Re: [MBZ] Chimney plaster repair.

2021-07-29 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Nice. Good for another 100 years

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:25 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How about it! No drywall here. Just plaster of Paris and joint compound.
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Re: [MBZ] OT interesting video

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> Don't get addicted. Otherwise relax and enjoy it to whatever degree you can.

Thanks Allan. I gave Craig the same admonishment several years ago. I am well 
aware of the risks. I haven't had an alcoholic beverage in two decades. Infer 
from that what you will.

I plan on getting extremely adept with my right (non-dominant) arm and 
arresting my tendency to procrastinate. Worthy goals, in my opinion.


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Re: [MBZ] OT interesting video

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Don't get addicted. Otherwise relax and enjoy it to whatever degree you can.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Didn't Ijust post that? Or are the pain meds kicking in?
> 
> Also, I apologize in advance for all the posting over the next few days.
> I'm going to be incapacitated (and somewhat intoxicated) for a few days,
> and I'm bored whit less.
> 
> Rick
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT interesting video

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Didn't Ijust post that? Or are the pain meds kicking in?

Also, I apologize in advance for all the posting over the next few days.
I'm going to be incapacitated (and somewhat intoxicated) for a few days,
and I'm bored whit less.

Rick



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzhxtScHqxo

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[MBZ] Motorhome Police Chase

2021-07-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELYvl0Q0eE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELYvl0Q0eE

A young woman stole a motorhome and went on a wild police chase with none fatal 
injuries and much property damage. The motorhome may be on a Mercedes chassis. 
I've never before seen anthing like this. She was driving with two large dogs 
in her lap.
Gerry

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[MBZ] OT interesting video

2021-07-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzhxtScHqxo

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Re: [MBZ] Chimney plaster repair.

2021-07-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Thanks. Yes I much prefer plaster walls. Much more solid feel and much more 
resistant to water damage.

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> On Jul 29, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice!
> 
> My first house was old enough to have lathe and plaster walls. Very quiet 
> inside. The plaster blocks noise a lot more than drywall does.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> How about it! No drywall here. Just plaster of Paris and joint compound.
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Re: [MBZ] Chimney plaster repair.

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Nice!

My first house was old enough to have lathe and plaster walls. Very quiet 
inside. The plaster blocks noise a lot more than drywall does.

Allan


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> How about it! No drywall here. Just plaster of Paris and joint compound.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
No but I did watch one of his videos last night about how to make a sheet metal 
brake.

Mine is in pretty good shape. I'm going to need to patch a rusty area in the 
passenger floor and work out how water is getting in there, and at some point 
repaint it, but it is solid otherwise and has many updated parts.

Allan



On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> Have you noticed that Bob from "I like to Make Stuff" on YouTube is restoring 
> a Ghia? He did the gas tank in the last episode. His is a bit of a disaster 
> but he's a pretty good craftsman, it'll be interesting to watch him get it 
> fixed up.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021, 8:42:24 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Got the Karmann Ghia running better today. The JC Whitney air flow meter that 
> I bought to balance the carbs on an M180 finally was useful again. The engine 
> has a dual Weber ICT setup. Air flow was not quite balanced between the two 
> carbs and the mixture seemed off also. Got it idling smoothly and it revs 
> well without stumbling. Started raining before I could check the timing, 
> that's on the list for tomorrow and maybe I can start driving it. Runs better 
> every time I start it; I have Techron in the gas so I'm thinking it's slowly 
> cleaning out old gunk in the fuel system. I have not torn down and cleaned 
> the carbs but if it still has drivability issues I guess that's my next step.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Cool. Then all four barrels need syncing.

I have an old set of mercury carb sticks. I wonder why I can get mercury?


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

They are single-barrel.

https://vwparts.aircooled.net/Dual-Weber-ICT-Carb-Kit-All-Engines-CB-p/cb-dual-ict.htm

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Are the Webers progressive two barrel carbs, or more of a Siamese two single 
> barrel?
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: July 29, 2021 7:42 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes
>
> Got the Karmann Ghia running better today. The JC Whitney air flow meter that 
> I bought to balance the carbs on an M180 finally was useful again. The engine 
> has a dual Weber ICT setup. Air flow was not quite balanced between the two 
> carbs and the mixture seemed off also. Got it idling smoothly and it revs 
> well without stumbling. Started raining before I could check the timing, 
> that's on the list for tomorrow and maybe I can start driving it. Runs better 
> every time I start it; I have Techron in the gas so I'm thinking it's slowly 
> cleaning out old gunk in the fuel system. I have not torn down and cleaned 
> the carbs but if it still has drivability issues I guess that's my next step.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

2021-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Have you noticed that Bob from "I like to Make Stuff" on YouTube is restoring 
a Ghia? He did the gas tank in the last episode. His is a bit of a disaster but 
he's a pretty good craftsman, it'll be interesting to watch him get it fixed up.
-Curt

On Thursday, July 29, 2021, 8:42:24 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Got the Karmann Ghia running better today. The JC Whitney air flow meter that 
I bought to balance the carbs on an M180 finally was useful again. The engine 
has a dual Weber ICT setup. Air flow was not quite balanced between the two 
carbs and the mixture seemed off also. Got it idling smoothly and it revs well 
without stumbling. Started raining before I could check the timing, that's on 
the list for tomorrow and maybe I can start driving it. Runs better every time 
I start it; I have Techron in the gas so I'm thinking it's slowly cleaning out 
old gunk in the fuel system. I have not torn down and cleaned the carbs but if 
it still has drivability issues I guess that's my next step.

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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I've used the law a couple times now to get junk cars removed from the idiots 
across the street.Actually that's not 100% true, Johnny law has never taken one 
of the cars but he's strongly suggested that the Honda with no engine sitting 
on the street for three months should go away.
Strangely the idiot guy that puts the cars out there doesn't realize it's me 
that calls the cops.
-Curt

On Thursday, July 29, 2021, 5:27:06 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So, what is the whole story? Do you have an unfriendly  nosey  neighbour 
who complained to someone in authority? Who even knew the tire was low 
and the battery dead?
Did someone know you would be out having surgery so it was a good 
opportunity to grab your cars for some reason?
Do tow truck drivers wander about looking for cars that appear unable to 
be driven?
How often are tow truck drivers shot while trying to take a vehicle from 
someone's yard?


On 29/07/2021 3:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> That day is already here. I went in for shoulder surgery this morning. While 
> I was in surgery, I had my son's daily driver, and a W124 impounded. We have 
> emissions testing here (Porter and Lake counties Indiana) and I got the Neon 
> passed the other day (small evap leak). The emissions test in the most 
> stringent in the country. It allows for NO monitor not ready conditions. IL 
> allows one or two, as does CA. Both cars are plated and registered, awaiting 
> plates. I don't drive the W,124, so I didn't feel it necessary to plate it, 
> until it got stickered. It was towed because it was "inoperable". It has a 
> low tire and a flat battery. $400 later I have my cars back. Both cars have 
> current registration, but the plates for the Neon came in the mail today, and 
> I expect the Mercedes plate tomorrow.
>
> If you think FOR ONE MINUTE that you ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING, you are 
> delusional. Try to own ANYTHING without paying the annual fees, property 
> taxes, HOA fees, insurance, ect.  God help you if you have an unexpected 
> medical expense. Your wages will be garnished and in most states your 
> property will have liens set against it.
>
> Explain to me this concept of ownership.
> I am a simple, uneducated, layman, maybe I just am too ignorant to grasp it.
>
>
> Rick
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
They are single-barrel.

https://vwparts.aircooled.net/Dual-Weber-ICT-Carb-Kit-All-Engines-CB-p/cb-dual-ict.htm

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Are the Webers progressive two barrel carbs, or more of a Siamese two single 
> barrel?
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: July 29, 2021 7:42 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes
> 
> Got the Karmann Ghia running better today. The JC Whitney air flow meter that 
> I bought to balance the carbs on an M180 finally was useful again. The engine 
> has a dual Weber ICT setup. Air flow was not quite balanced between the two 
> carbs and the mixture seemed off also. Got it idling smoothly and it revs 
> well without stumbling. Started raining before I could check the timing, 
> that's on the list for tomorrow and maybe I can start driving it. Runs better 
> every time I start it; I have Techron in the gas so I'm thinking it's slowly 
> cleaning out old gunk in the fuel system. I have not torn down and cleaned 
> the carbs but if it still has drivability issues I guess that's my next step.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Are the Webers progressive two barrel carbs, or more of a Siamese two single 
barrel?


Rick

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Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

Got the Karmann Ghia running better today. The JC Whitney air flow meter that I 
bought to balance the carbs on an M180 finally was useful again. The engine has 
a dual Weber ICT setup. Air flow was not quite balanced between the two carbs 
and the mixture seemed off also. Got it idling smoothly and it revs well 
without stumbling. Started raining before I could check the timing, that's on 
the list for tomorrow and maybe I can start driving it. Runs better every time 
I start it; I have Techron in the gas so I'm thinking it's slowly cleaning out 
old gunk in the fuel system. I have not torn down and cleaned the carbs but if 
it still has drivability issues I guess that's my next step.

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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes


Yes sir. In the driveway. Visible from the street.  I fully accept 
responsibility for not completing airing up the tires, and getting plates on it 
sooner.

That said, I have two exceedingly ugly, but running and plated 123's that are 
out of sight, out of mind.

 Not anymore.

Rick

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Impounded from where? Your house?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

2021-07-29 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Got the Karmann Ghia running better today. The JC Whitney air flow meter 
> that I bought to balance the carbs on an M180 finally was useful again. The 
> engine has a dual Weber ICT setup. Air flow was not quite balanced between 
> the two carbs and the mixture seemed off also. Got it idling smoothly and it 
> revs well without stumbling. Started raining before I could check the timing, 
> that's on the list for tomorrow and maybe I can start driving it. Runs better 
> every time I start it; I have Techron in the gas so I'm thinking it's slowly 
> cleaning out old gunk in the fuel system. I have not torn down and cleaned 
> the carbs but if it still has drivability issues I guess that's my next step.
> 
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[MBZ] OT: Ghia notes

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Got the Karmann Ghia running better today. The JC Whitney air flow meter that I 
bought to balance the carbs on an M180 finally was useful again. The engine has 
a dual Weber ICT setup. Air flow was not quite balanced between the two carbs 
and the mixture seemed off also. Got it idling smoothly and it revs well 
without stumbling. Started raining before I could check the timing, that's on 
the list for tomorrow and maybe I can start driving it. Runs better every time 
I start it; I have Techron in the gas so I'm thinking it's slowly cleaning out 
old gunk in the fuel system. I have not torn down and cleaned the carbs but if 
it still has drivability issues I guess that's my next step.

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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Impounded from where? Your house? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That day is already here. I went in for shoulder surgery this morning. While 
> I was in surgery, I had my son's daily driver, and a W124 impounded. We have 
> emissions testing here (Porter and Lake counties Indiana) and I got the Neon 
> passed the other day (small evap leak). The emissions test in the most 
> stringent in the country. It allows for NO monitor not ready conditions. IL 
> allows one or two, as does CA. Both cars are plated and registered, awaiting 
> plates. I don't drive the W,124, so I didn't feel it necessary to plate it, 
> until it got stickered. It was towed because it was "inoperable". It has a 
> low tire and a flat battery. $400 later I have my cars back. Both cars have 
> current registration, but the plates for the Neon came in the mail today, and 
> I expect the Mercedes plate tomorrow.
> 
> If you think FOR ONE MINUTE that you ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING, you are 
> delusional. Try to own ANYTHING without paying the annual fees, property 
> taxes, HOA fees, insurance, ect.  God help you if you have an unexpected 
> medical expense. Your wages will be garnished and in most states your 
> property will have liens set against it.
> 
> Explain to me this concept of ownership.
> I am a simple, uneducated, layman, maybe I just am too ignorant to grasp it.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: July 29, 2021 11:20 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions
> 
> I think the day is coming where we will no longer own cars, you will 
> license/lease them, with various options and features enabled or disabled, 
> just like software. Used cars as we know them today won't exist. You'll 
> simply return the car to the dealer and they will reset the options and 
> relicense it to the next tenant. The other model will be short-term rentals 
> (hours/days) for people who only need a car occasionally.
> 
> Most people won't care, to them a car is a monthly payment either way.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> Shades of John Deere.
>> Thanks for paying $$ for that S classe.
>> For an additional $575/yr, we'll enable the rear wheel steering that's
>> standard in USA...
>> 
>> For the first time, I respect MBUSA more than I respect DBAG.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rvOAGT6mw
>> 
>> 
>> The electric sedan already has the necessary hardware for this feature,
>> but it's blocked by the software. Rear-wheel steering isn't a new
>> technology as it has been around for decades, with the Nissan R31
>> Skyline pioneering the system back in 1985. That said, Mercedes has
>> managed to take it to a whole new level with its flagship combustion and
>> electric cars, as the latest S-Class and EQS boast the most advanced
>> version ever fitted to a production vehicle.
>> 
>> On the EQS, the rear wheels have a standard steering angle of up to 4.5
>> degrees, but in other markets, it comes with an optional feature
>> increasing the angle to 10 degrees – this advanced tech is actually
>> standard on the US-market car, however. In the case of the EV, the
>> turning circle drops to 10.9 meters (35.7 feet), which is mighty
>> impressive for such a large car. It turns the rear wheels in the
>> opposite direction to the front wheels at speeds of up to 60 km/h (37
>> mph) to reduce the turning circle. Above that velocity, all four wheels
>> turn in the same direction to improve stability and sharpen up handling.
>> 
>> How does it work? According to Mercedes: "An electric motor drives a
>> spindle at the rear axle via a drive belt. This makes axial adjustments
>> to the spindle."
>> 
>> The more advanced setup is offered as standard equipment in the United
>> States, but at home in Germany, the EQS comes fitted with the lesser
>> configuration of RWS. You can have 10-degree steering as an optional
>> feature when ordering the car, and Mercedes is providing another way to
>> gain access to the tech even after taking delivery of the fullsize
>> electric sedan.
>> 
>> With cars becoming rolling computers, Mercedes is cramming more and more
>> tech while providing support for over-the-air updates. The EQS is a
>> relevant example as owners can activate the 10-degree rear-wheel
>> steering post-purchase courtesy of an OTA update. It effectively means
>> the vehicle has this feature from the get-go, but it's blocked by the
>> software. Unlocking it costs €489 (about $575) annually, but if you get
>> a three-year subscription, you'll get a €300 ($353) discount by paying
>> only €1,169 ($1,376).
>> 
>> Ordering the more sophisticated steering system requires the parking
>> package with a 360-degree camera, as it's the case with the S-Class.
>> Interestingly, the tech can't be had if the car is running on mixed
>> tires

Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> they went so far as to tow a vehicle from private property. I'd expect at 
> least some kind of written notice first.

Oh I got one. That is why I had plates on the way.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> Try to be independent and a critical thinker and expect to be left alone, and 
> find out...

Realistically, I just want to left alone, by the government's, federal, state, 
county and local. I will maintain my property and vehicles to the best of my 
physical and financial abilities. Just leave me alone. I don't need the 
governments to legislate common courtesy, and common sense (i.e. " the golden 
rule"). I will stop there, going further may be offensive to those less 
tolerant.

Mercedes Benz content. My low miles, no rust W124 comes home tomorrow. At 
my expense.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-07-29 20:09, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I am vaguely aware that individuals are not supposed to own
unregistered cars, since they don't want improptu salvage yards
popping up, but it's so common and I've never seen it enforced that I
am quite suprised they went so far as to tow a vehicle from private
property. I'd expect at least some kind of written notice first.


Around here, it's a 30 day Notice To Cure.

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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I am vaguely aware that individuals are not supposed to own unregistered cars, 
since they don't want improptu salvage yards popping up, but it's so common and 
I've never seen it enforced that I am quite suprised they went so far as to tow 
a vehicle from private property. I'd expect at least some kind of written 
notice first.

Allan


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > So, what is the whole story? Do you have an unfriendly  nosey  neighbour
> who complained to someone in authority? Who even knew the tire was low and 
> the battery dead?
> 
> Actually Randy, no. All of my neighbors are very cool with the live and let 
> live philosophy. I keep my property up, however I drive older, rust belt 
> cars. Some can be quite unattractive at times, but are mechanically sound. 
> The code enforcement officer in my town hasn't been able to enforce much in 
> the last eighteen months because of the government reaction to a virus. So, 
> eighteen months of pent up overzealous enforcement has been unleashed.
> 
> As I stated earlier, I procrastinated on getting plates, and that was the 
> primary cause. The mail is slow however, and they arrived today, after the 
> cars were gone. They are and were technically legal. Without running the 
> plate, the officer on hand wouldn't know that. My son informed him they were 
> legal, but Barney Fife wouldn't have it. I am grateful I was not home. The 
> situation would have escalated very quickly.
> 
> I am off for the next three months. Target one on my mission list is the only 
> emissions standard in the state of Indiana. Never underestimate the power of 
> an extremely passionate man, with too much time on his hands.
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sadly more and more true, the creep tyranny has turned into walking,
trotting, and now galloping flat out soul-crushing tyranny.  Toe the line,
smile and nod along with the masses, and you'll be fine.  Try to be
independent and a critical thinker and expect to be left alone, and find
out...

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:24 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> America Land of the Free (NOT)
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> So, what is the whole story? Do you have an unfriendly  nosey  neighbour
who complained to someone in authority? Who even knew the tire was low and the 
battery dead?

Actually Randy, no. All of my neighbors are very cool with the live and let 
live philosophy. I keep my property up, however I drive older, rust belt cars. 
Some can be quite unattractive at times, but are mechanically sound. The code 
enforcement officer in my town hasn't been able to enforce much in the last 
eighteen months because of the government reaction to a virus. So, eighteen 
months of pent up overzealous enforcement has been unleashed.

As I stated earlier, I procrastinated on getting plates, and that was the 
primary cause. The mail is slow however, and they arrived today, after the cars 
were gone. They are and were technically legal. Without running the plate, the 
officer on hand wouldn't know that. My son informed him they were legal, but 
Barney Fife wouldn't have it. I am grateful I was not home. The situation would 
have escalated very quickly.

I am off for the next three months. Target one on my mission list is the only 
emissions standard in the state of Indiana. Never underestimate the power of an 
extremely passionate man, with too much time on his hands.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I will probably take the city to small claims court. And as a matter of fact I 
did have a truck towed and crushed before I could get it back about twenty 
years ago. Granted, it was inoperable (2.8 v6 gmc with a failed intake manifold 
gasket), but I purchased it new, and had it rustproofed. It was very clean.


Rick

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On 2021-07-29 17:04, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Towed off of your property? Or were they parked in the street?


What if somebody conned a tow company into stealing your 60 year old
truck from your driveway?

And what if you forced them to give it back, and that same somebody
managed to get it towed and within 45 minutes crushed?

I'd be prosecuting and suing if that happened to me.

I wouldn't be playing games like this
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

America Land of the Free (NOT)



On 29/07/2021 5:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On 2021-07-29 17:04, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Towed off of your property? Or were they parked in the street?



What if somebody conned a tow company into stealing your 60 year old 
truck from your driveway?


And what if you forced them to give it back, and that same somebody 
managed to get it towed and within 45 minutes crushed?


I'd be prosecuting and suing if that happened to me.

I wouldn't be playing games like this

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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-07-29 17:26, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

So, what is the whole story? Do you have an unfriendly  nosey 
neighbour who complained to someone in authority? Who even knew the
tire was low and the battery dead?


Here's one where code enforcer thought a guy's LR tire looked low (he 
claims flat, but in his own pic you can see it's clearly not flat) and 
writes a $4500 fixit ticket.


Homeowner replaces all four tires, repaints the truck, and enforcer 
keeps trying to collect the $4500...the guy presiding over the appeal 
hearing was not amused...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStH2AikiLU



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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
So, what is the whole story? Do you have an unfriendly  nosey  neighbour 
who complained to someone in authority? Who even knew the tire was low 
and the battery dead?
Did someone know you would be out having surgery so it was a good 
opportunity to grab your cars for some reason?
Do tow truck drivers wander about looking for cars that appear unable to 
be driven?
How often are tow truck drivers shot while trying to take a vehicle from 
someone's yard?



On 29/07/2021 3:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

That day is already here. I went in for shoulder surgery this morning. While I was in 
surgery, I had my son's daily driver, and a W124 impounded. We have emissions testing 
here (Porter and Lake counties Indiana) and I got the Neon passed the other day (small 
evap leak). The emissions test in the most stringent in the country. It allows for NO 
monitor not ready conditions. IL allows one or two, as does CA. Both cars are plated and 
registered, awaiting plates. I don't drive the W,124, so I didn't feel it necessary to 
plate it, until it got stickered. It was towed because it was "inoperable". It 
has a low tire and a flat battery. $400 later I have my cars back. Both cars have current 
registration, but the plates for the Neon came in the mail today, and I expect the 
Mercedes plate tomorrow.

If you think FOR ONE MINUTE that you ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING, you are delusional. 
Try to own ANYTHING without paying the annual fees, property taxes, HOA fees, 
insurance, ect.  God help you if you have an unexpected medical expense. Your 
wages will be garnished and in most states your property will have liens set 
against it.

Explain to me this concept of ownership.
I am a simple, uneducated, layman, maybe I just am too ignorant to grasp it.


Rick





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Re: [MBZ] I’ll be moving…

2021-07-29 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
I have a few reasons why we want to sell the Sprinter. First, we are once again 
without a driver, and I don’t want to have to pay extra to have it shipped. 
Second, it’s primary use is just putting around town to here and there, lots of 
idling and stop and go, none of which are good for a Diesel engine and even 
worse for a modern one with DEF/DPF and EGR. Third, we could use the money for 
moving expenses since we’ll have to pay for storage for our stuff so the house 
can be staged properly and sold quickly. Once we get settled into the new 
place, I can spend a LOT less money on maybe an older Sprinter 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2021, at 5:39 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good luck with the sale and move!  Join us on the okietalk list and let's
> have a real dialogue.
> 
> Why so eager to be rid of the Sprinter?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 9:56 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> To North Carolina! Oregon’s cost of living and property taxes just
>> continue to climb, and our state is becoming a cesspool of homelessness and
>> criminal activity. Added to all this, our HOA is full of negativity and
>> drama, so we started looking for someplace else to live. My BIL lives in
>> Lexington, NC, and things are much more peaceful there. We put our deposit
>> on a 2501SqFt home on 1.23 acres which is currently under construction. The
>> price is about half what our current Oregon home is worth, so we can pay
>> off our lone and other debt and still have enough to put about half down on
>> the new house. I’ve decided to sell our Sprinter to get more liquidity to
>> move our stuff out, get a temporary rental and wait while our house sells.
>> You can bet I won’t get a Blutec Diesel Sprinter next time!
>> Kevin, moving out of Hillsboro, Oregon
>> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB, 3500mi, Low Mileage Lutgart, soon to be
>> up for sale
>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, soon to be up for sale as well if the
>> darned shop ever calls me back!!
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Private property. No Trespassing signs go up tomorrow. Electronic gate this 
fall. I'm done. This is my backyard. I'm beyond pissed.


Rick

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Towed off of your property? Or were they parked in the street?

Here there's a pretty good chance of a non-plated car parked in the street 
being towed eventually. Never heard of it happening on one's own private 
property.

Some HOAs have rules against having a non-plated car, boat/trailer parking, etc.

Allan


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> That day is already here. I went in for shoulder surgery this morning. While 
> I was in surgery, I had my son's daily driver, and a W124 impounded. We have 
> emissions testing here (Porter and Lake counties Indiana) and I got the Neon 
> passed the other day (small evap leak). The emissions test in the most 
> stringent in the country. It allows for NO monitor not ready conditions. IL 
> allows one or two, as does CA. Both cars are plated and registered, awaiting 
> plates. I don't drive the W,124, so I didn't feel it necessary to plate it, 
> until it got stickered. It was towed because it was "inoperable". It has a 
> low tire and a flat battery. $400 later I have my cars back. Both cars have 
> current registration, but the plates for the Neon came in the mail today, and 
> I expect the Mercedes plate tomorrow.
>
> If you think FOR ONE MINUTE that you ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING, you are 
> delusional. Try to own ANYTHING without paying the annual fees, property 
> taxes, HOA fees, insurance, ect.  God help you if you have an unexpected 
> medical expense. Your wages will be garnished and in most states your 
> property will have liens set against it.
>
> Explain to me this concept of ownership.
> I am a simple, uneducated, layman, maybe I just am too ignorant to grasp it.
>
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Towed off of your property? Or were they parked in the street?

Here there's a pretty good chance of a non-plated car parked in the street 
being towed eventually. Never heard of it happening on one's own private 
property.

Some HOAs have rules against having a non-plated car, boat/trailer parking, etc.

Allan


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> That day is already here. I went in for shoulder surgery this morning. While 
> I was in surgery, I had my son's daily driver, and a W124 impounded. We have 
> emissions testing here (Porter and Lake counties Indiana) and I got the Neon 
> passed the other day (small evap leak). The emissions test in the most 
> stringent in the country. It allows for NO monitor not ready conditions. IL 
> allows one or two, as does CA. Both cars are plated and registered, awaiting 
> plates. I don't drive the W,124, so I didn't feel it necessary to plate it, 
> until it got stickered. It was towed because it was "inoperable". It has a 
> low tire and a flat battery. $400 later I have my cars back. Both cars have 
> current registration, but the plates for the Neon came in the mail today, and 
> I expect the Mercedes plate tomorrow.
> 
> If you think FOR ONE MINUTE that you ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING, you are 
> delusional. Try to own ANYTHING without paying the annual fees, property 
> taxes, HOA fees, insurance, ect.  God help you if you have an unexpected 
> medical expense. Your wages will be garnished and in most states your 
> property will have liens set against it.
> 
> Explain to me this concept of ownership.
> I am a simple, uneducated, layman, maybe I just am too ignorant to grasp it.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
That day is already here. I went in for shoulder surgery this morning. While I 
was in surgery, I had my son's daily driver, and a W124 impounded. We have 
emissions testing here (Porter and Lake counties Indiana) and I got the Neon 
passed the other day (small evap leak). The emissions test in the most 
stringent in the country. It allows for NO monitor not ready conditions. IL 
allows one or two, as does CA. Both cars are plated and registered, awaiting 
plates. I don't drive the W,124, so I didn't feel it necessary to plate it, 
until it got stickered. It was towed because it was "inoperable". It has a low 
tire and a flat battery. $400 later I have my cars back. Both cars have current 
registration, but the plates for the Neon came in the mail today, and I expect 
the Mercedes plate tomorrow.

If you think FOR ONE MINUTE that you ACTUALLY OWN ANYTHING, you are delusional. 
Try to own ANYTHING without paying the annual fees, property taxes, HOA fees, 
insurance, ect.  God help you if you have an unexpected medical expense. Your 
wages will be garnished and in most states your property will have liens set 
against it.

Explain to me this concept of ownership.
I am a simple, uneducated, layman, maybe I just am too ignorant to grasp it.


Rick

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I think the day is coming where we will no longer own cars, you will 
license/lease them, with various options and features enabled or disabled, just 
like software. Used cars as we know them today won't exist. You'll simply 
return the car to the dealer and they will reset the options and relicense it 
to the next tenant. The other model will be short-term rentals (hours/days) for 
people who only need a car occasionally.

Most people won't care, to them a car is a monthly payment either way.




On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> Shades of John Deere.
> Thanks for paying $$ for that S classe.
> For an additional $575/yr, we'll enable the rear wheel steering that's
> standard in USA...
>
> For the first time, I respect MBUSA more than I respect DBAG.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rvOAGT6mw
>
>
> The electric sedan already has the necessary hardware for this feature,
> but it's blocked by the software. Rear-wheel steering isn't a new
> technology as it has been around for decades, with the Nissan R31
> Skyline pioneering the system back in 1985. That said, Mercedes has
> managed to take it to a whole new level with its flagship combustion and
> electric cars, as the latest S-Class and EQS boast the most advanced
> version ever fitted to a production vehicle.
>
> On the EQS, the rear wheels have a standard steering angle of up to 4.5
> degrees, but in other markets, it comes with an optional feature
> increasing the angle to 10 degrees – this advanced tech is actually
> standard on the US-market car, however. In the case of the EV, the
> turning circle drops to 10.9 meters (35.7 feet), which is mighty
> impressive for such a large car. It turns the rear wheels in the
> opposite direction to the front wheels at speeds of up to 60 km/h (37
> mph) to reduce the turning circle. Above that velocity, all four wheels
> turn in the same direction to improve stability and sharpen up handling.
>
> How does it work? According to Mercedes: "An electric motor drives a
> spindle at the rear axle via a drive belt. This makes axial adjustments
> to the spindle."
>
> The more advanced setup is offered as standard equipment in the United
> States, but at home in Germany, the EQS comes fitted with the lesser
> configuration of RWS. You can have 10-degree steering as an optional
> feature when ordering the car, and Mercedes is providing another way to
> gain access to the tech even after taking delivery of the fullsize
> electric sedan.
>
> With cars becoming rolling computers, Mercedes is cramming more and more
> tech while providing support for over-the-air updates. The EQS is a
> relevant example as owners can activate the 10-degree rear-wheel
> steering post-purchase courtesy of an OTA update. It effectively means
> the vehicle has this feature from the get-go, but it's blocked by the
> software. Unlocking it costs €489 (about $575) annually, but if you get
> a three-year subscription, you'll get a €300 ($353) discount by paying
> only €1,169 ($1,376).
>
> Ordering the more sophisticated steering system requires the parking
> package with a 360-degree camera, as it's the case with the S-Class.
> Interestingly, the tech can't be had if the car is running on mixed
> tires, which isn't the case for EQS as only its combustion-engined
> equivalent uses that type of rubber. Activating all-wheel steering takes
> about two minutes after turning off the car before switching it on
> again.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Free burger with the purchase of any Hoovie POS.

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> Freddy's and Culver's are basically copycats of each other; I think
> Culvers came first but I'm not sure of that. We have one of each here.
>
> Allan
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 8:27 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> > A Midwest restaurant chain is bringing its first Charleston-area
> location to the edge of Summerville.
> >
> > Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers plans to open in a newly
> constructed building at 4540 Ladson Road, possibly by late September.The
> building is now under construction on an outparcel in front of Ladson
> Oakbrook Shopping Center next to Stars and Strikes bowling and arcade
> center on the edge of Summerville.
> > Based in Wichita, Kan., Freddy's has four other locations in South
> Carolina with three in the Columbia area and a newly opened restaurant in
> Florence.
> >
> > A company spokeswoman said she did not know of any other restaurants
> planned for the Charleston region, but Chad Billings of the real estate
> firm KW Commercial said his team has been working with the owner to add
> four more locations in the Lowcountry.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In order to take advantage of all this amazing technology, I will have to
take lessons in becoming a really bad and clueless driver.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 3:05 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> You will own nothing and you will be happy.  Just wait until FedCoin.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
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>
> I think the day is coming where we will no longer own cars, you will
> license/lease them, with various options and features enabled or disabled,
> just like software. Used cars as we know them today won't exist. You'll
> simply return the car to the dealer and they will reset the options and
> relicense it to the next tenant. The other model will be short-term rentals
> (hours/days) for people who only need a car occasionally.
>
> Most people won't care, to them a car is a monthly payment either way.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> > Shades of John Deere.
> > Thanks for paying $$ for that S classe.
> > For an additional $575/yr, we'll enable the rear wheel steering that's
> > standard in USA...
> >
> > For the first time, I respect MBUSA more than I respect DBAG.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rvOAGT6mw
> >
> >
> > The electric sedan already has the necessary hardware for this
> > feature, but it's blocked by the software. Rear-wheel steering isn't a
> > new technology as it has been around for decades, with the Nissan R31
> > Skyline pioneering the system back in 1985. That said, Mercedes has
> > managed to take it to a whole new level with its flagship combustion
> > and electric cars, as the latest S-Class and EQS boast the most
> > advanced version ever fitted to a production vehicle.
> >
> > On the EQS, the rear wheels have a standard steering angle of up to
> > 4.5 degrees, but in other markets, it comes with an optional feature
> > increasing the angle to 10 degrees – this advanced tech is actually
> > standard on the US-market car, however. In the case of the EV, the
> > turning circle drops to 10.9 meters (35.7 feet), which is mighty
> > impressive for such a large car. It turns the rear wheels in the
> > opposite direction to the front wheels at speeds of up to 60 km/h (37
> > mph) to reduce the turning circle. Above that velocity, all four
> > wheels turn in the same direction to improve stability and sharpen up
> handling.
> >
> > How does it work? According to Mercedes: "An electric motor drives a
> > spindle at the rear axle via a drive belt. This makes axial
> > adjustments to the spindle."
> >
> > The more advanced setup is offered as standard equipment in the United
> > States, but at home in Germany, the EQS comes fitted with the lesser
> > configuration of RWS. You can have 10-degree steering as an optional
> > feature when ordering the car, and Mercedes is providing another way
> > to gain access to the tech even after taking delivery of the fullsize
> > electric sedan.
> >
> > With cars becoming rolling computers, Mercedes is cramming more and
> > more tech while providing support for over-the-air updates. The EQS is
> > a relevant example as owners can activate the 10-degree rear-wheel
> > steering post-purchase courtesy of an OTA update. It effectively means
> > the vehicle has this feature from the get-go, but it's blocked by the
> > software. Unlocking it costs €489 (about $575) annually, but if you
> > get a three-year subscription, you'll get a €300 ($353) discount by
> > paying only €1,169 ($1,376).
> >
> > Ordering the more sophisticated steering system requires the parking
> > package with a 360-degree camera, as it's the case with the S-Class.
> > Interestingly, the tech can't be had if the car is running on mixed
> > tires, which isn't the case for EQS as only its combustion-engined
> > equivalent uses that type of rubber. Activating all-wheel steering
> > takes about two minutes after turning off the car before switching it
> > on again.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
You will own nothing and you will be happy.  Just wait until FedCoin.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 12:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

I think the day is coming where we will no longer own cars, you will 
license/lease them, with various options and features enabled or disabled, just 
like software. Used cars as we know them today won't exist. You'll simply 
return the car to the dealer and they will reset the options and relicense it 
to the next tenant. The other model will be short-term rentals (hours/days) for 
people who only need a car occasionally.

Most people won't care, to them a car is a monthly payment either way.




On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> Shades of John Deere.
> Thanks for paying $$ for that S classe.
> For an additional $575/yr, we'll enable the rear wheel steering that's 
> standard in USA...
> 
> For the first time, I respect MBUSA more than I respect DBAG.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rvOAGT6mw
> 
> 
> The electric sedan already has the necessary hardware for this 
> feature, but it's blocked by the software. Rear-wheel steering isn't a 
> new technology as it has been around for decades, with the Nissan R31 
> Skyline pioneering the system back in 1985. That said, Mercedes has 
> managed to take it to a whole new level with its flagship combustion 
> and electric cars, as the latest S-Class and EQS boast the most 
> advanced version ever fitted to a production vehicle.
> 
> On the EQS, the rear wheels have a standard steering angle of up to 
> 4.5 degrees, but in other markets, it comes with an optional feature 
> increasing the angle to 10 degrees – this advanced tech is actually 
> standard on the US-market car, however. In the case of the EV, the 
> turning circle drops to 10.9 meters (35.7 feet), which is mighty 
> impressive for such a large car. It turns the rear wheels in the 
> opposite direction to the front wheels at speeds of up to 60 km/h (37
> mph) to reduce the turning circle. Above that velocity, all four 
> wheels turn in the same direction to improve stability and sharpen up 
> handling.
> 
> How does it work? According to Mercedes: "An electric motor drives a 
> spindle at the rear axle via a drive belt. This makes axial 
> adjustments to the spindle."
> 
> The more advanced setup is offered as standard equipment in the United 
> States, but at home in Germany, the EQS comes fitted with the lesser 
> configuration of RWS. You can have 10-degree steering as an optional 
> feature when ordering the car, and Mercedes is providing another way 
> to gain access to the tech even after taking delivery of the fullsize 
> electric sedan.
> 
> With cars becoming rolling computers, Mercedes is cramming more and 
> more tech while providing support for over-the-air updates. The EQS is 
> a relevant example as owners can activate the 10-degree rear-wheel 
> steering post-purchase courtesy of an OTA update. It effectively means 
> the vehicle has this feature from the get-go, but it's blocked by the 
> software. Unlocking it costs €489 (about $575) annually, but if you 
> get a three-year subscription, you'll get a €300 ($353) discount by 
> paying only €1,169 ($1,376).
> 
> Ordering the more sophisticated steering system requires the parking 
> package with a 360-degree camera, as it's the case with the S-Class.
> Interestingly, the tech can't be had if the car is running on mixed 
> tires, which isn't the case for EQS as only its combustion-engined 
> equivalent uses that type of rubber. Activating all-wheel steering 
> takes about two minutes after turning off the car before switching it 
> on again.
> 
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[MBZ] 1995 COLECTORS ITEM MERCEDES-BENZ S 500 COUPE - LORINSER/ RENNTECH BODY KIT WIHT $10981

2021-07-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
EVERITHING WORKS US IT SHOULD ACE COLD AC

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Re: [MBZ] 1999 SL500 - 78k miles - $5,000

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Your offer won't be considered.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Needs new top - $1500. Radio inop. Rebuilt salvage title. $3k max
> 
> -FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Jul 29, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > "I am very very firm on $5,000.00 cash any offer less won't be considered."
> > 
> > https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1999-mercedes-benz-sl500/7357679921.html
> > 
> > Allan
> 
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[MBZ] Very Low miles 140 S600

2021-07-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/37DzqVzA/1995-mercedesbenz-s600

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Re: [MBZ] 1999 SL500 - 78k miles - $5,000

2021-07-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Needs new top - $1500. Radio inop. Rebuilt salvage title. $3k max

-FT

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> On Jul 29, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "I am very very firm on $5,000.00 cash any offer less won't be considered."
> 
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1999-mercedes-benz-sl500/7357679921.html
> 
> Allan
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[MBZ] 1999 SL500 - 78k miles - $5,000

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
"I am very very firm on $5,000.00 cash any offer less won't be considered."

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1999-mercedes-benz-sl500/7357679921.html

Allan

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[MBZ] 2011 Sprinter Bluetec - 254k miles - $12,000

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Possible camper conversion base?

New emissions system, DEF and exhaust w/extended warranty.

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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I think the day is coming where we will no longer own cars, you will 
license/lease them, with various options and features enabled or disabled, just 
like software. Used cars as we know them today won't exist. You'll simply 
return the car to the dealer and they will reset the options and relicense it 
to the next tenant. The other model will be short-term rentals (hours/days) for 
people who only need a car occasionally.

Most people won't care, to them a car is a monthly payment either way.




On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> Shades of John Deere.
> Thanks for paying $$ for that S classe.
> For an additional $575/yr, we'll enable the rear wheel steering that's 
> standard in USA...
> 
> For the first time, I respect MBUSA more than I respect DBAG.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rvOAGT6mw
> 
> 
> The electric sedan already has the necessary hardware for this feature, 
> but it's blocked by the software. Rear-wheel steering isn't a new 
> technology as it has been around for decades, with the Nissan R31 
> Skyline pioneering the system back in 1985. That said, Mercedes has 
> managed to take it to a whole new level with its flagship combustion and 
> electric cars, as the latest S-Class and EQS boast the most advanced 
> version ever fitted to a production vehicle.
> 
> On the EQS, the rear wheels have a standard steering angle of up to 4.5 
> degrees, but in other markets, it comes with an optional feature 
> increasing the angle to 10 degrees – this advanced tech is actually 
> standard on the US-market car, however. In the case of the EV, the 
> turning circle drops to 10.9 meters (35.7 feet), which is mighty 
> impressive for such a large car. It turns the rear wheels in the 
> opposite direction to the front wheels at speeds of up to 60 km/h (37 
> mph) to reduce the turning circle. Above that velocity, all four wheels 
> turn in the same direction to improve stability and sharpen up handling.
> 
> How does it work? According to Mercedes: "An electric motor drives a 
> spindle at the rear axle via a drive belt. This makes axial adjustments 
> to the spindle."
> 
> The more advanced setup is offered as standard equipment in the United 
> States, but at home in Germany, the EQS comes fitted with the lesser 
> configuration of RWS. You can have 10-degree steering as an optional 
> feature when ordering the car, and Mercedes is providing another way to 
> gain access to the tech even after taking delivery of the fullsize 
> electric sedan.
> 
> With cars becoming rolling computers, Mercedes is cramming more and more 
> tech while providing support for over-the-air updates. The EQS is a 
> relevant example as owners can activate the 10-degree rear-wheel 
> steering post-purchase courtesy of an OTA update. It effectively means 
> the vehicle has this feature from the get-go, but it's blocked by the 
> software. Unlocking it costs €489 (about $575) annually, but if you get 
> a three-year subscription, you'll get a €300 ($353) discount by paying 
> only €1,169 ($1,376).
> 
> Ordering the more sophisticated steering system requires the parking 
> package with a 360-degree camera, as it's the case with the S-Class. 
> Interestingly, the tech can't be had if the car is running on mixed 
> tires, which isn't the case for EQS as only its combustion-engined 
> equivalent uses that type of rubber. Activating all-wheel steering takes 
> about two minutes after turning off the car before switching it on 
> again.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Freddy's and Culver's are basically copycats of each other; I think Culvers 
came first but I'm not sure of that. We have one of each here.

Allan

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, at 8:27 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> A Midwest restaurant chain is bringing its first Charleston-area location to 
> the edge of Summerville.
> 
> Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers plans to open in a newly constructed 
> building at 4540 Ladson Road, possibly by late September.The building is now 
> under construction on an outparcel in front of Ladson Oakbrook Shopping 
> Center next to Stars and Strikes bowling and arcade center on the edge of 
> Summerville.
> Based in Wichita, Kan., Freddy's has four other locations in South Carolina 
> with three in the Columbia area and a newly opened restaurant in Florence.
> 
> A company spokeswoman said she did not know of any other restaurants planned 
> for the Charleston region, but Chad Billings of the real estate firm KW 
> Commercial said his team has been working with the owner to add four more 
> locations in the Lowcountry.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

2021-07-29 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
"Not more than a few minutes without overheating" speaks loudly of a
blown head gasket and intrusion of combustion gasses into the cooling
system... cooling system holds about 16 psi... compression gases make
140 +- at 400 F, so compression blows into coolant and makes it hot,
quickly.
Quick check, Open coolant tank, start engine, look for bubbles and surging
of coolant as cylinder pressure pushes out. If it does, head gasket is
leaking.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 5:03 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is 177k miles about when a head gasket job is required on those?
>
> Knock off a grand and that could be a deal.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Jul 28, 2021 3:55:37 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>
> > Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t
> seem too bad unless head has warped
> >
> >
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-1993-mb-300ce/7357588477.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

on 29/07/2021 7:27 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:


Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers

Freddy must have eaten at a Culver's and liked it.

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Re: [MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I loathe software subscriptions. Unfortunately my employer loves them...
As Tom Petty wrote "As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to 
see. How much you'll pay for what you used to get for free"
-Curt


On Thursday, July 29, 2021, 11:17:09 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Shades of John Deere.
Thanks for paying $$ for that S classe.
For an additional $575/yr, we'll enable the rear wheel steering that's 
standard in USA...

For the first time, I respect MBUSA more than I respect DBAG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rvOAGT6mw


The electric sedan already has the necessary hardware for this feature, 
but it's blocked by the software. Rear-wheel steering isn't a new 
technology as it has been around for decades, with the Nissan R31 
Skyline pioneering the system back in 1985. That said, Mercedes has 
managed to take it to a whole new level with its flagship combustion and 
electric cars, as the latest S-Class and EQS boast the most advanced 
version ever fitted to a production vehicle.

On the EQS, the rear wheels have a standard steering angle of up to 4.5 
degrees, but in other markets, it comes with an optional feature 
increasing the angle to 10 degrees – this advanced tech is actually 
standard on the US-market car, however. In the case of the EV, the 
turning circle drops to 10.9 meters (35.7 feet), which is mighty 
impressive for such a large car. It turns the rear wheels in the 
opposite direction to the front wheels at speeds of up to 60 km/h (37 
mph) to reduce the turning circle. Above that velocity, all four wheels 
turn in the same direction to improve stability and sharpen up handling.

How does it work? According to Mercedes: "An electric motor drives a 
spindle at the rear axle via a drive belt. This makes axial adjustments 
to the spindle."

The more advanced setup is offered as standard equipment in the United 
States, but at home in Germany, the EQS comes fitted with the lesser 
configuration of RWS. You can have 10-degree steering as an optional 
feature when ordering the car, and Mercedes is providing another way to 
gain access to the tech even after taking delivery of the fullsize 
electric sedan.

With cars becoming rolling computers, Mercedes is cramming more and more 
tech while providing support for over-the-air updates. The EQS is a 
relevant example as owners can activate the 10-degree rear-wheel 
steering post-purchase courtesy of an OTA update. It effectively means 
the vehicle has this feature from the get-go, but it's blocked by the 
software. Unlocking it costs €489 (about $575) annually, but if you get 
a three-year subscription, you'll get a €300 ($353) discount by paying 
only €1,169 ($1,376).

Ordering the more sophisticated steering system requires the parking 
package with a 360-degree camera, as it's the case with the S-Class. 
Interestingly, the tech can't be had if the car is running on mixed 
tires, which isn't the case for EQS as only its combustion-engined 
equivalent uses that type of rubber. Activating all-wheel steering takes 
about two minutes after turning off the car before switching it on 
again.

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[MBZ] MBZ charging for software subscriptions

2021-07-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Shades of John Deere.
Thanks for paying $$ for that S classe.
For an additional $575/yr, we'll enable the rear wheel steering that's 
standard in USA...


For the first time, I respect MBUSA more than I respect DBAG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rvOAGT6mw


The electric sedan already has the necessary hardware for this feature, 
but it's blocked by the software. Rear-wheel steering isn't a new 
technology as it has been around for decades, with the Nissan R31 
Skyline pioneering the system back in 1985. That said, Mercedes has 
managed to take it to a whole new level with its flagship combustion and 
electric cars, as the latest S-Class and EQS boast the most advanced 
version ever fitted to a production vehicle.


On the EQS, the rear wheels have a standard steering angle of up to 4.5 
degrees, but in other markets, it comes with an optional feature 
increasing the angle to 10 degrees – this advanced tech is actually 
standard on the US-market car, however. In the case of the EV, the 
turning circle drops to 10.9 meters (35.7 feet), which is mighty 
impressive for such a large car. It turns the rear wheels in the 
opposite direction to the front wheels at speeds of up to 60 km/h (37 
mph) to reduce the turning circle. Above that velocity, all four wheels 
turn in the same direction to improve stability and sharpen up handling.


How does it work? According to Mercedes: "An electric motor drives a 
spindle at the rear axle via a drive belt. This makes axial adjustments 
to the spindle."


The more advanced setup is offered as standard equipment in the United 
States, but at home in Germany, the EQS comes fitted with the lesser 
configuration of RWS. You can have 10-degree steering as an optional 
feature when ordering the car, and Mercedes is providing another way to 
gain access to the tech even after taking delivery of the fullsize 
electric sedan.


With cars becoming rolling computers, Mercedes is cramming more and more 
tech while providing support for over-the-air updates. The EQS is a 
relevant example as owners can activate the 10-degree rear-wheel 
steering post-purchase courtesy of an OTA update. It effectively means 
the vehicle has this feature from the get-go, but it's blocked by the 
software. Unlocking it costs €489 (about $575) annually, but if you get 
a three-year subscription, you'll get a €300 ($353) discount by paying 
only €1,169 ($1,376).


Ordering the more sophisticated steering system requires the parking 
package with a 360-degree camera, as it's the case with the S-Class. 
Interestingly, the tech can't be had if the car is running on mixed 
tires, which isn't the case for EQS as only its combustion-engined 
equivalent uses that type of rubber. Activating all-wheel steering takes 
about two minutes after turning off the car before switching it on 
again.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Hoovie does not own the chain, him
And his dad own a few franchise locations 

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> On Jul 29, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah his dad and him too I guess
> 
> -FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2021, at 5:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hoovie owns that chain?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 8:28 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A Midwest restaurant chain is bringing its first Charleston-area location
>>> to the edge of Summerville.
>>> 
>>> Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers plans to open in a newly
>>> constructed building at 4540 Ladson Road, possibly by late September.The
>>> building is now under construction on an outparcel in front of Ladson
>>> Oakbrook Shopping Center next to Stars and Strikes bowling and arcade
>>> center on the edge of Summerville.
>>> Based in Wichita, Kan., Freddy's has four other locations in South
>>> Carolina with three in the Columbia area and a newly opened restaurant in
>>> Florence.
>>> 
>>> A company spokeswoman said she did not know of any other restaurants
>>> planned for the Charleston region, but Chad Billings of the real estate
>>> firm KW Commercial said his team has been working with the owner to add
>>> four more locations in the Lowcountry.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Need some kind of customer reward plan, every meal counts as $1 toward your bid 
on Hoovie's next jalopy for sale

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jul 29, 2021 8:49:41 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :

> Yeah his dad and him too I guess
> 
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>> On Jul 29, 2021, at 5:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hoovie owns that chain?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 8:28 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A Midwest restaurant chain is bringing its first Charleston-area location
>>> to the edge of Summerville.
>>> 
>>> Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers plans to open in a newly
>>> constructed building at 4540 Ladson Road, possibly by late September.The
>>> building is now under construction on an outparcel in front of Ladson
>>> Oakbrook Shopping Center next to Stars and Strikes bowling and arcade
>>> center on the edge of Summerville.
>>> Based in Wichita, Kan., Freddy's has four other locations in South
>>> Carolina with three in the Columbia area and a newly opened restaurant in
>>> Florence.
>>> 
>>> A company spokeswoman said she did not know of any other restaurants
>>> planned for the Charleston region, but Chad Billings of the real estate
>>> firm KW Commercial said his team has been working with the owner to add
>>> four more locations in the Lowcountry.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah his dad and him too I guess

-FT

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> On Jul 29, 2021, at 5:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hoovie owns that chain?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 8:28 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> A Midwest restaurant chain is bringing its first Charleston-area location
>> to the edge of Summerville.
>> 
>> Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers plans to open in a newly
>> constructed building at 4540 Ladson Road, possibly by late September.The
>> building is now under construction on an outparcel in front of Ladson
>> Oakbrook Shopping Center next to Stars and Strikes bowling and arcade
>> center on the edge of Summerville.
>> Based in Wichita, Kan., Freddy's has four other locations in South
>> Carolina with three in the Columbia area and a newly opened restaurant in
>> Florence.
>> 
>> A company spokeswoman said she did not know of any other restaurants
>> planned for the Charleston region, but Chad Billings of the real estate
>> firm KW Commercial said his team has been working with the owner to add
>> four more locations in the Lowcountry.
>> 
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[MBZ] One owner but someone else owned it before and broke it 08R350 $3500

2021-07-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Fair price with all the issues.  No doubt. 

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/monroe-mercedes/7357221667.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Hoovie owns that chain?
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> A Midwest restaurant chain is bringing its first Charleston-area location
> to the edge of Summerville.
>
> Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers plans to open in a newly
> constructed building at 4540 Ladson Road, possibly by late September.The
> building is now under construction on an outparcel in front of Ladson
> Oakbrook Shopping Center next to Stars and Strikes bowling and arcade
> center on the edge of Summerville.
> Based in Wichita, Kan., Freddy's has four other locations in South
> Carolina with three in the Columbia area and a newly opened restaurant in
> Florence.
>
> A company spokeswoman said she did not know of any other restaurants
> planned for the Charleston region, but Chad Billings of the real estate
> firm KW Commercial said his team has been working with the owner to add
> four more locations in the Lowcountry.
>
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Re: [MBZ] I’ll be moving…

2021-07-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Good luck with the sale and move!  Join us on the okietalk list and let's
have a real dialogue.

Why so eager to be rid of the Sprinter?
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> To North Carolina! Oregon’s cost of living and property taxes just
> continue to climb, and our state is becoming a cesspool of homelessness and
> criminal activity. Added to all this, our HOA is full of negativity and
> drama, so we started looking for someplace else to live. My BIL lives in
> Lexington, NC, and things are much more peaceful there. We put our deposit
> on a 2501SqFt home on 1.23 acres which is currently under construction. The
> price is about half what our current Oregon home is worth, so we can pay
> off our lone and other debt and still have enough to put about half down on
> the new house. I’ve decided to sell our Sprinter to get more liquidity to
> move our stuff out, get a temporary rental and wait while our house sells.
> You can bet I won’t get a Blutec Diesel Sprinter next time!
> Kevin, moving out of Hillsboro, Oregon
> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB, 3500mi, Low Mileage Lutgart, soon to be
> up for sale
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, soon to be up for sale as well if the
> darned shop ever calls me back!!
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Re: [MBZ] So what would be a reasonable offer on this dead 05E320 wagon

2021-07-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That’s what I’m thinking too

-FT

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> Given the current rate of inflation under the Biden* regime and the supply 
> chain disruptions caused by the scamdemic, I think $1500 would be generous.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
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> Jul 28, 2021 4:08:58 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>> I’m going to go take a look at it when I get back home. Basically like the 
>> wagon I have not 4matic though. Woman said the owner was told it needed 
>> (apparently) a new ECU (or some computer) to make it run.  “She said all the 
>> lights come on and battery is new. The dealership said it’s a small computer 
>> glitch.   Just the kind for that model. It’s about 1000 at the dealership“ 
>> 
>> I’ll take my scanner and see what it shows. If it’s the ECU a new one will 
>> need to be cloned so $1k is probably about right. But then it would be a $4k 
>> car at least I would think.
>> 
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[MBZ] OT Hoovie coming to Chastun area

2021-07-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
A Midwest restaurant chain is bringing its first Charleston-area location to 
the edge of Summerville.

Freddy's Frozen Custard & Steakburgers plans to open in a newly constructed 
building at 4540 Ladson Road, possibly by late September.The building is now 
under construction on an outparcel in front of Ladson Oakbrook Shopping Center 
next to Stars and Strikes bowling and arcade center on the edge of Summerville.
Based in Wichita, Kan., Freddy's has four other locations in South Carolina 
with three in the Columbia area and a newly opened restaurant in Florence.

A company spokeswoman said she did not know of any other restaurants planned 
for the Charleston region, but Chad Billings of the real estate firm KW 
Commercial said his team has been working with the owner to add four more 
locations in the Lowcountry.


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Re: [MBZ] So what would be a reasonable offer on this dead 05E320 wagon

2021-07-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Given the current rate of inflation under the Biden* regime and the supply 
chain disruptions caused by the scamdemic, I think $1500 would be generous.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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> I’m going to go take a look at it when I get back home. Basically like the 
> wagon I have not 4matic though. Woman said the owner was told it needed 
> (apparently) a new ECU (or some computer) to make it run.  “She said all the 
> lights come on and battery is new. The dealership said it’s a small computer 
> glitch.   Just the kind for that model. It’s about 1000 at the dealership“ 
> 
> I’ll take my scanner and see what it shows. If it’s the ECU a new one will 
> need to be cloned so $1k is probably about right. But then it would be a $4k 
> car at least I would think.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

2021-07-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Is 177k miles about when a head gasket job is required on those?

Knock off a grand and that could be a deal.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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> Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t seem 
> too bad unless head has warped
> 
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-1993-mb-300ce/7357588477.html
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