[MBZ] Did Don forget how to spell MERCEDES?

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

And how did he get his Whitman to cruise 30 kts at FL 640?
Happy Airventure!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/110810/EE0CAB25-EBD7-460C-934E-95A268B942C1_jpe-2466873.JPG



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[MBZ] 2011 C300 On Air 19s - $14,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Another one for the WHY??? category

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-richmond-2011-mercedes-c300-on-air/7513792778.html

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[MBZ] 1994 S350 Turbodiesel - $4,300

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Sounds like it might be mechanically good but with rust and inop AC it's a 
beater.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/mount-prospect-1994-mercedes-s350/7513776929.html
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[MBZ] 1982 300D - 220k miles - $8,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Pricy but looks decent.

"It will literally take you anywhere and back"

Elon should buy it, I hear he wants to go to Mars.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/oak-lawn-1982-mercedes-benz-300-turbo/7513706091.html

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Re: [MBZ] W116 Half-Shafts

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It appears so. Search for Flexx Boot installation gun.



On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 17:46, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> Are the boots and tool still available?
>
> Randy
>
> On 26/07/2022 4:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 16:38, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Have any of you folks tried the stretchy boots that special tool to
>>> install them?
>> Yes I did this on my W123 years ago. Worked well.
>>
>> I bought a pneumatic boot stretching tool which I still have, never used it 
>> since.
>>
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Big As A Whale

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

It was a great car as I recall. I think he finally retired it after putting 
over 220k on the clock over 6-7 years. I think it had a top end job on the 
engine at some point late in it’s ownership, but otherwise I don’t remember it 
needing much else. If I recall, the replacement was a 1975 Chrysler Cordoba.

As I mentioned, my Dad bought it as a big FU to GM. In early 1969 upper 
management (above him, he was a executive VP) started a “reorganization”, and a 
bunch of big toughs were brought in from Detroit to effect change. Dad wasn’t 
having any of this strong arming, so he walked out.

His office was a couple of miles away from the house. I vividly recall being 
outside playing basketball after school and my Dad walking down the street into 
the driveway with his briefcase in hand, in his suit and with a hat on a la Don 
Draper (as in “Mad Men” - this was 1969, remember.)

“Hey, Dad, what are you doing?”

“Walked home from the office.”

“Where’s your car? Did it break down?”

“Nope. Not my car any more.”

I was puzzled. Got the story at the dinner table that night. The next day I got 
to ride with him in Mom’s Opel Kadette to the Dodge dealer to buy the Monaco. 
He never owned a GM vehicle after that.

-D

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I owned one of those, back in the day. It had the fuel efficient 440 cubic
> inch engine with a massive 4 barrel carb... that resulted in a steady 8
> miles per gallon, at a comfortable cruise speed of 90 mph on the
> interstates, with the air conditioner set on "stun" instead of "arctic"
> which would actually blow snow out of the vents in high humidity.
> The trunk was the size of a 1/2 ton pickup.. and ... it had plenty of
> headroom.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:15 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That was it. I wasn’t thinking about that at the time. Either way, they
>> were related.
>> 
>> Dad bought the Monaco off the sales floor at the local Dodge dealer the
>> day after he quit General Motors. It was his “F-U” to GM, as he was not a
>> happy camper when he left.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, at 4:06 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 You sure the Monaco isn't a cheap Newport?
 I thought Chrysler was above Dodge like Buick was above Chevrolet.
>>> 
>>> As I recall, Chrysler was top end/luxury, Dodge was mid-tier but also
>> included trucks and muscle cars, Plymouth was economy.
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Re: [MBZ] W116 Half-Shafts

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On 2022-07-26 17:46, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Are the boots and tool still available?


I saw Dorman brand stretchy boots listed at Rock Auto.
It would be nice if one of the Dorman dealers like Advance Auto Parts 
would rent the tool.


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Re: [MBZ] W116 Half-Shafts

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Are the boots and tool still available?

Randy

On 26/07/2022 4:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 16:38, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:


Have any of you folks tried the stretchy boots that special tool to
install them?

Yes I did this on my W123 years ago. Worked well.

I bought a pneumatic boot stretching tool which I still have, never used it 
since.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] W116 Half-Shafts

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 16:38, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

> Have any of you folks tried the stretchy boots that special tool to 
> install them?

Yes I did this on my W123 years ago. Worked well.

I bought a pneumatic boot stretching tool which I still have, never used it 
since.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] W116 Half-Shafts

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Have any of you folks tried the stretchy boots that special tool to 
install them?


Randy

On 26/07/2022 8:55 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

On 2022-07-25 21:10, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

All of the 107 114 115 116 and 123 were always the same as far as I
remember and possibly the 126. The 2 styles were either the kind with
the internal clip in the diff you had to remove (older cars) or the
later bolt on 126 style.


W123 and W116 shafts are the same length?
I have a diff and halfshafts out of a 240D automatic.
They probably don't have much wear, but the boots are about 40 years 
old, so they could conceivably split at any moment.






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Re: [MBZ] OT: Big As A Whale

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Heh -- my thought exactly. You beat me to it.


On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 3:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Just like the Road Queen Family Truckster!
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I have the following story correct and not backwards:
>> 
>> Some folks we knew from out at the lake drove big station wagons. A series 
>> of Pontiacs as I recall but one year, they showed up in a Dodge. The reason 
>> was that they could not get all of the options they wanted unless they opted 
>> for the car with the fake woodgrain on the sides (ala Country Squire by 
>> Ford) and he did not want the woodgrain. He tried to convince the dealer 
>> that he should be able to get the base car with the options but finally gave 
>> up and went where he could get what he wanted.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26/07/2022 2:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I owned one of those, back in the day. It had the fuel efficient 440 cubic
>>> inch engine with a massive 4 barrel carb... that resulted in a steady 8
>>> miles per gallon, at a comfortable cruise speed of 90 mph on the
>>> interstates, with the air conditioner set on "stun" instead of "arctic"
>>> which would actually blow snow out of the vents in high humidity.
>>> The trunk was the size of a 1/2 ton pickup.. and ... it had plenty of
>>> headroom.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:15 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 That was it. I wasn’t thinking about that at the time. Either way, they
 were related.
 
 Dad bought the Monaco off the sales floor at the local Dodge dealer the
 day after he quit General Motors. It was his “F-U” to GM, as he was not a
 happy camper when he left.
 
 -D
 
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, at 4:06 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> You sure the Monaco isn't a cheap Newport?
>> I thought Chrysler was above Dodge like Buick was above Chevrolet.
> As I recall, Chrysler was top end/luxury, Dodge was mid-tier but also
 included trucks and muscle cars, Plymouth was economy.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Big As A Whale

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"Now, I owe it to myself to tell you that if you're taking the whole tribe 
cross-country, the Wagon Queen Family Truckster... You think you hate it now, 
wait 'til you drive it."


On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> I think I have the following story correct and not backwards:
>
> Some folks we knew from out at the lake drove big station wagons. A 
> series of Pontiacs as I recall but one year, they showed up in a Dodge. 
> The reason was that they could not get all of the options they wanted 
> unless they opted for the car with the fake woodgrain on the sides (ala 
> Country Squire by Ford) and he did not want the woodgrain. He tried to 
> convince the dealer that he should be able to get the base car with the 
> options but finally gave up and went where he could get what he wanted.
>
> Randy
>

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Re: [MBZ] W116 Half-Shafts

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 00:12:52 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> If you can’t get aftermarket ones, there are some guys in Colorado who
> are considered the best rebuilders in the business. If they have one on
> the shelf they’ll do a swap with a core charge. They’re not cheap, but
> very high quality from what I’ve heard from people I know who have used
> them.
> 
> https://www.cvjreman.com/mercedes/

I just talked with John at CVJ Reman (1-800-292-2953(AXLE)).

He said they rebuild only genuine Mercedes axles. He said they used to
keep a stock of them on their shelves, but do so no longer, so I will
have to send him mine.

He said the repair would be $269.00 for each axle and take two weeks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Big As A Whale

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Just like the Road Queen Family Truckster!

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I have the following story correct and not backwards:
> 
> Some folks we knew from out at the lake drove big station wagons. A series of 
> Pontiacs as I recall but one year, they showed up in a Dodge. The reason was 
> that they could not get all of the options they wanted unless they opted for 
> the car with the fake woodgrain on the sides (ala Country Squire by Ford) and 
> he did not want the woodgrain. He tried to convince the dealer that he should 
> be able to get the base car with the options but finally gave up and went 
> where he could get what he wanted.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 26/07/2022 2:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> I owned one of those, back in the day. It had the fuel efficient 440 cubic
>> inch engine with a massive 4 barrel carb... that resulted in a steady 8
>> miles per gallon, at a comfortable cruise speed of 90 mph on the
>> interstates, with the air conditioner set on "stun" instead of "arctic"
>> which would actually blow snow out of the vents in high humidity.
>> The trunk was the size of a 1/2 ton pickup.. and ... it had plenty of
>> headroom.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:15 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That was it. I wasn’t thinking about that at the time. Either way, they
>>> were related.
>>> 
>>> Dad bought the Monaco off the sales floor at the local Dodge dealer the
>>> day after he quit General Motors. It was his “F-U” to GM, as he was not a
>>> happy camper when he left.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jul 25, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, at 4:06 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
 
> You sure the Monaco isn't a cheap Newport?
> I thought Chrysler was above Dodge like Buick was above Chevrolet.
 As I recall, Chrysler was top end/luxury, Dodge was mid-tier but also
>>> included trucks and muscle cars, Plymouth was economy.
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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

This is true, however, I had determined the compressor was the issue, we just 
didn’t have time to swap it before he left FL for AZ last February. Since it 
was February, AC wasn’t an issue at the time. Now that he’s in AZ and it’s 
summertime, even in Flagstaff at 7,000’, AC is still necessary at times. That 
and he often ventures into the “valley” (lower elevations) for various reasons, 
so it’s REALLY necessary down there as ambients can easily be above 100F.

-D

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The troubleshooting that guy in the video did was sound, and informative. 
> Like he said in the video, another shop wanted to throw a PCM at it. I want 
> to say I read on Benz Whirled that the W210s Nippon Denso it is pretty common 
> for the valve plate to crack. I would suppose the SDS can tell whether that 
> solenoid is getting a signal or not. I know just the control panel in the 
> dash of a 210 will render a wealth of information just by pushing a few 
> buttons to retrieve the codes.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: July 26, 2022 2:14 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC
> 
> So it appears. I’m guessing the plate either got stuck in the flat/neutral 
> position or the solenoid won’t move it out of that position.
> 
> This is what affected the youngest son’s compressor in his facelift W210. 
> Spun without issue, charge was good, simply didn’t compress.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or 
>> solenoid going bad.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blood batteries

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Grant, do you have solar power on your homestead?

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 3:43 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Greta, I'm told, is tone deaf, and can not be trained to understand hand
> signals.
> It was once suggested that she be installed on an iceberg during polar bear
> breeding season so that she could come to understand the need for "climate
> change"...
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 3:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Biodiesel is more environmentally friendly. It is carbon neutral. The
> > biggest issue with diesel or biodiesel is NOx emissions.
> >
> > There is no such thing as a free lunch.
> >
> > The closest thing would be thorium fueled nuclear reactors and Fischer
> > Tropsch process for coal. The United States could be energy independent
> for
> > the next millennium.
> >
> > Someone please tell Greta.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: July 25, 2022 5:25 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: dsereta...@yahoo.com
> > Subject: [MBZ] Blood batteries
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

The troubleshooting that guy in the video did was sound, and informative. Like 
he said in the video, another shop wanted to throw a PCM at it. I want to say I 
read on Benz Whirled that the W210s Nippon Denso it is pretty common for the 
valve plate to crack. I would suppose the SDS can tell whether that solenoid is 
getting a signal or not. I know just the control panel in the dash of a 210 
will render a wealth of information just by pushing a few buttons to retrieve 
the codes.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: July 26, 2022 2:14 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

So it appears. I’m guessing the plate either got stuck in the flat/neutral 
position or the solenoid won’t move it out of that position.

This is what affected the youngest son’s compressor in his facelift W210. Spun 
without issue, charge was good, simply didn’t compress.

-D

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or 
> solenoid going bad.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Blood batteries

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Greta, I'm told, is tone deaf, and can not be trained to understand hand
signals.
It was once suggested that she be installed on an iceberg during polar bear
breeding season so that she could come to understand the need for "climate
change"...

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 3:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Biodiesel is more environmentally friendly. It is carbon neutral. The
> biggest issue with diesel or biodiesel is NOx emissions.
>
> There is no such thing as a free lunch.
>
> The closest thing would be thorium fueled nuclear reactors and Fischer
> Tropsch process for coal. The United States could be energy independent for
> the next millennium.
>
> Someone please tell Greta.
>
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Big As A Whale

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I think I have the following story correct and not backwards:

Some folks we knew from out at the lake drove big station wagons. A 
series of Pontiacs as I recall but one year, they showed up in a Dodge. 
The reason was that they could not get all of the options they wanted 
unless they opted for the car with the fake woodgrain on the sides (ala 
Country Squire by Ford) and he did not want the woodgrain. He tried to 
convince the dealer that he should be able to get the base car with the 
options but finally gave up and went where he could get what he wanted.


Randy


On 26/07/2022 2:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I owned one of those, back in the day. It had the fuel efficient 440 cubic
inch engine with a massive 4 barrel carb... that resulted in a steady 8
miles per gallon, at a comfortable cruise speed of 90 mph on the
interstates, with the air conditioner set on "stun" instead of "arctic"
which would actually blow snow out of the vents in high humidity.
The trunk was the size of a 1/2 ton pickup.. and ... it had plenty of
headroom.


On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:15 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


That was it. I wasn’t thinking about that at the time. Either way, they
were related.

Dad bought the Monaco off the sales floor at the local Dodge dealer the
day after he quit General Motors. It was his “F-U” to GM, as he was not a
happy camper when he left.

-D


On Jul 25, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, at 4:06 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:


You sure the Monaco isn't a cheap Newport?
I thought Chrysler was above Dodge like Buick was above Chevrolet.

As I recall, Chrysler was top end/luxury, Dodge was mid-tier but also

included trucks and muscle cars, Plymouth was economy.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Big As A Whale

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I owned one of those, back in the day. It had the fuel efficient 440 cubic
inch engine with a massive 4 barrel carb... that resulted in a steady 8
miles per gallon, at a comfortable cruise speed of 90 mph on the
interstates, with the air conditioner set on "stun" instead of "arctic"
which would actually blow snow out of the vents in high humidity.
The trunk was the size of a 1/2 ton pickup.. and ... it had plenty of
headroom.


On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:15 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That was it. I wasn’t thinking about that at the time. Either way, they
> were related.
>
> Dad bought the Monaco off the sales floor at the local Dodge dealer the
> day after he quit General Motors. It was his “F-U” to GM, as he was not a
> happy camper when he left.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 25, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, at 4:06 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> You sure the Monaco isn't a cheap Newport?
> >> I thought Chrysler was above Dodge like Buick was above Chevrolet.
> >
> > As I recall, Chrysler was top end/luxury, Dodge was mid-tier but also
> included trucks and muscle cars, Plymouth was economy.
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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Good point, hadn’t thought about those. I would have spent more time 
disassembling the old compressor to find out than it took to just swap it out 
with a new one. I think it took us under an hour to R&R the compressor and 
receiver/dryer on his W210.

-D

On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Or a cracked or broken valve plate. It will leak internally and never build 
pressure. High side and low side will have zero, or very little pressure 
difference. Of course you don't know until you start troubleshooting.


Rick

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Sent: July 26, 2022 1:40 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or 
solenoid going bad.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:33 PM, dan 
penoff.com> via 
Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

I’ve worked with and am familiar with variable displacement pumps like this, I 
was just curious to see how they controlled the swash plate and how it 
interfaced with the pistons. Pretty slick.

-D

On Jul 26, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

We utilize that pump technology in the turbine control oil system at the old 
nuke plant.
Awesome video. If I were still trying to teach the little nubbins the concepts 
of the technology, I would likely used diagnoses Dan’s video.

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2022, at 7:03 AM, dan 
penoff.com> via 
Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of the 
variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on how it 
was controlled. Good to know.

-D

On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the variable 
displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is the same. 
Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has failed with a 
crack or something.

https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI

Rick

From: Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com>>
 on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
mailto:ka...@striplin.net>>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked any 
since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a more 
expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long run but you 
save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy you are not 
killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle environmental costs of 
the new part is much worse than the old type.  Progress!

-_FT

On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more complicated.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim 
Catheymailto:jim.cathey...@gmail.com>>
  wrote:

So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to replace.

Progress!

The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Or a cracked or broken valve plate. It will leak internally and never build 
pressure. High side and low side will have zero, or very little pressure 
difference. Of course you don't know until you start troubleshooting.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: July 26, 2022 1:40 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or 
solenoid going bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:33 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> I’ve worked with and am familiar with variable displacement pumps like this, 
> I was just curious to see how they controlled the swash plate and how it 
> interfaced with the pistons. Pretty slick.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> We utilize that pump technology in the turbine control oil system at the old 
>> nuke plant.
>> Awesome video. If I were still trying to teach the little nubbins the 
>> concepts of the technology, I would likely used diagnoses Dan’s video.
>>
>> AZBob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Jul 26, 2022, at 7:03 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of 
>>> the variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on 
>>> how it was controlled. Good to know.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
 On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

 Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the 
 variable displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is 
 the same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has 
 failed with a crack or something.

 https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI

 Rick
 
 From: Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com>> on 
 behalf of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 Cc: Kaleb Striplin mailto:ka...@striplin.net>>
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

 True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
 tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked 
 any since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a 
> more expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long 
> run but you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy 
> you are not killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle 
> environmental costs of the new part is much worse than the old type.  
> Progress!
>
> -_FT
>
>> On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more 
>> complicated.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim 
 Catheymailto:jim.cathey...@gmail.com>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
>>> failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
>>> with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to 
>>> replace.
>>>
>>> Progress!
>>>
>>> The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
>>> a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

So it appears. I’m guessing the plate either got stuck in the flat/neutral 
position or the solenoid won’t move it out of that position.

This is what affected the youngest son’s compressor in his facelift W210. Spun 
without issue, charge was good, simply didn’t compress.

-D

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or 
> solenoid going bad. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:33 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve worked with and am familiar with variable displacement pumps like 
>> this, I was just curious to see how they controlled the swash plate and how 
>> it interfaced with the pistons. Pretty slick.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We utilize that pump technology in the turbine control oil system at the 
>>> old nuke plant. 
>>> Awesome video. If I were still trying to teach the little nubbins the 
>>> concepts of the technology, I would likely used diagnoses Dan’s video.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 26, 2022, at 7:03 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of 
 the variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on 
 how it was controlled. Good to know.
 
 -D
 
> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the 
> variable displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is 
> the same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has 
> failed with a crack or something.
> 
> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb 
> Striplin via Mercedes 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC
> 
> True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
> tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked 
> any since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a 
>> more expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long 
>> run but you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are 
>> happy you are not killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle 
>> environmental costs of the new part is much worse than the old type.  
>> Progress!
>> 
>> -_FT
>> 
>>> On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more 
>>> complicated.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim Cathey  
> wrote:
 
 So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
 failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
 with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to 
 replace.
 
 Progress!
 
 The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
 a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.
 
 -- Jim
 
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So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or 
solenoid going bad. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:33 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve worked with and am familiar with variable displacement pumps like this, 
> I was just curious to see how they controlled the swash plate and how it 
> interfaced with the pistons. Pretty slick.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We utilize that pump technology in the turbine control oil system at the old 
>> nuke plant. 
>> Awesome video. If I were still trying to teach the little nubbins the 
>> concepts of the technology, I would likely used diagnoses Dan’s video.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 26, 2022, at 7:03 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of 
>>> the variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on 
>>> how it was controlled. Good to know.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the 
 variable displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is 
 the same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has 
 failed with a crack or something.
 
 https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI
 
 Rick
 
 From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
 via Mercedes 
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC
 
 True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
 tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked 
 any since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a 
> more expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long 
> run but you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy 
> you are not killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle 
> environmental costs of the new part is much worse than the old type.  
> Progress!
> 
> -_FT
> 
>> On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more 
>> complicated.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim Cathey  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
>>> failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
>>> with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to 
>>> replace.
>>> 
>>> Progress!
>>> 
>>> The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
>>> a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
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[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’ve worked with and am familiar with variable displacement pumps like this, I 
was just curious to see how they controlled the swash plate and how it 
interfaced with the pistons. Pretty slick.

-D

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 12:49 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We utilize that pump technology in the turbine control oil system at the old 
> nuke plant. 
> Awesome video. If I were still trying to teach the little nubbins the 
> concepts of the technology, I would likely used diagnoses Dan’s video.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 7:03 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of the 
>> variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on how it 
>> was controlled. Good to know.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the 
>>> variable displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is 
>>> the same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has 
>>> failed with a crack or something.
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
>>> via Mercedes 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC
>>> 
>>> True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
>>> tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked 
>>> any since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a 
 more expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long 
 run but you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy 
 you are not killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle 
 environmental costs of the new part is much worse than the old type.  
 Progress!
 
 -_FT
 
> On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more 
> complicated.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>> 
>> So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
>> failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
>> with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to 
>> replace.
>> 
>> Progress!
>> 
>> The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
>> a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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[MBZ] 92 Toyota 4Runner/ 85 OM617 - $7,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I think a snorkel air intake would be better.

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Re: [MBZ] hood stacked, custom patina paint, AMG big fatty Doinks wearing bridge stone low profiles. Cold air swap, increased fuel injection

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Sad

I think the answer to "why" is  STUPID

Randy


On 25/07/2022 7:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

One word: Why?

-D


On Jul 25, 2022, at 8:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

1985 Mercedes-Benz 300d rat rod Turbo Diesel

$7,000

This thing gets well over 40mpg. 225k and climbing but it’s a boss. Have 
original window sticker from original purchas new! Very well kept and a 
certified head turner and coal roaster.

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Re: [MBZ] STOP ME -- does NOT WORK 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl450,$2,500

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She just sold it so g-d must be looking out for me!

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> On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Go take a looksee and drag ‘er home!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> She says "Passenger front end air suspension needs to be inflated" which 
>> could be something very simple, or struts are blown, but in any case not a 
>> huge issue.  Has tow package.  She bought a new GL so has not driven this 
>> one.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
 On 7/26/22 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>>> OK Barnwell is about an hour away... it would be interesting to see what 
>>> the problem is
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1183827722186069
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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

We utilize that pump technology in the turbine control oil system at the old 
nuke plant. 
Awesome video. If I were still trying to teach the little nubbins the concepts 
of the technology, I would likely used diagnoses Dan’s video.

AZBob

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> On Jul 26, 2022, at 7:03 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of the 
> variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on how it 
> was controlled. Good to know.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the 
>> variable displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is the 
>> same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has failed 
>> with a crack or something.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
>> via Mercedes 
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC
>> 
>> True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
>> tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked any 
>> since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a more 
>>> expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long run but 
>>> you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy you are 
>>> not killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle environmental 
>>> costs of the new part is much worse than the old type.  Progress!
>>> 
>>> -_FT
>>> 
 On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more 
 complicated.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
> failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
> with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to 
> replace.
> 
> Progress!
> 
> The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
> a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] STOP ME -- does NOT WORK 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl450,$2,500

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well if it was a flip. but yeah...  Arnotts are like $750 the pair so 
that would be the way to go for a keeper


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On 7/26/22 12:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Why do you put cheap junk parts on nice cars?

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Been sitting for awhile.  Woman's hubs is sending a carfax he got. Front
struts are $350/pair for cheap chinee, not hard to replace.  H.
Might need some shrewd negotiation...

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On 7/26/22 10:14 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

Go take a looksee and drag ‘er home!

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:

She says "Passenger front end air suspension needs to be inflated" which could 
be something very simple, or struts are blown, but in any case not a huge issue.  Has tow 
package.  She bought a new GL so has not driven this one.

--FT


On 7/26/22 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
OK Barnwell is about an hour away... it would be interesting to see what the 
problem is

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1183827722186069


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Re: [MBZ] STOP ME -- does NOT WORK 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl450,$2,500

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Why do you put cheap junk parts on nice cars?

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> Been sitting for awhile.  Woman's hubs is sending a carfax he got. Front 
> struts are $350/pair for cheap chinee, not hard to replace.  H.  
> Might need some shrewd negotiation...
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/26/22 10:14 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>> Go take a looksee and drag ‘er home!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>
>>> She says "Passenger front end air suspension needs to be inflated" which 
>>> could be something very simple, or struts are blown, but in any case not a 
>>> huge issue.  Has tow package.  She bought a new GL so has not driven this 
>>> one.
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
 On 7/26/22 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
 OK Barnwell is about an hour away... it would be interesting to see what 
 the problem is

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1183827722186069

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Re: [MBZ] STOP ME -- does NOT WORK 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl450,$2,500

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Been sitting for awhile.  Woman's hubs is sending a carfax he got. Front 
struts are $350/pair for cheap chinee, not hard to replace.  H.  
Might need some shrewd negotiation...


--FT

On 7/26/22 10:14 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

Go take a looksee and drag ‘er home!

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

She says "Passenger front end air suspension needs to be inflated" which could 
be something very simple, or struts are blown, but in any case not a huge issue.  Has tow 
package.  She bought a new GL so has not driven this one.

--FT


On 7/26/22 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
OK Barnwell is about an hour away... it would be interesting to see what the 
problem is

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1183827722186069


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Re: [MBZ] Stupid home AC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

AC guys just left. They checked the capacitors, which were fine, checked the 
r410 which was fine, checked the contacts in the contractor that were fine. No 
issues found. Only thing they said was with the power flashed it might have 
tripped an overload when it tried to start back up. I turned it off completely 
when it happened then tried it a couple of hours later and still the fan kicked 
on but not the compressor. Kicked on 5 days later just fine. So it appears to 
be working fine at the moment. 

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> On Jul 25, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I’m not sure, I know it was running and proper temp was being maintained 
> then about an hour later I noticed it was getting warm in the house and the 
> compressor was not running. We shall see if it shuts off again. Btw even 
> though it’s running the defrost board is still flash the coil sensor error. I 
> suspect maybe it means nothing since it’s in AC mode. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 8:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Did it freeze up and finally thawed out after sitting and not running?
>> 
>> I lived in Newport News VA one summer in an apartment and the manager told 
>> us when we moved in not to set it below like 76 on hot days because it would 
>> freeze up.  It did even if not set that low when we got home from work and 
>> turned it on, and took a coupla hours to thaw out then which was a real pain 
>> because it was hot there
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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>>> You may recall the night before we left for Colorado AC quit working. 
>>> Outside condenser fan was running but not the compressor. Inside unit was 
>>> running. Also the defrost board was flashing code for coil sensor failure. 
>>> It had been like that for an hour or 2. I shut it off. Just walked in the 
>>> door and decided to see what it would do and the compressor fired right up. 
>>> I felt the line out of it and it’s getting cold. So I don’t know what the 
>>> deal was. Guy is supposed to be here tomorrow so I guess I will keep the 
>>> appointment and let them check it out. Despite it being 105 outside it’s 
>>> only 86 in the house which has sat closed up with no AC running for a week. 
>>>  Both the car and house seem to be having intermittent AC issues.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] STOP ME -- does NOT WORK 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl450,$2,500

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Go take a looksee and drag ‘er home!

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> On Jul 26, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> She says "Passenger front end air suspension needs to be inflated" which 
> could be something very simple, or struts are blown, but in any case not a 
> huge issue.  Has tow package.  She bought a new GL so has not driven this one.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/26/22 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>> OK Barnwell is about an hour away... it would be interesting to see what the 
>> problem is
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1183827722186069
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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

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That was great, thanks for linking to this! I understood the concept of the 
variable displacement compressor and swash plate, but wasn’t clear on how it 
was controlled. Good to know.

-D

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 3:27 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the variable 
> displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is the same. 
> Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has failed with a 
> crack or something.
> 
> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC
> 
> True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
> tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked any 
> since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a more 
>> expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long run but 
>> you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy you are 
>> not killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle environmental 
>> costs of the new part is much worse than the old type.  Progress!
>> 
>> -_FT
>> 
>>> On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more 
>>> complicated.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
 
 So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
 failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
 with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to replace.
 
 Progress!
 
 The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
 a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.
 
 -- Jim
 
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Re: [MBZ] STOP ME -- does NOT WORK 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl450,$2,500

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She says "Passenger front end air suspension needs to be inflated" which 
could be something very simple, or struts are blown, but in any case not 
a huge issue.  Has tow package.  She bought a new GL so has not driven 
this one.


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On 7/26/22 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
OK Barnwell is about an hour away... it would be interesting to see 
what the problem is


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Re: [MBZ] W116 Half-Shafts

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On 2022-07-25 21:10, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

All of the 107 114 115 116 and 123 were always the same as far as I
remember and possibly the 126. The 2 styles were either the kind with
the internal clip in the diff you had to remove (older cars) or the
later bolt on 126 style.


W123 and W116 shafts are the same length?
I have a diff and halfshafts out of a 240D automatic.
They probably don't have much wear, but the boots are about 40 years 
old, so they could conceivably split at any moment.


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Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes-Benz e-class Needs gas tank to drive home, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's up in Max's hood, I'm up to my eyeballs in Benzes right now or I 
would be looking at it for sure.  There's 2 or 3 at LKQ so pulling parts 
would not be hard, and a new fuel pump probably isn't that much


--FT

On 7/26/22 9:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

That’s a heck of a deal, even if you have to drop the tank and clean it and 
replace the fuel pump.

You could probably get $5k for that in running condition.

-D


On Jul 26, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

111kmi, looks pretty nice


I had a 30 year Mercedes tech look at it and he said it needs a gas tank and 
fuel pump.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/368762328735376

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes-Benz e-class Needs gas tank to drive home, $1, 500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That’s a heck of a deal, even if you have to drop the tank and clean it and 
replace the fuel pump.

You could probably get $5k for that in running condition.

-D

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 111kmi, looks pretty nice
> 
> 
> I had a 30 year Mercedes tech look at it and he said it needs a gas tank and 
> fuel pump.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/368762328735376
> 
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[MBZ] 1987 Mercedes-Benz e-class Needs gas tank to drive home, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

111kmi, looks pretty nice


I had a 30 year Mercedes tech look at it and he said it needs a gas tank 
and fuel pump.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/368762328735376

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[MBZ] STOP ME -- does NOT WORK 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl450,$2,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

OK Barnwell is about an hour away... it would be interesting to see what 
the problem is


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1183827722186069

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Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D - 155k miles - $10,000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Most likely a typo (extra zero).

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:23 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Crazy price. Working AC is a plus but with any rust that price is very
> unrealistic IMO.
>
>
> https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbia-1980-mercedes-benz-300d-10k-obo/7513324265.html
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Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Here's a video I found that gives a very good explanation of how the variable 
displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is the same. 
Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has failed with a 
crack or something.

https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI

Rick

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think 
tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked any 
since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a more 
> expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long run but 
> you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy you are not 
> killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle environmental costs of 
> the new part is much worse than the old type.  Progress!
>
> -_FT
>
>> On 7/25/22 7:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more 
>> complicated.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>>>
>>> So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most
>>> failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one
>>> with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to replace.
>>>
>>> Progress!
>>>
>>> The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed
>>> a new (rebuilt) compressor, with all the trimmings.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
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