you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both
> overstated
> > and out of date.”
> >
> > It’s clickbait, folks.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >

Re: [MBZ] Holy crack

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Crack was that 123 wagon on BAT that went for 56k or similar the other day.
82k, didn't even have the correct dash in it.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 10:03 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> you're a millionaire!
>
> This one was more interesting to me:
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/477052446871498
>
> --FT
>
> On 3/19/21 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/456654245783289/
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So if you have A neighbor that hates you and decides to report you to the 
authorities because you’re fixing your car in your garage, you get penalized. 
There are a lot of asshole neighbors ask me how I know. That is the problem 
with ordinances like these and HOAs  etc.

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth, I know Sacramento well, having friends that have lived 
> there for decades, and seriously considered relocating there in the late 
> 1990s. And yes, I would live there. More likely, I would live in the 
> foothills around Auburn, as it’s an easy commute and the elevation tempers 
> the climate significantly.
> 
> This is, for all intents and purposes, a story posted a year or two ago to 
> rile people up and gain clicks. The ordinance passed some time ago and from 
> what my friends tell me, it’s not actively enforced unless you p*ss off a 
> neighbor who rats you out or have all sorts of cars around your property in 
> various states of disrepair. Many developments in the area have HOAs whose 
> CC&Rs go well beyond what the city’s ordinance targets.
> 
> The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the streets 
> actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or torque wrench. 
> It’s simply not so.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover 
>> number of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or abandoned 
>> vehicles.  The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and enforce the 
>> existing laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they need to figure 
>> a way to enforce the existing ones!
>> 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
>>> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
>>> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
>>> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
>>> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
>>> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
>>> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
>>> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
>>> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
>>> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
>>> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
>>> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
>>> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
>>> like junkyards.
>>> 
 On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
 Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
 this?
 
 What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
 private home?
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> As a friend in the area says:
> 
> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
 opening
> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
> and out of date.”
> 
> It’s clickbait, folks.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
> schools,
>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
 up
> a
>> wet dream.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>> 
>> 
> 
 https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
>> 
> 
 rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
>> z448#.YFU4-2MUkso.facebook
>> 
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[MBZ] Mild Crack User, But Nice

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I like:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-2005-mercedes-e320/7294461943.html

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For what it’s worth, I know Sacramento well, having friends that have lived 
there for decades, and seriously considered relocating there in the late 1990s. 
And yes, I would live there. More likely, I would live in the foothills around 
Auburn, as it’s an easy commute and the elevation tempers the climate 
significantly.

This is, for all intents and purposes, a story posted a year or two ago to rile 
people up and gain clicks. The ordinance passed some time ago and from what my 
friends tell me, it’s not actively enforced unless you p*ss off a neighbor who 
rats you out or have all sorts of cars around your property in various states 
of disrepair. Many developments in the area have HOAs whose CC&Rs go well 
beyond what the city’s ordinance targets.

The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the streets 
actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or torque wrench. 
It’s simply not so.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover number 
> of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or abandoned 
> vehicles.  The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and enforce the 
> existing laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they need to figure a 
> way to enforce the existing ones!
> 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
>> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
>> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
>> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
>> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
>> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
>> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
>> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
>> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
>> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
>> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
>> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
>> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
>> like junkyards.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
>>> private home?
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 As a friend in the area says:
 
 "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
>>> opening
 auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
 own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
 you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
 and out of date.”
 
 It’s clickbait, folks.
 
 -D
 
> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
 schools,
> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
>>> up
 a
> wet dream.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
 davesl...@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> 
> 
 
>>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
> 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 21:19:38 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > UBI?
> 
> Without getting political, UBI is universal basic income

> > MMT?
> 
> Modern Monetary Theory.

> And if you are bored and feel like reading.
> 
> https://fee.org/articles/these-five-freedom-philosophers-will-liberate-your-mind/

Thank you.


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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> UBI?

Without getting political, UBI is universal basic income. A check from the 
government for being alive. Much like the government subsidies of yore to 
farmers, not to plant.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/basic-income.asp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income

> MMT?

Modern Monetary Theory.
(Warning, potentially political content in this explanation.)
https://www.businessinsider.com/modern-monetary-theory-mmt-explained-aoc-2019-3

(Best explanation)
https://www.investopedia.com/modern-monetary-theory-mmt-4588060

(Most convoluted explanation)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory

My take.
Government money creation from thin air, backed by nothing save hope and faith.

For an ancient Frenchman's take, read Bastiat.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44800

And if you are bored and feel like reading.

https://fee.org/articles/these-five-freedom-philosophers-will-liberate-your-mind/

Rick
Who is no economist, and didn't even completely read the articles.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Crazy Real Estate

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:53:37 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The well at the Ranch is 980 ft with sweet water, I've had it tested
> and it tests way cleaner than city water, without anything done to it.

Congratulations!


> The water tanks sit on the side of a little mountain behind the house
> about 400 ft altitude, so gravity water pressure is plenty good.

Indeed! 173 psi is plenty good!


> Showers are "Navy submarine style", you turn on the water, wet yourself
> down, soap up, turn off the shower head [ball valve at the head so
> settings are preserved]

I installed a thermostatic mixing valve in the feed line to our shower
to do the same and also minimize the water used to find the proper
temperature and flow. Only one knob of the shower valves is active, so
all one can do is turn it on and off.


> Many use food grade plastic tanks in steel cages at 275 gallons, which
> fit nicely in the bed of a pickup and "make a load"... 

Many people around here, where there is no water no matter how deep you
drill do exactly that. We are fortunate to have a well to supply our
hand-washing, toilet-flushing, and shower water; we buy 1 gallon jugs of
drinking water at our supermarket in Edgewood.


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover number 
of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or abandoned vehicles. 
 The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and enforce the existing 
laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they need to figure a way to 
enforce the existing ones!


Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
> like junkyards.
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
>> this?
>> 
>> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
>> private home?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> As a friend in the area says:
>>> 
>>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
>> opening
>>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
>>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
>>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
>>> and out of date.”
>>> 
>>> It’s clickbait, folks.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
 fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
>>> schools,
 etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
>> up
>>> a
 wet dream.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
 Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
 
 
>>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 19:58:45 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> With the market influx of what may end up being UBI, I suspect it with
> be gone shortly.

UBI?


> Welcome to MMT.

MMT?


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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I just saw where the Volvo plant in the region here is shutting down 
production because they can't get microprocessors.  I'm not sure what 
that's about, I need to read up on it


--FT

On 3/20/21 3:58 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

If i was in the market for one I would not be afraid of the salvage
title but would use that to negotiate the price down to maybe less than
$4k if it sits on the market for a week or more.

With the market influx of what may end up being UBI, I suspect it with be gone 
shortly. The prices of a lot of things have started to go up, some quite sharp 
increases in price are noted in lumber, for instance. If you have a need or 
burning desire for something, and the price is right, do not hesitate to make 
the purchase. New cars and trucks are in short supply, pushing the asking price 
of used cars and trucks up.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/lumber-price

https://publish.manheim.com/en/services/consulting/used-vehicle-value-index.html

Welcome to MMT.

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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>If i was in the market for one I would not be afraid of the salvage
>title but would use that to negotiate the price down to maybe less than
>$4k if it sits on the market for a week or more.

With the market influx of what may end up being UBI, I suspect it with be gone 
shortly. The prices of a lot of things have started to go up, some quite sharp 
increases in price are noted in lumber, for instance. If you have a need or 
burning desire for something, and the price is right, do not hesitate to make 
the purchase. New cars and trucks are in short supply, pushing the asking price 
of used cars and trucks up. 

https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/lumber-price

https://publish.manheim.com/en/services/consulting/used-vehicle-value-index.html

Welcome to MMT.

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes  writes:

> Perhaps but it still prohibits me from working on a friend’s car or a
> neighbor’s car or my mother’s car. Stupid liberals and their mentally
> deficient regulations.

Honestly, that's really for the best. I learned the hard way not to work
on cars I don't own. Same with computers. It becomes expected. I'm not
the free help desk. "No good deed goes unpunished."

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If i was in the market for one I would not be afraid of the salvage 
title but would use that to negotiate the price down to maybe less than 
$4k if it sits on the market for a week or more.


--FT

On 3/20/21 3:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 12:55:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-diesel-40-mpg-397-wtq/7293782003.html

So what do you think about it and its price?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s going to be a while. He’s on his second 30 days of Craigslist, at least.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
>> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
>> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
>> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
>> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
>> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
>> coupla weeks ago.
>> 
>> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
>> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
>> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly)
>> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
>>> 
>>> They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
>> done on CL) and get no takers.
>>> 
>>> Some people just don’t get it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 A little pricey.
 
 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 12:55:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-diesel-40-mpg-397-wtq/7293782003.html

So what do you think about it and its price?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Perhaps he is hoping to find a greater idiot.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the
> driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood
> it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact
> some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.
> He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with
> the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a
> coupla weeks ago.
>
> He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.
>
> --FT
>
> On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s
> condition and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from
> reality. The seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly)
> justify the ask, but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.
> >
> > They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve
> done on CL) and get no takers.
> >
> > Some people just don’t get it.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A little pricey.
> >>
> >>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Seems like we pull our weight. We are net even on federal payments now,
like most other states:


https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-no-longer-pays-more-to-Washington-than-15243861.php


On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 10:15 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> California is three different worlds.  There is the wealthy coastal strip
> like Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, etc., there are the big cities, and there is
> a rural interior.  Laws are enforced selectively.  If you can't (or won't)
> pay the fines then administrative laws don't apply; enforcement agencies
> learned not to waste their time.  In the biggest cities property crime (and
> other) laws are not enforced, literally.  Crimes within illegal and
> homeless
> communities get little attention.  Only wealthy and gated areas get what we
> would consider normal law enforcement.
> This is not an accident.  Between stupid and arrogant one-party control and
> Soros backed DAs, CA has changed, and not in a good way.  As one example:
> when I moved there in 1976 CA had the top public schools in the country,
> now
> they are in the bottom two or three.
> CA will get a big bail-out in the $1.9T (so-called) COVID relief bill but
> that won't last long.  And that $1.9T is coming from you and me and anyone
> that owns dollars (in the bank, in retirement accounts, bonds, etc).  The
> recently-posted FRED chart on M1 money supply (which was before this
> bailout) tells that story..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 9:43 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>
> Insanity!  And California is held up as a model for the rest of the US to
> follow?
>
> Get this:
>
> "Many are wondering how these laws will be enforced. One member of the
> *Grassroots
> Motorsports*
> <
> https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/it-illegal-do-major-repairs-you
> r-car-your-garage-s/155378/page1/
> 
> >
> forum claims he has already been fined $430 for violating the code.
>
> "I have not been left alone, they levied a $430 fine yesterday. You can
> request a hearing to review the code enforcement decision, which costs $700
> to complain," he wrote."
>
> So if you get a fine for breaking this draconian law, and you want to
> challenge this in court, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE THAN THE FINE TO GET A COURT
> HEARING!
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto
> > -repairs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbD
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah I told the guy to change the conductor plate, $250 fix, 4hr in the 
driveway and then he might get $3k from the right buyer but as it stood 
it was worth maybe $2.  I also told him I bought my daughter the exact 
some car for $1900 in great condition with good trans and fewer miles.  
He thanked me and the post keeps getting reposted every few days with 
the car in the same condition.  He did drop the price from $3500 a 
coupla weeks ago.


He appears to be an idiot or does not really want to sell the car, or both.

--FT

On 3/20/21 6:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s condition 
and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from reality. The 
seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly) justify the ask, 
but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.

They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve done on 
CL) and get no takers.

Some people just don’t get it.

-D



On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

A little pricey.

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

California is three different worlds.  There is the wealthy coastal strip
like Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, etc., there are the big cities, and there is
a rural interior.  Laws are enforced selectively.  If you can't (or won't)
pay the fines then administrative laws don't apply; enforcement agencies
learned not to waste their time.  In the biggest cities property crime (and
other) laws are not enforced, literally.  Crimes within illegal and homeless
communities get little attention.  Only wealthy and gated areas get what we
would consider normal law enforcement.  
This is not an accident.  Between stupid and arrogant one-party control and
Soros backed DAs, CA has changed, and not in a good way.  As one example:
when I moved there in 1976 CA had the top public schools in the country, now
they are in the bottom two or three.  
CA will get a big bail-out in the $1.9T (so-called) COVID relief bill but
that won't last long.  And that $1.9T is coming from you and me and anyone
that owns dollars (in the bank, in retirement accounts, bonds, etc).  The
recently-posted FRED chart on M1 money supply (which was before this
bailout) tells that story..

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 9:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

Insanity!  And California is held up as a model for the rest of the US to
follow?

Get this:

"Many are wondering how these laws will be enforced. One member of the
*Grassroots
Motorsports*

forum claims he has already been fined $430 for violating the code.

"I have not been left alone, they levied a $430 fine yesterday. You can
request a hearing to review the code enforcement decision, which costs $700
to complain," he wrote."

So if you get a fine for breaking this draconian law, and you want to
challenge this in court, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE THAN THE FINE TO GET A COURT
HEARING!


-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Holy crack

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

you're a millionaire!

This one was more interesting to me: 
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/477052446871498


--FT

On 3/19/21 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/456654245783289/


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[MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-diesel-40-mpg-397-wtq/7293782003.html

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[MBZ] With Patina -- 1976 Mercedes 450SL Euro - $4, 500 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-1976-mercedes-450sl-euro/7293915081.html

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[MBZ] it is a 190D Diesel 85 Mercedes diesel - $4,500 (Troutman)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/troutman-85-mercedes-diesel/7294168621.html

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

OK, not to be pedantic, but it goes several layers deeper than illegal
immigrants. It is interesting. The census shows 300K hispanic or latino in
Sacramento, of 2M. There are about 60,000 undocumented immigrants in
Sacramento as of 2017 (Pew estimate). Any of their kids who are born here
are Americans, same as me. I should also say that cars on blocks in the
driveway is hardly limited to hispanics...people in glass houses and all
that.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 8:26 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> > Many are pretty low income, working under the table, living many people
> per house,
>
> "Guest" workers.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

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> Many are pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per 
> house,

"Guest" workers.

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What does this have to do with me? I’m missing the point. And for the record I 
lived in California at one time.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
> this?
> 
> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
> private home?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As a friend in the area says:
>> 
>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening
>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
>> and out of date.”
>> 
>> It’s clickbait, folks.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
>> schools,
>>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up
>> a
>>> wet dream.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
>>> 
>> rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
like junkyards.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
> this?
>
> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
> private home?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > As a friend in the area says:
> >
> > "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
> opening
> > auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
> > own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
> > you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
> > and out of date.”
> >
> > It’s clickbait, folks.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> > > fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
> > schools,
> > > etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
> up
> > a
> > > wet dream.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
> > davesl...@okiebenz.com
> > > Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> > > Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
this?

What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
private home?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> As a friend in the area says:
>
> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening
> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
> and out of date.”
>
> It’s clickbait, folks.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> > fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
> schools,
> > etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up
> a
> > wet dream.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
> davesl...@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> > Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> >
> >
> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Insanity!  And California is held up as a model for the rest of the US to
follow?

Get this:

"Many are wondering how these laws will be enforced. One member of the
*Grassroots
Motorsports*

forum claims he has already been fined $430 for violating the code.

"I have not been left alone, they levied a $430 fine yesterday. You can
request a hearing to review the code enforcement decision, which costs $700
to complain," he wrote."

So if you get a fine for breaking this draconian law, and you want to
challenge this in court, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE THAN THE FINE TO GET A COURT
HEARING!


-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Perhaps but it still prohibits me from working on a friend’s car or a 
neighbor’s car or my mother’s car. Stupid liberals and their mentally deficient 
regulations.

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As a friend in the area says:
> 
> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening 
> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your own 
> property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what you’re 
> doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated and out of 
> date.”
> 
> It’s clickbait, folks.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great schools,
>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up a
>> wet dream.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
>> rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
>> z448#.YFU4-2MUkso.facebook
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As a friend in the area says:

"This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening auto 
repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your own 
property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what you’re doing. 
The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated and out of date.”

It’s clickbait, folks.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great schools,
> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up a
> wet dream.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> 
> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
> rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Dan

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A couple of us have already approached this seller about the car’s condition 
and their asking price, suggesting there is a disconnect from reality. The 
seller knows what’s required to make it whole and (possibly) justify the ask, 
but isn’t interested in taking the initiative.

They’ll continue to repost (this is at least the second round they’ve done on 
CL) and get no takers.

Some people just don’t get it.

-D


> On Mar 20, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A little pricey.
> 
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7293633445.html
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