Re: [MBZ] Barn find 1976 Mercedes 300D and 220D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Never bet against the ability to start a long dormant Mercedes diesel.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 9:50 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> Nice work, buddy boy. The sound of those makes me feel young.
>
> AZBob
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> > On Dec 3, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It probably would have started immediately but the connection at the
> bleeder was leaking so it was sucking air.  I knew I was not getting it
> bled properly and suspected a leak somewhere but could not tell where till
> after it ran.
> >
> > Tomorrow I will try to get the 220D to run.  I did try it afterwards but
> my battery was too low.  It turned over but sounded like it did not have
> any compression.  I tried it again and that time it did sound like it might
> try to fire so I have the battery charging and will try it tomorrow.  Worse
> case I have an engine for it but would prefer to get this one going.  The
> story with it was they had it rebuilt and within a short period of time it
> started making noise.  So who knows.
> >
> >> On 12/3/2021 8:14 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Attaboy!!! I just love the sound of the 617 engines!!
> >> Kevin in Lexington, NC
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

When we all should have stopped listening to Geraldo.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Like Al Capone s safe
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>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 9:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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>> We used to call that a non-story.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 6:54 PM mitch--- via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Like Al Capone s safe

--FT
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> On Dec 3, 2021, at 9:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> We used to call that a non-story.
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 6:54 PM mitch--- via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560SEL - 187k miles - $5,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Link might have been mangled.

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-1989-mercedes-benz-560-sel/7415907453.html


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> Looks fairly nice, normal wear but nothing really screaming neglect or 
> abuse. Price seems a little high but maybe worth it depending how far 
> you'd need to go to find a better example.
>
> "Only have 1 ignition key, no door key" implies ignition lock was 
> replaced? I assume doors and ignition were keyed alike on these like 
> the other MBs I've had.
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[MBZ] 2007 S550 - 235k miles - $6,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Higher miles. M273? Did these have the "guide idler gear" issue mentioned on 
https://www.mercedesmedic.com/check-my-mercedes-benz-for-balance-shaft-issue-by-vin-m272273/?

Looks nice cosmetically.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-2007-mercedes-benz-s550/7415929066.html
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We used to call that a non-story.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 6:54 PM mitch--- via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] 1989 560SEL - 187k miles - $5,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks fairly nice, normal wear but nothing really screaming neglect or abuse. 
Price seems a little high but maybe worth it depending how far you'd need to go 
to find a better example.

"Only have 1 ignition key, no door key" implies ignition lock was replaced? I 
assume doors and ignition were keyed alike on these like the other MBs I've had.

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-1989-mercedes-benz-560-sel/7415907453.htm
 

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Re: [MBZ] Barn find 1976 Mercedes 300D and 220D

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Nice work, buddy boy. The sound of those makes me feel young. 

AZBob

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> On Dec 3, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It probably would have started immediately but the connection at the bleeder 
> was leaking so it was sucking air.  I knew I was not getting it bled properly 
> and suspected a leak somewhere but could not tell where till after it ran.
> 
> Tomorrow I will try to get the 220D to run.  I did try it afterwards but my 
> battery was too low.  It turned over but sounded like it did not have any 
> compression.  I tried it again and that time it did sound like it might try 
> to fire so I have the battery charging and will try it tomorrow.  Worse case 
> I have an engine for it but would prefer to get this one going.  The story 
> with it was they had it rebuilt and within a short period of time it started 
> making noise.  So who knows.
> 
>> On 12/3/2021 8:14 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>> Attaboy!!! I just love the sound of the 617 engines!!
>> Kevin in Lexington, NC
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Dec 3, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find 1976 Mercedes 300D and 220D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It probably would have started immediately but the connection at the 
bleeder was leaking so it was sucking air.  I knew I was not getting it 
bled properly and suspected a leak somewhere but could not tell where 
till after it ran.


Tomorrow I will try to get the 220D to run.  I did try it afterwards but 
my battery was too low.  It turned over but sounded like it did not have 
any compression.  I tried it again and that time it did sound like it 
might try to fire so I have the battery charging and will try it 
tomorrow.  Worse case I have an engine for it but would prefer to get 
this one going.  The story with it was they had it rebuilt and within a 
short period of time it started making noise.  So who knows.


On 12/3/2021 8:14 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

Attaboy!!! I just love the sound of the 617 engines!!
Kevin in Lexington, NC

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 3, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

https://youtu.be/NzHOQzIay28


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Re: [MBZ] Barn find 1976 Mercedes 300D and 220D

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Attaboy!!! I just love the sound of the 617 engines!!
Kevin in Lexington, NC

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[MBZ] Barn find 1976 Mercedes 300D and 220D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/NzHOQzIay28


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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

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https://www.amazon.com/Practice-Emergency-Kit-Tool-Gun/dp/B09LHYD29S/


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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

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They lost the key, and could never put anything in it!

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 4:43 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I drilled it out. Just your basic drawer lock kind of thing with a
> rotating catch. There’s one screw in the back holding it in. I suppose I
> could put some generic lock in.
>
> Oh, and the drawer was empty… which begs why it was locked.
>
> --FT
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> > On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here’s the deal based on the EPC:
> >
> > The key and lock are sold a a unit, meaning they don’t source the key
> separately, nor could they identify it. So your choice is to find a cheaper
> locksmith, or just spend $50 to buy the whole shebang at the stealership.
> >
> > 163 890 02 89 - Cylinder and keys
> >
> > That or drill it and find a generic replacement lock and key. I’m sure
> it’s pretty generic.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands.
> Coupla (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too
> busy. Guy comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out,
> they’re chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65
> to open it. I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a
> few minutes later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could
> probably open it with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much he
> says 65. I decline again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said
> this should take you like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off
> muttering something in russki. O. K.
> >>
> >> He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a
> go at that. Nothing to lose.
> >>
> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I drilled it out. Just your basic drawer lock kind of thing with a rotating 
catch. There’s one screw in the back holding it in. I suppose I could put some 
generic lock in. 

Oh, and the drawer was empty… which begs why it was locked. 

--FT
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> On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here’s the deal based on the EPC:
> 
> The key and lock are sold a a unit, meaning they don’t source the key 
> separately, nor could they identify it. So your choice is to find a cheaper 
> locksmith, or just spend $50 to buy the whole shebang at the stealership.
> 
> 163 890 02 89 - Cylinder and keys
> 
> That or drill it and find a generic replacement lock and key. I’m sure it’s 
> pretty generic.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. 
>> Coupla (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too 
>> busy. Guy comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, 
>> they’re chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to 
>> open it. I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few 
>> minutes later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could probably 
>> open it with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. 
>> I decline again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said this should 
>> take you like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something 
>> in russki. O. K. 
>> 
>> He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
>> that. Nothing to lose. 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

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Find a cheaper locksmith is my vote. $65 is a crazy price to open a simple lock 
that you are bringing to them. I could maybe see it if they had to drive out 
somewhere.


On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, at 5:34 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Here’s the deal based on the EPC:
>
> The key and lock are sold a a unit, meaning they don’t source the key 
> separately, nor could they identify it. So your choice is to find a 
> cheaper locksmith, or just spend $50 to buy the whole shebang at the 
> stealership.
>
> 163 890 02 89 - Cylinder and keys
>
> That or drill it and find a generic replacement lock and key. I’m sure 
> it’s pretty generic.
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. 
>> Coupla (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too 
>> busy. Guy comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, 
>> they’re chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to 
>> open it. I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few 
>> minutes later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could probably 
>> open it with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. 
>> I decline again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said this should 
>> take you like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something 
>> in russki. O. K. 
>> 
>> He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
>> that. Nothing to lose. 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

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Here’s the deal based on the EPC:

The key and lock are sold a a unit, meaning they don’t source the key 
separately, nor could they identify it. So your choice is to find a cheaper 
locksmith, or just spend $50 to buy the whole shebang at the stealership.

163 890 02 89 - Cylinder and keys

That or drill it and find a generic replacement lock and key. I’m sure it’s 
pretty generic.

-D

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 5:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. Coupla 
> (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too busy. Guy 
> comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, they’re 
> chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to open it. 
> I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few minutes 
> later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could probably open it 
> with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. I decline 
> again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said this should take you 
> like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something in russki. 
> O. K. 
> 
> He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
> that. Nothing to lose. 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I wonder what the price is for a Chevy instead of a Mercedes?


On 03/12/2021 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. Coupla 
(apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too busy. Guy 
comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, they’re chatting 
in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to open it. I politely 
declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few minutes later he comes 
back with a picking tool. He says he could probably open it with that, we go 
back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. I decline again. He asks 
what I was thinking to pay and I said this should take you like less than a 
minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something in russki. O. K.

He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
that. Nothing to lose.

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Attempt to pick it yourself. There must be youtube videos showing you how.


On 03/12/2021 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. Coupla 
(apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too busy. Guy 
comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, they’re chatting 
in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to open it. I politely 
declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few minutes later he comes 
back with a picking tool. He says he could probably open it with that, we go 
back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. I decline again. He asks 
what I was thinking to pay and I said this should take you like less than a 
minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something in russki. O. K.

He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
that. Nothing to lose.

--FT



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[MBZ] Seat tray lock

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. Coupla 
(apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too busy. Guy 
comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, they’re chatting 
in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to open it. I politely 
declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few minutes later he comes 
back with a picking tool. He says he could probably open it with that, we go 
back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. I decline again. He asks 
what I was thinking to pay and I said this should take you like less than a 
minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something in russki. O. K. 

He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
that. Nothing to lose. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I am not sure about how the blasting with water might affect the metal, 
but suspect it would be about the same ass basic sandblasting. It  will  
require that you use something to etch the surface of the metal. If you 
don't the paint will not stick properly. I don't recall a brand name but 
I have a bottle of fluid that I use to wash down areas that have been 
blasted.


On 03/12/2021 12:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I have always been told that sandblasting sheet metal will invariably warp it, 
requiring rework and more prep for painting. Don't know if that applies to the 
liquid sandblasting as I guess that would tend to keep the metal cool. And the 
sand gets everywhere and can be hard to remove from crevices.

For fine restoration work on valuable cars, chemical paint removal is better.

Allan





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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have always been told that sandblasting sheet metal will invariably warp it, 
requiring rework and more prep for painting. Don't know if that applies to the 
liquid sandblasting as I guess that would tend to keep the metal cool. And the 
sand gets everywhere and can be hard to remove from crevices.

For fine restoration work on valuable cars, chemical paint removal is better.

Allan


On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, at 12:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> That does sound like "the bees knees" for paint removal!
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 10:07 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> That one is just like what I bought years ago. Amazing, it's about the same
>> price. Mine has replaceable ceramic tips also. I rigged up a pressure pot
>> that feeds sand from the bottom instead of sucking it out of a bucket. That
>> improved the sand supply at the nozzle and resulted in more stripping
>> faster.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Amazon have them for cheap$27-35 (more expensive have replaceable
>> > nozzles which is probably worthwhile), might be worth picking one up to
>> > give it a go
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0856QHK8H
>> >
>> >
>> >   Angela&Alex Pressure Washer Sandblasting Kit, 5000 PSI Wet Sandblaster
>> >   Attachment with Goggle, 1/4 Inch Quick Disconnect Sandblasting Kit
>> >
>> > Price:
>> >
>> > $33.99
>> >
>> > 25lb of the sand is about the same price
>> >
>> > --FT
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/3/21 9:47 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I think I saw one of those in an ad or something, I wondered how it
>> > > would work.
>> > >
>> > > --FT
>> > >
>> > > On 12/3/21 9:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> > >> Some years ago, I bought an attachment for one of my pressure washers
>> > that
>> > >> hooks to a sandblaster pot and uses the water pressure to suck sand
>> into
>> > >> the high pressure spray stream. Unlike having to rely on an air
>> > compressor
>> > >> for air sandblast and all the dust and frustration that comes with
>> that.
>> > >> The pressure washer is engine driven [6 hp] and puts 4,500 psi at the
>> > work
>> > >> end. With a good supply of dry sharp sand and vacuum from the water at
>> > the
>> > >> "special nozzle" paint removal from equipment is fast, and nearly
>> > painless.
>> > >> I'm particularly pleased at how it gets all the paint and corrosion
>> > around
>> > >> weld joints and complex areas.
>> > >> Dry it off, and it's ready to take paint [soon, because I'm down to
>> > clean
>> > >> bare metal]. Sorry, I will have to go look at it to find the Mfg.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I have safety glasses on, unfortunately most of the shed bits seem to
>> > end
>> > >>> up in my trousers/legs or my arms.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --FT
>> > >>> Sent from iFōn
>> > >>>
>> >  On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >  Wear a face shield!
>> > 
>> > > On 02/12/2021 12:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> > > I am cleaning up the rust on my trailer using a wire wheel on my
>> > angle
>> > >>> grinder. It’s going pretty well, those take off the old paint and
>> > surface
>> > >>> rust fairly quickly.
>> > > I had an old DEWALT wheel in the toolbox and used that to do quite
>> a
>> > >>> bit. I have no idea how old it is but I remember using it before. I
>> > used it
>> > >>> until the wires started escaping the hub so bought a new one at
>> Lowe’s
>> > the
>> > >>> other day. Put it on today and used it for about an hour and it has
>> > >>> completely disintegrated. Total crap. I think it’s a Norton brand.
>> And
>> > >>> those things aren’t cheap, it was maybe $12. I guess I need to take
>> it
>> > back
>> > >>> and get a DEWALT if they have them, or just go to HF and get some
>> > chinee
>> > >>> crap I know will fail.
>> > > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Well I just swapped the failed Norton wire wheel at Lowe’s for a DEWALT which I 
had better service from. I hope that will get me through the trailer cleanup. 
If not I’ll have to get one of those water sand blasters and give that a try. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:38 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That does sound like "the bees knees" for paint removal!

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That does sound like "the bees knees" for paint removal!

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 10:07 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> That one is just like what I bought years ago. Amazing, it's about the same
> price. Mine has replaceable ceramic tips also. I rigged up a pressure pot
> that feeds sand from the bottom instead of sucking it out of a bucket. That
> improved the sand supply at the nozzle and resulted in more stripping
> faster.
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Amazon have them for cheap$27-35 (more expensive have replaceable
> > nozzles which is probably worthwhile), might be worth picking one up to
> > give it a go
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0856QHK8H
> >
> >
> >   Angela&Alex Pressure Washer Sandblasting Kit, 5000 PSI Wet Sandblaster
> >   Attachment with Goggle, 1/4 Inch Quick Disconnect Sandblasting Kit
> >
> > Price:
> >
> > $33.99
> >
> > 25lb of the sand is about the same price
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 12/3/21 9:47 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I saw one of those in an ad or something, I wondered how it
> > > would work.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > > On 12/3/21 9:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Some years ago, I bought an attachment for one of my pressure washers
> > that
> > >> hooks to a sandblaster pot and uses the water pressure to suck sand
> into
> > >> the high pressure spray stream. Unlike having to rely on an air
> > compressor
> > >> for air sandblast and all the dust and frustration that comes with
> that.
> > >> The pressure washer is engine driven [6 hp] and puts 4,500 psi at the
> > work
> > >> end. With a good supply of dry sharp sand and vacuum from the water at
> > the
> > >> "special nozzle" paint removal from equipment is fast, and nearly
> > painless.
> > >> I'm particularly pleased at how it gets all the paint and corrosion
> > around
> > >> weld joints and complex areas.
> > >> Dry it off, and it's ready to take paint [soon, because I'm down to
> > clean
> > >> bare metal]. Sorry, I will have to go look at it to find the Mfg.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I have safety glasses on, unfortunately most of the shed bits seem to
> > end
> > >>> up in my trousers/legs or my arms.
> > >>>
> > >>> --FT
> > >>> Sent from iFōn
> > >>>
> >  On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >  Wear a face shield!
> > 
> > > On 02/12/2021 12:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> > > I am cleaning up the rust on my trailer using a wire wheel on my
> > angle
> > >>> grinder. It’s going pretty well, those take off the old paint and
> > surface
> > >>> rust fairly quickly.
> > > I had an old DEWALT wheel in the toolbox and used that to do quite
> a
> > >>> bit. I have no idea how old it is but I remember using it before. I
> > used it
> > >>> until the wires started escaping the hub so bought a new one at
> Lowe’s
> > the
> > >>> other day. Put it on today and used it for about an hour and it has
> > >>> completely disintegrated. Total crap. I think it’s a Norton brand.
> And
> > >>> those things aren’t cheap, it was maybe $12. I guess I need to take
> it
> > back
> > >>> and get a DEWALT if they have them, or just go to HF and get some
> > chinee
> > >>> crap I know will fail.
> > > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Yes, no doubt.
Renting a trailer might be too.
I assume you wouldn't want to buy it without seeing it so you would need 
to rent locally and haul it both ways, empty if you didn't buy it.


On 03/12/2021 11:12 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

It’s about a 5hr drive so transport would be spendy

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

How far away is it?
What would it cost to have a flat bed tow service bring it home?
I have been able to get vehicles hauled here inside the city for $50 cash.




On 03/12/2021 10:53 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I need to figure this out. My trailer is down for maintenance, gotta finish the 
painting and get some more wood for the deck. I guess I could go there and rent 
a trailer if I needed to haul it back. But I need to get a tar for the tow 
vehicle…

Or if I get it running that would make life simpler

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

It’s about a 5hr drive so transport would be spendy

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How far away is it?
> What would it cost to have a flat bed tow service bring it home?
> I have been able to get vehicles hauled here inside the city for $50 cash.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 03/12/2021 10:53 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I need to figure this out. My trailer is down for maintenance, gotta finish 
>> the painting and get some more wood for the deck. I guess I could go there 
>> and rent a trailer if I needed to haul it back. But I need to get a tar for 
>> the tow vehicle…
>> 
>> Or if I get it running that would make life simpler
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I keep a Bosch on the shelf at both locations. Cheap insurance. Last time 
>>> I needed one, about 4 years ago, I got the call, the car cooled down enough 
>>> for it to start again (temperature is often a failure mode) and got it 
>>> home. 15 minutes later it was good to go. I was ready to swap it out where 
>>> the car died, but since it restarted when it cooled down and it was only 
>>> about 3 miles from home, I took the chance.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:40 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 If I were buying it for a flip, I might get the $4.51 part, or Hella 
 sounds good for $13.59. For that kind of money I really should have one in 
 every glove box.
 
 https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,2003,ml350,3.7l+v6,1419724,ignition,crankshaft+position+sensor,7196
 
> On 2021-12-03 10:27, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> You can get them next day from the Island of Large Wimmen in a lot of
> cases. I checked and I can, but I’ve got a couple distribution centers
> close by, too.
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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How far away is it?
What would it cost to have a flat bed tow service bring it home?
I have been able to get vehicles hauled here inside the city for $50 cash.



On 03/12/2021 10:53 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I need to figure this out. My trailer is down for maintenance, gotta finish the 
painting and get some more wood for the deck. I guess I could go there and rent 
a trailer if I needed to haul it back. But I need to get a tar for the tow 
vehicle…

Or if I get it running that would make life simpler

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I keep a Bosch on the shelf at both locations. Cheap insurance. Last time I 
needed one, about 4 years ago, I got the call, the car cooled down enough for 
it to start again (temperature is often a failure mode) and got it home. 15 
minutes later it was good to go. I was ready to swap it out where the car died, 
but since it restarted when it cooled down and it was only about 3 miles from 
home, I took the chance.

-D


On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:40 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
wrote:

If I were buying it for a flip, I might get the $4.51 part, or Hella sounds 
good for $13.59. For that kind of money I really should have one in every glove 
box.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,2003,ml350,3.7l+v6,1419724,ignition,crankshaft+position+sensor,7196


On 2021-12-03 10:27, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
You can get them next day from the Island of Large Wimmen in a lot of
cases. I checked and I can, but I’ve got a couple distribution centers
close by, too.

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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I need to figure this out. My trailer is down for maintenance, gotta finish the 
painting and get some more wood for the deck. I guess I could go there and rent 
a trailer if I needed to haul it back. But I need to get a tar for the tow 
vehicle…

Or if I get it running that would make life simpler 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I keep a Bosch on the shelf at both locations. Cheap insurance. Last time I 
> needed one, about 4 years ago, I got the call, the car cooled down enough for 
> it to start again (temperature is often a failure mode) and got it home. 15 
> minutes later it was good to go. I was ready to swap it out where the car 
> died, but since it restarted when it cooled down and it was only about 3 
> miles from home, I took the chance.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:40 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If I were buying it for a flip, I might get the $4.51 part, or Hella sounds 
>> good for $13.59. For that kind of money I really should have one in every 
>> glove box.
>> 
>> https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,2003,ml350,3.7l+v6,1419724,ignition,crankshaft+position+sensor,7196
>> 
>>> On 2021-12-03 10:27, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> You can get them next day from the Island of Large Wimmen in a lot of
>>> cases. I checked and I can, but I’ve got a couple distribution centers
>>> close by, too.
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I don't think it would work on an OM617 since there is a breather on the cam 
cover. Unless it's a one-way deal...

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Someone needs to try this vacuum trick on a Mercedes instead of a Subaru.
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 9:26 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>  I've tried it both ways and haven't seen any real difference, it's the
>> heating the seems to do the softening.
>>
>> Curt
>>
>> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:33:24 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>
>>  As I recall, you anneal copper by quenching it in liquid, not cool slowly
>> (opposite of steel).
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
>> Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:05 PM
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>> Cc: Allan Streib 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.
>>
>> Same. I would have expected it to suck air through the drain hole and
>> start dripping oil as soon as the vacuum dropped.
>>
>> Also have heard that you can renew a crush washer by heating it with a
>> blowtorch and letting it cool slowly.
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Wow never thought of that
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp1SpNpXwlE
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Re: [MBZ] A Little Pricey....

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

It can be removed , I believe. I was told by a local body shop guy that if it’s 
four years or less in age it comes off pretty easily. Older than that and it 
tends to get brittle and cracks, making it more labor intensive to remove all 
the pieces.

-D

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess doing this to a car means you're going to drive it into the ground
> since it will not be resellable.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That looks good, did a nice job
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One guy did this, but it took him a 2-3 full days.
>>> Red car was fading to pink, so happy Halloween.
>>> https://i.ibb.co/1MPDn9S/20211016-083152.jpg
>>> https://i.ibb.co/8cbFSvH/20211016-144411.jpg
>>> https://i.ibb.co/xfbCV9L/20211021-181625.jpg
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2021-12-03 07:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 I’ve seen some wrapping on some vids and it doesn’t look too hard, you
 need 2 guys and some experience and soapy water and squeegees to get
 it laid down right. It’s the very curvy sections that are most
 challenging
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

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On 03/12/2021 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Someone needs to try this vacuum trick on a Mercedes instead of a Subaru.


Let us know how it works, Andrew.

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

An M112 would probably work well, as the oil filler is just about the diameter 
of a shop vac hose.

-D



> On Dec 3, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Someone needs to try this vacuum trick on a Mercedes instead of a Subaru.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 9:26 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've tried it both ways and haven't seen any real difference, it's the
>> heating the seems to do the softening.
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>>On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:33:24 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> As I recall, you anneal copper by quenching it in liquid, not cool slowly
>> (opposite of steel).
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
>> Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:05 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Allan Streib 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.
>> 
>> Same. I would have expected it to suck air through the drain hole and
>> start dripping oil as soon as the vacuum dropped.
>> 
>> Also have heard that you can renew a crush washer by heating it with a
>> blowtorch and letting it cool slowly.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Wow never thought of that
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2021, at 8:08 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp1SpNpXwlE
 
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Re: [MBZ] Here is the real unicorn car: 2012 Mercedes S350 Bluetec 4Matic diesel, Carfax, 30 serv. rcrds SHARP - $21, 990 (SE Charlotte)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One of these sold at auction for $25,000.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 9:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder how the diesel does in these big cars.  I recall it was a bit
> slow to get a GL moving.  This is probably not a bad deal, car looks
> nice and is well-optioned.
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/matthews-2012-mercedes-s350-bluetec/7415576752.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Someone needs to try this vacuum trick on a Mercedes instead of a Subaru.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 9:26 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I've tried it both ways and haven't seen any real difference, it's the
> heating the seems to do the softening.
>
> Curt
>
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:33:24 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  As I recall, you anneal copper by quenching it in liquid, not cool slowly
> (opposite of steel).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:05 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.
>
> Same. I would have expected it to suck air through the drain hole and
> start dripping oil as soon as the vacuum dropped.
>
> Also have heard that you can renew a crush washer by heating it with a
> blowtorch and letting it cool slowly.
>
> Allan
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > Wow never thought of that
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] A Little Pricey....

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I guess doing this to a car means you're going to drive it into the ground
since it will not be resellable.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That looks good, did a nice job
>
> —FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > One guy did this, but it took him a 2-3 full days.
> > Red car was fading to pink, so happy Halloween.
> > https://i.ibb.co/1MPDn9S/20211016-083152.jpg
> > https://i.ibb.co/8cbFSvH/20211016-144411.jpg
> > https://i.ibb.co/xfbCV9L/20211021-181625.jpg
> >
> >
> >> On 2021-12-03 07:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I’ve seen some wrapping on some vids and it doesn’t look too hard, you
> >> need 2 guys and some experience and soapy water and squeegees to get
> >> it laid down right. It’s the very curvy sections that are most
> >> challenging
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In my area, Radial Tire is the cat's pajamas. They stock a huge variety of
brands and their prices match those online. Best of all, they play
classical music in the waiting room. I wish I had 10 cars that needed tires.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 10:26 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> What the shop I went to did was put the wheel on their balancer, spin it
> and hold a piece of marking chalk at the tread... The bulge marked itself
> very nicely, and the balancer clearly showed the extreme out of balance.
> Instantly it was very convincing. I left the marks when I took the tire set
> back to Big O... and got stonewalled. Which reminds me.. it's time to jab
> another needle in the Big O voodoo doll... :))
>
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>
> > There’s a small repair shop here on the Island I’ll take it to after I do
> > a front/back swap, they do tires,, owner is nice and seems to know his
> > stuff. Maybe they can throw it on the balancer or something and see if
> they
> > can figure out whussup.
> >
> > —FT
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I avoid all the chain tire shops. Have always used local guys that are
> > working out of a warehouse with a tire machine, balancer, and some floor
> > jacks.
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Take it to a decent tire shop and have them look it over.  If you have
> > >> tread separation and you describe classic symptoms of exactly that, it
> > is a
> > >> very dangerous thing that can and will cause loss of control and a
> > serious
> > >> wreck. Do not mess around with it..
> > >> If the tread comes off the tire it will also beat the living hell out
> of
> > >> the fender before you get to a stop, even if it doesn't wreck you.
> > >> I recently lost a front tire on the Ford King Cab F350, 9,000 lb truck
> > >> empty, due to tread separation, same symptoms you describe. The day
> > before,
> > >> I had it on the freeway running 75 and it felt "not right"... so I
> went
> > to
> > >> the far right lane and slowed down at 50 the not right feel went
> > >> away... I kept the speed down on the return trip [about 60 miles] and
> > the
> > >> next day used the truck again.. At that time, I hit a bump and the
> front
> > >> started an oscillation that was truly frightening. I hit the brakes
> and
> > >> pulled the speed down to 20 before the front stopped driving itself.
> I
> > got
> > >> the message milked it to the closest tire shop and at that point,
> I
> > >> could see a tread bubble about 2 ft long... [Big O tires 12,000
> > miles
> > >> since new, a dual truck, so 6 tires cost $2,200 when new]  Put a set
> of
> > >> Michelin  replacement tires on at the handy shop, and love them. Big O
> > >> refused to warranty their tire set that failed... no refund.. I ate
> it..
> > >> ouch. They are forever on my "never do business with them again."
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 5:18 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I found an article that had the name of the company called Turbo
> Tires
> > or
> > >>> some such that sells these lizetti tires. A link to some business
> > website
> > >>> had their phone number so I rang up the company and talked to a nice
> > guy
> > >>> there. He said they had not imported these tires for 7 years and
> there
> > >>> weren’t many out there. Weird as these tires looked pretty new. I
> need
> > to
> > >>> check the date codes on the tires.
> > >>>
> > >>> They now sell some tires made in Thailand called lexani. Cheep but he
> > said
> > >>> they were good. Whatever. Walmart seems to be their main outlet.
> > That’s
> > >>> probably where these tires came from.
> > >>>
> > >>> I’ll have to work on this tire, probably have to get another one.
> > >>>
> > >>> --FT
> > >>> Sent from iFōn
> > >>>
> >  On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  Yup, sounds like a bad belt. I would swap it to the rear and see if
> > the
> > >>> noise/vibration follows. I’m guessing it will.
> > 
> >  As I recall, the MLs use a weird tire size that’s not terribly
> common.
> > 
> >  -D
> > 
> > > On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The LF tire on the ML500 started acting weird at 25mph+\- , kinda
> > >>> bouncing around, but then it smoothes out at higher speeds. At first
> I
> > >>> thought something in the steering or suspension was loose causing
> > this. I
> > >>> jacked it up the other day and there was no play in the steering, all
> > the
> > >>> suspension bits looked tight and fine.
> > >
> > > today I was driving with the window down and it seems like a
> flapping
> > >>> sound as the tire

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[G Mann via Mercedes]

That one is just like what I bought years ago. Amazing, it's about the same
price. Mine has replaceable ceramic tips also. I rigged up a pressure pot
that feeds sand from the bottom instead of sucking it out of a bucket. That
improved the sand supply at the nozzle and resulted in more stripping
faster.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Amazon have them for cheap$27-35 (more expensive have replaceable
> nozzles which is probably worthwhile), might be worth picking one up to
> give it a go
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0856QHK8H
>
>
>   Angela&Alex Pressure Washer Sandblasting Kit, 5000 PSI Wet Sandblaster
>   Attachment with Goggle, 1/4 Inch Quick Disconnect Sandblasting Kit
>
> Price:
>
> $33.99
>
> 25lb of the sand is about the same price
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 12/3/21 9:47 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> >
> > I think I saw one of those in an ad or something, I wondered how it
> > would work.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 12/3/21 9:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Some years ago, I bought an attachment for one of my pressure washers
> that
> >> hooks to a sandblaster pot and uses the water pressure to suck sand into
> >> the high pressure spray stream. Unlike having to rely on an air
> compressor
> >> for air sandblast and all the dust and frustration that comes with that.
> >> The pressure washer is engine driven [6 hp] and puts 4,500 psi at the
> work
> >> end. With a good supply of dry sharp sand and vacuum from the water at
> the
> >> "special nozzle" paint removal from equipment is fast, and nearly
> painless.
> >> I'm particularly pleased at how it gets all the paint and corrosion
> around
> >> weld joints and complex areas.
> >> Dry it off, and it's ready to take paint [soon, because I'm down to
> clean
> >> bare metal]. Sorry, I will have to go look at it to find the Mfg.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have safety glasses on, unfortunately most of the shed bits seem to
> end
> >>> up in my trousers/legs or my arms.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
>  On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  Wear a face shield!
> 
> > On 02/12/2021 12:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> > I am cleaning up the rust on my trailer using a wire wheel on my
> angle
> >>> grinder. It’s going pretty well, those take off the old paint and
> surface
> >>> rust fairly quickly.
> > I had an old DEWALT wheel in the toolbox and used that to do quite a
> >>> bit. I have no idea how old it is but I remember using it before. I
> used it
> >>> until the wires started escaping the hub so bought a new one at Lowe’s
> the
> >>> other day. Put it on today and used it for about an hour and it has
> >>> completely disintegrated. Total crap. I think it’s a Norton brand. And
> >>> those things aren’t cheap, it was maybe $12. I guess I need to take it
> back
> >>> and get a DEWALT if they have them, or just go to HF and get some
> chinee
> >>> crap I know will fail.
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I keep a Bosch on the shelf at both locations. Cheap insurance. Last time I 
needed one, about 4 years ago, I got the call, the car cooled down enough for 
it to start again (temperature is often a failure mode) and got it home. 15 
minutes later it was good to go. I was ready to swap it out where the car died, 
but since it restarted when it cooled down and it was only about 3 miles from 
home, I took the chance.

-D

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:40 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If I were buying it for a flip, I might get the $4.51 part, or Hella sounds 
> good for $13.59. For that kind of money I really should have one in every 
> glove box.
> 
> https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,2003,ml350,3.7l+v6,1419724,ignition,crankshaft+position+sensor,7196
> 
> On 2021-12-03 10:27, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> You can get them next day from the Island of Large Wimmen in a lot of
>> cases. I checked and I can, but I’ve got a couple distribution centers
>> close by, too.
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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

If I were buying it for a flip, I might get the $4.51 part, or Hella 
sounds good for $13.59. For that kind of money I really should have one 
in every glove box.


https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz,2003,ml350,3.7l+v6,1419724,ignition,crankshaft+position+sensor,7196

On 2021-12-03 10:27, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

You can get them next day from the Island of Large Wimmen in a lot of
cases. I checked and I can, but I’ve got a couple distribution centers
close by, too.


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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

You can get them next day from the Island of Large Wimmen in a lot of cases. I 
checked and I can, but I’ve got a couple distribution centers close by, too.

-D

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got a CPS, or a M112/113 you can borrow one from?
> 
> On 2021-12-03 10:16, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> 25yr
>> Price on this was $2800 the other day, he dropped it $300.  If my
>> trailer was not undergoing maintenance I would drive up there this
>> weekend and get that car, offer $2k, change out the CPS, see if that
>> sorts it out.  hell I might even go up there anyway and get it and
>> leave it at my daughter's place.
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tires

[G Mann via Mercedes]

What the shop I went to did was put the wheel on their balancer, spin it
and hold a piece of marking chalk at the tread... The bulge marked itself
very nicely, and the balancer clearly showed the extreme out of balance.
Instantly it was very convincing. I left the marks when I took the tire set
back to Big O... and got stonewalled. Which reminds me.. it's time to jab
another needle in the Big O voodoo doll... :))

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:51 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There’s a small repair shop here on the Island I’ll take it to after I do
> a front/back swap, they do tires,, owner is nice and seems to know his
> stuff. Maybe they can throw it on the balancer or something and see if they
> can figure out whussup.
>
> —FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I avoid all the chain tire shops. Have always used local guys that are
> working out of a warehouse with a tire machine, balancer, and some floor
> jacks.
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Take it to a decent tire shop and have them look it over.  If you have
> >> tread separation and you describe classic symptoms of exactly that, it
> is a
> >> very dangerous thing that can and will cause loss of control and a
> serious
> >> wreck. Do not mess around with it..
> >> If the tread comes off the tire it will also beat the living hell out of
> >> the fender before you get to a stop, even if it doesn't wreck you.
> >> I recently lost a front tire on the Ford King Cab F350, 9,000 lb truck
> >> empty, due to tread separation, same symptoms you describe. The day
> before,
> >> I had it on the freeway running 75 and it felt "not right"... so I went
> to
> >> the far right lane and slowed down at 50 the not right feel went
> >> away... I kept the speed down on the return trip [about 60 miles] and
> the
> >> next day used the truck again.. At that time, I hit a bump and the front
> >> started an oscillation that was truly frightening. I hit the brakes and
> >> pulled the speed down to 20 before the front stopped driving itself.  I
> got
> >> the message milked it to the closest tire shop and at that point, I
> >> could see a tread bubble about 2 ft long... [Big O tires 12,000
> miles
> >> since new, a dual truck, so 6 tires cost $2,200 when new]  Put a set of
> >> Michelin  replacement tires on at the handy shop, and love them. Big O
> >> refused to warranty their tire set that failed... no refund.. I ate it..
> >> ouch. They are forever on my "never do business with them again."
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 5:18 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I found an article that had the name of the company called Turbo Tires
> or
> >>> some such that sells these lizetti tires. A link to some business
> website
> >>> had their phone number so I rang up the company and talked to a nice
> guy
> >>> there. He said they had not imported these tires for 7 years and there
> >>> weren’t many out there. Weird as these tires looked pretty new. I need
> to
> >>> check the date codes on the tires.
> >>>
> >>> They now sell some tires made in Thailand called lexani. Cheep but he
> said
> >>> they were good. Whatever. Walmart seems to be their main outlet.
> That’s
> >>> probably where these tires came from.
> >>>
> >>> I’ll have to work on this tire, probably have to get another one.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
>  On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Yup, sounds like a bad belt. I would swap it to the rear and see if
> the
> >>> noise/vibration follows. I’m guessing it will.
> 
>  As I recall, the MLs use a weird tire size that’s not terribly common.
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The LF tire on the ML500 started acting weird at 25mph+\- , kinda
> >>> bouncing around, but then it smoothes out at higher speeds. At first I
> >>> thought something in the steering or suspension was loose causing
> this. I
> >>> jacked it up the other day and there was no play in the steering, all
> the
> >>> suspension bits looked tight and fine.
> >
> > today I was driving with the window down and it seems like a flapping
> >>> sound as the tire rotates at that speed. Got me thinking maybe a belt
> is
> >>> separating?  I’ve never had that happen so not sure of the symptoms.
> F  Rt
> >>> I’m what I can tell it looks ok. I was thinking to swap it front to
> back
> >>> and see if the behavior follows the tire. Or take it off and take it
> to a
> >>> tire shop to see if they can figure it out, maybe it shed a weight or
> >>> something.
> >
> > The tires are “Lizetti” and were on the vehicle when I “acquired” it
> >>> and looked to be nearly new.

Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Got a CPS, or a M112/113 you can borrow one from?

On 2021-12-03 10:16, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

25yr

Price on this was $2800 the other day, he dropped it $300.  If my
trailer was not undergoing maintenance I would drive up there this
weekend and get that car, offer $2k, change out the CPS, see if that
sorts it out.  hell I might even go up there anyway and get it and
leave it at my daughter's place.


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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Amazon have them for cheap$27-35 (more expensive have replaceable 
nozzles which is probably worthwhile), might be worth picking one up to 
give it a go


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0856QHK8H


 Angela&Alex Pressure Washer Sandblasting Kit, 5000 PSI Wet Sandblaster
 Attachment with Goggle, 1/4 Inch Quick Disconnect Sandblasting Kit

Price:  

$33.99

25lb of the sand is about the same price

--FT


On 12/3/21 9:47 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:


I think I saw one of those in an ad or something, I wondered how it 
would work.


--FT

On 12/3/21 9:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Some years ago, I bought an attachment for one of my pressure washers that
hooks to a sandblaster pot and uses the water pressure to suck sand into
the high pressure spray stream. Unlike having to rely on an air compressor
for air sandblast and all the dust and frustration that comes with that.
The pressure washer is engine driven [6 hp] and puts 4,500 psi at the work
end. With a good supply of dry sharp sand and vacuum from the water at the
"special nozzle" paint removal from equipment is fast, and nearly painless.
I'm particularly pleased at how it gets all the paint and corrosion around
weld joints and complex areas.
Dry it off, and it's ready to take paint [soon, because I'm down to clean
bare metal]. Sorry, I will have to go look at it to find the Mfg.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have safety glasses on, unfortunately most of the shed bits seem to end
up in my trousers/legs or my arms.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Wear a face shield!


On 02/12/2021 12:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I am cleaning up the rust on my trailer using a wire wheel on my angle

grinder. It’s going pretty well, those take off the old paint and surface
rust fairly quickly.

I had an old DEWALT wheel in the toolbox and used that to do quite a

bit. I have no idea how old it is but I remember using it before. I used it
until the wires started escaping the hub so bought a new one at Lowe’s the
other day. Put it on today and used it for about an hour and it has
completely disintegrated. Total crap. I think it’s a Norton brand. And
those things aren’t cheap, it was maybe $12. I guess I need to take it back
and get a DEWALT if they have them, or just go to HF and get some chinee
crap I know will fail.

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

25yr

Price on this was $2800 the other day, he dropped it $300.  If my 
trailer was not undergoing maintenance I would drive up there this 
weekend and get that car, offer $2k, change out the CPS, see if that 
sorts it out.  hell I might even go up there anyway and get it and leave 
it at my daughter's place.


--FT

On 12/3/21 10:09 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

I forget, did they put a 20 year warranty on the SBC?
Sounded good at the time, but with 2022 just around the corner...

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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

I forget, did they put a 20 year warranty on the SBC?
Sounded good at the time, but with 2022 just around the corner...

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[MBZ] transmission has issues needs servicing or repaired. 1998/Mercedes Benz E320 - $2, 325 (ZEBULON)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$1200 at most depending on what the trans issue is, but car looks fairly 
nice


https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/zebulon-1998-mercedes-benz-e320/7415828023.html

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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah that is what I am thinking too, or some sensor got knocked off in 
whatever they did to the car.  A scan would likely point out the issue.  
Car looks nice for the miles.


--FT

On 12/3/21 9:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

99% chance it’s the CPS. $30 for the part an 10-15 minutes to swap it out. I 
wonder if it’s throwing a CEL? They will do it if you crank it enough.

-D


On Dec 3, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I am so tempted to go get this thing

CAR STARTS, BUT THEN DIES, WILL NOT STAY RUNNING.. 2003 Mercedes E320 178k 
miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done 60 days ago, that 
included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc we had just had it 
detailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7415833979.html

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I think I saw one of those in an ad or something, I wondered how it 
would work.


--FT

On 12/3/21 9:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Some years ago, I bought an attachment for one of my pressure washers that
hooks to a sandblaster pot and uses the water pressure to suck sand into
the high pressure spray stream. Unlike having to rely on an air compressor
for air sandblast and all the dust and frustration that comes with that.
The pressure washer is engine driven [6 hp] and puts 4,500 psi at the work
end. With a good supply of dry sharp sand and vacuum from the water at the
"special nozzle" paint removal from equipment is fast, and nearly painless.
I'm particularly pleased at how it gets all the paint and corrosion around
weld joints and complex areas.
Dry it off, and it's ready to take paint [soon, because I'm down to clean
bare metal]. Sorry, I will have to go look at it to find the Mfg.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have safety glasses on, unfortunately most of the shed bits seem to end
up in my trousers/legs or my arms.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Wear a face shield!


On 02/12/2021 12:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I am cleaning up the rust on my trailer using a wire wheel on my angle

grinder. It’s going pretty well, those take off the old paint and surface
rust fairly quickly.

I had an old DEWALT wheel in the toolbox and used that to do quite a

bit. I have no idea how old it is but I remember using it before. I used it
until the wires started escaping the hub so bought a new one at Lowe’s the
other day. Put it on today and used it for about an hour and it has
completely disintegrated. Total crap. I think it’s a Norton brand. And
those things aren’t cheap, it was maybe $12. I guess I need to take it back
and get a DEWALT if they have them, or just go to HF and get some chinee
crap I know will fail.

--FT


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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

99% chance it’s the CPS. $30 for the part an 10-15 minutes to swap it out. I 
wonder if it’s throwing a CEL? They will do it if you crank it enough.

-D

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am so tempted to go get this thing
> 
> CAR STARTS, BUT THEN DIES, WILL NOT STAY RUNNING.. 2003 Mercedes E320 178k 
> miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done 60 days ago, that 
> included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc we had just had 
> it detailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running
> 
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7415833979.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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[MBZ] Here is the real unicorn car: 2012 Mercedes S350 Bluetec 4Matic diesel, Carfax, 30 serv. rcrds SHARP - $21, 990 (SE Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder how the diesel does in these big cars.  I recall it was a bit 
slow to get a GL moving.  This is probably not a bad deal, car looks 
nice and is well-optioned.


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/matthews-2012-mercedes-s350-bluetec/7415576752.html


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[MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I am so tempted to go get this thing

CAR STARTS, BUT THEN DIES, WILL NOT STAY RUNNING.. 2003 Mercedes E320 
178k miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done 60 days 
ago, that included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc 
we had just had it detailed and they washed the engine and now it starts 
and wont stay running


https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7415833979.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Working the system

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 A friend worked for a fish farm, they used Ryobi for everything because they 
were cheap and were only going to get ruined when they got dropped into the 
fish tank.
Most of the big brands are owned by 2 or 3 companies. The company that owns 
Milwaukee also owns Rigid and Ryobi for instance. Stanley Black and Decker also 
owns Dewalt and Porter Cable and Craftsman. I don't think that there is really 
all that much difference between the brands.

One of the reasons I bought Makita is that they are self owned, not a zombie 
brand...
-Curt

On Friday, December 3, 2021, 01:27:16 AM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I watch this guy on YouTube. Believe it or not, Rigid impacts perform quite 
well.

https://youtu.be/M2qcslYO_0Q

https://youtu.be/HWeguH-2UJA


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: December 2, 2021 11:45 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ritchey30...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Working the system

That's for sure.  The (just finished) carport project involved 600 
self-drilling screws.  Possible with a drill but only with considerable 
pressure.  Stepson's Makita drill-driver was the cat's meow for these.

-Original Message-
From: Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 1:47 PM


 The small impact is wy better for driving screws than a drill, especially 
for Phillips head.I use mine a lot for light mechanicing too. Especially 
switching Dad's lawn tractor from mower to snowblower. It's got a spring assist 
on the lift and dialing the tension on the spring takes forever with a wrench, 
it's easy peasy with that little impact.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've tried it both ways and haven't seen any real difference, it's the heating 
the seems to do the softening. 

Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:33:24 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 As I recall, you anneal copper by quenching it in liquid, not cool slowly 
(opposite of steel).

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

Same. I would have expected it to suck air through the drain hole and start 
dripping oil as soon as the vacuum dropped.

Also have heard that you can renew a crush washer by heating it with a 
blowtorch and letting it cool slowly.

Allan

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Wow never thought of that 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 8:08 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp1SpNpXwlE
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tools

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Some years ago, I bought an attachment for one of my pressure washers that
hooks to a sandblaster pot and uses the water pressure to suck sand into
the high pressure spray stream. Unlike having to rely on an air compressor
for air sandblast and all the dust and frustration that comes with that.
The pressure washer is engine driven [6 hp] and puts 4,500 psi at the work
end. With a good supply of dry sharp sand and vacuum from the water at the
"special nozzle" paint removal from equipment is fast, and nearly painless.
I'm particularly pleased at how it gets all the paint and corrosion around
weld joints and complex areas.
Dry it off, and it's ready to take paint [soon, because I'm down to clean
bare metal]. Sorry, I will have to go look at it to find the Mfg.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I have safety glasses on, unfortunately most of the shed bits seem to end
> up in my trousers/legs or my arms.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wear a face shield!
> >
> >> On 02/12/2021 12:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I am cleaning up the rust on my trailer using a wire wheel on my angle
> grinder. It’s going pretty well, those take off the old paint and surface
> rust fairly quickly.
> >>
> >> I had an old DEWALT wheel in the toolbox and used that to do quite a
> bit. I have no idea how old it is but I remember using it before. I used it
> until the wires started escaping the hub so bought a new one at Lowe’s the
> other day. Put it on today and used it for about an hour and it has
> completely disintegrated. Total crap. I think it’s a Norton brand. And
> those things aren’t cheap, it was maybe $12. I guess I need to take it back
> and get a DEWALT if they have them, or just go to HF and get some chinee
> crap I know will fail.
> >>
> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] It's a TD, looks nice 1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D, $14, 500

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Non original wheels take 15 inch tires, which expands tire selection a
great deal. The ask price demands a purist, however.
I have an 82, with a new set of 14" Michlens, that is the same color and
interior, and I would be happy to sell it for 1/2 his price.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Hate the non original wheels.
> Console wood is toasted.
> Multiple fissures in the dash
> Top ten boring color combinations
>
> Might be worth $7k on a good day.
>
> Overpriced
>
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> > 89kmi
> >
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 For the copper washer what you're actually doing is annealing it. Copper work 
hardens and softens with heat. This is a thing I run into on kerosene lanterns, 
there is a flange where the generator meets the lantern body that hardens and, 
for some reason, on kerosene lanterns tends to leak. Heat it up to a dull red, 
quench, repeat, the brass is now dead soft and will seal fine.
-Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:07:43 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Same. I would have expected it to suck air through the drain hole and start 
dripping oil as soon as the vacuum dropped.

Also have heard that you can renew a crush washer by heating it with a 
blowtorch and letting it cool slowly.

Allan

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> Wow never thought of that 
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of tires

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

There’s a small repair shop here on the Island I’ll take it to after I do a 
front/back swap, they do tires,, owner is nice and seems to know his stuff. 
Maybe they can throw it on the balancer or something and see if they can figure 
out whussup. 

—FT

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> 
> I avoid all the chain tire shops. Have always used local guys that are 
> working out of a warehouse with a tire machine, balancer, and some floor 
> jacks.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> Take it to a decent tire shop and have them look it over.  If you have
>> tread separation and you describe classic symptoms of exactly that, it is a
>> very dangerous thing that can and will cause loss of control and a serious
>> wreck. Do not mess around with it..
>> If the tread comes off the tire it will also beat the living hell out of
>> the fender before you get to a stop, even if it doesn't wreck you.
>> I recently lost a front tire on the Ford King Cab F350, 9,000 lb truck
>> empty, due to tread separation, same symptoms you describe. The day before,
>> I had it on the freeway running 75 and it felt "not right"... so I went to
>> the far right lane and slowed down at 50 the not right feel went
>> away... I kept the speed down on the return trip [about 60 miles] and the
>> next day used the truck again.. At that time, I hit a bump and the front
>> started an oscillation that was truly frightening. I hit the brakes and
>> pulled the speed down to 20 before the front stopped driving itself.  I got
>> the message milked it to the closest tire shop and at that point, I
>> could see a tread bubble about 2 ft long... [Big O tires 12,000 miles
>> since new, a dual truck, so 6 tires cost $2,200 when new]  Put a set of
>> Michelin  replacement tires on at the handy shop, and love them. Big O
>> refused to warranty their tire set that failed... no refund.. I ate it..
>> ouch. They are forever on my "never do business with them again."
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 5:18 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I found an article that had the name of the company called Turbo Tires or
>>> some such that sells these lizetti tires. A link to some business website
>>> had their phone number so I rang up the company and talked to a nice guy
>>> there. He said they had not imported these tires for 7 years and there
>>> weren’t many out there. Weird as these tires looked pretty new. I need to
>>> check the date codes on the tires.
>>> 
>>> They now sell some tires made in Thailand called lexani. Cheep but he said
>>> they were good. Whatever. Walmart seems to be their main outlet.  That’s
>>> probably where these tires came from.
>>> 
>>> I’ll have to work on this tire, probably have to get another one.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Yup, sounds like a bad belt. I would swap it to the rear and see if the
>>> noise/vibration follows. I’m guessing it will.
 
 As I recall, the MLs use a weird tire size that’s not terribly common.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The LF tire on the ML500 started acting weird at 25mph+\- , kinda
>>> bouncing around, but then it smoothes out at higher speeds. At first I
>>> thought something in the steering or suspension was loose causing this. I
>>> jacked it up the other day and there was no play in the steering, all the
>>> suspension bits looked tight and fine.
> 
> today I was driving with the window down and it seems like a flapping
>>> sound as the tire rotates at that speed. Got me thinking maybe a belt is
>>> separating?  I’ve never had that happen so not sure of the symptoms. F  Rt
>>> I’m what I can tell it looks ok. I was thinking to swap it front to back
>>> and see if the behavior follows the tire. Or take it off and take it to a
>>> tire shop to see if they can figure it out, maybe it shed a weight or
>>> something.
> 
> The tires are “Lizetti” and were on the vehicle when I “acquired” it
>>> and looked to be nearly new. Not a lot of miles in them. It’s weird I have
>>> done a search for the tire in the size 255/65R17 and none appear to be
>>> available anywhere though a few other sizes are sold by different vendors.
>>> They seem to have ok reviews for a cheaper tire but I had never heard of
>>> them.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Little Pricey....

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That looks good, did a nice job

—FT

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> On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> One guy did this, but it took him a 2-3 full days.
> Red car was fading to pink, so happy Halloween.
> https://i.ibb.co/1MPDn9S/20211016-083152.jpg
> https://i.ibb.co/8cbFSvH/20211016-144411.jpg
> https://i.ibb.co/xfbCV9L/20211021-181625.jpg
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>> On 2021-12-03 07:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’ve seen some wrapping on some vids and it doesn’t look too hard, you
>> need 2 guys and some experience and soapy water and squeegees to get
>> it laid down right. It’s the very curvy sections that are most
>> challenging
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Re: [MBZ] A Little Pricey....

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

One guy did this, but it took him a 2-3 full days.
Red car was fading to pink, so happy Halloween.
https://i.ibb.co/1MPDn9S/20211016-083152.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/8cbFSvH/20211016-144411.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/xfbCV9L/20211021-181625.jpg


On 2021-12-03 07:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve seen some wrapping on some vids and it doesn’t look too hard, you
need 2 guys and some experience and soapy water and squeegees to get
it laid down right. It’s the very curvy sections that are most
challenging




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Re: [MBZ] A Little Pricey....

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ve seen some wrapping on some vids and it doesn’t look too hard, you need 2 
guys and some experience and soapy water and squeegees to get it laid down 
right. It’s the very curvy sections that are most challenging 

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> On Dec 2, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I guess you can buy the vinyl for maybe $500, the extra cost is in the 
> experience and tools to apply it without any gaps, wrinkles, or bubbles.
> 
> I think paint would be easier for a DIY than vinyl. I can barely put a 
> sticker on something without having a bubble.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s pretty spendy. 
>> 
>> I was watching this show West Coast Customs on Netflix and they painted 
>> a car with chrome paint. It was wild, some sort of chemical reaction 
>> with a silver solution they then rinse off and bang it’s chrome.  Then 
>> they spray a clear coat over it that can be very lightly tinted gold or 
>> rose or other colors. It actually looked really cool. No idea what that 
>> would cost, spendy I’m sure. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Professionally done, about $3k
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 Agreed. A nice example. How much does a wrap cost?
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:41 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> True, but a good solid car with a couple 100k left on it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Almost as boring as realtor spec
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
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>>> 
>>> …but a nice Naples car:
>>> 
>>> https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/cto/d/naples-1999-mercedes-benz-320/7415407064.html
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